Can't even begin to thank you enough for these vids brother. My wallet definitely thanks you. I found that little rectangle piece on the bench after reassembly of 4 injectors. I think you're the only guy on youtube that showed that piece. You're time doing this is greatly appreciated.
Love the videos bro! Spoke in terms anyone could understand and you explained things at a good pace. Didn't over-explain or underexplain. I didn't feel like you needed to hurry up. Great pace. Thank you for this video.
Hey Chris. Thanks for the vid on rebuilding these injectors. I'm doing a head gasket job right now on my 6.0 and one of the injectors was stuck in the head. Long story short , I took the 2 t15 screws out to remove the electronics out of the way so that I could pry up on the injector with a couple of pry bars and the the injector popped out along with the big plunger and spring. I referred to this video to make sure I didn't lose any parts and put it back together. I was gonna buy a new injector until I saw your videos and figured out that I still had all the parts. I put it back together and it's going back into the truck, Eventually, I'll probably have to rebuild the injectors but for now, they're working fine.. Thanks... I just Subbed to your channel.
Marcel LeMay thank you. I’m going to put a new quick video about torquing the spool valve bolt. I’ve had some come loose. If I remember correctly. It .4 nm.
@@showmerepair how much does it coat approx to in parts alone to rebuild injectors? Can you get everything from alliant ? Does the electric side ever have failures?
Andrew Bartleman www.bitterrootdiesel.com. Yes the electrical side goes bad some times. If the electrical side is bad the pcm will set a circuit code for that specific injector. Before replacing the injector or electrical part of the injector due to the code you should check resistance of the coils.
That little raised area on the nozzle needle isn’t machined on there from the factory. It is wear but doesn’t really hurt anything. I actually think is is erosion from the high pressure and high frequency from the injectors firing. I have built many non 6.0 injectors and that wear is common for all injectors with this style of nozzle. Great video.
Love your videos Chris. If you're doing a lot of injectors, a good investment would be an inexpensive ultrasonic cleaner (they start at $35 on Amazon). We use several in our fuel injection shop and they do a much better job of cleaning stuff than just dipping in carb cleaner or using aerosols/rags. Plus they leave your hands free to do other stuff while they work.
great video!!!... Thank you sooo much for taking the time to make it and share it!!!... One question, don,t know if I missed it but what do you torque it to when putting back together the housing? TIA... never mind, got ahead of myself, just heard you say 55 ft/lbs
Diesel fuel flows through the cylinder head to feed each injector. The white and black o-rings on the body of the injector seal the fuel in. If the black seal is damaged at all fuel can leak out in to the valve train area of the cylinder head. You can also have an injector that has failed internally and is leaking fuel out the body. A good way to check for either of these is to put dye in the diesel fuel. Remove the oil rails from the head. Run the electric fuel pump to build fuel pressure. Use a black light to inspect around the injectors for leaks.
Hey awesome video man im about to order up a kit and get it done. Question i have for you is, on these injectors is it most of the time just a question of cleaning them and changing the orings? Or do you see some of the components damaged or scratched to the point of needing a replacement? I ask because i hear that sometimes if you loose fuel pressure below 42psi you damage the injector, im not sure how it would become damaged from that.
Make sure the spool valve moves freely. If I have one that feels like it’s not moving freely through its bore. I’ll gently sand it with 2000 grit sand paper. Doesn’t always fix it but some times does. The part that can be damaged due to low fuel pressure is the plunger under the large spring. I’ll sand the edges of the plunger lightly with 2000 sand paper. Other then that just inspect everything.
Thanks. Definitely slacking lately since where I’m at the temps are around 0 and my old house is having plumbing issues. But I’m planning on getting another video engine rebuild video out.
@@showmerepair yeah I feel you working in the cold sucks,I think your content is much different than any other channel,has a ton more info and educational purpose,I just like your rebuilds nothing specific.
@@GageGonzalez-k3b 30 is the percent of flow over stock nozzle fuel flow. Many places sell larger nozzles. 175 is the internal holding volume of the intensifier pistons chamber. If I remember stock is 155cc.
Can you tell me, are there gasket/seal kits available as a set for everything needed to do a complete injector set replacement? I want to change all eight injectors
Yes. You can get a kit to service all 8 injectors from Bitter Root Diesel. I’ve always bought kits from them since they come with new springs. bitterrootdiesel.com/collections/6-0-powerstroke/products/2003-2010-deluxe-6-0-powerstroke-injector-rebuild-kit
Oh. Your asking is there any other gaskets or parts needed to service the injectors? The valve cover gaskets are a reusable gasket. For a late build 6.0 you may check the o-rings on the stand pipe and d-plugs.
