The best (most vivid) memory of this car is from Finland '96 when I was hit by stones and rubble standing in the outside corner. It was Juha, back from his sabbatical year off, throwing his Celica around with a smile.
Lol that same thing happened to me but with Didier Auriol driving the Celica in Sweden '95. Took a big old stone to the knee cap that sent me to the ground :D
@@crusty_trucks group b was awesome but i feel like the only car i like in group b was the rs2000 and the audi quattro s1 e2 group a just had cooler cars and noises in my opinion
@@crusty_trucks group B was slower than 1996 -1997 group A cars and group B cars couldn’t use handbrake on turns..but kids like you have zero idea about that.
@@zepter00 you're kind of talking out of your ass. The group A cars were in no way faster than group B. The group B, in the final years had twice the power of the later group A cars and with ~250KG less. But the engineering of the group A class in the mid 90s was better for sure, the cars weren't as much of a death trap.
@@griffins5655 they engineered (brilliantly) an expanding restrictor plate that when tightened, expanded allowing more air into the turbo. You couldn’t tell as when you took it off, it closed back to the allowed size. Very, very clever.
@@NightwalkerUK ooh that’s sick! How did they manage to get it to close back? I could understand if they used a more dense but flexible metal so that it would compress and expand but how the fuck did they get it to go back to the original shape?!?
@@mrstrawcloud wile a rally legend the road version always struck me as a over-inflated ST165 (which my dad had and which turned me of the st185 shape wise) always had a thing for the ST205 family...still miss my at200 T.T despite the tractor turning circle, being somewhat thirsty wile in city traffic, and it's 115hp 1.8 requiring a plan to overtake instead of just winging it i just loved it's shape always walked towards it with a smile, shame toyota is not known for amazing rustproofing, they'd be damn near immortal :(
1995, the greatest WRC ever. Besides 1982 to 1986, which were Group B, rallying at its very best. And, 1998, 2001, 2003 and every single one from 1987 to 2006 which are the ones that had Colin McRae. And all of the ones that had Walter Rohrl as well. :)
@@r8malooman and you're a real firecracker yourself eh? With the emojis and what not.. why don't you give yourself a pad on the shoulder. How am i wrong?
One of the best channels on YT hands down and I love the new style of adding some info while showing the images. THANK YOU SO MUCH to make my childhood memories alive again.
Brings back great memories of when I attended Rally Australia in the mid-1990's. I remember when the GT-Four was going through scrutineering, Juha Kankkunen was there making jokes and having a good time!
@@ronaldstreicher2532 Turbo air intake restrictor was reduced to 34 mm before 1995 season, and the engine didn't cope with that very well. Power output dropped almost 100 hp from 1994 season according to Kankkunen
Always had a soft spot for that wide flat body shell. Just like the P2000. Its looked both sleek and fat ! And I just love how agile the cars looked in action back then. Really active and lively and powerful.
Man, i can't even write down how nice is it, to have you back. Thanks for the work. Btw. nice touch with some extra info, while staying quite and leting us listen to those beasts. Have a great day.
Thanks for the the rally videos, i could only see the rally on tv after the daily news on national television there was a sports section i would wait every day and pray to god that they broadcast something on wrc, i got goose bumps just seeing ten seconds video clips, today i race hillclimbs with both Subaru Sti ra and Toyota Celica St205s. Love em.both
Awesome footage, awesome sound, awesome editing. Great to hear Nicky’s voice without any shitty UA-cam music. The ST205 was a perfect example of; If you don’t cheat, you don’t want to win bad enough. You can try to justify what Toyota did, as every fan and other team would themselves. It’s what engineers are paid for. 😎
You can just hear on that first debut the fierceness of the engine stealing air, ripping it from the very atmosphere around it and turning it into the most passionate and powerful fire that the engine can muster, every ounce of its energy put into being absolutely perfect in every cylinders exploring and as the drivetrain forces all of its mechanical might to shove the dirt and land behind it.
I've owned a st185 GTFOUR and an St202 Beams red top and personally the best thing about these cars are the feed back from steering to handling and the right amount of power they really are like big go karts!
