When I started reading vedic literature, I was stunned at the ridiculous translations, that's when I decided to learn Sanskrit. English language can never describe any vedic literature because english language is not created for that.
The Hidden Truth is Brahman. Brahman is all there is. And one needs a physical Guru to realize Brahman or the Grace of Siva/sakti for self realization to happen by itself
@@adithyanaren519 Guru can initiate but still you have to put your effort. So, gurus are not compulsory especially in modern times since dissemination of knowledge is high. I mean, if you want to learn a mantra, you have to find a guru in ancient times. But now anybody can access 1000s of Sanskrit mantras on youtube. The same can be said about meditation techniques. Many people have attained expanded consciousness state or samadhi without initiation by a guru eg Ramana Maharishi, modern gurus like Sadhguru etc.
Aarjab Sengupta The power of Vedic mantras is in its sound not meaning. So, one does not need to understand its meaning. In fact, one does not even have to recite it to experience its vibratory effects in modern times. Hear a powerful Sanskit mantra like Mahamrityunajaya mantra on your headphones with intense focus. if properly done, you would experience the vibrations in Sanskrit from which the "creation" emanates called as SHABHTHA BRAHMAN
Tribal mindsed can't develop such a great and scientific language like Sanskrit.. there are so great things in Vedas that can shake you to the core. Such things can only be thought by great minds.
The problem with western thinker is that they believe their understanding is far superior than anyone else but when it's comes to indigenous scriptures better follow local well known philosophers and historian especially when it's comes to ancient India knowledge.
Rig veda is complex to understand, its not written by one person but generations....all translations in last 200 during British rule are superficial and literal... as we hear from the rishis and gurus Vedas have multiple meanings subtle, literal, physical and meta physical....its written in different Sanskrit used at that contemporary time but all is beloved to be consolidated by veda vyasa muni... Anyways my suggestion before you interpret English translated Vedas(as 80% of those English words are near equivalent to Sanskrit and not exact) , better you sit with some guru or attend lectures on upanishads....these are commentaries which will later give you more profound meaning of Vedas... Note: the dating is speculative and imperial ideology, so 3000 yrs back is incorrect....the Zoroastrian, hittians, Babylonian, Slavic beliefs are all derived from Vedic influences, so its before 3000 BC (at least 5000 yrs back)...before that it was only translated orally which is still practiced in all across india.. Vedas are ment for the all, great to see you interest to learn the greatest knowledge humans have produced...all the best...
Thanks for showing interest in Rig veda. But I’m sorry to say that your understanding is totally wrong and the translation is rubbish. Sanskrit is a very rich language and cannot be translated word by word into English as it doesn’t have enough vocabulary words to describe. I can cite an example - Yoga is known as meditation in English but actually it doesn’t say anything! Meditation has many forms or expressions in Sanskrit and each of them has a specific name. You should talk to a Vedic scholar who can explain you the meaning of hymns. However, this ancient country was the land of seekers and therefore they questioned instead of believing something what they didn’t know. And this hymn of creation talks about ‘singularity’ where there was no time no space. Water doesn’t mean water, space doesn’t mean space ...in Sanskrit “Shunya” means emptiness, which is a null set in mathematics and not zero. It says there was neither life nor death because the difference between life and death was not established. There was not even a sign of day or night because there was no light to distinguish day and night. The God has not created Sun or Moon on the seventh day yet...lol. In fact they have accepted that the cosmos is not created by God. The hymn says the Gods appeared after the creation. How brave the statement is! You can’t say this in any abrahamic religion like Judaism Christianity or Islam :-) You doubted on their knowledge how the earth looked like. Just for your information - Geography is called “Bhugol “ in Sanskrit which means “earth is round” (bhu = earth, gol = round). They knew this fact 3500 years ago!
to say that 3000 yr. ago. they couldn't imagine or comprehend certain things is not quite accurate cuz , they actually have envisioned these things and even things way Way beyond today's common thoughts and understanding
I have studied Sanskrit and in my opinion akasha-ganga meaning sky-river is basically a word for universe. And when they talk about cosmic water, they basically mean the space or space-time fabric depending how much you are into physics. Imagine how the night sky used to look like before industrialisation, stars flowing in a river!
🙏🕉️ Nasadiya Sukta Verses 1 and 2 Then even nothingness was not, nor existence, There was no air then, nor the heavens beyond it. What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping? Was there then cosmic water, in depths unfathomed? Then there was neither death nor immortality nor was there then the torch of night and day. The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining. There was that One then, and there was no other
In case anyone didnt notice.... The hymns of the RigVeda, are actually the prayers 🙏 that priest would recite while sitting around the 🔥 yagyam pit. They would pik up 🌿 herbs and spices and with each application into the 🔥 fire ( that is the Lord Agni in form)... They would recite the prayers as they droped the mix into the Agni fire. Its believed that the God Agni who is form of fire.... Is the fire itself...an as he eats the herbal offerings ( as fire consumes).... He actually is taking the offereings up in smoke to the Gods in the " spirit realm". And thats what all these verses are. Prayers that are given to the GodAgni into the fire sacrifice to be brought to the gods ...like a messenger. Hence Agni is the messenger of the Devata😉
Don't directly read vedas it beyond comprehension in current time and its Sanskrit it too complex. Only sages enlightened person could comprehend it. They have described and translated its Gyan khand (Philosphical) part in Upnishads also called Vedanta (end of vedas). Vedas consist of three parts 1. Karam kand (rituals) 2. Upasana kand (prayers) 3. Jyan kand (Philosophy) This 3rd part is described in detail in Upnishads.
In Vedic age fire was belived to be a medium between humans and God .. as fire creates a warm hole like structure so what you put inside fire its soul reaches a parallel realm .. in yajnas offerings were put on fire so that they may reach it .Modern Hindus still worship fire do yajnas and marriage in the presence of fire ..burn their dead bodies and many more .. Fire is sacred.
