The most hated map in the entire series

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  • @AzureGreatheart
    @AzureGreatheart 3 роки тому +9568

    “The summoning circle allowed you to summon even players who didn’t own the DLC.” Imagine getting summoned by another player, and ending up in Horse@&#% Valley before you knew the area existed.

    • @kenshinhimura9387
      @kenshinhimura9387 2 роки тому +455

      Imagine if other game devs were this awesome and cared about the players. You don't even have to pay for this DLC and you can still play it for free if someone summons you. Now that is just one of many reasons why FromSoftware is the best game dev on the planet.

    • @zantos4853
      @zantos4853 2 роки тому +1169

      @@kenshinhimura9387 Believe me, you don't want to play frigid outskirts.

    • @GoldenSunAlex
      @GoldenSunAlex 2 роки тому +819

      @@zantos4853 This. Summoning another player to frigid outskirts is not something 'nice' that the devs did.

    • @OhNoTheFace
      @OhNoTheFace 2 роки тому +361

      @@kenshinhimura9387 It's a terrible first impression of the dlc lol

    • @souljastation5463
      @souljastation5463 2 роки тому +50

      I finished rhe game but I didn't manage to find this area. It must be pretty well hidden

  • @odd-eyesfemboy2439
    @odd-eyesfemboy2439 3 роки тому +5099

    "The only way to leave the Frigid Outskirts is through a warp point that appears here".
    Me leaving in a body bag: Are you sure about that?

  • @nutria4258
    @nutria4258 2 роки тому +5052

    A single bonfire before the boss arena could have saved this area

    • @lilvaginastain6643
      @lilvaginastain6643 2 роки тому +64

      4 sure

    • @PerpetualCamel
      @PerpetualCamel Рік тому +440

      Inside the 3rd building is a perfect spot for it

    • @Chiefshadow4
      @Chiefshadow4 Рік тому +42

      Would've made it too easy.

    • @hckingking
      @hckingking Рік тому +736

      @@Chiefshadow4 it's better than unfair bullshit like this.

    • @ComicalConqueror
      @ComicalConqueror Рік тому +673

      ​@@Chiefshadow4how is a long respawn walk supposed to make it harder. It's just fucking annoying

  • @ZullietheWitch
    @ZullietheWitch  3 роки тому +5460

    The idea of being able to summon players who didn't own the DLC, allowing them to earn limited access to DLC items, was a respectable concept, it's just too bad about the areas they decided to let you summon them into.

    • @RamAurelius
      @RamAurelius 3 роки тому +763

      When the Female Moss Merchant curses the player to Hell, this is where she means.

    • @RisingOnion
      @RisingOnion 3 роки тому +130

      Can you showcase major differences between original dark souls 2 and sotfs?

    • @Kochen51
      @Kochen51 3 роки тому +234

      It's more that they designed the areas TO summon people. They're clearly unbalanced and unfun. If you summon other players it's still bad, but it's a bit better

    • @wealthybone2990
      @wealthybone2990 3 роки тому +39

      @@padraigkiley7120 yeah I felt like I was forced to always summon those two npcs.

    • @nucklehead718
      @nucklehead718 3 роки тому +2

      Is the music in the video the actual music for this map/level/location?

  • @RisingOnion
    @RisingOnion 3 роки тому +9049

    Summoning someone for this area is a great way to make them not buy it

    • @Paolo_Pinkas
      @Paolo_Pinkas 3 роки тому +95

      Haha...so true!!

    • @EnvoyOfRot
      @EnvoyOfRot 3 роки тому +291

      Worst marketing ever hands-down

    • @Yu__Narukami
      @Yu__Narukami 3 роки тому +49

      @@aarvlo This is a thing?? I never knew.

    • @monkeman5895
      @monkeman5895 3 роки тому +15

      @@aarvlo you can still summon players who have the dlc iirc

    • @delivererofdarknessshoguno1133
      @delivererofdarknessshoguno1133 3 роки тому +20

      I dunno, second dlc's coop area is pretty bad too, made worse by the fact that it leads to the reskin of the main game's one of the most broken bosses.

  • @gheorghestavila3590
    @gheorghestavila3590 3 роки тому +1708

    Fun fact: That damn ruins never covered me from Kirin, they kept attacking me while i was in the ruins, and kept spawning and spawning
    That's how in a run i almost got 9 kirins running round the area trying to kill me.ihatethismap.

    • @momochin1552
      @momochin1552 3 роки тому +4

      Gg

    • @harryunderwood9387
      @harryunderwood9387 2 роки тому +46

      I think the feeling's mutual.

    • @bljet4388
      @bljet4388 2 роки тому +78

      I discovered that they keep spawning on timer, so not only you had to kill those who were in front of you, you had to do it effectively and fast otherwise you'll get assfuggd

    • @redcell9636
      @redcell9636 2 роки тому +69

      ​@@bljet4388 oh and there resistance to magic. I barely tickled them with crystal soul spear. it also made it worse when they did th massive nerfs to sorcery because the pvp community cried like a bunch of babies, so the casting time became agonizing unless you shoved every point into adaptability and intelligence almost exclusively.

    • @TheSergio1021
      @TheSergio1021 2 роки тому +95

      ​@@redcell9636 "the pvp community cried like a bunch of babies" is the source for many annoying balance changes

  • @the_guiding_qui
    @the_guiding_qui 3 роки тому +5755

    Fun fact: you can avoid interacting with everything in this area before the boss by tiptoeing in chameleon form. It takes ~20 minutes.

    • @ManoredRed
      @ManoredRed 3 роки тому +279

      Not worth eet

    • @CallMeMimi27
      @CallMeMimi27 3 роки тому +549

      @oohanalligator I got a much better solution by just never going there. its not worth it. a shitty shield that restores health and a shitty greatsword that has the moveset of a longsword and a claymore. honestly I rather not deal with that bullshit at all.

    • @the_guiding_qui
      @the_guiding_qui 3 роки тому +32

      @oohanalligator worth if you savescum for a sl1 ng+7 CoC run

    • @pdan4
      @pdan4 3 роки тому +285

      All you need to do is stop moving (summons included) when the fog gets thick. The horses won't spawn.

    • @dmonedge6575
      @dmonedge6575 3 роки тому +70

      @@CallMeMimi27 Man ngl i have choosen that option too... but feels kinda bad... i mean.. Lud and Zallen are the last bosses that i need to kill...

  • @spectrasoulfaire215
    @spectrasoulfaire215 3 роки тому +5044

    Imagine trudging through this snowy hellscape in a dress and heels. Now that's dedication.

    • @theone-tg4ey
      @theone-tg4ey 3 роки тому +165

      Someone had to pave the way

    • @altair658
      @altair658 2 роки тому +77

      our poor zullie suffering for us

    • @Ajehy
      @Ajehy 2 роки тому +114

      Prom night in Vermont.

    • @TheActualMrLink
      @TheActualMrLink 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ajehy f

    • @loatist
      @loatist 2 роки тому

      A hoe never gets cold

  • @TheodoricFriede
    @TheodoricFriede 3 роки тому +4654

    This area feels like it was made in direct response to people asking:
    "What could possible be worse than a seemingly unfinished area, wreathed in an eye melting orange glow, surrounded by lava and dragon asses, with a terrible, gimmicky, final boss?"

    • @ivain8704
      @ivain8704 3 роки тому +434

      It's just one long-ass journey through a nightmare, and each time you fail you have to restart. Considering how you can barely see in front of you, it would not have killed them to make the whole thing a circle up until the chasm bridge, where you could then perhaps have used an invisible road to unlock a shortcut. It would still be nasty and challenging but at least you'd not have to redo the entire damn area to retry a boss.

