Xbox Series X Thermals, Power, & Noise Testing: Tear-Down & Cooler Design

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  • Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
  • The Xbox Series X thermal testing looks at memory, SOC (CPU / GPU), and VRM temperatures. We're also benchmarking power and noise levels for the Xbox, including a partial tear-down.
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    Watch our Xbox & PlayStation Schlieren photography (airflow imaging) here: • PS5 vs. Xbox Series X ...
    Watch our PlayStation 5 thermal analysis here: • Weak Cooler Design: Pl...
    Console testing methods piece goes up separately - we decided to add some more detail to it, so it's referenced in this video as being live, but we're going to add a bit more and upload tomorrow or next day.
    This benchmark of the Xbox Series X includes a partial tear-down to help show the construction of the cooler. We also referenced a clip from TronicsFix (linked below) to talk about the vapor chamber design and how vapor chambers are constructed. The vapor chamber's pillars are obvious in the tear-down footage, so we show some factory floor footage to show how vapor chambers (like those found in the Xbox Series X) are made. We left our heatsink attached to the PCB, as we didn't want to disturb the thermal paste; however, since most of what we're measuring is flip-chip BGA packaging, the silicon is actually closer to the reverse side of the PCB than to the top of the case for MOSFET and memory modules. This is useful and convenient for measuring thermals with minimal disturbance to the cooler assembly. Disassembly is fairly easy and the Xbox mostly resembles a small form factor PC (e.g. mini-ITX / SFF box), except packed into an extremely dense, small assembly of parts. That makes for interesting thermal testing and analysis.
    TronicsFix video here: • Xbox Series X Teardown...
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 - Xbox Series X Thermal Testing
    01:23 - Testing Methodology Recap
    02:42 - Not 100% Comparable to PlayStation 5 Thermals
    07:04 - Xbox Series X SOC Thermal Benchmarks at Steady State
    09:24 - Memory Thermals
    10:32 - MOSFET (VRM) Thermals
    11:03 - Proving Our Work
    11:23 - Power vs. Thermal Measurements
    12:50 - Power Saving Recommendations
    13:21 - Looking Inside the Chassis (Partial Tear-Down)
    19:38 - Xbox Series X Power Consumption Benchmarks
    20:45 - Noise Testing of Xbox Series X
    22:05 - Conclusion of Xbox Series X Thermals
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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  3 роки тому +272

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    Console testing methods piece goes up separately - we decided to add some more detail to it, so it's referenced in this video as being live, but we're going to add a bit more and upload tomorrow or next day.
    Watch our Xbox & PlayStation Schlieren photography (airflow imaging) here: ua-cam.com/video/8FZ3cQFFZmQ/v-deo.html
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    • @teddyholiday8038
      @teddyholiday8038 3 роки тому +9

      Thanks for the great content, I threw up a thread for this on NeoGAF, we always enjoy your work

    • @Richie016
      @Richie016 3 роки тому +3

      testing devices and comparing benchmarks is fairly an interesting work.Thanks for coming with this remarkable content.

    • @jsteezus
      @jsteezus 3 роки тому +1

      @gamers nexus it would be cool if you designed some custom dust filter for the series x and then see how it performs. As with a dust filter if it holds good temps still this could last forever

    • @AnImperfectSoul
      @AnImperfectSoul 3 роки тому

      PS5 has dust collection trap built in... And gonna redo those Ram module temps anytime soon? Way too many other reviewers were sitting in the 70c range on theres, even the "hottest" one

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  3 роки тому +26

      @@AnImperfectSoul Citation needed. There's nothing to redo. The data is accurate to the device we bought. Ad others have shown, Sony didn't use the same fans or pads on all devices, nor even the same pad placement.

  • @davidfuller581
    @davidfuller581 3 роки тому +817

    "except, in our experience, this one doesn't catch on fire."
    Damn.

  • @J0cK3rFr3aK
    @J0cK3rFr3aK 3 роки тому +474

    That nzxt reference nearly burned as much as their PCIE risers

    • @FabiVoltair
      @FabiVoltair 3 роки тому +3

      Damn you added even more gasoline to that fire 🔥🚒

    • @AstralPhnx
      @AstralPhnx 3 роки тому +1

      Oh my GOD

  • @milkonbean
    @milkonbean 3 роки тому +531

    "Dont draw a direct comparison"
    Ahhhh shit, here we go again

    • @ST0RMER0N
      @ST0RMER0N 3 роки тому +66

      When he says that, you already know that XSX will have better thermal results than PS5 before watching the rest of the video lol 😆

    • @jamessnyder3807
      @jamessnyder3807 3 роки тому +6

      @@ST0RMER0N We’ll have to see how this all plays out over the next couple of years and if we see failures. While it’s possible Sony “forgot” about some GDDR6 modules and they’ll fail over time it seems like an odd oversight given the rest of the thermal design.

    • @ST0RMER0N
      @ST0RMER0N 3 роки тому +9

      @@jamessnyder3807 Yes I agree. Although it only takes one component to fail for the entire system to be bricked. Especially the memory. We will see over the next few years how effective both systems are.

