How the World Got Weird, Erik Davis
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- Erik Davis is an author, podcaster and award-winning journalist whose work explores the intersection of technology, counterculture and the esoteric.
His latest book, 'High Weirdness', explores the new counterculture of drugs, esoterica and visionary experience that emerged in the 1970's - spearheaded by three pioneering figures: Terence McKenna, Philip K Dick and Robert Anton Wilson.
He sat down with Rebel Wisdom's Alexander Beiner to discuss why the world is getting weirder, how to respond to it, and why the ideas of the 1970's counterculture are as relevant now as they were then.
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So glad Robert Anton Wilson is finally getting some love. He is by far the most underrated of the late 60s and 70s psychedelic philosophers. If you haven't read him or listened to one of his recorded lectures, I highly recommend him.
@Mike Knight NO....Do some research.
Agreed. I also like how Davis doesn't just focus on the Discordian aspect. So many RAW fans are more into absurdism, which is fun, but not what I feel like is the more skeptically rational side of RAW's approach to the world. Definitely buying this book.
I had seen and heard of The Illuminatus Trilogy since the mid-'90s, but it wasn't until 2009 that I delved into his material and was flabbergasted at how incredibly insightful, lucid, mindblowing, and funny it was. I downloaded the multi-disc RAW Explains Everything and then just absorbed it across a week as I rode my bike, went on walks etc. It was absolutely life-changing to me, because he integrated and assembled so many things I had already known, or was familiar with, into this grand mosaic, while still allowing for so many questions and openness.
The Cosmic Trigger series....love those books
@@POLARIStheTRUE That's how I discovered Philip K Dick, so I'm eternally grateful to RAW for turning me onto who is now a favorite author. Vol. 3 was a great book one in it's own right. Haven't read the first two.
People seem to be infinitely malleable if you can control their reality long enough. Tech gives a perfect delivery method for bending reality but only if competing realities can be eliminated. That’s going on now. If you can ignore the tech, the people around you seem strangely ‘programmed ‘ these days. Repeating similar points and refusing contrary data all wrapped up in strong emotions.
Made In England, very good point. Suddenly the large corporate and government push for censorship online in the past few years all makes sense.
Expand your thought on reality and emotions.
@Made in England My God...You just summarized the way I've been feeling and not been able to put into words, but you nailed it on the head w/ "Repeating similar points and refusing contrary data all wrapped up in strong emotions." That is totally what is going on...and it's making me feel insane, but deep down I know that I'm just aware and it's getting too be a lot to handle. Like I cannot communicate in a positive manner w/ 95% of people I interact with. This has never been the case. I've went almost 2 years now w/ out a cell phone and I have noticed outrageous changes in the core principle of Human. Much love. Keep going.
They're called "normies" and yes I use it unironically because there's literally no other way to describe them except maybe "sheep."
well said!
The family has been destroyed. Thus we have become weak. The schools raise your kids. The iPhone controlles your kids thoughts. Your budget controlles you. Separated so much, most people couldnt work together to make a cake! We are strong in numbers people! I know everybody loves the lonely individualist view but WTF! Collaborative thought, kindness, and actual collaboration is what it takes to stop evil!
Thank you.
Beautiful
@b1inbeing quite annoying to see that videos on McKenna attract fascists
it is probably good that family has been destroyed, traditional family never really worked. we must make up new ways to assemble our relationships. I'd say traditional family was destroying collaborative thought etc.
@b1inbeing Listen to the actual audio...the "THEY" he's is referring to is not the FBI or CIA, it's the Mushroom Entities he thought he was communicating with. Did you read the chapters on McKenna in Davis's book? Well worth the read; Lots of insight.
'if you never contradict yourself, your position is not complex enough' - TM
Samuel Batt i like that who is TM.
