It's Late (with Freddy on Fire in the Choruses) Sheer Heart Attack (the song) Brighton Rock Stone Cold Crazy Flick of the Wrist Now I'm Here Get Down, Make Love Under Pressure Innuendo (the song) (Tie Your Mother Down) 10 Best heavy songs.
Father To Son, Brighton Rock, Now I'm Here, Flick of the Wrist, It's Late, If You Can't Beat Em, Dragon Attack, Rock It (Prime Jive), Hang On In There, Innuendo, I Can't Live Without You.
I absolutely love "The Prophet's Song" but I have to agree that it needed to be trimmed down. Also, "Was It All Worth It" just might be my favorite 80s Queen song.
Trim down the intro and trim down the middle part and then "The Prophet's song" could be Queen's greatest song that should've been all over FM radio in the 70's.
Loved the last couple of episodes. Although I am fond of most of the picks, I wouldn’t argue with most of their listings here. I would add Great King Rat and Brighton Rock (particularly Roger’s drumming) on the best list. I keep banging the drum of the fast and live version of We Will Rock You. Also, listen to the 12” extended version of Hammer To Fall for a more a more rounded and shredding guitar solo… and the cutting-room floor oddity, Silver Salmon, which is Black Sabbath heavy (it can be found on UA-cam).
Great show Scott. I think about this all the time. Dream Theater - The Spirit Carries On. Neal Morse - Broken Sky/ Long Day Rival Sons - Jordan Big Big Train - Love is the Light Vince Gill - Go Rest high on the Mountain Home Free - How Great Thou are
My Top 10 Heavy Queen songs are 1. Procession/Father To Son. 2. Liar. 3. Great King Rat. 4. March Of The Black Queen. 5. Stone Cold Crazy. 6. Modern Times Rock & Roll. 7. Ogre Battle 8. Son & Daughter. 9. We Will Rock You(Fast version) 10. Sheer Heart Attack. Honorable Mentions-1. Dragon Attack. 2. The Prophet Song.
All Martin's "worst" picks would be ranked pretty high at my list except his no. 1. I Want It All and One Vision - love them a lot. I don't understand the dislike for I Want It All.
Synthesizer in 'Hammer to Fall?' I love that song. I listen to it all of the time. I've never heard a synth. And Martin, 'I'm in Love With My Car' is a MASTERPIECE.
Hi Pete, Stone Cild Crazy is great, but Fireball from Deep Purple can be seen as the first Thrash/Speed Metal song. Maybe even the one year earlier Speed King. Just my opinion, that’s all.
Best: The March of the Black Queen Death on Two Legs Headlong Hammer to Fall Dragon Attack Princes of the Universe Fat Bottomed Girls Was It All Worth It Keep Yourself Alive Ogre Battle Great King Rat Modern Times Rock and Roll Liar Sheer Heart Attack Stone Cold Crazy Can't think of many poor ones, although I don't love The Prophet's Song.
Best 10: 1.) Sheer Heart Attack 2.) Princes Of The Universe 3.) Hammer To Fall 4.) The Hero 5.) Death On Two Legs 6.) Stone Cold Crazy 7.) Ogre Battle 8.) The Hitman 9.) Tear It Up 10.) Brighton Rock Worst 10: NONE
Top 10 Queen heavy tunes: 10. I'm in love with my car 9. Sheer Heart Attack 8. Dead on time 7. If you can't beat them 6. Tie your Mother down 5. Let me entertain you 4. Stone Cold Crazy 3. White Man 2. Death on two legs 1. The Prophet's Song
Doing this exercise before watching the video, here are my picks 10 favorites: Great King Rat, Liar, Ogre Battle, March of the Black Queen, Stone Cold Crazy, The Prophet’s Song, Sheer Heart Attack, Fight from the Inside, It’s Late, and Dead on Time. I couldn’t decide if “The Show Must Go On” is heavy enough to make the list, but if it is then it definitely gets in, probably over Sheer Heart Attack. And while I’m sure both of these guys are going to have “Gimme the Prize” on their “worst” lists, that’s probably my favorite heavy Queen track from the 80’s; it just missed the cut. 10 least favorites: Sweet Lady, White Man, If You Can’t Beat Them, Need Your Loving Tonight, Rock It (Prime Jive), Coming Soon, Tear It Up, Hammer to Fall, Princes of the Universe, and Don’t Lose Your Head. There’s probably some track on the Miracle I’m forgetting that could go on this list (besides “I Want It All” which is ok), but TBH that’s the Queen album I remember the least and the only other one besides Hot Space that I don’t own. Now time to see what the guys have to say. Edit: Yep, not too many surprises, other than maybe the complete absence of The Game on either end. And The Hero, because I wasn’t even thinking about Flash. Kashoggi’s Ship was a good pick for the bad side, too; I’d totally forgotten about that one. Since y’all were talking about bands that did both goofy and heavy, I think Van Halen absolutely hits both ends. I mean, come on…Bottoms Up, Hot for Teacher, One Foot Out the Door, Happy Trails, Big Bad Bill, Inside? Those guys did plenty of goofing around, especially in Dave’s era.