When you say a fast Toyota, most people tend to imagine the Supra. I think most viewers of this video would instead say Celica GT-Four. I think it's so much cooler than the Supra. Maybe that's just the rally fan in me speaking. Or the guy who doesn't want the same car that everyone wants. Either way, Celica GT-Four > Yaris GR >>> any Supra. Happy to see Toyota back in rallying, hoping to see them steal the title back from Hyundai.
To be frank the restrictor thing was a gateway for cheating. In practice those cars had bigger engines than Group B, but much smaller turbos. Putting a restrictor instead of enforcing a unified turbo spec (like they do now) allowed to putting any turbo you wanted, you just had to put that piece there to restrict the intake. If you look at WRCs of the period that teams and pilots preserve, all can go way higher than 300HP with those turbos. I've heard the Imp '95 goes to 365HP without said restrictor.
I'm obsessed with this car, in the Castrol livery. It's beautiful. When I hear the word "Rally" I see this car. The only other car on the same level of beauty is the Alitalia livery Lancia Stratos. I guess you could add the Lancia Delta HF Integrale with Martini Racing livery. Does that ring a bell?
Раллийная ST205 и гражданская ST205 это конечно разные машины... Даже в настоящее время когда выезжаю, привлекает внимание.. каждый день ездить не будешь, но иногда...положительные эмоции гарантированы.
Раллийные машины бывают сильно разной подготовки, группа а8 - да, сильно отоичалась, а вот N4, по факту тогла были стандартными машинами, только каркас, подвеска, салон отоичались, а мотор и остальное - серийное и , если не ооибаюсь, именно в N4 на 205 селике был выигран чемпионат европы
@3213232 1231223 yeah but point being made is the Toyota Celica was good enough they didn't have to cheat they could have still had a very good chance win the title . So they really messed up twice
I am not sure which of the Group A cars is the best looking, but this one definitely looks the most focussed in its design - not a four door, low slung, purposeful.
@@installshieldwizard3017 Not that really but if you take Balestre into consideration as someone who did actuate in favor of his weird ideals, maybe. Too bad this is so controversial that this is going to be the final comment of mine about this (yes, there will be denial and crying but in the end that's the truth).
I had a yellow ST205 fir a short period. Im sure the golf ball sized circular bonnet/ hood vent to the left of the main one (which was for the chargecooler) fed the cambelt area 🤔 Any ST205 aficionados know what it was for and why? Some people called it the Bullet Hole or Bullet Vent.
Nada que comparar a estos grandisimos con pilotos de hoy en dia( sin menos despreciar a pilotos de wrc a dia de hoy), pero coches inferiores en tecnologia y mecanica comparando a los wrc de hoy pero ofreciendo el mismo espectáculo que a los wrc de hoy en dia, incluso más espectáculo debido a las carencias que habia en aquella época. Mucho más dificil de pilotar y mucha mano para llevar al limite éstos coches. Grandes pilotos de aquella época.
They were that fast, because it was a tubular frame, with a engine, and 2 seats, bolted on... safety was not taken to account. Especially insane, when knowledge of magnesium and hot engines, already was plentiful
@@mortenfrosthansen84 and the cars even in 90s were probably faster except for top speed, which isn't so important anymore because the average speed of a stage is generally limited to 130km/h in the rules now
I wonder how long they were using the ilegal restrictor, in Portugal they made a huge leap in power output... they said "it was a new microchip", yeah yeah, sure sure...
god i always thought these things looked so rad with the big white 6 spoke tarmac wheels on. one of the raddest cars toyota made, always was overshadowed by the supra
No one likes a cheat! Solid car my friend had one, once tuned seriously capable however it was a bit skitty on the limit and cramped inside. I much prefer driving 96 STI.
Comunque con la flangia da 34 (dopo quella farlocca) era quella con il motore più coppioso... ricordo uno start al millemiglia 96 di pianezzola o dallavilla da paura, 30 secondi... 20 accensione bang 54321 io ero li da parte le gomme hanno strappato l asfalto.. le altre non scattavano cosi
The best (most vivid) memory of this car is from Finland '96 when I was hit by stones and rubble standing in the outside corner. It was Juha, back from his sabbatical year off, throwing his Celica around with a smile.
