FoETipps: Level Up Your Arc, but do it the right way! in Forge of Empires This video explains the various possibilities to level up great buildings far beyond level 10. I will not only introduce these, but also rate them and make recommendations. The Arc will be om the focus as a very special example. The same hints also work for all other great buildings. I will show that depending on the level of your great building, different methods should be preferred. The simple method to add forge points to your great building is to pay them yourself. In case another player contributes forge points to your great building, he or she would receive a contribution reward for doing so. This you can use to your own advantage. All firther methods to level up a great building are better than only paying forge points to your own great building. Therefore such payments to your own great building should be limited to the number of forge points needed to secure other payments. This will be explained later. Support Chains A very common method to level up great buildings are support chains. Nearly each guild has dedicated messages for this. You add your great building to it and pay the defined number of forge points to the author of the previous message. As the next player will do the same you get returned the invested forge points. On top you have the chance of being one of the best supporters of a great building and to receive a contribution bonus. That is sent to the inventory and can be summed up there to really huge amounts. In the end these additional forge points help you to level up your great buildings faster. But these support chains got a negative image. Especially when very strong players and new players are in the same guild, these support chains are a disadvantage for weak players as these will never receive a decent contribution reward. Nit the support chains are bad, but the behavior of strong people is reckless - or at least simply thoughtless. Weaker player require a special consideration to have a fair chance in support chains. Sometimes it might be a good idea to create a support chain for new players only. Often it is enough to simply inform strong players, Many simply don't notice what they might cause to the weak guild members with what they do. Those who fill a great building using the methods, described in the following part of this video, and then let his guildmates fill the remaining forge points using support chains, simply cheats his guildmates. I only can encourage guilds to not allow that to happen. Knowing there are some handicaps coming along with support chains, I still recommend them especially for the lowest levels of great buildings. It is a time-efficient, attractive possibility to level up the own great building while receiving required blueprints as sponsor from other great buildings. And these blueprints you will need urgently as soon as you start upgrading your great building above level 10. From that level you then should reduce the usage of support chains and start to prefer the other methods described now. Fixed Exchange Partners Above level 10 of a great building I recommend to use fixed exchange partners from your guild or friendslist. These partners confirm 2 things to each other: 1. From collecting your daily forge points you invest a negotiated, fixed number of forge points every day into a specified great building of your exchange partner. He pays the same number in your selected great building. 2. Both negotiate a fixed rank in the list of contributors and take care that no other player will be a risk for that guaranteed rank. That rank is important for both, receiving forge pints in return and receiving the required blueprints of the sponsored great building. To avoid misunderstanding I highly recommend both players to add each payment in a message of a dedicated message chain. There you can also inform in case someone cannot pay at a certain date. Fixed exchange partners are most helpful if both want to push the same type of great building, currently being on a similar level. Example given a player with an Arc level 10 contributes to an Arc level 10 of another player with 120 forge points and receives the negotiated contributor rank 2, he will receive a guaranteed contribution reward of 78 forge points plus 2.001 medals and 3 blueprints. I already included the 31% bonus provided by the Arc level 10. That reward is already half of what is needed for doing the same on the next level of that great building. This makes it much easier to level up such great buildings. For the lowest levels of a great building this method requires too much micromanagement. Therefore I highly recommend to start above level 10 to use more and more fixed exchange partners instead of support chains. It is absolutely realistic to use 3 fixed exchange partners for the first three ranks. The remaining 2 ranks can then be offered to players who urgently need blueprints of that great building. The lower ranks of low level great buildings often do not provide forge points as a contribution bonus, but blueprints. Some players even find 5 partners for their great building. 