@@gregoryswift9573 Terence Mckenna
Yes! And useing the contradiction we can take adversity to diversity and win. Expand the concept and law of contradiction contradicted by its own law
"Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong." Ayn Rand
@Jeremy Edwards its spelt unsane
I miss having true friendships and a family of affinity.
my exact thougths these days
There was a book about Bob Dylan etc. called "Old Weird America." I think that referred to some of the fringe or overlooked or suppressed parts of American history. One of those fringe figures in my mind would be writer William Burroughs and the way he satirized American vices like racism, consumerism, sexism, morals and religion. And, of course, many of the hippies, Timothy Leary etc.
Great Interview. A pity it wasn't longer. Erik is an amazing author and he is on point talking about these three figures and linking them. Can't wait to get his new book
Finally I feel I've found a community "Rebel Wisdom" that makes accurate and logical sense of what I've been experiencing in our environment...both naturally and technologically!! Ahhhh, relief
Our time is weird, stupid and shallow.
its not, with the right company and drugs
Take your soma.
Nah.
@@SoundSelector without that u r nothing. Probably ald dead.
Meaningless. I always ask wtf am I still doing here as I ald knew what is going to happen at the end of the day.
This is a really great talk with a rare but valuable perspective. I am in Chapel Perilous at the moment and am trying to get out the other side with my reason intact.
@Elias Anatolios Love it. Thank you.
theotormon been in and out of that place the past 3 years. I tried thinking my way out of it, but action has turned out to be the best thing for me. Run, sun, and fun man. Your reason isn’t corruptible, it is always within you. Gotta be careful not to angle it in on ourselves and the wispy movie reels we have in our heads. Out of the mind, into the body. You will emerge cleaner than you can imagine. Best of luck brother.
Grow some vegetables. Literally get into the earth.
@@johnnyoverpour - I agree. "Run, sun, and fun man." We need to ground ourselves in concrete reality. And most of all immerse ourselves in the natural world. Turn off the tech and get outside and, at night, leave the tech out of the bedroom. When the sun goes down, turn off the artificial lights from all sources, including screens.
Crazy to hear stuff that I've always thought about but didn't know how to word it, where have you guys been the whole time?! Loving it
This guy is great, so glad I found your channel as well! Cannot wait to read High Weirdness! I had to buy off a bit of a sketchy site, hopefully it'll come one day.
First time watching one of your videos and I instantly subscribed! Thanks for the great information and looking forward to more perspectives!
It all boils down to a deepening societal rejection of logos in favor of solipsistic hedonism
Exactly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I think.................
SIN.
Sprinkled generously with a social media that breeds voyeuristic narcissism and vacuous materialism
this is way too much focus on the self..not integral thinking...then again rationalism (logos) isn't the answer either..by itself anyway..at least he talks about turning without..need a balance of ethos pathos and logos
@@deanruble2864Don't take it the wrong way but I'm having a difficult time deciphering any logos out of your word salad of a reply. All I got from it is that 1)English doesn't seem to be your first language(God help you if it is), and 2)it seemed you just hocked out a bunch of nonsensical pseudointellectual platitudes you once heard in a Jordan Peterson video in which case you are worse off than somebody who has no concept yet of logos, pathos, and ethos.
such a great video, havn't had somebody sum up my life and perceptions so concisely. Love love love love love
17:13 - 'It's very important for all of us to practice the ability to be in profound ambiguity with a sense of even urgency to resolve it and not resolve it'. That is some radically profound and thought-provoking shit right there...
Talk about RAW, gain a subscription. I'm glad to hear someone else describe Wilson as an individualist Libertarian. I think its apt, as surely he'd scoff at putting too much trust into large organizations.
I enjoyed the small aside when he noted that Wilson had an antipathy to Any Rand. Any Rand wrote economic fiction, almost a romance for economists of a deleterious kind.
RAW is both a libertarian and an anarchist, but I know he hated Randian libertarians, (for that matter, so did Ayn Rand, she only liked the people who joined her little Objectivist clique, sometimes not even then) but Wilson also would have hated the bomb throwing types of anarchists. He opposed political violence because he knew that violence only begets more violence, a fact that some seem to have forgotten.
Great video, please normalize or bump up the audio levels, can’t hear anything if a car drives by outside or my fridge even turns on...
