Rocking a 2015 MacBook Air with 8GB of RAM and a 120 GB SSD. It’s still going strong and a pleasure to use, even if it’s running an older version of macos - Mojave
OCLP is a game changer for older Macbooks. They run many versions of Linux very well and Windows via Bootcamp is fantastic. That said, I don't like the new M series don't have easily replaceable storage and ram.
Reformat it and do a clean install. I'm typing this on a 2010 Mac Pro 5,1 running macOS Sequoia Developer Beta from a NVME drive and it's lightning fast. If you want to get into "benchmarks", sure, my 9 month old MacBook Pro is "faster" on Cinebench and Blackmagic RAW Speed Test, but it's not noticeable in ANY daily user experience other than video transcoding where you can actually see a progress bar and time to complete for the same video across both devices. This beast has 128GB of DDR3 RAM in it and chews through everything instantly (video transcoding obviously takes time regardless of machine and MKBHD demonstrated that with a brand new $40k+ Mac Pro...which still took time to transcode video. Anson's original tutorial video on OpenCore Legacy Patcher from a few years ago has saved me untold amounts of money upgrading to new machines when it simply wasn't necessary. My 2011 Mac Mini & iMac, 2013 iMacs, 2016 Macbook are all running Sequoia just fine.
@@sergioyichiong7269 yep I still have my late 2013 macbook pro. It works ok, but for large coding projects sucks. About hardware it is in pristine condition. I always take care of my electronic devices!! :)
For MacOS it depends, but for iOS on iPhones, each update definitely slows performance and hurts battery life thanks to all of the fancy new features that old phones sometimes can't even use at all.
Also have a 2006 iMac upgraded to 4GB RAM, otherwise, original hardware - including the ancient 160GB HDD. It’s running a Linux distro and is still used on a regular basis for streaming news video websites on UA-cam in the background while I’m working on my main computer in my home office. I got it for free in 2012 when it was about to be thrown out in the garbage. In 2026 that machine will be 20 years old…!!! Simply astonishing.
I have a 2012 15“ MacBook Pro with the matte screen. Upgraded to 16 GB of RAM. One terabyte SSD and a OWC data doubler for another SSD. I took out the optical drive. I have it running Sonoma and Boot Camp with Windows 10. It’s still going strong for me, but I decided to finally upgrade two weeks ago to a used 2021 MacBook Pro M1 max with 64 GB RAM and 1TB storage. The Apple Silicon Mac is incredible and it was a welcome upgrade for me.
I was an IT Technician for years. In the IT team we all used MacBook Pro's even though the company ran Windows on everything, including Server. We had endless issues with Surface laptops, HP high end laptops, Dell XPS BSOD issues etc. But our Mac's never skipped a beat. They let me keep mine when I left and I'm still using it to this day. I might upgrade it to Sequoia using open core because why not? We could easily remote into the servers using RDP and TeamViewer for users PCs to troubleshoot while still doing everything else on OS X. 3 finger swiping between full screen apps was super smooth and fast so multitasking was easy. These are great machines and they are very popular with IT Teams
Every cheap PC (desktop) I've ever owned lasted easily ten years, maybe with one repair such as a power supply. Cheap laptops can also survive a long time if looked after well, in my experience particularly from good brands such as Lenovo, ASUS or HP.
it was all ok until you said hp, it cannot be true, hp is even more anti consumer than modern apple, the internals are weird, with poor built housings and modified internal ports to avoid updates. this was before apple stopped making macs reparable.
@@Lucas-yp6bm Maybe HP isn't so repairable, I'm not going to argue that, but mine has been okay. 6 years now of moderate use (maybe on borrowed time?). Everything is soldered in except the SSD, which I upgraded myself from 300GB to 1TB.
Yep I have a 2011 pavilion g7 that I upgraded to an i7-2600qm (from i3), put 8gb Ram, and a 128gb sataIII SSD with win10 and it works surprisingly well. However the jump in quality from a pavilion to a probook/elitebook/spectre is enormous; especially nowadays. That laptop was plastic and a pain to service, my elitebooks and probooks, like the mbp, have an easy access metal panel at the bottom. Pavilions are cheap-built compared to elitebook/probook. Also it has a unibody metal chassis
@@DJSekuHusky yeah i have two old hps plus my main pc (it was a gift and now i cant change the gpu or power supply) and one is an elitebook and that one is well built
Honestly, I didn't know ThinkPads were so robust but multiple people have mentioned that. Video was worth it just to learn that and I might pick one up!
MacBook Pro Retina Late 2013 here. Running latest supported MacOS Big Sur. Running faster than Mojave (my previous long-term used OS). Replaced the battery just once. A true survivor.
I have bought MacBook Pro 2012 unibody for 69€ with 8gb ram(one stick), 128GB ssd and original charger ten days ago. Installed Ventura via opencorelegacy. I have never before had experience Mac OS so I had to learn everything and I am still learning. I like my Mac a lot. Also this is my very own first pc ever. Battery kind of suck as it last about 1 hour but in the future I will replace it. Also I will add second ssd by removing cd/dvd drive. I can see me still rocking this bad boy in 10 years, maybe not on Mac OS but on Windows 11. Best thing I bought ever.
I have a 2012 mbpro 13 inch and I would like to get it upgraded to newer OS but I don’t know how. Can you send me info on how to get it done. I would appreciate any advice on how to do that and thank you very much.
Bought my first Mac, brand-new on 22/Mar/2023, it’s a 13.3” Gold M1 MacBook Air 8/256gb 7/8/16core, recently updated to macOS 15.0 with a battery health of 90% & around 60 charge cycles. Love it to the moon & back. It’s super fast. I will only upgrade once it stops receiving official/stable macOS updates from Apple..
Used to be* Yeah, "old" MBPs were really tough machines but newer ones can't even stand typing on them without having this shiny keys and it's been a few months only... :S
Louis Rossmann would like a word with you. I have 5 laptops at home all in perfect running condition. One from 1998, two from 2003, one from 2007 and one from 2014. All of them run perfectly fine apart from their batteries, which need replacing. Macs aren't particularly better in the longevity department than any other PC, and in many cases, they can be even worse due to Apple's often non-standard, anti-consumer, asinine designs.
sounds like a broken display cable, that macbook design was really bad for a lot of reasons (esp with display cables) and now thankfully no longer exists
Remember the ribbon cable being too short and rubbing against a sharp part of the frame, and literally just opening the laptop would cause it to break? I remember LOL.
