Thank you, Theo! Obviously, all levels of pilots can learn something from you and this video has been a demonstration of that. You explained a tricky maneuver with great detail while keeping it simple enought for everybody to understand. I love how you are leveling up our sport and keeping to give back to the community, thank you!
Cool, merci. Two time stalls decreases the twist risk significantly as the wing does not deflate and keeps it's shape. I do appreciate you demonstrating the what can go wrong scenarios.
This is great - thanks! I've been working on deep stall which seems also the nicest way to enter backfly. But as soon as I have some height to practice stalls again, I'm going to try this aggravating the pitch to find a nice exit window. Seems a great way to help avoid cravats on the exit, which often seems to happen if I exit too quickly from backfly without the wing being in front. Thanks!
Thanks for another great video. I think anyone who is watching a stall tutorial for the first time should watch the first video before this one. This one misses some basics for the first timers. :)
A nice tutorial, as always! Thank you for your useful tips and also for highlighting the mistakes. I believe it's also worth noting that the first stalls should be learned in a safe environment (e.g. in an SIV course). I needed quite some time to get my stalls smooth so wanted to make a video about it too - well, you mentioned almost all of the points I wanted to talk about. Your tutorials are great, keep them coming!
This videos are so good, so well made and everything is explained so well in these videos that they are the most useful and best that I have seen in the world of paragliding and there are many good videos but Teo is fantastic in his explanations and his clear concise language and precise. thank you
Thanks so much !!!!! I really wanted this update, as many people I think ! A bit tricky for me to manage the fear of doing it, I just stall the tips and release for now... I guess, once you have done it completely, it will seem easy ! Any advice to step it ? How do you manage the turbulences on the other hand ? This question applies also for all the maneuvers, wingovers, sat, etc. Thanks again for your knowledge and vulgarization !!!
Find yourself a nice day with nice altitude and a good safe box and go for it. Remember that if it seems out of control go hands up and accept the shoot. Limit movement as much as possible. For turbulence that’s a complicated topic as it depends on a lot of parameters. The best is tu fly at contact point and to lower your hand to find back pressure every time you feel you loose it but that’s not something that doesn’t need any adapting it’s a basic advice let’s say
@@theoflies Thanks a lot for your answer ! I'm really motivated to perform stalls as soon as possible... For the turbulences, my question was not well asked, sorry. How to deal with turbulences when practicing maneuvers like wingovers, stalls, sat,... ? For example, I can do quite good wingovers in calm air (not the rest fort now). But when bumpy, I dislike to engage big ones, I find it scary... How to move on ?
Ah sorry, well that’s easy, the best is to find the area without turbulences. Otherwise if you can’t find it you can do them being quite careful in the timing. For exemple if it’s bumpy you are going to pull earlier than when it’s not. They won’t look as good but with more energy and therefore more solid to turbulence and you will feel it less.
@@theoflies Ok, I will try this earlier timing ! I keep this idea of more energy. Once again, thank you so much for your advices and videos !!! And one day I hope, come and fly at La Jasserie, Massif du Pilat ! (C'est pas loin de chez toi 😉)
I really hoped you'd switch to a Xenon to finish the video, as talking about cravates with Mentor isn't really fair, right? :) There are multiple ways to exit the stall without them on a high A.R. wing, but it's definitely somethin most of us have troubles dealing with and I guess it could be a full separate video. But tbh the method you've shown I see the first time, although intuitively I guess it's what we're always trying to do. I will definitely give a try provoking it, as you did, but I'm not 100% sure it would be so effective with a 2 liner- it takes a moment to bring back and re-inflate those tips, while the center wants to fly already.
I did the exact same video with a xenon 2 years ago. It’s on my channel you should check it out as I explain this method which is more effective on a 2 liner than on an ENB
Thanks Théo, such a great video as always! What do you think of spin to backfly. I was taught that in a recent SIV here in Japan: - slow glider down, hands to carabiners or so - pierce on one side, that side starts to flutter backwards and stall - as that happens, immediately put both hands at the same level in a somewhat deep back fly (for me slightly below carabiners) - raise the hands to a stable and nice back fly position It felt great because there was basically no falling backwards at all, it felt just like a different flight regime with a super smooth entry
Spin to backfly is indeed a very easy way to find the back fly. But in my opinion that implies someone who has already experienced backfly, and backfly position. I always teach spin to backfly to my students but I always do stall first in order for them to have some muscle memory from the backfly position. So spin to backfly is indeed smoother than stall to backfly but I believe it is important to first know the backfly points before going through it to avoid possible issues but of course in a majority of cases it would work well for first timers.
