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Hey Pauly, it was good to meet you @ One Eyed Jack's a couple weeks ago during Sturgis. I talked you you about how I installed the Arlen Ness Monster Sucker on my 2017 FLHR with the aid of this video (awesome video!!). I have the problem with oil seeping from the breather bolts. It's very minimal, but it makes a mess on the seat, engine and saddle bags. Anyway, I spoke with someone from Arlen Ness and I was told that there was a problem with the first run of breather bolts for the 2017 M8s. They are just a tad too long so a seal isn't being made. He just emailed me and told me they are shipping me new bolts. I will try them and report back if they worked or not. If they fix the problem, I will share my Arlen Ness contact so others can get replacement bolts too. FYI - I bought mine off of Dennis Kirk so I can't speak for the ones J&P sell. I would hope since they had a booth in J&P's parking lot at Sturgis that J&P would have the non "defective" ones. Ben (from Minnesoooota)
Great to meet you as well. I'm glad they were able to get you sorted out. The one I installed out of our inventory made the trip to Sturgis and back without any leaks like you mentioned, so hopefully you are right and we have the good ones. See ya next year.
I just watched this, and noticed that the banjo bolts were replaced and you no longer have the vent holes going back into the breather....what will happen if the discharge of oil or if there is any discharge of oil...where does it go now.?
I read on your site: "Each filter is constructed from synthetic material that is water resistant, which in most cases eliminates the need for a rain sock." What does "most cases" mean? For heavy reains I still need the rain socks? What about riding in the dirt?
I would still use a sock in heavy rain or prolonged rain riding. You should not need one in the dirt, but you will want to service the filter afterwards.
Hi, Hey I have a 2000 Road King with the Magnelli Maretti FI , I already have a Screaming Eagle stage 1 with K&n Filter and ProPipe 2 into 1 exhaust, Am I wasting $$$$ changing the HD brand for a Arlen Ness big sucker kit ?
Hey there I haven’t install mines yet because I’m waiting to dyno it question is can I ride if I install it with out doing the Dino or tuner just asking
Question.. so on my 17 Street Glide M8, whoever installed the same intake put breather bolts with tubs running out for over flow. Currently, they keep leaking and falling off. Can I replace the bolts that are in there now? I don't see any overflow hoses coming from the one you just installed. Thanks
Can someone help me. I need replacement breather bolts for my monster sucker and i cant seem to find them anywhere online; all i can find is hardware kits for the big sucker. Do they use the same kit?
If you have stock pipes, no changes on engine, do you need to do tune with this air filter, or engine is going work just fine without tune?? Since you are not changing throttle body and valve.
I installed monster sucker on Indian Chieftain 111 with Mutazu performance mufflers. I did not tune it or reflash it. Engine works super smooth, I got way better mileage and I'm not sure for a better horse power, but anyway I don't want to increase that. Chieftain is cruiser and works on lower RPMs, it's not design for higher rev and racing. As you said you can do tune but on my experience is not necessary. Cheers!
I have a 2006 Street Glide with a 96 Big Bore Kit on it are the Breather tubes the same size on the cylinder heads for the 88. I bought a monster sucker intake and I wanted to know if the O-rings will still fit in the breather tubes
Tuning is suggested for this air cleaner. If you run a performance exhaust with the air cleaner, tuning is a necessity. I run this cleaner with Vance and Hines pipes, and the V&H FP3 tuner.
Now, I know the hole in front of the filter will provide more flow, but won't unfiltered particles go through the the hole without getting filtered. ?? Unless there's some sort of filtering element mid way in the elbow portion. ??
Ok, thats good to know, I'm glad you understood my meaning. I have a 2017 Low RiderS, can just the filter element be purchased or do you have to buy the whole intake unit ??
I have read a couple reviews and am looking to debunk what I have been reading. I read that sometimes neither a metric or standard wrench will work with the bolts that may come with the kit. Have you heard this from other customers?
I've installed my monster sucker myself and didn't have any trouble with it. It was just a pain in the *** to get the 2 breather bolts in the cylinderheads because you have to snug them at the same time with the backing plate and if you don't, it won't fit.
