I would not be surprised if this was unit was originally designed as a small locomotive and the company who made it was lets take these existing steam engines and try putting tracks on them for farm use
I really enjoyed the filming quality and technique. No talking, no music, just the people doing what they do and demonstrating these great mechanical and historical beauties that helped shape our countries industries. I am so thankful for all the tremendous work and skills of those who have restored and preserved this generation of machines! Thank you.
@@Quebster they are. At the very least they have been tacked on during the edit. You can hear this because the video cuts between scenes, and the sounds of each scene change accordingly, whilst the forest sound effect remains constant, and in fact you can hear bird noises that start just before a scene cuts to another and end in another scene. The echo may well be artificial, too, since an echo that significant would only occur in a deep valley, and even then I don't think it would be so apparent.
The perfect demonstration of the basic concept of a tracked vehicle. A machine that moves on rails but places its rails ahead and picks them up behind.
The first 7 minutes was shot at the Maine Forest & Logging Museum in Bradley, ME. The opening sequence we are using the 1934, 10 ton Lombard Tractor-Truck to pull our 19 ton, 1907 Lombard steam log hauler out of the bay. In 1900 Alvin Lombard developed and patented the first practical crawler track system. Between 1901 and 1917 his company - The Lombard Traction Engine Co. of Waterville, Maine, built 83 of these machines. They were used for hauling long trains of sleds loaded with timber ( up to 300 tons). Operating over snow/ice roads, steering was via skis. They were never equipped with wheels as shown here. We have swapped out the skis for wheels so we can demonstrate it during the summer. Lombard's steam log haulers are the ancestor to all modern track systems and yes, even snowmobiles. Please note that these were factory built machines - they are NOT converted steam locomotives. Lombard purchased boilers from the Ames Iron Works in Oswego, NY. The various castings were made to order by a local foundry with machining and final assembly performed at the Lombard factory. This Lombard steam log hauler in this video was used on logging operations until 1925 when it was abandoned near Knowles Brook in northwestern Maine. Recovered from the site in the late 1960's it eventually became part of the collection at the Maine Forest & Logging Museum where it underwent a 30 year restoration which was completed in 2014. It currently shares the museum's Lombard bay with a companion machine built in 1914 and also in operating condition. We will have this machine out and about along with the 1928 and 1934 Lombard Tractor-Trucks during our Living History Days event on October 7th & 8th at the Maine Forest & Logging Museum in Bradley, Maine. Please check our website for details. www.maineforestandloggingmuseum.org/events/
@@РоманБородачев-ш9йИ она затопленная Дровами поедет в Лес за дровами и привезёт дрова на дровах. Никаких бензо колонок , ненужных трат. А ещё продаст эти Дрова же, привезенные на Дровах. 😅.
Ты ещё посмотри паровой автомобиль братьев дубль 1910 год запускался с ключа и за 10 секунд разгон до 100 , 800 км на одной заправке 70 литров керасина
I'm always impressed to see what huge power and torque output steam can generate. The last pull with all these plows was very impressive. Not a lot of tractors we use today would be able to do this. I'm glad we have people who keep these beautiful machines alive.
One thing I find amazing is these machines never really had an “idle”. They were just running and waiting to go like a car when it’s cranked. They were much simpler than that. Yet built the backbone of most developed nations. Machines used to be simple but complicated to use, now their complicated but simple to use.
@@dippst too friendly is the problem, that is why cars have air bags, abs, and loads of other bs that makes them 2 times as heavy as they should have been same problem with software and computers, software gets heavier and heavier requiring more and more power to run and all because lazy people can't learn to brake, drive, and get everything done in 3 clicks
I have watched dozens of videos of older men operating older steam machinery and there isn't any where the operators had to speak to each other to do their thing.
Machines like this were manufactured in EauClaire Wis. by the Phoenix mfring Co. In winter they could pull huge loads of logs form the woods on frozen -ice "roads" . I always wondered what they looked like! Thank you!
I live about a mile from the old Phoenix mfg site, now Phoenix Park. There is a working Phoenix Log Hauler in Wabena, WI. It was here last year for Pioneer Days. Cool to see it working. The steering mechanism of the Phoenix is a little different from the Lombard in the video.
I was just thinking that the pretty much looks like a train without the wheels and no tracks I kind of wonder if it was converted from some kind of locomotive🤔😚
@@H2Oredfirefox they built a lot of similar type things, they called some road locomotives, some they just called a tractor, or other names depending on the manufacturer and region. Basically all of them are a giant boiler and a decent sized steam engine that can move under its own power.
@@H2Oredfirefox oh no doubt! I watch my fair share of stuff like this, never seen one that was equipped with tracks, love this stuff! The fact that it still exists is impressive, the fact that some of these are still operable is an astonishing achievement on behalf of the manufacturers and engineers of the past.
Yes they are! It takes us about 3 hours to fire-up the Lombard from cold. In this instance it was the first run of the season and we had just completed the annual boiler inspection so we tend to take extra care. Of course back when these where used on logging operations they were under steam 24/7 unless they needed repairs.
To be fair, these days if you were to make a steam tractor a lot of the labour could be cut out, you'd just have to change the design drastically to make that a goal.
Excellent video. All of my farm tractors, have either been gasoline or diesel. But your video on steam tractors, makes me recall, in 1967, when I was employed as a Stationary Boiler Fireman, in a Steam Engineering plant, at a hospital, in my hometown of Glenn Dale, Maryland. We operated 4 steam generating Boilers, each as big as a two story house.
That first steam tractor shown was amazing. What a beast ! And the man steering it at the front was getting quite the workout. Power steering was a long way off. I can't imagine why people preferred these gargantuans over mules and horses. What a fun informative video to watch.
The Lombard (the first steam tractor) was developed to replace horses in the woods of northern New England. Its was not uncommon to to have over 20,000 horses working in the Maine woods during the winter. The practical hauling distance for horses pulling a logging sled was about 4 miles. A lombard, on the other hand, could haul up to 300 tons many miles.