    • @BlackSabbath628
      @BlackSabbath628 3 роки тому +462

      What's funny / messed up is that I suspect Frozen Outskirts isn't even unfinished. I suspect it's just cruel by design.
      Ever felt like the game or the devs hate you? Well the Frozen Outskirts is the embodiment of that. Its designed to mess with you.

    • @alphapegasus9761
      @alphapegasus9761 3 роки тому +29

      That area gave me claustrophobia ngl

    • @justanotheridiot8906
      @justanotheridiot8906 3 роки тому +43

      It’s bad that I didn’t know what area you were talking till you mentioned the terrible boss

    • @GrulbGL
      @GrulbGL 3 роки тому +1

      @@justanotheridiot8906 if i should guess, it would be demon ruins from dark souls 1, (but at least it feels finished and actually good, but the battle agains bed of chaos is terrible...)

  • @kun
    @kun 3 роки тому +2981

    Sir we ran out of characters for the NPCs in the new DLC. What do we do?
    "Better call Saulden."

    • @joshbryan2230
      @joshbryan2230 3 роки тому +54

      Underrated.

    • @TupDigital
      @TupDigital 3 роки тому +27

      Criminally

    • @mujariwa3696
      @mujariwa3696 3 роки тому +19

      Man of culture right here.

    • @ashuranero5721
      @ashuranero5721 3 роки тому +6

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Zany_98
      @Zany_98 3 роки тому +40

      "Call Saulden for all your NPC needs and he'll be with you in a jiff, Yes you heard right, Saulden will help you with any DLC area in your snazzy new video game! (that's incredible!!) That's right so Call in today at 077-Saulden and get an exclusive 50% off just for today (Holy cow!!), again that's 077-Saulden, Hope to see you soon good Citizens of Drangleic."

  • @Not_an_alligator
    @Not_an_alligator 3 роки тому +3746

    I like this area on paper, but it was executed rather poorly. Should've had a bonfire at the end or something.
    I always thought, maybe it should've been the starting area for the Ivory King DLC. Finding a whole city to explore at the end of this level would've been a much better reward than the double Aava reskin we got

    • @Sleepy_Dandelion
      @Sleepy_Dandelion 3 роки тому +640

      Honestly your first phrase sums up perfectly how I feel about the entirety of DS2: "I like this idea on paper, but it's executed poorly".

    • @fanimation617
      @fanimation617 3 роки тому +231

      @@Sleepy_Dandelion at least the pursuer idea works

    • @spawnofchaos9422
      @spawnofchaos9422 3 роки тому +180

      @@fanimation617 I wish we get something akin to the Pursuer in Elden Ring

    • @erkhaanst
      @erkhaanst 3 роки тому +90

      I was really surprised by ds3 bonfire's placing execution after ds2.

    • @legday9398
      @legday9398 3 роки тому +10

      @@spawnofchaos9422 i almost certainly think we will

  • @PancakeBreakfast
    @PancakeBreakfast 3 роки тому +3140

    If you didn't have to travel so dang far every time you wanted to fight the boss. This area might have actually been one of the more loved areas of the game.
    Imagine PVP in a snowstorm

    • @KhangNguyen-um4rg
      @KhangNguyen-um4rg 3 роки тому +443

      Seriously. Why can’t they just stick a bonfire in front of the gate like they did with so many other bosses

    • @PancakeBreakfast
      @PancakeBreakfast 3 роки тому +179

      @@KhangNguyen-um4rg or some short cut

    • @PancakeBreakfast
      @PancakeBreakfast 3 роки тому +53

      @@linkkraft3358 most DLCs in a DS game. So maybe they rushed it. Or at least that part

    • @the4given196
      @the4given196 3 роки тому +92

      @@PancakeBreakfast the ds2 dlcs. The other 3 dlcs were pretty awesome

    • @YGOFosho
      @YGOFosho 3 роки тому +19

      You're high, this area was despised

  • @rinerwainkler3108
    @rinerwainkler3108 3 роки тому +3820

    The best strat i found for this area is to play literally anything else instead.

    • @prosaic.7944
      @prosaic.7944 3 роки тому +103

      That's also my strat for the whole game🤣🤣🤣

    • @studmuffin3264
      @studmuffin3264 3 роки тому +43

      @@prosaic.7944 Nah this game was fire

    • @prosaic.7944
      @prosaic.7944 3 роки тому +123

      @@studmuffin3264 Yeah, dumpster fire🤣🤣🤣

    • @studmuffin3264
      @studmuffin3264 3 роки тому +15

      @@prosaic.7944 Better than dark souls 1

    • @prosaic.7944
      @prosaic.7944 3 роки тому +75

      @@studmuffin3264 maybe before the release, while it was unfinished🤭🤭🤭... Like Dark Souls 2🤣🤣🤣

  • @Owen-oy4dw
    @Owen-oy4dw 3 роки тому +3061

    Blindness ✅
    No bonfires ✅
    Relentless Enemies ✅
    Respawning Enemies ✅
    Safe houses that enemies can walk into ✅
    Reused boss but just a gank version ✅
    Longest boss run back in the history of mankind ✅
    Honestly if the area just had a bonfire at the end barely anybody would care about it, it’s just the fact that it’s so bad and you have to do it again and again and again.

    • @pootislord3112
      @pootislord3112 3 роки тому +128

      @oohanalligator Except the distance between safehouses is too long even with great timing to not at least encounter 1 or even 2 kirin on your way who will then proceed to gank you in the heal house. Also yeah they despawn eventually after you nonstop grind them for an hour because you end up having kill them all 45 times in total before they despawn.

    • @Ghorda9
      @Ghorda9 3 роки тому +14

      @@pootislord3112 don't bother despawning them, takes too long, it's much faster to just learn how to kill them before the next blizzard and then make a run for it to the next ruin, doing it this way you only encounter two of these the whole way.

    • @user-xn1xd4mg4j
      @user-xn1xd4mg4j 3 роки тому +76

      Better to skip the ruins altogether. Aim for the sun and hug the right boundary until you reach the chasm. The *only* worthwhile piece of loot in the area happens to conveniently be placed on the ridge of the chasm anyway. No need to go exploring and fighting 20+ reindeer when you can fight 3-5 and reach the boss in a couple minutes without having to use more than an Estus or two.

    • @PurpleTaco2959
      @PurpleTaco2959 3 роки тому +3

      Damn im suprised yall still remember the runs. I got this for ps3 when all dlcs dropped then dropped the game after NG++++

    • @rileywilliams4972
      @rileywilliams4972 3 роки тому +33

      You couldn't have possibly summarized it better. Somehow, ds2 fans will justify anything.

  • @Captain_Kalari
    @Captain_Kalari 3 роки тому +920

    This area really needed a huge, ruined castle at the end with an arena to fight the Twins in. That would have been so, so sick.

    • @bimmer8602
      @bimmer8602 3 роки тому +125

      And an extra bonfire

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 2 роки тому +28

      @@bimmer8602 yeah, what I heard here is that it's the fact you have only ONE bonfire and have to try to run from Kirin all the way from the start of the level if you die that's insane. Why the devs are seemingly expecting this to be one and done is strange to me.

    • @whenallelsfails21
      @whenallelsfails21 Рік тому +10

      @@marhawkman303 I think this was the point in their development careers where they just wanted to troll people still. That or they seriously thought 2 player areas were actually a good idea.

    • @RAYHANREHEMAPUTRA-ir6ll
      @RAYHANREHEMAPUTRA-ir6ll 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@whenallelsfails21 its supposed to be challenge area just like the one with blue smelter demon and the one with three npc bosses. They are designed with co-op in mind. Thats why they only have 1 bonfires too, the challenge is to go through all those trash run and beat the hard boss in the end in one single run.

    • @whenallelsfails21
      @whenallelsfails21 8 місяців тому +1

      @@RAYHANREHEMAPUTRA-ir6ll yeah, I know that now. I also know that having another person wouldn't have made those areas more fun in any way, just more tolerable.