I saw them as a 13 year old kid in Houston touring the Game I think, they opened with sheer heart attack, it was very powerful, could have been judas priest, it was awesome.
I was surprised that there was no mention of Father To Son. That riff after the "take it sonny hold it high" still gives me goosebumps. Prophets song is a must choice. good call.
I mainly like the early hard rock songs of Queen on their early albums of the 1970's and early 1980's but the latter stuff while I don't hate them still I don't hate them but I do like Another one Bites the Dust and Flash Gordon however have a wonderful weekend Pete and Martin.🎶🎶🎤🎸🎸🎹🥁🎶🎶
The first Queen album was Brilliant at least with our local rock n rollers At the time we were listening to Sabbath Blue Oyster Cult Aerosmith But the first Queen was Hard Rocking with amazing vocals A perfect album IMHOThe best
Queen have been my favorite band since 1980. I can't decide best and worst,as the only songs I really don't like by them are; Friends WIll Be Friends,Pain Is So Close To Pleasure,One Year Of Love and Cool Cat(though i would rather hear Cool Cat than the other three I mentioned) But as for best of the heavy ones,the one that first came to mind is White Man.
Prophet song and death on 2 legs are my 2 all time favorites, also father to son , liar, dragon attack, stone cold, and Tie or mother down , are top of the list
They were at their best back in their early "HEAVY" days. Stone Cold Crazy Liar Son and Daughter Father to Son Sheer Heart Attack Prophet Song Death on two legs It's Late Dead on Time Dragon Attack Rock It Tear it Up Coming Soon Dancer Was it All Worth It Princes of the Universe Innuendo
Slightly off topic. When Freddie died, Queen died for me, not disrespect for Paul Rogers and Ahem Adam Lambert, but I wish Brian & Roger would have toured on a smaller venue setup doing only the songs they sang on throughout the bands back catalogue, one for the die hard fans. Most of my favourite Queen songs are the ones they sang on, so maybe I'm biased?
Top Ten in no particular order - Stone Cold Crazy, Ogre Battle, It's Late, Brighton Rock, Father to Son, Liar, Great King Rat, Tie Your Mother Down, Sweet Lady and I'm in Love with My Car - as my favorite heavy rockers
I've never really liked Tie Your Mother Down either and I think it was the one Queen song that heavy bands decided to cover because vocally and musically it's not too complicated
I never understood why "Sheer Heart Attack" was put on the NOTW album. Did they want to prove they could also make a "punk" song? It sounds like a garage recording from 1974. But then again, every Queen album is basically a collection of oddities and novelty songs (of the highest caliber, mind you). They could pull it off like no other band.
I dont see how Hammer to fall and Tie your mother down can be on the worst list. Along with Its Late, stone cold crazy, now im here . They are in my top 5
I've had a soft spot for early Queen [up to 'One Vision] and I find it interesting that Roger Taylor said he initially considered Queen as a heavy-metal band. In the mid-70s they were ragged on as aping Led Zeppelin....... Anyway, I dig a few of their heavy numbers but the one that always gets me is the "Live Killers" version of "We Will Rock You," the opener not the "boof-boof-bap" popular version. Played as a straight 3-piece, it slams and whams and when Brian takes a solo, it gives me the chills how the rhythm guitar drops out and there's that space.
