I can't tell if its depressing or not that most people, myself included seemed to have completely missed a huge chunk of story lmao. You are highlighting so much detail and story that has been right in front of us the whole time...
i wouldn't blame yourself. if this (great) video essay series shows anything, it's the extent to which MGSV's plot was presented as a series of intelligence briefings. you're not exactly going to soak up a plot delivered through RAND corporation reports read aloud on tape cassette. it's actually crazy how hands-off this approach is compared to the rest of the series. instead of pivotal plot turning points being delivered in the most direct manner possible, events actually "experienced" by you just as much as your player character, via gameplay or cutscene (think the 4th-wall breaks of Psycho Mantis or Colonel's I Need Scissors 61) key turns of the plot car are delivered in a pre or post-mission briefing. "boss, we did some digging". "boss, we received a report from the guy." "boss, i just realized something - i've never seen Cheems and Doge in the same place at the same time. we've seen shadow investors go long on CheemsCoin, hoping that when Doge's links to ISIS are revealed and he's publicly discredited, the stock will experience a huge pump - but what if Doge and Cheems are the same doge? that would mean the terror plot we foiled was really just a false flag operation to tank the cute dog related cryptocurrency market, eliminating MSF's base of funding and" you, big boss, are just sitting there. uh huh, uh huh. ok. where's this helicopter droppin' me off?
This is exactly why i gave up arguing with people who say “MGSV has no story”, “it’s story was barebones”, “waaaaaaan No cutscenes”. Majority of people weren’t even paying attention or listening to the tapes etc.
@@999a0s exactly right. Even mgs 4s convoluted and bloated story was easier to follow because of the cut scenes. The tapes being an exposition dump was a huge reason why mgsV was a one and done playthrough for me as opposed to all the rest. I just didn't care
@@SageofSorrow The most intricate and nuanced story in the world is useless if it's presented terribly. Many of these conversations are either missable or they come in while you're in the middle of sneaking/combat. Your attention is divided explicitly by the game's design. It doesn't WANT you to pay attention to Miller droning on into your ear, ESPECIALLY when it's trained you to ignore Miller because he constantly says shit like "BAUSS, He's coming too?" or "BAUSS, you destroyed their anti-air radar?"
I, and im sure we all, really appreciate the effort you put in and how you offer your original thoughts/opinions. Instead of just reading straight from the wiki or just reading transcriptions of the dialogue in the game and explaining things we already know, like other channels I've seen do. You take it to the next level and put in the effort my brother, especially on the aesthetic front. Respect
I always told people since day one that MGSV is not your typical "Emotional story"...it's an interprettional one where you have to analyze and understand it (Pretty similar to 2001: A Space Odyssey) but people always attacked me and refused to do any analysis of the story for the past years. Glad more and more people are waking up about MGSV.
@@Miyakolover time to time, I wonder, "did the game, which literally made the player see a bathing Quiet up close with Ocelot and other soldiers watching, really carry that much depth?
@@ishdoot So are we going to ignore all the scenes in the game that has depth and just focus on an easter egg scene that's not story related? XP The sad matter of fact is that people really focus on the "negatives" and bloat them and don't care for the positives...which is what I usually see with those dismissing MGSV.
@@Miyakolover The game's writing is not good enough to support the ideas presented. Tons of incoherences , horrible pacing . But you can have a great time going for s rank on every mission , using the " special " suits , getting all objectives.
@@zoisantonopoulos7999 I respectfully disagree; the story for me is a great interpretational story that requires you to analyze it and come up with your interpretations of the events; to me it's like 2001: A Space Odyssey...It's not the conventional emotional story; but rather it's a thinker's movie that requires you to come up with your own interpretations and understanding. MGSV in my opinion is a misunderstood masterpiece because it doesn't do the conventional emotional story (which is different compared to other games in the series.
@@IvaikinInsights I meant that, as far as I am aware, Venom Snake never called Liquid inferior. Though, granted, Liquid could just be THAT delusional and reading a huge amount into nothing comments (Venom: "Hello"; Liquid: "HOW DARE YOU!")
@@Gadget-Walkmen It might be referring to how everything that happened in mgsv, is just a ruse or a very very elaborate scheme made by "cipher" to solidify Big Boss' legend once more. To fool their enemies into thinking that Big Boss is instantly on his feet and making moves in Africa, while also tricking/convincing Venom Snake that he is the Big Boss. Note that while all of this is happening, Big Boss is still recovering so they needed someone to take his place.
@@Gadget-Walkmen The game is basically MGS2's S3 plan, where all of society can be manipulated and shaped by carefully selecting what information is passed on. It's highly implied that the Patriot AI's are already active and are the true clients that give Diamond Dogs their missions so that they can stomp out the rogue branch of their organization, Skullface and XOF just like they would eventually do to Raiden to stop Solidus. They do this not by giving missions that just say go kill Skullface and stop his parasites and Metal Gear, but through subtle manipulation and information control that leads Diamond Dogs to that conclusion themselves. Examples like the mission to kill the Soviet Commander because he's leading scorched earth attacks on the Mujahedeen turn out that he has never ordered it, we later learn it was Skullface covering his tracks on parasite tests by burning down the villages and bodies. We can then theorize that the point of the mission wasn't just killing the Soviet Commander but learning this information something that happens again we rescue Malak and that Miller himself theorizes after rescuing him. (though Miller comes to the wrong conclusion mistakenly believing it's just because Cipher wanted to silence him and not just learning about the parasites)
@@lipailong2 well that's the funny thing about war and combat in general. Going out into a deployment or a theater of war, you have to keep your world small and getting into the nitty gritty details of alliances, logistics, and intelligence is too much for any warfighter especially someone in special operations which deals with being the tip of the spear in some way or another, whether it's a "door kicker" or "raider" like the SEALS , Marine Raiders, and Rangers to reconnaissance units like Force Recon, Special Recon (Air Force) to support units like Combat Controllers and Tactical Air Control . It's about just doing the mission and getting it done and from what I've heard personally and read, it all just blends together
mgs5 has a lot of memorable and important info/story for the whole overall metal gear cannon. the gameplay and real life drama ruined it though which is why its easy to forget it had a point.
33:06 why does everyone forget this moment in the game? Everyone I talk to about this game complains that BB doesn't go evil/nuclear and we still don't get to see his transformation into the villain of MG2. I was actually shocked when Superbunny Hop, one of my favorite content creators on this website, referred to Venom Snake as "saving" orphans rather than using child soldiers like the BB in MG2 as an example of VS being a "good guy". But like, in this game he pretty much says "these kids are good fighters, we should give em a shot" and it's only Kaz that protests and insists they be allowed a normal life. VS even makes fun of him for this, chiding him with the line "so what, we running a daycare center now?" At the end of the day Venom will go along with Miller, because Miller is the one who truly runs Motherbase, but if it wasn't for him he'd put those kids out on the front lines for SURE
I think what he meant bY that was that he'd train the kids till they grow up and only then send out But mæbe not Either wæ, both are pretty bad decisions But in the end, ig he went along with Kaz's idea
@@it6647 That would still be pretty horribly fucked up, and that's also exactly what Big Boss does in Metal Gear 2. He says to snake about the child soldiers in zanzibarr land: "You saw those children didn't you? Everyone of them is a victim of a war somewhere in the world, and they'll make fine soldiers in the ones to come. Star a war... fan its flames... create victims, then train them, feed them and serve them back onto the battlefield. It's a perfectly logical system." Even if Venom Snake wasn't actively using child soldiers in the same way that chico was used for some operations, Snake saved those kids to raise them into soldiers as soon as they were old enough. Kaz was the only reason they had even a sliver of a chance of a normal life, or at least as normal as it can be being raised by a bunch of private mercenaries who are led by two extremely angry gay dudes who are bitter because they can no longer wrestle in the showers like they used to. lol The whole Diamond Dogs model is based off of slavery, kidnapping, and brainwashing. It's super fucked up when you think about it, but goddamn do I love making motherbase grow.