    • @coopercoldwell
      @coopercoldwell 3 роки тому +4

      @Rinku Multani what made you come to that conclusion? The series x has a higher clock than the ps5

    • @ST0RMER0N
      @ST0RMER0N 3 роки тому +11

      @Rinku Multani What does GPU clock speed have anything to do with it. PS5 memory is reaching critical temps on a flat empty desk! Its not overheating because the clocks speeds of GPU are higher! Plus XSX has a higher CPU clock speed. Also, PS5 is missing some RDNA 2 features. So... its just an oversight from Sony which will hopefully be fixed in the pro version.

  • @davecolwell725
    @davecolwell725 3 роки тому +614

    Microsoft engineers did a really great job with this console I find the design practical and elegant at the same time. It’s really cool the way it all comes apart and goes together!

    • @adharshsenthil1363
      @adharshsenthil1363 3 роки тому +83

      The series s is also extremely well designed. It’s size makes it extremely portable for the power.

    • @liggerstuxin1
      @liggerstuxin1 3 роки тому +60

      They’ve come along way since the red ring of death

    • @Int3gr4t3
      @Int3gr4t3 3 роки тому +41

      Agreed, such an elegant solution to thermal distribution with a high quality in engineering detail with RDNA2/DRS/VA/ML features on a dual motherboard and vapour chamber design. Incredibly cheap for a device achieving this high level of standard.

    • @DanielElia2036
      @DanielElia2036 3 роки тому

      @@Int3gr4t3 ms and Sony both lying on theyr gpu architectures.. no infinity fabric=no full rdna2...

    • @gus8426
      @gus8426 3 роки тому +12

      Yeah both series s and x are really surprising for how much power its packed in that tiny box

  • @peppa1492
    @peppa1492 3 роки тому +148

    13:46 - When your Swiss army knife doesn't come with a screwdriver:

    • @liggerstuxin1
      @liggerstuxin1 3 роки тому +7

      That’s why you have to “hope it it has a screwdriver with it”. I think he had to hope a little harder? It’s one of the well-known steps for true techies.

    • @TheAracoin
      @TheAracoin 3 роки тому +1

      "We got that 30cm extension so we might just as well use it."

    • @thegirthquake8574
      @thegirthquake8574 3 роки тому

      Man, they're never living that one down. And I'm glad they're not.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 3 роки тому +1

      SCREW WITH CONFIDENCE!!!

    • @OdinAlgeron
      @OdinAlgeron 3 роки тому +3

      @@PSYCHOV3N0M dont forget the tweezers and allan wrench!
      XD

  • @MunchenerFrance
    @MunchenerFrance 3 роки тому +376

    Puts the rumors that the Xbox Series X overheats completely to rest, if it still needed to be done.

    • @jermainebynum5298
      @jermainebynum5298 3 роки тому +253

      @Bold Eagle 🤦‍♂️

    • @vollkerball1
      @vollkerball1 3 роки тому +31

      and you can even find videos of people disconnecting the fans (Xbox X and PS5) and the consoles would still run, so the overheating issues are a non issue.

    • @MrSoopSA
      @MrSoopSA 3 роки тому +160

      @Bold Eagle You sound like a child, my guy. Chill and just enjoy whichever system you like more.

    • @kju520
      @kju520 3 роки тому +28

      @Bold Eagle imagine releasing a console that already is having issues running some games at the marketed resolutions, ps5 is sad I don't even play consoles I have a pc.
      I heard rumors the new resident evil on ps5 is having trouble keeping up with the xbox with similar graphic settings 👀

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  3 роки тому +119

      @@vollkerball1 lol, if people are doing that, it just means the console is down clocking. It is an issue. It's just worsening performance a lot to cope.

  • @thomasb1521
    @thomasb1521 3 роки тому +155

    You can tell he loves accuracy. Most people would say that they will never get this stuff but Steve is like "we don't have one ... Yet"

    • @BenState
      @BenState 3 роки тому +1

      yes, that, and the difference between accuracy and precision. This was probably not a conflation by PC Jesus.

  • @sommamedia1403
    @sommamedia1403 3 роки тому +312

    I honestly love this channel and everything you guys do.
    The amount of effort put into these videos is honsetly astonishing.
    Keep up the great work guys!

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  3 роки тому +71

      Thanks!

    • @sommamedia1403
      @sommamedia1403 3 роки тому +42

      @@GamersNexus you're welcome, I honestly just wanted to spread some positivity to people who deserve it, since I'm having a bad day.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  3 роки тому +58

      @@sommamedia1403 Sorry to hear about that. Hopefully you can find something to reset a little bit and it gets better.

    • @sommamedia1403
      @sommamedia1403 3 роки тому +37

      @@GamersNexus yeah, your conent honestly helps me a lot. Even when I feel down, your videos can make me smile or even laugh. I'm sure other people feel the same way, so thanks.

    • @Ikxi
      @Ikxi 3 роки тому +13

      ​@@sommamedia1403 Yea, it's really interesting how GN's videos can be nice to watch.
      At first, it was actually like that one joke in the "Roast of Linus Sebastian" where someone said that these videos make them fall asleep.
      For me that was literal.
      But now, great content that I enjoy a lot!

