Ive always had my camera recording levels set to like 10 or 12 and never knew why I was told to have them so low. Perfect video thank you SO MUCH SIR 🙏🏻
Using a Sony ZV-e10 and just picked up the new Rode VideoMic Go ii. Looking to boom the mic over my head. Let’s see how we go with reflections on my desk
Hey John Paul! Thanks for your comment! I think with the right angle, you'll probably be able to get the mic's rejection area facing any possible upward reflection.
This video is a perfect explanation of this issue. Many of us unconsciously get this step wrong and react clueless when we notice the clear unbalance in our audio. Thank you for this.
I'm totally new to the recording world. I usually post a comment saying VERY HELPFUL when I get some solid advice from a UA-cam video. This was EXTREMELY HELPFUL! Thank you!
Basically, turn the camera all the way down to the lowest level, then adjust the mic level - I have the same mic, and could not get it to sound good for a long time!
Hey, Wayne - I have been testing the Sony ECM-W2BT with my Sony RX0 II, and I need my audio level on the RX0 II at 15 since the ECM-W2BT has no powered gain. So then I tried it with the Elgato Wave 3 mic (TRS cable on the monitor jack of the Wave mic), this time the RX0 II at audio level 3, and the mic level on my Wave 3 at 3 and jack monitor to the camera at level 4, with my Alienware M15R3 running the Wave Link app for the Wave 3. Note that I was also using the Wave 3 with NVDIA BroadCast with noise cancellation. I had to still denoise both in post-production to eliminate the hissing with the ECM-W2BT, and some constant electrical grounded sound with the Wave 3 mic connection. I use an electric fan 2M away for my ventilation, and window-type air-condition creates the similar noise - this is why I still need to denoise my videos. In the end, using my Wave 3 with my camera had the best result than the ECM-W2BT. In my conclusion at this time, a powered mic with gain control has better results. I will check this with my ZV-1 next.
Thanks for sharing your detailed set up! I think you're right, the lack of fine control over the gain settings for the ECM-W2BT makes it extremely hard to use under certain specific conditions, much like you described. I think in your specific case, you may benefit from a slightly different audio set up. If you require a fan to be on while recording, using a mic that has a super directional pick up pattern (typically referred to as a super-cardioid polar pattern usually found in shotgun style mics) could help with external noise. A mic like that will reject noise from the sides. As such, with the right mic placement in relationship to you and the fan, it could help mitigate unwanted noise. I'm actually planning a video demonstrating this so keep an eye out for it!
Can't believe this is unprocessed, I thought for sure this was after noise reduction. I'm also using sony zve10, but build-in mic but the background noise is so loud even after noise reduction, almost covers my voice 😂 I'm buying a new mic after watching this. Thank you so much for this video!
Thanks for your comment! Glad my video was helpful! With regards to my unprocessed audio, I record the majority of my videos in my recording studio for my professional voiceover work. So my space isn't typical with regards to room noise.
Each and every of your videos is absolutely awesome - never found such precise pieces of information in any other video here on youtube - thanks for your great work!
Wow, greatest example! Thank you for this impressiv comparison. I definitely go for B! In my online-lessions in school and teacher-education, I’m always pointing to the importance of clear, human sounding audio.
I have sony alpha 6600 and scarlet focusritte 2i2 4th and shure sm7dB. My camera mic is on 3 and shure throught focusrite is automatic. But still have hissing nosie and i tryed ewerithing but still have this hissing sound..
Oh my gosh, I've been doing it wrong. Grrrr! I struggle with sound, but I won't for the next videos as I will start applying everything that I learned from you "professor". Thank you.... again...
Hello! I have a Sony Zv1 and a rode NTG. The input prongs on the wire has 3 black rings… is this the proper input for the Zv1 or should their only be 2?
Good concise video for sure. I have the ZV-E10 and Nikon Z6ii. Both DO NOT allow you to accept line level audio and you're stuck with using their mic. pre-amps to some degree. My Fuji X-S10 allowed me to select mic or line level. I think all Fuji's do. This allowed me to use a quality external recorder, pre-amps and microphone and send the audio line out to the Fuji as line input to the mic jack. This also gave me baked in 48k/24bit audio. With the Sony you're stuck with 48k/16 bit and NO ONE wants 16 bit anymore. Have you found any way to get better than 16 bit audio onto your video recordings on this camera? I'm seriously thinking of selling this and going back to Fuji just for the better audio.
This is the video I was looking for. However, my mic don’t have any gain adjustment (Røde video mic, the one with the high pass filter and the battery) My audio sounds extremely bad and tinny I’ve tried adjusting the gain on the camera but it doesn’t do anything. Do you know if I might be doing something wrong?
Hey there! Thanks for your comment! I checked out your last video and I thought it sounded great! If you're still having issues, what camera are you using? There may be some audio setting that could be turned on (or off) to help get clearer audio. For example, if you audio sounds tinny, check to see if your camera has some kind of Wind Reduction enabled. Some cameras have this feature for their built in mics and some for external mics, but either way, they typically cut a lot of the lower end bass frequencies. Otherwise, if you're mic doesn't have any gain adjustment, getting it physically closer to you can also help. Even like an 11" Magic Arm that has a cold shoe mount when placed on your camera can help get your mic much closer to you. I've seen these for ~$20.
@@WayneRECs Thanks for the response! I'm using the same camera as you, the ZV-E10 (it's currently getting a repair because it wasn't turning on) but this also happened with my nikon, Maybe I just got a faulty mic? Also thanks for the feed back, I was actually Just recording With my Iphone because I couldn't fix my camera. And for the voice over segments I'm using a $30 USB mic from amazon (I really need a new one)
So I record video on my iPhone using the native camera app. My last video series on my channel I used the rode wireless go, I thought it sounded ok as long as the mic was next to my mouth. I recently bought the rode video mic ntg, plan on seeing how that sounds with my iPhone 13 pro max soon. Appreciate the tips!
Awesome Rosh! The VideoMic NTG should sound great with your iPhone! And the fact it has a physical gain knob will really help in dialing in the right level!