@@Glassandcandy It’s even more fucked up when I started to don’t care about killing low ranks soldiers and selecting only the high ranks for my Mother Base
These child soldiers were already bread for combat And already have ptsd They need the battlefield to live They could never live normal lives, you see that on the rig and the cut mission. They never settled
@@microwave4928 so what are you saying? That it’s fine to just feed them back on to the battlefield? That you shouldn’t try to rehabilitate child soldiers so they can have as normal a life as possible? Do you feel that way about actual child soldiers? Because plenty of IRL children who have been abused through war and have been forced to fight have been successfully treated and live healthy lives. Some have even written books on their experience and why it’s important to treat these children with the same care and attention you to would to any other child facing any other type of abuse. Maybe I’m extrapolating too far into your comment, but the implication here is disconcerting to me.
Being a Dutchmen from The Netherlands hearing those soldiers in Africa speaking Afrikaans is hilarious. I don't even need to extract the translater because I can understand what they're saying 🤣🤣
Would've been nice to return to Cuba at that point. After Eli fucks everything up, Skull Face flees to Camp Omega (now changed and vastly expanded). OKB Zero was good, but not final level material.
@@timekeeper2538 Episode 51 only wrapped up a shitty side plot. Also, that's not what I mean with "final level material". I'm talking about a final military base to infiltrate akin to Camp Omega instead of OKB zero in episode 30. Episode 51 is just a boss fight on some island.
@@user-ip3fs9sc5b Actually that island was it's own unique map, made exclusively for "Kingdom of the Flies". The player would've had to sneak past child soldiers and the white hazmat XOF soldiers all the while watching out for traps like in Snake Eater's forests, it would've all been very nice.
@@timekeeper2538 sounds fun, but it's still not what I'd expect from a final level. Much more grand to sneak through a heavily fortified military base than past a couple of huts in a forest.
I like how Kojima used TPP's open world to craft a novel non-linear mystery and it went entirely over people's head. The man is ahead of his time to a fault.
Isn't the real story that four years later we are going back to this game trying to decipher it? I was disappointed about both mgsV's and DS' simplistic ending. I wonder if there is a similar layer to DS.
Holy shit what a twisting turning story. So much of this was lost on me during my play through. These videos really highlight how impressive this game is.
Theres an abandoned underground nuclear testing site in south africa that is mentioned a couple of times, abandoned to evidence to the rest of the world that the south African government has given up its nuclear program. I'm pretty sure this is the site that has been appropriated by the real Big Boss during the events of TPP, where he us establishing Outer Heaven. Its weird, as soon as I saw the prominence of South Africa in the central african part of MGSV I felt sure that it was going to end up connecting up with Outer Heaven, but it never happened. Seems like a wasted opportunity
Dude, good catch. I know what you're referring to but I never made that connection but it totally makes sense. Seems like all the really interesting story in this game is just as clandestine and hidden as the shadowy organizations Big Boss is running lol, then again, maybe that's part of the point?
The story of these games are incredible, everything, every last bit is either in reference or relevant to the plot in some way. Kojima and the writers created a masterpiece with MGS.
These videos are severely underrated with how well put together and clear they are. I finished MGSV a few months ago and have been processing it still since, yet these video's clearly lay it all out and make more sense than the other sources out there. I can't wait for Part III !!
I literally found and watched part one an hour before this went live. I thought "I should sub to this guy for when he comes out with a part two." Well what do you know?
How can Kojima fit so much info in his head? His own story, political commentary, world history...guy has crafted such a universe of geopolitical tensions that make Shirow Masamune look like an amateur. That man is a treasure.
I think it’s more a case of him relating a fictional interpretation of what he sees in the world, If you ever try writing fiction you’ll realise you can’t make anything up from nothing, For example if I say say something funny, your mind will go blank, because without parameters to work off you have infinity/oblivion to work with, Kojima would have to see real interactions, or interpret real life a certain way to write the way he does, everything in metal gear solid might be fictional, but it’s got to have been based on something true It gets crazier when you apply this principle to things like religions, Easy to see gods and religions as primitive thinking, but how would someone arrive at that conclusion and then be motivated enough to write stories about gods and spirits, and write so well that those stories endured longer than languages themselves
@@jackp492exactly, the amount of gods attributed to lightning,fire, forests and later on when human relations get complicated, to deceit are just mind boggling when you think about it.
I was literally watching part one an hour ago. I was hopping a part to would com sometime this month. In the meantime I was enjoying other mgs videos in the channel. Thanks you.
I'm pretty sure he left that out of the video on purpose, as the pigs head is more of a reference to BB in the context of what's happening in the story. Not just some book shout out.
That's just it though. He's not entirely discussing just the references but why they exist. The pig reference is obvious. But why does Pig Boss matter?
@@LithFox exactly!! the best part about this analysis from Futura is the fact that is is in world story based only.. not an explanation of all the out of world real world references
Ngl half the stuff this man just enlightened me on went right past my head and I'm sure it did for mostly everyone here as well. But I still enjoyed watching.
Fantastic video series. I'm convinced more than ever that the game's underlying plots were deliberately designed to be easily missed and overlooked. People typically play MGS titles for the "big" moments in the narrative, for the lengthy cutscenes that spell out things in excruciating detail. That's what the series is known for. And while some of this does exist in MGSV, the plot is considerably murkier, again by design. The "big" moments are few and far in between. The player, much like the confused "Big Boss" we play through the game, muddles from one mission to the next, searching for a payoff the game staunchly refuses to give, and was never designed for to begin with. It all boils down to "Big Boss" being played from almost every angle. Even more frustrating to players is the fact that many of these details are not easily learned about during a fresh playthrough of the game. You lack interpreters, resources, and general knowledge of your objectives. Many optional objectives don't even get listed until we replay a mission, and some deal with many plot critical details that we would otherwise be completely ignorant about. "Big Boss" in MGSV is a victim and a pawn of people who are playing a completely different game from the rest of us. As players, we experience first hand the level of control and obfuscation that Major Zero helped engineer. We also see how it spiraled so far out of control that he sought to replace the corruptible "human factors" with AI, which influence the events of MGS2 and 4. What is wild about all this is that EVEN WITH the unfinished hunt for Eli taken into account, as satisfying as all that would have been, players would still have been in the dark about all of this stuff. From our allies within Mother Base, to the very mission briefings themselves, you still have a story that is written deliberately to withhold details from us. We're still pawns, and the most we can hope for are small victories here and there.
Truth be told, I was interested in the background lore, but I am not gonna stare at the menu for hours listening to audio logs. The story of this game is interesting, but the way it is told leaves a lot to be desired.
@@kabeltelevizio There are important details that aren't even in the tapes. They're in the dialogue between guards and important mission NPCs, things most players (myself absolutely included because I'm bad at this game) missed because I didn't sit around and let people talk (because I was setting off alerts and investigations left and right).