Problem in this case is the mic is pointing into his jacket, absorbing the midrange (voice) and picking up mostly low tones. This can be fixed with an equalizer. Or, you know, by placing the mic properly.
"placing the mic properly"... you want it about a fist from your face
headphones are good in those situations
@@stoneskull Yeah I'm wearing headphones and I had to turn it down. They're nothing special either just avg.
Last Cosmic Trigger was one of those landmark books early in my book reading history. Very grateful also to RAW for introducing me to PKD who is now one of my favorite authors.
The way that guy listens to conversions "HMMMMM" lol. All I hear is him going "HMMMMM". Lol great interview :)
Wow this guy is amazing. This is one I'm watching again
So excited to watch this. Can’t believe y’all got Erik. He is the man
Thank you for this wonderful conversation
This was great! Part 2 please!
Robert Anton Wilson! Haha, 13-year-old me reading those books for entertainment would somehow inevitably wind up here of course!
Most people 'out there' do not even know the WWW is not owned by Google, that publishing is now available to them, consider what it used to cost with legacy publishing to have any kind of identity which was able to be promoted, it took millions and political bowing down before the owners of media-now we can publish anything, we can automate processes, we can sell anything.
This was a great interview. I kind of accidentally ended up watching all of it.
I've always seen destabilization as part of the risk of doing psychedelics for some people, and strangely it's kind of analogous to the idea of post-modernism, at least how I understand it. It's this sense of 'where is the bottom?' and not quite having anything to stand on in order to make sense of the world and existence. For certain personalities, perhaps those that are a bit too concerned with always having control, this is a dangerous scenario which I could see leading to psychosis. Yet, on the other hand, it's this very same idea that a lot of the mystical traditions are based on, and Buddhism to a large degree. It's this idea that yes, there is no self, everything is in flux at all times and we're just woven into the fabric of everything and the only way this can ever be realized is by completely letting go. I'm reminded of the Joseph Campbell quote, 'The psychotic drowns in the same waters that the mystic swims in with delight.'
wow omfg michael and timothy....
thanks for your summaries
really brought me some understanding
your comments really helped
looking for the bottom ?
its turtles man
its turtles all the way down
hargh
hey michael ... one more
lily tomlin quote
reality is for people
who cant handle drugs
"where is the bottom"
makes me think of quantum physics
and the electric universe
...micro and macro
seekers are searching for the bottom
some kind of ultimate absolute meaning
jus chop wood and carry water
its turtles all the way
yeah, i guess recommending psychedelics to everyone is kinda reckless, uptight people or possible previously traumatized people may have a hard time with it. its medicine but not everyone requires the same medicine
Very interesting. Thank you both.
Yes, Erik Davis! Love this guy's ideas.
A perfect of summation of just how far we've come.
As a 20-something in the roaring 1990s, I remember the term 'cyberworld' and the idea of what the then-new Web would look like in the future. We had no idea just how integrated into our lives it would become. It isn't this thing you go to every once in a while. It IS our everyday now. So odd!
And we were looking forward to the integration of psychedelics into the everyday Joe and Jane. Well...it's happening. Oh yes, the days of 'legalize it' and High Times and hoping for the use of these entheogens in therapeutic sessions.
Well...it's finally happening. And I for one had no idea what it would look like. We still don't. But some of it (cannabis legalization) is happening faster than we thought.
But the commercialization of psychedelics, particularly Ayahuasca, was something I could not fortell. Disappointing, but it's reality.
All in all...we've come a long way, baby. Here's to the next 25 years being even more amazing. Great interview! 😎
good point ... volume doesnt mean truth
dude...
what long strange trip its been
ya
@@junkjunk2493 exactly
It's all been so dreary and utterly empty of anything that actually matters or warms the soul
I think we are actually experiencing the quantumness of life now, with several distinct realities going on. Group A sees things from this perspective and has research and data to back it up but group B can’t see it no matter what. And vice versa.
Great video, thanks 👍
Beautiful. Came to me at just the right time. Synchro Fukka nicity. A wonderful thing. Thank you.
