How to Play Moon Knight in Dungeons & Dragons (Marvel Build for D&D 5e)
Вставка
- Опубліковано 4 лип 2022
- Get Surfshark VPN at Surfshark.deals/tulok - Enter promo code TULOK for 83% off and 3 extra months for free!
Today we have a build for Moon Knight in Dungeons & Dragons. If you wanna fly through the night and protect it's travellers in D&D 5e, we use two subclasses we haven't used yet to put this together! Check it out
Twitter: / tulokthe
Patreon: / tulok - Ігри
Optional house rule: If you land a 20 playing as Moon Knight Khonshu just materializes next to you and shouts "BREAK HIS WINDPIPE!" as you destroy the opponent's trachea.
Nah. If you kill on a nat 20, you do however take your opponent's face.
Or, the 4th personality takes over.
Edit: whom, I think, is Jake. Idk, I only watched the Disney+ series, and they never elaborated who the other personality was
When you roll a 1 it's another personality switching in forcefully like Jake.
@@remingtonwright6796 Jake is the third alter. In the Disney+ series, there are three of them. Marc, Steven, and Jake. I specify the Disney series because in the comics, I think there’s five.
@@Levsa399 I only say fourth because I was counting Konshu as the third, but perhaps he technically doesn't count
This build is cool but in my opinion Moon Knight is personified perfectly in a Zealot Barbarian. It has all the martial prowess of a barbarian combined with the religious flavour of a cleric. The subclass is literally about not dying.
Moon Knight's fighting style is often described as him not dodging attacks and instead taking them and using that opportunity to strike back, trusting his stamina to push him through. He's one of the only marvel characters that taskmaster won't copy as it is way too dangerous. That's why con based unarmored defense and reckless attack work so well here. He is leaving himself open to attacks in order to make his own attacks stronger. Multiclass or grab the fighting style feat for unarmed strikes.
Your build however is probably better for MCU Moon Knight, as it is unclear how accurate his fighting style is to the comics. It's also perfect for the flavour of Moon Knight, especially in a fantasy setting with common magic.
I agree, this build works better for Hunter's Moon than Moon Knight
I agree that this build seems quite faithful (ba dum tish) to the live action/MCU version, but perhaps not the best fit for the comic versions. Moon Knight doesn't really bust out magic in the comics, and in the few instances that he does, it's always through some sort of maguffin artifact. In the MCU, however, we see him literally channel divinity in one scene. I also appreciate the love that See Invisibility got in this build, an oft under appreciated spell, and just comes free on the Twilight cleric.
I'd have to sit down for a while to hash out a full build for a comic focused Moon Knight build, but I think I'd also start with Zealot Barbarian as a base for most of the build, for basically all the reasons you had already listed, with maybe a dip into Rogue for extra skills, expertise, and cunning action. Also, his crescent blades should qualify for sneak attack, though that would only be a bit of treat damage rather than a focus if it's only a dip. Another option to consider in this, should casting be pursued, is perhaps looking at Warlock instead of Cleric. While Khonshu *is* a god, Mark didn't find him through faith (and a lack of faith leading him to turn to Khonshu is actually a big plot point in the comics). Instead, Khonshu behaves a lot like a predatory and *very* hands on patron entity, always on his shoulder, either trying to order him around or goad him into a desired course of action. Undead Warlock might be a good fit, as Form of Dread could be reskinned into Moon Knight suiting up. A few levels in and you get your hands on invocations, and Eyes of the Rune Keeper could be a good way to read all those long dead languages. Fiendish Vigor could help maintain his relentless naturre, Devil's Sight could fill a similar role to See Invisibility, and Beguiling Influence could help to fill out skills sets held by the other personalities. Keep in mind, I'm not suggesting that he would need all four of these, but any of them could be applicable for which aspects of Moon Knight you wanted to play up in a given campaign.
I might have to actually put this sheet together at some point, it could be interesting the compare and contrast how this MCU build operates compared to a more comic centric one.
I agree I think Barbarian-Monk would work well for Moon-knight combination with the Reborn Race
For real though the "Correct" way to make Moon Knight in D&D is to make 3 Character sheets.