1.9-sponsorship The Arc provides a unique bonus for contributors. Those who have the Arc on level 80, receive 1.9 times the normal contribution bonus. In many guilds the owners if such high level Arcs offer their guildmates to use that Arc bonus to their advantage. If a contributor can be sure to get the first rank if a level 30 Arc, he would not only receive a bonus of 420 forge points, but 798 forge points instead. This allows to contribute 798 forge points to an Arc level 30 without receiving something in return. The contributor's reward are the medals and blueprints. Unfortunately a player with such a high level Arc usually already has more than enough of these. This sponsorship is so efficient and commonly used that players receiving the contribution already feel this as something normal, forgetting that the contributor invests his or her time and uses a high level great building that was hard work to get. In guilds with weaker members you often find 1.8 or 1.85 sponsorships as Arcs are not high enough for more. It is very important to secure the contributor's rank. This is done best by paying forge points into your own great building until it is filled so much that the contributor's share is 50% of the remaining forge points. This way no neighbor can snipe that rank. Afterwards you can use another sponsor for rank 2. Before the third contribution bonus rank is filled, you again need to pay some more own forge points as the bonus for rank 3 is less than 50% of the bonus for rank 2. Same applies to ranks 4 and 5. The required number of forge points can be calculated by FoEhelper and it also can copy it to the clipboard. This makes it very simple to create a perfect line to ask sponsors for their help. Most guilds have a message chain dedicated to such a 90% sponsorship as it is important for all guilds that their members level up their great buildings. Please complete a level as fast as possible when you use such a 90% sponsor as he or she will get returned the invested forge points only on completion of that level. The faster the investment is returned, the earlier the next player can get help. In active guilds with many high level Arcs this is the most powerful method for leveling a great building. Bit you cannot rely on it only as in the lower levels you will always be short of blueprints. Therefore you will combine this method with fixed exchange partners to make sure that you have a steady flow if blueprints. In the medium range of great buildings, above level 30 and below level 70, the contribution reward is so big that you often only need a very small own payment to complete a level. Ambitioned players organize a team of 5 players for a fixed time and then they make 20 levels of a great building in a row. The contributors get back their forge points after each level. So they will not reach limits. The owner of the great building needs the forge points in the inventory that are required to complete each level. In the middle range of levels this is absolutely realistic. With such a level-up-party a great building can develop extremely fast.
When I was levelling my Arc using a 1.9x system, there were Arcs in the 50’s and going quickly while I was in the 20’s.... I did not have problems with blueprints because not only was I getting my own positions filled, I was also filling others’ positions 4 and 5 at 1.9x which meant I was getting lots of blueprints at a good price...
This is great. I wish a few more guild leaders would realise that smaller cities need separate swap threads as I have so many stupid arguments about this.
I used a different method to get my arc to 80. I use effectively a sprint system. Basically a group of 4 of us throw our dailies in a building going in turn (level go to next person level ect) then having the top 2 spots taken by 1.9s after level 20. we got our arcs from 10 to 80 in about 2 months.
Swap threads are a horrible idea at any level above 2. Lower level players can get an Arc Prints and 1,000's of medals in Iron Age in 1.9 threads by taking slot 5. Expansions and prints galore. Couple of other reasons but swapping is the slowest way to go.
Swapping is better at low levels, but I've found them useless in higher level guilds because you will find level 70+ GBs in the 100 FP thread, and it just clogs everything.
Smaller guilds have some use, but they basically are an inferior personal swap with someone...so I guess they're good if you don't want to swap with only one person because of social anxiety or something.
@@tails183 I have done both swap and 1.85 and 1.9. I found that even at an Iron Age level, you can level much faster with 1.9. My basis on this is I had 2 cities I started at the same time. I got Arcs on the same day. Both cities and guilds were fairly equal but one had a 1.9 thread. The Arc in the 1.9 thread guild reached L10 when the swap thread Arc was at L5. Both cities have about the same FPS in the bank and because of the 1.9 thread, I was able to place a Traz just today. BP that I never would get in a swap thread. Also have 5 more expansions than the other city. My swap thread Arc city was just moved to a 1.9 thread yesterday so I will be able to catch up. But that is my real world experiment.
@@ollienator_nl9047 You level your arc at level 22 on a daily basis using swaps, with a production of 200 FPs/day? Without spending from your FP bank? This doesn't add up or even make sense. Sorry.
Wow you can really dive down the rabbit hole with this game. Very well explained. BTW I was fascinated by your video on cashew nut production in 2018. I admit I picked up very little of the German, but it was interesting nonetheless :)
sorry, that is the problem if a non-native English speaker. The name 'support chains' was used in the guild I am playing and so I thought that it is the usual name. I hope everybody knows what is meant.
A swap thread is not a support chain. A swap thread is an even exchange of forge points.. A support chain involves taking advantage of the Arc bonus to reduce the forge points needed from the owner to level u- their GB. Swap threads do not do that.
Agreed. The building owner receives a far better return value on their own buildings for each FP they spend by prepping their buildings for 1.9 players, then they do for every FP spent in a swap thread (or support chain this video calls it). Going the 1.9 route, you are essentially using rewards boosted by 1.9 players across all 5 of your building's reward spots increasing your return value. This is only offset by your own costs of self-adding to your building to prep the reward spots. Using swaps, you typically pay a higher rate than 1.9 price to lock the spot, and also only rely on your own bonus used per lock spot that you initially overpaid. No matter the age of the building, 1.9 (or some other multiple close to it) is a far superior choice for players looking to maximize the buying power of their forge points.