I was as well told it's an easier way to learn, but even though it might be slightly less brutal, it actually feels weird, and it's very hard to stay symmetric as you get a lot of roll from the initial spin; plus it's completely unnatural and not the way you'd ever be stalling your wing on purpose, which IMO makes it more of a fun exercise than a way to learn. The feeling of falling backwards in stall is just something you need to learn coping with, and ideally even enjoy, cause it will happen to you eventually and it would be nice if you did not panic then :)
00:04 🪂 *Full stall technique has evolved over time due to advancements in glider design, necessitating updates in training.* 01:43 🛫 *Two-stage stall technique involves initially stalling the tips, then stalling the glider for real to achieve stability.* 03:16 🔄 *Pay attention to timing in two-stage stall to avoid common mistakes like insufficient stalling or releasing too late.* 04:51 💡 *Mastering the two-stage stall allows for efficient entry into a stable back fly position.* 06:35 🤝 *Maintain symmetry and control during back fly exit to prevent complications like cravats.* 08:11 🎯 *Aim to streamline stall maneuvers by shortening the process while maintaining control and precision.* 10:22 ⏭️ *Create quicker exits from back fly by generating a forward surge, reducing waiting time.* 11:59 📉 *Condense stall procedures by identifying and transitioning through each step swiftly, while maintaining clarity.* 13:05 📐 *With experience, master stalls with a single input, efficiently transitioning to back fly without the need for a second input.* 14:45 ⚠️ *Avoid common mistakes like insufficient stalling, releasing too high, or over-piloting the exit, to ensure safe and effective stall maneuvers.*
Thank you for making this video, I learned many things! The fact that you manage to speak while you fly and perform the maneuvers is super impressive, however, if I can make a suggestion, I think that also makes the content a bit harder to follow. Additionally, the way this is filmed makes it hard to see the pitch/roll movements of the glider. I would suggest filming from the ground (like in SIVs), and playing the sequences multiple times, including in slow-motion, while you would speak over the video (I think the videos from @pilotage-parapente are super easy to follow and could be a source of inspiration!). Thank you again for your great work 🙏
thank you for your feedback :) I personnally dislike a bit the video from pilotage parapente cause they don't show how the pilot actually do, that's why I film myself doing to give what I believe is a more accurate vision. In the end I do it like this because there was only video from the outside and I believe that I would prefer inside videos so I did it. I am not saying pilotage parapente isn't good but rather that it didn't suit me so I did it the way I would like to see it hoping it would work for some people. Probably some other would prefer pilotage parapente's way and that way there is an offer for everyone.
Thank you for taking the time to respond, I appreciate! You make a good point that having a clear view of the actions done by the pilot has a lot of value. So maybe a possible improvement could be to have both, a perspective close to the pilot (like you do) and a larger perspective. They could be played side by side. All of that would require more setup and more post-processing, unfortunately… BTW, I’ve just noticed that Jocky Sanderson published a video that combines both perspectives here: ua-cam.com/video/e7D5M7v8A-g/v-deo.html. I would not say this the best video, but I appreciate seeing both the actions done by the pilots and the reactions on the wing.
Superb video. One question, wouldn't you only stall in a difficult to recover scenario? This 2 stage approach seems to require that the glider is flying stable overhead to start.
Yes exactly you would stall in a difficult to recover situation and in that situation you need to be super fluent in your stalls to be able to do it perfectly. Often if you stall 1 stage it won’t do the intended stall anyway and therefore the 2 stage approach although a bit more unstable will be more efficient. And btw you don’t necessarily need to have the wing stable above your head :) it’s just easier. Once you are very good you can train to stall in all kind of situations
Instructions unclear. I'm stuck twisted in infinity drinking a redbull 😱what do i do ?! More seriously, thanks Theo ! Would love to see a 360 landing tutorial : )
I hope he doesn't, it's way to risky, almost every well known acro pilot got seriously hurt doing them. I sometimes train them when there is fresh snow, but wouldn't do them in summer. This year a friend got seriously hurt because he was used to doing them in snow, hut when he did them on grass his wing caught some grass and he crashed.