Marc/Moon Knight fits the Zealot Barb/Undead Warlock build
Steven/Mr Knight works as a Watchers Paladin/Support Battlemaster
Jake/"Lockley" would probably be a Bard/Rogue Build, potentially Valor on the bard side because you get an Extra Attack for that one)
"Extra Attack doesn't stack." It does when you're playing three people in a trenchcoat!
Calling dracula a nerd is the best reference tulok has ever made 😂😂
Only woulda been better if he went in for the dnd combo reference and said Strahd :P
Tulok has a lot of tropes but I think my favorite might be “ki points to do a bunch of cool [blank] stuff”
A Man Without Love is a great choice, but does anyone else feel like Mr. Moonlight by The Beatles also fits Marc/Steven/Jake?
I was thinking Moon River because of the Murderworld comic
I've been waiting for a Twilight Cleric for so long and I was really hoping to get one with Moon Knight. I'm very happy right now.
Alright, we’re probably looking at a Warlock/Paladin type
“Charisma at 8”
Well darn
I had figured Zealot Barbarian/Fighter, lol
I was expecting some gloomstalker cleric combo
I was expecting a Celestial Warlock Twilight Cleric combination, so I had the same reaction
I was thinking straight Celestial Warlock with Pact of the blade. Seems Like you can get everything you need from that.
I was thinking warlock as well along with fighter instead of monk
Moon Knight sounds like the easiest build I'm the world, until you realise just how many routes you can go. Props for giving twilight cleric some love!
I haven't been this excited since a cleric/monk multiclass since the Luigi build.
When I tried building him, I mostly stuck with Barbogue, with a dip in fighter for Action Surge. The Zealot sublcass mixed with Assassin worked really well for me, especially when I had another action each short rest.
I was so happy when Moon Knight got announced. He's my favourite character in the comics. Unlike literally every other media source, they handled DID really well.
Agreed!!!
Try immortal hulk.
Another tv show that deals with DID I'd Mr.Robot, really good show
I tried to build this dude out back in April, and I am unreasonably proud that I was only one level off from Tulok's build. Makes me feel a little more confident next time I build a character!
Also so this isn't just backpatting: isn't Oscar Isaac simply dreamy?
So dreamy
I’ve always thought he’d work best as a celestial warlock. The main thing for me is picking up Armor of Shadows, literally a magical armor shell granted to you by your patron which you can don or dismiss at any time. Celestial Warlock for the obvious Moon in Moon Knight, but also because its 1st ability can be used to heal yourself as a bonus action. Khonshu’s armor is healing armor, after all.
Omg!! I love how respectful you are about plurality and DID, you're like the only UA-camr I've seen who isn't super disrespectful and ignorant about it, it's really refreshing, and I especially love how you emphasize listening to people with lived experience with it
I’m really glad about it too. My fiancé is someone who has DID themselves and is something that we explain to people really frequently, really making this all the more refreshing to see. ^^
Quite a few systems that are UA-camrs, at least one of which did a review of Moon Knight. I've learned a lot watching their content.
Twilight Domain Cleric.
And you mentioned vampires earlier.
The jokes write themselves.
Man I thought for sure moon knight was going to be a celestial warlock due to that's how I view their relationship with konshu with armor of Shadows representing the moon knight garbs
My only quibble with this video is that “Lore Lord” should have been called “God Only Knows”
But this comment is mostly to appease the algorithms
Now that the power of the Moon has been displayed with Moon Knight, maybe you could display the power of the Sun with Birdman. No, I'm serious, part of Birdman's backstory is that the Egyptian sun god Ra granted him his powers, but he needs to absorb the power of the sun on a regular basis or he no longer has his powers. Weren't expecting me to mention a Hana-Barbara character from the 1960s, were you? Also, Zandor from Herculoids, another Han-Barbara character from the 1960s, might be an interesting build for that; although you'll probably have to read the two-part comic Future Quest to learn a bit out his backstory that isn't made readily available in other places, like the Herculoids animated series.
As someone with DID, I'd represent alters with either skill proficiencies or, if your DM is cool with it, different builds.