Yes, putting threadlocker on the bolts securing the backing plate to the manifold is very important. If one of those bolts comes loose and sucks into the intake its bad news.
The cone has a little play after install what I mean is it’s not tight tight after tightening down the hose clamp on the cone. Is that normal because I hear a slap type sound when I ride any suggestions or is that normal
@@kalebkocak2292 I did what I did was went to autozone bought black plastic tubing (heat resistant) took cut the tube down the middle and basically made a sleeve where metal to metal was touching haven't had a problem since
If I have a Arlen Ness brand cover over the filter, do I still need to use a sock? What about riding after a rain or a misty day, do I need to worry?I currently have a Stage 1 Big Sucker, any major technical problems I should run into when converting or will I need to finagle some things around?
If your'e running any filter element that is exposed to water you would benefit from a rain sock. That being said you should only need the sock in heavy rain.
See more tech tips and installs on Countersteer : www.jpcycles.com/countersteer?Weekend_Wrenching:_Arlen_Ness_Monster_Sucker_Air_Cleaner_Kit&ImgkBsdMZkM
Hey Pauly, it was good to meet you @ One Eyed Jack's a couple weeks ago during Sturgis. I talked you you about how I installed the Arlen Ness Monster Sucker on my 2017 FLHR with the aid of this video (awesome video!!).
I have the problem with oil seeping from the breather bolts. It's very minimal, but it makes a mess on the seat, engine and saddle bags. Anyway, I spoke with someone from Arlen Ness and I was told that there was a problem with the first run of breather bolts for the 2017 M8s. They are just a tad too long so a seal isn't being made. He just emailed me and told me they are shipping me new bolts. I will try them and report back if they worked or not. If they fix the problem, I will share my Arlen Ness contact so others can get replacement bolts too.
FYI - I bought mine off of Dennis Kirk so I can't speak for the ones J&P sell. I would hope since they had a booth in J&P's parking lot at Sturgis that J&P would have the non "defective" ones.
Ben (from Minnesoooota)
Great to meet you as well. I'm glad they were able to get you sorted out. The one I installed out of our inventory made the trip to Sturgis and back without any leaks like you mentioned, so hopefully you are right and we have the good ones. See ya next year.
I just watched this, and noticed that the banjo bolts were replaced and you no longer have the vent holes going back into the breather....what will happen if the discharge of oil or if there is any discharge of oil...where does it go now.?
And by the way awesome video mad the install very Explanatory
Does this provide more horsepower ?
I read on your site: "Each filter is constructed from synthetic material that is water resistant, which in most cases eliminates the need for a rain sock."
What does "most cases" mean? For heavy reains I still need the rain socks? What about riding in the dirt?
I would still use a sock in heavy rain or prolonged rain riding. You should not need one in the dirt, but you will want to service the filter afterwards.
Great video thanks for make me everything easy 👍🏻🤙🏻
Hi, Hey I have a 2000 Road King with the Magnelli Maretti FI , I already have a Screaming Eagle stage 1 with K&n Filter and ProPipe 2 into 1 exhaust, Am I wasting $$$$ changing the HD brand for a Arlen Ness big sucker kit ?
Is this the naked air cleaner? When it says naked does that mean it has no billet cover? There are two different cleaners, whats the diff?
Hey there I haven’t install mines yet because I’m waiting to dyno it question is can I ride if I install it with out doing the Dino or tuner just asking
Question.. so on my 17 Street Glide M8, whoever installed the same intake put breather bolts with tubs running out for over flow. Currently, they keep leaking and falling off. Can I replace the bolts that are in there now? I don't see any overflow hoses coming from the one you just installed. Thanks
Can someone help me. I need replacement breather bolts for my monster sucker and i cant seem to find them anywhere online; all i can find is hardware kits for the big sucker. Do they use the same kit?
Thanks great video
If you have stock pipes, no changes on engine, do you need to do tune with this air filter, or engine is going work just fine without tune?? Since you are not changing throttle body and valve.
We recommend a FI controller but it isn't "necessary."
@@jpcycles Thank you.
