I remember spending weeks getting used to full ace ballistics. Learnt how to use the ballistics calculator, learnt about ballistics coefficient, spin drift, corealous affect among other things. A nice skill to have learnt
Damn dude.. I used to watch you on twitch when I was 13 years old. You weren’t big yet this was 2012 or 13 but you shouted out me and my friend on twitch and I’m coming from reforger to arma 3 and learning the game just crazy I came back 10+ years later and your content is still good. You’re the reason my buddy and I both joined the marines too lol. Thanks for the video man
I agree, I've always been a fan of the arma series since Arma 2, after watching you play the latest DLC for arma 3 I got back into it and man do i miss how great the Arma games are, I really hope they come out with Arma 4 and can only imagine how amazing its gonna look.
BIS says that ARMA 4 is coming, but basically they're going to be building from the ground up, engine and everything. For all it's quirks and bugs, I love the ARMA series, more sense of accomplishment than any of the mainstay first person shooters like CoD or Battlefield. Not forgetting to mention how welcoming BIS is to modding their game, and the novel anti-pirating measures they took with the games.
As a child, there was this asian arcade machine, with a huge rifle fixed to it, and you could locate targets looking at the screen, see wind speed and direction, and then look through the scope to fire... It was a lot like firing bolt action rifles irl
For me when it comes to realism in games, you don't need fancy mechanics or graphics to portray something or make it realistically immersive. BF2: Project Reality is a prime example of this.
It is definitely one of the best representations out there, but I wish they gave you some wind holdovers on your dope for the particular round. I did always enjoy the range card in ACE though.
In ace you can use a ballistic computer and sync it with your kestrel and nite rangefinder, then when you input your round it should give you the ballistic solution
You can increase the interval in which the ace weather changes so you can shoot more than once with the same wind direction, I play nothing but DRO with the Barrett MRAD chambered in 300PRC or if there is a possible enemy vehicle I'll take a 338 Norma with API rounds instead. Happy sniping!
@@Thes4LTnot even close to how ace medical works but okay. Any tank shells or large caliber rounds is an instant kill in ace. Go troll somewhere else man.
I love ace sniping. If I can though I personally have a spotter with an Ballistics Calculator giving me precise values. But it's always nice to be able to walk it in alone.
There's a mod for this game called "dzn Rifle Tripod" that, in addition to providing a rifle tripod also fixes the bipods allowing you to level them (thus making them a lot less lame for snipers).
Would be cool to see MSO series brought back. Shit I'd love to watch Devil and friends just spend two hours patrolling around with virtually nothing happening.
In the Arma MilSim group I was in a few years ago, we had a training server and me and another guy would load in an hour before everyone else from time to time and setup sniping positions on the load out crates. We would then proceed to shoot near people who had just loaded in to cause panic and confusion to see how everyone would react and see if they could find us
It wouldn't have helped with that crazy wind constantly changing directions, but using the AtragMX ballistic calculator is an amazingly fun thing if you're going for those long-distance shots and trying to make them on your first hit. Not to mention the added immersion of having to type everything into a little OD brick. Reminds me of learning to use the DAGR in AIT.
Like and comment boys, watch the entire video, help our boy out. I just tuned in after not watching this channel for 4+ years, the marine stories pre-me entering service was what got me into you, and with 905K subs, something isnt right getting these amount of views.
That's hella cool bro. NGL you do have some IRL skills that translated well in this case. Also, they need to tweak that wind. It changes way too frequently and way too drastically. On another thought: you should considering doing a how-to video for this in terms of using the range card, how various different conditions affect your shot trajectory, etc.
It's more art than science in terms of reading wind, which does change that quickly IRL. 9-Hole Reviews has several videos which demonstrate it happening over the course of fire. The range card is easy to pick up, but it's drawback is that it isn't exacting for the weather conditions the shooter is in. What feels like cheating though is using the Vector 21, the Kestrel, the MicroDAGR, and the ATragMX all in conjunction with each other, and bringing all of that data together to dial in the scope and take a single shot. Seeing it work makes you want to gnaw on a stogie and say "I LOVE IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER!". After a lot of practice and failure though, you start to call wind, make range estimates, and drop calculations in your head on the fly. Sometimes you don't even touch the scope turrets and just use kentucky windage with a cold bore shot. Those times are fucking phenomenal. Then...you start to translate that over to scopes like the ACOG or SpecterDR and start impressing people.