I am playing almost exactly this multiclass right now. Shadow monk instead of Long Death, and I'm going to 14 monk for that sweet sweet diamond soul. Overall, very fun. People who say that monks don't multiclass well are nuts.
man, can I ask you the levels you took from each? this build seems really fun
@@sntcci For sure! Started with 6 monk levels-I needed Shadow Step. Took two levels of cleric for the channel divinity, then two more of each for back to back ASI's, and that's where we're at now, level 12. Since I only intend to go 6 levels of cleric I might just do those right away, and make Diamond Soul my capstone. The mid-levels of monk don't feel like they offer nearly as much as so I'm kind of fine putting them off. Diamond Soul is so good though, I can't pass it up.
Now, I was lucky enough to roll good enough stats to max my Dex and Wis (the main reason I did a MAD build), and my Con isn't too shabby either. If my con was lower, I'd probably use the last ASI to take Tough. As it stands I don't need to do that so I'll have a little flexibility. Losing that 1 ASI would really suck with poorer stats.
It multiclasses fine with Druid, Rogue and Fighter. Cleric works alright too.
The others are trickier but doable.
It's more that multiclassing into monks gives you little as you don't get a lot of ki-points, dipping out can be very effective though (and even if it isn't, if it's fun than that's good enough too)
1. Monk and Cleric mix pretty well.
2. Remember that while certain mental issues or disability's can be interesting things for a character always try to be understanding and respectful while doing so. And always be open to criticism when doing so.
When I saw the stats I knew this would be a Cleric Monk
When ya gotta Clonk, ya gotta Clonk.
Two things I wish to say:
First off, it really warms my heart to see you show understanding and respect for the DID community and everything because there aren’t many people who’re aware of something like that and it’s especially important for people with it. (I have a fiancé with many many alters and I need to see about myself with it too as I’m undiagnosed.) so thank you so much for researching and everything, it really means a lot.
Secondly: What an amazing build and two subclasses that we never knew of before and really getting me thinking how else I would be multi classing into, really well done and amazing work mate. ^^
YESSSSS I've been wanting a Moon Knight build!
....I don't wanna fight the hippo goddess, I want to hug her 🥺
I appreciate that someone remembers Long Death monk. It's hecking underrated.
Extra points for the Dracula Meme reference!!
Very flavorful. I had made Moon Knight in anticipation of your video to see how close I was, which was somewhat similar... Sort of.
8 levels of Barbarian (Zealot)
12 levels of Paladain (Oath of Vengeance)
I went hard into the raging violence of Moon Knight from the comics. Tanking hits with Barb and max Con with Tough. Focused on using quarterstaff with polearm master and sentinel to lock down enemies and free shift with relentless avenger. All while getting extra radiant damage from dice from divine smite and divine fury.
I think this is the first time I've beat you to doing a build, you definitely took a different route than I did, I dig it!
He better have a decent Khonshutution score.
Not criticizing your build, as it seems really well put-together, but I feel like Moon Knight's lore more accurately matches a Warlock. He struck a deal with Khonshu, who in exchange provides him power.
Yeah but Khonshu is also a god, sooo... Cleric works absolutely fine? No one says you can't become a cleric by making a deal.
The only thing more rad than Tulok’s glorious locks, or his strong allyship, sense of humor, quality, or consistency, is his …well IDK, maybe his recommendations. Idk really know him. Wow, maybe his boundaries with his fanbase. What a champ. 12/10, math.
Allyship 🤣
I love Monk + Cleric multiclasses so much and the flavor overlap here is so, so good. Not a huge Moonknight fan but a big fan of this build.
I can see why you went with cleric monk, but honestly, I don't see Marc and Steven as really worshiping Konshu like a cleric would. Their relationship very much seems to me like the relationship between a warlock and a patron. I personally went with a fighter (champion, preferably brute)/ undead warlock (I see summoning the suit as action armor of shadows for mage armor and bonus action form of dread)
And his croissant being eldritch blast
It varies a lot in the comics, over time. There have been periods where MK worshipped the concept of Khonshu, and fulfilled his duties, while the god was full-on imprisoned as a result of his actions - working for the throne, hating the dude on it, you know?
I similarly built a Moon Knight-themed character a while back and settled on a fighter warlock. I ended up going with Battle Master and Celestial Patron myself, but I can't say I didn't consider Champion and Undead, for much the same reasons.