After my 2008 15" MacBook Pro failed during sound-check before a 2 hour DJ set in 2011 (had the dreaded Nvidia GPU failure), I stopped buying new Macs and switched to only ThinkPads for my live shows. All that said, I still use Macs I've found over the years to repair and service other Macs for my side-hustle (consumer electronics repair). Here are a few of the machines I've saved from the clutches of the _landfill-monster_ : *-Mid 2015 MacBook Air 11" Core i5, 4GB, 512GB SSD* $77 (bought in 2015 with liquid damage for $50 and repaired for $27 more, still working in 2024) *-Early 2014 MacBook Pro Retina 13" Core i5, 8GB, 256GB SSD* (dumpster find, ribbon cable damaged (no display) so I use it as a headless machine) *-Mid 2012 MacBook Pro Unibody 13" Core i7, 16GB , 480GB SSD* (crushed chassis, rebuilt into free Core i5 model with liquid spill damage) *-Mid 2011 Mac mini Core i5, 16GB, 1TB SSD* (found in a corporate office building' dumpster) *-Mid 2010 MacBook Pro Unibody 13" Core 2 Duo (2.66), 8GB, 256GB SSD* (dumpster find, acted like bad drive controller, actually damaged HDD ribbon cable) *-Early 2008 MacBook Pro 17" (Penryn) Core 2 Duo 2.6, 4GB, 500GB HDD* (given to me to recycle, it was too clean to scrap and it's the only non-unibody I still use time to time)
@@lachlanlau Heck yeah, that's a solid score! I love my DT 770's, even if they are the 80 Ohm version they sound amazing. I hope they last you a good long while.
@ArneVanhove I have one of those. Upgrade the RAM to 8GB, then use OCLP to upgrade it to MacOS Monterrey - you'll be pleasantly surprised how much life there's left in that 2011 MBP. Mine is in regular daily use!
@@datathunderstorm well, how does that work? I 'hacked' mine to use the onboard intel gfx card instead of the ATI because that one is defective. Every time i did a major update, apple reverted that setting. So I'm a bit reluctant on updating. But you peaked my interest.
It's a bit odd to criticize soldered RAM and storage on the Windows side when there's nothing aftermarket upgradable at all in the Apple Silicon series
Wish it were like this still. M1 16" has a component that is close to the air inlet that is susceptible to short with a drop of water and let the SSD have 25 v instead of 2.5 v which will fry it. Another M1 and M2 (not sure which) has a hinge part that breaks and turns the whole Mac into a brick because the repair is too costly. I haven't had issues yet, but am warned not to use my hinge on my Mac 14" too often. So much for lack of planned obsolescence... But thanks for the interesting video!
I own an early-2015 MacBook Air, early-2015 MacBook Pro, and a 2020 M1 Air. Inspired largely by this channel's tutorials I upgraded the 2015 MB's first to Sonoma and then Sequoia and they responded perfectly each time. For Sequoia I even just allowed the Apple upgrade to Sequoia rather than the more elaborate OCLP process, then just patched with OCLP. Speed boost was obvious afterward. I enjoy the older MB's more than the (excellent) M1, probably semi-consciously biased by awareness of "planned obsolescence" M1 design.
I bought a MacBook Pro from 2011 two years ago. It runs Windows 10, and even Fortnite. But, I’ve never tried to buy an old Windows machine, so I can’t tell if only Macs last longer. But I have to consider that my Acer from 2008 still runs today too. Both have problems, Idk if “MacBooks last longer” is just a Pigmalion effect. Nice video btw, very professional!!!
This year I finally sold my 2014 15” Macbook pro retina. It served me well for 10 years and I assume continues to do so for its new owner. I replaced it with a maxed out 16” M1 Max model which I hope to use for another 10 years.
NGL, the PowerMac G4 _Quicksilver_ was one of my all-time favorite designs. (P.s. I ended up getting the subsequent dual-processor _Mirror Drive Door_ PowerMac G4 as my first non-linear video editing machine. )
I have a 2012 MacBook Air I still use for traveling, browsers are the most reliable apps so I can check my email, use spreadsheets, share documents, watch UA-cam just fine. But I even installed rolled back versions of Adobe CC apps and it managed a lot.
I’ve got a 2012 MacBook Pro i7 running el capitain, never changed the battery or anything like that just bought a m3 pro 16” which is a power house for music production I must say will definitely look at updating my old Intel Mac now still has its uses for sure definitely not going to scrap it. Good video thanks for the ideas .
Updated my Macbook Pro Mid 2012 with OCLP watching your video (thanks to you). Running MacOS Sequoia. Upgraded 16gb Ram from 8gb. Upgraded new battery and runs like brand new. Even though I have Macbook Air with M2 chip my old boy still is close to my heart
I'm running Monterey on my 2009 17" MacBook and it works quite well, i got it mainly to use Windows 10 and for the CD/DVD Drive but when i tested running Monterey on it i couldn't believe how smooth it worked on such an old laptop, some macs have internal design flaws like the 2009 & 2010 17" MacBooks have an issue with the capacitor Apple chose to use and nearly all fail which is what happened to mine but i got it fixed and my MacBook works great again. I can't believe how different the direction Apple has gone since the touch bar MacBooks in regards to user upgradability, what is very annoying about that is you may not need 2TB of storage at the time but over the years you may end up needing that and if you didn't get the 2TB model then you have to buy an entirely new MacBook. I put a 2TB SSD in mine and it's great to have so much storage and i can use the original 750GB HDD as a data storage device for older less needed files.
I just recently bought a refurbished 15 inch 2013 MacBook Pro i7 with 16GB of ram and a 500GB SSD for around $250. I bought it to goof around with Linux Mint 22, but after upgrading the software to macOS 11 Big Sur, I'm pleasantly surprised just how modern and responsive it still feels, not to mention how solidly constructed it is. My only complaint is that I forgot just how heavy these things can feel on your lap, but that's the tradeoff for the large screen, aluminum construction and the battery needed to run that Intel CPU. But overall I'd say it's still a very robust computing experience for almost anyone's needs. I can't imagine saying that about any other 11-year-old PC.
This video make me realise my 2018 MBP with Touchbar is only 4 years away from being a decade old. Use it for architectural CAD work and working quality preview renders. Zero complaints, other than tiny SSD
Me too, the comments on this video have made me really want to dive deep into ThinkPads because people keep reporting over and over again how amazing they are. It’s the only computer model that keeps showing up consistently in these comments alongside the Macs.
Thinkpad will last slightly longer as long as you don’t use it for video editing and gaming (that’s where the Thinkpad P-series come in) I still don’t like Lenovo‘s decision since T490 though ( as if the first Thinkpad redesign in T440 wasn’t bad enough)
Watching on a 2015 15" dual graphics running Sequoia, long after Tim Apple would have had it in a junk yard and me buying a new one through software obsolescence. It's so easy to patch to modern OSs it's a shame they don't support longer, because as this says the hardware is (usually, barring a few bloopers like the GPU solder and butterfly keyboard) great.
