Destiny 2 Lore - So why hasn't Rasputin gone all Skynet on us? How Ana stopped him from being evil!
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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2022
- Destiny 2's Lore and Story tells us a lot about how Rasputin was created and it also demonstrates to us that there was a lot of room for him to fall into the typical sci-fi trope of being an evil AI. But unlike Skynet, Durandal, Hal 9000 or Shodan, Rasputin has been guided away from being destructive, evil or openly aggressive to humanity. The reason why is thanks to Ana Bray, who helped him find, for lack of a better word... his soul.
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She played Ra Ra Rasputin and he was like ”this shit goes hard“, so he decided humans were awesome.
Indeed. He'd be adding his own chorus though:
Ra ra Rasputin
Go help the Awoken Queen
Xivu Arath brings combat for all
Ra ra Rasputin
More than Clovis' war machine
He will defend the peoples of Sol.
@@Northfan42
There lived a godmachine on Mars not long ago
It was big and strong, in its core an orange glow
Most people looked at it with terror and with fear
But it was beautiful to the human engineers.
@@requiemlul3140 Does this need to be a full song?
@@Northfan42 yes
Still waiting for us to stumble upon his exo version of Boney M in some long forgotten bunker.
Ana playing violin with a smile and just enjoying herself trying to teach Rasputin honestly made me so happy o7
I find that pretty wholesome
that whole cutscene made me happy
That whole part of this cutscene always makes me feel good for some reason
@@FoxGoesSquee bungie doesn’t miss with those inkblot cutscenes
All I kept thinking was, is this how we get the plot where the Witness takes out an Uno reverse card & introduces us to the enhanced version of the Reapers from Mass Effect, that slumber away in dark space. Since, the whole Reaper harvest started with an A.I going rogue on their creator (Leviathans).
I've always loved Destiny's themes of duality, but the "human-like machine vs machine-like human" takes it to another, much more relatable level. I'm loving this storyline.
I've always thought that Rasputin was more human than he really got credit for. He was just trapped behind limits put on him because of the purpose he was created for but you could still tell there was a personality there. It's so good to see him being used in a way that gives us a new look at what he wants to do without being limited. I hope that he doesn't become completely irrelevant after this season. I want more story with our new robo-bro.
I wouldn't say he's human, because he doesn't have- or need to have- humanity. He's a person, yes, but human and person are not the same. It's a bit of a philosophical diatribe, but we wouldn't say Misraaks has humanity, or Caiatl has humanity, because that implies that humanity is somehow greater than all their own experiences as non-human beings.
Empathy, compassion, altruism; these are not uniquely human capabilities.
Sorry, just figured I'd bring that up.
@Boisegang I would say Rasputin is more human than Clovis though
@@diretimetitan6756 but so is literal dirt so thats not a high bar
Something tells me he's not gonna be relevant after this season.
He's been in the spotlight for 3 stories, 4 if you count Rise of Iron cuz of Siva.
I mean, Mithrax showed up again in Plunder even after his introduction in Splicer. This is the third season that's been focused on Rasputin, so I don't think Bungie is done with Big Red just yet. He's properly a member of the team now.
Rasputin isn’t the only robot who loves music!
There’s a scannable portal in the Hallows on Nessus where ghost tells us that the Vex are scanning and analyzing Classic Rock from the Golden Age!
Getting their load of Poison and Guns and Roses in... niiice
Perfection
My head canon is that the Vex on Io listened to synth and glam rock while the Vex on Nessus listen to industrial and heavy metal. The jury is out in what the Vex on Europa listen to.
@@arsenalxa4421 The Europa Vex listen to Sabaton and Christmas music
@@GetDougDimmadomed no wonder they are so murderous, Christmas music all day, everyday is painful
Back in college, I remember having some deep and heated philosophical discussions with my classmates regarding artificial intelligence.
I always held the idea that if you were to create a being filled with information but zero context, it would always develop poorly.
After all, as far as we understand it, living things aren't born with a great deal of knowledge.
However, if you were to raise an artificial intelligence like a human child. Teach it your ethics, morality, and culture one would ultimately end up with a being no different than oneself for the most part.
It also raises some interesting questions regarding humanity. If you were to create life and raise it as your own, would it have the "soul" of a human? Could it be considered human? What if they identify, even in part, with the governing ideals of its creator or creators? What if they identify as human?