Hey man good stuff, but please don't sand down the plunger of the intensifier body like you did early in this video. The only thing preventing diesel fuel from diluting your oil is the clearance between the plunger and body. The clearance is less than 1/50th the width of a human hair. Double the clearance increases the dilution exponentially. This is an engine killer over time even though the injector will work just fine.
@@showmerepair you are welcome. While you can rebuild these injectors, and it might be cost effective for someone on a budget and time, it doesn't replace a proper reman. The machined components do wear, particularly the spool in the control valve. They need remachining to very tight tolerances to restore lost horsepower and torque. I've seen upto 40-50 hp recovery on a stock engine by replacing worn out injectors.
Thanks for the great instructional video. Have any of the injectors you’ve rebuilt needed new nozzles due to age or are they all simply covered in carbon and needing a soak in solvent?
Jeremy O I have heard of nozzles cracking but have not seen them personally. I did rebuild an injector the other day the was misfiring under load at times. It was better after I rebuilt it but still showed on my IDS power balance that it was still weak when driving. The internals of the injector looked great. I replaced that injector with a Ford reman. I suspect it was a nozzles since both times I removed that injector it had wet fuel hanging off the nozzles when pulled from engine. Though the fuel is supplied through the head and when removing the injector it could have ran down the body of the injector. I just don’t remember seeing it on the other injectors.
@@showmerepair Perfect, Always invaluable to get great first hand info from someone who’s got the knowledge/experience and willing to share. So thank you for the information! Good luck with the bench tester , would be cool to see that when completed, Subscribed.
If your interested. Dynamite Diesel Performance can make you 10 hole injector nozzles. Go look into what they’ve found in testing 10 hole nozzles on their Cummins. Very cool what they are learning and sharing.
@@efrainhernandez8555 The internal parts are very hard to find. I only know a couple places that sell internal parts. Accurate diesel and Bitter Root Diesel
@@showmerepair Thank you very much for responding, very satisfied with your videos, believe me, I was able to educate myself much better, much success from me, Sir,
I have a very low km 2003 6.0 that I have owned since new. My fuel economy is dropping and I notice it smokes white smoke at idle now and getting more black soot in the tailpipe. The software is up to date in the pcm and idm and the voltage is good. Is there something in the injector that can be causing this? It runs great otherwise than the above issues. It has about 50000kms on the motor.
smoke skull it’s a possibility you could have 1 or more injectors causing an issue. Maybe the small spring that holds the needle seated. Any codes in the pcm? You say you get white smoke on start up?
smoke skull I read your comment again. White smoke at idle. Are you noticing any drivability corks. Like slow to build boost at times? Stumbles when at cruise? Hesitated on acceleration? You say 50000km on the motor. Is this a rebuilt engine?
great job Chris! Question, do the injectors last? Obviously, you have done this before, great work. Are you confident enough to warranty them? I have never tried this and have been working on these 6 os since they came out. I wanted to but heard they dont last specially here in cold Boston thanks bro
The only thing that is keeping me from offering this to customers is running them on a flow bench. I’ve done this for myself and friends. Then installed them in the truck to make sure everything is working properly. I would not want to rebuild an injector and send it to someone to install themself with out running on a flow bench. Running on a flow bench would at least let me know the injector was operating correctly when I sent it out.
@@showmerepair Sounds good bro. so they have lasted. I have one I may try. Has rough Idle when first starting on a cold morning.. Electrically passes with IDS and has good current flow through the coils and is a friends truck. I think 1000 bucks sounds about right;) Thanks bro
Sir Chris, Awesome Video, Based on your response to Andrew Bartleman about resistance in a filing coil, what should the ohms be on a good coil? Thanks in advance. If the women don't find you handsome they should at least find you handy.
Do you know if there's any way to decode the numbers on an injector body/nozzle? I pulled some used injectors to rebuild but wanted to know if there original injectors and nozzles first.
@@showmerepair OE nozzles have the words Continental or Siemens on the upper shoulder. The part of the nozzle not visible from the outside. Anything else is an aftermarket copy. Word of warning I have seen some remanners try and repair the seat inside a nozzle. This removes all the case hardening and can greatly increase the likelihood of cracking. Look for the needle to be a lot lower in the body than normal.
Chase Smith I was using heavy duty oil additive. I’ve used it many times when rebuilding engines. You could use new 15w40 left over from an oil change.
thomas chin cold start misfires and if it was weak to were it didn’t cause a full misfire but it wasn’t contributing as it should. If you have a dead misfire. You either have something else causing the concern or you will find a broken part when disassembling the injector.
i want to replace my injectors it misfires come to idol after running from free way. in misfires for a couple seconds then go back to normal. it seems like loosing power when towing trailer up hill. some times it go to limp mode.