I probably will not do a ground spiral landing for several reason, first of all I am not an expert at ground spiral, I can do them ok but I am not at all an expert. Second of all on the contrary to the tricks I do with the tutorials normally the ground spiral technique and theory is not that difficult but what makes it difficult is that you need to constantly adapt and change every setup depending on the area, conditions etc therefore it is not really something with a fixed « how to do it » and lastly it’s pretty dangerous. I consider missing a trick high up pretty safe because you can use your rescue. Missing a ground spiral usually has terrible consequences so I wouldn’t actually do a tutorial about them. Chrigel did one if you want to check out on UA-cam
@@theoflies Thanks for your reply. I agree that it is a very dangerous technique, and I am aware that my knowledge is far from trying something like that, I just wanted to hear how the professionals explain it. By the way, you are a great teacher and I enjoy watching every one of your videos, over and over again :) And your explanations give me confidence to improve my flying. Safe fly and safe landing!
@@mraffifpv1685 I completely agree with you that it is risky. And it is much better to learn some flying techniques which are much more necessary for safe flying.
Hm, also, I see you bring back your hands all the way up, I figured out with some wings, like PHI Scala for example, in such case the tips immediately get some air and jump forward too much. It was always smoother when I kept at least a bit of brakes on the move up, and then back down to backfly. Anyway, great video as usual.
In my experience it’s more due to the first braking input than the release. The release could be up to the top or not it’s the timing and the first brake input that matters the most
@@theoflies what do you mean by timing? I usually go full brakes from trim speed to get it quite dynamic and release immediately after or otherwise the tips touch. Not sure what else can be done there. And doing all that same I see difference between releasing fully and releasing up to carabineers or so. I guess it will different between the gliders, as e.g. Zeolite gave much more time margin to release.
Thanks a lot for the update! How can I ensure that when I "go hands up" after initiating the stall, that I "catch" the glider at a low enough point to prevent it from shooting? I'm a bit unsure because I haven't done a stall yet and I'm curious if it's best to catch it really low (so for example below the carabiners) for the very first stalls?
I think Theo will reply to you himself, but let me tell you what I've learned: the most important moment here is the stall entry, that exact moment when the wing tips stall. If you do it right (not too much so that the whole trailing edge folds down, but not too little so that you get into a deep stall instead of a full stall), then the wing won't aggressively shoot forward at all. You will have a lot of time and you will only need to give a smooth, slight brake impulse - not a deep one. You see, there are a lot of small details you should care about, so maybe it's not the best way to learn stalling by watching videos. My hint: talk to an experienced SIV instructor, it will make everything a lot easier!
Indeed if you are scared of not catching the initial shoot you can over do it and put your hand lower. Your stall will then be more unstable and release it into backfly will be less comfortable. But if you make a mistake there the shoot won’t be so hard as soon as you don’t over pilot it. That being said it’s all about the initial brake input. If you do it correctly the door to brake again is pretty obvious. About trying by yourself I have known a lot of pilots over the years and some are highly self confident some are less confident. My experience is that being on one group or the other doesn’t make you a better pilot. But it’s important to know where you are. If you are self confident and feel like you can do it deep down then you can try by yourself and go step by step. Of course taking a safe box safe altitude and brief yourself about your rescue correctly. On the other hand if you are not super self confident you should go to an siv course and enjoy the instructor help and knowledge to reassure you and also to help you get further. Either way you would learn a ton about flying.
@@dymanoid Thanks a lot for clarifying. I've already enrolled in an SIV course scheduled for next May. Until then, I aim to gather a lot of theoretical knowledge on stalls :) Your answer is very much appreciated!
@@theoflies I deeply appreciate your thorough answer. I have already done an SIV course this summer but there I focused only on wingovers. Therefore I will probably wait until my next SIV course in May 2024. Your advice and videos are incredibly valuable to me until then. Thank you immensely!