Many herbs when burnt produces smoke that works as antiseptic to the atmosphere 🌿 glad that you took interesent in these lost wisdom ..God bless you Saffiyeh all the best for future studies .. :-)
Let ne tell you one thing about Sanatan dharma , the ancestors were known to science in spritual way and there are many many proofs are there ,and rigveda is soul of sanatan dharma, ( hinduism). So thanks for your videos and to understand this .
Only arya samaj or sri auribindo has the unbiased version of vedas.All other are biased to destroy hinduism including the one you are reading I.e,penguin publication.The rig veda is the oldest even the biased person date it as 1500 bc.Actually the age in writing of rig veda is 10000 bc and before that it was passed on to it by oral transmission.
It is wise not to talk about subjects you don't fully understand - especially trying to comment on something as profound as the Rig Veda - only to conclude "it is inspiring" and yet comment on " our ancestors couldn't conceptualize gravity, and their mind doesn't get that ?? How do you think Newton formulated gravity ? You think the apple fell only once in the last 200 years ?". Superficial and improper dissection of any subject matter should not be encouraged. "These people 3000 years ago dint have telescopes !!! I am glad the veda makes you think big thoughts - I also hope you would appreciate the science and metaphysics or the Vedas better. thanks !
Beautiful reading, absolutely lovely. Just one small point; in the Vedic era their knowledge of astronomy was actually pretty good. They knew the world was round and that it orbited the Sun
Nope. Even Arybhatta and later Indian scholars were of the view that the universe is heliocentric. There is no evidence in the Vedas that they believed that the Earth orbited the Sun
Don't read the English translation of max Muller, Griffith or any other Europeans scholars, they present a wrong and distorted meaning of Vedic mantras which show paganism. Dayanand saraswati's translation is now available on internet in English please go for that, it's present a pure monotheistic and real meaning.
@@FlashVirus Not really polytheist, but polymorphic. एकं सत् विप्राः बहुधा वदन्ति। Rigveda, Mandala 1, Suktam 164, verse 46. Meaning: There is One (एकम्) Truth (सत्) which the wise (विप्राः) call (वदन्ति) by many (बहुधा) names. That One truth may mean God or if you prefer Ishwar, Parmeshwar etc. But what it is is not made very clear in the verse itself.
If you want a better and close to actual translation of that powerful spiritual poetry (in Triṣṭubh metre - Rigveda is the earliest poetry still in existence) you may read the below one. The power of Vedic Sanskrit is its close-to-basic nature of words, where each word stands for a functional and psychological concept. www.quora.com/How-would-you-interpret-the-7-stanzas-of-the-Nasadiya-Sukta-of-the-10th-Mandala-of-the-Rigveda/answer/Kiron-Krishnan-1
Though the poetic lines in the begining of the hymn were to make understand the vastness of the universe, the essence lies in the last lines. In summary every thought was challenged with 'negation' of that thought and they continued to dig more and more...Seekers they were....!
So ! thus came our universe into existence after a vaguely read and understood esoteric subject like the creation of universe. Reading and understanding the Vedic literature is not everyone's cup of tea. Nonetheless, thanks anyway for this attempt at reading out the loosely translated Nasadiya Suktas.
Vedas and other text were written in poetic form and in poems usually things are compared using metaphor, irony etc. these linguistic tools are used heavily in vedas and hence water is metaphoric in nature not literal.
Water mentioned in that is kshirsagar, ocean of cosmos. You read Nasadiya Sukta. Read Hiranyagarbha sukta. You will know that world is not only physical thing.
It is correct that before creation of the Universe there was neither existence nor non-existence. This was the state of Universe before Big Bang. The water referred here is not water in the literal sense but waves, like microwaves etc. The Universe was dark (without light) and further enveloped in darkness. If it was water then it would have been visible, which is not the case here. As stated in this hymn even the gods came afterwards, because strictly speaking gods are creation of human mind.
but there are certain thing missing by people, it is cosmic water, it mean vacuum with pakruti(real nature), it is just principle of brahman, it can not explain in language as knowledge came after creation started, it is not possible to explain what it is. explained as cosmic water(it is just metaphor to understand). it explaining itself, "even nothingness was not, nor existence," so you can not say it is cosmic water as well. you have to take some metaphor to explain the idea, so cosmic water is used later in hymn. Thank you for taking subject which is hard question of science even today. This is English translation of nasadiya sukta 129 hymn: ============================================ Then even nothingness was not, nor existence, There was no air then, nor the heavens beyond it. What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping? Was there then cosmic water, in depths unfathomed? Then there was neither death nor immortality nor was there then the torch of night and day. The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining. There was that One then, and there was no other. At first there was only darkness wrapped in darkness. All this was only unillumined cosmic water. That One which came to be, enclosed in nothing, arose at last, born of the power of heat. In the beginning desire descended on it - that was the primal seed, born of the mind. The sages who have searched their hearts with wisdom know that which is kin to that which is not. And they have stretched their cord across the void, and know what was above, and what below. Seminal powers made fertile mighty forces. Below was strength, and over it was impulse. But, after all, who knows, and who can say Whence it all came, and how creation happened? the devas (gods) themselves are later than creation, so who knows truly whence it has arisen? Whence all creation had its origin, the creator, whether she/he fashioned it or whether she/he did not, the creator, who surveys it all from highest heaven, she/he knows - or maybe even she/he does not know.[11]
It is from India not from Tibet--------He is BRAHMAN,,Infinite consciousness never changing one and only reality (ultimate god of the hindus)Universe created out of Breath of Brahman in his observation ...and with a primordial Sound that is OM/AUM.There was nothing like ancient Indians didn't know..Vedas written down in 5000 bc after a oral route of thousands of years.