"In the mid-70s they were ragged on as aping Led Zeppelin......." This very thing has always fascinated me. Admittedly, I was not around to experience any of this in real time; I got into both Queen and Led Zeppelin back in the '90s (1992 and 1994 respectively), and it wasn't until around the beginning of the 2000s (by which time I had absorbed both catalogues in full or near full) that I began to see many people (including critics) comparing Queen to Led Zeppelin, as if they were sound-alike bands. Even Pete and Martin did an episode some time back (this band is that band on steroids... something like that) wherein Martin considered Queen as 'Led Zeppelin on steroids.' I had a hard time understanding the comparison back then, and now after having spent three decades with (and loving) the output of both bands, I have an even harder time understanding it; I never could see it. Queen's debut? Zeppelin-like? Maybe a little. Second album? Not really. After that, outside of maybe a few songs, I don't hear any Zeppelin. As a huge fan of these two, I think comparing the two does a major disservice to both bands. Both were amazingly talented, and displayed a healthy eclecticism in their musical endeavors, but were coming at it from entirely different angles. Zeppelin seemed the earthier, roots-based band; they were coming at things from a bluesy and folky aesthetic. Even with the other influences that popped up in their music (including the psychedelic touches), the earthy undercurrent was always present. By contrast, Queen came more at things from classical (I think Freddie Mercury had some classical piano training - you could hear it in both his writing and his piano playing), music hall, Broadway, etc. They were not so bluesy or roots-based, even though they touched upon these things along the way. Both could churn out the rockers and mix them with other styles, but the flavors (for lack of a better term) were very different. In the end, I can't see the comparisons - with no disrespect intended toward Martin, and other critics who've pushed this - as anything beyond superficial. By the way, I love reading your comments (whenever they appear.) They are well-written, thoughtful, articulate and insightful. I should also mention that the comment you left on the 'Is US Progressive Rock Legit?' episode was the one that hit the nail square on the head - at the very least, it was the one that aligned most with my own thoughts on the matter. All the best.
@@knightvisioniixv I absolutely agree with you on this. I first came across the "Queen as Zeppelin imitators" in 1980 in an article in the NME encyclopedia of rock from 1977. In the same article, they referred to Queen as an "ersatz Led Zeppelin" that kept onr foot in the Glam-rock" bag and they also referred to Cockney Rebel as doing the same to David Bowie. I couldn't see either and more than 40 years on, I still can't. There are obvious similarities with Led Zeppelin such as being 3-pieces with a vocalist and a keyboardist that played sometime-heavy rock and were quite diverse, but that could equally apply to Black Sabbath {they did utilize keyboards at one point} and Van Halen {although I'll admit, that's a stretch}.
I think these are very interesting song choices for being the worst heavy Queen tracks. Interesting points! I think one of the reasons Queen never went back to riff oriented heavy songs like in their first 5 album "prog/art rock" era is because of how the songwriting evolved in the band. "The Prophet's Song" and "March Of The Black Queen" are my favorite heavy Queen songs.
White Man sounds like a rip or an extension of The Prophet Song. Same kind of riff. And Dead on Time sounds like Keep Yourself Alive Part 2. And i totally forgot about The Hero... (Martin stole the words right out of my mouth) The Hero is the last time Queen sounded like Queen...like it was their "last hurrah". Also Let Me Entertain You and Fight From The Inside i forgot to add to add to my list. Fight and Get Down Make Love is the beginning of Queen getting "Funky"
Tie Your Mother Down is the one that I thought of immediatly for a worst heavy Queen song. I never understood why people raved about it. Why so many people covered it alludes me as well. I guess it was an easier song to play and they were Queen fans so they wanted to include something from Queen in their sets? My all-time favorite heavy Queen song is Dragon Attack. I was hooked from the first time I heard that riff! Now that's a song that should have gotten more love!
Agree about “Loser in the End.” The inevitable “Roger song” is always either my favorite, or most hated, song on every album. I’ve tried for years to force myself to like “Loser in the End” because I want to say Queen II is a perfect album, but I can’t quite get there. Seems shoehorned in to me.
Hammer to Fall is about the only 80s Queen heavy song I like, although I admit I prefer the headbangers mix of it. At least on The Works they were still trying new sounds, by the next album they hit what all long lasting bands hit, the generic "our band sound" syndrome.