@@capman42 I went with champion because moon knight's fighting style is more brutish and excessively violent than it is skillful. I can see celestial, but Konshu is basically a mummey deity so in my mind undead fits more. To each to their own though
Depends on the continuity. In the show, probably a warlock. Khonshu and Marc made a deal. In the current Moon Knight run, he's more of a cleric because he considers himself a priest (even though Khonshu as a deity is no longer his object of worship). He upholds the values of Khonshu and treats them as guiding principles.
I think both continuities can make a case for paladin, though. The difference between a deal and an oath is slim at best, and MK is usually devoted to "Protecting the Travellers of the Night" which is an oath if I've ever heard one. Plus, Paladins use less spells than smites, which is more in-line with Moon Knight as a combatant. And paladins still get Channel Divinities.
I was wondering when this build would show up. Not disappointed, it’s a good one.
i’ve been waiting for this my entire life
I really appreciate the foreword about DID at the beginning Tulok 🖤
YES! I've been thinking about how to build a Moon Knight type character for my next campaign :D
Damn, I like this build, your Cleric/Monk combos are always fun.
Over the moon for this build
Personally I see Moon Knight as a Celestial Pact Warlock. The key here is he and Konshu made a deal with Esther for each-others benefit. But this build goes hard!!!
I have Dissociative Identity Disorder and I just wanted to say THANK YOU for being so respectful! DID is often misrepresented in the media and Moon Knight is the only source of media (at least that I’ve seen) that actually represents it well. Sure, there are elements of it that are dramatised but they are dramatised respectfully and handled with a lot of care. Thank you for carrying that respect into this video.
YES THANK YOU FOR THIS EPISODE TULOK ILOVE YOU
Always rare I’m this early. Love it! Always enjoy the videos
I watched a couple of other builds by other channels and they all went with the barbarian class and the unarmed combat feat. It didn't feel right to me, so I am extremely pleased with Tulok's choices.
Very good intro; short, well said, said all the important things, ok now we're moving on. Appreciate it
I like these abilities and how they fit into Moon Knight's capabilities.
Actually, they do have a race with multiple personalities, Jekyll's, and a class, so you could mesh some stuff together to make moon knight with personality disorder. Just thought I'd point that out. Actually, Jekyll's only have two personalities, but the class has multiple, so you could just stick with the class.
"I know your here Strahd you big [funni bleep] Nerd. Wheres my god damn Gold pieces?"
"Dies and comes back" How the heck is he gonna work a Zealot Barbarian into this?
Mad respect with that intro 👍
Woah this is a good video! Very fun and funny!
Another thing you could include for this build is 3 levels of soul knife rogue for the weapons you can pull from your chest and throw at will.
I’m doing a Halloween Vecna fight and I’m thinking about doing this build! We’re building a lvl 20 character and so I’m pumped!! 🎃🎃
Omg he is my fave thank you for this
Damn, love the plural acceptance my man. Thanks 😊
Thank You!
dude please do a sun wukong build would be dope
I feel like Taldorei Reborn's Moon Cleric, or maybe Grave Cleric would be a better Cleric subclass option.
Also if it were me, I would've gone Long Death Monk with Zealot Barbarian.
"Can't nobody do it like me."
"Not even me, I know."
You should try to make cayde-6 from destiny 2 i feel like that would be a fun challenge for you since the lore and world of destiny is also very expansive like DND. I think making a high charisma warforged work would be a nice stray off the beaten path most people take with warforged too.
I would love to see Cloak From Cloak and Dagger
"...Spells to ask a deity 'what the hell is going on'?". Stephen would have loved to have those in the first two episodes, instead of the god in question just looming over him mysteriously.
Steven was a commoner back then. Marc had the Class Levels then
As a person with the same disorder I always loved him very much as a child because I related very much to him
Thank you for being so respectful about DID Tulok, we really appreciate it :)
EDIT: Also, thank you for disrespecting Jersey. We're also from Jersey, and it's warranted.
Great build that reminded me that I still HAVEN'T WATCHED MOON KNIGHT. Also, kinda surprised that this would be the first Long Death build (unless there was one before I can't remember), I thought we wouldn't see it until he made a Shang Tsung build or something.