I installed monster sucker on Indian Chieftain 111 with Mutazu performance mufflers. I did not tune it or reflash it. Engine works super smooth, I got way better mileage and I'm not sure for a better horse power, but anyway I don't want to increase that. Chieftain is cruiser and works on lower RPMs, it's not design for higher rev and racing. As you said you can do tune but on my experience is not necessary. Cheers!
I have a 2006 Street Glide with a 96 Big Bore Kit on it are the Breather tubes the same size on the cylinder heads for the 88. I bought a monster sucker intake and I wanted to know if the O-rings will still fit in the breather tubes
Does anybody know which air cleaner pulls the most air? I replaced my screaming eagle 117 air cleaner with an Arlen Ness Inverted Sucker.
This one
Does this require any tuning, or is it simply a bolt on and go, situation?
Tuning is suggested for this air cleaner. If you run a performance exhaust with the air cleaner, tuning is a necessity. I run this cleaner with Vance and Hines pipes, and the V&H FP3 tuner.
Bruce Forsyth thank you.
Can you run the filter like this or do you need one of their ali covers?
You can run it like that no problem. The only time you would need a cover would be a "rain sock" in wet weather.
Now, I know the hole in front of the filter will provide more flow, but won't unfiltered particles go through the the hole without getting filtered. ?? Unless there's some sort of filtering element mid way in the elbow portion. ??
The filter is open on the end, but the hole isn't just a hole. There is filter material in a cone shape beneath the opening.
Ok, thats good to know, I'm glad you understood my meaning. I have a 2017 Low RiderS, can just the filter element be purchased or do you have to buy the whole intake unit ??
This comes as a kit, but there are elements available on our website.
I have read a couple reviews and am looking to debunk what I have been reading. I read that sometimes neither a metric or standard wrench will work with the bolts that may come with the kit. Have you heard this from other customers?
I've installed my monster sucker myself and didn't have any trouble with it. It was just a pain in the *** to get the 2 breather bolts in the cylinderheads because you have to snug them at the same time with the backing plate and if you don't, it won't fit.
Is that locktight 243 that you glued bolts??and is that necessary things?
Yes, putting threadlocker on the bolts securing the backing plate to the manifold is very important. If one of those bolts comes loose and sucks into the intake its bad news.
How do i take the wire holder off on a 2014 street glide. It is not as straightforward as on the 2017
Wire holder?
Is there any way you can run this Air filter on a 19’ 48 Special but install an External Breather system with it?
You couldn't do that with this specific air cleaner because of how the backing plate is built
The cone has a little play after install what I mean is it’s not tight tight after tightening down the hose clamp on the cone. Is that normal because I hear a slap type sound when I ride any suggestions or is that normal
I have this same problem is it still doing it or did you fix it ?
@@kalebkocak2292 I did what I did was went to autozone bought black plastic tubing (heat resistant) took cut the tube down the middle and basically made a sleeve where metal to metal was touching haven't had a problem since
Steve Ruby awesome I will try that thank you
@@steveruby523 Do you have a photo of how you installed the plastic tubing?
If I have a Arlen Ness brand cover over the filter, do I still need to use a sock? What about riding after a rain or a misty day, do I need to worry?I currently have a Stage 1 Big Sucker, any major technical problems I should run into when converting or will I need to finagle some things around?
If your'e running any filter element that is exposed to water you would benefit from a rain sock. That being said you should only need the sock in heavy rain.
Thanks for the info! Any input on switching from a stage 1 big sucker to a monster sucker?@@jpcycles
@@4RKITEKT Unless your making engine modifications you probably won't notice much of a performance increase.
How do you prevent the oil leaks from the filter?
Ace Dooley instead of hollow bolts they are regular and go into the ports no oil at all it's a none wet filter
After putting this on did you realize a decent bump up in performance such as torque or horsepower?
With a tuner you will, seat of the pants feeling I definitely noticed but the tuner is what really brings it out
how important is a rain sock? Can I keep a rain sock on all the time or will it cause damage to the bike?
It is very important in the rain. You can keep it on, but they look better without.
How do u clean the reusable air filter?
Warm soapy water, air dry (DO NOT USE COMPRESSED AIR) and re-oil www.jpcycles.com/product/401-264/k-n-filter-oil
J&P Cycles the Arlen ness site states they do not require oiling