  • @kiramcdonalds7321
    @kiramcdonalds7321 3 роки тому +5850

    I really like the concept of seeing a single hollow wandering aimlessly through the snow wasteland

    • @americanremains5697
      @americanremains5697 3 роки тому +137

      Shame the result is cancer

    • @left4shred406
      @left4shred406 3 роки тому +173

      He gives me hope.

    • @s_t_r_a_y_e_d
      @s_t_r_a_y_e_d 3 роки тому +391

      because it's a reflection of you failing

    • @FellowOfHammer
      @FellowOfHammer 3 роки тому +9

      @@s_t_r_a_y_e_d lol

    • @doc1439
      @doc1439 3 роки тому +85

      Ya if you could see it through the horrendous blizzard. I refuse to subject myself to this bs.

  • @m.s.e.advanced2842
    @m.s.e.advanced2842 3 роки тому +6044

    Arguably the best location in DS2 and the worst area in the entire series are located in the same dlc

    • @francismcaleister
      @francismcaleister 3 роки тому +149

      Old Chaos?

    • @kunstlerischeintelligenz471
      @kunstlerischeintelligenz471 3 роки тому +1570

      It's funny how Elyeum Loyce, Brume Tower and Shulva are some of the best areas in the game and Frigid Outskirts, Iron Passage and Cave of the Dead are some of the worst.

    • @canceracar
      @canceracar 3 роки тому +91

      Typing the same thing and I read your post. So true. Nothing but gank

    • @canceracar
      @canceracar 3 роки тому +372

      @@kunstlerischeintelligenz471 absolutely fuck iron passage and I remember the first time I tried to run past the guillotine gates.... Didn't bode well

    • @consumerjtc5835
      @consumerjtc5835 3 роки тому +61

      Best entrance in the series too.

  • @CosmicMischief
    @CosmicMischief 2 роки тому +177

    I can't help but laugh at the sped up footage of you sprinting because it makes me think that Zullie regrets wearing that outfit in a blizzard 🤣🤣🤣

  • @nikolaosboukouvalas449
    @nikolaosboukouvalas449 3 роки тому +863

    "I will always be here... watching over you..."
    - Saulden, apparently literally.

    • @katze-ai822
      @katze-ai822 8 місяців тому +2

      "I" More like "We"
      mf has a entire army

  • @Curlorly06
    @Curlorly06 3 роки тому +2604

    Man, I remember this “fun” area. Seems kind of neat on paper. A wasteland plagued by a never ending blizzard, filled with mystic creatures who attack adventurers… it’s too bad that the execution of the idea made this whole area seem like a literal chore instead. And if you die to Lud and Zallen, tough stuff, you gotta tread the entire map again.

    • @gokublack8342
      @gokublack8342 3 роки тому +29

      I never knew this place even existed lol

    • @kacperzimowski4626
      @kacperzimowski4626 3 роки тому +51

      @@gokublack8342 then you haven't truly finished DS2

    • @gokublack8342
      @gokublack8342 3 роки тому +91

      @@kacperzimowski4626 I beat the game twice I managed to miss that coffin both times somehow though

    • @startrail1251
      @startrail1251 3 роки тому +250

      @@gokublack8342 luck was on your side then, apparently

    • @gokublack8342
      @gokublack8342 3 роки тому +9

      @@startrail1251 But now I know about it so I have to do it next time I do a playthrough

  • @remingtongagnard4442
    @remingtongagnard4442 3 роки тому +904

    The horses constantly popping out of the whited out blizzard was annoying at times but it was also super intense and even in such an open area felt claustrophobic! The lack of any real variety or complex buildings really makes it a drag tho.

    • @szczypawa
      @szczypawa Рік тому +14

      its fun exactly once and then it turns into a nightmare

    • @pedoncule1419
      @pedoncule1419 Рік тому +12

      In a similar fashion as the tomb of giants that turns the game truly terrifying but everyone hated it

    • @RAYHANREHEMAPUTRA-ir6ll
      @RAYHANREHEMAPUTRA-ir6ll 8 місяців тому

      ​@@pedoncule1419i personally love tomb of giants lol. If you have the maggot head, its good to explore it the first time for how eerie it was.

  • @Jm-ki4su
    @Jm-ki4su 3 роки тому +603

    "so you're telling me it was all saulden?"
    "always has been" *muffled sounds of beard violence*

    • @raulparrado1547
      @raulparrado1547 3 роки тому +9

      That last part is a reference to the best gorilla joke of 1897 ?

  • @The5lacker
    @The5lacker 3 роки тому +2859

    "A surprising number of NPCs are actually Saulden."
    It's Saulden all the way down is it?

    • @ZullietheWitch
      @ZullietheWitch  3 роки тому +967

      I've been thinking of doing a video about the faces of all the player model NPCs in Dark Souls II. Drangleic's family trees are very tightly knit.

    • @vinny3283
      @vinny3283 3 роки тому +191

      @@ZullietheWitch makes sense, most kingdoms were tightly knit.

    • @TheCulab
      @TheCulab 3 роки тому +114

      Weirdly enough, pretty much all of the invader npcs have unique faces just like the friendly human npcs, but you'd never see them in normal gameplay.

    • @aceboogie8941
      @aceboogie8941 3 роки тому +28

      Who’s Saulden?

    • @MammalianCreature
      @MammalianCreature 3 роки тому +36

      @@vinny3283 So much incest...

  • @Rc3651
    @Rc3651 3 роки тому +1078

    I never played far enough in DS2 to see this so this was extremely bizarre to watch. Between the music, the barren low-poly void filled with breathing but lifeless zombies, and the edibles this felt like a guided tour of someone else's dream. "Oh, here's a Sauldron. Oh, and here's another Sauldron. You know, a surprising number of people are Sauldron. Anyways..."

    • @MrAndersonLP
      @MrAndersonLP 3 роки тому +15

      Lmao

    • @blazaybla22
      @blazaybla22 2 роки тому +72

      It kind of had the feel of a relatively high budget Petscop

    • @retro_tcb
      @retro_tcb 2 роки тому +85

      a lot of ds2's areas kinda have a dreamy atmosphere imo

    • @dameoncroft6312
      @dameoncroft6312 2 роки тому

      Same feeling lol

    • @remilenoir1271
      @remilenoir1271 2 роки тому +50

      @@retro_tcb That's because they are not finished.
      The whole dreamy feel of Ds2 isn't intentional, it's a direct result of the player having to fill by himself the gaps in the unfinished world.
      Ds2 fans will say it's great and unique, and they would be right (though uniqueness doesn't warrant quality).
      People that don't have the same appeal for the game will see it for what it is.

  • @RamAurelius
    @RamAurelius 3 роки тому +946

    To this day, Lud and Zallen are the only bosses in the Souls series that I have yet to beat. I have no intention of ever dealing with this area again either.

    • @Not_an_alligator
      @Not_an_alligator 3 роки тому +291

      I've beaten them exactly once, just so I can be proud that I've beaten every soulsborne boss.
      Needless to say, I feel no pride and it wasn't worth it

    • @emperortgp2424
      @emperortgp2424 3 роки тому +45

      get the crown from the king that lets you stay human and you'll be able to summon infinitely, ez

    • @benma1116
      @benma1116 3 роки тому +40

      For me it’s Laurence from bloodborne. Legit forgot he existed until ng+ but I had no intention of playing the game through again. Maybe I’ll fight him in my bl4 run

    • @RyderX240
      @RyderX240 3 роки тому +3

      Haha, yeah, I've got it exactly the same

    • @yourdad5799
      @yourdad5799 3 роки тому +53

      @@benma1116 Oh boy you're gonna SUFFER let me tell you that

  • @h3adcrabbio
    @h3adcrabbio 3 роки тому +822

    I do absolutely love the vibes of it. Like... just endless snow and horizon. The emptiness but also knowing that there are Things out there. I've always liked desolation and this map has it.