  • @latioseon7794
    @latioseon7794 3 роки тому +142

    putting the "box" back in xbox

    • @NoName-hj5hg
      @NoName-hj5hg 3 роки тому +9

      I love its design. I hope the next Xbox is a straight up cube

    • @marv1nperator
      @marv1nperator 3 роки тому +5

      @@NoName-hj5hg And hopefully they slim down the name to something more catchy, like xcube or cubebox or simply gamecube. ;)

    • @jrsomethingnumbers9704
      @jrsomethingnumbers9704 3 роки тому +5

      @@marv1nperator or go full meme and make a straight up Game Sphere lol

  • @jazaniaavadra724
    @jazaniaavadra724 3 роки тому +103

    SX is a very well engineered console.
    Good job

    • @reav3rtm
      @reav3rtm 3 роки тому +1

      Also looks great. Too bad it's not possible to install normal operating system on it.

    • @JP-fr6by
      @JP-fr6by 3 роки тому +1

      @@reav3rtm It is its just not practical at all

    • @whothou
      @whothou 3 роки тому +1

      @@reav3rtm well key word "console" not a pc it's not supposed to be easy to run an OS on it..
      Plus 20 bucks can let you run unsigned code on it..

    • @reav3rtm
      @reav3rtm 3 роки тому +2

      @@whothou Nothing else but Microsoft is artificially restricting running normal OS (in ex Linux) on it by locking bootloader. No technical obstacles. It's AMD Navi and x86-64 tech underneath.

  • @TheBlackstarrt
    @TheBlackstarrt 3 роки тому +87

    The Xbox design is fantastic.

  • @Real28
    @Real28 3 роки тому +58

    I love the attempt to mitigate the Xbox vs Sony fanboyism. Respectable attempt. But history has shown, these two cannot be kept from fighting 🤣

    • @killertruth186
      @killertruth186 3 роки тому +1

      True.

    • @evilformerlys4704
      @evilformerlys4704 3 роки тому

      There is no fight, people go where they think it's best for them to play the story end of.

    • @TheArsenalgunner28
      @TheArsenalgunner28 3 роки тому +6

      Tbf, as a PlayStation fan I think Xbox wins this time. For thermals at least. I’m currently building my first pc (for video editing/gaming) I’m picking the parts I need for airflow and cooling and I’m a bit a annoyed Sony designed the PS5 the way they have.
      Seeing its memory shoot up 90c was shocking and concerning

    • @KINGPHANTOMw85
      @KINGPHANTOMw85 3 роки тому +5

      It's mainly sony fanboys though

    • @Zoradeity
      @Zoradeity 3 роки тому +6

      @@KINGPHANTOMw85 rabid fanboys in every camp. All equally stupid.

  • @RedHaloManiac95
    @RedHaloManiac95 3 роки тому +63

    Hey so part of the Xbox intake vents are possibly obstructed for a purpose. When you design a machine, in some cases the chassis comes first and you can see how everything fits after. The designer will put holes in case they need them, and they will get blocked if not needed. What is most likely going on here is that they want a small amount of restriction Vs the exhaust to force the fan to suck air through the heatsink chassis. If the air was free flowing, it would all flow through the heatsink and around the chassis in the center. By being restricted, it forces the fan to *suck* air through the chassis actually improving the thermals. This is just my take being an electrical engineer and working with some mechanical engineers on a product that must fit in the same footprint as the product we are replacing.

    • @indo3052
      @indo3052 Рік тому

      Yeah. In an more opened area for flow may help the amount of airflow coming from fan, but doesn’t allow you to bring in the air specifically where u want it coming in at

  • @S8ER
    @S8ER 3 роки тому +1

    Legit been waiting for months on this. Thank you!!! Well worth the wait.

  • @mitchmcdonald3168
    @mitchmcdonald3168 3 роки тому +6

    29 minutes of my life well spent. This was an amazing break down of Xbox Series X thermals. It really helps me appreciate the amount of engineering that went in to making Xboxes but also other consoles as well. And for that thank you.

  • @Surasia
    @Surasia 3 роки тому +163

    Why is the master chief pointing an AR at steve

    • @kumisz2
      @kumisz2 3 роки тому +21

      If he can't be bribed he will be held at gunpoint

    • @systim30
      @systim30 3 роки тому +2

      Cause MC can not go spec for spec w Steve... duh

    • @toaster_bloke9999
      @toaster_bloke9999 3 роки тому +5

      "Thermals are our concern now, sir"

    • @rometherevenant8749
      @rometherevenant8749 3 роки тому +3

      @Ziv Zulander i laughed at this more then i shouldve.

    • @albertwesker4266
      @albertwesker4266 3 роки тому

      Where do you see master chief ??? Dont tell me that thing with wings on the left xDDDDD

  • @AstralPhnx
    @AstralPhnx 3 роки тому +215

    Huh, well done Microsoft for engineering this system extremely well thermally

  • @user-ru8dz8rq3y
    @user-ru8dz8rq3y 3 роки тому +7

    Yeah, I've been waiting for this!🎉

  • @Demertech
    @Demertech 3 роки тому +3

    I really love your content it has really taught me alot. Your testing is very thorough and very well executed. Thank you for being the one person who is always there for the tech community, we really appreciate it.

  • @Qkriek
    @Qkriek 3 роки тому +3

    Just saw the video, and was like "YEEEESSSS!" Not even watched it, but looked forward to this a lot!

  • @nerowalker7530
    @nerowalker7530 3 роки тому +3

    finally!! been waiting for this.

  • @DestDroid
    @DestDroid 3 роки тому +1

    Glad to see GN finally showing us some in the box thermals!

  • @BigMizzzy
    @BigMizzzy 3 роки тому +1

    Doing a shot for everytime I hear schlieren. Love the work guys keep it up.