@@cmdrfokker Expo dumps handed to the player this way is not good storytelling. The game should make sure the player actually hears these, like in Arkham games for example.
@@kabeltelevizio The Arkham games aren't known for being particularly well written stories. Just because something is laid out in before the player doesn't make it great. Hell, MGS4 was more of a movie than a game at times, and it had extensive exposition dumps and cutscenes that tried to piece everything together for the player... and people still came away from it confused. Others flat out didn't like the plot outside of the pretty obvious nostalgia bait. This isn't to say that MGSV's approach is automatically better. But it IS a deliberate choice for the game to be presented the way it is. Kojima pretty clearly wanted players to not have every piece of information up front. He wanted players to be searching for something that wasn't going to be there. He wanted to undercut our triumphs in missions with contradictory intel and events. How many times were we sent out for a particular objective, only to find out that things weren't as they initially appeared to be in the mission briefings?
@@cmdrfokker Please note, I didn't say good story, I said good storytelling. I think the main plot of MGSV is pretty mediocre, with one dimensional characters and very little development. But Enslaved: Odyssey to the West, Borderlands2, Arkham games, Saints Row games all had very simple plots with one dimensional characters, but the way their story was told (perhaps with cutscenes, unique character moments, well written dialogue, gameplay moments etc) elevated their narrative. MGSV has some good cinematography, some nice quotes and a few good ideas here and there, but storytelling hidden behind layers of menus or spoken by soldiers we likely never meet is not good, since it's almost the equivalent of not having those storypieces at all. An argument could be made that those pieces are there for multiple playthroughs. Sure, I guess, I am not a fond of design like that, especially in games that try to emulate movies and movie narratives (like MGSV). I brought up Arkham games, because there, the dialogue of NPCs feels like something you just overhear randomIy, even though the designers place those there in a way that missing them would be very difficult. I see what you mean under deliberate vagueness, but I am not sure Kojima was striving for that, after all, you can cover up writing errors by saying, "it deliberately keeps the players in the dark". It feels a bit odd that a game so hell bent on showing big character moments through grandiose, elaborate cutscenes with music and effects is intentionally hiding a lot of important information. Maybe it's just me.
Just finished part one and all your mgs videos including the tapes seires, i thought id be waiting for this like a month or something. You fucking rule dude.
Just a small note that in-universe now the radome which Sahelanthropus uses is a required optional part to ZEKE in PW which is needed in order to trigger the true ending. Anyhow wonderful video as always! Glad to be supporting great content!
Honestly you make some amazing high quality analyses of these games, it’s completely fantastic to watch. I’m glad I could see the production of this series as it’s being made and I hope that people in the future appreciate it for what it’s worth
These videos are amazing! I’ve seen so many dissect the themes of the game but yours actually focuses on this crazy narrative! So many things that I didn’t pick up or realise now make sense. Keep it up!
The guy quiet stabs in the teeth was actually the suspicious MGO member we rescue along with the female. Both English speakers. When rescuing the female, she warns about the male. I believe he is the original person who infected motherbase and was undercover XOF
Just want to say the level of research, historical analogy and pure quality you put into these combined with your output rate is INSANE, thanks so much for making a week of work pass in an instant!
I love how the mgs lore has so many twist and turns that it makes it stand the test of time which allows videos like this find more and more details that most wouldn't see
It's interesting to think that the staff member in Root Cause is also infected with some sort of parasite since that echoes the idea in an earlier video about Paz also being infected at Camp Omega. Both of them act and talk strangely and are set up to be able to flee and, if it was Code Talker himself who infected our guy so as to get us to come rescue him, both function as pawns for Cipher to use to position Snake where they want him. Just more evidence that just about every single thing across all three of the last games were part of a plan.
this series has really shown me the level of complexity in the story through in game storytelling thats only found out through completely optional means and its blowing my mind. keep of the great work dude.
Hey Boss , hard to say this without spewing a long winded story , but I was 8 when I first played as solid snake , now over 20years later and a random UA-cam recommendation brought me to your channel a few months ago and brought the memories all flooding back. Resulting in me demolishing ground zeroes and pp. I feel sorry for kids these days..will they ever experience a game like mgs98 , in the context as we did as children , a different time , even a different world! Your right in many ways mgs98 was the first real video game ever and we were lucky to experience that. Well that was a long way of saying can't wait for the third episode but there it was. Much thanks and appreciation for all your works , untill next time Boss.
Congratulations on the way you make your videos, especially for the fact that it doesn't match the other channels when it comes to simply reading any random Fandom, the game's own phrases and repeating what the game's cassettes say. Thank you for making this series of videos demonstrating how comprehensive the socio-political-economic context of MGSV is. This clearly demonstrates that the game remains faithful to that aspect that is actually the essence of the Saga, which is the historical, political, economic, social, philosophical and so on. Clearly, the game has preserved its essence.
Part 1 just appeared on my feed for recommended and I couldn’t be happier to stumbled upon it. Love these two videos for the series. I can’t wait to see move form these series and watch your other videos as well!
32:30 Yeah uh, no shit, that’s what a lot of mercenary’s do in general, private forces or not, they still love the color green, and sometimes, that causes them to take jobs they might not agree with, but hey, they’ll be a bit richer afterwards
I really appreciate you making these videos. MGSV is a game I learned to love in spite of its story rather than because of it. It was presented as a disjointed mess unless you knew exactly where to look in exactly which missions. This and the previous video explained a lot of what I thought might be the case, but couldn't prove or understand to a comfortable level. Thanks for the hard work.
Great analysis! It's awesome to see someone approach this meaty material with a close eye. I see far too many opinions saying MGSV's story was either minimal or bad and this shows the opposite!
Isn't the real story that four years later we are going back to this game, trying to decipher it and finding a wealth of info? I was disappointed about both mgsV's and DS' simplistic ending. I wonder if there is a similar layer to DS.
@@teahousereloaded perhaps for some people. I was somewhat confused by MGSV when it came out but still loved it. As far as Death Stranding goes, I was far less confused and walked away feeling much more satiated.
It's unfinished is what the story is. The lore, subtext, rich thematic elements and detailed world building sometimes distract you from that fact but yeah the story contains little meaningful resolution. And adding in the lost episode doesn't make it that much better either. I blame Konami for this.
You are the best Metal Gear video creator on UA-cam. Hands down. As a long time fan of the series, it's so good to see someone who actually understands it all.
My dude these videos are so good. The dedication you put into these videos are nothing short of awesome. I literally only listened to a small handful of cassettes through my 2 play through a of v, and the only ones I remember just because of how absurd they were, were all the hamburger ones.
HELLL YESSSSSSS PART 2!!!!! I honestly can't remember the last time I was so pumped for a series to come out, maybe back in the day when like season 3 GOT was going on. This stuff rullles, and is hard to follow but intellectually satisfying and almost gluttonous lol. So goood
Great video, the one thing i would add though; as other comments have said the pigs head on stakes with flies around them is a direct reference to lord of the flies. But Eli's character is also very similar as well. he's pretty much a 1;1 of Jack from the book (he's the leader, he stakes the pig's head, he's blonde). Also in a random trip back to mother base Kaz tells the boss that a boy called Ralph was killed by a falling pipe. In the book Ralph is Jack's adversary and Jack attempts to kill him multiple times, Kaz suggests later that maybe Ralph's death was the thing that kicked the uprising of kids off so it's pretty obvious Eli is at fault. Kojima references Lord of the Flies and Moby Dick a lot so i think a key to understanding MGSV are those two books
my theory this whole time is that you aren't being made to replace the boss as much as you are replacing Skull Face himself. you aquire all his weird shit, weapons etc, and you just exist to clean up messes.