It is possible yes, although it doesn’t bring much because we do stalls in order to know how to react in case we have to do them in real life and even more probably we end up stalling by mistake in real life and have to recognise and exit them so it’s better to train them « as you would do them » to create muscle memory
Awesome tutorial! I think i know the answer but... Without having completed an SIV course, is this intended for pilots like me? I am a beginner-intermediate. (320h)
I always advise the same thing to people, it’s all about self confidence and how you feel about it, if you feel comfortable and you feel internally that you can do it you can try by yourself. However if you don’t feel comfortable or if you feel unsure better to go and take an siv with a qualified instructor who will be able to help you out, reassure you and give you advices on the go. But if you feel like you are able to do it you can do it. Paragliding is a personal journey and a personal feeling :)
@@theoflies thank you Theo, I learned to wing overs from your tutorial, watching it over 2 years And getting technique just right. After an accidental stall, I really want to be more in control. So I want to learn to back fly, then recover.
@@Oomzilla I also got accidental stalls doing XC when I was around 100h. The next year (this year) I did a "lot" of stalls (>85) to prepare the season and it felt so good to start the XC season with knowledge of what a stall feels like, where it is, etc.
Almost with every wing indeed. Very few wing will handle the 1 stage stall well and even those wing will handle the 2 stage stall very well. So probably better to learn this straight away
Theo, all your videos are excellent tutorials, but this one is pure GOLD! Thank you for that! Merci!
Thank you, Theo! Obviously, all levels of pilots can learn something from you and this video has been a demonstration of that. You explained a tricky maneuver with great detail while keeping it simple enought for everybody to understand. I love how you are leveling up our sport and keeping to give back to the community, thank you!
Thanks :)
Cool, merci. Two time stalls decreases the twist risk significantly as the wing does not deflate and keeps it's shape. I do appreciate you demonstrating the what can go wrong scenarios.
This is great - thanks! I've been working on deep stall which seems also the nicest way to enter backfly. But as soon as I have some height to practice stalls again, I'm going to try this aggravating the pitch to find a nice exit window. Seems a great way to help avoid cravats on the exit, which often seems to happen if I exit too quickly from backfly without the wing being in front. Thanks!
Thanks for another great video. I think anyone who is watching a stall tutorial for the first time should watch the first video before this one. This one misses some basics for the first timers. :)
A nice tutorial, as always! Thank you for your useful tips and also for highlighting the mistakes. I believe it's also worth noting that the first stalls should be learned in a safe environment (e.g. in an SIV course). I needed quite some time to get my stalls smooth so wanted to make a video about it too - well, you mentioned almost all of the points I wanted to talk about. Your tutorials are great, keep them coming!
This videos are so good, so well made and everything is explained so well in these videos that they are the most useful and best that I have seen in the world of paragliding and there are many good videos but Teo is fantastic in his explanations and his clear concise language and precise. thank you
As always, thanks so much for your advice!
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Your tutorial is very good.Very easy to understand.thanks for sharing👍👍👍🙏
We use it since a few years in SIV and yes its much easier for all students on all gliders 😉
Yes me too 😂 but the first stall tutorial was in 2013 or something 😂
Thanks so much !!!!!
I really wanted this update, as many people I think !
A bit tricky for me to manage the fear of doing it, I just stall the tips and release for now...
I guess, once you have done it completely, it will seem easy !
Any advice to step it ?
How do you manage the turbulences on the other hand ?
This question applies also for all the maneuvers, wingovers, sat, etc.
Thanks again for your knowledge and vulgarization !!!
Find yourself a nice day with nice altitude and a good safe box and go for it. Remember that if it seems out of control go hands up and accept the shoot. Limit movement as much as possible.
For turbulence that’s a complicated topic as it depends on a lot of parameters. The best is tu fly at contact point and to lower your hand to find back pressure every time you feel you loose it but that’s not something that doesn’t need any adapting it’s a basic advice let’s say
@@theoflies Thanks a lot for your answer !
I'm really motivated to perform stalls as soon as possible...
For the turbulences, my question was not well asked, sorry.
How to deal with turbulences when practicing maneuvers like wingovers, stalls, sat,... ?
For example, I can do quite good wingovers in calm air (not the rest fort now).
But when bumpy, I dislike to engage big ones, I find it scary...
How to move on ?