  • @Zosu22
    @Zosu22 3 роки тому +266

    Any plans on taking a peek at the Series S?

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  3 роки тому +202

      Maybe if there's enough interest!

    • @SrApathy33
      @SrApathy33 3 роки тому +54

      @@GamersNexus I'm interested!

    • @kr0mka
      @kr0mka 3 роки тому +39

      @@GamersNexus I'm interested as well!

    • @MiGujack3
      @MiGujack3 3 роки тому +34

      @@SrApathy33 *WE* are interested, comrade.

    • @Napster60
      @Napster60 3 роки тому +17

      @@GamersNexus Would be cool.. Or will it? :p Sorry.

  • @marioawe9990
    @marioawe9990 3 роки тому +10

    Such an elegant, effective and smart design!

  • @branigankerls
    @branigankerls 3 роки тому

    Finally! I was so hoping for this video

  • @stephenblanck6986
    @stephenblanck6986 3 роки тому

    Nice video Steve. Thanks for giving the console gamers love.

  • @giorx5
    @giorx5 3 роки тому +30

    The SOCs efficiency is over the roof! Such performance and consumes so low power. Well made in all aspects with those thermals. Great review!

    • @imo098765
      @imo098765 3 роки тому +16

      thats probably AMD's best non-server grade silicon right there

    • @RandyAugustus
      @RandyAugustus 3 роки тому +2

      @@imo098765 would explain why it’s taking so long to get more consoles out.

  • @pikerosik
    @pikerosik 3 роки тому +7

    Great material guys! But one thing I'm curious about, would drilling those obstructed holes benefit in even better thermals? Maybe idea for follow up

  • @MADBADBRAD
    @MADBADBRAD 3 роки тому

    Oh yes. Been waiting on this!

  • @tylernewton1620
    @tylernewton1620 3 роки тому

    I waited months for this vid and it was def worth it :)

  • @dreamlesskai8954
    @dreamlesskai8954 3 роки тому +4

    the thumbnail is straight *fire*

  • @ryebomb4651
    @ryebomb4651 3 роки тому +20

    Having just switched to the Series X from the 1X, the power saving mode is so fast on the Series X, that it boosts as fast as the 1X in instant on mode. Hope that makes sense. Basically, if you're concerned about saving power and internet data, use power saving mode on Series X

    • @XgamerdaveX
      @XgamerdaveX 2 роки тому +1

      I use power saving mode and was surprised at how fast it boots up still.

  • @lorankatoran8856
    @lorankatoran8856 3 роки тому +1

    Really excellent work! It’d be really interesting to see these analyses with the Series S as well since it has such a small body

  • @jawadlodhi3593
    @jawadlodhi3593 3 роки тому

    Finally. Ty for your hardwork.

  • @wertywerrtyson5529
    @wertywerrtyson5529 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you. I'd would be interesting to see a similar video for the Series S to see how it compares. Less power so less heat but also smaller cooling solution.

  • @valiantsloth
    @valiantsloth 3 роки тому +40

    Yeah, I've yet to ever hear my Series X running. I've muted everything a few times just to see if it really is that quiet.

    • @Delphiki78
      @Delphiki78 3 роки тому +13

      Its so much better than my ps5. I might have one of the noisier fan types in the ps5 but there’s no comparing them, the ps5 is way way louder

    • @toaster_bloke9999
      @toaster_bloke9999 3 роки тому +8

      @@Delphiki78 Not too different from the Xbox One S vs PS4 then...
      Not that the PS4 was loud or anything, but it definitely wasn't near silent like the One S was.
      And that's after replacing the awful stock/dried thermal paste on the PS4, whereas the One S ran quiet without having to disassemble it. Before changing the paste on the PS4 I genuinely had to speak up a bit if it was playing a game because of the sheer noise. They did learn their lesson on that and massively overcompensated by using liquid metal on the PS5.

    • @malazan6004
      @malazan6004 3 роки тому +1

      Do you actually have games to play on it to hear it running? I'm joking lol but seriously it is quiet my friend has one

    • @jasondicioccio880
      @jasondicioccio880 3 роки тому

      They're both really quiet for me. Certainly not noticeable when I'm playing a game or something. I love the simplicity of the Series X design, though. Other than potential dust issues, it seems very elegant and very effective.

    • @hilde198881
      @hilde198881 3 роки тому

      @@Delphiki78 yeah my series x is silent while I can hear my ps5.

  • @brana1646
    @brana1646 3 роки тому +1

    Damn your videos r awesome I don't watch all of them cuz I don't have time nor the attention capacity lol but I just "like" it.
    Thanks guys

  • @Lambsharkxo
    @Lambsharkxo 3 роки тому +1

    god DAMMIT i love this channel

  • @thespicyswede9302
    @thespicyswede9302 3 роки тому +13

    Definitely do the Series S! I’d be interested in that

  • @nukeskywalker9969
    @nukeskywalker9969 3 роки тому +68

    So to sum up : Good design, could be better on the intake,
    VS PS5: generally speaking better design than PS5, less noisy, and more compact, no ram overheating.

    • @AnImperfectSoul
      @AnImperfectSoul 3 роки тому +9

      Ram isnt overheating on PS5. Steves test pulled abnormally high numbers vs other reviewers sitting in the 70c range. Lol unreal how this is still being thrown about. Last i checked the PS5 has dust collection filters. Imagine that

    • @broklond
      @broklond 3 роки тому +21

      @@AnImperfectSoul where?