Thank you so much for this man. This helps so much. Appreciate all the effort for this so much man. Just recently finished the game and you have answered most, if not all the questions I had. Looking for the next one. Great work, boss!
I wish that instead of an open world game they made mini open world maps like camp omega but for MGSV instead. Anyways so happy you made part two! Been binging your videos and I gotta day I loved your last of us 2 analysis. So many layers in these type of games.
Your devotion and dedication to this series is astounding! There's still so much content on this channel I haven't seen yet, and it's an absolute joy going through it all.
i appreciate the effort kojima and his team put into trying to present the story in an unconventional way, immersing the player even further in the world and putting us in the shoes of venom himself. however, videos like this that show information that 99% of players never noticed really stress how the game could've executed this form of story telling so much better. i truly think MGS V wouldn't have had such a bad reputation story-wise if it was presented in a more traditional way.
Awesome! I understood the story when I played it, but not as in-depth as explained in these videos. Love learning more TPP lore. Looking forward to Part 3!
This is a great breakdown of everything, the plot of V is super complex and without the cutscenes to spell it out for the player a whole lot can be lost. I can't wait to see the rest!
Damn, I started a playthrough a few weeks ago and you just reminded me to pick it up. I still remember my first playthrough all the way back in 2015... what a great game.
One thing I like about Eli in this game is that he hates snake and wants to best him in combat throughout the game. Then eli gains control of the metal gear and still looses to big boss lol.
FINALLY, someone actually analyzes the historical and colonial context of V's story! I've always been chaffed that people ignore that aspect of the story when it is CENTRAL to the game's overall themes/meaning. I'm working on my own video essay about this game that critiques it largely from a postcolonial interpretation, with emphasis on the themes of language using some of Spivak's ideas. I thought I was gonna be the first one on youtube to seriously talk about the geo-political themes the game is juggling but you beat me to it! I've still got some unique tricks up my sleaves however,.... if I ever get this damn project finished that is lol
I've been working on a video that directly goes there, I've just been nervous about putting it out. Not sure people are ready to hear what this game was actually about, when it comes to stuff like the child soldiers, the proxy wars, the blood diamonds and conflict minerals, the slave trade etc. Here's wishing both of us good luck, Boss! I recommend looking into the history of the Kikongo (or Kongo) language.
Oh my god FIFTY MINUTES? You fucking spoil us with such amounts of great content oh lord. The first MGS game I actually ever played was The Phantom Pain, and it left me with so many questions/unresolved feelings, your videos on the game series have really helped clear a lot of it up as well as make me look at it in a bigger picture in its reflections of our real world.
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Enemies: talking about critical Intel
Quiet: HMhmHMHMHMHmmHmmmHm
This needs more likes
I also love how they just keep conversing all the while they're targeted by an obvious green laser.
Yeah I hate that ungodly noise she makes, it sounds like a pack of geese honking
Just saw this comment and at the same time the Szene accrued haha
@@Kasyo what
I can't tell if its depressing or not that most people, myself included seemed to have completely missed a huge chunk of story lmao. You are highlighting so much detail and story that has been right in front of us the whole time...
i wouldn't blame yourself. if this (great) video essay series shows anything, it's the extent to which MGSV's plot was presented as a series of intelligence briefings. you're not exactly going to soak up a plot delivered through RAND corporation reports read aloud on tape cassette. it's actually crazy how hands-off this approach is compared to the rest of the series. instead of pivotal plot turning points being delivered in the most direct manner possible, events actually "experienced" by you just as much as your player character, via gameplay or cutscene (think the 4th-wall breaks of Psycho Mantis or Colonel's I Need Scissors 61) key turns of the plot car are delivered in a pre or post-mission briefing.
"boss, we did some digging". "boss, we received a report from the guy." "boss, i just realized something - i've never seen Cheems and Doge in the same place at the same time. we've seen shadow investors go long on CheemsCoin, hoping that when Doge's links to ISIS are revealed and he's publicly discredited, the stock will experience a huge pump - but what if Doge and Cheems are the same doge? that would mean the terror plot we foiled was really just a false flag operation to tank the cute dog related cryptocurrency market, eliminating MSF's base of funding and"
you, big boss, are just sitting there. uh huh, uh huh. ok. where's this helicopter droppin' me off?
This is exactly why i gave up arguing with people who say “MGSV has no story”, “it’s story was barebones”, “waaaaaaan No cutscenes”. Majority of people weren’t even paying attention or listening to the tapes etc.
@@999a0s exactly right. Even mgs 4s convoluted and bloated story was easier to follow because of the cut scenes. The tapes being an exposition dump was a huge reason why mgsV was a one and done playthrough for me as opposed to all the rest. I just didn't care
@@SageofSorrow The most intricate and nuanced story in the world is useless if it's presented terribly.
Many of these conversations are either missable or they come in while you're in the middle of sneaking/combat. Your attention is divided explicitly by the game's design. It doesn't WANT you to pay attention to Miller droning on into your ear, ESPECIALLY when it's trained you to ignore Miller because he constantly says shit like "BAUSS, He's coming too?" or "BAUSS, you destroyed their anti-air radar?"
@@Gabthar lol. Why?
I, and im sure we all, really appreciate the effort you put in and how you offer your original thoughts/opinions. Instead of just reading straight from the wiki or just reading transcriptions of the dialogue in the game and explaining things we already know, like other channels I've seen do. You take it to the next level and put in the effort my brother, especially on the aesthetic front. Respect
yes i struggled keeping up with the story. This clears up a lot of questions
I was waiting for a "but" 😂
@@THIS---GUY
naaaaahhhh
100% it made me realize i really didnt pay much attention to what was going on story-wise, I was just as clueless as venom snake
Hate watching those kind of videos, like I've read the wiki already, I don't need someone to read it to me again.
Boss, you killed a child... Amazing! Mission complete. That right there is why you're the best, boss.
"the one and only... " hahahahahaha
Kazuhira "Kikingo Killer" Miller
@@tastychunks Kazuhira "Fulton a coon, I'll shoot the balloon" Miller
Every 2 months, I learn something new about MGSV. Man, this never stops. There is so much passive narrative in this game.
I always told people since day one that MGSV is not your typical "Emotional story"...it's an interprettional one where you have to analyze and understand it (Pretty similar to 2001: A Space Odyssey) but people always attacked me and refused to do any analysis of the story for the past years.
Glad more and more people are waking up about MGSV.
@@Miyakolover time to time, I wonder, "did the game, which literally made the player see a bathing Quiet up close with Ocelot and other soldiers watching, really carry that much depth?
@@ishdoot So are we going to ignore all the scenes in the game that has depth and just focus on an easter egg scene that's not story related? XP
The sad matter of fact is that people really focus on the "negatives" and bloat them and don't care for the positives...which is what I usually see with those dismissing MGSV.
@@Miyakolover The game's writing is not good enough to support the ideas presented. Tons of incoherences , horrible pacing . But you can have a great time going for s rank on every mission , using the " special " suits , getting all objectives.