Wow, I would have totally had it's late off News of the world up near the top of best heavy tunes, as well as now I'm here of sheer heart attack, and seven seas of rhye off of Queen 2
I get the impression they came up with a compromise regarding Brian‘s “heavy metal“ music. Freddie clearly lost interest in hard rock, but would play along as long as it was “fun“, rather than a brooding, heavy metal song. The results certainly weren’t great, but not terrible.
I was with you until you got to One Vision... That's an awesome riff and song! Oh and Princes of the Universe is one of my favorite Queen songs of a time, so to each their own! The Works and the Miracle are both major lowpoints for Queen, with all that disgusting 80's synthesizer noodling basically destroying every song on those albums... Which is ironic considering this was a band that once prided themselves in not using synthesizers!! (On A Night At the Opera back cover it states proudly "No synthesizers!". Dead On Time is their most underrated balls out metal song imo... Man that song scorches! Funny trivia: The lightning strike at the end was actually real, which if true means even the Gods were jamming out when they recorded it to tape!
I like how you guys put in the 80s in the "worsts" as the 80s to me are so hard to evaluate positively as a Queen fan - the have token heavy songs and while do like most of them a lot, "Hammer to Fall" probably the most but they pale in comparison to the 70s
Father To Son....the middle section. Not a riff but what a heavy
monstrous jam. Love it.
My favourite heavy song by queen is Ogre Battle. Queen 2 is also probably my favourite album by them
Queen II was my alltime favorite album until I discovered A Wizard/A True Star by Todd Rundgren. Still love Queen II though.
It's Late (with Freddy on Fire in the Choruses)
Sheer Heart Attack (the song)
Brighton Rock
Stone Cold Crazy
Flick of the Wrist
Now I'm Here
Get Down, Make Love
Under Pressure
Innuendo (the song)
(Tie Your Mother Down)
10 Best heavy songs.
Under pressure,not a heavy song by queen standards,by the who and the doors standards absojutely
@NotGuilty2112 no it's not heavy,gets a bit loud in chorus,don't know why it wos mentioned in first place
Dead on time let me entertain you great king rat
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I had to choose 10 songs out of my head. A heavy song doesn't mean it must have the loudest guitars...
Love hero off Flash Gordon soundtrack also. Brilliant.
Father To Son, Brighton Rock, Now I'm Here, Flick of the Wrist, It's Late, If You Can't Beat Em, Dragon Attack, Rock It (Prime Jive), Hang On In There, Innuendo, I Can't Live Without You.
Freddie forgive them, for they know not what they say.
I love the idea of figuring out which bands have heavy songs and goofy songs. Seems like a great idea. Blue Oyster Cult and Alice Cooper come to mind.
You guys are great!
Pete, have a safe, fun HEALTHY vacation my friend! 👍💯
Always loved Sheer Heart Attack from News Of The World.
Favorite show of the week guys. Thanks so much 🙏 👍
I absolutely love "The Prophet's Song" but I have to agree that it needed to be trimmed down. Also, "Was It All Worth It" just might be my favorite 80s Queen song.
Thank you! Was It All Worth It is such a forgotten gem!
@@31-127 A great album closer!
Trim down the intro and trim down the middle part and then "The Prophet's song" could be Queen's greatest song that should've been all over FM radio in the 70's.
@@hardrockingtriviashow667 Agree. This song is so goddamn epic and heavy but it looses all steam when it gets to the middle part.
@@Land_Far_Away I wasn't sure about the middle part at first but "now I know".
Love the Headbangers mix of Hammer T Fall
Liar
Sheer Heart Attack
Gimme The Prize
Tear It Up
Can’t think of a bad one
Loved the last couple of episodes. Although I am fond of most of the picks, I wouldn’t argue with most of their listings here. I would add Great King Rat and Brighton Rock (particularly Roger’s drumming) on the best list. I keep banging the drum of the fast and live version of We Will Rock You. Also, listen to the 12” extended version of Hammer To Fall for a more a more rounded and shredding guitar solo… and the cutting-room floor oddity, Silver Salmon, which is Black Sabbath heavy (it can be found on UA-cam).
Ogre Battle, Brighton Rock, Liar
Love 70’s Queen!!! News of the World is one of my favorite albums of all time!!!
Great show Scott. I think about this all the time.
Dream Theater - The Spirit Carries On.