Twilight Cleric is the most Moon subclass, even more so than the one with Moon in it (Until Moon Sorc becomes official).
What about Circle of the Moon Druid? That wouldn't work for this build, but it is pretty Moon-y
[Huge inhale]
EVERYDAY I WAKE UP...
Well I know who I'm playing for my next COS campaign
Thanks.
Finally, a long death monk build
Twilight cleric and echo knight fighter is how I built him.
That way you can take unarmed fighting and have a echo for when they split etc
I would love to see you make a Khonshu one
MOOON KNIGHTTTY BABY WOOOOOOO
"listen to the voices" We see you there. Ty for commenting on not making my existence a DnD mechanic.
Every day I wake up, then I start to break up, knowing there’s no Morbius build #morbiussweep
I was thinking Lorehold Warlock (Pact of the Blade)/Long Death Monk, puts in some archaeology in the old buildology. Also, Eldritch Blast is force damage. Long-range Crescent Blades or staffs?
I'm really surprised you didn’t go for any levels in warlock, but twilight cleric and monk definitely makes sense.
I imagined him more like a Warlock/Monk because of his relationship with Khonshu, I liked him as a reborn I had forgotten that this option existed
The "can't die" technically applies to all superheroes. Except Mar-Vell
I thought you were gonna go twilight cleric + gloomstalker! I like your way better now 😂
Could you have a look at: Talion from "shadow of Mordor". A ranger human tethered to the soul of an elven smith, would make for an interesting build in my mind.
In theory, there is an elf race or something that lets you be multiple characters based of seasons…
Edit: please do a helltaker character I need this
With respect to those who have DID, if you simply MUST play a character that has elements of it built in, the Eladrin race of elves from Monsters of the Multiverse is a player race with different personality traits and abilities depending on which of the four seasons they are aligned with. The player can choose one and stick with it, or you can swap between them at the end of a long rest. These can easily be used to simulate someones alters if they choose to do so, but always see what your group/DM is comortable with.
This is actually an intriguing concept, although I haven't actually played a system in ages (that was with a separate player, although toying with the idea of actually trying to share a character to do something again ourselves) and those mechanics have potential
I always played mk as a ranger barbarian hybrid switching to mark/jake could be considered a rage... That way only Steven could use spells it added a unique restriction on my actions and roleplay
Another great build. Now how about getting around to the Flash Gordon build?
Will you do a Percy Jackson build? That would be awesome
oh sweet, it's my favorite marvel hero! ...that I've never watched in anything or read any comics of or played as in a videogame...
wait, how do i know this guy again?
*checks memory*
*picture of The Marvel RPG character encyclopedias*
He is a Marvel Batman with minor superpowers that he got from a God who would approve of Black Adam's take on heroism.
He also has DID (and got it back when it was called Multiple Personality Disorder, so the writing on that part has varied over the years) and to a lesser extent schizophrenia. Sometimes he just thinks he is talking to Khonshu but it is just a hallucination.
Something I've always been curious about, the wording on Improved Unarmored Movement is "you gain the ability to move along vertical surfaces". I always felt like "along" means running horizontally along a wall, like a wall run, not running straight up a wall. Has there been any official ruling on it or is it just up to DM interpretation?
Okay, pre-vid prediction: I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess Revenant, Twilight Cleric, maybe a shadow Sourcerors dip to be harder to kill.
Post vid: okay! Reborn, not revenant, my b. Also, totally forgot that Long Death Monk was a thing. All told though, my best guess yet!
What book is the Reborn background form I've never heard of it???????
How do you select twilight domain. Mine only says life domain?
Tulok telling us to do our research when playing a character with a mental condition or a disability like in the Toph video is pretty based. Glad you also referenced the Moon Knight memes, too.
Start of video: why not Undying Warlock?
End of video: oh... Okay. Nice :)
Weird question but do you have a build for Phil from Groundhog Day as portrayed by Bill Murray?
Can you do scaret scarab as well?
Interesting. I thought you'd go with Paladin or Zealot Barbarian.
Can you please do Sauron next? I need to have this character.
Is _Moon Knight_ the most 'I don't die' build on _Building Character_ now?
...maaaaybeee.....
Have y'all heard of Mutants and Masterminds?