@@zoisantonopoulos7999 I respectfully disagree; the story for me is a great interpretational story that requires you to analyze it and come up with your interpretations of the events; to me it's like 2001: A Space Odyssey...It's not the conventional emotional story; but rather it's a thinker's movie that requires you to come up with your own interpretations and understanding.
MGSV in my opinion is a misunderstood masterpiece because it doesn't do the conventional emotional story (which is different compared to other games in the series.
The pig head thing is a nod to lord of the flies. The "missing chapter" is probably building on that symbolism as well.
It’s not a missing chapter as per say It was always meant to be dlc
Still stupid they didn’t just finish it after
He also had a conch; really good reference
It's on mgs survive
@@microwave4928 imagine, 9 years after release, the dlc finally releases
Did liquid ever meet the real big boss? Or did he die chasing the dream of a phantom?
Well, he says that Big Boss always told him that he was inferior, so presumably at some point he did.
@@jonathancampbell5231 Big Boss said to Venom that now on they both are Big Boss. So it is still could be Venom.
@@IvaikinInsights I meant that, as far as I am aware, Venom Snake never called Liquid inferior.
Though, granted, Liquid could just be THAT delusional and reading a huge amount into nothing comments (Venom: "Hello"; Liquid: "HOW DARE YOU!")
I feel like he never met big boss and he was just gas lighted his entire life
@@BaeBunni What do you mean by "his entire life"? He barely knew Venom Snake either.
I'm glad to see comments that are 4 hours ago instead of 4 years ago, I'm glad people are still keeping big bosses legacy and the game itself alive
Yeah thats one of the best parts of these videos
Same. Whenever I look the game up it always playthroughs from launch, it’s quite sad really.
Konami could've made dlc about chapter 3 to keep gamers engaged but I hope they are working on mgs vi fall of big boss
@@mrnobody4792 they could've at least done that before killing the series with metal gear survive
@Fort Kumisa Konami doesn’t have any good talent left to continue MGS let alone make a proper MGS game.
MGSV: *exists*
Cipher: It's just a social experiment, bro.
What? What do you mean?
@@Gadget-Walkmen It might be referring to how everything that happened in mgsv, is just a ruse or a very very elaborate scheme made by "cipher" to solidify Big Boss' legend once more. To fool their enemies into thinking that Big Boss is instantly on his feet and making moves in Africa, while also tricking/convincing Venom Snake that he is the Big Boss. Note that while all of this is happening, Big Boss is still recovering so they needed someone to take his place.
@@Gadget-Walkmen The game is basically MGS2's S3 plan, where all of society can be manipulated and shaped by carefully selecting what information is passed on. It's highly implied that the Patriot AI's are already active and are the true clients that give Diamond Dogs their missions so that they can stomp out the rogue branch of their organization, Skullface and XOF just like they would eventually do to Raiden to stop Solidus. They do this not by giving missions that just say go kill Skullface and stop his parasites and Metal Gear, but through subtle manipulation and information control that leads Diamond Dogs to that conclusion themselves. Examples like the mission to kill the Soviet Commander because he's leading scorched earth attacks on the Mujahedeen turn out that he has never ordered it, we later learn it was Skullface covering his tracks on parasite tests by burning down the villages and bodies. We can then theorize that the point of the mission wasn't just killing the Soviet Commander but learning this information something that happens again we rescue Malak and that Miller himself theorizes after rescuing him. (though Miller comes to the wrong conclusion mistakenly believing it's just because Cipher wanted to silence him and not just learning about the parasites)
@@cooppp that’s one interesting point to think about things!
I don't know why I never considered that MGS V actually took its elaborate military conceits this seriously...
Same here I always played the story and ignored all these little details but the story has always been much bigger
Because the repetitive gameplay and mission structure results in a lot of the game being pretty forgettable.
@@lipailong2 well that's the funny thing about war and combat in general. Going out into a deployment or a theater of war, you have to keep your world small and getting into the nitty gritty details of alliances, logistics, and intelligence is too much for any warfighter especially someone in special operations which deals with being the tip of the spear in some way or another, whether it's a "door kicker" or "raider" like the SEALS , Marine Raiders, and Rangers to reconnaissance units like Force Recon, Special Recon (Air Force) to support units like Combat Controllers and Tactical Air Control . It's about just doing the mission and getting it done and from what I've heard personally and read, it all just blends together
mgs5 has a lot of memorable and important info/story for the whole overall metal gear cannon. the gameplay and real life drama ruined it though which is why its easy to forget it had a point.
@@lipailong2 change up your play style
33:06 why does everyone forget this moment in the game? Everyone I talk to about this game complains that BB doesn't go evil/nuclear and we still don't get to see his transformation into the villain of MG2. I was actually shocked when Superbunny Hop, one of my favorite content creators on this website, referred to Venom Snake as "saving" orphans rather than using child soldiers like the BB in MG2 as an example of VS being a "good guy". But like, in this game he pretty much says "these kids are good fighters, we should give em a shot" and it's only Kaz that protests and insists they be allowed a normal life. VS even makes fun of him for this, chiding him with the line "so what, we running a daycare center now?" At the end of the day Venom will go along with Miller, because Miller is the one who truly runs Motherbase, but if it wasn't for him he'd put those kids out on the front lines for SURE
I think what he meant bY that was that he'd train the kids till they grow up and only then send out
But mæbe not
Either wæ, both are pretty bad decisions
But in the end, ig he went along with Kaz's idea
@@it6647 That would still be pretty horribly fucked up, and that's also exactly what Big Boss does in Metal Gear 2. He says to snake about the child soldiers in zanzibarr land: "You saw those children didn't you? Everyone of them is a victim of a war somewhere in the world, and they'll make fine soldiers in the ones to come. Star a war... fan its flames... create victims, then train them, feed them and serve them back onto the battlefield. It's a perfectly logical system."
Even if Venom Snake wasn't actively using child soldiers in the same way that chico was used for some operations, Snake saved those kids to raise them into soldiers as soon as they were old enough. Kaz was the only reason they had even a sliver of a chance of a normal life, or at least as normal as it can be being raised by a bunch of private mercenaries who are led by two extremely angry gay dudes who are bitter because they can no longer wrestle in the showers like they used to. lol
The whole Diamond Dogs model is based off of slavery, kidnapping, and brainwashing. It's super fucked up when you think about it, but goddamn do I love making motherbase grow.
@@Glassandcandy It’s even more fucked up when I started to don’t care about killing low ranks soldiers and selecting only the high ranks for my Mother Base
These child soldiers were already bread for combat
And already have ptsd
They need the battlefield to live
They could never live normal lives, you see that on the rig and the cut mission.
They never settled
@@microwave4928 so what are you saying? That it’s fine to just feed them back on to the battlefield? That you shouldn’t try to rehabilitate child soldiers so they can have as normal a life as possible? Do you feel that way about actual child soldiers? Because plenty of IRL children who have been abused through war and have been forced to fight have been successfully treated and live healthy lives. Some have even written books on their experience and why it’s important to treat these children with the same care and attention you to would to any other child facing any other type of abuse. Maybe I’m extrapolating too far into your comment, but the implication here is disconcerting to me.
I JUS FINISHED PART 1 what a blessed day
same
I immediately came to write this comment
Wtf i thought i was the only one
i was expecting this to take a month but he smashed it out fast as hell
me too.