Is Humanity a condition of material being (ie. biology), one of cognition or "soul", or of culture/ideals/philosophy?
That goes into the question of what does it mean to be Human, what are the defining qualities that makes you a Human being.
Nature vs Nurture argument is always an interesting topic as I think most people would assume it leans someplace in the middle. Having it explored in fiction, especially in non-human characters is always interesting.
Wouldn't be human, as that's a biological classification, but it would definitely be sentient. What is considered 'Humanity' is just Empathy, and we Humans don't have a monopoly on that by any means. Darwin actually had a theory called Natural Morality, which talked about how morals are based off empathy and how evolution has turned that empathy into a survival trait. If I help a random stranger, maybe some random stranger will help me when I need it.
I've always loved this theme in Sci-fi, but in reality a computer-based program wouldn't be able to "learn" like a human. It would process too quickly, and is why they just end up downloading all the data
Rasputin calling Fellwinter his son in the heist mission end dialogue this week really hit it home. He has changed, he regrets, LOVING the story this season.
Why don't know why... But the thought of an AI writing poetry because they like it it's so beautiful, that almost makes me cry...
Funny enough, Rasputin is also a fan of ballet, and classical music in general.
I did shed tears, that was actually very beautiful and touching.
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Rasputin really described what he feels. Tbh I really like rasputin's poem. It's very touching
It truly is.
Also we should mention that the cadence is very artistic.
@@mizquitl yeah
Rasputin would’ve gone Skynet on behalf of Clovis Bray is it wasn’t for Ana. She didn’t even know how important her influence on Rasputin was!
Y'know, I think its starting to become clear that Anna is probably one of the most important humans in the history of Destiny's universe and a savior of humanity. And the best part is that she didn't do it through violence or being a mighty warrior; she did it through art, culture, science and literature. She did it through all that humanity had to offer, against the wishes of her grandfather, the 'oh so brilliant' Clovis Bray. She does not get nearly enough credit for single handedly preventing Rasputin from becoming a machine war god under the control of an ego maniac.
I think the fact that felwinter, who was technically a partition of Rasputin, was deemed worthy of the light, shows us that Rasputin is fully a person, and is definitely more than just the lines of code that clovis originally intended him to be
This week's inkblot cutscenes is possibly my favorite. Such a cool introduction to the personality of a character we have heard so much about.
Is that what people are calling them? Neat!
Rasputin in his current state reminds me of the AI from "Person of Interest", and for similar reason... that AI was taught morality and human culture, and came to appreciate humanity for what it is (as opposed to it's nemesis AI in the later seasons that wasn't).
The machine is dope
Yes, yes she was.
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Amazing show.
Person of Interest was amazing, glad to be randomly reminded of it tbh
Mama Ana, teaching Rasputin about humanity and to cherish all life.
The fact that Rasputin is an AI with “personhood” I feel would be better emphasized if later in the Dark vs Light saga, he used Neomuna’s advanced nanotechnology to upgrade his personal Exo frame to match his personality as the Warmind. The frame is great, but I’ve seen fanart that looks really great which matches his personality.
I was also thinking about that. Just imagine with established communications between The Last City and Neomuna the tech advancement of the Last City would shoot up amazingly high.
They already have nanotechnology far superior than Siva. Just imagine what that could do.
Fan art you say? Hmm interesting
@@zeraphphalanx2794 I’ve long speculated how the City Age could continue into a new era after we’d kill the Witness and destroy the Black Fleet. With the combined knowledge and technology of the Coalition, Rasputin, and Neomuna included, the Coalition could create and rebuild new and old colonies around Sol, creating more cities and strongholds for us and our allies. “Taking back ground”, as Saint would say, we’d probably go though a short period of peace in this new era. With the knowledge of the Golden Age, Dark Age, current age, and before the Golden Age, having restored much of our lost history to our archives, thanks to Rasputin and Neomuna.
@@garrettviewegh677 it'll be a second golden age with the Last City becoming the First City of the new era. I really like your speculation. I believe that out of respect for Misraaks and all that he's done and accomplished the Eliksni will be given Europa as their new home. It'll probably be called Riis-Europa.