I have an early 2015 MacBook Pro. It’s built like a tank and still runs well and is running Sonoma. I just replaced the original battery and everything else is still running great. I;m planning to by a new M4 MBP when they drop and giving the old one to my wife to use for writing, presentations, and general computing. I imagine it will least for at least another 5 years lol!
My 2004 G4 PPC iBook will not die. I bought it new when it came out. Same with my 2009 MacBook Pro. They are backups now and the most solid electronics in our house.
I too have an iBook G4 PPC. It can be a bit temperamental at times and the original battery is finicky as to whether it is going to charge or not. Other than that it is a joy to use. My other laptops are: MacBook Air & MacBook… a few Compaq Armada’s and a Panasonic ToughBook.
I've a late 2008 MacBook Pro with 4GB RAM. Recently installed MacOS Catalina (with a patch). Runs really smooth. Note that I've changed the standard HDD with an SSD. Update: Installed Ventura, works great!
Generally, trackpad issues come from a bulging battery. Depending on your usage and staring conditions, batteries should last from 3-5 years in my experience. Are you having issues or just worried?
@AnsonAlexander i noticed one of my high end asus gaming laptops had a working trackpad but I noticed sometimes it would have slight issues after 3 years that happened occasionally I'm just new to mac and want to know what kind of quality parts mac use inc motherboard
you are great bro, i bootcamp my 2015 mac few weeks back and also updated to sonoma and will upgrade to seqouia too, all the processes have been smooth, thank you!
Yup, superior hardware only to obsolete us 10 years late with software updates. 2013 Macbook pro still usable but unsupported for new OS updates past Big Sur
My Dad has a 17 inch MacBook Pro from I think 2009, It was maxed out most expensive and still works strong, some program from his school was running wearing the battery down fast but now lasts about the same time as my iPad. Awesome video, I own a 2015 MacBook Pro too it’s great, I use it for school and never got a virus too versus my Windows PC I got a few but removed them. I like Apple tech alot.
A couple months ago brought a dozen MBP 2010-2012 so I can learn to fix Macs and install Monterey, Ventura, and Sonoma using OCLP. Learned so many things such as swapping out the DVD drive for a 2nd hard drive, check and replace transistors, fix dead macs. Also got a couple 2017-2019 MBP and learn to fix the butterfly keys. Such a shame that the newer macs solder the chips so impossible to replace the ram and storage. Hopefully they would review this in the near future.
I'm watching this on a 2009 Mac Pro that's running Sonoma. You can technically run up to Sequoia on Mac Book Pros as old as late 2008, but you run into some graphical issues because they're using non-metal GPUs. Also some apps that require AVX 2 will not work (that's an issue on my Mac Pro as well).
All of them, though I'd advice to look into a used model with an m1/m2/m3 pro chip, instantly doubling the base ram and ssd compared to a base m1/m2/m3 model, with some other nice bonuses, they can usually be found for pretty nice prices as well
I first watched your touch typing tutorials, and as a habit, I would scan the video for any computers or computer brands that are in it. When I noticed you using an iMac, something popped in my head, but I ignored it, as I had a slight hate on Macs because of their upgradability and compatibility. But now, you have taken that hate away from the Intel Macs, as they are based on Intel Processors and can run the best of both worlds. Thank you very much!🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Rocking a MacBook Pro 2014 base model with Sonoma, still going pretty smooth even with video editing. OLCP really is a weapon. But I Think I will upgrade soon to a M1 MacBook Air from 2020 to get the Apple Silicon performance. Great Video btw.
I have multiple 10 or more years old MacBooks/MacBook Pro/iMacs all running the latest macOS without issues thanks to OCLP. Replacing old hard disks for SSDs is a must one will never regret! I do not require the latest processors for speed so I am fine. Also these newer machines lack upgradability, a no-go for me! And should I need more processing power there is a Mac mini M1 and a iPad Pro M1.
Sure, an laptop from 2008 still works perfectly fine, but don't imagine trying to update that thing to Windows 11, even if you upgrade the laptop, you can just forget it. But a MacBook pro from 2008 is still usable on macOS Sequoia if you use something like OpenCore Lagacy patcher,and if you upgrade that thing to an SSD an 16GB of Ram, that thing is smooth like new.
I think this is a very true case, i just upgraded my 2013 macbook pro to sequoia as well, and i think with the latest OS my mac run even smoother now, even more than BigSur which is the last officially supported OS, and im only rocking a 4GB RAM version.
I still have MBP15 from 2015 (i7 4870 / 16GB RAM / 512GB SSD / Radeon x370m), maybe it's not my main machine but I was using it for around 6 years until M1Max. Great machine, still works, maybe it's not as fast as new Mac's but enough for web browsing or movies.
I have a 2017 MacBook Pro 15", retired it and moved to Apple silicon MacBook Pro 16" love them, classy quality, Scandalous that you can't use the older iMacs as a monitor without jumping through hoops.
Recently i’ve upgraded my macbook air 13” 2014 replacing his motherboard with i7/8GB/512 ssd and installed sonoma via open core: AMAZING. So i’ve also decided to fix my macbook pro 15” 2014 by replacing battery, fixing the flat cable of left fan, and install open core plus sonoma.. AMAZING x2!
@@Yellow-channell are you kidding me!? They don't! Their compositors are a joke and the genius bar will tell you just to replace the whole motherboard!!!!
@@SpectraVision-f5o the old MacBooks are very repairable and parts like the SSD could be replaced with newer drives the older MacBooks were pro repair and its very upgradable it’s a good way to learn how to repair things, you could even replace with your ram because ram is cheaper than what apple sells with newer apple silicone hardware also don’t go to the Genius Bar they’ll just try and scam you
My MacBook Pro 15 inch 2013 is my newest Mac. The others are older. Thanks to Ali express upgraded all plug in SSD with bigger ones. Baby wipes and window cleaner converted matte screen to glossy.