Hey Andy! Thanks for your comment! If you're using a RODE VideoMicro, then yes, the only level adjustment you have would in in your camera. However, you can still do a few things to improve your audio! The first would be to physically get your mic closer to you. By using something like a boom mic stand and a longer 3.5mm cable (or 3.5mm extension cable), you can take your mic off your camera (if that's where it's currently located) and boom it over head just out of frame. You may need to adjust your shot framing to position your head a little closer to the top of the frame, but this repositioning of a mic has the potential for a better overall sound. Especially with talking head videos where the equipment is static. Hope this helps!
@@WayneRECs Thanks for the advice, I did get that from watching your video and my new lead just arrived today. ;-) So thanks again and keep up the great work. :-)
I have canon M50 and rode videomicro. Just those two is not working well. It works if I use long cabel and take videomicro near. I have been hapy owner of zoom h1n one year. Still learning but next level results every time when using it. Found your chanel today. I like it🔥. External recording, posibilities with that is intresting, if you plann furure videos. 👍🏼
You saved my day 🫶 Just got my lavalier and when connected to my ZV-1, I had terrible noise - Then I discovered the mic recording level setting inside the camera was set on 25. I lowered it down to 4 and it sounds almost perfect ❤ Thanks a lot!
Hi Wayne. I don't really know a lot about this stuff but you're video was really good. We've just purchased the ZV-E10 with the Rode VideoMic Go II. However unless I'm missing something, there are no controls on the mic itself, like gain control. Any specific advice for this mic setup? I've been connecting directly into the Camera using the TRS 3.5mm. Any thoughts?
Hey Beren! The RODE Videomic GO II is designed for ease of use with cameras. While there are advance functionalities when you connect the mic to your computer via USB, if you're using your VM GO II plugged directly into your camera (ZV-E10) via the 3.5mm cable, the only real adjustment you'll need to set is the Audio Record Level in the ZV-E10. Subsequently, the ways you can improve the sound of this particular setup is to get the mic as close as you can to your subject. For example, if you have the mic mounted in the hot shoe of the camera and you're vlogging, the distance between you and the mic is probably ok. But if your camera is further than an arm's length away, consider using a separate mic stand/ boom arm and 3.5mm extension cable and get the mic off the camera and closer to the subject. This enables you to lower the audio record level resulting in a cleaner recording. You could also consider recording your audio with the VM GO II separately from your camera using a tablet or smartphone or computer via it's usb output and then sync'ing the audio recording in post. I've found that using the mic as a usb mic and doing a separate digital recording can sound cleaner than relying on the ZV-E10's mic input.
Great video. HOwever, as a newbie (beginner) to cameras, it would have been nice if you could have showed us where to go in the menu.....but I'll look. ♥
Hi, thanks for your comment! I would have shown the menu navigation but they are all a little different depending on the camera you have. Additionally, sometimes they are "hidden" and only accessible if you enable "PRO" mode or something similar in your camera's menu settings. Let me know if you still have trouble finding the right setting and tell me what camera you're using and I'll see if I can point you in the right direction.
Ultra Like!. Weird thing that in a lot of videos, there was told opposite. That Mic level should be set as minimun as could. But camera level should be higher cause it will help external mic to process audio sound.. But doing that i was experiencing exact thingy that you've shown - The noise, that prompted me to put volume to minimum at the post... Thx Mate, god bless !
This is what I've found on RODE's website: "When connecting the Wireless GO II receiver (RX) to a camera or audio recorder using a 3.5mm connection, it's a good place to start with the Wireless GO II RX is set to maximum gain (0dB) then adjust the recording level on the connected device by gradually reducing it until you reach an average of -12 dB on the device's audio metering. This careful adjustment will help optimize the recording volume." I'm quite confused.
Interesting. I was wondering about this since I just got the Sony ECM-W2BT wireless the other day, and I had Sony ZV-1 audio set to my usual level 23 with my Sony lavalier mic. This is what I was doing usually, and would denoise the audio in post-production. Now that I have a microphone that is self-powered, I will take your advice and see if it helps reduce the background noise. - but does this apply to the ECM-W2BT, or more for like a shotgun mic? In the last almost 2 years of learning to do better online learning content, audio quality should be prioritized more than video quality. I agree that it's better to watch something that has a good audio but terrible video quality, than something that has good video but terrible audio. I don't have an audio-treated area. Good job. Learning stuff from you.
Thanks for your comment! Glad you found my video helpful! This would only apply to the Sony ECM-W2BT under certain conditions. If you're using it with a non-Sony camera and running a 3.5mm cable from the Receiver's output jack (set to Analog) to your camera's input jack, then yes, in theory having the setting on the mic at ATT of 0db would be your best option and then set your camera's record level at the lowest setting. However, if you're using the ECM-W2BT with a compatible Sony camera via the MI Shoe, then your Audio Rec Level on your Sony camera may be greyed out. This effectively means your only form of control is the ATT switch on the Transmitter. I'm actually planning another video on the ECM-W2BT with my ZV-E10 to air some of the (IMO) shortcomings with the unit. But that being said, it seems Sony has a specific use case and targeted user base for this mic (which might not be me specifically). Either way, kudos to you for understanding the value of good audio! So glad you found my video!
The problem with Sony cameras is that you cannot select line level or mic level for the microphone port. I can do this with my Fuji camera and I set it to line level and I use a high-quality external Sound Source and send line out to my camera when I record and I get great audio baked into it
Then you only need to worry about your camera's recording level. However, depending on your use case, you can experiment with mic placement to improve your audio. Most people will mount a videomicro on top of their camera in the hot shoe. But if your camera is on a tripod, think about mounting your mic on a boom stand and running a longer cable to you camera. Anytime you can position a mic closer to the sound source, the lower you can set your camera's recording level (which can produce a cleaner recording)
Thanks for your info. I have a Canon M50 mark II and a BOYA M1 wired microphone, the problem is the mic doesn't have any gain control and I can only set it in the camera settings. What is the most optimal option ?
Thanks for your comment and question! If you're referring to the BOYA BY-M1 lav, there isn't a whole lot you can do. I would set your M50's record level only as high as you need to get a good signal (between -12db to -6db). The other things you can try are to experiment with your mic placement with the understanding that anytime you can get closer to your mouth, generally that's better. In post, you can use some EQ (a basic high pass filter around 80 Hz to 150 Hz depending on your voice) to help take out lower frequencies that aren't in your vocal range. The reality is that in some cases, if we need to prioritize our equipment budget, we often have to compromise on audio quality and/or features. But the important thing to remember, is that you can always upgrade gear later and simply getting a mic and learning about audio is the first step in the right direction. Hope this helps!