but there are certain thing missing by people, it is cosmic water, it mean vacuum with pakruti(real nature), it is just principle of brahman, it can not explain in language as knowledge came after creation started, it is not possible to explain what it is. explained as cosmic water(it is just metaphor to understand). it explaining itself, "even nothingness was not, nor existence," so you can not say it is cosmic water as well. you have to take some metaphor to explain the idea, so cosmic water is used later in hymn. Thank you for taking subject which is hard question of science even today. This is English translation of nasadiya sukta 129 hymn: ============================================ Then even nothingness was not, nor existence, There was no air then, nor the heavens beyond it. What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping? Was there then cosmic water, in depths unfathomed? Then there was neither death nor immortality nor was there then the torch of night and day. The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining. There was that One then, and there was no other. At first there was only darkness wrapped in darkness. All this was only unillumined cosmic water. That One which came to be, enclosed in nothing, arose at last, born of the power of heat. In the beginning desire descended on it - that was the primal seed, born of the mind. The sages who have searched their hearts with wisdom know that which is kin to that which is not. And they have stretched their cord across the void, and know what was above, and what below. Seminal powers made fertile mighty forces. Below was strength, and over it was impulse. But, after all, who knows, and who can say Whence it all came, and how creation happened? the devas (gods) themselves are later than creation, so who knows truly whence it has arisen? Whence all creation had its origin, the creator, whether she/he fashioned it or whether she/he did not, the creator, who surveys it all from highest heaven, she/he knows - or maybe even she/he does not know.[11]
The Dharmic religions have so much wisdom. I love teachings from Buddhism, Sanatana Dharma, Sikhism and Jainism. As an Ex-Christian, I see the Abrahamic religions and the Dharmic philosophies as sitting at opposite ends of the religion pole.
but there are certain thing missing by people, it is cosmic water, it mean vacuum with pakruti(real nature), it is just principle of brahman, it can not explain in language as knowledge came after creation started, it is not possible to explain what it is. explained as cosmic water(it is just metaphor to understand). it explaining itself, "even nothingness was not, nor existence," so you can not say it is cosmic water as well. you have to take some metaphor to explain the idea, so cosmic water is used later in hymn. Thank you for taking subject which is hard question of science even today. This is English translation of nasadiya sukta 129 hymn: ============================================ Then even nothingness was not, nor existence, There was no air then, nor the heavens beyond it. What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping? Was there then cosmic water, in depths unfathomed? Then there was neither death nor immortality nor was there then the torch of night and day. The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining. There was that One then, and there was no other. At first there was only darkness wrapped in darkness. All this was only unillumined cosmic water. That One which came to be, enclosed in nothing, arose at last, born of the power of heat. In the beginning desire descended on it - that was the primal seed, born of the mind. The sages who have searched their hearts with wisdom know that which is kin to that which is not. And they have stretched their cord across the void, and know what was above, and what below. Seminal powers made fertile mighty forces. Below was strength, and over it was impulse. But, after all, who knows, and who can say Whence it all came, and how creation happened? the devas (gods) themselves are later than creation, so who knows truly whence it has arisen? Whence all creation had its origin, the creator, whether she/he fashioned it or whether she/he did not, the creator, who surveys it all from highest heaven, she/he knows - or maybe even she/he does not know.[11]
dark matter is not an actual thing it is just matter we don't know what it is but we know has to exists for the models we have about matter and energy in the universe just now
. So you mean to say.. 3000 years ( aliveness though current dating goes back at least 5000 years ) ago some people simply designed most modern language ( only natural languange which is unambiguous and has a perfect grammer with precise rules unlike any other lanuage on planet, rule based way to pronounce same so accuratly that it survived 3000 years, there are so many concepts of lossless and self correcting error mechanishnism built in the language) and then composed concepts which you feel were primal in nature. The didn't even understand the question which were tried to address and BTW same are still unsolved.. these vedas calculate time in nano seconds to billions years and earth's age calculated is around 4 billion years. LOL
I am going to apologize on behalf as usual of condescending c##### who "know" so much yet stay in the shadows till some good intentioned person comes along and they gang up on him. No constructive criticism, no expansion of ideas, just plain ridicule. No wonder these great books hardly had any updates since. The whole body of knowledge has been lost in the vast ignorance of ahankar.
English translation is wrong. Sanskrit is very rich language so english don't have exact translation. Air, water, aakash etc. doesn't mean these elements. Vedas means their properties like cohesiveness, gravity etc. Ancients knew all properties of Material, Space and time. You can somewhat corelate it to Quantum Physics, Multidimensional Theory where each dimension is Loka. There are 14 dimensions mentioned. 14th is abstract. 14th dimension is The Absolute, Static (Purusha). 13th dimension is Dynamism (Prakriti) of Absolute (Purusha/Static). Prakriti (Dynamism) leads to creation (Reality which can be conceived by living beings). Different dimensions can not be accessed by searching outward rather turning inwards toward true self. If you reached 14th dimension then all questions, answers, purpose ends. Then you are it (tatvam asi). You can go to other dimensions after death depending on your desire and fruit of karma. You can also access other dimensions being human but that requires strict yoga and other difficult practices. You can access entire knowledge from other dimensions. Remember higher dimensions can have knowledge of lower dimensions. Dimensions can't be accessed physically rather spiritually by controlling your Aatman. God says I will fullfill all your desires in different lifes until you are fed-up and seek for libration from cycles of birth and death which are cause by desires. It's an evolution after so many births you have become a human being, who should know meaning and purpose of being. Humans are at the top of evolution and only humans can break this cycle of birth and death by knowing their true self. Every creature on earth lives with limited concisiousness and intelligence which is required for their survival but humans have no upper limit, hence can attain to full concisiousness. When human die they will be born as human only