Being a Dutchmen from The Netherlands hearing those soldiers in Africa speaking Afrikaans is hilarious. I don't even need to extract the translater because I can understand what they're saying 🤣🤣
... I have to say, I was shocked when it turned out D-Dog was the mastermind all along.
You mean D-Walker?
@@slickcalf985 d-dog was the body double for d-walker
Who was actually a clone of Walker Gear, the perfect gear who's metal pieces needed to be preserved
God, I wish the third area wasn't just.. Afghanistan again. Or at least was somewhere other than Northern Kabul.
Would've been nice to return to Cuba at that point. After Eli fucks everything up, Skull Face flees to Camp Omega (now changed and vastly expanded). OKB Zero was good, but not final level material.
@@user-ip3fs9sc5b Well, final level material would have been Episode 51, so the developers agree.
@@timekeeper2538 Episode 51 only wrapped up a shitty side plot. Also, that's not what I mean with "final level material". I'm talking about a final military base to infiltrate akin to Camp Omega instead of OKB zero in episode 30. Episode 51 is just a boss fight on some island.
@@user-ip3fs9sc5b Actually that island was it's own unique map, made exclusively for "Kingdom of the Flies". The player would've had to sneak past child soldiers and the white hazmat XOF soldiers all the while watching out for traps like in Snake Eater's forests, it would've all been very nice.
@@timekeeper2538 sounds fun, but it's still not what I'd expect from a final level. Much more grand to sneak through a heavily fortified military base than past a couple of huts in a forest.
I like how Kojima used TPP's open world to craft a novel non-linear mystery and it went entirely over people's head. The man is ahead of his time to a fault.
Imagine if he had the time to finish his work and smooth it out a bit better.
@@remusventanus5341 people still would have hated it because some people are just fucking dumb
Isn't the real story that four years later we are going back to this game trying to decipher it? I was disappointed about both mgsV's and DS' simplistic ending. I wonder if there is a similar layer to DS.
In 5 years someone is gonna make sense of the Death Stranding storyline and we’re all gonna feel stupid because it went over all of our heads
@@remusventanus5341 He makes art games that take people out of their confort zones. Hence why people don't like it.
Holy shit what a twisting turning story. So much of this was lost on me during my play through. These videos really highlight how impressive this game is.
It's because the game never presented it's story well.
It presented it through exposition dump, and less through us experiencing.
Theres an abandoned underground nuclear testing site in south africa that is mentioned a couple of times, abandoned to evidence to the rest of the world that the south African government has given up its nuclear program. I'm pretty sure this is the site that has been appropriated by the real Big Boss during the events of TPP, where he us establishing Outer Heaven. Its weird, as soon as I saw the prominence of South Africa in the central african part of MGSV I felt sure that it was going to end up connecting up with Outer Heaven, but it never happened. Seems like a wasted opportunity
Dude, good catch. I know what you're referring to but I never made that connection but it totally makes sense. Seems like all the really interesting story in this game is just as clandestine and hidden as the shadowy organizations Big Boss is running lol, then again, maybe that's part of the point?
Who knows, considering the game wasn't finished that could have happened
@@LoveSickWorld It's finished dude, just because they got one mission out of the game doesn't mean it's not finished.
@@misasuperman actually it was a whole chapter.and much more was planned. But deadlinesssss
@@scottmacadam6599 Third chapter is de-nuclearization. I thought that was debunked long time ago.
36:15 "Dad was such a drag"
So sad it got canceled
Also the pig heads on sticks is a reference to lord of the flies. There are actually a lot of references to ot in MGSV
iirc young liquid also has a shell like in lord of the flies
The story of these games are incredible, everything, every last bit is either in reference or relevant to the plot in some way. Kojima and the writers created a masterpiece with MGS.
These videos are severely underrated with how well put together and clear they are. I finished MGSV a few months ago and have been processing it still since, yet these video's clearly lay it all out and make more sense than the other sources out there. I can't wait for Part III !!
Amazing!
That right there, is why you're the best, Boss!
The one and only!
Welp, time to replay MGSV
I only stopped playing for a year
I still play it regularly it’s a good game
I literally found and watched part one an hour before this went live.
I thought "I should sub to this guy for when he comes out with a part two."
Well what do you know?
How can Kojima fit so much info in his head? His own story, political commentary, world history...guy has crafted such a universe of geopolitical tensions that make Shirow Masamune look like an amateur. That man is a treasure.
Calm down dude. It's honestly just a matter of reading more history books.
@@dandiaz19934 way to rain on this fans parade 🙄
I think it’s more a case of him relating a fictional interpretation of what he sees in the world,
If you ever try writing fiction you’ll realise you can’t make anything up from nothing,
For example if I say say something funny, your mind will go blank, because without parameters to work off you have infinity/oblivion to work with,
Kojima would have to see real interactions, or interpret real life a certain way to write the way he does, everything in metal gear solid might be fictional, but it’s got to have been based on something true
It gets crazier when you apply this principle to things like religions,
Easy to see gods and religions as primitive thinking, but how would someone arrive at that conclusion and then be motivated enough to write stories about gods and spirits, and write so well that those stories endured longer than languages themselves
Check out One Piece. I think you will find a LOT of the same stuff you just mentioned in what Oda has crafted
@@jackp492exactly, the amount of gods attributed to lightning,fire, forests and later on when human relations get complicated, to deceit are just mind boggling when you think about it.
I was literally watching part one an hour ago. I was hopping a part to would com sometime this month. In the meantime I was enjoying other mgs videos in the channel. Thanks you.
The pig heads is a reference to the book, Lord Of The Flies
I'm pretty sure he left that out of the video on purpose, as the pigs head is more of a reference to BB in the context of what's happening in the story. Not just some book shout out.
Mark Andersen Eli also has a conch which is in the book...
@@markanthonyandersen the missing chapter 51 was titled « Kingdom of the Flies »
That's just it though. He's not entirely discussing just the references but why they exist. The pig reference is obvious. But why does Pig Boss matter?
@@LithFox exactly!! the best part about this analysis from Futura is the fact that is is in world story based only.. not an explanation of all the out of world real world references
The viscounts military history appears very similar to simon mann the real life mercenary of executive outcomes
Undone really interesting guy
Wouldn't surprise me if this game took a lot of influence from him
Yeah that immediately rung a bell when he said “worked for the Scottish guard, then went into the SAS”
I absolutely love the fact that piecing the story together requires actually surveiling conversations. For a spy series it's so fitting
I was just recommended part 1 by youtube and then you upload part 2! Your channel is awesome I can't believe I just found it.
underrated top-notch content right here
Ngl half the stuff this man just enlightened me on went right past my head and I'm sure it did for mostly everyone here as well. But I still enjoyed watching.
Fantastic video series. I'm convinced more than ever that the game's underlying plots were deliberately designed to be easily missed and overlooked.
People typically play MGS titles for the "big" moments in the narrative, for the lengthy cutscenes that spell out things in excruciating detail. That's what the series is known for. And while some of this does exist in MGSV, the plot is considerably murkier, again by design. The "big" moments are few and far in between. The player, much like the confused "Big Boss" we play through the game, muddles from one mission to the next, searching for a payoff the game staunchly refuses to give, and was never designed for to begin with.
It all boils down to "Big Boss" being played from almost every angle. Even more frustrating to players is the fact that many of these details are not easily learned about during a fresh playthrough of the game. You lack interpreters, resources, and general knowledge of your objectives. Many optional objectives don't even get listed until we replay a mission, and some deal with many plot critical details that we would otherwise be completely ignorant about.