I’ve spent fortune back in 2014 for my MacBook Pro. I7 2.8ghz 16gb ram and 1TB SSD I’ve replaced battery twice so far and treat cpu & Gpu with new thermal paste 3x as well , it still runs smoothly for daily tasks, but now I can hear problem with right speaker 😢 Waiting for m4 line up to come out, think will be nice upgrade. Its over than decade now and it still can do a job but I’m into the music production as well and it shows its behind new software. Thinking of new basic MacBook Pro or MacBook Air m4 15”
I do use Mac air 2011 - upgraded to 256GB , Mac OS 10.13 , I use it for basic google searches, typing docs and watching stuff mostly offline… it is a light machine and works just fine. ( I can still edit photos in Lightroom). I might upgrade it to a newer model for looks and to be future proof kkkk
This dude is just saying if it breaks the Apple silicone Mac's are hard to fix as opposed to their x86 based counter parts. I used to have respect for Apple as a former Windows and now Linux user, because before the M series Mac's they made expensive, but sturdy machines that were just as up gradable as other brands now its like having a smartphone in laptop form factor not only are the SSD and RAM soldered , but some have firmware that locks out 3rd party replacements. I don't care about the less latency more important are the longevity of the device. To have good performance and battery does not help when something critical breaks...it's all useless then.
x86 gave Macs awesome versatility, however switch to Arm based custom chips is giving Apple incredible opportunities unimaginable by Intel. This comes with price of upgradeability like on package RAM or soldered SSD, however there r some advantages as well like much higher speeds and better latency of the on packaged RAM. It's pretty much clear Apple will approach Macs same as iPhones/iPads with single board design, however it would be nice to allow users at least to replace/expand SSD storage and add additional RAM module in addition to on packaged RAM. On the other hand Apple devices have the best resell value so user can upgrade this way as well. Overall Macs require different approach in comparison to the Windows PCs and it depends what do u prefer. I think having both PC and Mac is the best way to go as there might be specific use for both depending on the situation especially now with Arm based Macs with their robust but closed Apple ecosystem vs x86 based PCs with best legacy support, freedom and unprecedented versatility.
My home "desktop" is a fully loaded 15" mbp from 2015 that's bent down the middle with a cracked screen. I bought it in 2016 like that for $400, and have been running bootcamp on it on two displays ever since. I prefer windows over macOS, but I will be buying an M4 mbp shortly simply due to quality...
sadly i hever got a mac but instead a HP in the start of 2020 and now she is getting slow and rusty. battery cant hold charge anymore, dead pixels start apearing its bad. but anyway that was an amazing video! i hope more of them stay amazing thank you for the time and have a good day
I am using MBP mid 2012. It runs well with SSD and 16 gb ram. I plan to upgrade the mac os from Catalina to Monterey or Ventura with OCLP next time. This laptop is better than cheap Celeron windows laptops with the same price. hope it lasts long at least until I get a better job after my graduation.
Rocking a 2015 MacBook Air with 8GB of RAM and a 120 GB SSD. It’s still going strong and a pleasure to use, even if it’s running an older version of macos - Mojave
Have you ever changed the battery or replaced with new thermal paste on the chip?
after 9 yrs base model still have 8/128 configuration
nothing changed
thanks apple
my late 2015 air runs Sequoia surprisingly well with OCLP. may be something worth looking into, at least on a partition to try first
Use open core to try newer macos examples- sonoma
u might need to upgrade the RAM , SSD and try OCLP to update it to newer OS , ventura is quite stable but issues with sonoma and sequoia ...
Apple Store Genius here. I still maintain that the 2015 MacBook Pro is the best MacBook Apple has ever made
I am a user of one, I am curious your opinion: what made it stand out the test of time?
OCLP is a game changer for older Macbooks. They run many versions of Linux very well and Windows via Bootcamp is fantastic. That said, I don't like the new M series don't have easily replaceable storage and ram.
It's true that those machines are build like a tank, but every new release of MacOS has made my computer slower and slower.
Reformat it and do a clean install. I'm typing this on a 2010 Mac Pro 5,1 running macOS Sequoia Developer Beta from a NVME drive and it's lightning fast. If you want to get into "benchmarks", sure, my 9 month old MacBook Pro is "faster" on Cinebench and Blackmagic RAW Speed Test, but it's not noticeable in ANY daily user experience other than video transcoding where you can actually see a progress bar and time to complete for the same video across both devices. This beast has 128GB of DDR3 RAM in it and chews through everything instantly (video transcoding obviously takes time regardless of machine and MKBHD demonstrated that with a brand new $40k+ Mac Pro...which still took time to transcode video. Anson's original tutorial video on OpenCore Legacy Patcher from a few years ago has saved me untold amounts of money upgrading to new machines when it simply wasn't necessary. My 2011 Mac Mini & iMac, 2013 iMacs, 2016 Macbook are all running Sequoia just fine.
@@sergioyichiong7269 go troll someone else. It runs DaVinci Resolve and transcodes 4K video just fine.
@@sergioyichiong7269 yep I still have my late 2013 macbook pro. It works ok, but for large coding projects sucks. About hardware it is in pristine condition. I always take care of my electronic devices!! :)
Well obviously
For MacOS it depends, but for iOS on iPhones, each update definitely slows performance and hurts battery life thanks to all of the fancy new features that old phones sometimes can't even use at all.
Got a 2006 iMac running 22.04 Ubuntu Mate supported (free) till 2032 = 26 year old hardware still useful. 😀
Also have a 2006 iMac upgraded to 4GB RAM, otherwise, original hardware - including the ancient 160GB HDD.
It’s running a Linux distro and is still used on a regular basis for streaming news video websites on UA-cam in the background while I’m working on my main computer in my home office.
I got it for free in 2012 when it was about to be thrown out in the garbage.
In 2026 that machine will be 20 years old…!!!
Simply astonishing.
😃
I recently sold an old Macbook Air from 2012 on Ebay. I'm still stunned how this laptop worked for more than 12 years, it's just incredible....
I have a 2012 15“ MacBook Pro with the matte screen. Upgraded to 16 GB of RAM. One terabyte SSD and a OWC data doubler for another SSD. I took out the optical drive. I have it running Sonoma and Boot Camp with Windows 10. It’s still going strong for me, but I decided to finally upgrade two weeks ago to a used 2021 MacBook Pro M1 max with 64 GB RAM and 1TB storage. The Apple Silicon Mac is incredible and it was a welcome upgrade for me.
wouldn't expect the silicon mac to last as long as the 2012 one though
I was an IT Technician for years. In the IT team we all used MacBook Pro's even though the company ran Windows on everything, including Server.
We had endless issues with Surface laptops, HP high end laptops, Dell XPS BSOD issues etc.
But our Mac's never skipped a beat. They let me keep mine when I left and I'm still using it to this day. I might upgrade it to Sequoia using open core because why not?
We could easily remote into the servers using RDP and TeamViewer for users PCs to troubleshoot while still doing everything else on OS X.
3 finger swiping between full screen apps was super smooth and fast so multitasking was easy.