Ah sorry, well that’s easy, the best is to find the area without turbulences. Otherwise if you can’t find it you can do them being quite careful in the timing. For exemple if it’s bumpy you are going to pull earlier than when it’s not. They won’t look as good but with more energy and therefore more solid to turbulence and you will feel it less.
@@theoflies Ok, I will try this earlier timing !
I keep this idea of more energy.
Once again, thank you so much for your advices and videos !!!
And one day I hope, come and fly at La Jasserie, Massif du Pilat ! (C'est pas loin de chez toi 😉)
I really hoped you'd switch to a Xenon to finish the video, as talking about cravates with Mentor isn't really fair, right? :) There are multiple ways to exit the stall without them on a high A.R. wing, but it's definitely somethin most of us have troubles dealing with and I guess it could be a full separate video. But tbh the method you've shown I see the first time, although intuitively I guess it's what we're always trying to do. I will definitely give a try provoking it, as you did, but I'm not 100% sure it would be so effective with a 2 liner- it takes a moment to bring back and re-inflate those tips, while the center wants to fly already.
I did the exact same video with a xenon 2 years ago. It’s on my channel you should check it out as I explain this method which is more effective on a 2 liner than on an ENB
Great tutorial, thanks a lot Theo 🤙🏼
Congrats! A great one, again! It's easy! 😊
Thank you 🔥
Thanks Theo, I’ll try it next few days. I would love to see a basic acro on en-B glider tuts
You could check out Pál Takáts' Master Acro series - he shows many acro tricks on a Rush, a high EN-B.
Thanks Théo, such a great video as always! What do you think of spin to backfly. I was taught that in a recent SIV here in Japan:
- slow glider down, hands to carabiners or so
- pierce on one side, that side starts to flutter backwards and stall
- as that happens, immediately put both hands at the same level in a somewhat deep back fly (for me slightly below carabiners)
- raise the hands to a stable and nice back fly position
It felt great because there was basically no falling backwards at all, it felt just like a different flight regime with a super smooth entry
Spin to backfly is indeed a very easy way to find the back fly. But in my opinion that implies someone who has already experienced backfly, and backfly position. I always teach spin to backfly to my students but I always do stall first in order for them to have some muscle memory from the backfly position. So spin to backfly is indeed smoother than stall to backfly but I believe it is important to first know the backfly points before going through it to avoid possible issues but of course in a majority of cases it would work well for first timers.
@@theoflies Makes sense, thanks so much for your input!
I was as well told it's an easier way to learn, but even though it might be slightly less brutal, it actually feels weird, and it's very hard to stay symmetric as you get a lot of roll from the initial spin; plus it's completely unnatural and not the way you'd ever be stalling your wing on purpose, which IMO makes it more of a fun exercise than a way to learn. The feeling of falling backwards in stall is just something you need to learn coping with, and ideally even enjoy, cause it will happen to you eventually and it would be nice if you did not panic then :)
00:04 🪂 *Full stall technique has evolved over time due to advancements in glider design, necessitating updates in training.*
01:43 🛫 *Two-stage stall technique involves initially stalling the tips, then stalling the glider for real to achieve stability.*
03:16 🔄 *Pay attention to timing in two-stage stall to avoid common mistakes like insufficient stalling or releasing too late.*
04:51 💡 *Mastering the two-stage stall allows for efficient entry into a stable back fly position.*
06:35 🤝 *Maintain symmetry and control during back fly exit to prevent complications like cravats.*
08:11 🎯 *Aim to streamline stall maneuvers by shortening the process while maintaining control and precision.*
10:22 ⏭️ *Create quicker exits from back fly by generating a forward surge, reducing waiting time.*
11:59 📉 *Condense stall procedures by identifying and transitioning through each step swiftly, while maintaining clarity.*
13:05 📐 *With experience, master stalls with a single input, efficiently transitioning to back fly without the need for a second input.*
14:45 ⚠️ *Avoid common mistakes like insufficient stalling, releasing too high, or over-piloting the exit, to ensure safe and effective stall maneuvers.*
Good stuff as always! Keep it up Theo! Safe Landings fellow bird!
Cool!
