CAT 259D3 grading mile long driveway with Harley Rake Illinois homestead
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2020
- Join us for our last skid steer demo testing of a CAT 259D3 using a harley rake, aka power rake, to regrade our near mile long gravel driveway on our Southern Illinois homestead farm. We have been comparing skid steers, aka CTL's or compact track loaders, to decide if it would be a good investment to add to our farms and country living adventures. I have made a selection on which brand and what unit we plan to purchase, as long as the finances fall in to place. We checked out, drove, tested and quoted lots of options between GEHL, BOBCAT AND CAT (CATERPILLAR) skid steers. Thanks for joining us, and if you enjoyed this video please hit the like button, subscribe and share this content to help our channel grow. Also stay tuned for all of our land management projects, Branson tractor projects, Bobcat excavator projects, food plots, habitat improvement projects, DIY rustic home decor projects, our Kentucky farmhouse rehab project, duck ponds, watering holes, building roads and trails, land management and property management projects. Kapper Outdoors, living the dream, one acre at a time.
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Really nice finish on the driveway great machine 👍👍
Marine proof. Love it. Army Airborne. I was a heavy equipment operator when a young buck but just got a JD 318 and I can lift everything but it doesn't mean I want to go hooking it all up. I saw this rake at a buddies and today ill be using the York rake.
What a great finish on your driveway, and in less than two hours! I spent two hours with my box blade on the driveway, and it's only 1/4 mile long. You are going to LOVE whatever you end up buying, and with all the attachments available for them........you can do just about anything but knit booties with it. :D
agreed, if we can swing it, it will likely replace a lot of the tractor duties..
Liked and Subscribed! Love the rake and skid steer usage.... Instant satisfaction..
Pretty slick
It looks like they have the power grader adjusted so it pulls gravel from along the shoulder and moves it back to the center of the road. That is great because it replaces the gravel from the tire tracks that gets squished to the shoulder when the drive is soft. It really did a great job to reshape the road with out needing a road grader to come in and bring the gravel road crown back and smooth the road surface along with the shaping. I like the way it worked.
yeah it does that, I didn't mess with the adjustments much, but it worked slick for sure :) Thanks.
Grenat video ! ASV 75 ground presser of 3.6 psi, is the best if you have wet area on your land, and finaly the best dealer support in your area.
As you probably know support is the key with those toy.
Good luck. And keep those video comming.
Thanks.
Love Harley rakes....best skid loader attachment made!
They sure do carry their own weight no doubt!
Wow 🤩
Nice video Kap that’s the first time I saw one of those being used
Thanks Ron. I've hired them out a number of times to do this and other things like lawns also. Great took no doubt.
Semper Fidelis Kapper!! Great videos!
Bruce.
Thanks man! Semper Fi! Hope to see you again! Have a good one
Good work
Thank you! Cheers!
Great job on the driveway Joe testing out the CAT and Harley Rake!
Thanks, have a good one. Just have to get the refi for final approval!
Thanks! Have a good one too!!
Love the Harley Rake and the way the ground looks once completed. Great video and camera view!
thank you, appreciate it
@@kapperoutdoorsI am addicted to these type of videos... very relaxing to watch the skid steer grading roads and then the dump truck comes with the gravel! Love it!
You did good Kapper. Makes me want rent one now.
These machines can really do some damage on projects, no doubt! Maybe you should get a few projects listed out and try to rent one? Thanks, good luck.
I'm looking forward to the comparison and to hearing which comes out on top and why.
Thanks, it was a very tough decision no doubt.
Harley rakes on tractors with the tilt are the best. Takes a little getting use to but you can grade about anything with them. We do a ton of lawns with them.
No doubt they are a really great implement to use! Thanks
Integrated SMART technology is what Cat calls it. Makes life easier.
It was good stuff for sure, but I ended up getting a Bobcat, thanks.
I’ve never seen one of those Harley Rakes used Kap. Sure what the doctor ordered for the driveway. Looked almost like you had someone drop spread it. Very nice. Hope the numbers worked out for you👍
yeah it was a nice fresh layer for sure! Getting close on the numbers, I think it will happen, but just waiting on final verbal approval on the land refi.
Kapper Outdoors 🤞for ya
If I had been told that the power rake (soil conditioner) attachment was originally designed for gravel driveways, I would’ve totally believed it. It is just perfect for that. Pair it with a vibratory roller and you have an unbeatable driveway combo.