Absolutely the way to go. My Arc is almost level 80 thanks to running a 1.9 leveling group and thread. There is no way I could have done it any other way
My Arc is just around level 50. What basically happens now is I have a guildie who contribute to my Arc and I do the same to him. After he's done placing FPs I open the Arc up in a thread. I don't have FOE Helper since I play on Android so I don't have a way to compute slots though. Should I still do swaps where I get no profits?
1. Support chain are use to quickly level up gb to lvl 10 and any reward you got are just bonus. There are other method that are more useful to get bp 2. I would suggest 3 partner for fixed group. Get 1.9 guy for p1-3 and P4 & P5 for group member for Bp...
I use a combination many times and have become successful with it. It is a timing thing of when to leave the point swap group and go all in on the 1.85 or 1.9 thread.
Always more than one way to skin a cat, but I disagree with the proposed method for getting BPs when you are just starting out. Trying to get them using generic swap threads is pretty hard when you're not making enough FPs to get spots. Here is the best way I have found in my four years of playing FOE. First off, dont worry about getting into a guild you plan to sit in for a while. You want to be guild hopping for your first few weeks. By guild hopping I mean join a guild, go through and aid everyone and then leave, then rinse and repeat. You get BPs from aiding and will accumulate a lot by guild hopping. I do this on all my worlds when I start and I can get full sets for many GBs very easily. It is also a great way to do volume sniping and gives you access to a lot of trades so make sure you check the trades in each guild before leaving. Another thing I do to supplement this is I add very high ranking players to my FL. I start at the top and work my way down adding as many of the high ranking players as possible. This is helpful in a few ways. One, you will get many late age BPs from daily aiding. Two, you can grab 5th place on their very high level GBs which will yield you A LOT of BPs as well as helpful medals to open expansions. Three, high age players are a good source to get cheap goods to build the GBs. After I have got all the necessary BPs, then I find a guild I plan to stay in for a while. In just under two months Im still in IA and Ive already built a TOB, LOA, Chateau, Traz, Zeus, COA and TOR. I also have the goods and prints to build my CDM, Arc, Cape, AO and Inno which I will be planting once I get my next expansion at 18,000 medals.
Can someone explain the benefits of swap thread? Because I think it's pointless. If you're not on the top 5, you get nothing. Might as well spend those fps on you're own building or use it to snipe neighbor. And the worse thing that can happen is an asshole with a hug fps bank could go in and snipe a 1st spot screwing over everyone who's been donating.
I totally agree! It's the higher level players who think they are a good idea, coz they get us poor suckers to donate 5FP and we end up in 15th position, while the top 5 positions go to those higher players. Currently having "discussions" with my guild about this, as they think it's better for me to participate in swap threads instead of using MY fp on MY gbs!
FoEhints, Can you help me. With the first five ages, Bronze to Late Middle Ages, how can we get tons of FPs, I see some and they must get at least 100 FPs a day, while I plod along with getting 1 every hour, plus the ones I receive from town hall daily what’s the secret. Could you make a video about getting Forge Points fast and daily. I do the Viking Settlement, and the GE to level 4 if opened to try and get as many as possible, but the GE is a maybe, and the Viking Settlement I get my 50 every fourteen days plus the smaller amounts I am looking at more getting them more regular basis like every day.
I try to secure at least 2nd place on other guildies Arc. Sure, even with the bonus reward I still end up paying at least 100 FP but then again that's about how much I earn a day.
how does the 1.9 thread help a lower level person when they are throwing away thousands of fps and getting nothing in return... Yes their Arc is growing, but that is a LONG time off for those who are just beginning to grow an arc
foe.tools/gb-investment/The_Arc/ does the calculating and creates text on the clipboard to be pasted into the message board. "The_Arc" is case sensitive and can be replaced by any other GB name such as Alcatraz.
You can also join a baby arc growing group to obtain the necessary BP until you're at the level where you can use the 1.85 thread without too much cost.
@@FoEhints I know that is why im asking for help, it looks complicated and i want to understand it before the event starts. ok no problem. waiting anctiously.
@@FoEhints bottlenecks is the key word! Identifying and removing the most constraining bottleneck to scale your pipeline from production to delivery. Fun game. Looking forward to your insights.