as you already gone through all classes. Evolution goes in upward direction not otherwise. You have evolved through all species to become human.Take my words. Depending on fruit of Karma and Sanskara you may be born into rich or poor family, Your Sanskara decides your nature in next birth. In short journey will start from where you left in previous life. If you go through Quantum physics, String theory and higher level math modals probably you can relate to it. In math 14th dimension is unstable to sustain universe thats why in vedas it is absolute and 13th dimension which is dynamism seeds creation. Imagine in a close room you can't perceive outside world. when outside room you can't perceive whole house, when in house you can't perceive whole city, in city can't perceive nation, in nation can't perceive whole earth, on earth can't perceive galaxy, in galaxy cant perceive universe, in one universe cant perceive higher universe. if A in B in C then A can't see B and B can't see C, but C is contains B and A at different levels. Similarly B contains A but not C. I hope this simply dimension logic a bit. C has connection to each particle in B and A. C can directly see each particle or knowledge of B and C. Similarly B can to A, but A or B want see C they just have to identify connection by turning inwards and identify its true self. Don't directly read vedas it beyond comprehension in current time and its Sanskrit it too complex. Only sages enlightened person could comprehend it. They have described and translated its Gyan khand (Philosphical) part in Upnishads also called Vedanta (end of vedas). Vedas consist of three parts 1. Karam kand (rituals) 2. Upasana kand (prayers) 3. Jyan kand (Philosophy) This 3rd part is described in detail in Upnishads. Hyms are very carefully written based on pure mathematically calculated to produce certain sound frequencies. Which had direct connection to nature and living things even though could travel across dimensions, if done properly with rituals. Improper pronounciation is strictly prohibited. Even pronouncing OM or Aum has 3 different sound and each sound prounced by precise duration of second 1/nth. before and after AUM there is small silence. It is sound of universe. Remember sacrifice does not mean animal or human sacrifice because non-violence and vegetarian diet is base of Sanatana Dharma. Actually english translated wrong It called Yagya where fire is burned in a vessel or between bricks using mango tree wood (usually) because we prey fire and consider it holy. Sacrifice is some plans leafs, food, herbs having Medine quality to purify atmosphere. Also sacrifice of desires taking oath. This is called aahuti which in english was translated to Scarifice which should be actually holy offering of food and hurbs to holy fire. In our scriptures every recipe be it food, cloth, ceremony and merial used in ceremonies long with method and time is clearly defined. And as per vedas if we even touch meat we have to take bath.
Sad that our own Indians and specially Hindus are not understanding and realising our own spiritual heritage and culture... This is more bcos of our own media which is anti Hindu .....he is chanting the Nasadaseeya Upanishad from the Rigveda... ....but when a gora chamdi says something we believe.. Shame
Actually that's the beauty of it. If someone gives you all the answers where is your growth ? It tells you about different paths and also gives you different paths which is already tried . I asks you to follow your own path instead of following someone's path blindly, that's why it leaves space for evolution.
The translation is beyond butchery. If you want to understand the real meaning of any ancient text, you need to learn the language it was composed in. Thankfully ancient Sanskrit still survives to this day. For those who want to listen to the recitation of the Nasadya Sukta (Creation Hymn) in the original Sanskrit, go here: ua-cam.com/video/SYlP7DXtyQ8/v-deo.html
A good try but you need to read more Indian philosophy before you could come to conclusions like "it's build up on water". Ocean here represents cosmic ocean but you would know about it when you read more.
Wrost explanation of nasadiya sukta, he picked up one word 'water' from whole sukta. And linked everything to it. He said ancient people didn't have telescope so they could not imagine space. He doesn't even know what is space and he thinks he is qualified to understand and explain nasadiya sukta.
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When I started reading vedic literature, I was stunned at the ridiculous translations, that's when I decided to learn Sanskrit. English language can never describe any vedic literature because english language is not created for that.
Vedas cannot be grasped without a guru (teacher) , so you can read Vedas, but can not grasp the symbolism and hidden truth beyond the hymns .
The Hidden Truth is Brahman. Brahman is all there is. And one needs a physical Guru to realize Brahman or the Grace of Siva/sakti for self realization to happen by itself
@@adithyanaren519 Guru can initiate but still you have to put your effort. So, gurus are not compulsory especially in modern times since dissemination of knowledge is high. I mean, if you want to learn a mantra, you have to find a guru in ancient times. But now anybody can access 1000s of Sanskrit mantras on youtube. The same can be said about meditation techniques. Many people have attained expanded consciousness state or samadhi without initiation by a guru eg Ramana Maharishi, modern gurus like Sadhguru etc.
Aarjab Sengupta
The power of Vedic mantras is in its sound not meaning. So, one does not need to understand its meaning. In fact, one does not even have to recite it to experience its vibratory effects in modern times. Hear a powerful Sanskit mantra like Mahamrityunajaya mantra on your headphones with intense focus. if properly done, you would experience the vibrations in Sanskrit from which the "creation" emanates called as SHABHTHA BRAHMAN
Tribal mindsed can't develop such a great and scientific language like Sanskrit.. there are so great things in Vedas that can shake you to the core. Such things can only be thought by great minds.
That water is not our water. This is the cosmic water. Rg Veda is not easy to understand. It requires the highest of spiritual knowledge.
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The problem with western thinker is that they believe their understanding is far superior than anyone else but when it's comes to indigenous scriptures better follow local well known philosophers and historian especially when it's comes to ancient India knowledge.
Million subscribers for bollywood reaction channels but no one wants to educate themselves. Thanks andrew. Much appreciated. 🙏
So true 😤
Rig veda is complex to understand, its not written by one person but generations....all translations in last 200 during British rule are superficial and literal... as we hear from the rishis and gurus Vedas have multiple meanings subtle, literal, physical and meta physical....its written in different Sanskrit used at that contemporary time but all is beloved to be consolidated by veda vyasa muni...
Anyways my suggestion before you interpret English translated Vedas(as 80% of those English words are near equivalent to Sanskrit and not exact) , better you sit with some guru or attend lectures on upanishads....these are commentaries which will later give you more profound meaning of Vedas...