    • @zeehond604
      @zeehond604 3 роки тому +51

      true, this is one of my favourite areas in the game. cave of the dead and iron passage suck though lol

    • @c.m.9369
      @c.m.9369 3 роки тому +55

      I can actually see that. My favorit area in the series is the large swamp in "Demon's Souls" where this is the exact case: Huge, you can barely see anything and you're just completely lost in it.
      I like this idea with the snow storm on paper, but unfortunatelly, I think it's really poorly executed, at least for my taste.
      Strangely enough, I probably would have prefered it, if it had been larger and more to discover. But the fact that it just becomes this linear slog makes it just really dull and annoying for me.

    • @vit968
      @vit968 3 роки тому +6

      Huh, me too. I really like blizzards.

    • @ericschuster2680
      @ericschuster2680 3 роки тому +2

      cope

    • @ggleplussuxx4787
      @ggleplussuxx4787 3 роки тому +27

      I was stunned too. Even though it was very rage-inducing, but it was something very novel, atmospheric and captivating too. You had to actually learn cues to navigate. Definitely a thing to remember and a positive one for that matter. In general this crown DLC with its winter theme was the most amazing aesthetically.

  • @vilek_7235
    @vilek_7235 2 роки тому +506

    The worst part about this area for me was when I decided to try exploring it instead of following the path you are meant to
    I learned my lesson that completionism is not always a good attribute

    • @BustyNutz
      @BustyNutz 11 місяців тому

      It's is this was just the worst game for it buggy s that depends on stat allocation doesn't help

    • @ElliottSith
      @ElliottSith 10 місяців тому +1

      There is that one single petrified dragon bone just sitting on the ground away from everything else though

    • @vilek_7235
      @vilek_7235 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ElliottSith those are farmable tbh

  • @vit968
    @vit968 3 роки тому +254

    *_"The snowstorm can't get us here."_*
    - Donald Duck moments before getting ganked by Frozen Reindeer

  • @icaine16
    @icaine16 3 роки тому +369

    I've beaten those bosses once, just to say I did it, and now I'll never have to experience this area again.

  • @Leon-169
    @Leon-169 3 роки тому +531

    I will never understand how in the world anyone working on this game thought this was a good idea. A giant snowy area that you can barely see in, filled with Kirin who seemingly spawn out of nowhere suddenly, with only three locations to give you a rest here (and the last one has an Ice Knight because screw you), all leading to an optional boss fight.
    And what is that boss again? Is it something that’s difficult but fair like Dark Lurker? Is it something that has significant lore implications like King Vendrick? Is it an awesome duel with a swordsman like Sir Alonne?
    Nope. It’s a reskin of Ava from the start of the DLC. Only this time there’s two of them and they have the ability to heal themselves while taking half damage. And there’s not an OP weapon or a cool item after the boss, it’s just the boss.
    What an immense disappointment…

    • @iroveashe
      @iroveashe 2 роки тому +68

      I'm convinced they simply don't playtest some things

    • @18skeltor
      @18skeltor 2 роки тому +86

      I think the devs of the games have always had it in their core philosophy that frustrating level design can increase enjoyment because it creates an obstacle to overcome- which is what most AAA games lack, being super easy and handholding. However, where the frustration stems from is 🗝️, nobody likes to fail again and again when it's outside of their control. I love fighting O/S or Midir knowing I'll probably get my ass kicked, but that it's also a huge obstacle to overcome and I'll feel like a true warrior while sitting stoned in my room.

    • @crackededge9351
      @crackededge9351 2 роки тому +29

      @@18skeltor This is exactly it. The foundation of a good challenge is keeping rng from being a significant determining factor of victory.

    • @cblrtopas
      @cblrtopas 2 роки тому +15

      Still, theres something about this area I will always remember fondly. Theres just something so satisfying about overcoming this area through sheer determination.

    • @jamesguy2265
      @jamesguy2265 Рік тому +1

      Waaaa waaa waaaaaaah

  • @SkaerKrow
    @SkaerKrow 3 роки тому +374

    I’m looking forward to the lore video that will explain how Saulden and all of his duplicates were actually an attempt by a long dead lord to recreate the Chosen Undead.

  • @frills333
    @frills333 3 роки тому +694

    Eleum Loyce is one of the greatest areas in the series, a massive sprawling enviorments with that is full of secrets, short cuts, and a feeling of interconnected ness.
    Frigid Outskirts was made by a psychopathic sadistic goblin creature fromsoft had locked up in their basement that broke out one day and made this location.
    The fact they’re both in the same DLC is still mind boggling to this day.

    • @ronaldbernik7357
      @ronaldbernik7357 3 роки тому +55

      It’s not supposed to be interesting or pretty though, it’s supposed to be bleak and boring, a place that shows what happened to criminals or hollows when they were captured, you were sent to the frozen tundra to wander lost in a blizzard for all eternity, or until you were buried under the snow. Personally I like the outskirts, the long trek gives you an idea about how fucked you really were if you were exiled here.

    • @anubis2044
      @anubis2044 3 роки тому +87

      Yes, it's the same Goblin that comes out from the basement to INSIST that ALL Fromsoft games MUST have a poison swamp area. All of them, even when it doesn't make sense.

    • @kouron
      @kouron 3 роки тому +11

      @@anubis2044 Now I like this Goblin.

    • @IAmDdie1
      @IAmDdie1 3 роки тому +16

      @@anubis2044 that's to do with a contract they have with the goblin, keeping it in the basement

    • @snazzyfeathers
      @snazzyfeathers 3 роки тому +8

      @@ronaldbernik7357 How is anyone supposed to know that though? Plus I feel like regardless of the lore of the area its not going to make a difference after you've died for the thousandth time not being able to figure out where in the fuck to go with no ability to leave

  • @sapphireluv2705
    @sapphireluv2705 Рік тому +6

    > summon 3 npc summon
    > make your way into the fog gate
    > send all of the npcs back to their home using Black Separation Crystal
    > fight the boss

    • @LordDeBahs
      @LordDeBahs 3 місяці тому

      yeah safest route to let npc agro them and run straith to gate

  • @KHlover1995
    @KHlover1995 3 роки тому +414

    > Kirin being annoying
    MH players: "Here we go again"

    • @zman4727
      @zman4727 3 роки тому +14

      I honestly enjoyed fighting Kirin. The only time I struggled was MR Kirin, but that was because my armor was bad and I got cornered by a Barioth halfway through. Maybe it's worse in other MH games but World's Kirin was enjoyable

    • @HezakHQ
      @HezakHQ 3 роки тому +1

      @@zman4727 I enjoyed kirin too but everyone I talk too says it's terrible and are never willing to hunt it.

    • @AsgneonthebesT
      @AsgneonthebesT 3 роки тому +23

      Kirin is not even a fight, it's just chasing a horse around for 10-20mins

    • @wallacesousuke1433
      @wallacesousuke1433 3 роки тому +16

      @@AsgneonthebesT And getting paralyzed and stunned and run over by a unicorn that serves as snack for a monke :D

    • @Kaiji...
      @Kaiji... 3 роки тому +3

      I thought Kirin was one of the more bearable monsters, all you do is run around dodging lightning and smack its face a few times lol. BUT, if you've ever gone against a GOLD CROWN KIRIN it's THE WORST, it's so big you can BARELY hit its stupid face.

  • @tellurianapostle
    @tellurianapostle 3 роки тому +601

    I only ever played through this area once and it was a huge emotional rollercoaster, ran out of heals before the boss duo but somehow managed to to victory.