It was not necessarily anything to do with how pleasant it was to run the machine but the efficiency. Mules and horses could only work so many hours a day and could only go so far and pull so much. To feed them through the winter or when working somewhere without forage they had to provide grain, hay, and water. Had to have people who's whole job was to tend the animals. To do the same job as these steam engine you need many horses & be changed out for fresh every so often which requires downtime. With this contraption it could work all day and all night if you wanted it to, and never had the stop it could go for miles and miles with no break. As long as you have wood and water and some oil to oil it every so many hours it would keep going. And to the industry that primarily used such machines the fuel was easy to come by as they were already cutting logs. To the solo farmer much like an Amish man today who has a small team of horses to plow his field, haul logs for the winter, pull his buggy into town, ect a couple horses or mules may be more economical for him because the horse can pull the mower to cut its own hay and it's not being used it will fuel itself by grazing. But for big operations the need for such machinery was dire. At the time these were invented the average person spent half of their money or better on food alone. Food was never so cheap and plentiful as it is today because of the heavy manual labor involved and the fact that farming at-scale for market required large amounts of manpower. Whereas these days a single farmer can as long as he has the right equipment most days without any help run a 200 cow dairy, hundreds of acres of field for planting, multiple chicken barns, or hog barns. Today less than 2% of the population are farmers whereas even just a hundred years ago farming was the most common profession. Logging today is similar because instead of requiring multiple people to tend horses as well as all the other work you just need the cut men, the equipment operator, and someone to haul a tank of fuel.
Хе-хе, они его сохранили так как купили его в кредит на 60-80 лет! Представляю скока % содрал банк за такую покупки. И даже боюсь представить что за гачи-мучи прописаны в договоре за не соблюдение. Потому и работали на нём до упора.
@@Toni73RU это реальные проценты на кредиты в США, Европе и Китае. 3% даже в Калифорнии считается дорогим кредитом. Ну и до сво Сбербанк в Европе(у них там были отделения) давал кредиты по 2-3%. Хотя ты же или дурак, которому лень поинтересоваться, либо пригожинская проститутка, отрабатывающая 15 рублей.
@@Toni73RU Раскажу вам как я три дня назад и стоял и смотрел на два дома которые стоят рядом. Один из Красного Кирпича 2 полных этажа крыша двухскатная жилая и полуподвал, квадратов жилых около 300 метра, построен перед 1 Мировой одним хозяйном Крестьяниним. А рядом новый в 2 этажа квадратов на 100. так вот у ногого как раз кредит на 20 лет а тот старый строился без кредита. А знаете почему, 100 лет назад налогов было меньше, строймарериал покупали пару лет до строики один год кирпич другой год древесину. Кредиты это явление этого века потому что всем всего хочется и сразу.
Лично видел паровой подъемный кран на ж/д ходу в рабочем состоянии в 1988г (порт Бальбоа, Панама, 1913 г.выпуска, США, фирмы кажется Pratt& Whitney (не помню точно)) и он ещё реально работал. Позже, уже в 90х его переделали на дизель. Но такого полугусеничного монстра даже и представить себе не мог. Великое уважение специалистам, которые поддерживают его в рабочем состоянии.
And now I am impressed as a mechanical engineer. How much effort was put to this? A LOT. And this wonderful machines is still working, despite the fact that many of them are over a hundred years old.
L’idée aurait dû être gardé et mis en fonction avec les autres véhicules et une seule voie de circulations, elles maneouvaie comme un camion d'où l’économie à la places de toutes ces voies ?
Well, computers were made with this idea in mind. But later SOMETHING went wrong and now we have bloated slow buggy software and hardware with backdoors me cannot easily diagnose nor repair...
its the first time i saw how farming was done in 1900. i never saw a steam powered train on pure soil. this is really informing (like the production of ice in 1880). so thanks for sharing the footage of the events
WOW! Be patient when you watch this 15-minute video! Do watch it ‘til the end. Weird, wild and wonderful old steam-powered machines are shown here, which means there’s a lotta history here too.
В чем не эффективно то??? В чем?? Он Case тянет 30 плугов за раз. При этом нет бешеных трат на добычу нефти , переработку её, перевозку её, Ничего. Этот же Case 150 , поедет в Лес, привезёт Дрова и на эти Дрова же, вспашет Поле. Где не эффективность?? Вы рассходы наверно считать не умеете.
@@LeonidMiklaev думаю про эффективность тут в том плане, что КПД очень низкий относительно сжигаемого топлива и расхода воды. Если работать часа 2-3, то скорее всего потребуется довольно много дров. В лесу вы их не получите, если не хотите нарушить закон. Не говоря уж о том, что древесину нужно сушить перед сжиганием. А если ее купить, то даже если выйдет дешевле бензина или солярки, ее объемы неудобно перевозить. Тоже самое и с водой, вам потребуется машина, что бы постоянно заправлять данный транспорт, вряд ли вы руками будете таскать сотни литров воды или будете ехать на нем до дома. К тому же для управления подобным аппаратом желательно 2 человека. Так же нужно регулярное обслуживание, ибо ломаться будет часто. Ну и самое главное, данный трактор никуда не поедет за пределы данного поля. Его максимальная скорость вероятно не больше 10-15 км в час. Что бы на нем работать где то чуть дальше дома, вам потребуется вызывать эвакуатор, что бы добраться до места. В конце концов не просто так отказались от паровой тяги.
@@Mirkin1992 а ты попробуй раздобыть Нефть сначала. Сравни добычу Нефти весь цикл , затраты и сравни Съездить в Лес на дровах же ради Дрова. И да тытакже не знаешь о других методах сжигания дров.
@@Mirkin1992 Вы бывали на Вахтах ? На бурении скважин? Вы теряли на Вахтах Семьи? Вы легко считаете о КПД, при этом уверен вы не Вахтовик и спите со своей женой и детьми а доме. Вы вот эти Цены посчитайте. Как семьи ругаться Дети растут ради ваших КПД без отцов. Жены живут без мужей апосле уходят к другому. Вы посчитайте в вашем гоебанном КПД Горе мужика вахтовика что на вахте остался без жены детей . Я знаю что считающие КПД спят со своими женами играются с детьми тогда когда Вахтовик пол жизни отдает в Жертву ради вашего гребанного КПД.