Note: the dating is speculative and imperial ideology, so 3000 yrs back is incorrect....the Zoroastrian, hittians, Babylonian, Slavic beliefs are all derived from Vedic influences, so its before 3000 BC (at least 5000 yrs back)...before that it was only translated orally which is still practiced in all across india..
Vedas are ment for the all, great to see you interest to learn the greatest knowledge humans have produced...all the best...
It wasn't written.
It was transferred orally
You cannot just read an English version of the Veda. It'll go up of your head 😂😂
vedas were never written, they were heard in the form of sounds by rishis.
Thanks for showing interest in Rig veda. But I’m sorry to say that your understanding is totally wrong and the translation is rubbish. Sanskrit is a very rich language and cannot be translated word by word into English as it doesn’t have enough vocabulary words to describe. I can cite an example - Yoga is known as meditation in English but actually it doesn’t say anything! Meditation has many forms or expressions in Sanskrit and each of them has a specific name. You should talk to a Vedic scholar who can explain you the meaning of hymns. However, this ancient country was the land of seekers and therefore they questioned instead of believing something what they didn’t know. And this hymn of creation talks about ‘singularity’ where there was no time no space. Water doesn’t mean water, space doesn’t mean space ...in Sanskrit “Shunya” means emptiness, which is a null set in mathematics and not zero. It says there was neither life nor death because the difference between life and death was not established. There was not even a sign of day or night because there was no light to distinguish day and night. The God has not created Sun or Moon on the seventh day yet...lol. In fact they have accepted that the cosmos is not created by God. The hymn says the Gods appeared after the creation. How brave the statement is! You can’t say this in any abrahamic religion like Judaism Christianity or Islam :-) You doubted on their knowledge how the earth looked like. Just for your information - Geography is called “Bhugol “ in Sanskrit which means “earth is round” (bhu = earth, gol = round). They knew this fact 3500 years ago!
Ur some points are correct
to say that 3000 yr. ago. they couldn't imagine or comprehend certain things is not quite accurate cuz , they actually have envisioned these things and even things way Way beyond today's common thoughts and understanding
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I am glad you are no longer associated with Nityananda. I have seen your comments in a lot of spiritual videos. God bless you sister
I have studied Sanskrit and in my opinion akasha-ganga meaning sky-river is basically a word for universe. And when they talk about cosmic water, they basically mean the space or space-time fabric depending how much you are into physics. Imagine how the night sky used to look like before industrialisation, stars flowing in a river!
🙏🕉️ Nasadiya Sukta Verses 1 and 2
Then even nothingness was not, nor existence,
There was no air then, nor the heavens beyond it.
What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping?
Was there then cosmic water, in depths unfathomed?
Then there was neither death nor immortality
nor was there then the torch of night and day.
The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining.
There was that One then, and there was no other
Aakash ganga means Milky way galaxy.
In case anyone didnt notice.... The hymns of the RigVeda, are actually the prayers 🙏 that priest would recite while sitting around the 🔥 yagyam pit.
They would pik up 🌿 herbs and spices and with each application into the 🔥 fire ( that is the Lord Agni in form)... They would recite the prayers as they droped the mix into the Agni fire.
Its believed that the God Agni who is form of fire.... Is the fire itself...an as he eats the herbal offerings ( as fire consumes).... He actually is taking the offereings up in smoke to the Gods in the " spirit realm". And thats what all these verses are. Prayers that are given to the GodAgni into the fire sacrifice to be brought to the gods ...like a messenger. Hence Agni is the messenger of the Devata😉
Don't directly read vedas it beyond comprehension in current time and its Sanskrit it too complex. Only sages enlightened person could comprehend it. They have described and translated its Gyan khand (Philosphical) part in Upnishads also called Vedanta (end of vedas).
Vedas consist of three parts
1. Karam kand (rituals)
2. Upasana kand (prayers)
3. Jyan kand (Philosophy)
This 3rd part is described in detail in Upnishads.
In Vedic age fire was belived to be a medium between humans and God .. as fire creates a warm hole like structure so what you put inside fire its soul reaches a parallel realm .. in yajnas offerings were put on fire so that they may reach it .Modern Hindus still worship fire do yajnas and marriage in the presence of fire ..burn their dead bodies and many more .. Fire is sacred.
Many herbs when burnt produces smoke that works as antiseptic to the atmosphere 🌿 glad that you took interesent in these lost wisdom ..God bless you Saffiyeh all the best for future studies .. :-)
That which gives birth to fire is Agni..
Fire is anti gravity too .. Fire is the only purest element on earth.
Let ne tell you one thing about Sanatan dharma , the ancestors were known to science in spritual way and there are many many proofs are there ,and rigveda is soul of sanatan dharma, ( hinduism). So thanks for your videos and to understand this .
You're not even scratching the surface of it by that translation you're holding in your hands.
Keep up with videos!
Wah 👌❤
Only arya samaj or sri auribindo has the unbiased version of vedas.All other are biased to destroy hinduism including the one
you are reading I.e,penguin publication.The rig veda is the oldest even the biased person date it as 1500 bc.Actually the age
in writing of rig veda is 10000 bc and before that it was passed on to it by oral transmission.
Nope. There's no evidence of the Rg Veda being older than 1500 BCE. You are free to provide the source for your information though
@@AmanKumar-de1kc you can challenge Srikant taligiri works on vedas.
Aum is infinity
want to more videos from you about the knowledge of vedas...
You need a guru to understand Vedas....it can't be understood that easily
No dude NOT the entire world had tribal living 3000 years ago! The Mahabharata itself happened more than 5000 years ago lol
It is wise not to talk about subjects you don't fully understand - especially trying to comment on something as profound as the Rig Veda - only to conclude "it is inspiring" and yet comment on " our ancestors couldn't conceptualize gravity, and their mind doesn't get that ?? How do you think Newton formulated gravity ? You think the apple fell only once in the last 200 years ?". Superficial and improper dissection of any subject matter should not be encouraged. "These people 3000 years ago dint have telescopes !!! I am glad the veda makes you think big thoughts - I also hope you would appreciate the science and metaphysics or the Vedas better. thanks !