Chris, it's an honor to be your first subscriber! Well done on your 1st 2 videos man!
Thanks briansmobile1. Looking forward to making more video
Watched this series of videos you made a while back. I am rebuilding my injectors as I'm writing this. Thanks for the information!
Your welcome. That’s why I made the videos. Happy to hear they are helping.
Can't even begin to thank you enough for these vids brother. My wallet definitely thanks you. I found that little rectangle piece on the bench after reassembly of 4 injectors. I think you're the only guy on youtube that showed that piece. You're time doing this is greatly appreciated.
Your welcome. I’ve been having some trouble with the spool valve bolts loosening. I’ll talk about how to keep it fro happening.
Great video very meticulous. I don't let anyone work on my stuff. But I would trust this guy to work on my injectors.
Love the videos bro! Spoke in terms anyone could understand and you explained things at a good pace. Didn't over-explain or underexplain. I didn't feel like you needed to hurry up. Great pace. Thank you for this video.
Chris Rios Thank you. Exactly why I made the videos. Happy to hear you found them helpful.
Hey Chris. Thanks for the vid on rebuilding these injectors. I'm doing a head gasket job right now on my 6.0 and one of the injectors was stuck in the head. Long story short , I took the 2 t15 screws out to remove the electronics out of the way so that I could pry up on the injector with a couple of pry bars and the the injector popped out along with the big plunger and spring. I referred to this video to make sure I didn't lose any parts and put it back together. I was gonna buy a new injector until I saw your videos and figured out that I still had all the parts. I put it back together and it's going back into the truck, Eventually, I'll probably have to rebuild the injectors but for now, they're working fine.. Thanks... I just Subbed to your channel.
Marcel LeMay thank you. I’m going to put a new quick video about torquing the spool valve bolt. I’ve had some come loose. If I remember correctly. It .4 nm.
@@showmerepair how much does it coat approx to in parts alone to rebuild injectors? Can you get everything from alliant ? Does the electric side ever have failures?
Andrew Bartleman www.bitterrootdiesel.com.
Yes the electrical side goes bad some times. If the electrical side is bad the pcm will set a circuit code for that specific injector. Before replacing the injector or electrical part of the injector due to the code you should check resistance of the coils.
@@showmerepair how do i check the coils for resistance? Dumb question, i know.. im just not sure which part of the coil to check.
That little raised area on the nozzle needle isn’t machined on there from the factory. It is wear but doesn’t really hurt anything. I actually think is is erosion from the high pressure and high frequency from the injectors firing. I have built many non 6.0 injectors and that wear is common for all injectors with this style of nozzle. Great video.
The very tip of the nozzle? I’ll have to look at the new set of nozzles I have.
Love your videos Chris. If you're doing a lot of injectors, a good investment would be an inexpensive ultrasonic cleaner (they start at $35 on Amazon). We use several in our fuel injection shop and they do a much better job of cleaning stuff than just dipping in carb cleaner or using aerosols/rags. Plus they leave your hands free to do other stuff while they work.
gmupps thank you I’ll look into it
Good shit here fella, keep up the good work we need more guys like this willing to break it down for us!
great video!!!... Thank you sooo much for taking the time to make it and share it!!!... One question, don,t know if I missed it but what do you torque it to when putting back together the housing? TIA... never mind, got ahead of myself, just heard you say 55 ft/lbs
Your welcome. Happy to see it helped out.
Excellent video ...where would the diesel leak into oil ? if was injector ?
Diesel fuel flows through the cylinder head to feed each injector. The white and black o-rings on the body of the injector seal the fuel in. If the black seal is damaged at all fuel can leak out in to the valve train area of the cylinder head.
You can also have an injector that has failed internally and is leaking fuel out the body.
A good way to check for either of these is to put dye in the diesel fuel. Remove the oil rails from the head. Run the electric fuel pump to build fuel pressure. Use a black light to inspect around the injectors for leaks.
@@showmerepair Thanks !
Your welcome
Hey awesome video man im about to order up a kit and get it done. Question i have for you is, on these injectors is it most of the time just a question of cleaning them and changing the orings? Or do you see some of the components damaged or scratched to the point of needing a replacement? I ask because i hear that sometimes if you loose fuel pressure below 42psi you damage the injector, im not sure how it would become damaged from that.