    • @shlorbleflorbnad6927
      @shlorbleflorbnad6927 3 роки тому +10

      hell yeah

    • @cgecko3
      @cgecko3 3 роки тому +29

      The two bosses aren't actually difficult I beat them in 3 tries, it's getting to them that's the damn problem. Fuck the Kirin fighting three at a time is literally the worst and not knowing where the entrance is at half the time or having to heal as soon as you enter the boss fight is a pain in the ass.

    • @jeanmclean6703
      @jeanmclean6703 2 місяці тому

      Holy cow, I just did the same yesterday
      The part with the "rollercoaster" is 100% correct because that's how I felt when my weapon got broken, AND THE 2ND FOE SUDDENLY STARTED HEALING...

  • @sushisoulsborne
    @sushisoulsborne 2 роки тому +318

    Thank god Elden Ring’s consecrated snowfield shows that Fromsoftware learned from this mistake of a map

    • @puckmccormick7129
      @puckmccormick7129 2 роки тому +95

      Snowfield is the worst map in elden ring lmao

    • @sushisoulsborne
      @sushisoulsborne 2 роки тому +120

      @@puckmccormick7129 no that goes to Lake of Rot

    • @Tulip_bip
      @Tulip_bip 2 роки тому +43

      they really learned a lot, i dont think there was any area that felt bad to go through in elden ring. even the lake of rot honestly lmao

    • @puckmccormick7129
      @puckmccormick7129 2 роки тому

      Lake of Rot is only bad the first time. Area is small, out of the way, straight forward, and an easy to obtain low faith requirement spell trivializes the status effect. It really isn't that bad. Snowfield however, is just pure cancer and your reward for beating it is only more cancer.

    • @neamraven
      @neamraven 2 роки тому +70

      The Snowfield in ER is better than Horsefuck Valley, but not by much. Tanimura hasn't learned a lot.

  • @tomthestone1470
    @tomthestone1470 3 роки тому +599

    "The Kirin are one of the reasons the area is so despised"
    THE reason you mean.

    • @luisfilipe2747
      @luisfilipe2747 3 роки тому +117

      The fact that if you die to the boss you have to run for almost 5min to get to the boss again is also one of the reason that everyone despite this area

    • @thesnatcher3616
      @thesnatcher3616 3 роки тому +14

      @@luisfilipe2747 And people said that Ds1 had long catwalks...

    • @LuizAlexPhoenix
      @LuizAlexPhoenix 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah, they are constantly swarming you so you can't appreciate much.

    • @armando92
      @armando92 3 роки тому +15

      @@luisfilipe2747 same problem with sir alonne only that is worse since you have time limit and (i think) have to place a sign inside for your friend to summon you

    • @Bodmanford
      @Bodmanford 3 роки тому +15

      Dark souls 2 has either great areas or completely awful ones. No inbetween

  • @dazzle-o1086
    @dazzle-o1086 3 роки тому +236

    I've been in this area a few times, and I've never encountered either of those human NPCs that were shown here. It's scary to know that they were in there with me the whole time.

  • @sanitysanitation
    @sanitysanitation 3 роки тому +94

    I just wish they had provided a bonfire before the boss. That would have made this area harsh but playable without regrets, IMO

  • @nido16100
    @nido16100 3 роки тому +269

    I like this area so much... *aesthetically.* I love tromping through the snow with a bunch of summons, going from ruin to ruin. But these ice unicorn ki-rin things really do just ruin it so much. I still try to beat it often but it feels like so much wasted time. Shame, because wintery DLCs are basically an automatic favorite for me.

    • @deragafer5928
      @deragafer5928 3 роки тому +8

      Monster Hunter World: ICEBORNE
      anyone?

    • @paps3841
      @paps3841 3 роки тому +4

      @@deragafer5928 yep, I wanted to see an Oroshi Kirin in Iceborne but I guess we'll have to wait.

    • @masterblaster2678
      @masterblaster2678 3 роки тому +10

      Yeah, snow is aesthetic as hell. I loved Ashes of Ariandel because of that.

    • @safijivvaboi5081
      @safijivvaboi5081 3 роки тому

      @@deragafer5928 hehe

    • @blak4831
      @blak4831 3 роки тому +2

      @@deragafer5928 Honestly Iceborne didn't really do it for me on the wintry vibes. Wonderful expansion in every sense of the word, but it just didn't tickle the snow area itch for me. Not enough blizzard, really. Frozen Islands in Rise has the same issue really. It's just the desert area but white and less vertical

  • @dandragon01
    @dandragon01 3 роки тому +106

    Imagine Gerudo Desert without a lens of truth and a murderhorse

  • @BaddyPlays
    @BaddyPlays Рік тому +2

    I repressed the memory of struggling thru this area!! Thanks for popping up in my feed!

  • @superafgbg167
    @superafgbg167 3 роки тому +71

    Twilight Princess is one of my all-time favorite video games and I just wanted to say that it means a lot to me hearing its soundtrack in these videos. Puts a smile on my face every time. Still holding out hope that it'll come to the Switch some day!

    • @father_opan4358
      @father_opan4358 3 роки тому +2

      You said it.

    • @Sorinian
      @Sorinian 3 роки тому +2

      I haven't fully played the HD version. But the GameCube version has my money over the Wii version. Do to a readjustment to the mechanics to better suit the default pointer option on items, you get items like the Gale Boomerang not working correctly for how it was designed to be implemented. I also as a side note, love playing as the Cuccos.

  • @jazzbrew68
    @jazzbrew68 3 роки тому +223

    I ended taking a few days killing those damned reindeer in the different zones so they wouldn’t respawn. Boss fight is cake compared to trying to get there in one piece. Not a fan.

  • @Meitti
    @Meitti 3 роки тому +25

    Funnily enough this was my favorite co-op assistance area because it took like 5 seconds for someone to summon me. And I liked the "deadly storm" idea and even the respawning horse, the worst thing about it is the boss which is just two tigers with ridiculous damage.

  • @Howjadoo22
    @Howjadoo22 3 роки тому +61

    Music choice, as always, on point.

    • @unison_moody
      @unison_moody 3 роки тому

      I feel like Snowpeak would've been better. :P

  • @quitesomething3505
    @quitesomething3505 3 роки тому +513

    Could you show us all White and Red phantoms with ring of living equipped?
    It is rather hard to appreciate npc costumes due to appearance of the phantom.

    • @Houldey
      @Houldey 3 роки тому +49

      +1 for this, would love to see the local inhabitants fashion. Not sure how much of a pain it'd be though, sotfs has a bazillion npc friends & invaders tbh lol.

    • @Nylspider
      @Nylspider 3 роки тому +4

      Replying so that Zullie might see

    • @monkeman5895
      @monkeman5895 3 роки тому +16

      It’s all Saulden

    • @ThomasWilliamsMusik
      @ThomasWilliamsMusik 3 роки тому +9

      @@monkeman5895 Always has been

    • @Sykroid
      @Sykroid 3 роки тому +1

      Bump

  • @tommcd7597
    @tommcd7597 3 роки тому +3

    I love your videos. Chill to watch and you always uncover really interesting tidbits about my favorites series. Subbed.

  • @jessesutton7985
    @jessesutton7985 3 роки тому +156

    How could people hate such an area that clearly took such dedication to craft? That couldn't have taken any less than an hour to put together. A masterpiece is what I see.

    • @kindlingking
      @kindlingking 3 роки тому +17

      More work ≠ higher quality

    • @Ramon-gg3bd
      @Ramon-gg3bd 3 роки тому +8

      The video game version of minimalistic art.

    • @yourdad5799
      @yourdad5799 3 роки тому +17

      @@kindlingking You're not saying that this area isn't garbage

    • @MatiasMapache1337
      @MatiasMapache1337 3 роки тому +24

      Easy, because if you die fighting the tigers, you have to worry (again) of not making it to the boss due to the fucking horses that not only charge at you, but they can fly and summon lightning, i hate this map more than i hate myself, and i'm a LoL player

    • @yourdad5799
      @yourdad5799 3 роки тому +2

      @@MatiasMapache1337 r/woosh

  • @aaronjohnston2751
    @aaronjohnston2751 3 роки тому +77

    Even outside of Monster Hunter, it seems that Oroshi Kirin are still absolutely awful to fight against.