That's what many excavators and landscapers use them for is gravel. If you get a quality one, you'll be fine on gravel. I'll be getting one of these with the Bobcat. Thanks.
you can test drive demo the new skid loaders all the different brands and attachments! by the time your done testing them all your work on the property will be finished for free! lol great idea! do all your projects using demo equipment lol in the end tell them you need to think about it. lol. but seriously we do need a Harley rake also it can do alot of jobs landscaping. great video!
lol I like that plan! Use the demo's! I did try :) You are right, things are changing so fast every year on all machines! Thanks
The good thing about a power rake it gets all the way down to the bottom of holes. Where as the box scraper just scrapes off the tops. And the holes return in short order
Yep, very true!! Thanks
You’re going for the CAT I bet!
Be careful betting! LOL
I owned a Cat wheeled skid steer a few years ago. It was great and Fabic was a good dealer. As with anything that expensive, dealer support is a big factor. If I were to buy another one I’d have to look at JCB. They’ve got a single sided lift arm with entrance from the side so you can get in and out no matter where your load is situated. If you work alone as used I used to that would be a great feature. There’s a dealer in Hamel Illinois that I’ve visited but know nothing about.
CHARLES LANGE JCB skid steers and compact track loaders are comfortable, easy to maintain, surprisingly powerful, and the safest skid steer on the market.
Yeah, just due to the distance of the closest dealers I did not look at them. But I think I have a good thing going with the Bobcat, they are close, and I've had great dealer support. Thanks.
Yep, I definitely know what you mean about bending, kneeling, lifting, and anything else that uses the back and knees. The Corps helped create a "permanent limp" which some days is more noticeable than others. Hey, I just take more Naproxen to counter my gimpy-limp days, ha. I think you're liking that CAT and the Gehl is a nice contender. Regardless, make sure you get a harley rake with whatever one you purchase. Full-video watch, Kap. Later.
Yes the power rake is an awesome implement. Great for leveling dirt and getting it ready for grass seed.
yeah no doubt. First time I ran one, but I've hired out many times for driveways and lawns! Pretty sweet machine, also if you know how to do it it pushes the bigger rocks all to one side.. Down the road if I rent one or get one I'll have to learn it better. Thanks.
yeah I just dread hooking up a pto implement on the tractors...
You need to angle the power rake to pull product from the side of the road to the middle to build or keep a crown.
I run a Vernig power rake with a hydraulic angle cylinder. Takes the work out of changing the angle.
I've run several Harley and Bobcat power rakes as well. The Bobcat fell apart in about one day. The Harleys are OK, but not built near as well as the Virnig. That's the way to go. Very capable and strong machine.
Bobcat and Cat make great skid steers for power raking, but I use primarily an ASV because of its power and its ability to go where Bobcat and Cat can't go. The ASV tracks are awesome.
Good info. The bobcat I ordered has wide track, so it ought to be able to come close to the asv for traction. I know asv is a beast, but I didn't want to take a chance with the nearest dealer being in another state and like 75 miles. Thanks
ART OF THE DEAL MY FRIEND---Be ready to WALK if its not a fantastic quote!! Although knowing how YOU deal---crunching the figures means its got to be just a little over COST. smh
It's all in the negotiations....
Bobcat has the bobdock system. You don't have to hook up hydraulic lines anymore if you don't want to it's automatic. Mine has that option, as soon as you connect the quick connect it also automatically connects your hydraulics.
Never heard of that, never seen it. I test drove a bobcat also. You still have to connect the hydraulic lines, but that is no big deal when you're not bending and crouching down into an awkward space.
cat and deere are the best skiddys i ever ran.
They are all pretty good, just have different strengths and weakness' thanks, hope you stick around for the ride.
Kapper Outdoors no doubt buddy. Def enjoy watching your videos while I’m laid off lol
You should VERY SERIOUSLY consider. JCB teleskid as well. In your place it would make those others obsolete.
I had planned on getting down there with my woods grader but the rear end on my tow vehicle is going out again! Maybe in the spring i can bring it down for you to play with?
Let me know when you get things ready. You can come down and do some collab vids. Thanks
Go easy on the sales guy lol
Sure you will get the one that's best for you. useable and pocket book determine what's best for you. All I can say is meow meow 😹
Well there's CAT, BobCAT and GehlCAT! LOL... But you are right, there was a whole lot to take into consideration, not just the machine.
Now that is nicer than the tractor, however you can still rent that for the 2 times a year that it’s needed.
Yes, I wouldn't buy one unless I got a deal on it, but I can rent this and many other skid steer implements if I pull the trigger on it.
Bobcat cat has the same hook up option no more pain. Lol
Yep, no doubt! But you never know which way this thing is going! lol
Cat! Then Bobcat. Good thing about Bobcat is there is hundreds of attachments u can buy used! Cat also but not as cheap or plentiful...