These are great machines and they are very popular with IT Teams
Every cheap PC (desktop) I've ever owned lasted easily ten years, maybe with one repair such as a power supply. Cheap laptops can also survive a long time if looked after well, in my experience particularly from good brands such as Lenovo, ASUS or HP.
it was all ok until you said hp, it cannot be true, hp is even more anti consumer than modern apple, the internals are weird, with poor built housings and modified internal ports to avoid updates. this was before apple stopped making macs reparable.
@@Lucas-yp6bm Maybe HP isn't so repairable, I'm not going to argue that, but mine has been okay. 6 years now of moderate use (maybe on borrowed time?). Everything is soldered in except the SSD, which I upgraded myself from 300GB to 1TB.
@@Lucas-yp6bm The only HP I've ever seen _not_ be crap build-quality is the EliteBook.
Everything else HP is e-waste the second you get a receipt...
Yep I have a 2011 pavilion g7 that I upgraded to an i7-2600qm (from i3), put 8gb Ram, and a 128gb sataIII SSD with win10 and it works surprisingly well. However the jump in quality from a pavilion to a probook/elitebook/spectre is enormous; especially nowadays. That laptop was plastic and a pain to service, my elitebooks and probooks, like the mbp, have an easy access metal panel at the bottom. Pavilions are cheap-built compared to elitebook/probook. Also it has a unibody metal chassis
@@DJSekuHusky yeah i have two old hps plus my main pc (it was a gift and now i cant change the gpu or power supply) and one is an elitebook and that one is well built
Old ThinkPads also last really long, except the plastic casings don’t usually hold up too well.
Honestly, I didn't know ThinkPads were so robust but multiple people have mentioned that. Video was worth it just to learn that and I might pick one up!
MacBook Pro Retina Late 2013 here. Running latest supported MacOS Big Sur. Running faster than Mojave (my previous long-term used OS). Replaced the battery just once. A true survivor.
What can I say about Mojave… to this day, my mind keeps playing with me and makes me think that after high sierra comes Catalina.
I have bought MacBook Pro 2012 unibody for 69€ with 8gb ram(one stick), 128GB ssd and original charger ten days ago. Installed Ventura via opencorelegacy. I have never before had experience Mac OS so I had to learn everything and I am still learning. I like my Mac a lot. Also this is my very own first pc ever. Battery kind of suck as it last about 1 hour but in the future I will replace it. Also I will add second ssd by removing cd/dvd drive. I can see me still rocking this bad boy in 10 years, maybe not on Mac OS but on Windows 11. Best thing I bought ever.
I have a 2012 mbpro 13 inch and I would like to get it upgraded to newer OS but I don’t know how. Can you send me info on how to get it done. I would appreciate any advice on how to do that and thank you very much.
@@jahman51search UA-cam for it. ;)
I have the same computer I recommend the ninja 🥷🏿 battery on Amazon comes with some nice drivers
"Quality is the best business plan" - died with Steve Jobs
it's just not quite the same
My 2017 MacBook still solid idk what you’re talking about
the M1 was post-jobs era and it shook the computing world
goldy_on_pc930 you're lucky that a ribbon cable hasn't decided to fry itself yet or something
@aquaponieee if u think I’m. “Lucky” for not having an issue a tiny fraction of devices of faced than I’d suggest you go play the lottery
Bought my first Mac, brand-new on 22/Mar/2023, it’s a 13.3” Gold M1 MacBook Air 8/256gb 7/8/16core, recently updated to macOS 15.0 with a battery health of 90% & around 60 charge cycles. Love it to the moon & back. It’s super fast. I will only upgrade once it stops receiving official/stable macOS updates from Apple..
Both of my 15pros failed..still using my old compaq with windows xp 😊
Used to be*
Yeah, "old" MBPs were really tough machines but newer ones can't even stand typing on them without having this shiny keys and it's been a few months only... :S
Louis Rossmann would like a word with you. I have 5 laptops at home all in perfect running condition. One from 1998, two from 2003, one from 2007 and one from 2014. All of them run perfectly fine apart from their batteries, which need replacing. Macs aren't particularly better in the longevity department than any other PC, and in many cases, they can be even worse due to Apple's often non-standard, anti-consumer, asinine designs.
2020 M1 mac Air and already the screen is Black and Green. That doesn’t say much, or
Or what
sounds like a broken display cable, that macbook design was really bad for a lot of reasons (esp with display cables) and now thankfully no longer exists
Remember the ribbon cable being too short and rubbing against a sharp part of the frame, and literally just opening the laptop would cause it to break? I remember LOL.
After my 2008 15" MacBook Pro failed during sound-check before a 2 hour DJ set in 2011 (had the dreaded Nvidia GPU failure), I stopped buying new Macs and switched to only ThinkPads for my live shows.
All that said, I still use Macs I've found over the years to repair and service other Macs for my side-hustle (consumer electronics repair).
Here are a few of the machines I've saved from the clutches of the _landfill-monster_ :
*-Mid 2015 MacBook Air 11" Core i5, 4GB, 512GB SSD* $77 (bought in 2015 with liquid damage for $50 and repaired for $27 more, still working in 2024)
*-Early 2014 MacBook Pro Retina 13" Core i5, 8GB, 256GB SSD* (dumpster find, ribbon cable damaged (no display) so I use it as a headless machine)
*-Mid 2012 MacBook Pro Unibody 13" Core i7, 16GB , 480GB SSD* (crushed chassis, rebuilt into free Core i5 model with liquid spill damage)
*-Mid 2011 Mac mini Core i5, 16GB, 1TB SSD* (found in a corporate office building' dumpster)
*-Mid 2010 MacBook Pro Unibody 13" Core 2 Duo (2.66), 8GB, 256GB SSD* (dumpster find, acted like bad drive controller, actually damaged HDD ribbon cable)
*-Early 2008 MacBook Pro 17" (Penryn) Core 2 Duo 2.6, 4GB, 500GB HDD* (given to me to recycle, it was too clean to scrap and it's the only non-unibody I still use time to time)
Love repairing things.. I got a pair of DT770's for $30 with a broken 3.5mm jack!
@@lachlanlau Heck yeah, that's a solid score! I love my DT 770's, even if they are the 80 Ohm version they sound amazing. I hope they last you a good long while.
Macbook Air 2013 13" user here. Still using it up to this day. Super worth it. Built to last a decade..
I have macbook pro early 2011 and I am still using it daily .
Still using my 2011 MacBook pro. Unfortunately it doesn't receive any updates anymore. Mid life I placed an SSD. That gave it a second life.
@ArneVanhove I have one of those. Upgrade the RAM to 8GB, then use OCLP to upgrade it to MacOS Monterrey - you'll be pleasantly surprised how much life there's left in that 2011 MBP.
Mine is in regular daily use!