Neal Morse - Broken Sky/ Long Day
Rival Sons - Jordan
Big Big Train - Love is the Light
Vince Gill - Go Rest high on the Mountain
Home Free - How Great Thou are
Not a huge Queen fan but enjoyed this! Greetings from the Finger Lakes area, Rochester!
There are no bad heavy songs from Queen
Truth!
Right! I even love the simple big dumb chord songs.
My Top 10 Heavy Queen songs are 1. Procession/Father To Son. 2. Liar. 3. Great King Rat. 4. March Of The Black Queen. 5. Stone Cold Crazy. 6. Modern Times Rock & Roll. 7. Ogre Battle 8. Son & Daughter. 9. We Will Rock You(Fast version) 10. Sheer Heart Attack. Honorable Mentions-1. Dragon Attack. 2. The Prophet Song.
Dragon Attack is heavy???? I would never call it heavy
Brilliant choices. All gems.
Great Category!
All good points.... But live they are always amazing and heavy ❤
The reality of all of your observations is very harsh. But you are correct, Sirs.
Long live the Queen!
All Martin's "worst" picks would be ranked pretty high at my list except his no. 1. I Want It All and One Vision - love them a lot.
I don't understand the dislike for I Want It All.
Great show. Love the Queen talk. I felt certain that "Now I'm Here" would make both best of lists. Ah well, just shows how many good ones there are.
Synthesizer in 'Hammer to Fall?' I love that song. I listen to it all of the time. I've never heard a synth. And Martin, 'I'm in Love With My Car' is a MASTERPIECE.
The Finger Lake's are a national treasure! Spectacular in the fall.
I'm digging the Queen theme these two weeks. Thank you!
Great King Rat gets my tick of approval as a top heavy song by Queen. That first album.
Hi Pete, Stone Cild Crazy is great, but Fireball from Deep Purple can be seen as the first Thrash/Speed Metal song. Maybe even the one year earlier Speed King. Just my opinion, that’s all.
Very true.
Jazz is often overlooked as one of Queen's best albums. It's one of mine.
Mustafa is my favourite heavy track of theirs. It hits really hard and is just fun.
Show Must Go On & Innuendo
I can't live without you
The best two in the business. The words you guys use to describe music is priceless. Did you guys forget, Dragon Attack ?
Nope. Love it, but not nearly in the realm of being among their heaviest songs.
Best:
The March of the Black Queen
Death on Two Legs
Headlong
Hammer to Fall
Dragon Attack
Princes of the Universe
Fat Bottomed Girls
Was It All Worth It
Keep Yourself Alive
Ogre Battle
Great King Rat
Modern Times Rock and Roll
Liar
Sheer Heart Attack
Stone Cold Crazy
Can't think of many poor ones, although I don't love The Prophet's Song.
Makes you realize how the best Heavy songs just truly AWESOME are! Nobody was writing songs like Stone Cold, Liar, Ogre Battle at that period in time.
Queen is my all-time favourite band, I couldn't be objective on a list like this.
Best 10:
1.) Sheer Heart Attack
2.) Princes Of The Universe
3.) Hammer To Fall
4.) The Hero
5.) Death On Two Legs
6.) Stone Cold Crazy
7.) Ogre Battle
8.) The Hitman
9.) Tear It Up
10.) Brighton Rock
Worst 10:
NONE
I’ve often thought “Headlong” is a kind of 1990s homage to “Keep Yourself Alive.” The two songs are always linked for me.
Top 10 Queen heavy tunes:
10. I'm in love with my car
9. Sheer Heart Attack
8. Dead on time
7. If you can't beat them
6. Tie your Mother down
5. Let me entertain you
4. Stone Cold Crazy
3. White Man
2. Death on two legs
1. The Prophet's Song
Always loved TYMD. Played it many times with my cover bands.
Doing this exercise before watching the video, here are my picks
10 favorites: Great King Rat, Liar, Ogre Battle, March of the Black Queen, Stone Cold Crazy, The Prophet’s Song, Sheer Heart Attack, Fight from the Inside, It’s Late, and Dead on Time. I couldn’t decide if “The Show Must Go On” is heavy enough to make the list, but if it is then it definitely gets in, probably over Sheer Heart Attack. And while I’m sure both of these guys are going to have “Gimme the Prize” on their “worst” lists, that’s probably my favorite heavy Queen track from the 80’s; it just missed the cut.