Incredible speaker, thinker, and writer!! ❤ I strongly recommend everyone go get his book High Weirdness (2019).
Hasn’t anyone else ditched their phone? Starting to feel like the only person in the world without a phone.
What the heck r u using now?
No phone, no social media, no TV and no main stream media, peaceful
My daughter “forced” a cell phone on me a few months ago. She hardly ever calls me on it but she wanted me 5o have it just in case. I barely use it and am faithful to my landline...so I am kind of still a non-cell phone person...lol!
I've been eliminating a lot of tech and media. But I haven't yet gotten rid of my phone. Then again, the phone was never a vice for me. I don't like carrying any tech on me. A phone is purely utilitarian. I use it to call people and receive calls. That is it.
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RAW, Mckenna, PKD--another great video. You've earned my sub.
those guys are soo important.. throw in some hakim there too. and runesoup
So when we experience postmodernity as this chaos, should we not realise there has to be something better on the other side - the Second Tier way of Spiral Dynamics, of which Ken Wilber and others speak?
this was a truly amazing vid! xx
i’m so going to buy his book!
okay...um....not sure if it was you....but whoever is going "mmm" every 5 seconds REALLY needs to be fixed. Thanks.
haha, i didn't notice this at all until i saw comments mentioning it
Thank you for saying what we were all thinking.
I always find the conversations you guys have on this channel very interesting and valuabel, but here's a somewhat critical thought that keeps coming up for me as I'm watching: You guys seem very .... in love with this "the new weirdness" way of trying to understand things. I.e. "we need new categories, new words and theories to understand what is going on!"
But as you're talking psychedelics, in my philosophy-trained brain I can actually hear Spinoza talking, and Aristotle, and Charles Sanders Peirce!
Now, I'm not saying that the people you're talking to don't potentially have a lot to contribute, and there surely is an enormous number of different ways of approaching the same truths, but for me it's not so much about entering uncharted territories of the next newest unprecedented thing THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING! It's actually more about just going back and correcting our past misconceptions to eliminate the false dichotomies that have led us into our present dead ends! (Like the mixed economy, the fiat currency, the state-ism, the political correctness, etc.)
Still, much love and appreciation for what you're doing here!
seconded
Check out John Vervaeke's 'Awakening from the meaning crisis'. I think he does a good job of zooming out to a place where philosophy and 'awakening' are seen to be complementary. Philosophy describes a world outside of our everyday intuitions. 'Awakening' is the experience of a world outside of our everyday intuitions. They can mutually reinforce imo. I don't think that contradicts what you said. I just thought you might enjoy the series.
Cool, definitely checking it out! Thanks for the tip!@@Bradtheartguy
Updating our maps and tools does not equal _"entering uncharted territories of the next newest unprecedented thing."_ Aristotle has his place for sure, but reading the philosophers of Ancient Greece can only get you so far when trying to tackle the rapidly changing landscapes of the 21st century.
@@epictetus9221 You are repeating precisely the same oversight that I was arguing is happening in some of these discussions on here: Most of the problems we are facing today are based on our collectively not drawing the right conclusions from the age-old debates. But IMO the key to that lies in going back and clearing up our original misconceptions to fix the foundations of our understanding of the problems. I think it's a mistake to assume that the problems we have now, for the most part, are unprecedented. Instead, as far as i can see, they have mostly emerged from our past mistakes and unchecked assumptions. If you put the label of "capitalism" on todays economies and therefore ascribe all of the problems we have to "capitalism" and conclude therefore that we need to get rid of capitalism then a new theory won't fix the problem! You need to go back and fix your mistaken premises!
In a way, the internet and the real world has become like the merged reality in a PKD book, strange and weird times.