    • @Knutschel
      @Knutschel 3 роки тому +3

      @@AnImperfectSoul its not the hole RAM, only 2 Modules.

    • @ALifeOfWine
      @ALifeOfWine 3 роки тому +32

      @@AnImperfectSoul Found the fanboy.

    • @scottyhaines4226
      @scottyhaines4226 3 роки тому +28

      @@AnImperfectSoul it was only the last 2 chips that weren't covered by the heat sink. The rest of them were fine. Those last 2 chips however could make the system inoperable. Thats the issue. He never said all the RAM was overheating

  • @mgratk
    @mgratk 2 роки тому

    EXCELLENT video. Thanks so much.

  • @giodrelis
    @giodrelis 2 роки тому

    Excelente video, muy bien deserrollado y explicado. Gracias por el trobajo realizado.

  • @FuncleChuck
    @FuncleChuck 3 роки тому +9

    I love my Microsoft Xbox Series X. And my AMD Ryzen 5600X. And my EVGA Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti. They all serve their purpose. Modern Gaming Tech is AWESOME.

    • @santhoshsridhar5887
      @santhoshsridhar5887 3 роки тому +1

      Kind of pointless you'd own a pc AND an xbox, especially considering the fact that both perform nearly the same.

    • @gustavobrunelli7162
      @gustavobrunelli7162 3 роки тому +1

      @@santhoshsridhar5887 even more true considering that the 3060 ti has basically the same horse power as the series x

    • @santhoshsridhar5887
      @santhoshsridhar5887 3 роки тому

      @@gustavobrunelli7162 In rasterization, nearly the same but not in raytracing tho. But still, there is no point owning both of them. PC/PS5 has always been the best combo with PS5/series S coming second if you want to dip your feet into gamepass but want to spend less money and PS5/XSX coming third as both perform nearly the same and there is little reason to buy both unless you want the best experience for both console's exclusives.

    • @gustavobrunelli7162
      @gustavobrunelli7162 3 роки тому

      @@santhoshsridhar5887 In the current situation, o would say that PS5 + Series X is the best combo, I would not mind not having a gaming PC, It's just too expansive for what it offers in terms of gaming, and with the new Apple M1 chip, you really need to have a good reason to buy a windows machine for normal or professional use.
      Just my personal opinion.

    • @santhoshsridhar5887
      @santhoshsridhar5887 3 роки тому

      @@gustavobrunelli7162 Apple M1 chip's gpu at its best is as good as a 1650, which was already a budget GPU relased 2 years ago. It's impressive for an integrated gpu, but it is not good for gaming also because of the api it uses as apple does not allow vulkan or open gl. Even for professional use, it's good if you only want the apple suite of apps and don't use bootcamp(which many mac users do use).
      2) You don't necessarily need to make a pc matching the series X just to get a good experience. Even a 1660ti or a 2060 is good enough. And tbh, if you can find pc components at their normal prices rn(which is extremely hard but not impossible), you can get a pc better than the series X without breaking the bank. For example
      Rtx 3060: Nearly identical to the XSX. 320$
      Ryzen 5 3600: also as good as the xsx's cpu, just has 2 lesser cores, 200$
      1TB SSD: 100$
      16gb ram stick: 80$
      650W psu: 60$
      Pc case: 50$
      Total: 810$.
      Now, I could have skimped on a lot of things to make this cheaper. The case could've been cheaper. I could definitely have bought a normal hdd instead of an SSD. And let's be honest, a 3060 can easily kill these new consoles if we're talking about raytracing(see any digital foundry video released rn) and 120hz gaming and eSports games(look at GN's ps5 video for 120hz gaming where the ps5 barely is comparable to a 1080 in most games). And we did not even factor in dlss which completely obliterates the new consoles(unless MS brings out something like direct ML). And yes, you can do a lot more on a PC than a console. Yes, xbox can run retroarch, which is a welcome surprise but it is still a far cry from the amount of stuff a pc can emulate, be it switch or Wii u games, to the PS3. And unlike xbox's homebrew scene, pc emulators will always receive way more support.
      Also, you can't code, or make games or edit on an xbox or a ps5.

  • @wleegarza337
    @wleegarza337 3 роки тому +30

    Most common cause of damage over time for consoles is Mt. Dew.

    • @gingataisen
      @gingataisen 3 роки тому +3

      Cheetos dust.

    • @santhoshsridhar5887
      @santhoshsridhar5887 3 роки тому +1

      @@gingataisen Cheeto and dorito dust is a cause of damage for the controllers.

  • @cocacola3269
    @cocacola3269 3 роки тому

    Awesome vid!

  • @gnovincejr2
    @gnovincejr2 3 роки тому

    I would have loved to see some tests in a cabinet, whether its an open cabinet or one with glass doors. Great video as always!

  • @AstralPhnx
    @AstralPhnx 3 роки тому +3

    Oh here we damn go

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 3 роки тому +46

    It's nice to see that Microsoft seems to have designed a relativelty quiet and cool running console here. I know that people who care about exclusives will be more excited by the PS5 but for me this seems like a much better deal when you factor in that it is able to emulate previous consoles where the PS5 is not. For me, exclusives are rare enough that it doesn't really matter too much and I am willing to wait for those games either to be ported over or to be able to emulate them.