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@@FoEhints I have not come that far so far but looking at GBs I have seen it looks like it is a lot self donations like 20k fp for a lvl 130 arc. If no self donation all top 5 places would be a with a heavy loss in fp no matter what level arc you have. I would think that most that donate to such a GB are far beyond the need for BPs or medals.
@@PerTrygveMyhrer its little more than 10k fps of self donating for 130lv arc, people with such kind of lv arc usualy have other friends with similar levels , so they instead of 1,9 they are puting full be or 1,95 btwn each other
@@PerTrygveMyhrer The return value back to your own buildings for every FP spent self-prepping, is still the most cost effective leveling solution out there, even for buildings 100+. I have 3 x 100+ buildings on W, and still advocate adding your own FPs and inviting 1.9 players to lock your reward spots. If you concentrate first on your daily FP generating great buildings, invest in taking your Arc higher than level 80, your contributing to buildings becomes a revenue generator. Over time, the amount of FPs that you pile up make the costs of higher levels more palatable.
@@FoEhints Sorry, it was supposed to be a joke comment. Level 180 is level where contribution reward reaches 100% and it probably doesn't go above that. It costs about 1.6 millions FP to go from level 0 to 180, so it is something insane and most people stop midway at level 160.
Good timing. My Arc's at 39. I've been leveling with a 1.5 thread (and starting to get sniped 😠). I normally throw it on the swap thread after the first 3 or 4 spots are filled. Am I cheating the low level players by doing this ?
You need a new guild. Or if you’re the first in your guild to level your arc, you need new friends with a lvl 80 arc that could at least take 1-3 spots at 1.85
crankyinmv - ah got you. In that case, it would probably be best to make sure someone is on to take the spots before unlocking the next level (assuming you didn’t unlock all levels)
@@FoEhintsI'm constantly surprised at how many players don't know this. Great job continuing to communicate this out and for keeping the game a bit more accessible for all.
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bad one, come back with good tips or leave yt thanks m8
you are not forced to watch my videos. Unbelievable that you suggest someone to leave YouTibe only because you didn't like that specific video. What is wrong with you?
@@FoEhints He's just mad because he won't be able to snipe other people's Arcs as much once more people watch this video. LOL. I'm levelling up my Arc now & using your 1.9 method in a small swap group with 2 level 80+ Arcs. It's helpful to know that I'm going about it the right way. Thanks for the video.
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FoETipps: Level Up Your Arc, but do it the right way! in Forge of Empires
This video explains the various possibilities to level up great buildings far beyond level 10. I will not only introduce these, but also rate them and make recommendations. The Arc will be om the focus as a very special example. The same hints also work for all other great buildings. I will show that depending on the level of your great building, different methods should be preferred.
The simple method to add forge points to your great building is to pay them yourself. In case another player contributes forge points to your great building, he or she would receive a contribution reward for doing so. This you can use to your own advantage. All firther methods to level up a great building are better than only paying forge points to your own great building. Therefore such payments to your own great building should be limited to the number of forge points needed to secure other payments. This will be explained later.
Support Chains
A very common method to level up great buildings are support chains. Nearly each guild has dedicated messages for this. You add your great building to it and pay the defined number of forge points to the author of the previous message. As the next player will do the same you get returned the invested forge points.
On top you have the chance of being one of the best supporters of a great building and to receive a contribution bonus. That is sent to the inventory and can be summed up there to really huge amounts. In the end these additional forge points help you to level up your great buildings faster.
But these support chains got a negative image. Especially when very strong players and new players are in the same guild, these support chains are a disadvantage for weak players as these will never receive a decent contribution reward. Nit the support chains are bad, but the behavior of strong people is reckless - or at least simply thoughtless. Weaker player require a special consideration to have a fair chance in support chains. Sometimes it might be a good idea to create a support chain for new players only. Often it is enough to simply inform strong players, Many simply don't notice what they might cause to the weak guild members with what they do.
Those who fill a great building using the methods, described in the following part of this video, and then let his guildmates fill the remaining forge points using support chains, simply cheats his guildmates. I only can encourage guilds to not allow that to happen.
Knowing there are some handicaps coming along with support chains, I still recommend them especially for the lowest levels of great buildings. It is a time-efficient, attractive possibility to level up the own great building while receiving required blueprints as sponsor from other great buildings. And these blueprints you will need urgently as soon as you start upgrading your great building above level 10. From that level you then should reduce the usage of support chains and start to prefer the other methods described now.