Loved this video I’ve been slapping random audios on my videos and never really paid too much attention to audio and notice when I do try it’s not always consistent for these same reasons you explained. Thank you 🙏🏼 instant sub Shooting on the Canon R5C and Rode NTG same as yours
Question for you! When should one use a pencil condenser mic? If I want to capture ambient noise when I'm traveling rather than capture my voice, should I be using a pencil condenser mic? Thanks!
Hi! Pencil condensers mics are great if you want to record things like ambient sound or instruments and need a small form factor. Typically, in field recording, like nature ambience, 2 pencil mics that are a matched pair (meaning calibrated at the factory to sound identical to each other) are used to create stereo recordings (usually in an XY or AB stereo configuration). This requires 2 inputs as well as a stereo bar to adjust mic positioning and creates a stereo sound. But if you're on a budget and/or only have a single input, using 1 pencil mic to record a mono track is also a good place to start, depending on your end goal usage of that recording.
I use a Sony a6400 and the Hollyland M1 Lark1 wireless microphones. Unfortunately, I can’t LISTEN to the recording while interviewing because the mic is occupying the only port available to the camera. How do I fix this? Because my professor demands that we listen as we are recording. Like…how?
I just Now ordered the sennheiser mke 600 before i used the extend camera mirophone i hope for best :) with this mic need to Do same settings ? I have too the sony sve 10
Hi Chris! Thanks for your comment! As the MKE 600 has no gain adjustments, if you're plugging it into your ZV-E10, you should start at the lowest Rec Level setting and then go up from there until you get the desired sound.
Hi Wayne! Thanks for this video! I use the Fujifilm XS10 along with the Rode Videomicro. I’m at -4.5 db - haven’t quite hit the sweet spot. Should I be keeping the yellow reaching at about -20, or is it supposed to be closer to zero? That part confuses me….
Hey Tom! I generally aim to get my record levels peaking between -12db to -6db. This ensures that there is head room in case of an unexpected loud sound, that hopefully the mic won't clip. I'd then make up any gain in post by boosting the audio by a few db if needed. With a set up like a Videomicro that has no gain control, you can really just focus on your camera setting with that -12/-6 target range in mind.
Hi Joon! Thanks for your question! I think it really depends on what brand and model all of your gear is and what produces the cleanest sound. Generally speaking, a mixer should output a cleaner signal than a camera's preamp, so I'd generally advise to set your mixer output on the higher side and your Sony record level on the lower side. Depending on your specific gear, it may take a little trial and error to see what works best for your setup.
Im using a Sony a7s3 and DJI Mic set up with a shure mic lav - still don't fully understand recover gain, audio rec level, and transmitter gain relationship.
How about the Zoom F1 where can adjust the microphone, headphone output and camera input level? If i set the headphone output to 100% it clipps in the camera
Sony ZV E10 with a condenser mic on an arm connected directly to the camera. My mic doesn’t have the means to adjust from the mic. Am I to understand, turning the rec level on the cameras mic is all there is? Is there no way to check levels short of recording and playing back? Is there no external mic settings,
My Boya MM1 is attached to my Zv1 and It picked up alot of background noises for my cooking videos 😢. I think I set the audio rec level too high? Current setting is at 27.
For field training sessions I use DJI Osmo Action paired with RODE Wireless Go, but the usual control environment videos are made with Canon R5+RODE VNTG. The VNTG has a strange issue though... every now and then it will not power up when the R5 starts recording. That's really frustrating as it has already ruined a few of my recorded episodes. My solution was to buy a VideoMic GO II because it does not use a battery. I like it quite a bit, but it is not as advanced as the VNTG (no gain control, dual channels, etc.). It's a shame, but I will be selling it if the VMII proves good enough, I've just tested it today. By the way that's how I came accross your channel, by researching info on the VideoMic Go II 🙂
Hi Vato! Thanks for your comment! Your hit or miss VNTG powering on sounds frustrating! TBH, that's one of the benefits of the VMGOII, that it doesn't have an internal battery to charge and is plug and go. Depending on the recording situation, sometimes it can be better to have reliability over features. This can be especially tough for solo content creators who may not even realize there was an issue during a shoot until they dump the footage and start editing! Let me know how the VMGOII works out for you!
Hi, I use Sony EZV10 as weil. But it seems like the Camera does not Connect with my RODE Video Micro 2 since there is NO Adio Sound at all when I set the Camera Audio to Level 4. maybe you can help me out ?
Hello friend, a question, when I am recording a scene with my Sony ZVE10 camera, the camera, I don't know why it records sounds that are very far from the place and when editing they are heard loudly. For example, he records the sounds that my neighbor makes and they are sounds that are difficult to hear with the ear but the camera does hear them, do you know a configuration so that the camera does not record external sounds so far away from the recording location? I would greatly appreciate your help.
Hey Chris! As I said in my other reply, you'll have to experiment with your specific set up in your specific recording environment. If you're using the ZV=E10 & MKE 600, you'll only really have ability to adjust the levels at the ZV-E10.
Well, as I don't possess 2 of these 3 pieces of equipment, I can't give you a definitive comparison, but from my experience, the RODE Videomic NTG has more features (control) over the MKE 600, specifically a gain dial at the rear of the mic (NTG). That feature alone as the potential to let you dial in your mic and camera settings to get the best sound. If you were going into plug them into a different device (with better preamps/inputs), either would sound great. But the ZV-E10 is a little noisy on the mic input gain, so being able to have adjustment ability at the mic can be beneficial.
I have a rode microvideo which doesn’t have built in level. Should I set the camera level to 14 or auto? Is this mic in general basically super average because of that?
I tried shooting with a clip-on microphone that is not adjustable and there's just no audio input. I tried with two different mics and they didn't work. Will have yo try something different
@@WayneRECs Camera: Sony ZV-EV10 Mics: Gyvzala Lavalier AGPTEK Lavalier They're two very basic and generic clip-on mics, idk if anyone will be familiar with them but there's that. Thanks in advance!
I'd first check the connectors of your two lav mics and ensure they are TRS connectors (3.5mm plugs with 2 black rings). The ZV-E10's mic input only accepts TRS mics, so if your lavs are TRRS (3 black rings) then the proper connections aren't being made.