"standing in the outside corner"
Lol that same thing happened to me but with Didier Auriol driving the Celica in Sweden '95. Took a big old stone to the knee cap that sent me to the ground :D
@@installshieldwizard3017 forgive him for not being a snowflake
@@drazenbudis7881 what would being a snowflake be like then?
@@installshieldwizard3017 oh its bad
The mid 90's had the coolest rally cars!
*Laughs in Group B
@@crusty_trucks group b was awesome but i feel like the only car i like in group b was the rs2000 and the audi quattro s1 e2 group a just had cooler cars and noises in my opinion
@@crusty_trucks group B was slower than 1996 -1997 group A cars and group B cars couldn’t use handbrake on turns..but kids like you have zero idea about that.
@@zepter00 you're kind of talking out of your ass. The group A cars were in no way faster than group B. The group B, in the final years had twice the power of the later group A cars and with ~250KG less. But the engineering of the group A class in the mid 90s was better for sure, the cars weren't as much of a death trap.
@UCuJI1MMqTzC2TC_5OWPnukQ it'd be interesting to see results on other stages.
I remember when they found out the "cheat" the FIA was like " Thats so ingenious i aint even mad " it was so well made and executed.
Sorry I only got into rally racing in the last couple of years (and I’m also only 18) what’s this cheat?
@@griffins5655 they engineered (brilliantly) an expanding restrictor plate that when tightened, expanded allowing more air into the turbo. You couldn’t tell as when you took it off, it closed back to the allowed size. Very, very clever.
@@NightwalkerUK ooh that’s sick! How did they manage to get it to close back? I could understand if they used a more dense but flexible metal so that it would compress and expand but how the fuck did they get it to go back to the original shape?!?
@@griffins5655 www.themechanists.com/2019/03/11/a-cheat-so-brilliant-it-was-applauded-by-rule-makers/
Yeah.. They were not even mad..so They banned whole team on 1996 season
Finally, a car video without stupid music !! Tks !!
Lol.....Exactly what I thought.
All the music we needed was that snarling and crackling coming from the exhaust
@@aussieausdeutschland4245 it's the perfect music, I listen to this in my headphone while I am working :) such a good soundtrack
supra: i was in fast and furious.
gt-four: oh thats cute.
Oh thats cute. Toyota Supra Celica laughs
Oh this age old joke again... Is it time to laugh now?
C R I N G E
tbf Supra was in JGTC
@@HHCHunterYTC it was, but you pretty much could buy this as it was.
I'll never forget the sound of this beast echoing through the woods minutes before we could see it in the Rally de Portugal. Great times.
Unforgettable in the Castrol livery!
the best Celica for ever
mk4 to mk6 are the best
Nah the pop up one was better the st185
@@lild3838 eh I’m not the biggest fan of the looks of the st185. I’m more of a fan of the st205.
@@mrstrawcloud wile a rally legend the road version always struck me as a over-inflated ST165 (which my dad had and which turned me of the st185 shape wise) always had a thing for the ST205 family...still miss my at200 T.T despite the tractor turning circle, being somewhat thirsty wile in city traffic, and it's 115hp 1.8 requiring a plan to overtake instead of just winging it i just loved it's shape always walked towards it with a smile, shame toyota is not known for amazing rustproofing, they'd be damn near immortal :(
1995, the greatest WRC ever.
Besides 1982 to 1986, which were Group B, rallying at its very best.
And, 1998, 2001, 2003 and every single one from 1987 to 2006 which are the ones that had Colin McRae.
And all of the ones that had Walter Rohrl as well.
:)
Nothing wrong with the turbo.
It was a clever air restrictor deemed illegal
that's because it was illegal and Toyota knew it. mind you its only cheating if you get caught
It's cheating.. plain simple. No respect for rules or competition.