10 least favorites: Sweet Lady, White Man, If You Can’t Beat Them, Need Your Loving Tonight, Rock It (Prime Jive), Coming Soon, Tear It Up, Hammer to Fall, Princes of the Universe, and Don’t Lose Your Head. There’s probably some track on the Miracle I’m forgetting that could go on this list (besides “I Want It All” which is ok), but TBH that’s the Queen album I remember the least and the only other one besides Hot Space that I don’t own.
Now time to see what the guys have to say.
Edit: Yep, not too many surprises, other than maybe the complete absence of The Game on either end. And The Hero, because I wasn’t even thinking about Flash. Kashoggi’s Ship was a good pick for the bad side, too; I’d totally forgotten about that one.
Since y’all were talking about bands that did both goofy and heavy, I think Van Halen absolutely hits both ends. I mean, come on…Bottoms Up, Hot for Teacher, One Foot Out the Door, Happy Trails, Big Bad Bill, Inside? Those guys did plenty of goofing around, especially in Dave’s era.
I saw them as a 13 year old kid in Houston touring the Game I think, they opened with sheer heart attack, it was very powerful, could have been judas priest, it was awesome.
Good choices! I’m sure they were considered, but It’s Late and Dragon Attack are two more upper-echelon heavy tracks.
The theme of show works with the Zappa catalog.
I was surprised that there was no mention of Father To Son. That riff after the "take it sonny hold it high" still gives me goosebumps. Prophets song is a must choice. good call.
I mainly like the early hard rock songs of Queen on their early albums of the 1970's and early 1980's but the latter stuff while I don't hate them still I don't
hate them but I do like Another one Bites the Dust and Flash Gordon however
have a wonderful weekend Pete and Martin.🎶🎶🎤🎸🎸🎹🥁🎶🎶
Surprised “Brighton Rock” didn’t make either list
We discussed that at the end.
My favorite heavy song is It’s Late. Love that riff.
"Ogre Battle," "The Loser in the End," and "The March of the Black Queen" are the reasons why 'Queen II' is my favorite Queen album!
The whole album is the reason why it's my favourite. I love every song on it.
No flick of the wrist?
The first Queen album was
Brilliant at least with our local rock n rollers
At the time we were listening to Sabbath Blue Oyster Cult
Aerosmith
But the first Queen was
Hard Rocking with amazing vocals
A perfect album
IMHOThe best
You could do Goofy & Heavy for Iron Maiden!😊
Queen have been my favorite band since 1980.
I can't decide best and worst,as the only songs I really don't like by them are;
Friends WIll Be Friends,Pain Is So Close To Pleasure,One Year Of Love and Cool Cat(though i would rather hear Cool Cat than the other three I mentioned)
But as for best of the heavy ones,the one that first came to mind is White Man.
I love Princess of the universe. Sheer hear attack is great.
Prophet song and death on 2 legs are my 2 all time favorites, also father to son , liar, dragon attack, stone cold, and
Tie or mother down , are top of the list
They were at their best back in their early "HEAVY" days.
Stone Cold Crazy
Liar
Son and Daughter
Father to Son
Sheer Heart Attack
Prophet Song
Death on two legs
It's Late
Dead on Time
Dragon Attack
Rock It
Tear it Up
Coming Soon
Dancer
Was it All Worth It
Princes of the Universe
Innuendo
24:30
This is the correct answer!
Slightly off topic.
When Freddie died, Queen died for me, not disrespect for Paul Rogers and Ahem Adam Lambert, but I wish Brian & Roger would have toured on a smaller venue setup doing only the songs they sang on throughout the bands back catalogue, one for the die hard fans.
Most of my favourite Queen songs are the ones they sang on, so maybe I'm biased?
Top Ten in no particular order - Stone Cold Crazy, Ogre Battle, It's Late, Brighton Rock, Father to Son, Liar, Great King Rat, Tie Your Mother Down, Sweet Lady and I'm in Love with My Car - as my favorite heavy rockers
I've never really liked Tie Your Mother Down either and I think it was the one Queen song that heavy bands decided to cover because vocally and musically it's not too complicated
The riff is fun to play, which is why it might be popular.
I never understood why "Sheer Heart Attack" was put on the NOTW album. Did they want to prove they could also make a "punk" song? It sounds like a garage recording from 1974. But then again, every Queen album is basically a collection of oddities and novelty songs (of the highest caliber, mind you). They could pull it off like no other band.