GOAT
Master peace!! 😍
Thank you for making this video, I learned many things! The fact that you manage to speak while you fly and perform the maneuvers is super impressive, however, if I can make a suggestion, I think that also makes the content a bit harder to follow. Additionally, the way this is filmed makes it hard to see the pitch/roll movements of the glider. I would suggest filming from the ground (like in SIVs), and playing the sequences multiple times, including in slow-motion, while you would speak over the video (I think the videos from @pilotage-parapente are super easy to follow and could be a source of inspiration!). Thank you again for your great work 🙏
thank you for your feedback :)
I personnally dislike a bit the video from pilotage parapente cause they don't show how the pilot actually do, that's why I film myself doing to give what I believe is a more accurate vision. In the end I do it like this because there was only video from the outside and I believe that I would prefer inside videos so I did it. I am not saying pilotage parapente isn't good but rather that it didn't suit me so I did it the way I would like to see it hoping it would work for some people. Probably some other would prefer pilotage parapente's way and that way there is an offer for everyone.
Thank you for taking the time to respond, I appreciate! You make a good point that having a clear view of the actions done by the pilot has a lot of value. So maybe a possible improvement could be to have both, a perspective close to the pilot (like you do) and a larger perspective. They could be played side by side. All of that would require more setup and more post-processing, unfortunately…
BTW, I’ve just noticed that Jocky Sanderson published a video that combines both perspectives here: ua-cam.com/video/e7D5M7v8A-g/v-deo.html. I would not say this the best video, but I appreciate seeing both the actions done by the pilots and the reactions on the wing.
@@theoflies i enjoy both ^^ and indeed only pilot is sometime not enough to understand the wing's behaviour
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Superb video. One question, wouldn't you only stall in a difficult to recover scenario? This 2 stage approach seems to require that the glider is flying stable overhead to start.
Yes exactly you would stall in a difficult to recover situation and in that situation you need to be super fluent in your stalls to be able to do it perfectly. Often if you stall 1 stage it won’t do the intended stall anyway and therefore the 2 stage approach although a bit more unstable will be more efficient.
And btw you don’t necessarily need to have the wing stable above your head :) it’s just easier. Once you are very good you can train to stall in all kind of situations
Instructions unclear. I'm stuck twisted in infinity drinking a redbull 😱what do i do ?!
More seriously, thanks Theo ! Would love to see a 360 landing tutorial : )
You mean ground spiral landing :) I hope they make a video about it.
I hope he doesn't, it's way to risky, almost every well known acro pilot got seriously hurt doing them. I sometimes train them when there is fresh snow, but wouldn't do them in summer. This year a friend got seriously hurt because he was used to doing them in snow, hut when he did them on grass his wing caught some grass and he crashed.
I probably will not do a ground spiral landing for several reason, first of all I am not an expert at ground spiral, I can do them ok but I am not at all an expert. Second of all on the contrary to the tricks I do with the tutorials normally the ground spiral technique and theory is not that difficult but what makes it difficult is that you need to constantly adapt and change every setup depending on the area, conditions etc therefore it is not really something with a fixed « how to do it » and lastly it’s pretty dangerous. I consider missing a trick high up pretty safe because you can use your rescue. Missing a ground spiral usually has terrible consequences so I wouldn’t actually do a tutorial about them. Chrigel did one if you want to check out on UA-cam
@@theoflies Thanks for your reply. I agree that it is a very dangerous technique, and I am aware that my knowledge is far from trying something like that, I just wanted to hear how the professionals explain it. By the way, you are a great teacher and I enjoy watching every one of your videos, over and over again :) And your explanations give me confidence to improve my flying. Safe fly and safe landing!
@@mraffifpv1685 I completely agree with you that it is risky. And it is much better to learn some flying techniques which are much more necessary for safe flying.
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Fantastic as always, whats the sink rate when you are going in stable backfly?
Hm, also, I see you bring back your hands all the way up, I figured out with some wings, like PHI Scala for example, in such case the tips immediately get some air and jump forward too much. It was always smoother when I kept at least a bit of brakes on the move up, and then back down to backfly. Anyway, great video as usual.
In my experience it’s more due to the first braking input than the release. The release could be up to the top or not it’s the timing and the first brake input that matters the most
@@theoflies what do you mean by timing? I usually go full brakes from trim speed to get it quite dynamic and release immediately after or otherwise the tips touch. Not sure what else can be done there. And doing all that same I see difference between releasing fully and releasing up to carabineers or so. I guess it will different between the gliders, as e.g. Zeolite gave much more time margin to release.