Fixed Exchange Partners
Above level 10 of a great building I recommend to use fixed exchange partners from your guild or friendslist. These partners confirm 2 things to each other:
1. From collecting your daily forge points you invest a negotiated, fixed number of forge points every day into a specified great building of your exchange partner. He pays the same number in your selected great building.
2. Both negotiate a fixed rank in the list of contributors and take care that no other player will be a risk for that guaranteed rank. That rank is important for both, receiving forge pints in return and receiving the required blueprints of the sponsored great building.
To avoid misunderstanding I highly recommend both players to add each payment in a message of a dedicated message chain. There you can also inform in case someone cannot pay at a certain date.
Fixed exchange partners are most helpful if both want to push the same type of great building, currently being on a similar level. Example given a player with an Arc level 10 contributes to an Arc level 10 of another player with 120 forge points and receives the negotiated contributor rank 2, he will receive a guaranteed contribution reward of 78 forge points plus 2.001 medals and 3 blueprints. I already included the 31% bonus provided by the Arc level 10. That reward is already half of what is needed for doing the same on the next level of that great building. This makes it much easier to level up such great buildings.
For the lowest levels of a great building this method requires too much micromanagement. Therefore I highly recommend to start above level 10 to use more and more fixed exchange partners instead of support chains. It is absolutely realistic to use 3 fixed exchange partners for the first three ranks. The remaining 2 ranks can then be offered to players who urgently need blueprints of that great building. The lower ranks of low level great buildings often do not provide forge points as a contribution bonus, but blueprints. Some players even find 5 partners for their great building.
1.9-sponsorship
The Arc provides a unique bonus for contributors. Those who have the Arc on level 80, receive 1.9 times the normal contribution bonus. In many guilds the owners if such high level Arcs offer their guildmates to use that Arc bonus to their advantage. If a contributor can be sure to get the first rank if a level 30 Arc, he would not only receive a bonus of 420 forge points, but 798 forge points instead. This allows to contribute 798 forge points to an Arc level 30 without receiving something in return. The contributor's reward are the medals and blueprints. Unfortunately a player with such a high level Arc usually already has more than enough of these. This sponsorship is so efficient and commonly used that players receiving the contribution already feel this as something normal, forgetting that the contributor invests his or her time and uses a high level great building that was hard work to get. In guilds with weaker members you often find 1.8 or 1.85 sponsorships as Arcs are not high enough for more.
It is very important to secure the contributor's rank. This is done best by paying forge points into your own great building until it is filled so much that the contributor's share is 50% of the remaining forge points. This way no neighbor can snipe that rank. Afterwards you can use another sponsor for rank 2. Before the third contribution bonus rank is filled, you again need to pay some more own forge points as the bonus for rank 3 is less than 50% of the bonus for rank 2. Same applies to ranks 4 and 5.
The required number of forge points can be calculated by FoEhelper and it also can copy it to the clipboard. This makes it very simple to create a perfect line to ask sponsors for their help. Most guilds have a message chain dedicated to such a 90% sponsorship as it is important for all guilds that their members level up their great buildings.
Please complete a level as fast as possible when you use such a 90% sponsor as he or she will get returned the invested forge points only on completion of that level. The faster the investment is returned, the earlier the next player can get help.
In active guilds with many high level Arcs this is the most powerful method for leveling a great building. Bit you cannot rely on it only as in the lower levels you will always be short of blueprints. Therefore you will combine this method with fixed exchange partners to make sure that you have a steady flow if blueprints.
In the medium range of great buildings, above level 30 and below level 70, the contribution reward is so big that you often only need a very small own payment to complete a level. Ambitioned players organize a team of 5 players for a fixed time and then they make 20 levels of a great building in a row. The contributors get back their forge points after each level. So they will not reach limits. The owner of the great building needs the forge points in the inventory that are required to complete each level. In the middle range of levels this is absolutely realistic. With such a level-up-party a great building can develop extremely fast.
When I was levelling my Arc using a 1.9x system, there were Arcs in the 50’s and going quickly while I was in the 20’s.... I did not have problems with blueprints because not only was I getting my own positions filled, I was also filling others’ positions 4 and 5 at 1.9x which meant I was getting lots of blueprints at a good price...
Exactly, on those spots 4 or 5, you're only losing a couple of forge points and getting many blueprints
This is great. I wish a few more guild leaders would realise that smaller cities need separate swap threads as I have so many stupid arguments about this.