The simulacrum is never what hides the truth - it is truth that hides the fact that there is none. The simulacrum is true. -Ecclesiastes
Loved the discussion about the "Chapel perilous", referring to a psychological state where an individual is uncertain whether some course of events was effected by a supernatural force, or was a product of their own imagination, coined by Robert Anton Wilson; being in this state leads the subject to become either paranoid or an agnostic. Ultimately we want more people to hold an "ambiguity" and remain agnostic but at the same time not everyone can or has the desire to do so, which led this comment toward the end, which highlights the danger of paranoia, especially the type of paranoia exhibited by large groups of people: "these cultural systems are being weaponised and they're resonating with powerful emotions that answer in much more simple terms, the existential problems", (that are also identified by those holding that ambiguity but remaining agnostic)
During decades of crippling depression, I was lost in Chapel Perilous. I occasionally flirted with paranoia, but RAW inoculated me early on. I ended up with a curious, open-minded radical skepticism; or, if you prefer, 'agnosticism'. Having lost my grip on conventional reality tunnels, I never found satisfying any of the alternative reality tunnels on offer. So, I've learned to hold myself in a state of ambiguity tolerance and negative capability. Now I've regained my health, physical and mental, with my depression having entirely disappeared.
can't wait to read the book
Great conversation
One of my favorite interviews from this channel. Love that this group of thinkers is getting some serious coverage
2019: "How the World Got Weird"
2020: Hold my beer...
During decades of crippling depression, I was lost in Chapel Perilous, or what sometimes felt like Chapel Paralysis. I did occasionally flirt with the paranoid view of reality (Art Bell, John Keel, Jacques Vallee, etc). But RAW inoculated me early on. PKD and TM helped as well, among others like WSB.
I ended up with a curious, open-minded radical skepticism; or, if you prefer, 'agnosticism'. Having lost my grip on conventional reality tunnels, I never found satisfying any of the alternative reality tunnels on offer. So, I've learned to hold myself in a state of ambiguity tolerance and negative capability, an extremely tough thing to learn.
Now I've regained my health, physical and mental, with my depression having entirely disappeared. But it was a long, slow process getting here. And that process involved a lot of experimentation, to say the least, not to mention repeated struggle and failure. It was a learning process.
Right on, be comfortable with not knowing! Let’s drill down into how that is done. I find this is the antidote but how to hold that space of unknowing?
Something about listening to pointless drivel delivered in a monotone drawl that is so soothing to listen to. Drivel might be a term we need to agree upon.....😘 Keep up the good work.
Excellent!
Um
As a mother of 4 this new world is exactly what the likes of you were looking for
Now we moms must manage it.
Im ambivalent because it was inevitable that man would outrun the old religions
And now we must have the courage to navigate the possibilities.
But what i see from my humble perspective is that this social media chasm has a bottom and there is nothing there. The young will look up from the pit and see the concrete world as the answer. Concrete relationships will become the goal and technology will take its proper place in the little chair when man regains his analog throne.
That pit you allude to is Hell. Ne Timeas.
Well said. As qone of the so called youth, I had this revelation in Middle School and many of the people around me have gone through the same thing. You are 100% correct, I am into tech and I know exactly what we should be changing. We shouldnt aim for most time spent online as a metric, instead shortest time spent online so you can go do things outside, thats whats good social media is. It connects with people quivkly enough so you can go do things outside.
Every regime, has it end.
Don't worry Ms
Even if it will be dark totalitarian regime, it will end.
We are too much to be subjected
When slave know what he is, just slave he allso learns that he is someone who was one with soul that is above flesh and he is ready to give up his earthly life for freedom. But when slave believe that he is free he will never be ready to free him self becous he can not accept that he is slave. And this is the best way to make slavery to work. And it's working and it will continue to work. Becouse we are slaves to the system and system is made by us. We created this system together with them who own us. They are smart and they own freedom to do whatever they want.
That is matrix we live in it have nothing to do with technology. Technology are only toys given to human to play with. Not to work on it and to create new technology. Inginiring is only for chosen ones. And more good slaves we become, more teh. Toys we will get. Tesla said that he didn't invented nothing that didn't already exist. After he said that they destroid him.
Soooo good!
Gotta love Erik Davis!
This guy nailed it. 15:21
Awesome interview! My only gripe is that the active listening by the host is somewhat distracting - Too many 'hmmm's and 'mmhmm's
LifeLikeWeeds exactly what I thought
gotta be careful when muting mics though
Drop a little bit of LSD and see through the BS. Love Everyone.