@@MarkiusFox With the ever-changing environment, Is it normal for RL sniper/marksman to miss the first few shots? If so, wouldn't you just give away your own position? And what If your mission is to eliminate a high-value target, and you probably only have one shot to kill the target?
You can edit the wind sensativity in the settings. In general though, sitting on a hill top on an Island nation will yeild fast changing directions like this. Wind flows like water as well so dependent on where you are geographically will depend on how the wind "flows". Speed is obviously derived from other factors. In real life you can see fast changes through mirage which is more important than wind at the shooter position. Generally it is better to disregard wind reads in target rich environments and to just go based off mirage, bullet impact, or perceived wind.
ACE has way more depth than just shooting and manually adjusting to hit the target, for example it has the ATragMX where you can enter all the values (wind,air pressure,humidity,..) in a device which tells you the adjustments to the scope. There are so many features in the Advanced Ballistics module, for example Buildings or trees will disrupt the wind and the wind strength is different in other places, it also simulates the Coriolis effect (earth rotation), magnus effect (spin drift) and so much more ;) I would also suggest using the vector 21 which you can pair with the microdagr. But nice video after all ;)
for those who thinks that arma 3 is only another fps generic game.. arma 3 IS A ALMOST COMPLETE CONFLICT REALISTIC SIMULATOR... for common fps, go play battlefield, cod modern warfire etc...
They need to come out with something even more realistic. The Kestral is almost useless at those ranges and even more so shooting from a mountain down into a valley like that. It would be cool if someone came out with a version where you had to read the wind at the target (and even in between) as well as deal with everything else involved like spin drift and coriolis.
You do have to deal with spin drift and the Coriolis effect and the Eötvös effect with ACE. You typically use the ATragMX, which is also included in ACE to calculate your shots for long range stuff.
Wind down range, spin drift, and coriolis effect are all features of ACE ballistics. Unfortunately, it's harder to read the wind down range in ACE since you can't read it from mirage in your scope. However, I do seem to recall that it is possible to read the wind from flags downrange.
Maybe for a game but in real life that is an amazing reticle. It just takes some practice to learn it. In real life it allows you to quickly get on target without messing with your come ups.
@@will9357 Have they been to a military sniper school? Or have any other legit long range marksmanship training? Most people that don't like reticles like that haven't had enough real world experience.
I would say it depends on what the player like. For snipers and aircrafts, I prefer realism/simulation because if it's too arcady it can be dull very quickly (especially aircraft BVR/Dogfight).
It's more fun than worrying about kiddos standing on top of a tower and sniping you from 2500 meters. The problem with most "realistic" military shooters is that every character is sniper elite. Suppresion is not a thing when everybody has neurosurgeon hands, hawk eyes, and shoots laser guns. Then they add effects to the game that turn your character into a crying old man with Parkinson's when a bullet flys within 40 meters of you-- because "realism". Project Reality did a good job simulating inherent inaccuracy which in turn encouraged suppression and team work. ACE does it better. Cant think of any other game that has realistic enough gunplay and ballistics that they dont have to cruch players with shitty effects whenever the player gets shot at.
I definitely agree with Vercingetorix. It's much better than constantly getting sniped by an 8 year old from across the map. Long range shooting requires a fair amount of knowledge in real life, that's why the entire army isn't filled with snipers. If you do happen to understand even a little about long range shooting then simply putting the crosshair on the guy on the other side of the map is pretty damned boring.
This is very discouraging. The game should NOT take an expert who has played the game years on end to fire a dozen shots to get one hit. Seems like one is better off using artillery.
ABC’s of SALVATION ADMIT: You’re a sinner, condemned to DEATH (physical & spiritual) . Romans 3:10, 23 There is none righteous, no, not one … For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Romans 6:23 & James 1:15 the wages of sin is death … sin, when it is finished bringeth forth death. (Spiritual death is eternity in HELL !) BELIEVE: that JESUS died, rose again, and that HE ALONE can save you from sin, death, and hell. Romans 10:9-10 if you: believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness. CONFESS: JESUS CHRIST, and nothing else, as your own Saviour. Romans 10:9, 10 & 13 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus … confession is made unto salvation … whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Before it’s too late, forever, DO IT NOW! God’s gift is FREE and as easy as A-B-C !
I love these videos which is devil just nerding out about something he's passionate about
true
It's always enjoyable when you see someone do something they are passionate about, devil makes even more so
That crazy wind is due to ACE's weather module. You can disable it in the ace addon aettings, otherwise the wind just goes crazy.