Another great video. This is exactly what I did when I started. But now I have 80 arc I only use 1.9 threads
I used a different method to get my arc to 80. I use effectively a sprint system. Basically a group of 4 of us throw our dailies in a building going in turn (level go to next person level ect) then having the top 2 spots taken by 1.9s after level 20. we got our arcs from 10 to 80 in about 2 months.
Swap threads are a horrible idea at any level above 2. Lower level players can get an Arc Prints and 1,000's of medals in Iron Age in 1.9 threads by taking slot 5. Expansions and prints galore. Couple of other reasons but swapping is the slowest way to go.
Swapping is better at low levels, but I've found them useless in higher level guilds because you will find level 70+ GBs in the 100 FP thread, and it just clogs everything.
@@tails183 Not arguing but tell me what advantage at any level there is for swap threads?
Smaller guilds have some use, but they basically are an inferior personal swap with someone...so I guess they're good if you don't want to swap with only one person because of social anxiety or something.
@@tails183 I have done both swap and 1.85 and 1.9. I found that even at an Iron Age level, you can level much faster with 1.9. My basis on this is I had 2 cities I started at the same time. I got Arcs on the same day. Both cities and guilds were fairly equal but one had a 1.9 thread. The Arc in the 1.9 thread guild reached L10 when the swap thread Arc was at L5. Both cities have about the same FPS in the bank and because of the 1.9 thread, I was able to place a Traz just today. BP that I never would get in a swap thread. Also have 5 more expansions than the other city. My swap thread Arc city was just moved to a 1.9 thread yesterday so I will be able to catch up. But that is my real world experiment.
@@ollienator_nl9047
You level your arc at level 22 on a daily basis using swaps, with a production of 200 FPs/day? Without spending from your FP bank?
This doesn't add up or even make sense. Sorry.
Wow you can really dive down the rabbit hole with this game. Very well explained. BTW I was fascinated by your video on cashew nut production in 2018. I admit I picked up very little of the German, but it was interesting nonetheless :)
FYI, I've never heard anyone call them support chains. The name I've seen used by every guild are 'swap threads.'
Same here, and after reading this comment i understand this video much better. thank you.
sorry, that is the problem if a non-native English speaker. The name 'support chains' was used in the guild I am playing and so I thought that it is the usual name. I hope everybody knows what is meant.
A swap thread is not a support chain. A swap thread is an even exchange of forge points.. A support chain involves taking advantage of the Arc bonus to reduce the forge points needed from the owner to level u- their GB. Swap threads do not do that.
@@calcityjoe You mean he's talking about 1.9 groups or 190% groups?
@@Yeliab417 couldn't you figure out by yourself that they are the same thing?
1.9 sponsorships is the only way to go. Everything else is subpar and a bad deal for a least one of the parties
1.85 is better because it allows the detonator to profit.
@@WokeandProud no, if u want profit ,lvl up your arc above 80lv
Agreed. The building owner receives a far better return value on their own buildings for each FP they spend by prepping their buildings for 1.9 players, then they do for every FP spent in a swap thread (or support chain this video calls it). Going the 1.9 route, you are essentially using rewards boosted by 1.9 players across all 5 of your building's reward spots increasing your return value. This is only offset by your own costs of self-adding to your building to prep the reward spots. Using swaps, you typically pay a higher rate than 1.9 price to lock the spot, and also only rely on your own bonus used per lock spot that you initially overpaid. No matter the age of the building, 1.9 (or some other multiple close to it) is a far superior choice for players looking to maximize the buying power of their forge points.
Absolutely the way to go. My Arc is almost level 80 thanks to running a 1.9 leveling group and thread. There is no way I could have done it any other way
My Arc is just around level 50. What basically happens now is I have a guildie who contribute to my Arc and I do the same to him. After he's done placing FPs I open the Arc up in a thread. I don't have FOE Helper since I play on Android so I don't have a way to compute slots though.
Should I still do swaps where I get no profits?
Great informative videos as usual!:) keep up the good work
1. Support chain are use to quickly level up gb to lvl 10 and any reward you got are just bonus. There are other method that are more useful to get bp
2. I would suggest 3 partner for fixed group. Get 1.9 guy for p1-3 and P4 & P5 for group member for Bp...
I contribute to my own buildings until the spots can be locked in for 1.9x. That makes the owner spend the least amount of fp possible.
I use a combination many times and have become successful with it. It is a timing thing of when to leave the point swap group and go all in on the 1.85 or 1.9 thread.