@@WayneRECs turns out, I have jack adapters. I just tried what you said, and it worked! You nailed it! You earned yourself a loyal subscriber, thank you 🙏🏻
I have a Sony ZV1 using a rode wireless mic. I am having a problem where no matter how low the mic is I am picking up the sound from it rubbing against my body when clipped on and it's ruining my footage. Any suggestions??
A6600 and Rode Video Mic NTG. Is there are a reason why the audio is coming out only on one side? Can I fix this through the camera rather than in post? Haven’t found anything online…
Hey David! It could be a few different reasons. First check to see if the Safety Track is enabled on your VideoMic NTG. If the led below the icon that looks like 2 bars is illuminated, press the button directly below it to cycle through all the settings until it's off. With the Safety Track enable, the L audio channel in your camera will be recorded louder than the R channel which would make it seem like it's only on one side. If that doesn't solve it, check your cable between your mic and your camera. A faulty cable could only send 1 of the channels. Are you using the cable that came with your VideoMic NTG?
@@WayneRECs Hey Wayne, thanks for the response! I am using the original cord but that wasn’t it. Tried a different mic, which worked, so definitely the NTG. Tried updating the firmware but that didn’t work so gonna have to work with support after holiday. Thanks again for the response. Appreciate it!
Hi :) I am using the Sony A6300 with the ECM-GZ1M gunzoom-microphone, which is connected via the MI shoe. Apparently the audio rec level setting is disabled as long as it is connected and Sony states that you can only adjust the audio rec level only on the microphone itself. The problem is that the GZ1M doesn't have a control panel whatsoever, so it's completely automatic. My problem with this is the incredibly loud noise in rooms which is clearly caused by a way too high level. Is there a workaround to this to be able to adjust the audio rec level manually regardless of the MI shoe? Thanks for the video btw🙏
Thanks for your question! While the Sony MI shoe is a great cable free idea, Sony's implementation is super limiting. Unfortunately, based on the combination of mic and camera that you have, to my knowledge there is no workaround to adjust the gain input. If you had something like the Sony ECM-B1M, that has the physical functionality you're looking for but the GZ1M doesn't. If the GZ1M had a 3.5mm output, that would be a workaround, but as it only connects via the MI shoe, I think you're stuck. It's unfortunate, as the MI shoe is a great concept, but Sony's inconsistent implementation of it is super frustrating.
I have a Hyperx using my sony ev 10. When I turn the camera audio to 1 or 4 , rather my external mic is set to 0 gain or max i can barley hear a playback. Although if i set the camera to 17-20 there is a slight static but i can hear. Does anyone have this issue?
+Wayne RECs Does the ZV E10 have phantom power? I want to buy the Rode NTG4 which needs phantom power. I am hoping to just buy an XLR to 3.5mm adaptor and go directly into the ZV E110 for streaming.
Hey Trent! Unfortunately, the ZV-E10 doesn't provide 48v Phantom Power. If you're planning on streaming (from indoors) you could get a USB audio interface for your NTG4 and then be sure to route that audio to your stream.
Hey Joon! These days I typically aim for a peak level between -12db to -6db though currently, I often record in 32-bit float so as to not have to worry about setting levels.
So I have the Movo VXR10 Universal Video Microphone and it sounds TERRIBLE! I’m gonna try to adjust the sound settings again but I think this microphone is terrible for this camera.
Ive always had my camera recording levels set to like 10 or 12 and never knew why I was told to have them so low. Perfect video thank you SO MUCH SIR 🙏🏻
You explained this so well and straight to the point for a beginner. Thank you.
Using a Sony ZV-e10 and just picked up the new Rode VideoMic Go ii.
Looking to boom the mic over my head. Let’s see how we go with reflections on my desk
Hey John Paul! Thanks for your comment! I think with the right angle, you'll probably be able to get the mic's rejection area facing any possible upward reflection.
This video is a perfect explanation of this issue. Many of us unconsciously get this step wrong and react clueless when we notice the clear unbalance in our audio. Thank you for this.
I have sony ZV E10 with Rode wireless Go 2. Please tell me What will be the best audio lvl ön my camera with rode mic for Outdoor shot.
I'm totally new to the recording world. I usually post a comment saying VERY HELPFUL when I get some solid advice from a UA-cam video. This was EXTREMELY HELPFUL! Thank you!
Basically, turn the camera all the way down to the lowest level, then adjust the mic level - I have the same mic, and could not get it to sound good for a long time!
Hey Benjamin! Glad you were able to figure out the best settings for you! I checked out your videos and they sound great! Awesome job!
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Lapel mic to 0db and camera gain to 2... Results: perfect! Man this was helpful
I would've liked for you to tell me how to turn it down on the zv-e10
What if you want to use headphones whilst using an external mic to monitor the playback whilst recording?
I run a Sony ZV-E10 and for audio I run a Comica Vm20 boomed and ran through the Hollyland Lark 150 wireless system to the camera.
Hey, Wayne - I have been testing the Sony ECM-W2BT with my Sony RX0 II, and I need my audio level on the RX0 II at 15 since the ECM-W2BT has no powered gain. So then I tried it with the Elgato Wave 3 mic (TRS cable on the monitor jack of the Wave mic), this time the RX0 II at audio level 3, and the mic level on my Wave 3 at 3 and jack monitor to the camera at level 4, with my Alienware M15R3 running the Wave Link app for the Wave 3. Note that I was also using the Wave 3 with NVDIA BroadCast with noise cancellation. I had to still denoise both in post-production to eliminate the hissing with the ECM-W2BT, and some constant electrical grounded sound with the Wave 3 mic connection. I use an electric fan 2M away for my ventilation, and window-type air-condition creates the similar noise - this is why I still need to denoise my videos. In the end, using my Wave 3 with my camera had the best result than the ECM-W2BT. In my conclusion at this time, a powered mic with gain control has better results. I will check this with my ZV-1 next.
Thanks for sharing your detailed set up! I think you're right, the lack of fine control over the gain settings for the ECM-W2BT makes it extremely hard to use under certain specific conditions, much like you described. I think in your specific case, you may benefit from a slightly different audio set up. If you require a fan to be on while recording, using a mic that has a super directional pick up pattern (typically referred to as a super-cardioid polar pattern usually found in shotgun style mics) could help with external noise. A mic like that will reject noise from the sides. As such, with the right mic placement in relationship to you and the fan, it could help mitigate unwanted noise.