The Cabal will most likely return to Torabatl and rebuild their homeworld with our teacher and mentor Lord Saladin going with them to ensure Human and Cabal relations remain strong.
Wreckage of the black fleet will be huge war spoils for all of us. Reverse engineering the technology would give us the ability to travel further beyond Sol and into other regions of the Milky way galaxy and beyond.
@@zeraphphalanx2794 I can see the City (on Earth) becoming a hub, for allies of different races/factions in the Coalition, to collaborate and meet. With the representatives from each faction of the Coalition, and new citizen representatives becoming a council to replace the old Consensus. A City rebuilt using technology and knowledge from our new allies, the Citu would represent our unity and continued hope against overwhelming odds.
I just had another thought on it. Up until his reawakening in the Exoframe with Felwinter's mojo mixed in, I think there was a vital component missing from Rasputin. He had a love and appreciation for humanity. But for humanity as a whole. the Idea of it, but not down to the individual. And I think the "Cranky old Man" Tyrant persona was influenced by that. He didn't have a connection to Individuals. I think being integrated with Felwinter's memories changed that. He actually had EQ before, hence his decision on his own terms that we were worth saving, but due to his vast mind and age, it wasn't tuned to individuals fully. Now? His first concern after deleting Copy-Clovis is Ana's Wellbeing. Every interaction since has been a mix of pure professionalism and humble inquiry. Though I can't help but imagine a small wry smirk in one dialogue on Europa where he dismisses Clovis like an employee that was just laid off and hung up on him. I attribute this to Felwinter's memories of him and life in general, and to having been humbled at the hands of the Witness...
Which is another point. Clovis didn give it up voluntarily, but the Darkness, and thus the Witness, had it's fingers in Europa for a LONG time. Red was flipped off like a switch. I think the Witness had a backdoor in his code. Possibly using the backdoors that most Golden Age computer systems had specifically for Rasputin's use. Hopefully that's been patched.
A good guess, but there's evidence to the contrary. The Season of Worthy Dialogue Rasputin had with Zavala, where he played Zavala a small sample of some of what he heard while the collapse was actually occuring. He wouldn't do that if he didn't feel a connection to humanity.
You probably have heard that a cornered animal is at it's most dangerous. That's exactly what Rasputin was for a long time. He killed Felwinter because Felwinter was a security breach. He killed members of the vanguard when they brought extra attention to him. He also was perfectly happy to accept the Guardian's help any time our enemies would try to go after him, and he gave us Sleeper Simulant as repayment.
Rasputin gained his bad reputation from his slaughter of the Iron lords, and the actions he took during the collapse. But, when you look at both as Rasputin doing what he felt was necessary for his survival, you can see both sides of the situation a bit clearer. Rasputin was acting in a very Machiavellian fashion. As long as he survived to help fight another day, the ends justified the means.
Also, it might not even be some sort of backdoor, it might be just good old fashioned space magic. Stasis in theory could also explain how Rasputin got shut down. Electricity which is still the basis of Rasputin's very advanced electronics relies on the movement of Electrons, and stasis can halt movement. Simply a case of causal force versus paracausal force.
The Witness is a good point to make though. Clovis sent a message saying 'They Know' Clovis might be working alongside the Witness.
@@tylerbarse2866 Hmmm. Yea, Alright, I'm at least somewhat convinced. That said, I suspect MIDNIGHT EXIGENT, that machiavellian protocol, has probably been suspended.
@@steelgriffin7716 If not now, it will be after the events of this season. Rasputin can communicate with us like never before thanks to his fight with the Clovis A.I.
Rasputin has a lot more going for him this time around. Allies who he trusts and trust him. A way to communicate with those allies. And new knowledge about paracausality. Remember, Felwinter was also the warlock who could use Shoulder Charge, Jolder taught him how.
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I think it's quite ironic and poetic that a natural human turned machine (Clovis) is extremely evil, while a man-made machine formed a soul (Rasputin) became quite human and good.
Depends on which Clovis you are talking about. The AI(definitely) and then you have the real Clovis(Banshee-44).
If Ana calls Clovis 1 grandpa, does that mean we can also call Banshee-44 grandpa? 🤔
The Grandfather Gunsmith, very interesting.
@@inoli3164 Ana, why did bungie let you have TWO grandpas?