"Big Boss" in MGSV is a victim and a pawn of people who are playing a completely different game from the rest of us. As players, we experience first hand the level of control and obfuscation that Major Zero helped engineer. We also see how it spiraled so far out of control that he sought to replace the corruptible "human factors" with AI, which influence the events of MGS2 and 4.
What is wild about all this is that EVEN WITH the unfinished hunt for Eli taken into account, as satisfying as all that would have been, players would still have been in the dark about all of this stuff. From our allies within Mother Base, to the very mission briefings themselves, you still have a story that is written deliberately to withhold details from us. We're still pawns, and the most we can hope for are small victories here and there.
Truth be told, I was interested in the background lore, but I am not gonna stare at the menu for hours listening to audio logs. The story of this game is interesting, but the way it is told leaves a lot to be desired.
@@kabeltelevizio There are important details that aren't even in the tapes. They're in the dialogue between guards and important mission NPCs, things most players (myself absolutely included because I'm bad at this game) missed because I didn't sit around and let people talk (because I was setting off alerts and investigations left and right).
@@cmdrfokker Expo dumps handed to the player this way is not good storytelling. The game should make sure the player actually hears these, like in Arkham games for example.
@@kabeltelevizio The Arkham games aren't known for being particularly well written stories. Just because something is laid out in before the player doesn't make it great. Hell, MGS4 was more of a movie than a game at times, and it had extensive exposition dumps and cutscenes that tried to piece everything together for the player... and people still came away from it confused. Others flat out didn't like the plot outside of the pretty obvious nostalgia bait.
This isn't to say that MGSV's approach is automatically better. But it IS a deliberate choice for the game to be presented the way it is. Kojima pretty clearly wanted players to not have every piece of information up front. He wanted players to be searching for something that wasn't going to be there. He wanted to undercut our triumphs in missions with contradictory intel and events. How many times were we sent out for a particular objective, only to find out that things weren't as they initially appeared to be in the mission briefings?
@@cmdrfokker Please note, I didn't say good story, I said good storytelling. I think the main plot of MGSV is pretty mediocre, with one dimensional characters and very little development. But Enslaved: Odyssey to the West, Borderlands2, Arkham games, Saints Row games all had very simple plots with one dimensional characters, but the way their story was told (perhaps with cutscenes, unique character moments, well written dialogue, gameplay moments etc) elevated their narrative. MGSV has some good cinematography, some nice quotes and a few good ideas here and there, but storytelling hidden behind layers of menus or spoken by soldiers we likely never meet is not good, since it's almost the equivalent of not having those storypieces at all. An argument could be made that those pieces are there for multiple playthroughs. Sure, I guess, I am not a fond of design like that, especially in games that try to emulate movies and movie narratives (like MGSV). I brought up Arkham games, because there, the dialogue of NPCs feels like something you just overhear randomIy, even though the designers place those there in a way that missing them would be very difficult. I see what you mean under deliberate vagueness, but I am not sure Kojima was striving for that, after all, you can cover up writing errors by saying, "it deliberately keeps the players in the dark". It feels a bit odd that a game so hell bent on showing big character moments through grandiose, elaborate cutscenes with music and effects is intentionally hiding a lot of important information. Maybe it's just me.
Just finished part one and all your mgs videos including the tapes seires, i thought id be waiting for this like a month or something. You fucking rule dude.
Just a small note that in-universe now the radome which Sahelanthropus uses is a required optional part to ZEKE in PW which is needed in order to trigger the true ending.
Anyhow wonderful video as always! Glad to be supporting great content!
Honestly you make some amazing high quality analyses of these games, it’s completely fantastic to watch. I’m glad I could see the production of this series as it’s being made and I hope that people in the future appreciate it for what it’s worth
These videos are amazing! I’ve seen so many dissect the themes of the game but yours actually focuses on this crazy narrative! So many things that I didn’t pick up or realise now make sense. Keep it up!
The guy quiet stabs in the teeth was actually the suspicious MGO member we rescue along with the female. Both English speakers. When rescuing the female, she warns about the male. I believe he is the original person who infected motherbase and was undercover XOF
This is such an amazing body of work you put together here.
Just want to say the level of research, historical analogy and pure quality you put into these combined with your output rate is INSANE, thanks so much for making a week of work pass in an instant!
I love how the mgs lore has so many twist and turns that it makes it stand the test of time which allows videos like this find more and more details that most wouldn't see
36:28 I loved how Kojima added those transmissions from P.T
It's interesting to think that the staff member in Root Cause is also infected with some sort of parasite since that echoes the idea in an earlier video about Paz also being infected at Camp Omega. Both of them act and talk strangely and are set up to be able to flee and, if it was Code Talker himself who infected our guy so as to get us to come rescue him, both function as pawns for Cipher to use to position Snake where they want him. Just more evidence that just about every single thing across all three of the last games were part of a plan.
This gives me much more appreciation for a story I thought was weak, limited and vague, thankyou!
this series has really shown me the level of complexity in the story through in game storytelling thats only found out through completely optional means and its blowing my mind. keep of the great work dude.
agreed. great stuff!
Thank you for putting such prolific and quality MGS content, especially for MGSV.
Hey Boss , hard to say this without spewing a long winded story , but I was 8 when I first played as solid snake , now over 20years later and a random UA-cam recommendation brought me to your channel a few months ago and brought the memories all flooding back. Resulting in me demolishing ground zeroes and pp. I feel sorry for kids these days..will they ever experience a game like mgs98 , in the context as we did as children , a different time , even a different world! Your right in many ways mgs98 was the first real video game ever and we were lucky to experience that. Well that was a long way of saying can't wait for the third episode but there it was. Much thanks and appreciation for all your works , untill next time Boss.
Congratulations on the way you make your videos, especially for the fact that it doesn't match the other channels when it comes to simply reading any random Fandom, the game's own phrases and repeating what the game's cassettes say. Thank you for making this series of videos demonstrating how comprehensive the socio-political-economic context of MGSV is. This clearly demonstrates that the game remains faithful to that aspect that is actually the essence of the Saga, which is the historical, political, economic, social, philosophical and so on. Clearly, the game has preserved its essence.
Part 1 just appeared on my feed for recommended and I couldn’t be happier to stumbled upon it. Love these two videos for the series. I can’t wait to see move form these series and watch your other videos as well!
Congratulations!! I discovered you with your last video and I loved it ! Thank you so much!
Same boat
Your analysis is top notch! Always look forward to your videos! I’ve never seen MGSV analyzed to this degree
You definitely earned a sub for how in depth and amazing these videos are! Keep up the good work!
32:30 Yeah uh, no shit, that’s what a lot of mercenary’s do in general, private forces or not, they still love the color green, and sometimes, that causes them to take jobs they might not agree with, but hey, they’ll be a bit richer afterwards
I really appreciate you making these videos. MGSV is a game I learned to love in spite of its story rather than because of it. It was presented as a disjointed mess unless you knew exactly where to look in exactly which missions. This and the previous video explained a lot of what I thought might be the case, but couldn't prove or understand to a comfortable level. Thanks for the hard work.
10/10 production quality man. Just subbed and can't wait for part 3. Gonna go binge some of your other stuff now. Keep it up!
Great analysis! It's awesome to see someone approach this meaty material with a close eye.