Make sure the spool valve moves freely. If I have one that feels like it’s not moving freely through its bore. I’ll gently sand it with 2000 grit sand paper. Doesn’t always fix it but some times does.
The part that can be damaged due to low fuel pressure is the plunger under the large spring. I’ll sand the edges of the plunger lightly with 2000 sand paper. Other then that just inspect everything.
@@showmerepair thanks for the quick reply, awesome video
Your welcome and thank you
Thank you!!!
Your welcome. Thank you for watching.
Channels going to blow up
Thanks. Definitely slacking lately since where I’m at the temps are around 0 and my old house is having plumbing issues. But I’m planning on getting another video engine rebuild video out.
Is there anything I haven’t covered hat you’d like to see?
@@showmerepair yeah I feel you working in the cold sucks,I think your content is much different than any other channel,has a ton more info and educational purpose,I just like your rebuilds nothing specific.
Thanks Dakota I appreciate that. I’m gonna keep trying to put out videos that have good info.
At 5:30, what did you lubricate with?
I use clean engine oil. If I have anything 5w20 to 15w40 setting around I use it to lubricate the injector as I’m assembling it.
I have a couple of questions how do you make injector sizes like the nozzle and what else is the difference lets say like a 175/30
@@GageGonzalez-k3b 30 is the percent of flow over stock nozzle fuel flow. Many places sell larger nozzles.
175 is the internal holding volume of the intensifier pistons chamber.
If I remember stock is 155cc.
@@GageGonzalez-k3b here is a link to a video I made calculating the math for injector size.
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Mr. Chris, very good your video, could you tell me where I can buy the little piece that you show in the video (7:09). Thank you. Oro
Www.bitterrootdiesel.com
Can you tell me, are there gasket/seal kits available as a set for everything needed to do a complete injector set replacement? I want to change all eight injectors
Yes. You can get a kit to service all 8 injectors from Bitter Root Diesel. I’ve always bought kits from them since they come with new springs. bitterrootdiesel.com/collections/6-0-powerstroke/products/2003-2010-deluxe-6-0-powerstroke-injector-rebuild-kit
@@showmerepair Thank you so much for the fast reply. Greatly appreciated
@@showmerepair Oh wait, I was inquiring about valve cover gaskets etc, anything that would be involved in getting to the injectors
Your welcome. Good luck.
Oh. Your asking is there any other gaskets or parts needed to service the injectors? The valve cover gaskets are a reusable gasket. For a late build 6.0 you may check the o-rings on the stand pipe and d-plugs.
I'm loving the vids, thank you!!!😁
Subscribed, can you respond with the information as to where I can order some kits for my truck. This is going to save me big $$$$
Jason Moore bitterrootdiesel.com/
So if I measured the resistance and it came in a .7 that would mean ?????
Hey man good stuff, but please don't sand down the plunger of the intensifier body like you did early in this video. The only thing preventing diesel fuel from diluting your oil is the clearance between the plunger and body. The clearance is less than 1/50th the width of a human hair. Double the clearance increases the dilution exponentially. This is an engine killer over time even though the injector will work just fine.
Phil Vince thank you for the good info. I’ve learned so much good info from people commenting.
@@showmerepair you are welcome. While you can rebuild these injectors, and it might be cost effective for someone on a budget and time, it doesn't replace a proper reman. The machined components do wear, particularly the spool in the control valve. They need remachining to very tight tolerances to restore lost horsepower and torque. I've seen upto 40-50 hp recovery on a stock engine by replacing worn out injectors.
Thanks for the great instructional video. Have any of the injectors you’ve rebuilt needed new nozzles due to age or are they all simply covered in carbon and needing a soak in solvent?
Jeremy O I have heard of nozzles cracking but have not seen them personally. I did rebuild an injector the other day the was misfiring under load at times. It was better after I rebuilt it but still showed on my IDS power balance that it was still weak when driving. The internals of the injector looked great. I replaced that injector with a Ford reman. I suspect it was a nozzles since both times I removed that injector it had wet fuel hanging off the nozzles when pulled from engine. Though the fuel is supplied through the head and when removing the injector it could have ran down the body of the injector.
I just don’t remember seeing it on the other injectors.
I am working on building an injector flow bench. Then I’ll be able to have a better idea.
@@showmerepair Perfect, Always invaluable to get great first hand info from someone who’s got the knowledge/experience and willing to share. So thank you for the information! Good luck with the bench tester , would be cool to see that when completed, Subscribed.
Thanks Jeremy. When I get it going there will be several videos. Good luck. Feel free to ask more questions.