What are the specific techniques to open different types of cravats?
what's the key for the smoothest "short" version you're showing?
Thanks a lot for the update! How can I ensure that when I "go hands up" after initiating the stall, that I "catch" the glider at a low enough point to prevent it from shooting?
I'm a bit unsure because I haven't done a stall yet and I'm curious if it's best to catch it really low (so for example below the carabiners) for the very first stalls?
I think Theo will reply to you himself, but let me tell you what I've learned: the most important moment here is the stall entry, that exact moment when the wing tips stall. If you do it right (not too much so that the whole trailing edge folds down, but not too little so that you get into a deep stall instead of a full stall), then the wing won't aggressively shoot forward at all. You will have a lot of time and you will only need to give a smooth, slight brake impulse - not a deep one. You see, there are a lot of small details you should care about, so maybe it's not the best way to learn stalling by watching videos. My hint: talk to an experienced SIV instructor, it will make everything a lot easier!
Indeed if you are scared of not catching the initial shoot you can over do it and put your hand lower. Your stall will then be more unstable and release it into backfly will be less comfortable. But if you make a mistake there the shoot won’t be so hard as soon as you don’t over pilot it.
That being said it’s all about the initial brake input. If you do it correctly the door to brake again is pretty obvious.
About trying by yourself I have known a lot of pilots over the years and some are highly self confident some are less confident. My experience is that being on one group or the other doesn’t make you a better pilot. But it’s important to know where you are.
If you are self confident and feel like you can do it deep down then you can try by yourself and go step by step. Of course taking a safe box safe altitude and brief yourself about your rescue correctly.
On the other hand if you are not super self confident you should go to an siv course and enjoy the instructor help and knowledge to reassure you and also to help you get further. Either way you would learn a ton about flying.
@@dymanoid Thanks a lot for clarifying. I've already enrolled in an SIV course scheduled for next May. Until then, I aim to gather a lot of theoretical knowledge on stalls :)
Your answer is very much appreciated!
@@theoflies I deeply appreciate your thorough answer. I have already done an SIV course this summer but there I focused only on wingovers. Therefore I will probably wait until my next SIV course in May 2024. Your advice and videos are incredibly valuable to me until then. Thank you immensely!
Is organya good these days? When was that flight filmed?
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thanks !
do you still recommend back fly from deep stall?
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Is it possible to stall with the back risers? Do people ever do that? I've always wondered
It is possible yes, although it doesn’t bring much because we do stalls in order to know how to react in case we have to do them in real life and even more probably we end up stalling by mistake in real life and have to recognise and exit them so it’s better to train them « as you would do them » to create muscle memory
I've seen some videos, I think David Eyraud does it with some students that want extensive back riser pilotage training
try kw "décrochage aux arrières"
Awesome tutorial! I think i know the answer but... Without having completed an SIV course, is this intended for pilots like me? I am a beginner-intermediate. (320h)
I always advise the same thing to people, it’s all about self confidence and how you feel about it, if you feel comfortable and you feel internally that you can do it you can try by yourself. However if you don’t feel comfortable or if you feel unsure better to go and take an siv with a qualified instructor who will be able to help you out, reassure you and give you advices on the go. But if you feel like you are able to do it you can do it. Paragliding is a personal journey and a personal feeling :)
@@theoflies thank you Theo, I learned to wing overs from your tutorial, watching it over 2 years And getting technique just right.
After an accidental stall, I really want to be more in control. So I want to learn to back fly, then recover.
@@Oomzilla I also got accidental stalls doing XC when I was around 100h. The next year (this year) I did a "lot" of stalls (>85) to prepare the season and it felt so good to start the XC season with knowledge of what a stall feels like, where it is, etc.
Is the 2 stage stall the best option for all types of wings, even for gliders with low aspect ratio?
Almost with every wing indeed. Very few wing will handle the 1 stage stall well and even those wing will handle the 2 stage stall very well. So probably better to learn this straight away
In french please ❤
geil! looks so easy.... but isnt.....
Thank you!🫶🏻