My suggestions for Friday Funhouse:
Bass. Drums. Hard or soft. Intricate or solid standard.
I dont see how Hammer to fall and Tie your mother down can be on the worst list. Along with Its Late, stone cold crazy, now im here . They are in my top 5
I like everyone of those songs, I could make a playlist of the ones put forward as the worst and have fun with it...
I've had a soft spot for early Queen [up to 'One Vision] and I find it interesting that Roger Taylor said he initially considered Queen as a heavy-metal band. In the mid-70s they were ragged on as aping Led Zeppelin.......
Anyway, I dig a few of their heavy numbers but the one that always gets me is the "Live Killers" version of "We Will Rock You," the opener not the "boof-boof-bap" popular version. Played as a straight 3-piece, it slams and whams and when Brian takes a solo, it gives me the chills how the rhythm guitar drops out and there's that space.
"In the mid-70s they were ragged on as aping Led Zeppelin......."
This very thing has always fascinated me. Admittedly, I was not around to experience any of this in real time; I got into both Queen and Led Zeppelin back in the '90s (1992 and 1994 respectively), and it wasn't until around the beginning of the 2000s (by which time I had absorbed both catalogues in full or near full) that I began to see many people (including critics) comparing Queen to Led Zeppelin, as if they were sound-alike bands. Even Pete and Martin did an episode some time back (this band is that band on steroids... something like that) wherein Martin considered Queen as 'Led Zeppelin on steroids.' I had a hard time understanding the comparison back then, and now after having spent three decades with (and loving) the output of both bands, I have an even harder time understanding it; I never could see it.
Queen's debut? Zeppelin-like? Maybe a little. Second album? Not really. After that, outside of maybe a few songs, I don't hear any Zeppelin. As a huge fan of these two, I think comparing the two does a major disservice to both bands. Both were amazingly talented, and displayed a healthy eclecticism in their musical endeavors, but were coming at it from entirely different angles. Zeppelin seemed the earthier, roots-based band; they were coming at things from a bluesy and folky aesthetic. Even with the other influences that popped up in their music (including the psychedelic touches), the earthy undercurrent was always present. By contrast, Queen came more at things from classical (I think Freddie Mercury had some classical piano training - you could hear it in both his writing and his piano playing), music hall, Broadway, etc. They were not so bluesy or roots-based, even though they touched upon these things along the way. Both could churn out the rockers and mix them with other styles, but the flavors (for lack of a better term) were very different. In the end, I can't see the comparisons - with no disrespect intended toward Martin, and other critics who've pushed this - as anything beyond superficial.
By the way, I love reading your comments (whenever they appear.) They are well-written, thoughtful, articulate and insightful. I should also mention that the comment you left on the 'Is US Progressive Rock Legit?' episode was the one that hit the nail square on the head - at the very least, it was the one that aligned most with my own thoughts on the matter.
All the best.
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I absolutely agree with you on this. I first came across the "Queen as Zeppelin imitators" in 1980 in an article in the NME encyclopedia of rock from 1977. In the same article, they referred to Queen as an "ersatz Led Zeppelin" that kept onr foot in the Glam-rock" bag and they also referred to Cockney Rebel as doing the same to David Bowie.
I couldn't see either and more than 40 years on, I still can't.
There are obvious similarities with Led Zeppelin such as being 3-pieces with a vocalist and a keyboardist that played sometime-heavy rock and were quite diverse, but that could equally apply to Black Sabbath {they did utilize keyboards at one point} and Van Halen {although I'll admit, that's a stretch}.
I think these are very interesting song choices for being the worst heavy Queen tracks. Interesting points!
I think one of the reasons Queen never went back to riff oriented heavy songs like in their first 5 album "prog/art rock" era is because of how the songwriting evolved in the band.
"The Prophet's Song" and "March Of The Black Queen" are my favorite heavy Queen songs.
And Brighton Rock ?
Led Zep has The Crunge and D'yer Maker as silly songs and they're both on the same album!
White Man sounds like a rip or an extension of The Prophet Song. Same kind of riff.
And Dead on Time sounds like Keep Yourself Alive Part 2.
And i totally forgot about The Hero...