A real low for Toyota
@@mortenfrosthansen84 yeah righto cranky 🤣
You not too savvy on behind the scenes stuff with a blunt narrow comment like that 🤣
@@r8malooman and you're a real firecracker yourself eh? With the emojis and what not.. why don't you give yourself a pad on the shoulder.
How am i wrong?
@@r8malooman and you immediately know me, by reading one comment? What a tool
Amjayes is back?!? That's the best news of 2020!
One of the best channels on YT hands down and I love the new style of adding some info while showing the images. THANK YOU SO MUCH to make my childhood memories alive again.
I have the GT version of this car. I Love it so much.
Brings back great memories of when I attended Rally Australia in the mid-1990's. I remember when the GT-Four was going through scrutineering, Juha Kankkunen was there making jokes and having a good time!
St 205...Una leggenda intramontabile! Grazie per il video.
You can definitely see and hear that change in horsepower between RAC 94 and Monte 95
🤣
🤣🤣you have definitely some special ears 😂😂
@@ronaldstreicher2532 egine revs higher with more power, quite simple
@@037racing they had more torque not revs...simple
@@ronaldstreicher2532 Turbo air intake restrictor was reduced to 34 mm before 1995 season, and the engine didn't cope with that very well. Power output dropped almost 100 hp from 1994 season according to Kankkunen
Always had a soft spot for that wide flat body shell. Just like the P2000. Its looked both sleek and fat ! And I just love how agile the cars looked in action back then. Really active and lively and powerful.
0:40 *mustang mode: ON*
😂
Man, i can't even write down how nice is it, to have you back. Thanks for the work. Btw. nice touch with some extra info, while staying quite and leting us listen to those beasts. Have a great day.
The snow rims look hot!
Thanks for the the rally videos, i could only see the rally on tv after the daily news on national television there was a sports section i would wait every day and pray to god that they broadcast something on wrc, i got goose bumps just seeing ten seconds video clips, today i race hillclimbs with both Subaru Sti ra and Toyota Celica St205s. Love em.both
Awesome footage, awesome sound, awesome editing. Great to hear Nicky’s voice without any shitty UA-cam music. The ST205 was a perfect example of; If you don’t cheat, you don’t want to win bad enough. You can try to justify what Toyota did, as every fan and other team would themselves. It’s what engineers are paid for. 😎
You can just hear on that first debut the fierceness of the engine stealing air, ripping it from the very atmosphere around it and turning it into the most passionate and powerful fire that the engine can muster, every ounce of its energy put into being absolutely perfect in every cylinders exploring and as the drivetrain forces all of its mechanical might to shove the dirt and land behind it.
The curves on these Celicas....such beautiful machines.
I love the sound with the anti-lag crackles and pops.
Scotty kilmer: *Heavy breathing intensifies*
Scotty is an idiot
....But he's got good taste in cars
@@miralemnermina142 cringe redditor
@@victorvaida4272 not a redditor
@@miralemnermina142 how? He fixes cars and has decades of experience. He may be biased towards Japanese brands but it's not without reason.
I've owned a st185 GTFOUR and an St202 Beams red top and personally the best thing about these cars are the feed back from steering to handling and the right amount of power they really are like big go karts!
A thing of beauty.
That thing looks lethal on tarmac 😮
"FIA" dislikes this....
Ah you are an educated one! They did indeed have illegal turbo tuning on these celicas lmao
the sound has a ST185 feel, but it's a tad less aggressive
anyway welcome back amjayes
Love the antilag system on those st205's. Was not a fan of the side exhaust. Ford was the best with side exhausts
Sierra 3dr,sapphire, escort cossies.
When you say a fast Toyota, most people tend to imagine the Supra. I think most viewers of this video would instead say Celica GT-Four. I think it's so much cooler than the Supra.
Maybe that's just the rally fan in me speaking. Or the guy who doesn't want the same car that everyone wants. Either way, Celica GT-Four > Yaris GR >>> any Supra.
Happy to see Toyota back in rallying, hoping to see them steal the title back from Hyundai.
This Toyota Celica car first appeared in Sega Rally Championship 1995 (Arcade & Sega Saturn).