I see far too many opinions saying MGSV's story was either minimal or bad and this shows the opposite!
Isn't the real story that four years later we are going back to this game, trying to decipher it and finding a wealth of info? I was disappointed about both mgsV's and DS' simplistic ending. I wonder if there is a similar layer to DS.
@@teahousereloaded perhaps for some people. I was somewhat confused by MGSV when it came out but still loved it. As far as Death Stranding goes, I was far less confused and walked away feeling much more satiated.
It doesnt really have much story, but it is very rich in lore.
The story isn't bad, or minimal. It's not presented well.
It's unfinished is what the story is. The lore, subtext, rich thematic elements and detailed world building sometimes distract you from that fact but yeah the story contains little meaningful resolution. And adding in the lost episode doesn't make it that much better either. I blame Konami for this.
Thanks for the video. It’s impressive how much care went into writing and adding all these things that nobody can see in a first playthrough.
Thank you for piecing together all the radio and PF convos, it's easy to miss them or not pay attention
Man, I expected this video to come in like a month, not a week. Keep up the great work man
You know I thought of multiple points I wanted to make.... But this is all that matters:
MGSV fucking rules.
You are the best Metal Gear video creator on UA-cam. Hands down. As a long time fan of the series, it's so good to see someone who actually understands it all.
Funny enough Quiet was one part of the game that still felt like classic Metal gear.
My dude these videos are so good. The dedication you put into these videos are nothing short of awesome. I literally only listened to a small handful of cassettes through my 2 play through a of v, and the only ones I remember just because of how absurd they were, were all the hamburger ones.
HELLL YESSSSSSS PART 2!!!!!
I honestly can't remember the last time I was so pumped for a series to come out, maybe back in the day when like season 3 GOT was going on. This stuff rullles, and is hard to follow but intellectually satisfying and almost gluttonous lol.
So goood
Great video, the one thing i would add though; as other comments have said the pigs head on stakes with flies around them is a direct reference to lord of the flies. But Eli's character is also very similar as well. he's pretty much a 1;1 of Jack from the book (he's the leader, he stakes the pig's head, he's blonde). Also in a random trip back to mother base Kaz tells the boss that a boy called Ralph was killed by a falling pipe. In the book Ralph is Jack's adversary and Jack attempts to kill him multiple times, Kaz suggests later that maybe Ralph's death was the thing that kicked the uprising of kids off so it's pretty obvious Eli is at fault. Kojima references Lord of the Flies and Moby Dick a lot so i think a key to understanding MGSV are those two books
my theory this whole time is that you aren't being made to replace the boss as much as you are replacing Skull Face himself. you aquire all his weird shit, weapons etc, and you just exist to clean up messes.
Ironic considering that Skull Face's job was to clean up any messes the original Big Boss and whatever his missions involved did
@@it6647 yeah, exactly lol
Thank you so much for this man. This helps so much. Appreciate all the effort for this so much man. Just recently finished the game and you have answered most, if not all the questions I had. Looking for the next one. Great work, boss!
I wish that instead of an open world game they made mini open world maps like camp omega but for MGSV instead. Anyways so happy you made part two! Been binging your videos and I gotta day I loved your last of us 2 analysis. So many layers in these type of games.
Your devotion and dedication to this series is astounding! There's still so much content on this channel I haven't seen yet, and it's an absolute joy going through it all.
I just finished mission 46 so this is awesome!
i appreciate the effort kojima and his team put into trying to present the story in an unconventional way, immersing the player even further in the world and putting us in the shoes of venom himself. however, videos like this that show information that 99% of players never noticed really stress how the game could've executed this form of story telling so much better.
i truly think MGS V wouldn't have had such a bad reputation story-wise if it was presented in a more traditional way.
Awesome! I understood the story when I played it, but not as in-depth as explained in these videos. Love learning more TPP lore. Looking forward to Part 3!
This channel should be bigger than it is. Excellent work. Can't wait for future vids.
keep up the great work dude!, you got a new subscriber for sure, time to see the video now x)
This is a great breakdown of everything, the plot of V is super complex and without the cutscenes to spell it out for the player a whole lot can be lost. I can't wait to see the rest!
Just noticed that viscount is definitely based off Simon Mann Scots Guard SAS then helped create executive outcomes in mgsv case CFA
Dude this was so good! I am sooooo glad your video came up on my feed. I just can't get enough of MGS V
There's just so much I never noticed happening around me during hundreds of hours of play.
41:30 it is just a usual Kojima histrionic screaming "I KNOW WHAT LORD OF THE FLIES IS" .
Damn, I started a playthrough a few weeks ago and you just reminded me to pick it up. I still remember my first playthrough all the way back in 2015... what a great game.
To be honest you deserve so much more subscribers than you have right now due to how much time and effort you put in to ALL of your videos
One thing I like about Eli in this game is that he hates snake and wants to best him in combat throughout the game. Then eli gains control of the metal gear and still looses to big boss lol.
Great videos man keep up the hard work, didn't realize how much nuance was actually in the game. Looking forward to part 3
Good god this guys channel is literally my bread and butter. Keep it up!
Dude! The views! The subs! What Even Happens in Futurasound Productions? NOTHING BUT EXCELLENCE! So freaking happy for ya man.
“Death to the MPLA”
Yo I just discovered your channel with part one today, thank you for this upload!
I just get recommended part one and find out part 2 just came out sweet!
Really like this series. Also its not getting shorter each episode but infact more interesting and longer svery time.
When you see that (1) in the upper right corner, you just know it's your boy futurasound
Just when I thought I had this figured out, you had to go and drop this UNBELIEVABLE video. So chalk-full of amazing. Bro. Fantastic. Just incredible.
“…..you’re gonna extract him?”
usually as you're extracting an S++ soldier for some reason. acting like you extracted the one soldier in the squad that eats crayons.
I love how u break this beautiful game down to explain what questions we might have asked ourselves
Please do something like this with ground zeros and other metal gears too
At around the same time, Alex Mason, Jason Hudson, and Jonas Savimbi were fighting the MPLA and another meme of their own was born....
This is great stuff right here on mgs v
I’ve been waiting for this! Since I saw part one. Badass video
FINALLY, someone actually analyzes the historical and colonial context of V's story! I've always been chaffed that people ignore that aspect of the story when it is CENTRAL to the game's overall themes/meaning. I'm working on my own video essay about this game that critiques it largely from a postcolonial interpretation, with emphasis on the themes of language using some of Spivak's ideas. I thought I was gonna be the first one on youtube to seriously talk about the geo-political themes the game is juggling but you beat me to it!
I've still got some unique tricks up my sleaves however,.... if I ever get this damn project finished that is lol
I've been working on a video that directly goes there, I've just been nervous about putting it out. Not sure people are ready to hear what this game was actually about, when it comes to stuff like the child soldiers, the proxy wars, the blood diamonds and conflict minerals, the slave trade etc. Here's wishing both of us good luck, Boss! I recommend looking into the history of the Kikongo (or Kongo) language.
You must post your findings and ideas.
Don’t hold back boss. Just post all your theories & ideas.
Oh my god FIFTY MINUTES? You fucking spoil us with such amounts of great content oh lord. The first MGS game I actually ever played was The Phantom Pain, and it left me with so many questions/unresolved feelings, your videos on the game series have really helped clear a lot of it up as well as make me look at it in a bigger picture in its reflections of our real world.