@@LeonidMiklaev причем тут добыча нефти? Ты же не сам ее добываешь. Важно лишь соотношение твоих личных затрат к производительности данной машины. Но если смотреть на проблему в глобальном масштабе, как вы предлагаете, то получение дров выйдет в много раз дороже нефти. Неужели вы думаете, что дрова так просто получить? Если бы до сих пор транспорт в мире был бы паровым, цена на дрова возросла бы в десятки раз. А количество денег на выращивание деревьев вышло бы астрономическим. Ну и конечно самое главное в транспорте, это удобство. Если вам потребуется хранить вагон древесины и цистерну воды для работы своей машины, о какой эффективности может идти речь.
They were not conversions they were purposely built as log hauling traction engines ,that pulled sleds loaded with as many as thirty logs on grooved ice haul roads .
Its only 145 hp at 1,400 rpm but it has tremendous torque. The record for one of these machines (set in 1936) was hauling a sled train carrying 298 ton's of pulpwood. Here is some vintage video footage: ua-cam.com/video/FP7efJvoS9A/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/dBEjVnCZ23s/v-deo.html
Yes, its a bit of a blind corner for cars entering the parking lot from Government Road so we always give a warning whistle. We actually have a dedicated Lombard log hauler road that is about 85% complete. We just need to ease a couple of the curves and do the final grading.
Big flywheels, belts, chains, riveted iron plating, puffing smoke, and steam. I have such a respect for this era of technology. The way they developed ways to maximize, store, and transfer the often underappreciated power of steam is amazing. What they might have in archaic and somewhat dangerous design, they make up for in torque, horsepower, and durability. There's just something to be said about that. I love me a loud, purring big block v8, but you just can't go wrong with what's essentially a stream train on treads.
Im sure the day the old machine was built, they would have never dreamed that the old machine majority of parts would be driven like this so many years down the centuries! 😊😊😊😊😊
1:30 in Finland , this locomotive has been used in forest work in the winter. Now as a museum in Savukoski. The forest manage of Kemiyhtiö , Hugo Richard Sandberg ( 1849 - 1930 ) " Samperi " , ordered two steam locomotives all the way from America to transport the to the river for floting.
Fascinating, I thought the first vehicle only existed in the fevered imagination of mad max! Was that half track a one off or were there many of them back in the day? Nice to see you also have a thriving community of enthusiasts for these machines, across the pond. I was going to ask whether that huge wing was a plough, until I saw the final sequence that confirmed it. Just wow, what a monster! I bet all of the oxen joined a union when they saw that!
Not a one off. From 1900 through 1917 the Lombard Traction Engine Co. of Waterville, built 83 of the steam powered log haulers. From 1914 through 1936 they produced over 300 of the gasoline powered (Tractor-Truck) machines. (we don't know the exact number) That included 10 ton models (as shown) 8 ton, 15 ton and 20 ton machines.
If my history is correct Lombard was the first inventor to successfully use a tracked vehicle. My wife and I actually looked at his house to buy in about 1990 or so. It had its own hydroelectric plant with water supplied by a small mill pond. I remember seeing the Gasoline powered log hauler at a dam on the Allagash River in northern Maine around 1958 or so. Could be the one at the Museum.
@@jamesrea8454 Correct! In regards to Lombard's house the recently removed the dam. The Lombard you are thinking of is now in the State Museum in Augusta. The machine we have was bought new by the City of Waterville and used for plowing etc. Later, it was sold to Starbird Lumber in Strong, Maine and eventually sold to a private collector who graciously has placed on long term loan to museum.
WDM in Saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada has 2 log haulers. They ran between SPRUCE RIVER FOREST RESERVE (Prince Albert National Park) to The Pas, Manitoba. One was rebuilt and the other is in storage. They also have a live steam Calliope.😊😊😊😊
@@terryharper2024 《 they were amazing machines - there were 6 or 8 machines used in the forest reserve, there is a photo of a bunch sitting in the bush not being used. The photo either at Western Development Museun or at Prince Albert National Park.
@@davidmorrison3697 Cool! At the Maine Forest & Logging Museum we have four Lombard's in the collection including the 1907 steam powered Lombard shown in the video, a 1914 Steam powered Lombard. the 1934 Lombard Tractor-Truck (also shown) and a 1928 Lombard Model T dump truck - all are operational and demonstrated on a regular basis. We also have a 1919 Lombard tractor truck due to arrive as soon as the mechanical work is complete. ua-cam.com/video/SaT1IP8NL_w/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/dBEjVnCZ23s/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/_MYXzu7MJEM/v-deo.html
The steam log hauler looks like a Road Locomotive. Tracks subbed for rail wheels, and since the engineer never had to steer on tracks, they just stuck on some turning wheels and a driver at the front. I hope the driver's assistant had some way to communicate with the engineer, like semaphores.
Actually no. Alvin Lombard of Waterville, ME. developed and patented the first practical crawler track system in 1900. Between 1900 and 1917 his company (Lombard Traction Engine Co.) built 83 of these machines. This one was built in 1907 and is only one of three operating examples. These machines were built new - they were not conversions of a locomotive. Just as they did back in the day - we use whistle signals for stop, forward and reverse.
It was never a locomotive (a "train" is a string of railroad cars). When this machine was developed in 1900, "Caterpillar" treads didn't exist. The person who developed and built this machine is credited with patenting and produced the very first practical crawler track system. Between 1901 and 1917 his company - the Lombard Steam Log Hauler Co. of Waterville, ME., produced 82 of these machines. Do a bit of research and you might learn something.
The coolest small boiler use I've ever seen was a video from South America and a guy have a small boiler propelling a tricycle. He would feed it by stopping and picking up some Twigs alongside the road. Now that's good fuel mileage!
Cool😀👍I remember a big steam tractor abandoned just outside UTICA NY btwn Frankfort and Utica it sat back in the tress for years came by one day and somebody was cutting it out of the trees that grew up around it....sat back in there for years hardly know it was there unless you were real observant...that area was all crop fields back in the day I'm sure to support the city etc...and I'm sure that tractor worked all that land behind the Masonic Temple off Broad st and Center Rd...
I assume the 'atmospheric' track was added in post? Definitely better than having loud music over everything and better than having nothing. Nice touch, even if the stereo doesn't shift.