    • @AnImperfectSoul
      @AnImperfectSoul 3 роки тому +8

      You buy next gen to play next gen. BC is still by and large, a non issue with 360/ps3 and prior gens.

    • @1meen1
      @1meen1 3 роки тому +1

      @@AnImperfectSoul Will matter to the stream crowd and those who haven't been keeping up with he generations, but you are right. Nostalgia may kick in every now and again, but a non issue

    • @gustavobrunelli7162
      @gustavobrunelli7162 3 роки тому +1

      @@River_Miles I think the cooler is the one who's gonna be able to play elder scrolls 6. Hope it will be launched on both, but if it doesn't, it's a huge hit for the one who's not having it

    • @evilformerlys4704
      @evilformerlys4704 3 роки тому +4

      @@gustavobrunelli7162 Yeah, Almost no big game out of Bethesda will not be exclusive to the console that doesn't actually have exclusives to itself. The cost of Zenimax purchase includes PlayStation expected sales of titles. Anyone thinking differently is out of their minds. Also Bethesda hasn't released a fully completed title in years, unless you want to claim Skyrim is peak output because Fallout went a bit crazy but all launched buggy. 🤔

    • @dadycommunity2784
      @dadycommunity2784 3 роки тому +1

      @@evilformerlys4704 They will be exclusive

  • @artiem5262
    @artiem5262 3 роки тому

    great work!

  • @1234Jaytay
    @1234Jaytay 3 роки тому

    Great work. Thank you.

  • @MetalZoned
    @MetalZoned 3 роки тому +4

    I really like the efficiency of this design.

  • @bluephreakr
    @bluephreakr 3 роки тому +9

    Hey Steve, considered buying a dev mode license and running specialized software on the console via a custom WUP application for measuring temperatures and running tests? At the very least it could lead to more direct numbers if done correctly.

  • @shpingalet7895
    @shpingalet7895 3 роки тому +2

    Great job

  • @ApexLodestar
    @ApexLodestar 3 роки тому +1

    Sick BURN, Steve! 🔥😂🔥

  • @ZackCase
    @ZackCase 3 роки тому +38

    I feel more comfortable getting the XSX AFTER watching Steve! Kudos!

  • @commandervimes4854
    @commandervimes4854 3 роки тому +3

    Have been waiting for this video for what feels like ages. Great video. , It's making me seriously consider buying an Xbox Series X even though I hate console controllers. Microsoft did really well on the design.

    • @gingataisen
      @gingataisen 3 роки тому +2

      As opposed to PC controllers? 😂

  • @darthtleilaxu4021
    @darthtleilaxu4021 3 роки тому

    Vidéo très instructive comme souvent ! 👌

  • @robertsobek6177
    @robertsobek6177 6 місяців тому

    thankyou for the vid!

  • @John__K
    @John__K 3 роки тому +58

    Really? no one? Ok, here i go,
    **clears throat**
    OUT OF THE XBOX THERMALS

  • @llJeezusll
    @llJeezusll 3 роки тому +2

    The Xbox in the thumbnail looks like a pretty sick design ngl

  • @SanderSander88
    @SanderSander88 3 роки тому +2

    Watching this on my series X, love it how easy it is to open, so I can clean it ones in a while haha.

  • @lBonaCl
    @lBonaCl 3 роки тому +1

    I was honestly impressed when Steve just pulled out the hardware from the case. That's so neat and tidy, that's going to be a breeze to clean the dust out of the heatsink when that time comes.

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  • @ALifeOfWine
    @ALifeOfWine 3 роки тому +57

    I wonder if they clogged up those holes because the air was getting pulled in from too high up the tower and not cooling some parts properly.
    If anyone has any other ideas I'd love to hear them. It seems like a very deliberate design choice with no obvious explanation.

    • @legros731
      @legros731 3 роки тому +28

      Xbox use negative air pressure you need less intake and more exhaust to make it work properly
      Thr fan create a low pressure zone and air will enter the console because the exterior pressure is more than the inside of the console

    • @ALifeOfWine
      @ALifeOfWine 3 роки тому +11

      @@legros731 I mean you're technically not wrong, but this still doesn't give any indication as to why they would block the holes on the side.
      They could put holes all over the case and it would still be a negative pressure system as the only fan is set to exhaust.

    • @legros731
      @legros731 3 роки тому +9

      @@ALifeOfWine it to help guide the aur where its needed if you make hole on top you will get no cooling for components under the hole
      And air is last like water it will take the path off less resistance
      A can assure you these hole are not random and there are not totally blocked some air flow will still go through these hole

    • @ALifeOfWine
      @ALifeOfWine 3 роки тому +6

      @@legros731 Yeah that was my original thought from my first comment. Would be interesting to know the flow path with and without them blocked to see what components benefit from the final decision.
      And they definitely are blocked off btw. You can see the reverse of the back plate at 15:38 where the top 3rd of the holes have been sealed.