@Elite Gamer not exactly, banshee became his own person even when he was freshly booted up. He shares nothing in relation to clovis, and those 44 resets further drove those differences apart
With the full context, the artwork that's above the season pass goes unbelievably hard. What at first looked like an empty shell to temporarily host an IA now represents the bond between Rasputin and Ana, and the lives that she saved by letting it be more than just a souless machine, a weapon, she gave him the ability to feel and care about humanity.
ngl, I am a Rasputin stan. Thank you so much for this video and your explanation of how Rasputin was humanized.
The theme of redemption has been heavy through the years so it makes sense he's our "new" buddy in the ongoing fight. Would have been extra awesome if he turned out to be bad and we got warmind frames to fight
If Clovis gives himself over to the Witness and their forces get him uploaded to the station we still might get that.
@@horrorfan117 I still don't think Clovis is going to willingly serve the Witness. I even suspect that even if threatened with destruction(And could spit), that giant head would spit in Clarity's Eye. He doesn't have any loyalty to anyone but himself. I also have a feeling that The Witness has tired of both Failure and Treachery. We have Savvy to thank for the latter, and I think Eramis and house Salvation are the example of the former. Clovis will be a Wildcard Catspaw at worst, and removed for being a problem at best. While we obviously havent seen it voiced, I wouldn't be surprised if he's gotten to the point that he views Clarity with the same contempt he viewed the Traveler. He may already have viewed it that way, but warmed up to Clarity more given how it played to his ego and so on. He's also not stupid. His actions were in direct opposition to the Witness so he may already be on the chopping block.
I mean is it really redemption if he was never a bad guy to begin with?
@@nikik5567 yes
@@nikik5567 Yea, Kinda. Redeeming from being an asshole. Because lets face, The Tyrant was a dick.
What I love most about Rasputin is that he deems humanity worthy of saving. He calls us fragile, and indeed we are. But where most AIs would see our fragility and history of bloodshed and deem us to be vermin, Rasputin sees our potential to create beauty. So much fiction is pessimistic and only focuses on the evils of humanity, and that attitude is all too common in real life as well. It's refreshing to see something take a more optimistic approach. Humans are certainly capable of horrible things, but we're capable of wonderful things too. I'm glad Rasputin (and the Bungie staff who wrote him) are able to see that.
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Iirc Rasputin killed fireteams who tried to help out when incursions happened in those bunkers.
From the Fallen S.A.B.E.R. Strike, Zavala said the bodies of those fireteams were strewn about the Skywatch.
There’s a reason why guardians called him “The Tyrant” too.
Yep, Rasputin is not faultless. I'm not sure of the timeline, but he was dormant for a time, and he awoke to find guardians as a new concept. I don't know if he woke in the age of warlords or past it, but anyone without prior context to guardians would see them as ultra-powerful, undying, forces of nature that use the corpses of humanity as their vessel. It's not a stretch to think rasputin thought they were a malevolent force (esp. with knowledge of myths and legends). So he was biased against guardians for a time, and somewhat gruesomely showcased that in the case of the Iron Lords *(Further complicating that was Felwinter, a guardian born off the corpse of a SIDDHARTA GOLEM which had a potentially distressing level of access to the Warmind's systems).*
To play devil's advocate a bit here, we don't actually _know_ what kind of "help" those guardians proffered, as we never hear anything more than what Zavala says. It wouldn't surprise me to find out those fireteams started poking around in places they shouldn't have and triggered defense mechanisms.
@@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong There really isn’t anything to draw that conclusion since Rasputin didn’t let ANY un-authorized lifeforms within his bunkers. All were threats to him. We’d always have to hijack our way into Warmind bunkers in D1 or slip in while other races like Fallen or Taken are busting down the doors.
I want Failsafe to get a exo body. Maybe they can make it happen if they ever sunset Nessus.
Annoying character that gen z loves. They should make her eat tide pods and vape in her middle school bathroom too
failsafe: "But captain, their frames have inadequate storage for my programming" *other failsafe* "sigh, believe me, I've tried."
Failsafe is a lot less complicated and smaller tha. Rasputin if we can get an experimental exo frame like the one for Rasputin it could work.
They totally forgot about her. They forget about a lot of things...