Steam tractors are the scartiest machines I've ever seen. The locomotive wins the first place for me. Put red headlights on it in the front and drive it in the night in the forest. I love them!
Wow… that is literally a train but refitted with tracks… I honestly LOVE this idea! Kind of a shame more concepts like this weren’t tried! They could have used old retired shunting engines, refitted and restored them, and bam! Steam tractor!
Not a repurposed steam locomotive. This particular machine was built new in 1907. Between 1901 and 1917 The Lombard Traction Engine Company of Waterville, Maine built 83 of these machines.
So what kind of steam pressure do they run at? Empty and loaded? No one ever says that! I guess next year at old thrashers I will find out for on the large pieces of equipment. Is it 200 p.si., 300, 600, 10,000 p.si.?😮
"I have a really terrible phobia of trains"
"dont worry, as long as you stay away from tracks they won't scare you"
I would not be surprised if this was unit was originally designed as a small locomotive and the company who made it was lets take these existing steam engines and try putting tracks on them for farm use
It is a Lombard Log Hauler. It was never a railroad locomotive. The majority of steam tractors used horizontal Boilers
@Leboobs22your name muahahahahaha
@Leboobs22 Same. She was a real nutjob, and not in the good way. Never trust someone who doesn't like trains.
I really enjoyed the filming quality and technique. No talking, no music, just the people doing what they do and demonstrating these great mechanical and historical beauties that helped shape our countries industries. I am so thankful for all the tremendous work and skills of those who have restored and preserved this generation of machines! Thank you.
Could have lived without the obnoxious fake bird and insect noises
@@proscriptusI dont think that was fake
@@Quebster they are. At the very least they have been tacked on during the edit. You can hear this because the video cuts between scenes, and the sounds of each scene change accordingly, whilst the forest sound effect remains constant, and in fact you can hear bird noises that start just before a scene cuts to another and end in another scene. The echo may well be artificial, too, since an echo that significant would only occur in a deep valley, and even then I don't think it would be so apparent.
it is not the generation it is the creation the Adam and eve of machines the father and mother of what we have today
@@proscriptus Based on what do you say it's fake?
The perfect demonstration of the basic concept of a tracked vehicle. A machine that moves on rails but places its rails ahead and picks them up behind.
Just like my mother-in-law.
❤❤LOOL😂😂😂@@OldManBOMBIN
Don't worry, this thing is considerably lighter and has a top speed of 5 mph, meanwhile the pyro from tf2 can move a 17 mph.
The first 7 minutes was shot at the Maine Forest & Logging Museum in Bradley, ME. The opening sequence we are using the 1934, 10 ton Lombard Tractor-Truck to pull our 19 ton, 1907 Lombard steam log hauler out of the bay. In 1900 Alvin Lombard developed and patented the first practical crawler track system. Between 1901 and 1917 his company - The Lombard Traction Engine Co. of Waterville, Maine, built 83 of these machines. They were used for hauling long trains of sleds loaded with timber ( up to 300 tons). Operating over snow/ice roads, steering was via skis. They were never equipped with wheels as shown here. We have swapped out the skis for wheels so we can demonstrate it during the summer. Lombard's steam log haulers are the ancestor to all modern track systems and yes, even snowmobiles. Please note that these were factory built machines - they are NOT converted steam locomotives. Lombard purchased boilers from the Ames Iron Works in Oswego, NY. The various castings were made to order by a local foundry with machining and final assembly performed at the Lombard factory.
This Lombard steam log hauler in this video was used on logging operations until 1925 when it was abandoned near Knowles Brook in northwestern Maine. Recovered from the site in the late 1960's it eventually became part of the collection at the Maine Forest & Logging Museum where it underwent a 30 year restoration which was completed in 2014. It currently shares the museum's Lombard bay with a companion machine built in 1914 and also in operating condition.
We will have this machine out and about along with the 1928 and 1934 Lombard Tractor-Trucks during our Living History Days event on October 7th & 8th at the Maine Forest & Logging Museum in Bradley, Maine. Please check our website for details. www.maineforestandloggingmuseum.org/events/
Thank you!
Вот это машина на пару,2кочегара 2 водителя
Is the first machine not a linn tractor?
@@РоманБородачев-ш9йИ она затопленная Дровами поедет в Лес за дровами и привезёт дрова на дровах.
Никаких бензо колонок , ненужных трат. А ещё продаст эти Дрова же, привезенные на Дровах. 😅.
Wow!! That is so cool. I have to come up and see this thing in person some time...
Вот это да! Я даже не подозревал о существовании таких монстров на паровой тяге. Конструкторам и создателям этой техники уважение и память!
Ты ещё посмотри паровой автомобиль братьев дубль 1910 год запускался с ключа и за 10 секунд разгон до 100 , 800 км на одной заправке 70 литров керасина
Их в это время не убивали.
@@Своя-жизньэто уже не то. На керосине разогнаться любой дурак, так сказать, может. Ты вот на дровах и воде попробуй.
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I'm always impressed to see what huge power and torque output steam can generate. The last pull with all these plows was very impressive. Not a lot of tractors we use today would be able to do this. I'm glad we have people who keep these beautiful machines alive.
Steam is powering your house right now.
Saw the same footage on a different channel. It's a 42 bottom plow.
1 raindrop and it cant move forward
Has a lot to do with weight, gearing, and low rpm torque
Modern tracters are built to do things better and faster
@@wwindsunrain not for much longer hopefully
One thing I find amazing is these machines never really had an “idle”. They were just running and waiting to go like a car when it’s cranked. They were much simpler than that. Yet built the backbone of most developed nations. Machines used to be simple but complicated to use, now their complicated but simple to use.
the greatest feat of engineering is making things user friendly.
what does a steam engine need an 'idle' for anyway. you just turn the steam off and it stops :P the ignition is 'somewhere else' :P
They kinda had, you could just reroute the steam somewhere else and keep the boiler going without moving.
@@mactep1 With the throttle closed it will simply sit and and quietly simmer as long as you supply fuel and water.
