Thanks Chris,,but a couple of question?,would it not be more accurate if you first,leveled the scope with a spitit level,,then made sure theverticle reticle was was diretly over the center of the barrel(i use a verticle ritcle insrument).Then you could go ahead,and make all your adjustments to the rings and bases??I noticed you did not use a spirit level. Just my 2 cents,,thanks
I have two sets collecting dust with the old toilet paper. I tried them; Dont use that on a main gun, they don’t hold zero, even at 100 inch/lbs. if you wanna play, fine but dont put these on a mission critical rifle. Do you remember the old see-through tasco scope rings, because the old guys dint trusted the mounts or scope, they were always saying : I still have my sight under the scope. Use these rings with that in the back of your head….no trust .
very interresting video. I'm tempted 😁 so I might order some picatinny versions. Quick question as your scope in now on an incline where did you take the measurements for scope height for your ballistic app?
@@gavinwilln7571 the same way you would have with an inclined rail. At the end of the day, it's not a precise dimension anyway as the internal erector tube is moving anyway so where would you account for that? It's all about angular error and the closer you shoot or the higher your scope the more it matters hence why airgunner need to be very critical over it and longer range shooters less so
@@jp8351 That was my first thought. Then I started to think further, not a good thing for me!!! Then the scope internal come into play, instant brain fail. Answer, zero it and get on with it.
@@jp8351 I don't think you will go far wrong with that. I suppose technically the pivot point of the erector tube is mathematically the perfect position but I'm open to discussion on that as long as people realise it's of minimal technical importance
Good content and shows flexibility of adjustment. Still, a 30moa rail adds around 9-10 MILs without any experimentation and worrying about multiple screws and alignments. Gives you at least half the scopes range plus 10 MILs generally. That would get most out to just under 400m depending on scope travel and tube diameter....... Seems a lot less risk overall and still enables your 50m zero too. Obviously there is no need to be dailing for anything at under 10 MILs ranges anyway, as would just use the reticle hash marks at your table matched magnification. Similiar logic for longer ranges without having to offset the tube. Presume most can dial the scope up to 10 MIL, or even more if you have it spare, you had 13MILs. Shooting out further than that use the reticle marks for another 10MILs so you have 20MILs + in total range without requiring any scope angling adjustments at all. Otherwise what's the point of having a ballistic recticle, even if it isn't FFP, right?
I grabbed a pair of eagle vision brand scope rings only because they have two allens clamping . For shooting under your zero just remember your scope hight . At the barrel it will be the full distance from center of scope to center of barrel . Halfway to target you will need to hold half that over target . It's all math people meters or yards makes no difference as long as you know your system . But there is more moa clicks at distance than mils . So if your looking for the ability to make more precise movement use moa . So if close is close enough , use mil .lol🤔
Very interesting product, I'm familiar with the area 419 rails available for the CZ range but wasn't aware of these.
Enjoyed this Chris these videos are interesting get the balloons out again mate 👍
Thanks Chris,,but a couple of question?,would it not be more accurate if you first,leveled the scope with a spitit level,,then made sure theverticle reticle was was diretly over the center of the barrel(i use a verticle ritcle insrument).Then you could go ahead,and make all your adjustments to the rings and bases??I noticed you did not use a spirit level.
Just my 2 cents,,thanks
No, I use my eye. I could tell you a few chapters about reticle levelling but save that for the direct clients
I have two sets collecting dust with the old toilet paper. I tried them; Dont use that on a main gun, they don’t hold zero, even at 100 inch/lbs. if you wanna play, fine but dont put these on a mission critical rifle. Do you remember the old see-through tasco scope rings, because the old guys dint trusted the mounts or scope, they were always saying : I still have my sight under the scope. Use these rings with that in the back of your head….no trust .
I own these rings. They don’t move a bit. Rock solid.
very interresting video. I'm tempted 😁 so I might order some picatinny versions. Quick question as your scope in now on an incline where did you take the measurements for scope height for your ballistic app?
My thoughts exactly, The answer may be simple, but I have not worked it out yet.
@@gavinwilln7571 the same way you would have with an inclined rail. At the end of the day, it's not a precise dimension anyway as the internal erector tube is moving anyway so where would you account for that? It's all about angular error and the closer you shoot or the higher your scope the more it matters hence why airgunner need to be very critical over it and longer range shooters less so
?? So just take the middle?
@@jp8351 That was my first thought. Then I started to think further, not a good thing for me!!! Then the scope internal come into play, instant brain fail. Answer, zero it and get on with it.
@@jp8351 I don't think you will go far wrong with that. I suppose technically the pivot point of the erector tube is mathematically the perfect position but I'm open to discussion on that as long as people realise it's of minimal technical importance
Good content and shows flexibility of adjustment.
Still, a 30moa rail adds around 9-10 MILs without any experimentation and worrying about multiple screws and alignments. Gives you at least half the scopes range plus 10 MILs generally.
That would get most out to just under 400m depending on scope travel and tube diameter....... Seems a lot less risk overall and still enables your 50m zero too.
Obviously there is no need to be dailing for anything at under 10 MILs ranges anyway, as would just use the reticle hash marks at your table matched magnification. Similiar logic for longer ranges without having to offset the tube. Presume most can dial the scope up to 10 MIL, or even more if you have it spare, you had 13MILs. Shooting out further than that use the reticle marks for another 10MILs so you have 20MILs + in total range without requiring any scope angling adjustments at all.
Otherwise what's the point of having a ballistic recticle, even if it isn't FFP, right?
I grabbed a pair of eagle vision brand scope rings only because they have two allens clamping . For shooting under your zero just remember your scope hight . At the barrel it will be the full distance from center of scope to center of barrel . Halfway to target you will need to hold half that over target . It's all math people meters or yards makes no difference as long as you know your system . But there is more moa clicks at distance than mils . So if your looking for the ability to make more precise movement use moa . So if close is close enough , use mil .lol🤔