@@bannedmann4469 There's a LOT of potential stories, so I don't fault them that they've built a large enough world that characters like failsafe are unfortunately sidelined.
Clovis Bray: “But i wanted it to be evil!”
Mermaid Man “EEEEVVVVVVIIIIIILLLLLLL”
I'm going to be honest, when you read that poem from the second lore page with the Anastasia music in the back ground, it fricking moved my heart man.
Honestly wouldn't mind if you read more poems from big red or from someone else from destiny.
Imagine if Fail-safe tried poetry lol xD
Hearing poetry from an AI that was originally built for war, speaking of love and compassion and self-worth, hit me harder than I expected. Rasputin is such a good character, and seeing him grow and evolve from a weapon to a person brings a tear to my eye.
The real interesting part of this video is witnessing the universal pain of not clearing the bunker doors of glyphs in two runs at 11:08
Always glad to watch/listen to Byf's videos.
speaking of that cutscene anyone else noticed that the UK and Ireland are not there at all? Must have been a hell of a collapse for us
Well it seems like the UK and Ireland where already gone by the time of the collapse
Yeah I saw that, I was so confused what happened to the British isles
This is my favorite video of yours so far! Outstanding informative narration as always. I love how you read I am Rasputin
You've been killing it lately mr byf man
Considering what’s happened with Banshee-44 and now with Rasputin, I really like how each AI that’s directly inspired by Clovis’s design is created for the sole purpose of war but becomes so much more because of their respective interactions with the Bray sisters
Really enjoyed the last video. Thank you for uploading content like this
I really hope we get Rasputin grouping up with Glint and Eido for the next Festival of the Lost. That would make for some fun dialog.
The cutscene we got is even more interesting when put into context that the original cut ending to Halo 2 had the Prophet of Truth basically attempting to do the same thing.
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The fact that Byf did this vid before the cut-scene even dropped is the reason I watch this channel so much.
I love how Clovis thought Elsie was going to save him from Ana lololol
"help me _other_ granddaughter who hates my digital guts!"
Lol it was entertaining to watch.
I love how elsie just crosses her arms when he said it, too. XD
thank you byf for more unexpected work despite you being on break, have a good new year lore daddy
In my previous interactions with Rasputin in game I never once considered he had a soul. I actually felt... its hard to describe I guess that sadness, that hope and optimism as the evidence was laid out by you. I wish I had seen it sooner but its great that we don't have another weapon on our side but a friend.
Loved watching u run trials with Frabo and Zk.
So close to 1 mill subs, incredible, so well deserved.
Byf makes this game so much more fun to engage in. Thanks man.
I always love these disclaimers so much, just means you put tons of work into your videos before and after😎
It's been so refreshing listening to your videos again day after day week after week. Remember to take breaks and recharge, but know your videos are quiet enough for me. We don't want your heart too.
The most telling example of Clovis's and Ana's views on Rasputin is simply how they refer to him. To Clovis, Rasputin is referred to as an "it", an object or tool. But Ana always calls Rasputin "he" or "him". Not just a tool, but a person.
I like to imagine that Ana essentially gave Rasputin a souped-up version of the Voyager Interstellar Record. All of humanity's triumphs and cultural legacy on a few golden discs...
Having been PC-less during the first half of this week, avoiding spoilers was both incredibly hard, and absolutely worth it in spades.
The story this week was brilliant, and them finally giving Red a proper voice (and cleverly using Clovis' VA to do so, to boot).
Absolutely worth the wait.
Rare to see but always quite a delight to see a truly "Raised" AI. Another fun example I always think about is Bladewolf from Metal Gear Rising.
Ironic the AI, Rasputin has more "humanity" than his creator, the human Clovis who acts as cold as a machine...he even became one.
Clovis def on the track to disciple-hood but imagine if he was like Mr. House, being something like a benign dictator or god figure who values his control but allows prosperity to his people and aims to succeed where the Traveler fails.
A common thread throughout Bungie’s work since Marathon is the concept of the artificial mind growing beyond it boundaries as a tool, and becoming by all accounts a person with their own wants and needs. Rasputin in a sense is a culmination of that idea, of what happens _after_ an AI becomes aware of their own sentience, and what they do to protect that which is important to them. In this case as with others like DurAndul and Cortana, it is humanity, or more specifically the people with whom they most identify as family. Ana Bray was Rasputin’s family, and whoever she considers worth protecting he does as well.