@@dippst too friendly is the problem, that is why cars have air bags, abs, and loads of other bs that makes them 2 times as heavy as they should have been
same problem with software and computers, software gets heavier and heavier requiring more and more power to run
and all because lazy people can't learn to brake, drive, and get everything done in 3 clicks
Thank you for not over dubbing "music", let us experience both the sights and sounds, we can makeup the smells on our own. 🙂
Yes, yes, yes! Thanks!
You should find more time in being thankful than hateful. You won't die as soon.
Молодцы старички! Востонавливать и поддерживать в рабочем состоянии ,надо много умения! Здоровья вам и счастья!
Великолепный образец технологий того времени! Уважение мастерам, поддерживающим его в рабочем состоянии!
Thank you!
UA-cam at its finest. Wonderful that you could share this with the world.
I have watched dozens of videos of older men operating older steam machinery and there isn't any where the operators had to speak to each other to do their thing.
They did in the beginning.
Yep that's what experience will do.
Didn't you notice that the stoker is a woman?
@@paulbutikofer4284🙄
This is an edited video.
Machines like this were manufactured in EauClaire Wis. by the Phoenix mfring Co. In winter they could pull huge loads of logs form the woods on frozen -ice "roads" . I always wondered what they looked like! Thank you!
This is a Lombard. The phoenix machines were built under a license agreement granted by Lombard. Wonderful machines.
There's another one Janesville, IA
I live about a mile from the old Phoenix mfg site, now Phoenix Park. There is a working Phoenix Log Hauler in Wabena, WI. It was here last year for Pioneer Days. Cool to see it working. The steering mechanism of the Phoenix is a little different from the Lombard in the video.
Parabéns a esses homens que criaram essas máquinas!
O começo da grande revolução que temos hoje!
My great grandfather and his brothers had a Phoenix.
It got sent to Germany.
Killdozer: finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary
Wired Percy from Thomas the tank engine thing vs killdozer
Weird Percy from Thomas the tank engine thing VS KILLDOZER!!!!!1!11!!!!
It's basically a locomotive that doesn't need rails. That's pretty amazing! Definitely not a ''put the key in it and go'', affair.
I recently seen a video where they called it a "road locomotive" it wasn't a tracked one like this, it had conventional steel wheels front and rear.
I was just thinking that the pretty much looks like a train without the wheels and no tracks I kind of wonder if it was converted from some kind of locomotive🤔😚
@@H2Oredfirefox they built a lot of similar type things, they called some road locomotives, some they just called a tractor, or other names depending on the manufacturer and region.
Basically all of them are a giant boiler and a decent sized steam engine that can move under its own power.
@@goosenotmaverick1156 Still pretty impressive to see them running today
@@H2Oredfirefox oh no doubt! I watch my fair share of stuff like this, never seen one that was equipped with tracks, love this stuff! The fact that it still exists is impressive, the fact that some of these are still operable is an astonishing achievement on behalf of the manufacturers and engineers of the past.
You can really see how labor intensive these engines were .
Yes they are! It takes us about 3 hours to fire-up the Lombard from cold. In this instance it was the first run of the season and we had just completed the annual boiler inspection so we tend to take extra care. Of course back when these where used on logging operations they were under steam 24/7 unless they needed repairs.
But on the same note, you can see at 13:46 just how much work these engines could accomplish compared to what men without them could do.
Horses weren't easy either
@@BDNeonand the engines don't get tired.
To be fair, these days if you were to make a steam tractor a lot of the labour could be cut out, you'd just have to change the design drastically to make that a goal.
Excellent video. All of my farm tractors, have either been gasoline or diesel. But your video on steam tractors, makes me recall, in 1967, when I was employed as a Stationary Boiler Fireman, in a Steam Engineering plant, at a hospital, in my hometown of Glenn Dale, Maryland. We operated 4 steam generating Boilers, each as big as a two story house.
Lay, off, the, commas.
Класс.💪👍🤙🍸🍾🍷🥂🍻🍺😊
Incredible how you need to be a semi-engineer just to run and keep these massive machines running. And I loved hearing the birds chirp. So serene
That's why they called those guys "engineers".
Well you don't need electronics or batteries.
That first steam tractor shown was amazing. What a beast ! And the man steering it at the front was getting quite the workout. Power steering was a long way off. I can't imagine why people preferred these gargantuans over mules and horses. What a fun informative video to watch.
The Lombard (the first steam tractor) was developed to replace horses in the woods of northern New England. Its was not uncommon to to have over 20,000 horses working in the Maine woods during the winter. The practical hauling distance for horses pulling a logging sled was about 4 miles. A lombard, on the other hand, could haul up to 300 tons many miles.
Le modernistes l’évolutions dû travail et de l’hommes et de la machine, départ pour la LUNE, )le cylindre de là loco et de la 🚀
It was not necessarily anything to do with how pleasant it was to run the machine but the efficiency. Mules and horses could only work so many hours a day and could only go so far and pull so much. To feed them through the winter or when working somewhere without forage they had to provide grain, hay, and water. Had to have people who's whole job was to tend the animals. To do the same job as these steam engine you need many horses & be changed out for fresh every so often which requires downtime. With this contraption it could work all day and all night if you wanted it to, and never had the stop it could go for miles and miles with no break. As long as you have wood and water and some oil to oil it every so many hours it would keep going. And to the industry that primarily used such machines the fuel was easy to come by as they were already cutting logs.
To the solo farmer much like an Amish man today who has a small team of horses to plow his field, haul logs for the winter, pull his buggy into town, ect a couple horses or mules may be more economical for him because the horse can pull the mower to cut its own hay and it's not being used it will fuel itself by grazing. But for big operations the need for such machinery was dire. At the time these were invented the average person spent half of their money or better on food alone. Food was never so cheap and plentiful as it is today because of the heavy manual labor involved and the fact that farming at-scale for market required large amounts of manpower. Whereas these days a single farmer can as long as he has the right equipment most days without any help run a 200 cow dairy, hundreds of acres of field for planting, multiple chicken barns, or hog barns. Today less than 2% of the population are farmers whereas even just a hundred years ago farming was the most common profession.
Logging today is similar because instead of requiring multiple people to tend horses as well as all the other work you just need the cut men, the equipment operator, and someone to haul a tank of fuel.