@@datathunderstorm well, how does that work? I 'hacked' mine to use the onboard intel gfx card instead of the ATI because that one is defective. Every time i did a major update, apple reverted that setting. So I'm a bit reluctant on updating. But you peaked my interest.
It's a bit odd to criticize soldered RAM and storage on the Windows side when there's nothing aftermarket upgradable at all in the Apple Silicon series
Why would companies create aftermarket ram if the ram itself it's always soldered?
Straight diabolical for soldered ram and ssd if you ask me
Wish it were like this still. M1 16" has a component that is close to the air inlet that is susceptible to short with a drop of water and let the SSD have 25 v instead of 2.5 v which will fry it. Another M1 and M2 (not sure which) has a hinge part that breaks and turns the whole Mac into a brick because the repair is too costly. I haven't had issues yet, but am warned not to use my hinge on my Mac 14" too often. So much for lack of planned obsolescence... But thanks for the interesting video!
Changed the hard drive on my Mac mini 2014 and MacBook 2010 for SSD and they are working nice. They are not my main Mac’s but still works
I own an early-2015 MacBook Air, early-2015 MacBook Pro, and a 2020 M1 Air. Inspired largely by this channel's tutorials I upgraded the 2015 MB's first to Sonoma and then Sequoia and they responded perfectly each time. For Sequoia I even just allowed the Apple upgrade to Sequoia rather than the more elaborate OCLP process, then just patched with OCLP. Speed boost was obvious afterward. I enjoy the older MB's more than the (excellent) M1, probably semi-consciously biased by awareness of "planned obsolescence" M1 design.
I bought a MacBook Pro from 2011 two years ago. It runs Windows 10, and even Fortnite. But, I’ve never tried to buy an old Windows machine, so I can’t tell if only Macs last longer. But I have to consider that my Acer from 2008 still runs today too. Both have problems, Idk if “MacBooks last longer” is just a Pigmalion effect. Nice video btw, very professional!!!
This year I finally sold my 2014 15” Macbook pro retina. It served me well for 10 years and I assume continues to do so for its new owner. I replaced it with a maxed out 16” M1 Max model which I hope to use for another 10 years.
My oldest working Mac is from 2001 or in other words the "Quicksilver" model. Still working strong.
I've always wanted an MDD but they're hard to come by.
NGL, the PowerMac G4 _Quicksilver_ was one of my all-time favorite designs.
(P.s. I ended up getting the subsequent dual-processor _Mirror Drive Door_ PowerMac G4 as my first non-linear video editing machine. )
I have a 2012 MacBook Air I still use for traveling, browsers are the most reliable apps so I can check my email, use spreadsheets, share documents, watch UA-cam just fine. But I even installed rolled back versions of Adobe CC apps and it managed a lot.
My first Macbook Unibody late 2008, still have it today with windows 7 Home Premium.
I don't about all that ... I have a Corei7 HP Elitebook that I got in 2010 and it still works ... And I use it almost daily.
I’ve got a 2012 MacBook Pro i7 running el capitain, never changed the battery or anything like that just bought a m3 pro 16” which is a power house for music production I must say will definitely look at updating my old Intel Mac now still has its uses for sure definitely not going to scrap it. Good video thanks for the ideas .
Updated my Macbook Pro Mid 2012 with OCLP watching your video (thanks to you). Running MacOS Sequoia. Upgraded 16gb Ram from 8gb. Upgraded new battery and runs like brand new. Even though I have Macbook Air with M2 chip my old boy still is close to my heart
My MacBookAir from 2015 runs fine, I have upgraded the SSD to a twice as big as the original.
my intel celeron acer is still working after 15 years lol. i may have upgraded the ram and ssd but thats about it
Can you do any heavy lifting though or is it just a web browser these days?
I have a 2017 13inch MacBook Pro still working good. Its with an i7 and 16GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD.
Forgot about 2016 to 2019 era macbooks. Don't want to talk about their butterfly keyboards I see.
Found the Stinkpad user. Yeah, they tried something that sucked. Oh well, the computers still last longer than any PC.
The 2019's do not suffer from that only 16 17 and 18. Either way, I'd say one miss in 30 years is pretty good lol.
My Mac is A mid 2012 13 inch MacBook Pro, upgraded with 10gb of ram and 500gb ssd
Watching this on 2012 retina MacBook Pro… still running strong g
I'm running Monterey on my 2009 17" MacBook and it works quite well, i got it mainly to use Windows 10 and for the CD/DVD Drive but when i tested running Monterey on it i couldn't believe how smooth it worked on such an old laptop, some macs have internal design flaws like the 2009 & 2010 17" MacBooks have an issue with the capacitor Apple chose to use and nearly all fail which is what happened to mine but i got it fixed and my MacBook works great again. I can't believe how different the direction Apple has gone since the touch bar MacBooks in regards to user upgradability, what is very annoying about that is you may not need 2TB of storage at the time but over the years you may end up needing that and if you didn't get the 2TB model then you have to buy an entirely new MacBook. I put a 2TB SSD in mine and it's great to have so much storage and i can use the original 750GB HDD as a data storage device for older less needed files.
my macbook pro is going on 6 years old. Still love it
I just recently bought a refurbished 15 inch 2013 MacBook Pro i7 with 16GB of ram and a 500GB SSD for around $250. I bought it to goof around with Linux Mint 22, but after upgrading the software to macOS 11 Big Sur, I'm pleasantly surprised just how modern and responsive it still feels, not to mention how solidly constructed it is. My only complaint is that I forgot just how heavy these things can feel on your lap, but that's the tradeoff for the large screen, aluminum construction and the battery needed to run that Intel CPU. But overall I'd say it's still a very robust computing experience for almost anyone's needs. I can't imagine saying that about any other 11-year-old PC.
This video make me realise my 2018 MBP with Touchbar is only 4 years away from being a decade old.
Use it for architectural CAD work and working quality preview renders. Zero complaints, other than tiny SSD
I have a 2005 12” PowerBook that still Works!! I have a 2015 Retina MBP and I recently purchased a 16” MBP.
My Macbook Pro 15, 2011 + Sonoma goes like butter and do all heavy tasks like latest Photoshop, Illustrator, video editing and Mac/MS-Office.
I have a Thinkpad T16 Gen 2 and MacBook Air M3, curious to see which one will last longer.
Me too, the comments on this video have made me really want to dive deep into ThinkPads because people keep reporting over and over again how amazing they are. It’s the only computer model that keeps showing up consistently in these comments alongside the Macs.