Excellent
Please please read Vervaeke’s chapter in The Oxford Handbook titled “Reformulating the Mindfulness Construct”
It goes directly in the direction of de-McSpiritualizing mindfulness.
100% required reading for people concerned about how mindfulness has been imported to the west.
It gives a rigorous empirical and theoretical grounding for not only the self regulatory aspects but also the self transcendent aspects of meditation and contemplation.
We don’t need to waste energy worrying about McSpirituality, the scientifically tractable language is already out there.
I wonder if Davis has read Pinker's "The Better Angels of our Nature", since he is so adamant that there is no such thing as progress.
The key is to have a deverse media apitiate
Hey man, like that's just your opinion man.
Shut up Donnie!
I just hate the god damn eagles man..
What do we build our world from? Everything else!
But in what proportions do we take things from the world? We do get lost in the fabric of our own very particular reality in making that judgment. People dislike feeling they don't know how the world works, so they make a definitive answer.
The capitalist experience does narrow the world into customers. It is a hollowing out of something important, and yet I cannot escape that there is a sense in that value has to be commodified to some extent.
I do wonder if we could make a global monopoly where the target is to break even everywhere. They would need to demonstrate this by showing their complete operating model as clearly as possible and to publicly display their finances to a quite granular level. The main issue is in the hiddenness in which capitalism operates, and I wonder how it would adapt to such a challenge. There will be more individual jealousy as people cannot comprehend their plight against others. It will also initially shock people, in that some current truths are hidden from curiosity, But it will even out fairness more in the long run, as there will be a cyclical feedback loop than the narrowing one we have now.
check Michael Hudson
ua-cam.com/video/paUgY6SGlgY/v-deo.html
pulls the curtain back as much as psychedelics
I've been slowly disconnecting from tech-mediated reality and and so connecting to actual reality. I stopped following news years ago. And I've been eliminating social media over time. Most recently, I stopped all my streaming services. And I've taken all technology out of my bedroom.
On the other end, I've been focusing on healthy practices. I wake and sleep according to the sun. I get as much full sunlight exposure as I can, particularly sunrise and sunset. Also, I do grounding / earthing, exercise outside, and get out into nature or at least green spaces.
On a more basic level, I eat a diet that is nutrient-dense, local, organic, whole foods, and seasonal; specifically in terms of the diet humans evolved to eat (low-carb, high-fat, animal-based, nose-to-tail). And I've given increasing emphasis to water quality (spring source, deuterium-depleted, structured).
Disconnecting from one thing can't be done without connecting to something else. RAW made a similar point in that we can't jump out of one reality tunnel without jumping into another. Also, going by Johann Hari, addiction is lack of genuine relating, which means ending addiction necessitates regaining relationship.
‘Lord of a thousand worlds am I
and have reigned since Time began.
All Night and Day ,in cyclic sway,
Shall pass while their deeds I scan.
Yet Time shall cease, ere I find release,
For I am the Soul of Man.
‘Song of the Soul’ 🕉🙏
Search- ‘From Sweeper to Saint’
I'm detecting a pattern in Rebel Wisdom videos. Perhaps it could be expressed like this: "Let's gather seekers who have stopped before reaching the goal, and let's have them all make verbose guesses about the nature of the goal. And let's call that 'wisdom' or 'collective sense-making." ;-)
That need a buddist abbot like the Australian monk who is English and lived in Thailand for years
At about 4:29 who is the peeper in the window? Over the left shoulder? Mmmhmmm
Watched twice.
Hail Eris!
I like this guy, he gets it
Ppl's characters are more authentic online. I believe the more anonymous a person perceives themselves in a space, the more their true self is expressed. IF, of course, they're hiding who they are from ppl. Obv it you are your authentic self all the time, good or bad, then you'll be the same everywhere
when you like the video before it starts because the cover art is cool
How thoughtful.