Beautiful reading, absolutely lovely. Just one small point; in the Vedic era their knowledge of astronomy was actually pretty good. They knew the world was round and that it orbited the Sun
The Vedas were there way before the Vedic era
Well Rishis knew much more than this elememtary things.
Nope. Even Arybhatta and later Indian scholars were of the view that the universe is heliocentric. There is no evidence in the Vedas that they believed that the Earth orbited the Sun
@@AmanKumar-de1kc Their were multiple models existing at the same time.
@@tusharnagpal266 Okay let's have the proof then
Don't read the English translation of max Muller, Griffith or any other Europeans scholars, they present a wrong and distorted meaning of Vedic mantras which show paganism. Dayanand saraswati's translation is now available on internet in English please go for that, it's present a pure monotheistic and real meaning.
Fuck off. HInduism is a polytheistic religion & there's nothing wrong with polytheism. Go back to your gay Advaita Vedanta circles, dravid.
@@FlashVirus Not really polytheist, but polymorphic.
एकं सत् विप्राः बहुधा वदन्ति।
Rigveda, Mandala 1, Suktam 164, verse 46.
Meaning: There is One (एकम्) Truth (सत्) which the wise (विप्राः) call (वदन्ति) by many (बहुधा) names.
That One truth may mean God or if you prefer Ishwar, Parmeshwar etc. But what it is is not made very clear in the verse itself.
Paganism isn't bad
@@anirudh177 whatever is against the words of Almighty God is false and must be rejected.
@@AbhishekTiwari1111 You sound like a fanatic, and how is Paganism bad?
God is Unseen
Water is not accurate translation, in sanskrit it means like cosmic space
You need to write description aswell.
Vedas can not be translated in english ,it can be understand only by many english word
If anyone want read Regveda in English, they should try Prof Bibek Debroy's translation....
It does not talk about water as in water bodies, but cosmic water - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ocean
If you want a better and close to actual translation of that powerful spiritual poetry (in Triṣṭubh metre - Rigveda is the earliest poetry still in existence) you may read the below one. The power of Vedic Sanskrit is its close-to-basic nature of words, where each word stands for a functional and psychological concept.
www.quora.com/How-would-you-interpret-the-7-stanzas-of-the-Nasadiya-Sukta-of-the-10th-Mandala-of-the-Rigveda/answer/Kiron-Krishnan-1
The Hymn is talking about Space and Sky, very much distinguishing the two. And yet you say that they could not imagine Space. Hahahaha.
Though the poetic lines in the begining of the hymn were to make understand the vastness of the universe, the essence lies in the last lines. In summary every thought was challenged with 'negation' of that thought and they continued to dig more and more...Seekers they were....!
So ! thus came our universe into existence after a vaguely read and understood esoteric subject like the creation of universe. Reading and understanding the Vedic literature is not everyone's cup of tea. Nonetheless, thanks anyway for this attempt at reading out the loosely translated Nasadiya Suktas.
Vedas and other text were written in poetic form and in poems usually things are compared using metaphor, irony etc. these linguistic tools are used heavily in vedas and hence water is metaphoric in nature not literal.
Tribal?
The "Water" reffered here is not water, its the cosmic water or the space. without subtle vision these inner meanings of the hyms cannot be understood
Water mentioned in that is kshirsagar, ocean of cosmos. You read Nasadiya Sukta. Read Hiranyagarbha sukta. You will know that world is not only physical thing.
It is correct that before creation of the Universe there was neither existence nor non-existence. This was the state of Universe before Big Bang. The water referred here is not water in the literal sense but waves, like microwaves etc. The Universe was dark (without light) and further enveloped in darkness. If it was water then it would have been visible, which is not the case here. As stated in this hymn even the gods came afterwards, because strictly speaking gods are creation of human mind.
Good explanation ❤
but there are certain thing missing by people, it is cosmic water, it mean vacuum with pakruti(real nature), it is just principle of brahman, it can not explain in language as knowledge came after creation started, it is not possible to explain what it is. explained as cosmic water(it is just metaphor to understand). it explaining itself, "even nothingness was not, nor existence," so you can not say it is cosmic water as well. you have to take some metaphor to explain the idea, so cosmic water is used later in hymn. Thank you for taking subject which is hard question of science even today.
This is English translation of nasadiya sukta 129 hymn:
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Then even nothingness was not, nor existence,
There was no air then, nor the heavens beyond it.
What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping?
Was there then cosmic water, in depths unfathomed?
Then there was neither death nor immortality
nor was there then the torch of night and day.
The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining.
There was that One then, and there was no other.
At first there was only darkness wrapped in darkness.
All this was only unillumined cosmic water.
That One which came to be, enclosed in nothing,
arose at last, born of the power of heat.
In the beginning desire descended on it -
that was the primal seed, born of the mind.
The sages who have searched their hearts with wisdom
know that which is kin to that which is not.
And they have stretched their cord across the void,
and know what was above, and what below.
Seminal powers made fertile mighty forces.
Below was strength, and over it was impulse.
But, after all, who knows, and who can say
Whence it all came, and how creation happened?
the devas (gods) themselves are later than creation,
so who knows truly whence it has arisen?