I hope he sees this comment.
is there not a way to just turn the wind changing time down at all?
@@828Driftsthere is.. just look in the ace settings in CBA
And in today's video, Devil shoots long range during a tornado.
Devil: The Arma ACE Mod for Arma 3 is the most realistic sniper game/mod imo.
ACE Mod: Haha wind go brrr
LOL bleeds out in ACE.
Dagger Ace mod
Full settings boom
I remember spending weeks getting used to full ace ballistics. Learnt how to use the ballistics calculator, learnt about ballistics coefficient, spin drift, corealous affect among other things. A nice skill to have learnt
Finally, he's actually showing back up in my UA-cam recommendations.
Damn dude.. I used to watch you on twitch when I was 13 years old. You weren’t big yet this was 2012 or 13 but you shouted out me and my friend on twitch and I’m coming from reforger to arma 3 and learning the game just crazy I came back 10+ years later and your content is still good. You’re the reason my buddy and I both joined the marines too lol. Thanks for the video man
Back then it's crazy how many new features the ACE mod added.
I agree, I've always been a fan of the arma series since Arma 2, after watching you play the latest DLC for arma 3 I got back into it and man do i miss how great the Arma games are, I really hope they come out with Arma 4 and can only imagine how amazing its gonna look.
BIS says that ARMA 4 is coming, but basically they're going to be building from the ground up, engine and everything. For all it's quirks and bugs, I love the ARMA series, more sense of accomplishment than any of the mainstay first person shooters like CoD or Battlefield. Not forgetting to mention how welcoming BIS is to modding their game, and the novel anti-pirating measures they took with the games.
@@MarkiusFox thanks for the info, now just gotta wait a few years for the next Arma lol
As a child, there was this asian arcade machine, with a huge rifle fixed to it, and you could locate targets looking at the screen, see wind speed and direction, and then look through the scope to fire... It was a lot like firing bolt action rifles irl
silent scope?
For me when it comes to realism in games, you don't need fancy mechanics or graphics to portray something or make it realistically immersive. BF2: Project Reality is a prime example of this.
I took Ballistics in school fascinating subject things go up, things go down..
We should all have Sturmgewehrs! You get a Sturmgewehr, you get a Sturmgewehr, everyone gets Sturmgewehrs!
@@noblegrizzlybear5475 I'm not stating German technical superiority, i'm just stating the fucking obvious.
The key is getting them to come down exactly where you want them to.
what kind of school offers a ballistics class? that's badass
I would like to know if there is any mod, so that when we lay down with the rifle the character puts his hand on the butt, just like a real sniper
It is definitely one of the best representations out there, but I wish they gave you some wind holdovers on your dope for the particular round. I did always enjoy the range card in ACE though.
In ace you can use a ballistic computer and sync it with your kestrel and nite rangefinder, then when you input your round it should give you the ballistic solution
Definitely the most realistic I’ve seen. Awesome video!!!!
You can increase the interval in which the ace weather changes so you can shoot more than once with the same wind direction, I play nothing but DRO with the Barrett MRAD chambered in 300PRC or if there is a possible enemy vehicle I'll take a 338 Norma with API rounds instead. Happy sniping!
Ace 3 medical is pretty realistic as well. They really out did themselves with this mod. I don't play without it
>take 20mm explosive round to the chest
>fix it with a band aid
>good to go
Yes very realistic.
@@Thes4LTnot even close to how ace medical works but okay. Any tank shells or large caliber rounds is an instant kill in ace. Go troll somewhere else man.
I love ace sniping. If I can though I personally have a spotter with an Ballistics Calculator giving me precise values. But it's always nice to be able to walk it in alone.
The most realistic sniping in a video game for me would probably be in Police Quest: Swat.
cool looking game i can buy it on steam and i will thank you for introducing me to that!
I suggest using the vector 21 because you can pair it with the microdagr and get 10 digit grids
There's a mod for this game called "dzn Rifle Tripod" that, in addition to providing a rifle tripod also fixes the bipods allowing you to level them (thus making them a lot less lame for snipers).
What scope are you using(mod) i really like it,but i cant find it?
Would be cool to see MSO series brought back. Shit I'd love to watch Devil and friends just spend two hours patrolling around with virtually nothing happening.
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Your Machine gunner side is showing lol
Devil with the good ole Kentucky windage!