Rein in your ego and be responsible you probably don't know everything
ok deer
Hello June 28th 2019. You have about eight months until COVID-19 starts up. Wait till you get a load of September 2021!
Substances need be respected and not promoted. These altering compounds need be remembered who was the resondsible ancestors and shamans who were dedicated to it. Just I caution people take precaution.
Be skeptical and rational
This entire interview follows the plotline of "Serial Experiments Lain" to a T.
Lol dude
So, exactly how did the world get weird again? I didn't get it.
www.bitchute.com/video/fiG11Z7JBbDC/ this how use your brain to grasp it
Il cammino della fede e' su' di una strada senza uscita
Is that intercourse noise in the background? Could go without it.
Erik may like my Agnostic Gnosticism:P
Level 7 spiral dynamics is what happens after green level 6.Perspectival knowing - vision logic based on multiple perspectives, it is a developmental stage to lose consensus reality. Level 8 has the connected unity layers - yes many unities, that solves this. The parallel memetic and technological breakthroughs that show us real entanglement is the solution to this groundless culture.
Social Media is a level 6 technology and so is blockchain. L7 technologies are VR and AR most important are the AI dashboards that show us the consumer supply chain data that makes visible the consumer economy and its global integrated impact. WE ARE ALL EATING MICROPLASIC.
Shows just what happens when you keep increasing the dosage....folks do have problems with dosage
Great interview. Subscribed. Thank you!
Prometheus Rising by RAW is really worth a read.
The transit of the past 7 years, Uranus in Aires, is a perfect meta-symbol of the new “hyper-relative” culture, the digital bubble, or solipsistic nursery that we have created. Everyone cought in their own social media loop. Uranus is always technological revolution and Aires, or course is “The Self”. Now we have shifted to Taurus and it will get even more “interesting”. A shift int getting more real results, the impact or overturning of the economy by AI, the death of retail via Amazon etc. Bit coin, and perhaps the end of the dollar as the world’s leading currency. Revolution in agriculture, and environmental issues. Taurus is the earth and always economics/banks. And also fixed, traditional rigid religious or political dogma. Fasten your seatbelts...
Holy shit this guy gets it
I wonder how long it will take for these people to learn that psychedelics lead to confusion, psychosis and mental illness, lot's of people learnt this lesson years ago, from the 60's onward,myself included in the 90's ,some, a few of my friends included, still have mental health problems from 90's drug consumption and some of them are dead from suicide, this guy talks about Robert Anton Wilson and how he had a breakdown from using psychedelics but doesn't see that as a warning. The occult is another red herring I believe. The real thing comes from real, mystical spirituality, Buddhism, meditation, non duality, being drug free, being a decent kind generous person etc. I was into all this psychedelic shit when I was in my late teens/early twenties and quickly left it behind as a dead end. Meher Baba was the only eastern mystic from the 60's to speak out against psychedelics saying they were harmful physically, mentally and spiritually and are an illusion within an illusion.
hmm, its weird i both agree and disagree with your comment. i think u may b throwing the baby out with the bath water. perhaps a more nuanced view might be 'psychedelics should not be taken casually, should b used intentionally, should not be seen as some 'spiritual path' or magic pill, and should be used in the context of knowing that they do not offer some 'true' vision of reality, but rather bring us into confrontation with our distortion of it.' alan watts' 'once you've got the message, hang up the phone' i think is probs a good way of looking at it, as there are indeed many for whom psychedelics offer what we might call a 'useful wound', and in some cases can allow a person to remove the bandages and cleanse a wound that has been left to rot. i think a lot of the damage comes from thinking in the sense of leary that it's '$10 enlightenment' or some such bullcrap, as well as the overly casual/hedonistic/de-ritualized context in which they're used. i agree that they offer no true path forward and find myself quite intensely frustrated with the newage's perspective on them. i think neither should it be seen that a person that has not used them and is seeking spiritual development is somehow at a disadvantage to those that have, and most, if not all, should try known religious practices before attempting to use psychedelics as a spiritual tool. likewise i agree that any spiritual path that does not emphasize sobriety is entirely missing the point.