  • @erowiid2000
    @erowiid2000 3 роки тому +4

    I love how you put the Snowpeak Ruins theme in the video. Twilight princess probably has the best soundtrack in my opinion

  • @Wespa64
    @Wespa64 3 роки тому +192

    I believe that they should have placed magic crystals in each ruin that lessens the blizzard for the reminder of the playthrough.
    Would have even used 3 pharros lock stones for them if they implemented them behind pharros walls.

    • @garybrown2039
      @garybrown2039 3 роки тому +7

      Now that is good criticism and game design concepts.

    • @MaxMustermann-nl2mk
      @MaxMustermann-nl2mk 3 роки тому +5

      @@garybrown2039 Indeed, enemy variety that increases in difficulty upon reaching each ruin could've perhaps also benefitted the area, instead of only spawning the same enemy all the times.

    • @Ghorda9
      @Ghorda9 3 роки тому +2

      a bonefire at the end would also help a lot.

  • @akatsukitheassassin3503
    @akatsukitheassassin3503 3 роки тому +136

    Doing a no death run including all areas was pain but 90% was from this area.

    • @fatalishuntinghorn
      @fatalishuntinghorn 3 роки тому +1

      And the other 10% shrine of amana?

    • @akatsukitheassassin3503
      @akatsukitheassassin3503 3 роки тому +3

      @@fatalishuntinghorn my build used bow heavily so shrine wasn't that bad.

    • @fatalishuntinghorn
      @fatalishuntinghorn 3 роки тому

      @@akatsukitheassassin3503 u lucky one

    • @ManoredRed
      @ManoredRed 3 роки тому +5

      @@fatalishuntinghorn I hear people complain about Shrine of Amana, but don't recall it being that bad. Then again I had a tank build, so I probably just put on a huge shield with huge magic defense or something.

    • @fatalishuntinghorn
      @fatalishuntinghorn 3 роки тому +2

      @@ManoredRed i don't used a Shield in any souls and i don't want so yea

  • @Sunny_Haven
    @Sunny_Haven 3 місяці тому +1

    I just played this area in Scholar and I honestly found it pretty fun, though I was constantly summoning Abess and O'Harrah (as well as Vengarl when I found his summon sign) when going through it. It started becoming a bit of a slog after a couple of tries but that probably was because it was really late and I had made the dumb decision to stay up a while longer and was hoping to beat it before I went to bed. To me, it was really fun running through the area with a party, having the odds stacked somewhat against us but being able to overcome it, and I was really pleased to see the summons would go with me into the boss fight as well. The music of the boss fight made it feel more epic with how much fighting there was going on as well. It captured an essence of teamwork and cooperation that I had never really experienced in the Souls games besides Elden Ring with the Seamless Co-op mod, and it's something I wish was more present in the Souls games.
    I can totally see why pretty much everyone despises this area. The snowstorm mechanic with the Kirin ambushing you (especially towards the chasm bridge where two or three can spawn in short succession) can definitely feel awful. I do wish they at least made a unique boss for this area (or at least reused a boss that didn't feel as shitty to fight). I kinda wish the runback wasn't so long or there was a bonfire before the boss or something. I'm not saying that everyone is wrong, I just really enjoyed the area a lot more than I thought it would, especially with what I heard from it in challenge runs. I would even try to gain the aggro of the Kirin as I had a maxed out greatshield with high stability and also high defense, in an attempt to defend Abess and O'Harrah (Vengarl was with me tanking hits). I even would use the Pumped Up gesture at the summoning circle or right before the boss fight as a sort of roleplay thing, even though I was just summoning NPCs, as if to say "come on guys, we got this!".

  • @bruh-shinjikasaienjoyer
    @bruh-shinjikasaienjoyer 3 роки тому +112

    So glad I beat Lud and Zallen first try so I never had to come back.

    • @capo2371
      @capo2371 3 роки тому +2

      Nice dee bee dee pic

    • @potato88872
      @potato88872 3 роки тому

      me too

    • @dreadknight0
      @dreadknight0 3 роки тому

      To my surprise after wipe a bit with the white tiger I couldn't believe I finish both in first try too.

    • @leovanilla6833
      @leovanilla6833 3 роки тому +3

      I have never used summons to beat a boss but after several thousands runs of this annoying place I gave in. Only boss in the entire FromSoft library that I never beat by myself.

    • @LuizAlexPhoenix
      @LuizAlexPhoenix 3 роки тому +1

      I never died to them nor the Killins but that is because I always go there overleveled while full of healing items and AoE spells/pyromancies. It's more of a slog than a challenge at that point.

  • @BeanerMan13
    @BeanerMan13 3 роки тому +148

    The reason why Saulden has given up and sits by the "total wordwide deaths" monument is because you killed him at every location already and he's sick of it
    Lol

    • @abaddon130
      @abaddon130 3 роки тому +7

      We might've killed him at Demon's Souls too, I don't remember his name but I'm referring to the Blue Phantom at Nexus, they're identical.

    • @LuizAlexPhoenix
      @LuizAlexPhoenix 3 роки тому +8

      @@abaddon130 The Crestfallen Warrior is kind of a staple since then. Also, DS2 reminds me a lot of the original Demon's Souls. So I wouldn't be surprised if they used him as a model or a nod to Demon's Souls.

    • @abaddon130
      @abaddon130 3 роки тому +1

      @@LuizAlexPhoenix it seems as Crestfallen reencarnates in every Souls game, Crestfallen Warrior at DeS, Crestfallen at DS1, Saulden at DS2, but I'm not sure about DS3 tho.

    • @lonekraken2637
      @lonekraken2637 3 роки тому +6

      @@abaddon130 It would be hawkwood for ds3 but he has a bit more lore than his crestfallen predecessors in the previous games

    • @craigauclair4026
      @craigauclair4026 3 роки тому +1

      He the one that gives you the ring for the blue sentinels covenant in Majula?

  • @gibbons9599
    @gibbons9599 3 роки тому +157

    Honestly I love this map due to how desolate and foreboding it is. You usually see these kinds of areas as deserts with sandstorms in games, so the snowfield feels unique. I think it would have been a much better experience to keep the horse spawns though to wandering “out of range” as a punishment.

  • @heibk-2019
    @heibk-2019 3 роки тому +170

    This place is the main reason im always like "nah" when i think about doing a new playthrough

    • @fabi3790
      @fabi3790 3 роки тому +4

      Of I do a playthrough I hardly dl the dlcs
      And if.. that area is mostly not included
      And if i really do play it.. i summon the NPCs for that shit

    • @SombraBranca
      @SombraBranca 3 роки тому +49

      just don't go there

    • @wealthybone2990
      @wealthybone2990 3 роки тому +4

      Dude I did this on my first ever playthrough of the game with killing every boss and this one was the most painful one to do, I think mostly all the dlc bosses were a pain for me especially like Sir Alonne and Fume knight.

    • @fabi3790
      @fabi3790 3 роки тому +10

      @@wealthybone2990 whats so bad about this and sir alonne in my opinion is the way to the boss. Its shit
      Same with the blue smelter demon

    • @wealthybone2990
      @wealthybone2990 3 роки тому +1

      @@fabi3790 I'd agree on the way to reach those bosses were fucking painful but I hate the smelter boss though sir alonne was a fine but a struggling one to fight especially if you fuck up.

  • @cordyceps182
    @cordyceps182 3 роки тому +285

    Honestly, one of the most disappointing things is how barren the area actually is.