I'm actually planning a video demonstrating this so keep an eye out for it!
Can't believe this is unprocessed, I thought for sure this was after noise reduction. I'm also using sony zve10, but build-in mic but the background noise is so loud even after noise reduction, almost covers my voice 😂 I'm buying a new mic after watching this. Thank you so much for this video!
Thanks for your comment! Glad my video was helpful! With regards to my unprocessed audio, I record the majority of my videos in my recording studio for my professional voiceover work. So my space isn't typical with regards to room noise.
Thanks for making this video - well done! I have a Sony A7R5 and A7Siii with a Sennheiser AVX.
What is the best setup for Sony A6400 with Rode videomic NTG? Specifically for outdoor self vlogging.
Each and every of your videos is absolutely awesome - never found such precise pieces of information in any other video here on youtube - thanks for your great work!
Thanks David! I really appreciate such kind words!
Wow, greatest example! Thank you for this impressiv comparison. I definitely go for B! In my online-lessions in school and teacher-education, I’m always pointing to the importance of clear, human sounding audio.
I have sony alpha 6600 and scarlet focusritte 2i2 4th and shure sm7dB. My camera mic is on 3 and shure throught focusrite is automatic. But still have hissing nosie and i tryed ewerithing but still have this hissing sound..
I'm working with a sony alpa 7c with the rode NTG Videomic.. i had some issues with the noise but now i'm all fixed. Thank you very much!
Oh my gosh, I've been doing it wrong. Grrrr! I struggle with sound, but I won't for the next videos as I will start applying everything that I learned from you "professor". Thank you.... again...
Sounds great lol! Can wait to hear your next video!
Hello! I have a Sony Zv1 and a rode NTG. The input prongs on the wire has 3 black rings… is this the proper input for the Zv1 or should their only be 2?
Also, why not turn the camera pre amp to 1 instead of 4 to have the mic to all of the work instead of most of the work? Thanks
Good concise video for sure. I have the ZV-E10 and Nikon Z6ii. Both DO NOT allow you to accept line level audio and you're stuck with using their mic. pre-amps to some degree. My Fuji X-S10 allowed me to select mic or line level. I think all Fuji's do. This allowed me to use a quality external recorder, pre-amps and microphone and send the audio line out to the Fuji as line input to the mic jack. This also gave me baked in 48k/24bit audio. With the Sony you're stuck with 48k/16 bit and NO ONE wants 16 bit anymore. Have you found any way to get better than 16 bit audio onto your video recordings on this camera? I'm seriously thinking of selling this and going back to Fuji just for the better audio.
This is the video I was looking for. However, my mic don’t have any gain adjustment (Røde video mic, the one with the high pass filter and the battery) My audio sounds extremely bad and tinny I’ve tried adjusting the gain on the camera but it doesn’t do anything. Do you know if I might be doing something wrong?
Hey there! Thanks for your comment! I checked out your last video and I thought it sounded great! If you're still having issues, what camera are you using? There may be some audio setting that could be turned on (or off) to help get clearer audio. For example, if you audio sounds tinny, check to see if your camera has some kind of Wind Reduction enabled. Some cameras have this feature for their built in mics and some for external mics, but either way, they typically cut a lot of the lower end bass frequencies.
Otherwise, if you're mic doesn't have any gain adjustment, getting it physically closer to you can also help. Even like an 11" Magic Arm that has a cold shoe mount when placed on your camera can help get your mic much closer to you. I've seen these for ~$20.
@@WayneRECs Thanks for the response! I'm using the same camera as you, the ZV-E10 (it's currently getting a repair because it wasn't turning on) but this also happened with my nikon, Maybe I just got a faulty mic? Also thanks for the feed back, I was actually Just recording With my Iphone because I couldn't fix my camera. And for the voice over segments I'm using a $30 USB mic from amazon (I really need a new one)
I can hear it in this video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Glad it helped! Thanks for your comment!
So I record video on my iPhone using the native camera app. My last video series on my channel I used the rode wireless go, I thought it sounded ok as long as the mic was next to my mouth. I recently bought the rode video mic ntg, plan on seeing how that sounds with my iPhone 13 pro max soon. Appreciate the tips!
Awesome Rosh! The VideoMic NTG should sound great with your iPhone! And the fact it has a physical gain knob will really help in dialing in the right level!
I have an A7iii and a Rode mic pro, deffo needs setting up both location and hardwear
Great combo!
GREAT Tipe&Tricks on the most challenging thing in video production - good audio!!!
Thanks so much for your Comment! Audio can be super tricky for those just getting into it! Hope my videos help some folks out there!
Great advice, Im using a Sony a6400, with a Rode VideoMicro, so I can't adjust my mic as far as I can see.
Hey Andy! Thanks for your comment! If you're using a RODE VideoMicro, then yes, the only level adjustment you have would in in your camera. However, you can still do a few things to improve your audio! The first would be to physically get your mic closer to you. By using something like a boom mic stand and a longer 3.5mm cable (or 3.5mm extension cable), you can take your mic off your camera (if that's where it's currently located) and boom it over head just out of frame. You may need to adjust your shot framing to position your head a little closer to the top of the frame, but this repositioning of a mic has the potential for a better overall sound. Especially with talking head videos where the equipment is static. Hope this helps!
@@WayneRECs Thanks for the advice, I did get that from watching your video and my new lead just arrived today. ;-) So thanks again and keep up the great work. :-)
@@WayneRECs Thanks for this comment. Really helpful!
I have a Canon 850D with a Sennheiser MKE 400 and will use the most to record marching musicians (marching band/drum & bugle corps style corps)
I have canon M50 and rode videomicro. Just those two is not working well. It works if I use long cabel and take videomicro near. I have been hapy owner of zoom h1n one year. Still learning but next level results every time when using it. Found your chanel today. I like it🔥. External recording, posibilities with that is intresting, if you plann furure videos. 👍🏼
Thanks for the suggestion! I do have some videos planned featuring external recorders and the benefits that they can bring to the creation process!
I had a beeping-buzzing sound (constant), any suggestions?