My favorite Sega Rally racer 👍❤
that extra 25hp was paying off shame it was banned
First version Celica: Japan's Mustang
After some updates it keeps getting better
This was an Integra Type R on steroids in my opinion
It’s hard to believe that the same engine in the ST205 rally car was also used for the Supra in JGTC
The time when rallye cars were legendary
To be frank the restrictor thing was a gateway for cheating. In practice those cars had bigger engines than Group B, but much smaller turbos. Putting a restrictor instead of enforcing a unified turbo spec (like they do now) allowed to putting any turbo you wanted, you just had to put that piece there to restrict the intake. If you look at WRCs of the period that teams and pilots preserve, all can go way higher than 300HP with those turbos. I've heard the Imp '95 goes to 365HP without said restrictor.
There is a diffrence on being called Banned and being a Cheater
beware this is a fan girl site, your post will be deleted
Juha kankkunen drove that car in the last two rounds of the 1994 season
Fabulous video 👏👍🙂
Great to see you back 😁
Another top video. Brilliant stuff
The most beautiful rally car ever created.
Time to see this beast again in GT7 next week🏁
I want a 96 gt four. Then my life would be complete!!
You can buy one for about 30k euros.
Theres like a dozen on sale just in germany.
Good to see you back
I'm obsessed with this car, in the Castrol livery. It's beautiful. When I hear the word "Rally" I see this car. The only other car on the same level of beauty is the Alitalia livery Lancia Stratos. I guess you could add the Lancia Delta HF Integrale with Martini Racing livery. Does that ring a bell?
my nigga Nicky Grist was out here just casually changing rally racing forever from the passenger seat.....
Раллийная ST205 и гражданская ST205 это конечно разные машины... Даже в настоящее время когда выезжаю, привлекает внимание.. каждый день ездить не будешь, но иногда...положительные эмоции гарантированы.
Раллийные машины бывают сильно разной подготовки, группа а8 - да, сильно отоичалась, а вот N4, по факту тогла были стандартными машинами, только каркас, подвеска, салон отоичались, а мотор и остальное - серийное и , если не ооибаюсь, именно в N4 на 205 селике был выигран чемпионат европы
Nicky Grist, in adition of being a co driving legend, he is also a champion, in 93 with KKK.
Those Snarling Celicas... the best sounding car of all the 90s rally weapons.
Those people standing on the course...I hate that so much, so disrespectful to the drivers.
Yep, and it's idiots like that who got Group B banned.
@@MajorDook1 yep...
The most perfect trick in the history of motorsports recognized by FIA Chairman.
Welcome back missed your videos
3:52 that is one juicy transition DAMN
The best Group A car imho, they would have won the 1995 title - even without cheating.
I love the escos
thats wht made it worse the fact they didnt have too
@3213232 1231223 because Toyota cheated
@3213232 1231223 yeah but point being made is the Toyota Celica was good enough they didn't have to cheat they could have still had a very good chance win the title . So they really messed up twice
@3213232 1231223 Because Toyota did get banned
I am not sure which of the Group A cars is the best looking, but this one definitely looks the most focussed in its design - not a four door, low slung, purposeful.
The restrictor was more of a spit in the face of FIA rather than cheating, that's why they banned the car.
FIA is French so...
@@hbtm2951 you mean they are cucked too?
@@installshieldwizard3017 Not that really but if you take Balestre into consideration as someone who did actuate in favor of his weird ideals, maybe. Too bad this is so controversial that this is going to be the final comment of mine about this (yes, there will be denial and crying but in the end that's the truth).
bs chose an uncompetitive platform to start with for marketing reasons and proceeded to dig a whole for themselves
What? Yeah in your mind maybe... It was downright embarrassing, when they got caught.. they never expected it to be uncovered. fucking cheaters
0:52 somebody swearing with a blasphemy in Italian XD
What were they saying?
Literally my dream car
No boot space though.
@@Charliechorizo I had an 03 celica, had plenty of cargo space. For what I needed it for, anyways.
Very tempting to get one of these as my second car....