    • @RahatAzim998
      @RahatAzim998 3 роки тому +67

      I mean the area is called the frigid outskirts. Can't really have a bustling town there. It's like the Arctic.

    • @obscure.reference
      @obscure.reference 3 роки тому +8

      Rahat Azim doesn’t make it a good level

    • @Melqhii
      @Melqhii 3 роки тому +59

      @@RahatAzim998 yeah but it could've used more environmental detail to compensate. An outpost here, a frozen half-eaten corpse left behind by the kings pets there, dead invading soldiers from a forgotten age scattered about, etc

    • @aquasomnus
      @aquasomnus 3 роки тому +7

      My men at Fromsoftware literally pulled up a classic Tranzit

    • @noop9k
      @noop9k 3 роки тому +4

      Imagine that in addition to the blizzard and the horses you could also fall into a barely visible hole.
      Would be a top DS2 experience.

  • @ancel2236
    @ancel2236 4 місяці тому +2

    These things have a bigger move pool than like 80% of bosses it's crazy

  • @legitbusinessownergus7620
    @legitbusinessownergus7620 3 роки тому +70

    This place made me cry for 10 hours

  • @SasukeFromPart1
    @SasukeFromPart1 3 роки тому +164

    I just wish they added a bonfire that would be closer to the bridge atleast. Luckily, I was able to slay those twin kitties so I didn't have to run for 3 mins + everytime 😭

    • @soulreaper1461
      @soulreaper1461 3 роки тому +14

      That's really the worst part of all

    • @raven75257
      @raven75257 3 роки тому +14

      Welcome to Dark Souls series. EVERY SINGLE DARK SOULS GAMe has some idiotic runback(s) for no reason other than to waste players time. Most souls-likes even copy this for some dumb reason
      Thank god for Salt and Sanctuary and it's Shrine mechanic. The amount of annoying runback is absolutely minimal

    • @ManoredRed
      @ManoredRed 3 роки тому +10

      @@raven75257 Its to increase the stakes of the bossfight. It seems to be worse at the beginning of the games though. Its almost as if the devs are testing the player's will at first, and later on they decide to just stop annoying the player.

    • @monkeman5895
      @monkeman5895 3 роки тому +1

      @@ManoredRed run backs are at their worse in the late game of the series: 4 Kings, The Twins and Lud/Zallen

    • @ManoredRed
      @ManoredRed 3 роки тому +5

      @@monkeman5895 Fair enough about the 4 Kings, I didn't think the Twins were bad, but then again I beat them in a few tries. Lud/Zallen are located in an area that is entirely poorly conceived.

  • @luisrojo616
    @luisrojo616 2 роки тому +24

    You know what? I played every From Software game with the exception of sekiro and i completed every single one of them (right now i'm finishing elden ring). But the only boss i never could fight are those damn cats, for that fucking zone, after 2 hours of not knowing where to go and dying to those shitty ice zebras i said "i'm not having fun, and this is optional so fuck it" and never played it again. So thanks for showing me what i was missing, is something i always wanted to know without having to suffer it again

    • @memberofchat2825
      @memberofchat2825 5 місяців тому

      you didnt play king's field or evergrace or shadow tower

    • @luisrojo616
      @luisrojo616 5 місяців тому

      @@memberofchat2825 yeah I guess you're right. But I was referring to the soulsborne of From Software. I think that's the point of this post.

    • @memberofchat2825
      @memberofchat2825 5 місяців тому

      @@luisrojo616 you should try to say souls games or soulsborne. i dont know why but it bothers me a bit that people dont aknowledge all they did before the souls games

    • @luisrojo616
      @luisrojo616 5 місяців тому

      @@memberofchat2825 I'll try, but in exchange you should try not saying randoms in the internet what to do.

    • @memberofchat2825
      @memberofchat2825 5 місяців тому

      @@luisrojo616 haha, no

  • @fea365y
    @fea365y 3 роки тому +273

    This map is so hated. That even though I finished the DS2 several times, I didn't know it existed.

    • @brandonlozano8184
      @brandonlozano8184 3 роки тому +23

      Honestly, Eleum Loyce isn't too bad and it's pretty cool when you're on the hunt for the Loyce Knights. The Ivory King boss fight is also really cool, albeit a little frustrating with the continually spawning Charred Loyce Knights. Avoid the Frigid Outskirts. You can have the Eleum Loyce experience and NOT enter the outskirts. I raged for a good while before I did research, found out EVERYONE hates it and thinks it's the worst and even mentioned the "boss soul weapon" of the 2 tigers sucks. So yeah. I'm avoiding that

    • @kacperzimowski4626
      @kacperzimowski4626 3 роки тому +15

      Then you haven't truly finished DS2.

    • @nicholasdavidson2256
      @nicholasdavidson2256 3 роки тому +44

      @@kacperzimowski4626 whatever. It's not like From send you a medal in the post :P
      I mean... they probably should.

    • @M1ndblast
      @M1ndblast 3 роки тому +29

      @@kacperzimowski4626 No, they did. This map may as well not exist.

    • @explicitreverberation9826
      @explicitreverberation9826 3 роки тому +1

      This map is hell froze over. Hated it.

  • @一admin
    @一admin 3 роки тому +72

    Wouldn't mind if From did more areas as wide and open as the Outskirts but with more to explore around. It was kind of exciting exploring this area during the first day of the DLC's release during the brief two seconds I wasn't being annoyed, and before I realised there wasn't actually much to see.

    • @mtoumiification
      @mtoumiification 3 роки тому +8

      I think Elden ring will be there for you

  • @PerpetualNoob
    @PerpetualNoob 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this video. I hated this area so much thanks to those Kirin. It is the only area in the entirety of the Soulsborne series, I never completed.

  • @zigmus00A
    @zigmus00A 3 роки тому +69

    Looking back on this map all these years later it's no surprise everyone hated this. It's got all the makings of bad ideas one after another, and yet I can't help but look back on this place so fondly after all these years. This place had some of the best PVP moments for me during DS2s most active years, and I helped Gwyn knows how many people get through this place! 😄

    • @cursedlight8318
      @cursedlight8318 3 роки тому +5

      If only there were just an end to the horses but i did like one thing about the blizzard itself made it feel unique its been mostly caves, castles, and towers, lava places. Only place with weather i suppose fog kinda counts but not as epic.

    • @kacperzimowski4626
      @kacperzimowski4626 3 роки тому +2

      bad ideas? just git gut

  • @losersbecomewinners2043
    @losersbecomewinners2043 3 роки тому +77

    It’s cool seeing this area without the blizzard. I think this would have been a more fun area (with a little less horror) if there was more in there to explore. More ruins and stuff, maybe with a way to dispel the blizzard or make it a little less…. Obscuring.

    • @blazaybla22
      @blazaybla22 3 роки тому +2

      I like the final idea a lot, actually. I’m sure there’s a better example in the games but the one that pops into my head is how you can illuminate the Lost Sinner fight. Or I guess also just the parts when you can remove environmental hazards like turning off the Ballista in DS3.

  • @Akutikun
    @Akutikun 3 роки тому +1

    These videos are always so cute with how they are presented.

  • @BenjaminQ23
    @BenjaminQ23 3 роки тому +7

    Man, I hadn't heard that Snowpeak Ruins theme in years. Gave me some serious nostalgia.

  • @Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce
    @Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce 3 роки тому +4

    3:14 I was hoping that Zullie would at least briefly point this out, but that lootable item there is the most valuable thing in this area. It's the "Ring of the Living" which lets you appear "human" (meaning you won't have any aura, red, yellow, blue or white) when you're in someone else's world. It's particularly useful if you want to roleplay as an enemy in the area you invaded someone. It's also useful during co-op if you want to try and trick an invader so they don't know who the host is.

  • @Civ33
    @Civ33 Рік тому +3

    Me when finally making it to the boss:
    "phew, finally made it. Now, where can I find that bonfire. After all that, there has to be one around here......right?"