Hi, thanks for your content. I am using Sony a7iii and Rode Videomic Pro
You saved my day 🫶 Just got my lavalier and when connected to my ZV-1, I had terrible noise - Then I discovered the mic recording level setting inside the camera was set on 25. I lowered it down to 4 and it sounds almost perfect ❤ Thanks a lot!
This was exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot!!
Hi Wayne. I don't really know a lot about this stuff but you're video was really good. We've just purchased the ZV-E10 with the Rode VideoMic Go II. However unless I'm missing something, there are no controls on the mic itself, like gain control. Any specific advice for this mic setup? I've been connecting directly into the Camera using the TRS 3.5mm. Any thoughts?
Hey Beren! The RODE Videomic GO II is designed for ease of use with cameras. While there are advance functionalities when you connect the mic to your computer via USB, if you're using your VM GO II plugged directly into your camera (ZV-E10) via the 3.5mm cable, the only real adjustment you'll need to set is the Audio Record Level in the ZV-E10.
Subsequently, the ways you can improve the sound of this particular setup is to get the mic as close as you can to your subject. For example, if you have the mic mounted in the hot shoe of the camera and you're vlogging, the distance between you and the mic is probably ok. But if your camera is further than an arm's length away, consider using a separate mic stand/ boom arm and 3.5mm extension cable and get the mic off the camera and closer to the subject. This enables you to lower the audio record level resulting in a cleaner recording.
You could also consider recording your audio with the VM GO II separately from your camera using a tablet or smartphone or computer via it's usb output and then sync'ing the audio recording in post. I've found that using the mic as a usb mic and doing a separate digital recording can sound cleaner than relying on the ZV-E10's mic input.
@@WayneRECs Thank you so much. This is really really helpful.
Great video. HOwever, as a newbie (beginner) to cameras, it would have been nice if you could have showed us where to go in the menu.....but I'll look. ♥
Hi, thanks for your comment! I would have shown the menu navigation but they are all a little different depending on the camera you have. Additionally, sometimes they are "hidden" and only accessible if you enable "PRO" mode or something similar in your camera's menu settings. Let me know if you still have trouble finding the right setting and tell me what camera you're using and I'll see if I can point you in the right direction.
Ultra Like!. Weird thing that in a lot of videos, there was told opposite. That Mic level should be set as minimun as could. But camera level should be higher cause it will help external mic to process audio sound.. But doing that i was experiencing exact thingy that you've shown - The noise, that prompted me to put volume to minimum at the post... Thx Mate, god bless !
This is what I've found on RODE's website: "When connecting the Wireless GO II receiver (RX) to a camera or audio recorder using a 3.5mm connection, it's a good place to start with the Wireless GO II RX is set to maximum gain (0dB) then adjust the recording level on the connected device by gradually reducing it until you reach an average of -12 dB on the device's audio metering. This careful adjustment will help optimize the recording volume." I'm quite confused.
@@doisongcanada O_o me as well...
Interesting. I was wondering about this since I just got the Sony ECM-W2BT wireless the other day, and I had Sony ZV-1 audio set to my usual level 23 with my Sony lavalier mic. This is what I was doing usually, and would denoise the audio in post-production. Now that I have a microphone that is self-powered, I will take your advice and see if it helps reduce the background noise. - but does this apply to the ECM-W2BT, or more for like a shotgun mic? In the last almost 2 years of learning to do better online learning content, audio quality should be prioritized more than video quality. I agree that it's better to watch something that has a good audio but terrible video quality, than something that has good video but terrible audio. I don't have an audio-treated area. Good job. Learning stuff from you.
Thanks for your comment! Glad you found my video helpful! This would only apply to the Sony ECM-W2BT under certain conditions. If you're using it with a non-Sony camera and running a 3.5mm cable from the Receiver's output jack (set to Analog) to your camera's input jack, then yes, in theory having the setting on the mic at ATT of 0db would be your best option and then set your camera's record level at the lowest setting.
However, if you're using the ECM-W2BT with a compatible Sony camera via the MI Shoe, then your Audio Rec Level on your Sony camera may be greyed out. This effectively means your only form of control is the ATT switch on the Transmitter.
I'm actually planning another video on the ECM-W2BT with my ZV-E10 to air some of the (IMO) shortcomings with the unit. But that being said, it seems Sony has a specific use case and targeted user base for this mic (which might not be me specifically).
Either way, kudos to you for understanding the value of good audio! So glad you found my video!
The problem with Sony cameras is that you cannot select line level or mic level for the microphone port. I can do this with my Fuji camera and I set it to line level and I use a high-quality external Sound Source and send line out to my camera when I record and I get great audio baked into it
Thanks! What about if I am using a mic that has no gain level controls for example the Rode compact micro mic?
Then you only need to worry about your camera's recording level. However, depending on your use case, you can experiment with mic placement to improve your audio. Most people will mount a videomicro on top of their camera in the hot shoe. But if your camera is on a tripod, think about mounting your mic on a boom stand and running a longer cable to you camera. Anytime you can position a mic closer to the sound source, the lower you can set your camera's recording level (which can produce a cleaner recording)
@@WayneRECs Thank you so much!
Thanks for your info. I have a Canon M50 mark II and a BOYA M1 wired microphone, the problem is the mic doesn't have any gain control and I can only set it in the camera settings. What is the most optimal option ?
Thanks for your comment and question! If you're referring to the BOYA BY-M1 lav, there isn't a whole lot you can do. I would set your M50's record level only as high as you need to get a good signal (between -12db to -6db). The other things you can try are to experiment with your mic placement with the understanding that anytime you can get closer to your mouth, generally that's better. In post, you can use some EQ (a basic high pass filter around 80 Hz to 150 Hz depending on your voice) to help take out lower frequencies that aren't in your vocal range.
The reality is that in some cases, if we need to prioritize our equipment budget, we often have to compromise on audio quality and/or features. But the important thing to remember, is that you can always upgrade gear later and simply getting a mic and learning about audio is the first step in the right direction. Hope this helps!
@@WayneRECs It was very helpful 🙏🙏🙏🌹 Thank you very much
Loved this video
I’ve been slapping random audios on my videos and never really paid too much attention to audio and notice when I do try it’s not always consistent for these same reasons you explained. Thank you 🙏🏼 instant sub
Shooting on the Canon R5C and Rode NTG same as yours
I have a Sony Zv-e10 and an Rode Ntg4+. I just can’t set up both to work together. Help!🙏
Question for you! When should one use a pencil condenser mic? If I want to capture ambient noise when I'm traveling rather than capture my voice, should I be using a pencil condenser mic? Thanks!
