A Daunting Yet Powerful Creative Mixing Technique
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2022
- Matrix Mixers have been around for a long time and are a staple in installation sound, yet not often used in music production. A pity, since they offer amazing flexibility in routing that can be used to easily create exciting effect chains. Matrix Mixers also make it easy to create feedback patches, a technique used by many experimental musicians. In this video I show how they work on the example of the Erica Synths Matrix Mixer. They send me the unit, but they had no input on the video.
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YES! I love matrix mixers! Honestly I think the concept is still being slept on a lot, and that's a shame.
I don’t think any other being has introduced me to more new musical equipment and/or ideas, thanks for the awesomeness Hainbach
"But can create nasty feedbacks" looks like a win-win to me!
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I love the work Hainbach does. But, thanks to his serene camera presence, I really want to hear him narrate children's stories. In fact, imagine if he were to both narrate and score Peter and the Wolf!
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With a dub techno backing.
@@girlinagale God no... His own ambient work. And, mind you, I love dub and downtempo. But with his speaking style? I definitely think his own work would fit better.
omg, I just thought I'd invented the matrix mixer, then searched UA-cam and this came up! I was looking for a simple mixer no EQ and lots of aux sends. 😂🤣. I'm going to DIY a passive one and see how it goes. mmmmmm feedback!
yet again a good and interresting video.
Thanks for taking the time to make the video and share it.
I've not heard of matrix mixers before - fascinating and I can see how it both makes complex systems easier to visually navigate and also create unexpected and unintended interactions with equipment. I loved the sound of the track that began at 9:35 - the interaction of the noise and tonal elements compressed together was beautiful.
Sounds ace. Program change is a brilliant idea.
My concern was whether you'd hear a pop as it momentarily switched but it doesn't sound like it from these demos. So, yeah!
I can confirm that it does not pop or crack when you switch programs. It is smooth, and sounds good.
I learn so much from your videos, and they are extremely well made, Thank you for making these videos.
Those random patches made really wonderful noises. There's an incredible amount of depth in those sounds!
I'm so happy you covered this cause I thought it seemed cool in concept but didn't exactly know how it worked. if I ever make a large noise system I might get this just for the random feature
Loving the rhythmic stuff your doing here, The self generative power electronic button is an instant sell for this thing too
great video! the matrix mixer is so exciting, i need to bust mine out again
I had no idea noises had such a huge update, I think it deserves another video.
I've had great success sample some noodling of a Rhodes in d dorian, and then scanning through them with noises
Very interesting!!
The feed backs are fun to manipulate.
Excellent vid!!!
this is so wild it’s not even funny , watching your videos and actually developing a way better understanding from it , this is the first video that i understood completely and also understand how big this mixer is for your music , it’s the best thing for you hain !!
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For years I have used matrices for utilitarian things like intercoms and general signal routing. Never occurred to me they could be used creatively. Leave it ti Hainbach! Helps to think in terms of “sources” and “destinations”.
I just love working with a matrix for voltage or audio. I personally use the Alyseum’s Matrix II in a Eurorack form. It’s a real wonder to work with CV to change patches / routing instantly.
I'm into guitar ambient and first I saw Pladask matrix mixer used by Andy Othling in his generative ambient pedal chain, but this mixer is awsome! A specially because of MIDI CC's! Andy allow people to play with his pedals on twitch streams via MIDI... You can only imagine what people could do if they had way to controll his mixer!!! Thanks for sharing this mixer, it's ambient creators dream and it looks amazing!
If Erica synths made a 1/4" unit I'd be in love. I'm pretty sure the adapters would out price the unit in no time 😂
Your like a mad scientist in a music lab , love this!
Nice! I don't have enough gear for a hardware matrix mixer, but have been meaning to check out a few of the options in VCV and keep forgetting! Thanks for reminding me 😉
I haven’t been using the Matrix mixer for audio processing and routing. For me it has been great for CV like LFO’s being multed and summed. I really appreciate seeing how this can go into more complicated sound design.
Feedback generally yields interesting, sometimes-musical results. There are so many ways to produce and to manipulate feedback, especially now with all the routing and programmability options available in music equipment and software, that it opens a whole new world of possibility that did not exist except in the most minimal forms before amplification and signal mixing. The 1960s enjoyed a huge expansion of awareness of the possible creative uses of feedback, and the decades since have slowly added depth and complexity to the available palate of feedback and feedback-related sounds.
Thank you for touching on this treasure chest of audio routing and recombination in this gear-introduction video.
Also it seems like there could be a feature of fading between different presets for some life magic or/and madness! It would be like a new way to vector synthesis but in an analog way. Knowing your power, if you like the idea, you could even possibly reach out to erica synth for a firmware update?..
Oh my, a VCA fade would be amazing
I have a feeling the chipset used only supports a few different levels? Otherwise the lack of level controls seems really bizarre to me.
Damn. Never thought of matrix mixers in this way. Awesome.
That last sound was beautiful, would make a great pad!
I got an Alyseum ms matrix. Lately I’ve been wondering what to do with it, actually thinking of selling it. This stirred up some great ideas. Thanks!