  • @That_One_Sunshine_Knight
    @That_One_Sunshine_Knight 3 роки тому +13

    "The only way to leave the frigid outskirts is this beam of light at the end."
    Yeah.
    Or dying.

  • @Zenmuron3
    @Zenmuron3 3 роки тому +21

    1:09 I wish I could see the hitbox of this charge attack. I've beaten this area many many times, but I am still unable to dodge this attack with any confidence or consistency. I feel as if it lingers and it has a lot of tracking.

    • @axelbrionac4614
      @axelbrionac4614 3 роки тому +1

      Same. On ng Is not that much of a deal, getting hit once in a while by the charge, but on ng+ AND ng+2 for the first Time in Ds2, I decided to use a shield just to survive the charge.

    • @Chaoblahippo
      @Chaoblahippo 3 роки тому +2

      dodge to the side and a bit to the front. go to the horses right side. and yes it lingers

  • @TheHonoredMadman
    @TheHonoredMadman 3 роки тому

    Snowpeak manor for music. This is why I love this channel

  • @FelipeMendes1999
    @FelipeMendes1999 3 роки тому +20

    Nice video Zullie, I only have difficulty to remember who was Saulden lol

    • @RisingOnion
      @RisingOnion 3 роки тому +21

      Hes the crestfallen knight at majula, beside the statue that shows the total amount of deaths

    • @FelipeMendes1999
      @FelipeMendes1999 3 роки тому +13

      @@RisingOnion oh thanks, I didn't even know this guy has a name.

  • @koholos
    @koholos 3 роки тому +76

    Watching Zullie’s skirt flap so fast as she runs is really funny.

  • @MJ-vd8bj
    @MJ-vd8bj 3 роки тому +14

    One of the mean problems in this area is how your weapon gets always broken before even reaching the boss(es)

    • @LordDeBahs
      @LordDeBahs 3 місяці тому

      there is spell that repair shit . and there is also consumable . + ring that boost durability heavily . dlc dragon also degrade weapons heavily . these snowcats too

  • @maximilianfrank8730
    @maximilianfrank8730 3 роки тому +11

    1:31 Ahh Filianore Help us! Wait... wrong game

  • @xavier_arai
    @xavier_arai 3 роки тому +138

    Yup! No questions asked, just hate the blind and jump scare type of environment this map brings... Though... It is the entire aesthetic of the area, so it was well designed

    • @thedeerhunter32
      @thedeerhunter32 3 роки тому +17

      I noped out of this knowing the bosses were bad reskins. I did the other b.s. areas in DS2...just nope on this

    • @jakedonlon490
      @jakedonlon490 3 роки тому +5

      Adding...loads....of....dots....for no....reason

    • @Taiakami777
      @Taiakami777 3 роки тому +4

      @@jakedonlon490 there were barely any in there, quit being an ass

  • @aijint
    @aijint 2 роки тому +1

    I love your zelda soundtrack choice for your videos

  • @jmrishun
    @jmrishun 3 роки тому +22

    Tbh I like this area a lot. Such emptiness, fear of what can appear in the blizzard and the excitement to see what lies in the next ruin. That feeling was great when I played this DLC.

  • @DrMcFly28
    @DrMcFly28 3 роки тому +49

    I actually didn't mind this map - I liked how you needed to wait for the lulls in the blizzard to find the next landmark.

  • @reagansido5823
    @reagansido5823 6 місяців тому +2

    Something I've thought of about this entire frozen king DLC.
    They really really REALLY didn't want you doing a Loyce knight cosplay. On the one side you've got this, an annoying area with an annoying reskin gank boss, locking off their weapon and shield.
    and then on the other hand, you have a massive grind for Loyce souls locking off their armor.
    Just wanting to look like a Loyce knight is a huge undertaking.

  • @E_Bats
    @E_Bats 3 роки тому +8

    Did this game + DLC 3 times and never knew the existence of this area! Holy hell, I wonder what other things I need to discover yet...

  • @REALdavidmiscarriage
    @REALdavidmiscarriage 3 роки тому +11

    I‘m so triggered by the fact you didn‘t step into that warm and comfy healing pool!

  • @Blotto-Shekel
    @Blotto-Shekel Місяць тому

    I've played through at least 7 times and have no memory of this

  • @holasoyunapersonahd9098
    @holasoyunapersonahd9098 3 роки тому +10

    I didn't have the dlc ,but with friends I could visit this place a couple of times, it is impressive to see it without the blizzard

  • @Dokka-Bae
    @Dokka-Bae 3 роки тому +9

    I agree so much its even worse that shrine of amana

  • @alexanderbowlby4568
    @alexanderbowlby4568 3 роки тому

    Congrats on all these views I’m happy to see this channel take off
    Please help ask old man for miracle builds

  • @Zantetsu13
    @Zantetsu13 3 роки тому +5

    -Somebody somewhere: "... when hell freezes over!"
    -Fromsoft: "And I took that personally"

  • @redeyejedi9504
    @redeyejedi9504 3 роки тому +16

    I'm actually proud to say I beat this (eventually) on my first game in DS2.

  • @alexrivers8163
    @alexrivers8163 3 роки тому +2

    Player: removes head armor slot
    GM: You were actually saulden all along

  • @soulechelon2643
    @soulechelon2643 3 роки тому +39

    I remember almost one-shotting this solo, but died to the bosses. I was so annoyed by the area in general that I refused to go through it again. This map was literally the end of my DS2 career. Then again I was also playing with friends who stopped as well, so I had ample reason to quit.
    It's too bad. Really seems like they phoned it in with this specific area. Just snow, fog, few random buildings, annoying enemies, annoying boss, and no campfires. Fun.

  • @GlawiousAldredMarci
    @GlawiousAldredMarci 3 роки тому +7

    I remember when with my friend we walked in there and I was holding these "reindeers" up with a great shield while my friend and 2 NPC summons killed them... Good times... Good times...

  • @Glogomog
    @Glogomog 3 роки тому +24

    I love this level. Of all the hostile regions you travel through in the game, this is one of the bleakest, most ruthless places, and the blizzard totally fits that feel. I also like that you're racing against the clock as more enemies spawn, it adds to the feel of fighting against the elements, and it's not just some castle that you can clear out. I totally understand though why other people don't like it and I wish it had been tweaked and implemented a bit better. Maybe if it were a little less empty of terrain features...

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 2 роки тому +3

      that or a second bonfire?

    • @Glogomog
      @Glogomog 2 роки тому +2

      @@marhawkman303 yeah having one before the boss seems like an easy way to ease the frustration without making the environment less unforgiving.

  • @paradoxus6098
    @paradoxus6098 3 роки тому +9

    ZULLIE FACE OF THE DANCER OF THE BOREAL VALLEY WHEN??

    • @paradoxus6098
      @paradoxus6098 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheStraightestWhitest i really want to know because in battle, at least a few times, I SWEAR I have come close to her face for like half a second and there’s kind of a face under it, if only a little bit deformed, but that may just be my own imagination

  • @PowdergameFan18
    @PowdergameFan18 3 роки тому +8

    Pro Tip: use Chameleon or the consumable and then follow the far right wall until you reach the chasm. Takes 15-20 minutes but its 85% safe. Just dont fall into the chasm or get cornered by spawning enemies.

  • @saltyzumwalt7397
    @saltyzumwalt7397 2 роки тому +5

    the aesthetic and atmosphere of this area is really fantastic, and i like the idea of the snowstorm on paper. Shame you pretty much need a partner to make it enjoyable in the slightest

  • @pusia3725
    @pusia3725 3 роки тому +12

    Another gold form Zullie today

    • @milkmonstrosity
      @milkmonstrosity 3 роки тому +1

      Does Zullie also have a Bronze and Silver form?