My Arc hit lvl 80 yesterday
You did it ! Thank you ! :)
Will you be releasing more power start episodes? I’m a new player and it’s really helpful.
yes, I have to complete this series
I'm already at level 80 with my arc. I'm working on my CoA at the moment. Once a person learns to do the math, they become Unstoppable.
Always more than one way to skin a cat, but I disagree with the proposed method for getting BPs when you are just starting out. Trying to get them using generic swap threads is pretty hard when you're not making enough FPs to get spots. Here is the best way I have found in my four years of playing FOE. First off, dont worry about getting into a guild you plan to sit in for a while. You want to be guild hopping for your first few weeks. By guild hopping I mean join a guild, go through and aid everyone and then leave, then rinse and repeat. You get BPs from aiding and will accumulate a lot by guild hopping. I do this on all my worlds when I start and I can get full sets for many GBs very easily. It is also a great way to do volume sniping and gives you access to a lot of trades so make sure you check the trades in each guild before leaving.
Another thing I do to supplement this is I add very high ranking players to my FL. I start at the top and work my way down adding as many of the high ranking players as possible. This is helpful in a few ways. One, you will get many late age BPs from daily aiding. Two, you can grab 5th place on their very high level GBs which will yield you A LOT of BPs as well as helpful medals to open expansions. Three, high age players are a good source to get cheap goods to build the GBs. After I have got all the necessary BPs, then I find a guild I plan to stay in for a while. In just under two months Im still in IA and Ive already built a TOB, LOA, Chateau, Traz, Zeus, COA and TOR. I also have the goods and prints to build my CDM, Arc, Cape, AO and Inno which I will be planting once I get my next expansion at 18,000 medals.
Can you make a video that explains trading goods and forge points? And discuss the price of goods between ages?
Suggested topic noted. I check what I can do here.
Check out FoeHints' video on the Dynamic Tower.
Can someone explain the benefits of swap thread? Because I think it's pointless. If you're not on the top 5, you get nothing. Might as well spend those fps on you're own building or use it to snipe neighbor. And the worse thing that can happen is an asshole with a hug fps bank could go in and snipe a 1st spot screwing over everyone who's been donating.
I totally agree! It's the higher level players who think they are a good idea, coz they get us poor suckers to donate 5FP and we end up in 15th position, while the top 5 positions go to those higher players. Currently having "discussions" with my guild about this, as they think it's better for me to participate in swap threads instead of using MY fp on MY gbs!
@@nette5597 it's basically a 'sneak snipe' by advanced guildmates against weak guildmates
FoEhints, Can you help me. With the first five ages, Bronze to Late Middle Ages, how can we get tons of FPs, I see some and they must get at least 100 FPs a day, while I plod along with getting 1 every hour, plus the ones I receive from town hall daily what’s the secret.
Could you make a video about getting Forge Points fast and daily. I do the Viking Settlement, and the GE to level 4 if opened to try and get as many as possible, but the GE is a maybe, and the Viking Settlement I get my 50 every fourteen days plus the smaller amounts I am looking at more getting them more regular basis like every day.
Ok, I will cover this in the next issue of the magazine
Build gbs which give fps like CC, CDM, HC, AO etc.
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Great video, but I am far from getting the arc
I try to secure at least 2nd place on other guildies Arc. Sure, even with the bonus reward I still end up paying at least 100 FP but then again that's about how much I earn a day.
how does the 1.9 thread help a lower level person when they are throwing away thousands of fps and getting nothing in return... Yes their Arc is growing, but that is a LONG time off for those who are just beginning to grow an arc
Can you explain how the 1.9 thread works, how to calculate donations to secure spots?
I hoped to provide all answer on this with this video:
ua-cam.com/video/IsYQNy3zkRo/v-deo.html
@@FoEhints this is the same video
@@hristohristov777 opps, sometimes difficult to see on my mobile
and you still need a more detailed explanation?
hmm, I'll think about what I can do
foe.tools/gb-investment/The_Arc/ does the calculating and creates text on the clipboard to be pasted into the message board. "The_Arc" is case sensitive and can be replaced by any other GB name such as Alcatraz.
Hello, When do you upload a new video from "foehelper" series?
working on it already, but the next video will be journal no 2/2020
What does the Arc actually give you
You can also join a baby arc growing group to obtain the necessary BP until you're at the level where you can use the 1.85 thread without too much cost.
And how would you suggest finding a "baby arc growing group."