This looks difficult to learn but really fun to use once you understand it. I hope I can try one some day
Thank you. I’ve been looking at this Matrix Mixer for the past few weeks online trying to decide if I want to drop change on it to add to my studio, where my partner and I collaborate on a guitar, drum, vocals, keyboard and random outboard analog rack and pedal effects. I wasn’t sure if this was for us and more so for the synth crowd, but after watching this, I know now, this is just what I’ve been looking for. If we can use a pedal controller to setup preset patches on the matrix mixer to execute recallable complex effects routing with just a simple pedal stomp, then we are going to be able to be so much more creative. I might even try my hand at setting up some voltage changes with the keyboard to automate key and pitch changes. Tall order for an old dumb drummer. But I’m willing to give it a go. Thanks again.
Oh boy the random patches are insane ! Would love to get this thing at some point.
That this is coool
Thanks mate!
Wonderfull💚
im just getting into live dub style mixing and it looks like a matrix mixer would be an excellent way to get more out of my aux sends
thank U
Great video as always! Can you explain the “true sound on sound” mod ?
This is the "taking the red pill" version of patching.
Thankyou! I'd never considered using a matrix mixer as the heart of a guitar pedalboard. I could plug the drum machine into it, too...
Nice mixer. Very tempted myself. As energy prices soar, I imagine this room is heavy on your electric bill.
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Thanks for making this video as Erica Synths didn't share any video with alternatives use of the mixer, only found eurorack based videos online. Random patches sound insane! Did u produce their sound (0:22) with line inputs, or did u use eurorack? Thank you :)
I have Erica and setting it up now. In the Mutron example or other feedback examples is there an input signal? also would you recommend only FX in the matrix or have you had good results with patching sound generators in either side?
Hi, Heinberg!
I kinda envy performance composers… but then again, when I’m approached my remixers and producers, being able to supply them with stems seems kinda vital. Had that issue recently… where I pretty much only had the stereo master and it was really tricky to provide something that could be remixed.
Those random patches sound just like the demos for Nonlinear Circuits' modules
4:20 can i find this track somewhere
sounds awesome
also where did you get your sweater? :)
Yes! That track is on my Patreon.com/hainbach, together with >150 more.
Second hand shop find by my wife
Matrix mixers are also great for CV, have you explored that Hainbach? The Doepfer A-138m is great for that in euro, it has bipolar/unipolar switches and the ability to offset the voltage! CV feedback is great :)
I have only done that very limited years ago. At some point I want a Doepfer system, it is just so clear and cool
@@Hainbach I feel the same way! I started with a 6U Clank case (same as yours) filled with dense multifunctional modules and slowly all are getting replaced by Doepfer ones :P Room to wiggle and clear functionality, they really are great.
:23 daunting and create feedback…sounds like Merzbow or Whitehouse!
I'm wondering, is the Erica thing really a matrix mixer or just a matrix router? The two knobs seem to select rows and columns, so where do you adjust the level??
It has three levels per patch point, you adjust with clicking the left knob.
The sound starting at 7:20 sounds like a screeching demon.
That is the most feature rich matrix mixer I have seen. I love them.
How many I and outs does that thing have?
16 x 16
Sixteen inputs and sixteen outputs, with 3 selectable levels of attenuation.
@@mbessey wow, it is unreal. For me, a dream module.
@@Hainbach It would be awesome to have a more performance based vid with a brief discussion
Does anyone know if you can send more than 1 output to an input ?
Yeah, just need a stack jack or similar
Quick tip for people who use RME audio interfaces, so if you haven't realized yet, the TotalMix is a matrix mixer :) So if you have enough I/O you can do stuff like this.
Yes! Totalmix is extremely powerful
@@Hainbach I burned some cash and got myself a HDSPe MADI FX and some converters and now I'm like "I can have EVERYTHING IN THE MATRIX!!!1" :D Seriously, TotalMix matrix mixer is the best thing ever, basically nothing constricts you. And then you have the EQ and dynamics too from the MADI FX card itself.
@@Hainbach Aaand one more tip for the analog side of things, Crest XR20M monitor mixers are dirt cheap nowadays, it is a 20 in - 12 out matrix mixer with EQ on input channels and good preamps (headroom!), these things go like 250eur :) Of course it lacks the fancy features such as patch memory, random etc. as it is fully analog, but atleast your have more knobs to twist than you ever wanted ;)
Lovely mixer and concept (similar to handle routing with patchbay rack) but I don't like MINIJACK!!! That part for me is important because I should change ALL my cables..
I would get the Erica matrix mixer just for the shift+pattern feature alone, if it didn't cost €490.
606, the slightly cursed 808.
Non-music question. Where do you buy your sweaters? They have that Koos look to them.
Damn you're right the sweater is peng
That one was gift from my wife from a second hand store
@@Hainbach I thought it might be a thrift store find. Well, it's a good one!
I bet merzbow would dig this
exactly what i need in my music screams from hell
i feel your audio is a bit harsh, might be the youtube compression.
late to the party here.. However my Matrix has been so essential to my DAW less set up that I can't work with out it..
gah now these will be even harder to find used... unless a bunch of people buy them and discover they are too daunting... yes yes but them people, then sell them to me for cheap!
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Hi Hainbach, here’s a tool you definitively should give a look ! From DaveMech’s channel : ua-cam.com/video/HQY9oeJG1EU/v-deo.html
LOL ua-cam.com/video/fLb3pqr3pss/v-deo.html
makes me spend another 550 € to the ussual suspects ... ;-((