    • @legros731
      @legros731 3 роки тому

      @@ALifeOfWine possible dont have one on hand but there no seal it's just plastic on plastic it still got a miniscule gap even if uou can't see it

  • @Wickedroonz
    @Wickedroonz 3 роки тому +3

    The image in the thumbnail would be a pretty sweet custom XSX

  • @Tobez
    @Tobez 3 місяці тому

    Reminds me of the good ol days back in the 2000s when I first disassembled my original Xbox. Replaced the IDE cables with higher quality cables. Besides that I wasn't sure what to do to mod it or upgrade it because I was a kid. That was also around the time I learned about ESD when my friend decided to poke his finger into the xbox while it was running with the top off and it instantly died. When I got my first job at a local LAN center I got them to agree to open up all the original Xboxs and swap out the IDE cable for a higher quality one. Did it do anything? Who knows but it was fun taking them apart and trying to figure out how to make it better.
    Fast forward 20 years and it's awesome to see a video like this with real professionals tearing it down and testing. Love it

  • @drewedgeley2845
    @drewedgeley2845 3 роки тому

    Nice vid Steve 👍🙂

  • @Dibromatic
    @Dibromatic 3 роки тому +6

    When's the GN packing material shelf going on the GN Store?

  • @MrAdam802
    @MrAdam802 3 роки тому +8

    Awesome! Hope to see more Series X content.
    Was also thinking the base might block air by design to 'shape' the air coming in, as opposed to a more turbulent blob of air. But im just guessing.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  3 роки тому +1

      It's nothing fancy. Definitely just a stand.

  • @cybershot762.
    @cybershot762. 2 роки тому +2

    As others have stated, I would love to see the same tests with the dust filter kits installed. That would be great to see if airflow is impeded causing Temps to rise. Thanks for all the great content

    • @MrDanielmarlowe
      @MrDanielmarlowe 4 місяці тому

      I put a dust filter on mine and an extra fan on top to hopefully mitigate the filter. So far 111f is the average operating temp at the exhaust.

  • @Symphony_
    @Symphony_ 3 роки тому

    Such a detailed video

  • @jumpyg1258
    @jumpyg1258 3 роки тому +7

    Will you guys be covering the Series S console as well?

  • @theflemsterbflemming4088
    @theflemsterbflemming4088 3 роки тому +34

    SCHALERIAN PHOTOGRAPHY BROUGHT TO YOU BY NZXT CHASSIS FIRE

    • @z33r0now3
      @z33r0now3 3 роки тому +1

      schalalala schlalalalalalalalaaaaa

  • @aliensaxophone
    @aliensaxophone 3 роки тому

    I love the crackled lava floor look of the render!! That is stunningly beautifull. It should be a custom plating or casemod somewhere!

  • @Zerioku
    @Zerioku 3 роки тому

    This was long overdue!

  • @MightyPoo64
    @MightyPoo64 3 роки тому +11

    Noise normalised performance vs. a custom built PC would be cool.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  3 роки тому +51

      Something tells me that the NZXT H1, the closest comparable case, might run quite hot for other reasons...

    • @Error-jt7lx
      @Error-jt7lx 3 роки тому +6

      @@GamersNexus lmao

    • @Ikxi
      @Ikxi 3 роки тому +2

      @@GamersNexus ROASTED
      .....
      yep

    • @HalfUnder
      @HalfUnder 3 роки тому +1

      @@GamersNexus Big oof NZXT

  • @lukaslauermann1984
    @lukaslauermann1984 3 роки тому +6

    thank you so much for the high quality content!
    question: is there any chance you're gonna review the Seasonic Syncro q704 case?
    stay safe, keep up the amazing work

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  3 роки тому +14

      Not sure. We've gotten a few requests for it, but we're completely slammed right now. I think we're backed-up about a month or two on content.

  • @remotecontrolaxe
    @remotecontrolaxe 3 роки тому

    Great stuff, thanks for the video! Only thing I'd ask is if you could also do thermal tests in a couple common media cabinet configurations to see how much clearance you'd need all around it and such to not have it point straight out of the cabinet. Because occasionally using discs in the console (especially by other family members) means that isn't really an option in my case.
    I may see how I feel about putting it vertically on top of my PC tower case (Fractal R4)... Just would super paranoid about it tipping over.

  • @mariusgmail670
    @mariusgmail670 3 роки тому

    I hope this channel gets 20M subs in the future so when they talk to manufacturers they listen to every tip, maybe even pays for it👂Best deepdive channel on info and trustable channel around on UA-cam

  • @Steamrick
    @Steamrick 3 роки тому +11

    I really, *really* like the Xbox Series X's thermal design. That huge low fin density heat sink is great.

  • @georgesix5889
    @georgesix5889 3 роки тому +4

    The heatsink looks like a cpu cooler out of a server, it makes sense tho since both servers and the xbox work like wind tunnels on the inside.

  • @ezel5705
    @ezel5705 3 роки тому

    I really like how you placed a disclaimer about not comparing the 2 consoles. Tech jesus being the good guy who stops fanboys from fighting each other.

  • @uss_liberty_incident
    @uss_liberty_incident 3 роки тому +1

    I'm not even into consoles these day but this is very cool testing to see.

  • @steel5897
    @steel5897 3 роки тому +6

    It's so satisfying to look at the internals. My pipe dream is to have a gaming PC engineered that well.
    ...wait, that's the Series X. Shame about the closed OS though.

    • @thepizzaelf
      @thepizzaelf 3 роки тому +1

      Imagine if this console had proper kbm support, it would be almost perfect

    • @whothou
      @whothou 3 роки тому

      @@thepizzaelf nah keep kbm off console...
      That would kill competitive gaming on consoles.