Agreed, thanks!
I VOTE THE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CAT!!
Which one? The CAT, the BobCAT, or the GehlCAT??? lmao
Cat all the way if you want a good construction skid you want the cat if you want farm equipment go with the gehl or the bobcat. My 2 cents.
I think they all would be good construction equip. When you think about it as far as jobs and tasks and such farm equipment probably does a lot more rough tasks, but just not the hours that full time construction would do. Thanks, we'll see what happens!
The Cat machine sure has a lot of awesome features, but what is the cost and reliability of all those electronics... Can't wait to see which one you pick!!
let me say it was not an easy decision!!!!
I always worry about the electrical issues and of course the emissions system that a machine has but I used to work for a big construction company that had a CAT 262C and in all the years I worked there I have never seen it down had over 3k hours on it when I left and it was far from cared for, or maintained. This company only ever changed the oil and filters every 1000 hours if that. Sad from my point of view because if because I am a preventative maintenance freak, I always learn where every hidden grease zerk is located and always change and check fluids oil and filters. Maybe it was a good pick of the bunch and they just got lucky but it’s better than the alternative of getting a lemon. In my opinion just about all machines are great when new but unless you dump them after reaching a certain amount of hours, longevity, ease of maintenance and parts availability are paramount. With CAT you can always get parts and service if you don’t turn wrenches yourself but be prepared for the CAT price tag.
Hope you can work out a deal soon on a skid steer
A trick : watch movies on Flixzone. I've been using them for watching a lot of movies during the lockdown.
@Makai Grady Definitely, I have been using flixzone for since december myself :)
@Makai Grady yup, been using flixzone for months myself =)
@Makai Grady Yup, been using Flixzone for since december myself :D
I love my Kubota. It’s definitely beefier than the cat.
And the John Deere 352 is even "beefier" than the 74 hp Kubota...
Kubota skids are junk.
Out of the five skid-steers I’ve had kubota is by far the best. Two of my friends have ditched their Cats and purchased Kubota’s.
Well which one has the best cup holder? ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Bobcat LOL
When looking at the bobcat did you have a chance to look at the new T76 or was it the T650/T770 models?
Actually, my first choice was the new t76 but it was just too expensive because it's brand new but that thing is a beast. I looked at the t595 and the t650.
Check out a Takeutchi TL6 or TL8
Dealer was too far, I did get a quote on one, but the specs and options were not the greatest. Thanks.
How does it do on a road with mid.size sand stones for a road base and a little bit of gravel on it
Not sure I'm going to do a little homework to find out what size stone is about the max.
Hooking up - dont the power units and attachments from different manufacturers share a universal hook-up? ... ie - physical connection the same, hose fittings the same?
No... At least not the electrical hookup, and most every attachment has hydraulic lines, which yes, those are 'skid steer' connectors usually universal, but there are proprietary pin connectors... 7 pin, 14 pin, and I think one other... So A CAT won't run a Bobcat attachment, and visa versa. Also when you buy an attachment it has to be matched to your machine for the electrical connection and gpm flow.
Kapper Outdoors bobcat only one running a different plug. Most brands of machines allow adjustment of flow to meet the manufacture required specs for their attachment. That in most cases I may add isn’t made by the manufacturer of the machine itself.
Do you think a power rake would work for busting up asphalt millings with a lot of chunks? Or am I just going to break the rake? The chunks are fairly soft and I was planning on doing it during the summer heat.
Rental around me is fairly expensive for a attachment. Over $200 a day.
I don't think it would work They make a specific one for that, looks almost just like a power rake. I'm afraid you would bend the drum, like I did going over some small stumps (Like 2 inch ish). Best of luck though thanks
Thanks for the info. I'll look into that.
@Team Blue LLC Yes it vibrated badly so had to be replaced.
If I had a choice between the three, hands down it would be the Cat. A friend of mine has the Bobcat ctl and he has had a lot of problems with it. Did you demo a John Deere? I have had my 333d for 10 years not one problem so far!
No, I did not try a Deere. There are lots of different stories like that though with all equipment, I think that just depends if you are the unlucky one that gets the 'trouble' machine, lol. It was a very tough decision to be sure.
My 333g rocks
Cat, Gehl, or Bobcat...... Schickster will be disappointed if it's Not a Kubota. When he comes and sees it, be prepared for it to be emblazoned with Kubota stickers. LOL.
LOL maybe I'll need to send some stickers over to Schickster to put on CJ's Kubota!!! LOL
Why cat don,t make a small motor grader??