(Martin stole the words right out of my mouth)
The Hero is the last time Queen sounded like Queen...like it was their "last hurrah".
Also Let Me Entertain You and Fight From The Inside i forgot to add to add to my list. Fight and Get Down Make Love is the beginning of Queen getting "Funky"
Awww...no Brighton Rock???
Son and Daughter, White Man, Stone Cold Crazy, Ogre Battle, Son and Daughter, Dead on Time, Princes of the Universe, Headlong, It’s Late, Liar
Tie Your Mother Down is the one that I thought of immediatly for a worst heavy Queen song. I never understood why people raved about it. Why so many people covered it alludes me as well. I guess it was an easier song to play and they were Queen fans so they wanted to include something from Queen in their sets? My all-time favorite heavy Queen song is Dragon Attack. I was hooked from the first time I heard that riff! Now that's a song that should have gotten more love!
I'm a fan of You Don't Fool Me from Made in Heaven. It would fit so well on Innuendo, in place of The Hitman.
In place of Delilah. The Hitman is great hard rock track in Queen catalogue.
I'd take Delilah off as well. In my ideal world, I'd replace that with A Winters Tale.
Agree about “Loser in the End.” The inevitable “Roger song” is always either my favorite, or most hated, song on every album. I’ve tried for years to force myself to like “Loser in the End” because I want to say Queen II is a perfect album, but I can’t quite get there. Seems shoehorned in to me.
Ogre battle is queens by tor and the snow dog 😊😊😊😊
I think Hammer to Fall is a kick ass song. Love it!
Yeah I definitely disagree with Martin on that one!
The first period was glam with heavy riffs
the mid section of Father to Son is the heaviest segment Queen ever did....and the best! strange it didn't get a mention here.
Hammer to Fall is about the only 80s Queen heavy song I like, although I admit I prefer the headbangers mix of it. At least on The Works they were still trying new sounds, by the next album they hit what all long lasting bands hit, the generic "our band sound" syndrome.
The Hitman wasn't Freddie singing about being a Hitman, it was a metaphor for the aids virus that was killing him.
I want to break free😃👍
Surprised no one picked "Great King Rat"
Great intro
@@rodneyprill4618 Always puts me in mind of a great Spaghetti Western.
Obvious track famously heavy. Fat Bottom Girls 10/10 got me into Heavy Rock .
Best: It's Late
Great show but I think a bottom 5 and top 15 would have been warranted here.
Hitman is so great.
How come nobody mentioned I GO CRAZY, the B side of Radio Ga Ga? That is immense and was actually better than some of the songs on The Works album!
Debut album full of gems
I would chose "Modern Time Rock'nRoll" short but so catchy and heavy
Wow, I would have totally had it's late off News of the world up near the top of best heavy tunes, as well as now I'm here of sheer heart attack, and seven seas of rhye off of Queen 2
White Man is my favorite, heavy song by Queen.
I get the impression they came up with a compromise regarding Brian‘s “heavy metal“ music. Freddie clearly lost interest in hard rock, but would play along as long as it was “fun“, rather than a brooding, heavy metal song. The results certainly weren’t great, but not terrible.
The Hitman!
If you want to you could do a Beatles goofy songs, there are plenty to choose from.
I was with you until you got to One Vision... That's an awesome riff and song! Oh and Princes of the Universe is one of my favorite Queen songs of a time, so to each their own! The Works and the Miracle are both major lowpoints for Queen, with all that disgusting 80's synthesizer noodling basically destroying every song on those albums... Which is ironic considering this was a band that once prided themselves in not using synthesizers!! (On A Night At the Opera back cover it states proudly "No synthesizers!".
Dead On Time is their most underrated balls out metal song imo... Man that song scorches! Funny trivia: The lightning strike at the end was actually real, which if true means even the Gods were jamming out when they recorded it to tape!
Funny enough, Queen's official channel just posted this highly relevant video this morning: ua-cam.com/video/W88qeJiLJuA/v-deo.html
I like how you guys put in the 80s in the "worsts" as the 80s to me are so hard to evaluate positively as a Queen fan - the have token heavy songs and while do like most of them a lot, "Hammer to Fall" probably the most but they pale in comparison to the 70s
An ambulance is coming for Martin....I'm in love with my car is such a classic!
"Hit Man"... soo good... yet soo bad...