С большим уважением отношусь к людям которые сохранили эти чудеса техники.
Хе-хе, они его сохранили так как купили его в кредит на 60-80 лет! Представляю скока % содрал банк за такую покупки. И даже боюсь представить что за гачи-мучи прописаны в договоре за не соблюдение.
Потому и работали на нём до упора.
@@Toni73RU 1-2% годовых максимум. А, как правило и вовсе меньше 1%.
@@Rufusail , ага - в мечтах XD
@@Toni73RU это реальные проценты на кредиты в США, Европе и Китае. 3% даже в Калифорнии считается дорогим кредитом. Ну и до сво Сбербанк в Европе(у них там были отделения) давал кредиты по 2-3%. Хотя ты же или дурак, которому лень поинтересоваться, либо пригожинская проститутка, отрабатывающая 15 рублей.
@@Toni73RU Раскажу вам как я три дня назад и стоял и смотрел на два дома которые стоят рядом. Один из Красного Кирпича 2 полных этажа крыша двухскатная жилая и полуподвал, квадратов жилых около 300 метра, построен перед 1 Мировой одним хозяйном Крестьяниним. А рядом новый в 2 этажа квадратов на 100. так вот у ногого как раз кредит на 20 лет а тот старый строился без кредита. А знаете почему, 100 лет назад налогов было меньше, строймарериал покупали пару лет до строики один год кирпич другой год древесину. Кредиты это явление этого века потому что всем всего хочется и сразу.
Time for the next generation to get schooled on this type of equipment
Лично видел паровой подъемный кран на ж/д ходу в рабочем состоянии в 1988г (порт Бальбоа, Панама, 1913 г.выпуска, США, фирмы кажется Pratt& Whitney (не помню точно)) и он ещё реально работал. Позже, уже в 90х его переделали на дизель. Но такого полугусеничного монстра даже и представить себе не мог. Великое уважение специалистам, которые поддерживают его в рабочем состоянии.
Those things look like they could drive straight through a Wal-Mart and not miss a beat. 😂
For real 😂
Except the steerman is right up front to take the brunt of the hit.
your chances of being run over by a train in the woods is low but never zero
Какие великолепные машины. Не знаю, репплика или отремонтированные оригиналы, но сама проделанная работа вызывает уважение.
Superb machine indeed ! I've never seen anything like this before. Thanks a lot, Colin UK
And now I am impressed as a mechanical engineer. How much effort was put to this? A LOT. And this wonderful machines is still working, despite the fact that many of them are over a hundred years old.
That last pull was damn impressive.
If I saw that creature out on the road, it would make my whole day! Can't help but bring a smile to your face.😄😁😃😂
That is a steam train that doesn't need tracks!! Super cool and thanks for keeping history alive!
I mean it still does use tracks, just a different kind :)
L’idée aurait dû être gardé et mis en fonction avec les autres véhicules et une seule voie de circulations, elles maneouvaie comme un camion d'où l’économie à la places de toutes ces voies ?
Many of those giant steam tractors were called Road Locomotives at the time they were built.
Nothing is predestined: The obstacles of your past can become the gateways that lead to new beginnings.
Me looking at you getting that thing running: "Oh well, some day people will be like: 'You actually had to carry keys with you?!'"
WOW! ...and I thought my '77 Fleetwood Brougham was a road locomotive. What a machine.
I could've never guessed that half-track steam tractors existed.
A Locomotive steam half track...i love it too!
The efficiency with which he paired the socks in the drawer was quite admirable.
Вот это мощь ! Какой современный трактор сможет сразу пол поля вспахать ?
Даже небольшой современный трактор более производителен , чем этот монстр
Чудо трактора, мужики молодцы . Уважуха ВАМ ВСЕМ.
Первый раз вижу паровоз на гусеничном ходу, да ещё в рабочем состоянии.Мододцы что сохранили.
Imagine riding your bike through the woods and suddenly you hear the sound of a train!
"BRO WTF CHOO CHOO CHARLES IS OUT TO GET MA GOD DAYUM ASS!"
Wow! Beautiful and beautifully kept. Not a computer or sensor anywhere to be seen. When or rather , if it breaks, no guessing what is wrong.
Well, computers were made with this idea in mind. But later SOMETHING went wrong and now we have bloated slow buggy software and hardware with backdoors me cannot easily diagnose nor repair...
its the first time i saw how farming was done in 1900. i never saw a steam powered train on pure soil. this is really informing (like the production of ice in 1880). so thanks for sharing the footage of the events
КАКАЯ ПРЕЛЕСТЬ! ВЧЕРА РАСТОПИЛ, А ПОСЛЕЗАВТРА УЖЕ СМОГ ПОЕХАТЬ! И КАКОЙ ПРИКОЛЬНЫЙ ЗВУК КЛАКСОНА! С У П Е Р !!!
WOW! Be patient when you watch this 15-minute video! Do watch it ‘til the end.
Weird, wild and wonderful old steam-powered machines are shown here, which means there’s a lotta history here too.
This is one of the coolest things I’ve seen in a while, it’s like a train half track
How do you see where you're going in all the steam though 😅
@@scottanno8861 dose not matter steam powered half track.
Never get tired of watching that Case 150 road tractor plowing and rolling smoke (even though I know that's not power efficient.)
В чем не эффективно то???
В чем??
Он Case тянет 30 плугов за раз.
При этом нет бешеных трат на добычу нефти , переработку её, перевозку её, Ничего.
Этот же Case 150 , поедет в Лес, привезёт Дрова и на эти Дрова же, вспашет Поле. Где не эффективность??
Вы рассходы наверно считать не умеете.
@@LeonidMiklaev думаю про эффективность тут в том плане, что КПД очень низкий относительно сжигаемого топлива и расхода воды. Если работать часа 2-3, то скорее всего потребуется довольно много дров. В лесу вы их не получите, если не хотите нарушить закон. Не говоря уж о том, что древесину нужно сушить перед сжиганием. А если ее купить, то даже если выйдет дешевле бензина или солярки, ее объемы неудобно перевозить. Тоже самое и с водой, вам потребуется машина, что бы постоянно заправлять данный транспорт, вряд ли вы руками будете таскать сотни литров воды или будете ехать на нем до дома. К тому же для управления подобным аппаратом желательно 2 человека. Так же нужно регулярное обслуживание, ибо ломаться будет часто. Ну и самое главное, данный трактор никуда не поедет за пределы данного поля. Его максимальная скорость вероятно не больше 10-15 км в час. Что бы на нем работать где то чуть дальше дома, вам потребуется вызывать эвакуатор, что бы добраться до места. В конце концов не просто так отказались от паровой тяги.