The reason why i loved playing Sega Rally :)
Some of this footage looks like shot on full HD camera. It must be some crazy expensive gear back then !
In an era rllying full with cool cars..
That 2step is eargasm!!
very well done with the editing in this vid
I had a yellow ST205 fir a short period. Im sure the golf ball sized circular bonnet/ hood vent to the left of the main one (which was for the chargecooler) fed the cambelt area 🤔
Any ST205 aficionados know what it was for and why? Some people called it the Bullet Hole or Bullet Vent.
Yep, cam belt cooler. I have an st205 myself
I have one of those and love it to bits
The induction noise on full boost was particularly 'sweet'. Ove Andersson was mortified.
Nada que comparar a estos grandisimos con pilotos de hoy en dia( sin menos despreciar a pilotos de wrc a dia de hoy), pero coches inferiores en tecnologia y mecanica comparando a los wrc de hoy pero ofreciendo el mismo espectáculo que a los wrc de hoy en dia, incluso más espectáculo debido a las carencias que habia en aquella época. Mucho más dificil de pilotar y mucha mano para llevar al limite éstos coches. Grandes pilotos de aquella época.
Didn't know that Scotty Kilmer's car could slide around like that 😯
Great stuff. Thx from austria
We need Group R - Resurrection - and bring back Group B cars with updated safety specs :O
They were that fast, because it was a tubular frame, with a engine, and 2 seats, bolted on... safety was not taken to account.
Especially insane, when knowledge of magnesium and hot engines, already was plentiful
@@mortenfrosthansen84 and the cars even in 90s were probably faster except for top speed, which isn't so important anymore because the average speed of a stage is generally limited to 130km/h in the rules now
Master piece!!!!
I wonder how long they were using the ilegal restrictor, in Portugal they made a huge leap in power output... they said "it was a new microchip", yeah yeah, sure sure...
Thanks for not putting stupid electric music in this video
god i always thought these things looked so rad with the big white 6 spoke tarmac wheels on. one of the raddest cars toyota made, always was overshadowed by the supra
The banned car manufacturer still makes the best car to come to this world car 30 years later
いつの時代もラリーdriverは狂ってるよなぁ😃
カッコいい～‼️
コーナーを気持ちよく曲がって俺にもできるんじゃね⁉️って錯覚おこしてまうほど綺麗なコーナーリングww
They were excluded from the championship in 1995 and 1996 due to turbo regularity
They had only one win with the celica with didier auriol in 1995 Corsica rally but they never added any wins with armin schwarz nor juha kankkunen
当時のデータ等が今のGR Yarisにも活かされているのでしょうね💖
I used to have a Celica GT4 fantastic cars
とても素晴らしい映像を見つけました！CELICAは、私の人生の一部です。I found a very nice video! CELICA is a part of my life.
Toyota Celica's best masterpieces are the first A20 / 30 and the sixth T200.
The celica then got replaced by the Carolla in late 1997
I never realised they used a side exit pipe
That's because they didn't 🤣. At 7:10 you can see the exhaust on the back
@@CarlosGarcia-ze6rt So the one on the side is a wastegate then? Or what?
@@MDDeGrande1994 where do you see a side exhaust?😅
No one likes a cheat! Solid car my friend had one, once tuned seriously capable however it was a bit skitty on the limit and cramped inside. I much prefer driving 96 STI.
Toyota cheats in Rally
Volkswagen: hold my emissions
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dieselgate-rally ?! ;)
Fantastic video 👍
Waiting for EsCos video!
This car is my favorite WRC car of all time. The next-gen body KILLED the Celica forever. 😔
Love your content. Keep it coming. :)
Brilliant video. Thankyou
Thank You.
Good vid,i prefer the pop-up headlights i think of the st185,cute hehe
Comunque con la flangia da 34 (dopo quella farlocca) era quella con il motore più coppioso... ricordo uno start al millemiglia 96 di pianezzola o dallavilla da paura, 30 secondi... 20 accensione bang 54321 io ero li da parte le gomme hanno strappato l asfalto.. le altre non scattavano cosi
Such a great car..