Thank you Byf, this was awesome
Hearing Byf read poetry is beautiful. Thank you for making this video!
I always look forward to. Byf’s longer projects involving quality art and animation, as this empowers his already excellent narration that brings Destiny’s universe to life.
I love all the Rasputin stuff. Thanks MNIB
Another way to describe what Ana did for Rasputin could be that she took the sword that Clovis made, and instead forged a shield. Something primarily used in the defense of something, but can also should the need arise, be put on the offensive in the name of defense. Just so happens the best way of doing that was making him human.
You beat me to the Mass Effect quote but really thought that poetry was beautiful...man I hope nothing bad happens to Rasputin.
"Whiteout" always makes me bop my head when is starts playing....how about that cut scene tho...
I love the idea that Ana introduced Rasputin to all sorts of human culture, so there’s a chance he saw Terminator and thought “aw shoot, that doesn’t look good :(“ and chose not to be evil.
Also while Glint and Eido were all horribly understanding Halloween wrong I bet his engram was over in the corner just screaming at them in Russian.
For some reason that silhouette of Clovis Bray reminds me of Shou Tucker from FMAB.
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BFY withe the ASMR fadeout intro, -- tell me more about this cutscene man... ;)
Hey lore Daddy about the cut scene, I thought these was gonna be a big revelation for the end of the season, since I knew Clovis was up to no good but didn't think he was going to be dealt with so early let alone that Rasputin was returning mid season instead of the end of season, they actually blew my expectations away and im quite pleased about it.
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I'm really glad I waited to see the cutscene until it happened in game, instead of watching it when it was datamined and uploaded to UA-cam. It was so much better in context.
Honestly I think having a son in felwinter and knowing the pain of loss is what actually moved him in the direction of being on humanities side. Kind of like how humans are all about themselves until the lose something of high value and then they want to save others that pain. Its the same growth process pretty much.
Love the videos as always My name is Byf; just wanted to let you know (if you're not already aware) the volume of your intro is significantly higher / louder than the rest of your video. The outro volume is on par with the general video, so it seems to be just the intro. Anyways, take care!
Can we talk about how this man is on track for 1 Million subs by lightfall congratulations honestly.
Surprised he didn’t mention how the UK was missing in the cutscene
Our Guardian being the one to "reawken" him really goes to show that truly none of this would have been possible without us. In one of the first missions of D1 we scan that terminal in skywatch and the array opens up, Ghost mentions something about how it was connected to an old warmind or something like that. Shame good ol Rasputin doesn't remember that.
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So that poem made me cry. Thank you for this content, it is wonderful. And thank you bungie. Whoever wrote that is a wizard.
I always know when a Byf or Myelin video is coming out when Evaze drops one. Wow.
I often watch all three just to hear their own thoughts and opinions.
It seems to me that bits and pieces of Clovis' plan are present in Rasputin's programming, and it has had an effect on his actions in the past, mostly during the events of D1.
The idea of Rasputin treating the Traveler as a rival or enemy persisted. And with the fate of Felwinter, it cemented his hatred for the Traveler. I would say that those events were truly Rasputin's 'Skynet moment', where he was determined to eliminate the Traveler's influence, regardless of the cost. But the difference in that, was the regret he felt after finally giving Felwinter his final death and only then realizing all he truly lost.
And when the 'minions of the traveler' arrived to reactivate Rasputin to help defend the city, Rasputin again almost went full Skynet on Guardians in general. Perhaps to Rasputin, Guardians were like reanimated corpses, or not distinguishable from Ghosts.
I think Rasputin has a 2nd realization, similar to the Felwinter one, when Ana Bray showed up, resurrected by the Traveler, and trying to continue what she was doing before. And only THEN, did Rasputin finally decide that the programming remnants from Clovis were immoral and wrong, and that the Traveler spawn could be trusted.
A Traveler spawn that WAS Rasputin, and then a Traveler spawn that IS his teacher and friend. Good motivations to re-evaluate.
God damn, that identity lore entry is badass, I love the writing given to Rasputin.