Hi! Pencil condensers mics are great if you want to record things like ambient sound or instruments and need a small form factor. Typically, in field recording, like nature ambience, 2 pencil mics that are a matched pair (meaning calibrated at the factory to sound identical to each other) are used to create stereo recordings (usually in an XY or AB stereo configuration). This requires 2 inputs as well as a stereo bar to adjust mic positioning and creates a stereo sound. But if you're on a budget and/or only have a single input, using 1 pencil mic to record a mono track is also a good place to start, depending on your end goal usage of that recording.
@@WayneRECs Whoa... that's next level. I'll have to start looking into it cause I'm curious now hahaha thank you
I use a Sony a6400 and the Hollyland M1 Lark1 wireless microphones. Unfortunately, I can’t LISTEN to the recording while interviewing because the mic is occupying the only port available to the camera. How do I fix this? Because my professor demands that we listen as we are recording. Like…how?
I just Now ordered the sennheiser mke 600 before i used the extend camera mirophone i hope for best :) with this mic need to Do same settings ? I have too the sony sve 10
Hi Chris! Thanks for your comment! As the MKE 600 has no gain adjustments, if you're plugging it into your ZV-E10, you should start at the lowest Rec Level setting and then go up from there until you get the desired sound.
I have the same setup. The NTG is picking up no audio at all. Any thoughts?
Hi Wayne! Thanks for this video! I use the Fujifilm XS10 along with the Rode Videomicro. I’m at -4.5 db - haven’t quite hit the sweet spot. Should I be keeping the yellow reaching at about -20, or is it supposed to be closer to zero? That part confuses me….
Hey Tom! I generally aim to get my record levels peaking between -12db to -6db. This ensures that there is head room in case of an unexpected loud sound, that hopefully the mic won't clip. I'd then make up any gain in post by boosting the audio by a few db if needed. With a set up like a Videomicro that has no gain control, you can really just focus on your camera setting with that -12/-6 target range in mind.
@@WayneRECs Thanks, Wayne! You’re the man! 🤙🏼
Should I have my Sony camera level at 4 with a shotgun mic connected to a small mixer that is connected to the camera?
Hi Joon! Thanks for your question! I think it really depends on what brand and model all of your gear is and what produces the cleanest sound. Generally speaking, a mixer should output a cleaner signal than a camera's preamp, so I'd generally advise to set your mixer output on the higher side and your Sony record level on the lower side. Depending on your specific gear, it may take a little trial and error to see what works best for your setup.
@@WayneRECs thank you 🙏🏿! I just subscribe to your channel!
I use Canon 90d and Sennheiser mke 440
Im using a Sony a7s3 and DJI Mic set up with a shure mic lav - still don't fully understand recover gain, audio rec level, and transmitter gain relationship.
How about the Zoom F1 where can adjust the microphone, headphone output and camera input level? If i set the headphone output to 100% it clipps in the camera
Sony ZV E10 with a condenser mic on an arm connected directly to the camera. My mic doesn’t have the means to adjust from the mic. Am I to understand, turning the rec level on the cameras mic is all there is? Is there no way to check levels short of recording and playing back? Is there no external mic settings,
My Boya MM1 is attached to my Zv1 and It picked up alot of background noises for my cooking videos 😢. I think I set the audio rec level too high? Current setting is at 27.
A6400 + Rode VideoMic NTG. Thanks for this man this was helpful!!
What about XLR mics on Sony handles? This method doesn't apply then, right?
For field training sessions I use DJI Osmo Action paired with RODE Wireless Go, but the usual control environment videos are made with Canon R5+RODE VNTG. The VNTG has a strange issue though... every now and then it will not power up when the R5 starts recording. That's really frustrating as it has already ruined a few of my recorded episodes. My solution was to buy a VideoMic GO II because it does not use a battery. I like it quite a bit, but it is not as advanced as the VNTG (no gain control, dual channels, etc.). It's a shame, but I will be selling it if the VMII proves good enough, I've just tested it today. By the way that's how I came accross your channel, by researching info on the VideoMic Go II 🙂
Hi Vato! Thanks for your comment! Your hit or miss VNTG powering on sounds frustrating! TBH, that's one of the benefits of the VMGOII, that it doesn't have an internal battery to charge and is plug and go. Depending on the recording situation, sometimes it can be better to have reliability over features. This can be especially tough for solo content creators who may not even realize there was an issue during a shoot until they dump the footage and start editing!
Let me know how the VMGOII works out for you!
Thank you for making this video! I have been looking at ways to improve my audio for my YT videos.
Hey Dewey! Thanks for your comment! Glad it was helpful!
Hi, I use Sony EZV10 as weil. But it seems like the Camera does not Connect with my RODE Video Micro 2 since there is NO Adio Sound at all when I set the Camera Audio to Level 4. maybe you can help me out ?
Hello friend, a question, when I am recording a scene with my Sony ZVE10 camera, the camera, I don't know why it records sounds that are very far from the place and when editing they are heard loudly.
For example, he records the sounds that my neighbor makes and they are sounds that are difficult to hear with the ear but the camera does hear them, do you know a configuration so that the camera does not record external sounds so far away from the recording location? I would greatly appreciate your help.
Hi Wayne, if i set 4/14 as you, so my audio is very quietly. I have same zv-e10 and ntg. What do you think about it? Thank you.
Thank you Wayne, your video really helped me a lot! You did a great job explaining it!
Hi , ty for vide
What u think ig i connect to my sony zv e10
What will be the best audio lvl ön my camera ? Ty for the ansverr :)
Hey Chris! As I said in my other reply, you'll have to experiment with your specific set up in your specific recording environment. If you're using the ZV=E10 & MKE 600, you'll only really have ability to adjust the levels at the ZV-E10.
For sony zv-e10 ist the sennheiser mke 600 or the rode ntg better ? I want to use mostly inside with direkt to camera with 3,5 MM
Well, as I don't possess 2 of these 3 pieces of equipment, I can't give you a definitive comparison, but from my experience, the RODE Videomic NTG has more features (control) over the MKE 600, specifically a gain dial at the rear of the mic (NTG). That feature alone as the potential to let you dial in your mic and camera settings to get the best sound. If you were going into plug them into a different device (with better preamps/inputs), either would sound great. But the ZV-E10 is a little noisy on the mic input gain, so being able to have adjustment ability at the mic can be beneficial.