@@blooobish Hi ehn.b, I concede that there might be some positive use for psychedleics in very small doses in a medical psychotherapy type situation and I believe it has helped some alcoholics etc. but I generally think it is playing with fire, especially in full on "trips" I know one person who did one dose of magic mushrooms and was never the same again, he was sectioned and it took years for him to get close to normality again, it wrecked his life and he had no emotional problems or bad life history when he did them.
@Sam Ov The Wirral you might have a point there, and that's true of me, but the drugs just made it worse, and I know a few well adjusted people from good homes with no issues who became mentally ill after taking psychedelics. Corny as it sounds it was getting into God and spirituality, buddhism, Hinduism etc that sorted me out not the drugs.
exactly, and both comments and your replies... we are all different, and we all need different 'medicine' for some, taking anything is just contraindicated, and for others, psychedelics are a path... but, we are not spiritually intelligent enough, nor psychologically, mentally emotionally to navigate these spaces we enter into, and I work with people to unravel from the spiritual infections they acquire when they open up to realms they have no understanding of... this actually also applies to sex... everything is sacred, especially us, we are so sensitive and our potential is as yet untapped, messing with it without first awakening to a sense of self, embodiment and energy practices that ground us, protect us and align us to receiving what we need... then we can journey with intent - we become magicians, able to navigate realms and remain focused on the task, it's not just to escape, but to create, heal, resolve... that's how we honor the sacredness of life, ours and the substances we consume
@@blooobish That was well said, considered and accurate.
Being an Occultist has nothing to do with being on dope. You either inherently have to the capacity to see or you don't.
As an occultist who incorporates entheogens in my practice, I disagree. If I had never had certain psychedelic experiences then I never would have believed that occultism had anything worthwhile to offer me. Learning various occult techniques is a like learning any other skill, you have to study and work at it, and some people will never be able to do it, but that doesn't mean those who are good at it are just naturally predestined to be magical. If you look, you shall find, but only if you have the eyes to see. Most are ignorant of the magick around them.
41:08
Tbh I view tripped out new-agers the same as flat earthers
Not even defending either side, but to say you view them the same given the extremely different levels of popularity, is very npc. Very few people are flat earthers, one is a physical believe in the world, the other is mental and philosophical.
Ok, you're still wrong.
@@xjmg007 - I was raised in New Age religion. Though not religious these days, it would be straight up bizarre to equate new agers to flat earthers. The latter are simply obscure, reactionary denialists who hold a view that has no relevance even to their own personal lives.
The only this that has changed is that we now have no space. Constantly doing.
I'm very familiar with Chapel Perilous. Not sure I need to come out. I think I'll make a bed in the loft above the pipe organ and stay a while.
I wish voice was just a bit louder
re 8:40 you speak of a multitude of realities and then make statements about different points-of-view as equating different realities....there is only one reality... 'the truth'..'that which is'...but there are an infinite number of possible points from which to view the truth ...context...I believe that what has actually happened is that individual human egos have gotten way out of whack and have confused their P.O.V with reality
Riki Mitchell ❤️
Who is doing that MMM/HMMM? Lol
Shits killing me haha mmmmm
It’s soooooooo annoying
Dude there has to be something more to that.
My gram would do that Constantly. She was smart and not going crazy but she would do it
What a nice talk. but damn, you need some nice subtle audio processing on this one. the sound is just 'off' (more techy explanation possible)
9.30. I believe I am rational to dispute anthropogenic climate change and you believe you are rational to believe it. What has changed here in the disagreement of views? Nothing surely. The only difference is the opportunity to the information, in the pre internet days, the information wasn't available, everything in the library was out of date, if it existed at all. Truth should win out, even in the mud/blood bath of social media. No?
I don't think the problem is best described as "commodification". It seems to be a consequence of mainstream adoption. While that might be facilitated by capitalism (in pursuit of profits) it could also be achieved via top down authoritarian control (Soviet Union style).
The missing element is the intricate social detail that comes from organic creation of a community. Also from acceptance that members of that community are distinct individuals capable of more or less engagement with the ideas.