@@Mirkin1992 а ты попробуй раздобыть Нефть сначала.
Сравни добычу Нефти весь цикл , затраты и сравни Съездить в Лес на дровах же ради Дрова.
И да тытакже не знаешь о других методах сжигания дров.
@@Mirkin1992 Вы бывали на Вахтах ? На бурении скважин?
Вы теряли на Вахтах Семьи?
Вы легко считаете о КПД, при этом уверен вы не Вахтовик и спите со своей женой и детьми а доме.
Вы вот эти Цены посчитайте. Как семьи ругаться Дети растут ради ваших КПД без отцов. Жены живут без мужей апосле уходят к другому.
Вы посчитайте в вашем гоебанном КПД Горе мужика вахтовика что на вахте остался без жены детей .
Я знаю что считающие КПД спят со своими женами играются с детьми тогда когда Вахтовик пол жизни отдает в Жертву ради вашего гребанного КПД.
@@LeonidMiklaev причем тут добыча нефти? Ты же не сам ее добываешь. Важно лишь соотношение твоих личных затрат к производительности данной машины. Но если смотреть на проблему в глобальном масштабе, как вы предлагаете, то получение дров выйдет в много раз дороже нефти. Неужели вы думаете, что дрова так просто получить? Если бы до сих пор транспорт в мире был бы паровым, цена на дрова возросла бы в десятки раз. А количество денег на выращивание деревьев вышло бы астрономическим. Ну и конечно самое главное в транспорте, это удобство. Если вам потребуется хранить вагон древесины и цистерну воды для работы своей машины, о какой эффективности может идти речь.
Talk about steampunk!
What a ride.
With these we can rebuild America! Beautiful.
Best heavy iron ASMR ever! In under 2 minutes no less.
I love how some of those late 1800s/early 1900s steam tractors are just rail locomotives they stuck treads and road wheels on.
They were not conversions they were purposely built as log hauling traction engines ,that pulled sleds loaded with as many as thirty logs on grooved ice haul roads .
I feel like if you take this on the road it'll break the asphalt
Thanks. I had no idea these existed. Priceless.
Вот это чудища! А сколько специфических знаний нужно, чтобы их оживить и поддерживать в таком прекрасном состоянии!😮
Чудовища.
There is something so satisfying in watching these old steamers start up
What’s the power output of that green tractor? Sounds powerful!
Its only 145 hp at 1,400 rpm but it has tremendous torque. The record for one of these machines (set in 1936) was hauling a sled train carrying 298 ton's of pulpwood. Here is some vintage video footage: ua-cam.com/video/FP7efJvoS9A/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/dBEjVnCZ23s/v-deo.html
You all are. Curators of an outdoor museum thx for your fantastic work
I like how he gives the whistle code when crossing the road 😀
Yes, its a bit of a blind corner for cars entering the parking lot from Government Road so we always give a warning whistle. We actually have a dedicated Lombard log hauler road that is about 85% complete. We just need to ease a couple of the curves and do the final grading.
Big flywheels, belts, chains, riveted iron plating, puffing smoke, and steam. I have such a respect for this era of technology. The way they developed ways to maximize, store, and transfer the often underappreciated power of steam is amazing. What they might have in archaic and somewhat dangerous design, they make up for in torque, horsepower, and durability. There's just something to be said about that. I love me a loud, purring big block v8, but you just can't go wrong with what's essentially a stream train on treads.
Even as old as these machines are, they are still viable.
Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.
this takes 'tank engine' to a whole new level
Никогда таких машин не видел. Респект мужикам которые поддерживают жизнь этой машине))
See? Now THATS a road train!
5:48 If you are quiet enough and did not scare off, you can see and here the shy Lokomotive in its natural, wooden habitat.
Im sure the day the old machine was built, they would have never dreamed that the old machine majority of parts would be driven like this so many years down the centuries! 😊😊😊😊😊
On the last part of the vid... the effortlesness of that steam tractor just pulling the plow is insane look at the witdth of that thing!
I'm always surprised how quiet those steam machines are
1:30 in Finland , this locomotive has been used in forest work in the winter. Now as a museum in Savukoski. The forest manage of Kemiyhtiö , Hugo Richard Sandberg ( 1849 - 1930 ) " Samperi " , ordered two steam locomotives all the way from America to transport the to the river for floting.
Os caras tem o Trator até hoje pra funcionar, mexer e curtir, para manter a história viva.
Потрясающе маашины. Смотрю второй раз . Нет слов .
Jusqu'à quel âge que l on s amuse la preuve est la bande de vieux fous extraordinaire j aime❤❤❤
Как здорово что люди сохраняют технику и историю развития технологий которая изменяет быт , культуру , и политику целых государств по всей планете 🌎
Fascinating, I thought the first vehicle only existed in the fevered imagination of mad max! Was that half track a one off or were there many of them back in the day? Nice to see you also have a thriving community of enthusiasts for these machines, across the pond.
I was going to ask whether that huge wing was a plough, until I saw the final sequence that confirmed it. Just wow, what a monster! I bet all of the oxen joined a union when they saw that!
Not a one off. From 1900 through 1917 the Lombard Traction Engine Co. of Waterville, built 83 of the steam powered log haulers. From 1914 through 1936 they produced over 300 of the gasoline powered (Tractor-Truck) machines. (we don't know the exact number) That included 10 ton models (as shown) 8 ton, 15 ton and 20 ton machines.
If my history is correct Lombard was the first inventor to successfully use a tracked vehicle. My wife and I actually looked at his house to buy in about 1990 or so. It had its own hydroelectric plant with water supplied by a small mill pond. I remember seeing the Gasoline powered log hauler at a dam on the Allagash River in northern Maine around 1958 or so. Could be the one at the Museum.