This is amazing because it brings forward the astounding possibility of peace with the Vex. They are a mind similar to his. They just don't have the emotional intelligence that Rasputin has. But, maybe now there is a chance that one intelligence can talk to another and teach. It would be a beautiful thing to see Rasputin act like a father to the Vex. Especially given how the darkness seems to look upon them has nothing more than cannon fodder.
Not really cause the vex want their future and will do anything to get it
@@Kostyahellstorm_IronLord I don't believe that their future is hindered by joining us. In fact I believe it's one of the few chances they have for survival. Based on the Darkness' doctrine of "pursuing the final shape", it seems like a dangerous gamble for the vex to stay by the Witness' side. They are not paracausal and are at an extreme disadvantage because of that. Therefore they do not have good chances winning against the hive in a survival of the fittest. Their only real chance of survival is with the Bomb logic of the guardians. This invites them to co-exist or at least survive to a later point where they can to take over the universe again.
Just had a thought since we are going into light fall and the perfect shape I think it would be cool to see Rasputin "resurrect" felwinter's ghost with either siva or siva 2.0 from neomuna. Like the "ghost" could help summon the Valkyrie or the pdp from the seraph stations.
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Hey byf have you heard about the “CUTSCENE!!” 😂😂
Hey Byf, what about the cutscene? It's really good
Something this video just crystallized for me, a soul is not a thing that is had, but a state of being. Rasputin has not been given some Thing, but rather progressed to a point where it developed one
Thank You Lore Daddy for posting on your vacation. we uhhh will need a robot doggo video soon
wait holy shit is there lore for the exo dog
@@Ash_6614 if there's lore for the fish then their will be lore for the dog
I hope the doggo sticks around after the season. I don't want to stop initiating the Good Boy Protocol.
Hey byf
The cutscene tho
I loved that instance of poetry.
He's not evil he just uses the data sets he was technically legally given by his creators despite it being other people's public data but it's ok as long as he does things ethically..
I see what you did there
Gonna be making one of these about Savathun soon enough.
One thing that's really stood out to me this season is the imagery which go hard as fuck.
funny that you mentioned Mass Effect. when Rasputin started talking in English. that was the first vibe I got, took me back for a moment
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i feel like im the only one who always had complete faith in Rasputin as a protector of humanity. it honestly never occurred to me for even a second that Rasputin could have been an adversary, i always only ever saw him has a potential ally to be respected, never as a potential enemy to be thwarted.
I've had complete trust in Rasputin since D1 came out. Idk why everyone was trying to make him out to be the bad guy. I'm not surprised with any of this. He's always done what was best for humanity.
Probably didn't agree with his methods.
Hey byf.....what about the cuts cutscene tho?
Seriously tho great video.
Why Rasputin hasn't gone all skynet on us? because he seen the Terminator franchise.
For the people wondering about the cutscene thing
Byf made this video prior to the cutscene coming out
His previous video brings this up
I've always enjoyed Rasputin. I like the pyramid and hardline aesthetic of seraph tech. His lore is interesting as well: a cold and calculating AI that listens to opera. The more Rasputin content the better. Hell I might even get back into the game
so close to 1 million subs!
I'd say the cutscene made this video even more relevant. Particularly given that Red has downloaded Felwinter's experiences.
She gives him soul...........Byf that line hit so hard and was delivered so well!
That title gave me a chuckle
Also maybe you should have.... Properly redone this vid when you get back from your break.
Hey byf there was a cutscene :)
All jokes tho. Love the content as always
BYF GO HAVE YOUR HOLIDAY BRO WE CAN WAIT PLEASE 😭
I have just realised who Clovis reminds me of in part of this cutscene…. The image of the bald man with glasses there? Isn’t it similar to some dipictions of Hugo Strange?
It's nice to hear Vigil again
I'd love to see short films based on moments like Ana's research and work on Rasputin, and have it end with the collapse. Just 15 minutes of a cohesive short narrative
I think it was a balance. Clovis kept him shackled so he couldnt go berserk and kill humanity, Ana taught him WHY he shouldnt kill humanity. Clovis was as a brilliant as he was egotistical, we would never ever let Rasputin make him look bad or disobey him. Ana taught him how to make his own choices, and why he could be more than a tyrant, he could be worthy of being cared about, and why humanity is just as worthy of being cared about.