In the Arma MilSim group I was in a few years ago, we had a training server and me and another guy would load in an hour before everyone else from time to time and setup sniping positions on the load out crates. We would then proceed to shoot near people who had just loaded in to cause panic and confusion to see how everyone would react and see if they could find us
is there a version of the scenario used on the steam workshop? id love to use something like this as a practice session!!
It wouldn't have helped with that crazy wind constantly changing directions, but using the AtragMX ballistic calculator is an amazingly fun thing if you're going for those long-distance shots and trying to make them on your first hit. Not to mention the added immersion of having to type everything into a little OD brick. Reminds me of learning to use the DAGR in AIT.
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Like and comment boys, watch the entire video, help our boy out. I just tuned in after not watching this channel for 4+ years, the marine stories pre-me entering service was what got me into you, and with 905K subs, something isnt right getting these amount of views.
Love this kind of content! Awesome knowledge! Every Marine is a rifleman first!
With ace how do you adjust your aim? I do page up and down and nothing changes
Why not use the ATragMX?
it reminds me when i first time play COD4 the sniper mission, you have to watch the flag motion to pull the trigger.
Ooh, I'm early, that's new.
what scope are you using
How do you play like this? Im new to ARMA and i dont understand anything. Downloaded the mod. What mode is it? Is it editor?
i cant seem to get the windage mil clicks to work it only works for vertical and its in meters
That's hella cool bro. NGL you do have some IRL skills that translated well in this case. Also, they need to tweak that wind. It changes way too frequently and way too drastically. On another thought: you should considering doing a how-to video for this in terms of using the range card, how various different conditions affect your shot trajectory, etc.
It's more art than science in terms of reading wind, which does change that quickly IRL. 9-Hole Reviews has several videos which demonstrate it happening over the course of fire. The range card is easy to pick up, but it's drawback is that it isn't exacting for the weather conditions the shooter is in.
What feels like cheating though is using the Vector 21, the Kestrel, the MicroDAGR, and the ATragMX all in conjunction with each other, and bringing all of that data together to dial in the scope and take a single shot. Seeing it work makes you want to gnaw on a stogie and say "I LOVE IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER!".
After a lot of practice and failure though, you start to call wind, make range estimates, and drop calculations in your head on the fly. Sometimes you don't even touch the scope turrets and just use kentucky windage with a cold bore shot. Those times are fucking phenomenal. Then...you start to translate that over to scopes like the ACOG or SpecterDR and start impressing people.
@@MarkiusFox With the ever-changing environment, Is it normal for RL sniper/marksman to miss the first few shots? If so, wouldn't you just give away your own position? And what If your mission is to eliminate a high-value target, and you probably only have one shot to kill the target?
You can edit the wind sensativity in the settings. In general though, sitting on a hill top on an Island nation will yeild fast changing directions like this. Wind flows like water as well so dependent on where you are geographically will depend on how the wind "flows". Speed is obviously derived from other factors. In real life you can see fast changes through mirage which is more important than wind at the shooter position. Generally it is better to disregard wind reads in target rich environments and to just go based off mirage, bullet impact, or perceived wind.
Anyone know what mod the scope is from?
Your microphone sounds strange, did you change some settings?
"never with a bolty boy" what did you say after that? i can´t understand it.
I wish there were some MP, squad vs squad, missions with ACE ballistics.
American Sniper vibes.
Great video! I'm gonna have to try this out
My favorite clip of yours. It’s amazing.
Shit winds !! 😂😂 no you dident bubs you just earned yourself a subscriber 3 years later ❤
I would love KOTH with this to see how the tryhard snipers crumble at the fact that they cant just press funny easy zero button.
I've been using all these different gadgets in ACE when all this time all i needed was a chart and a notebook pretty much...
Scopes Mod?
To be fair, ACE adds ALOT more cool stuff than just the ballistics. =)
For every full value wind of 1 mph its within .3 mils. Assuming the gods of wind don't glitch everything out.
whens devil gonna play star citizen again???
i like the horus reticle, mine is an h59 on my rifle.
what map is this?
Malden 2035
The amount of shots I've shot with Arma ACE wind on mountains is such a dick punch changes every 10 seconds so windows of opportunities are slim
Agreed!
ACE has way more depth than just shooting and manually adjusting to hit the target, for example it has the ATragMX where you can enter all the values (wind,air pressure,humidity,..) in a device which tells you the adjustments to the scope.
There are so many features in the Advanced Ballistics module, for example Buildings or trees will disrupt the wind and the wind strength is different in other places, it also simulates the Coriolis effect (earth rotation), magnus effect (spin drift) and so much more ;)
I would also suggest using the vector 21 which you can pair with the microdagr.