@@terryharper2024 very interesting, thanks. An impressive bit of kit
@@jamesrea8454 Correct! In regards to Lombard's house the recently removed the dam. The Lombard you are thinking of is now in the State Museum in Augusta. The machine we have was bought new by the City of Waterville and used for plowing etc. Later, it was sold to Starbird Lumber in Strong, Maine and eventually sold to a private collector who graciously has placed on long term loan to museum.
Has the chassis of a tank engine and wheels of a tractor. What a beaut!
That baby is wild !
ОЧЕНЬ ИНТЕРЕСНАЯ ТЕХНИКА !!! ОНА БЕЗЦЕННА , КАК ПЕРВЬІЙ ЗОЛОТОЙ ДОЛЛАРИ!!! СПАСИБО ВАМ ЗА РОЛИК !!! СПАСИБО !!!
The external combustion engine was sooo labor intensive.
I really like how the unique horn sound goes with that dream machine.
WDM in Saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada has 2 log haulers. They ran between SPRUCE RIVER FOREST RESERVE (Prince Albert National Park) to The Pas, Manitoba. One was rebuilt and the other is in storage. They also have a live steam Calliope.😊😊😊😊
Yes, those are Phoenix log haulers built under a license from Lombard. Really neat machines!
@@terryharper2024 《 they were amazing machines - there were 6 or 8 machines used in the forest reserve, there is a photo of a bunch sitting in the bush not being used. The photo either at Western Development Museun or at Prince Albert National Park.
@@davidmorrison3697 Cool! At the Maine Forest & Logging Museum we have four Lombard's in the collection including the 1907 steam powered Lombard shown in the video, a 1914 Steam powered Lombard. the 1934 Lombard Tractor-Truck (also shown) and a 1928 Lombard Model T dump truck - all are operational and demonstrated on a regular basis. We also have a 1919 Lombard tractor truck due to arrive as soon as the mechanical work is complete. ua-cam.com/video/SaT1IP8NL_w/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/dBEjVnCZ23s/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/_MYXzu7MJEM/v-deo.html
Сколько труда вложено в их восстановление. Моё уважение.
Wonderful!...
How many ploughshares was that Case pulling? Impressive!
Now that's an SUV(Steam Utility Vehicle) with a difference
1:10 Never do that again! The chain will break and cut the person in half or blow off the head
I can't see battery powered vehicles ever doing this.
Ich Liebe diese alte Technik Dampftraktor Genial
These machines were designed never to die
I know it's for logging and it's a brilliant piece of engineering, but my simple brain keeps thinking "sir toppam hat wants to invade poland"
The steam log hauler looks like a Road Locomotive. Tracks subbed for rail wheels, and since the engineer never had to steer on tracks, they just stuck on some turning wheels and a driver at the front. I hope the driver's assistant had some way to communicate with the engineer, like semaphores.
Actually no. Alvin Lombard of Waterville, ME. developed and patented the first practical crawler track system in 1900. Between 1900 and 1917 his company (Lombard Traction Engine Co.) built 83 of these machines. This one was built in 1907 and is only one of three operating examples. These machines were built new - they were not conversions of a locomotive. Just as they did back in the day - we use whistle signals for stop, forward and reverse.
WORKING ON FAVOURITE VEHICLE IN BETWEEN GREEN AND SWEET MUSIC OF BIRDS AWESOME
хорошая альтернатива постоянно дорожающему дизельному топливу это дрова
THATS A LITERAL MFING STEAM POWERED TRAIN WITH CATERPILLAR TREADS AND A STEERING WHEEL AT THE FRONT, AINT NO WAY THAT WAS A TRACTOR! 😂
It was never a locomotive (a "train" is a string of railroad cars). When this machine was developed in 1900, "Caterpillar" treads didn't exist. The person who developed and built this machine is credited with patenting and produced the very first practical crawler track system. Between 1901 and 1917 his company - the Lombard Steam Log Hauler Co. of Waterville, ME., produced 82 of these machines. Do a bit of research and you might learn something.
Tudo é muito estranho nesta oficina de inventos 😂😂😂
The coolest small boiler use I've ever seen was a video from South America and a guy have a small boiler propelling a tricycle. He would feed it by stopping and picking up some Twigs alongside the road. Now that's good fuel mileage!
Was watching that video then this one got recommended 😂
Cool😀👍I remember a big steam tractor abandoned just outside UTICA NY btwn Frankfort and Utica it sat back in the tress for years came by one day and somebody was cutting it out of the trees that grew up around it....sat back in there for years hardly know it was there unless you were real observant...that area was all crop fields back in the day I'm sure to support the city etc...and I'm sure that tractor worked all that land behind the Masonic Temple off Broad st and Center Rd...
Operating that train is a teamwork for sure. Most amazing... What a monster
I sure hope that these guys are training the next generation to care for and operate these amazing machines. 😎🤘☮
I assume the 'atmospheric' track was added in post? Definitely better than having loud music over everything and better than having nothing. Nice touch, even if the stereo doesn't shift.
Excruciatingly awesome!
Can't get anymore STEAMPUNK then that.
Kudos y'all ❤
Steam tractors are the scartiest machines I've ever seen. The locomotive wins the first place for me. Put red headlights on it in the front and drive it in the night in the forest. I love them!
Wow… that is literally a train but refitted with tracks… I honestly LOVE this idea! Kind of a shame more concepts like this weren’t tried! They could have used old retired shunting engines, refitted and restored them, and bam! Steam tractor!
I don't know if this is the case or not but this old steam tractor looks like it's an old steam locomotive that's been repurposed as a tractor...
Not a repurposed steam locomotive. This particular machine was built new in 1907. Between 1901 and 1917 The Lombard Traction Engine Company of Waterville, Maine built 83 of these machines.
So what kind of steam pressure do they run at?
Empty and loaded?
No one ever says that!
I guess next year at old thrashers I will find out for on the large pieces of equipment.
Is it 200 p.si., 300, 600, 10,000 p.si.?😮
The factory in 1910 stated the operating pressure as 175 psi. We are more gentle and run it between 125 and 135.