Whence all creation had its origin,
the creator, whether she/he fashioned it or whether she/he did not,
the creator, who surveys it all from highest heaven,
she/he knows - or maybe even she/he does not know.[11]
It is from India not from Tibet--------He is BRAHMAN,,Infinite consciousness never changing one and only reality (ultimate god of the hindus)Universe created out of Breath of Brahman in his observation ...and with a primordial Sound that is OM/AUM.There was nothing like ancient Indians didn't know..Vedas written down in 5000 bc after a oral route of thousands of years.
shriram hegde not from india
india and republic of india are totally different.
the republic of india doesnt eeven have bulk of the vedic land where vedas were written.
but there are certain thing missing by people, it is cosmic water, it mean vacuum with pakruti(real nature), it is just principle of brahman, it can not explain in language as knowledge came after creation started, it is not possible to explain what it is. explained as cosmic water(it is just metaphor to understand). it explaining itself, "even nothingness was not, nor existence," so you can not say it is cosmic water as well. you have to take some metaphor to explain the idea, so cosmic water is used later in hymn. Thank you for taking subject which is hard question of science even today.
This is English translation of nasadiya sukta 129 hymn:
============================================
Then even nothingness was not, nor existence,
There was no air then, nor the heavens beyond it.
What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping?
Was there then cosmic water, in depths unfathomed?
Then there was neither death nor immortality
nor was there then the torch of night and day.
The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining.
There was that One then, and there was no other.
At first there was only darkness wrapped in darkness.
All this was only unillumined cosmic water.
That One which came to be, enclosed in nothing,
arose at last, born of the power of heat.
In the beginning desire descended on it -
that was the primal seed, born of the mind.
The sages who have searched their hearts with wisdom
know that which is kin to that which is not.
And they have stretched their cord across the void,
and know what was above, and what below.
Seminal powers made fertile mighty forces.
Below was strength, and over it was impulse.
But, after all, who knows, and who can say
Whence it all came, and how creation happened?
the devas (gods) themselves are later than creation,
so who knows truly whence it has arisen?
Whence all creation had its origin,
the creator, whether she/he fashioned it or whether she/he did not,
the creator, who surveys it all from highest heaven,
she/he knows - or maybe even she/he does not know.[11]
U completely missed on the key message
The Dharmic religions have so much wisdom. I love teachings from Buddhism, Sanatana Dharma, Sikhism and Jainism. As an Ex-Christian, I see the Abrahamic religions and the Dharmic philosophies as sitting at opposite ends of the religion pole.
but there are certain thing missing by people, it is cosmic water, it mean vacuum with pakruti(real nature), it is just principle of brahman, it can not explain in language as knowledge came after creation started, it is not possible to explain what it is. explained as cosmic water(it is just metaphor to understand). it explaining itself, "even nothingness was not, nor existence," so you can not say it is cosmic water as well. you have to take some metaphor to explain the idea, so cosmic water is used later in hymn. Thank you for taking subject which is hard question of science even today.
This is English translation of nasadiya sukta 129 hymn:
============================================
Then even nothingness was not, nor existence,
There was no air then, nor the heavens beyond it.
What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping?
Was there then cosmic water, in depths unfathomed?
Then there was neither death nor immortality
nor was there then the torch of night and day.
The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining.
There was that One then, and there was no other.
At first there was only darkness wrapped in darkness.
All this was only unillumined cosmic water.
That One which came to be, enclosed in nothing,
arose at last, born of the power of heat.
In the beginning desire descended on it -
that was the primal seed, born of the mind.
The sages who have searched their hearts with wisdom
know that which is kin to that which is not.
And they have stretched their cord across the void,
and know what was above, and what below.
Seminal powers made fertile mighty forces.
Below was strength, and over it was impulse.
But, after all, who knows, and who can say
Whence it all came, and how creation happened?
the devas (gods) themselves are later than creation,
so who knows truly whence it has arisen?
Whence all creation had its origin,
the creator, whether she/he fashioned it or whether she/he did not,
the creator, who surveys it all from highest heaven,
she/he knows - or maybe even she/he does not know.[11]
At first earth was a boring place...
dark matter is not an actual thing it is just matter we don't know what it is but we know has to exists for the models we have about matter and energy in the universe just now
Water could mean waves of probabilities.
. So you mean to say.. 3000 years ( aliveness though current dating goes back at least 5000 years ) ago some people simply designed most modern language ( only natural languange which is unambiguous and has a perfect grammer with precise rules unlike any other lanuage on planet, rule based way to pronounce same so accuratly that it survived 3000 years, there are so many concepts of lossless and self correcting error mechanishnism built in the language) and then composed concepts which you feel were primal in nature. The didn't even understand the question which were tried to address and BTW same are still unsolved.. these vedas calculate time in nano seconds to billions years and earth's age calculated is around 4 billion years. LOL
Its cosmic water
I am going to apologize on behalf as usual of condescending c##### who "know" so much yet stay in the shadows till some good intentioned person comes along and they gang up on him. No constructive criticism, no expansion of ideas, just plain ridicule. No wonder these great books hardly had any updates since. The whole body of knowledge has been lost in the vast ignorance of ahankar.
Oh Boy, I've got like 2 followers? whatever.
English translation is wrong. Sanskrit is very rich language so english don't have exact translation. Air, water, aakash etc. doesn't mean these elements. Vedas means their properties like cohesiveness, gravity etc. Ancients knew all properties of Material, Space and time. You can somewhat corelate it to Quantum Physics, Multidimensional Theory where each dimension is Loka. There are 14 dimensions mentioned. 14th is abstract. 14th dimension is The Absolute, Static (Purusha). 13th dimension is Dynamism (Prakriti) of Absolute (Purusha/Static). Prakriti (Dynamism) leads to creation (Reality which can be conceived by living beings).
Different dimensions can not be accessed by searching outward rather turning inwards toward true self. If you reached 14th dimension then all questions, answers, purpose ends. Then you are it (tatvam asi). You can go to other dimensions after death depending on your desire and fruit of karma. You can also access other dimensions being human but that requires strict yoga and other difficult practices. You can access entire knowledge from other dimensions. Remember higher dimensions can have knowledge of lower dimensions. Dimensions can't be accessed physically rather spiritually by controlling your Aatman.
God says I will fullfill all your desires in different lifes until you are fed-up and seek for libration from cycles of birth and death which are cause by desires.