But nice video after all ;)
I could not see the tracer
Yea me neither
Its very tiny idk why they didnt make it brighter
If you watch at the top of the reticle's post you can "catch" it and follow it from there.
for those who thinks that arma 3 is only another fps generic game.. arma 3 IS A ALMOST COMPLETE CONFLICT REALISTIC SIMULATOR...
for common fps, go play battlefield, cod modern warfire etc...
Devildome Dimmadog
I like ace ballistics but the wind is just ridiculous not a fan of that
didnt see the bullet even on 1440p xd
the meters per second wind is obnoxious as fuck. give me MPH and i can do this all a lot faster
DDG NOOO YOU WROTE GTX 2080
in your abouts
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Only infantry unit without a Scout Sniper Platoon?
Aye devil
Carlos Hathcock he ain't lol
You mean tarkov isn't realistic sniping
No not at all it has a shitty bullet drop thats somehow worse than battlefields
Hey, Devil, If you're still interested in Fallout Arma 3, i got an RP server you can join, RN it's Washington
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They need to come out with something even more realistic. The Kestral is almost useless at those ranges and even more so shooting from a mountain down into a valley like that. It would be cool if someone came out with a version where you had to read the wind at the target (and even in between) as well as deal with everything else involved like spin drift and coriolis.
Side note, where around here can we shoot further than 200 yards?
You do have to deal with spin drift and the Coriolis effect and the Eötvös effect with ACE. You typically use the ATragMX, which is also included in ACE to calculate your shots for long range stuff.
Wind down range, spin drift, and coriolis effect are all features of ACE ballistics. Unfortunately, it's harder to read the wind down range in ACE since you can't read it from mirage in your scope. However, I do seem to recall that it is possible to read the wind from flags downrange.
I'm early! Woo!
I was first !!!!!
I feel lime i am the only who can not see the bullet
5th
worst reticle ever ;(
Maybe for a game but in real life that is an amazing reticle. It just takes some practice to learn it. In real life it allows you to quickly get on target without messing with your come ups.
@@KeyboardWarrior101st I know people who hate that reticle in real life too.
@@will9357 Have they been to a military sniper school? Or have any other legit long range marksmanship training? Most people that don't like reticles like that haven't had enough real world experience.
Cool but realistism does niet equals fun.
I would say it depends on what the player like. For snipers and aircrafts, I prefer realism/simulation because if it's too arcady it can be dull very quickly (especially aircraft BVR/Dogfight).
It's more fun than worrying about kiddos standing on top of a tower and sniping you from 2500 meters. The problem with most "realistic" military shooters is that every character is sniper elite. Suppresion is not a thing when everybody has neurosurgeon hands, hawk eyes, and shoots laser guns. Then they add effects to the game that turn your character into a crying old man with Parkinson's when a bullet flys within 40 meters of you-- because "realism". Project Reality did a good job simulating inherent inaccuracy which in turn encouraged suppression and team work. ACE does it better. Cant think of any other game that has realistic enough gunplay and ballistics that they dont have to cruch players with shitty effects whenever the player gets shot at.
I definitely agree with Vercingetorix. It's much better than constantly getting sniped by an 8 year old from across the map.
Long range shooting requires a fair amount of knowledge in real life, that's why the entire army isn't filled with snipers. If you do happen to understand even a little about long range shooting then simply putting the crosshair on the guy on the other side of the map is pretty damned boring.
This is very discouraging. The game should NOT take an expert who has played the game years on end to fire a dozen shots to get one hit. Seems like one is better off using artillery.
ABC’s of SALVATION
ADMIT: You’re a sinner, condemned to DEATH (physical & spiritual) .
Romans 3:10, 23 There is none righteous, no, not one … For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
Romans 6:23 & James 1:15 the wages of sin is death … sin, when it is finished bringeth forth death. (Spiritual death is eternity in HELL !)
BELIEVE: that JESUS died, rose again, and that HE ALONE can save you from sin, death, and hell.
Romans 10:9-10 if you: believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness.
CONFESS: JESUS CHRIST, and nothing else, as your own Saviour. Romans 10:9, 10 & 13 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus … confession is made unto salvation … whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Before it’s too late, forever, DO IT NOW! God’s gift is FREE and as easy as A-B-C !
would like another exile server with ace added
i enjoyed this mod when you had the vietnam server up