    • @crazysanta6641
      @crazysanta6641 3 роки тому

      @@whothou but every one would have it

  • @RussellThomason
    @RussellThomason 3 роки тому +3

    You could drill some equivalent holes and test if it even makes a difference.

  • @TomAtkinson
    @TomAtkinson 2 роки тому

    When you said about the ice bath or whatever I was like...... "oh wow thanks you shouldn't have how nice!" That is ridiculous. Actually was interesting to see your steady states also.
    Cool!

  • @georgeivanov844
    @georgeivanov844 3 роки тому +2

    Simple and competent design.

  • @g3neralcross911
    @g3neralcross911 3 роки тому +10

    Ok so the negatives are just that it has negative air pressure and no dust filters. That’s pretty good. Runs quieter than the ps5. Which was a given as bigger fans make less noise. Wonder tho how loud the disc drives are compared with each other.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  3 роки тому +16

      You cannot linearly compare the temperature between these two pieces as the components are different and the measurement locations are, by nature of the PCB being a different layout, also different. I thought we made that clear in the 5 minutes we spent on it. It is quieter, though. That can be compared.

    • @g3neralcross911
      @g3neralcross911 3 роки тому +2

      @@GamersNexus Tbf I’m more worried about the power supplies in the Xbox. Seems to me that it’s life expectancy seems low.

    • @Napster60
      @Napster60 3 роки тому +6

      @@g3neralcross911 Why?

    • @killertruth186
      @killertruth186 3 роки тому +1

      @@Napster60 He must've seen a video from Tronics Fix. Tronics is a good UA-camr.

    • @Napster60
      @Napster60 3 роки тому +7

      @@killertruth186 I saw the same vid.. Tronics fix is a good channel but not a reason to say there is a wide spread issue..

  • @NekoSnowy
    @NekoSnowy 3 роки тому +20

    It's nice to see Microsoft focusing more on function over form, now if only they could take their experience with basically making a mini-itx PC and start making actual mini-itx PCs that don't go super nova~

    • @Rapunzel879
      @Rapunzel879 3 роки тому +3

      But the form is really appealing... It's quite sexy.

    • @kotekzot
      @kotekzot 3 роки тому

      Without the Microsoft malware (or whatever they call the software that prevents it from running code they don't want it to run), the SX would be a PC.

    • @malazan6004
      @malazan6004 3 роки тому

      Bro they have needed to function on games since 2013 they have let me down. The 360 was such a killer console loved it

  • @draineddd
    @draineddd 3 роки тому

    Great video, you should do one of these on the Xbox Series S thermals too

  • @yomerosoy5852
    @yomerosoy5852 3 роки тому +1

    nice, waiting for the series s video

  • @Hazard2005
    @Hazard2005 3 роки тому +15

    I like the Xbox Series X general simple design and it could easily be modded by someone who knows what they are doing to improve the air flow and add some magnetic dust filters, if you would like, it's obviously not necessary.

    • @carbon1255
      @carbon1255 3 роки тому

      You need to increase the surface area of intake to add filters so that the air is not too restricted. Just slapping on filters will cause the device to run hot.

  • @ankitn3569
    @ankitn3569 3 роки тому +34

    "we're not gonna go over every single detail again today just to sort of save some time" GN...video proceeds to be 29mins long lol

  • @nathanderulo
    @nathanderulo 3 роки тому +1

    I see gamer nexus uploads. I click!

  • @Capatron1
    @Capatron1 3 роки тому +1

    wow, great design overall imo, simple, powerful and cool. Thanks for all the hard work this video took, I admire how thorough GN is with their tests!

  • @proCaylak
    @proCaylak 3 роки тому +13

    A SUGGESTION FOR APRIL FOOLS:
    Perform some thermal testing for a very old computer(preferably 80s microcomputer or even an IBM PC compatible) with one twist: pretend that they are some new stuff.

    • @DrakkarCalethiel
      @DrakkarCalethiel 3 роки тому +2

      That would be funny. Maybe 486 or P3 Slot 1. Brings up old memories!

    • @santhoshsridhar5887
      @santhoshsridhar5887 3 роки тому +1

      Damn this is actually a pretty good idea. A numbskull like me would probably just think that it is new if I didn't pay much attention.

  • @dankone3
    @dankone3 3 роки тому +3

    It was always clear to me that the xboxs design was way more practical looking compared to the ps5s tryhard looking design, and although I've always been a PS fanboy and Xbox hater this test has convinced me to grab an Xbox (whenever I can find one).
    My PC is down and considering the current market it doesn't make sense to rebuild at this time especially when compared to the console prices and how powerful they are.

  • @xos
    @xos 3 роки тому

    I had mine vertically oriented on a shelf originally, and the PS5 thermals video scared me into moving it to my desk back in November (obviously different consoles, but served as a good reminder). I had Microsoft's minimum recommended vertical clearance, but knowing that there's only one exhausting fan at the top, it seemed like good peace-of-mind to move it to an open air area. Glad to see the overall thermal performance for it is fine, but in agreeance with the findings, more openings and some filters would be great.

  • @findantu
    @findantu Рік тому

    I'm really glad you me tioned how there's irregularities in the backplate edge and the Casewall I have a very slight one not really noticible unless your looking dead on at the back but shining a light and you see there's a big enough gap for air I was worried but I guess that's sop.
    I guess if I skin it I'll have to use some kinda sealer.
    I was thinking bout using just a tiny bit of rubber cement.