It's an evolution after so many births you have become a human being, who should know meaning and purpose of being. Humans are at the top of evolution and only humans can break this cycle of birth and death by knowing their true self. Every creature on earth lives with limited concisiousness and intelligence which is required for their survival but humans have no upper limit, hence can attain to full concisiousness.
When human die they will be born as human only as you already gone through all classes. Evolution goes in upward direction not otherwise. You have evolved through all species to become human.Take my words. Depending on fruit of Karma and Sanskara you may be born into rich or poor family, Your Sanskara decides your nature in next birth. In short journey will start from where you left in previous life.
If you go through Quantum physics, String theory and higher level math modals probably you can relate to it.
In math 14th dimension is unstable to sustain universe thats why in vedas it is absolute and 13th dimension which is dynamism seeds creation.
Imagine in a close room you can't perceive outside world. when outside room you can't perceive whole house, when in house you can't perceive whole city, in city can't perceive nation, in nation can't perceive whole earth, on earth can't perceive galaxy, in galaxy cant perceive universe, in one universe cant perceive higher universe.
if A in B in C then A can't see B and B can't see C, but C is contains B and A at different levels. Similarly B contains A but not C. I hope this simply dimension logic a bit. C has connection to each particle in B and A. C can directly see each particle or knowledge of B and C. Similarly B can to A, but A or B want see C they just have to identify connection by turning inwards and identify its true self.
Don't directly read vedas it beyond comprehension in current time and its Sanskrit it too complex. Only sages enlightened person could comprehend it. They have described and translated its Gyan khand (Philosphical) part in Upnishads also called Vedanta (end of vedas).
Vedas consist of three parts
1. Karam kand (rituals)
2. Upasana kand (prayers)
3. Jyan kand (Philosophy)
This 3rd part is described in detail in Upnishads.
Hyms are very carefully written based on pure mathematically calculated to produce certain sound frequencies. Which had direct connection to nature and living things even though could travel across dimensions, if done properly with rituals. Improper pronounciation is strictly prohibited. Even pronouncing OM or Aum has 3 different sound and each sound prounced by precise duration of second 1/nth. before and after AUM there is small silence. It is sound of universe.
Remember sacrifice does not mean animal or human sacrifice because non-violence and vegetarian diet is base of Sanatana Dharma. Actually english translated wrong It called Yagya where fire is burned in a vessel or between bricks using mango tree wood (usually) because we prey fire and consider it holy. Sacrifice is some plans leafs, food, herbs having Medine quality to purify atmosphere. Also sacrifice of desires taking oath. This is called aahuti which in english was translated to Scarifice which should be actually holy offering of food and hurbs to holy fire. In our scriptures every recipe be it food, cloth, ceremony and merial used in ceremonies long with method and time is clearly defined. And as per vedas if we even touch meat we have to take bath.
Sad that our own Indians and specially Hindus are not understanding and realising our own spiritual heritage and culture... This is more bcos of our own media which is anti Hindu .....he is chanting the Nasadaseeya Upanishad from the Rigveda...
....but when a gora chamdi says something we believe.. Shame
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Hinduism leads you to only Questions it never gives you Answer!!! So does its offshoots like Jainism,Buddhism, Sikhism etc.
Actually that's the beauty of it. If someone gives you all the answers where is your growth ?
It tells you about different paths and also gives you different paths which is already tried . I asks you to follow your own path instead of following someone's path blindly, that's why it leaves space for evolution.
Answer is you
Hinduism leads to supreme truth
You need to understand Sanskrit. Translation is not accurate.. symbolism in Vedas needs deeper thinking and research..
The translation is beyond butchery. If you want to understand the real meaning of any ancient text, you need to learn the language it was composed in. Thankfully ancient Sanskrit still survives to this day. For those who want to listen to the recitation of the Nasadya Sukta (Creation Hymn) in the original Sanskrit, go here: ua-cam.com/video/SYlP7DXtyQ8/v-deo.html
A good try but you need to read more Indian philosophy before you could come to conclusions like "it's build up on water". Ocean here represents cosmic ocean but you would know about it when you read more.
Wrost explanation of nasadiya sukta, he picked up one word 'water' from whole sukta. And linked everything to it.
He said ancient people didn't have telescope so they could not imagine space. He doesn't even know what is space and he thinks he is qualified to understand and explain nasadiya sukta.
Translated vedas are meaning less
Better read purans or gitas
thats not reading bro
I read the translation by Griffiths and is very very bad. It is literal with no context.
Don't chant the Vedam without yagyopavit!!!!
Boy -Your FIRST Attempt is Not a Good Attempt -You do Not even how to Pronounce नासदीय सूक्तम्"= Naasadhiya Suktham -Rig Vedam- 10-08-129 properly
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My dear Young Man- Your First Attempt is a BAD Attempt
You Do not even Know as to how to pronounce => नासदीय सूक्तम्=> Naasdhiya Suktham properly --नासदीय सूक्तम् is part of Rig Vedam -10-08-129
Dear Young Man -please Understand HINDU VEDAM can NOT be Read from any Medium--Hindu Vedam can Not be Written on any Medium --Hindu vedam can not be TRANSLATED in any World Language from Vedic Language --Vedic Language consists of LYRICS + INTONATIONS + PROSODY ---LYRICS (BODY) has only 10% Importance and EFFECT --Intonations and Prosody (LIFE) has 90% Importance and Effect --Translating Lyrics ALONE is Some thing a Person saying => " Today I Transacted a Business with a DEAD BODY
To Understand What I say Please Watch This Video Fully =>
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You tube => VEDA GHANA SWASTHI By Vajapayee
After Fully watching this this Video --Please Give your talks On Rig Vedam -Yajur Vedam -Saama Vedam --Atharva vedam --Please DO NOT INSULT the Third Largest Religion of the World -Please
absolutely ridiculous translation and absolutely naive interpretation of even that ridiculous translation...