Thinkpad will last slightly longer as long as you don’t use it for video editing and gaming (that’s where the Thinkpad P-series come in)
I still don’t like Lenovo‘s decision since T490 though ( as if the first Thinkpad redesign in T440 wasn’t bad enough)
Watching on a 2015 15" dual graphics running Sequoia, long after Tim Apple would have had it in a junk yard and me buying a new one through software obsolescence. It's so easy to patch to modern OSs it's a shame they don't support longer, because as this says the hardware is (usually, barring a few bloopers like the GPU solder and butterfly keyboard) great.
I have an early 2015 MacBook Pro. It’s built like a tank and still runs well and is running Sonoma. I just replaced the original battery and everything else is still running great. I;m planning to by a new M4 MBP when they drop and giving the old one to my wife to use for writing, presentations, and general computing. I imagine it will least for at least another 5 years lol!
My 2004 G4 PPC iBook will not die. I bought it new when it came out. Same with my 2009 MacBook Pro. They are backups now and the most solid electronics in our house.
I too have an iBook G4 PPC. It can be a bit temperamental at times and the original battery is finicky as to whether it is going to charge or not. Other than that it is a joy to use. My other laptops are: MacBook Air & MacBook… a few Compaq Armada’s and a Panasonic ToughBook.
I've a late 2008 MacBook Pro with 4GB RAM. Recently installed MacOS Catalina (with a patch). Runs really smooth. Note that I've changed the standard HDD with an SSD.
Update: Installed Ventura, works great!
Just can't give up my 2013 15" Retina MacBook Pro running Sonoma with plans to update soon.
I upgraded from a 2017 MacBook Pro to the MacBook Air 15” M2. Love it!
My M1 MAX is 1 years old in about a week..curious how long should trackpad last without issues
Generally, trackpad issues come from a bulging battery. Depending on your usage and staring conditions, batteries should last from 3-5 years in my experience. Are you having issues or just worried?
@AnsonAlexander i noticed one of my high end asus gaming laptops had a working trackpad but I noticed sometimes it would have slight issues after 3 years that happened occasionally I'm just new to mac and want to know what kind of quality parts mac use inc motherboard
you are great bro, i bootcamp my 2015 mac few weeks back and also updated to sonoma and will upgrade to seqouia too, all the processes have been smooth, thank you!
Yup, superior hardware only to obsolete us 10 years late with software updates. 2013 Macbook pro still usable but unsupported for new OS updates past Big Sur
I installed Linux. Working fine.
What do you expect, for them to support your hardware forever?
@@specy_ Yes
@@specy_ They change the technology specifically to obsolete the hardware. They've admitted as much.
I have a late 2008 MacBook and I had the ram increased to 8 GB and an SSD drive put in as well as a new battery. It works pretty good!
ipad pro 1st gen, 2012 mac mini upgraded ram and ssd, 2012 imac open core patcher upgraded ram and ssd, 2015 MBP all still running great
MacBook Air from 2012 still running, only battery could be swapped, but other than that: incredible.
My Dad has a 17 inch MacBook Pro from I think 2009, It was maxed out most expensive and still works strong, some program from his school was running wearing the battery down fast but now lasts about the same time as my iPad. Awesome video, I own a 2015 MacBook Pro too it’s great, I use it for school and never got a virus too versus my Windows PC I got a few but removed them. I like Apple tech alot.
I still use my retina MacBook Pro mid 2012 model for remote work it’s still a beast
I have 2012 Retina MacBook, and still running. Few issues like battery only last 4hours, and the heat. Other than that, it is still usable.
I'm getting a 2010 15" MacBook pro tomorrow so excited 🤗
A couple months ago brought a dozen MBP 2010-2012 so I can learn to fix Macs and install Monterey, Ventura, and Sonoma using OCLP. Learned so many things such as swapping out the DVD drive for a 2nd hard drive, check and replace transistors, fix dead macs.
Also got a couple 2017-2019 MBP and learn to fix the butterfly keys. Such a shame that the newer macs solder the chips so impossible to replace the ram and storage. Hopefully they would review this in the near future.
I'm watching this on a 2009 Mac Pro that's running Sonoma. You can technically run up to Sequoia on Mac Book Pros as old as late 2008, but you run into some graphical issues because they're using non-metal GPUs. Also some apps that require AVX 2 will not work (that's an issue on my Mac Pro as well).
Can you suggest which will be suitable for programming language coding M1,M2 or M3 ?
if you have money get m3 . m1 is still extremely fast if your on a budget m2 theres no point
All of them, though I'd advice to look into a used model with an m1/m2/m3 pro chip, instantly doubling the base ram and ssd compared to a base m1/m2/m3 model, with some other nice bonuses, they can usually be found for pretty nice prices as well
Depending on what kind of programming. My M1 took about half hours to compile my C++ (full build), I bet it would be much shorter on newer chip.
Ive had one macbook ever and i got in 2012, ive switched 4 different pcs during its life time but the macbook still runs
I first watched your touch typing tutorials, and as a habit, I would scan the video for any computers or computer brands that are in it. When I noticed you using an iMac, something popped in my head, but I ignored it, as I had a slight hate on Macs because of their upgradability and compatibility. But now, you have taken that hate away from the Intel Macs, as they are based on Intel Processors and can run the best of both worlds. Thank you very much!🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Rocking a MacBook Pro 2014 base model with Sonoma, still going pretty smooth even with video editing. OLCP really is a weapon. But I Think I will upgrade soon to a M1 MacBook Air from 2020 to get the Apple Silicon performance. Great Video btw.
I have multiple 10 or more years old MacBooks/MacBook Pro/iMacs all running the latest macOS without issues thanks to OCLP. Replacing old hard disks for SSDs is a must one will never regret! I do not require the latest processors for speed so I am fine. Also these newer machines lack upgradability, a no-go for me! And should I need more processing power there is a Mac mini M1 and a iPad Pro M1.
Recently got a macbook pro of 2012.. installed Ubuntu and man o man..
Have a m3 max mbp, going strong, had to upgrade from M1 Mac Air to this since last one was getting too heated
I have a M1 MBP and I've never heard it's fan turn on in the last 4 years.
@@moldyrefrigerator I use for programming and lot of chrome tabs, sometimes in my lap on bed, it gets heated and I often hear fans
Still using 2009 MBP, upgraded ram and ssd, still very clean without any scratches or marks, thanks to OCLP it's running macOS Monterey seamlessly
Sure, an laptop from 2008 still works perfectly fine, but don't imagine trying to update that thing to Windows 11, even if you upgrade the laptop, you can just forget it. But a MacBook pro from 2008 is still usable on macOS Sequoia if you use something like OpenCore Lagacy patcher,and if you upgrade that thing to an SSD an 16GB of Ram, that thing is smooth like new.