Cat was overpriced for what I wanted I went with Takeuchi, very similar to gehl. Cat had a tight cab in comparison to cat and the cat 299 was 100k plus where the Tak tl12r2 was 78k out door
Bobcat ended up being the best deal and great service here. TAxes are th worst!!! lol
Marine proof ?? hey
I wonder, can you haul a static roller behind you with that Harley Rake,...that'd set in the surface, wouldn't it?
But you're adding a lot to the monthly payments here are you?
If it were my choice , I have a harder look at Gehl. ( smooth ride is important, and you're not getting into all day construction, are you? )
Gehl is a great machine no doubt. But very different in the hydraulics. No, I'm not getting into all day construction, no way, no how! LOL.
@@kapperoutdoors Any way you decide will be the best decision, after all it's you who has to be satisfied, and none of us subscribers,..
we'll be here to watch what you show us anyway!
IMO, there is only one machine you listed worth having. They don’t make ear plugs capable of making a bobcat sound decent! Gehl seems to be made to meet the minimum bid requirements at a good price so that municipalities buy them
I have to disagree, the Bobcat is pretty nice overall! Thanks.
Driveway looked not bad to begin with? Was there potholes or unevenness?
you are right, it was in decent shape but this was just a test run to see if I wanted a power rake or not.
What are you using for mounts to mount to the skid?
All skid steer implements have a skid steer quick attach, makes things easy.
I meant as far as the go pro is concerned. lol
@@TMartz247 lol yeah the question sounded wierd, but I didn't know if you knew this stuff or not! I use magnet mounts mostly! Thanks
@@TMartz247 and suction cup mounts
Unless the CAT sales guy also represents Bobcat, at 7:12 you let it slip that if the numbers are good you're getting a CAT.
You kept it secret for a whole 57 seconds (video time). ;-)
Well, you'll just have to wait and see what happened.
I'll be surprised if you didn't pick the CAT. ;-)
what way do you spin the drum to work this
I believe it is supposed to spin the opposite way that you are going. It is all automatic anyway, the flow is set right when you just turn it on. Thanks.
Not a fan of the new stickers. Or the joysticks....wider seat is nice.
Is this the smaller rake or the big one ?
It's been awhile so I don't recall. If I had to guess I would say the smaller one since it is the 259 which is a smaller skid steer.
@@kapperoutdoors I watched closer, you got the bigger one either the 184 or 121 it's called now.
Dude clean those tracks out
LOL sorry man!
Didn't I say this a year or two ago?
Yep, I bet you did! LOL
Marine proof lol 😂
You know it!
Probably none of my business Kap but why buy one? You know how many times you could rent one for the cost of it? I understand it has resale value but all those implements are nice until they’re broke. My brother in law had one and it was constantly needing repairs. There’s enough things to repair all the time on a farm, why throw in another one? Just my $.02
I'm considering it because I have a lot of dirt work that I want to do on our farm and the Kentucky farm and that thing will move 20 times faster than a tractor. I'd like to make some more flooded impoundments and maybe a very big pond. Which if I can do that on my own is worth about 30k right there. And they cost about 2,500 to rent for one week. Thanks.
That harley take is ment for grading and pulverizing dirt! Not stone! Should be using a back blade on a 3 or tractor for stone like the rest of the world
Millertime your clueless
They are made for gravel as well. Many excavators and landscapers use them for decades on gravel.
look at a Taek
I did get a quote but between the quote, the specs, and distance to nearest dealer I ruled them out, thank you.
I promise you want to stay away from equipment that uses proprietary attachments.
Well, sometimes there is no avoiding it. CAT uses CAT and Bobcat uses Bobcat. Gehl can be wired to use off brands and maybe adapted to these, but no likely, or they won't work properly so I've heard.
Nothing is proprietary except the plug! That is just old outdated information built off the bobcat business plan that married you to the brand after you bought several attachments.
As long as that harley is a rental. That is not what that tool is designed for at all. Yes it might work but that is a soil conditioner. I couldnt watch the whole video. I threw up a little in my mouth.
Well, I've seen it used many times for gravel driveways. One of my excavator friends who's been doing this for 40 plus years. Uses them on driveways. Hopefully the taste wasn't too bad when you started throwing up, LOL.
I always go in reverse when using a rake . To me going in revers does a lot better job than going forward
@@DEDBRD-di4yj Well, everybody's experiences are different. My excavator goes forward, and I also watched some videos from dirt ninja and he goes forward as well. Probably just a personal preference. Thanks.
Gravel will wear it more quickly than soil. That drum is expesive.
You can bring that by my house
Its already gone, but down the road when I rent one I can probably do that!