If your interested. Dynamite Diesel Performance can make you 10 hole injector nozzles. Go look into what they’ve found in testing 10 hole nozzles on their Cummins. Very cool what they are learning and sharing.
Hello, greetings, could you help me with the internal part numbers or names so I can buy them, thanks
@@efrainhernandez8555
The internal parts are very hard to find.
I only know a couple places that sell internal parts.
Accurate diesel and Bitter Root Diesel
@@showmerepair Thank you very much for responding, very satisfied with your videos, believe me, I was able to educate myself much better, much success from me, Sir,
@@efrainhernandez8555 your welcome. Just trying to share knowledge.
I have a very low km 2003 6.0 that I have owned since new. My fuel economy is dropping and I notice it smokes white smoke at idle now and getting more black soot in the tailpipe. The software is up to date in the pcm and idm and the voltage is good. Is there something in the injector that can be causing this? It runs great otherwise than the above issues. It has about 50000kms on the motor.
smoke skull it’s a possibility you could have 1 or more injectors causing an issue. Maybe the small spring that holds the needle seated.
Any codes in the pcm? You say you get white smoke on start up?
smoke skull I read your comment again. White smoke at idle. Are you noticing any drivability corks. Like slow to build boost at times? Stumbles when at cruise? Hesitated on acceleration? You say 50000km on the motor. Is this a rebuilt engine?
great job Chris! Question, do the injectors last? Obviously, you have done this before, great work. Are you confident enough to warranty them? I have never tried this and have been working on these 6 os since they came out. I wanted to but heard they dont last specially here in cold Boston thanks bro
The only thing that is keeping me from offering this to customers is running them on a flow bench. I’ve done this for myself and friends. Then installed them in the truck to make sure everything is working properly. I would not want to rebuild an injector and send it to someone to install themself with out running on a flow bench. Running on a flow bench would at least let me know the injector was operating correctly when I sent it out.
I am working on a flow bench. I’m going to have videos coming out soon with me trying to figure how to build it and make it work.
@@showmerepair Sweet! looking forward to that. Thanks
@@showmerepair Sounds good bro. so they have lasted. I have one I may try. Has rough Idle when first starting on a cold morning.. Electrically passes with IDS and has good current flow through the coils and is a friends truck. I think 1000 bucks sounds about right;)
Thanks bro
Sir Chris, Awesome Video, Based on your response to Andrew Bartleman about resistance in a filing coil, what should the ohms be on a good coil? Thanks in advance. If the women don't find you handsome they should at least find you handy.
Should have read failing coil!!!
Brian Finch thank you. Ambient temp. .4-.6 ohms. Normal operating temp .4-1.5 ohms.
Do you know if there's any way to decode the numbers on an injector body/nozzle? I pulled some used injectors to rebuild but wanted to know if there original injectors and nozzles first.
Brady Young sorry I do not having any info on decoding markings on the injectors. I’ve not seen any info on that either.
@@showmerepair OE nozzles have the words Continental or Siemens on the upper shoulder. The part of the nozzle not visible from the outside. Anything else is an aftermarket copy.
Word of warning I have seen some remanners try and repair the seat inside a nozzle. This removes all the case hardening and can greatly increase the likelihood of cracking. Look for the needle to be a lot lower in the body than normal.
Phil that’s great information. Thank you. Feel free to DM me. I’d love to ask some questions.
What’s the torque setting?
What part of the injector are you torquing. There a 3 different fasteners torque.
I believe I go over torquing in video 3
@@showmerepair I checked, and you didn’t, I meant the body torque
what Lucas product do you use to assemble the injector?
Chase Smith I was using heavy duty oil additive. I’ve used it many times when rebuilding engines. You could use new 15w40 left over from an oil change.
@@showmerepair Thanks for the quick response. Excellent video series. I am going to try to tackle it today.
Chase Smith feel free to ask more questions. I’ll help the best I can. Good luck.
are you rebuilding these injector because of misfire ? great video.
thomas chin cold start misfires and if it was weak to were it didn’t cause a full misfire but it wasn’t contributing as it should. If you have a dead misfire. You either have something else causing the concern or you will find a broken part when disassembling the injector.
i want to replace my injectors it misfires come to idol after running from free way. in misfires for a couple seconds then go back to normal. it seems like loosing power when towing trailer up hill. some times it go to limp mode.
You may have some weak injectors. Do a good diagnoses. Check to make sure fuel pressure is good. Check for codes. Guessing can be expensive
I called Bitterroot about rebuild kits and Matt advised me against rebuilds on my injectors as they have about 365K on them. Any thoughts??
Brian Finch Makes sense.