@@nialcc You can check to see if your guild has one or you can form one yourself with other low level guild players.
@@WokeandProud - Thanks.
In one ear out the other, how do u get enough fp to prime your own gb🤷🏾♀️
The best source for buildings producing many forge points every day are the events.
Need an upcoming ST.Patricks day event video in english please...
I am working on it. The strategy to manage that minigame city is a bit tricky. Need to explain it carefully
@@FoEhints I know that is why im asking for help, it looks complicated and i want to understand it before the event starts. ok no problem. waiting anctiously.
@@FoEhints bottlenecks is the key word! Identifying and removing the most constraining bottleneck to scale your pipeline from production to delivery. Fun game. Looking forward to your insights.
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Hi will ARC DAILY GOODS collections for guild give you points?
for ranking.
absolutely yes. And it is a lot.
Verify it yourself: Look at your ranking points, collect, check ranking points again.
What level of GB is good to shift from fixed partner to 1.9 thread?
I'd say around level 10, but I did 1.9 from the get go. Didn't bother doing the private swap partner approach at all.
Damn that's the most stereotypical 'Hollywood' German accent I've heard outside of a movie.
what's the best age to stay for a diamond farm?
Any age if you're able to do the 64 levels of guild expedition every week
Depends what the guild needs. IA can take 66% attack to fight all 64; PE is the last age where the wells will produce regular goods for negotiations.
I am not sure that 1.9 sponsorship is the best way to go when going beyond level 100
What else would you recommend?
I never upgraded a great building above 100. Eager to read your experience.
@@FoEhints I have not come that far so far but looking at GBs I have seen it looks like it is a lot self donations like 20k fp for a lvl 130 arc. If no self donation all top 5 places would be a with a heavy loss in fp no matter what level arc you have. I would think that most that donate to such a GB are far beyond the need for BPs or medals.
@@PerTrygveMyhrer its little more than 10k fps of self donating for 130lv arc, people with such kind of lv arc usualy have other friends with similar levels , so they instead of 1,9 they are puting full be or 1,95 btwn each other
@@PerTrygveMyhrer The return value back to your own buildings for every FP spent self-prepping, is still the most cost effective leveling solution out there, even for buildings 100+. I have 3 x 100+ buildings on W, and still advocate adding your own FPs and inviting 1.9 players to lock your reward spots. If you concentrate first on your daily FP generating great buildings, invest in taking your Arc higher than level 80, your contributing to buildings becomes a revenue generator. Over time, the amount of FPs that you pile up make the costs of higher levels more palatable.
Instructions unclear. My Arc is now level 180. Please help.
level 180 is impressive
I cannot help in this case as mine is on level 120 only
@@FoEhints
Sorry, it was supposed to be a joke comment. Level 180 is level where contribution reward reaches 100% and it probably doesn't go above that. It costs about 1.6 millions FP to go from level 0 to 180, so it is something insane and most people stop midway at level 160.
Good timing. My Arc's at 39. I've been leveling with a 1.5 thread (and starting to get sniped 😠). I normally throw it on the swap thread after the first 3 or 4 spots are filled. Am I cheating the low level players by doing this ?
You need a new guild. Or if you’re the first in your guild to level your arc, you need new friends with a lvl 80 arc that could at least take 1-3 spots at 1.85
Also, I would then give 4th and 5th spots at 1.8 to guild members. 4th and 5th is cheap and abundant of bps
@@AntBeezy777 Sorry, typo. 1.85, not 1.5
crankyinmv - ah got you. In that case, it would probably be best to make sure someone is on to take the spots before unlocking the next level (assuming you didn’t unlock all levels)
Yes
Take this video down. This is how i make fps. WTF
Well it is way of everyone
Hmm. Not such a good citizen after all. LOL
1 dislike for no new advice
We all know it
and you don't think that there are new players who still are interested?
Yeps they are but you should consider older players too
So a single thing would be better
@@FoEhintsI'm constantly surprised at how many players don't know this. Great job continuing to communicate this out and for keeping the game a bit more accessible for all.
bad one, come back with good tips or leave yt thanks m8
you are not forced to watch my videos.
Unbelievable that you suggest someone to leave YouTibe only because you didn't like that specific video. What is wrong with you?
@@FoEhints He's just mad because he won't be able to snipe other people's Arcs as much once more people watch this video. LOL. I'm levelling up my Arc now & using your 1.9 method in a small swap group with 2 level 80+ Arcs. It's helpful to know that I'm going about it the right way. Thanks for the video.
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