I think this is a very true case, i just upgraded my 2013 macbook pro to sequoia as well, and i think with the latest OS my mac run even smoother now, even more than BigSur which is the last officially supported OS, and im only rocking a 4GB RAM version.
Nice to see another Anson who loves electronics and apple!
I still have MBP15 from 2015 (i7 4870 / 16GB RAM / 512GB SSD / Radeon x370m), maybe it's not my main machine but I was using it for around 6 years until M1Max.
Great machine, still works, maybe it's not as fast as new Mac's but enough for web browsing or movies.
i have 2012 macbook pro and a mac pro 2010 5,1 both running Sequoia flawlessly and both still look lile almost new.
My mid 2010 17” MBP still functions, although I’d like to try upgrading it to a newer OS and SSD.
What OS are you on? Unsupported installs can be more challenging if you’ve upgraded the SSD - just a heads up.
@@AnsonAlexander Currently using High Sierra 10.13.6 as well as the original 500gb hard drive.
I have a 2017 MacBook Pro 15", retired it and moved to Apple silicon MacBook Pro 16" love them, classy quality, Scandalous that you can't use the older iMacs as a monitor without jumping through hoops.
Recently i’ve upgraded my macbook air 13” 2014 replacing his motherboard with i7/8GB/512 ssd and installed sonoma via open core: AMAZING.
So i’ve also decided to fix my macbook pro 15” 2014 by replacing battery, fixing the flat cable of left fan, and install open core plus sonoma.. AMAZING x2!
Still using my MacBook Pro Retina Late 2013 every day!
I am totally rocking the same 2013 MacBook Pro running Sequoia macOS with OpenCore.
They don't..
Nah they do the old MacBooks were like thinkpads
@@Yellow-channell are you kidding me!? They don't! Their compositors are a joke and the genius bar will tell you just to replace the whole motherboard!!!!
@@SpectraVision-f5o the old MacBooks are very repairable and parts like the SSD could be replaced with newer drives the older MacBooks were pro repair and its very upgradable it’s a good way to learn how to repair things, you could even replace with your ram because ram is cheaper than what apple sells with newer apple silicone hardware also don’t go to the Genius Bar they’ll just try and scam you
@@Yellow-channell dude. They were good for a very short period of time a decade ago! Stfu. Anything past 2013 is garbage
@@Yellow-channell I get it you want a nice case with shitty internals. that horrible butterfly keyboard. Yeah dude, get a clue
My MacBook Pro 15 inch 2013 is my newest Mac. The others are older. Thanks to Ali express upgraded all plug in SSD with bigger ones.
Baby wipes and window cleaner converted matte screen to glossy.
My oldest Mac is a 1997 PowerMac 9600/200MP upgraded with a G3 processor board and 1GB of RAM. Of course, MacOS 9.2.1 runs from a SSD.
I’ve spent fortune back in 2014 for my MacBook Pro. I7 2.8ghz 16gb ram and 1TB SSD
I’ve replaced battery twice so far and treat cpu & Gpu with new thermal paste 3x as well , it still runs smoothly for daily tasks, but now I can hear problem with right speaker 😢
Waiting for m4 line up to come out, think will be nice upgrade. Its over than decade now and it still can do a job but I’m into the music production as well and it shows its behind new software. Thinking of new basic MacBook Pro or MacBook Air m4 15”
I do use Mac air 2011 - upgraded to 256GB , Mac OS 10.13 , I use it for basic google searches, typing docs and watching stuff mostly offline… it is a light machine and works just fine. ( I can still edit photos in Lightroom).
I might upgrade it to a newer model for looks and to be future proof kkkk
Got no complaints with my M1pro mac, hope it last like the older ones
This also works for iMacs, I've used my first one for nine years and my current iMac is from 2019 still going as new.
Why Do Macs Last So Long? The new Macs are disposable -- they cannot be upgraded or maintained.
And yet, there are an alarming number of them out in the wild, not upgraded, still getting security updates.
Glued together
This dude is just saying if it breaks the Apple silicone Mac's are hard to fix as opposed to their x86 based counter parts. I used to have respect for Apple as a former Windows and now Linux user, because before the M series Mac's they made expensive, but sturdy machines that were just as up gradable as other brands now its like having a smartphone in laptop form factor not only are the SSD and RAM soldered , but some have firmware that locks out 3rd party replacements. I don't care about the less latency more important are the longevity of the device. To have good performance and battery does not help when something critical breaks...it's all useless then.
Wrong. I have. 2013 MacBook running the latest MacOS just fine!
@@donelson52 You just installed it normally from Apple?
My late 2008 MacBook Pro lost his last breath a couple of months ago and it was a beast
x86 gave Macs awesome versatility, however switch to Arm based custom chips is giving Apple incredible opportunities unimaginable by Intel. This comes with price of upgradeability like on package RAM or soldered SSD, however there r some advantages as well like much higher speeds and better latency of the on packaged RAM. It's pretty much clear Apple will approach Macs same as iPhones/iPads with single board design, however it would be nice to allow users at least to replace/expand SSD storage and add additional RAM module in addition to on packaged RAM. On the other hand Apple devices have the best resell value so user can upgrade this way as well. Overall Macs require different approach in comparison to the Windows PCs and it depends what do u prefer. I think having both PC and Mac is the best way to go as there might be specific use for both depending on the situation especially now with Arm based Macs with their robust but closed Apple ecosystem vs x86 based PCs with best legacy support, freedom and unprecedented versatility.
Love all of this.
@@AnsonAlexander 👍
My home "desktop" is a fully loaded 15" mbp from 2015 that's bent down the middle with a cracked screen. I bought it in 2016 like that for $400, and have been running bootcamp on it on two displays ever since. I prefer windows over macOS, but I will be buying an M4 mbp shortly simply due to quality...
sadly i hever got a mac but instead a HP in the start of 2020 and now she is getting slow and rusty. battery cant hold charge anymore, dead pixels start apearing its bad. but anyway that was an amazing video! i hope more of them stay amazing thank you for the time and have a good day
I’m on a 2012 MacBook Pro running macOS Sonoma, plan to upgrade it to sequoia soon! Great video! 👍
Just got a 2024 MBA 16gb/ 512gb, and looking forward to it lasting me for a long time, currently deciding to go back to school..
2011 Mac Mini plays DVD collection. 2017 Mac Air is now running Chrome Flex.
Love it!
I am using MBP mid 2012. It runs well with SSD and 16 gb ram. I plan to upgrade the mac os from Catalina to Monterey or Ventura with OCLP next time. This laptop is better than cheap Celeron windows laptops with the same price. hope it lasts long at least until I get a better job after my graduation.