I have a rode microvideo which doesn’t have built in level. Should I set the camera level to 14 or auto? Is this mic in general basically super average because of that?
Wayne, I have an issue with my Sony ZVE10 Sound setup ... where and how can I reach you to help ?
I have the same camera, just bought a rode microphone and it's not simple at first. Thanks to these guys for making these videos 👌
I tried shooting with a clip-on microphone that is not adjustable and there's just no audio input. I tried with two different mics and they didn't work. Will have yo try something different
Can you share the exact models of mics and your camera? That would be helpful in determining what the issue could be.
@@WayneRECs
Camera: Sony ZV-EV10
Mics:
Gyvzala Lavalier
AGPTEK Lavalier
They're two very basic and generic clip-on mics, idk if anyone will be familiar with them but there's that. Thanks in advance!
I'd first check the connectors of your two lav mics and ensure they are TRS connectors (3.5mm plugs with 2 black rings). The ZV-E10's mic input only accepts TRS mics, so if your lavs are TRRS (3 black rings) then the proper connections aren't being made.
@@WayneRECs turns out, I have jack adapters. I just tried what you said, and it worked! You nailed it! You earned yourself a loyal subscriber, thank you 🙏🏻
Sony ZV e10 with Deity RX wireless mic
I have a Sony ZV1 using a rode wireless mic. I am having a problem where no matter how low the mic is I am picking up the sound from it rubbing against my body when clipped on and it's ruining my footage. Any suggestions??
I have no lav it's just the rode square clipped on my pants
A6600 and Rode Video Mic NTG.
Is there are a reason why the audio is coming out only on one side? Can I fix this through the camera rather than in post? Haven’t found anything online…
Hey David! It could be a few different reasons. First check to see if the Safety Track is enabled on your VideoMic NTG. If the led below the icon that looks like 2 bars is illuminated, press the button directly below it to cycle through all the settings until it's off. With the Safety Track enable, the L audio channel in your camera will be recorded louder than the R channel which would make it seem like it's only on one side.
If that doesn't solve it, check your cable between your mic and your camera. A faulty cable could only send 1 of the channels. Are you using the cable that came with your VideoMic NTG?
@@WayneRECs Hey Wayne, thanks for the response! I am using the original cord but that wasn’t it. Tried a different mic, which worked, so definitely the NTG. Tried updating the firmware but that didn’t work so gonna have to work with support after holiday. Thanks again for the response. Appreciate it!
Hi :)
I am using the Sony A6300 with the ECM-GZ1M gunzoom-microphone, which is connected via the MI shoe. Apparently the audio rec level setting is disabled as long as it is connected and Sony states that you can only adjust the audio rec level only on the microphone itself. The problem is that the GZ1M doesn't have a control panel whatsoever, so it's completely automatic. My problem with this is the incredibly loud noise in rooms which is clearly caused by a way too high level.
Is there a workaround to this to be able to adjust the audio rec level manually regardless of the MI shoe?
Thanks for the video btw🙏
Thanks for your question! While the Sony MI shoe is a great cable free idea, Sony's implementation is super limiting. Unfortunately, based on the combination of mic and camera that you have, to my knowledge there is no workaround to adjust the gain input. If you had something like the Sony ECM-B1M, that has the physical functionality you're looking for but the GZ1M doesn't. If the GZ1M had a 3.5mm output, that would be a workaround, but as it only connects via the MI shoe, I think you're stuck. It's unfortunate, as the MI shoe is a great concept, but Sony's inconsistent implementation of it is super frustrating.
Let the microphone do what its supposed to do = good advice!
I have a Hyperx using my sony ev 10. When I turn the camera audio to 1 or 4 , rather my external mic is set to 0 gain or max i can barley hear a playback. Although if i set the camera to 17-20 there is a slight static but i can hear. Does anyone have this issue?
this was great. thank you for keeping the vid under 5 min.
What if i use a laptop to record?
Thank you so much for this king!
+Wayne RECs Does the ZV E10 have phantom power? I want to buy the Rode NTG4 which needs phantom power. I am hoping to just buy an XLR to 3.5mm adaptor and go directly into the ZV E110 for streaming.
Hey Trent! Unfortunately, the ZV-E10 doesn't provide 48v Phantom Power. If you're planning on streaming (from indoors) you could get a USB audio interface for your NTG4 and then be sure to route that audio to your stream.
@@WayneRECs Perfect, thank you very much!
@@WayneRECs Subbed!
Incredibly helpful
With your set up, is -3 your max audio level peaking?
Hey Joon! These days I typically aim for a peak level between -12db to -6db though currently, I often record in 32-bit float so as to not have to worry about setting levels.
@@WayneRECs thank you 🙏🏿
UA-cam seems to remove the noise of bad settings. I couldn't hear any difference.
Use a headphone, there is a huge difference
You can hear a slight "hissss" sound. Nothing extremely bad.
Great. Thank you
Good to know, thx
Definitely a key point and the foundation to getting the best recording!
Sony ZV E-10 and Rodemic Go II
This what i needed thanks
iPhone 13 and DJI Mic 2
Sony alpha 6100 4k Mirrorless camera with a boys MM1 microphone
Canon EOS R, and the Røde NTG :)
A7iii with Rode videomic NTG
great video thanks
So I have the Movo VXR10 Universal Video Microphone and it sounds TERRIBLE! I’m gonna try to adjust the sound settings again but I think this microphone is terrible for this camera.
Sony ZV-E1 and a Sennheiser ew G4 mic and no audio 😢
Fx30 with rode video mic
Im using FX30 with Rode NTG but cant get it to work properly. Do you have any tips
Bravo!!!
using my airpods, and i can't tell any difference as well. Sounds exactly the same.
Zve10 and rode rycote
Sony a6600 & Rode Go 2 wireless
Awesome! Sounds like a good combo!
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at video, thanks
Sony 4k video camcorder
broo i cant hear a fuking diffrence ! LOL
Lol!!! Thot I'm the only one and I'm using earpieces
y is this so engaging.. body language or what.
what about repurposing your content and share it on my Instagram account ?