2024 Acura Integra Type S Ownership Update - Regrets After 3000 Miles?
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- Опубліковано 12 гру 2023
- 3000 miles, 4 track days, and a few mods later... did I buy the wrong car?
Check out SpeedSF's blog post on my Integra Type S:
www.speedsf.com/blog/2023/11/...
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Tiger, you rock. I have so been enjoying your Videos. I just purchased a Red Type S and I agree with you.
Sweet car, especially since it's something that can perform at the track while also being a daily driver.
Totally agree with you on memory seats. It seems like such an obvious feature, especially if you share a car. Having to readjust each time is the worst.
I could honestly do without memory seats no one drives my car lol but for what they're asking for these it should have it.
Lmao how old are you?
Especially on a manual where you want to dial the clutch distance perfectly.
cry babies...
My TL did the same thing
Awesome hearing the comparisons. This seems like a really excellent daily package and surprising that it is working out so well on the track as well, after being spoiled by so many beautiful RWD machines. Really interested to continue following along!
Enjoyed the review! Keep up the good work!
Built in navigation is still suuuper useful. Especially considering in just how many areas you lose phone service. My FL5 Type-R's built in Navigation has saved my ass on multiple occasions already just within the first year of ownership. It's awesome to have it as a back-up to your regular Apple Carplay/Android Auto.
Side note: I live in the mountains of Northeastern PA, and the winters here get really freezing. However you don't miss having heated seats in the Type-R because they're not your regular leather seats, so they're never really that cold, and they warm up as soon as you sit in them. I've had and still have other cars with heated seats, and even then I rarely use them, though they are nice to have.
You can literally download maps offline and used them because they use satellite not cell towers
@@i.d.6492Yeah...But you gotta prep for that. It's also less convenient and can be less accurate. Particularly cause the magnetometer in phones can often be off or screwed up compared to a gyrocompass (you can actually watch it sometimes just holding the phone still while it spins maps around in circles). The GPS antenna is also much smaller on your phone. Not saying its not doable...just less convenient, and has it's issues. Having an in car built in navigation is just a nice to have feature, and more convenient on the daily, especially if it already comes standard, and is not a paid optional upgrade.
Been a while since I have seen your videos. This is such a nice daily car. I want one!!!
I have it for about three months now and love almost everything about it. I just wish wish wish(did not stutter) it's quieter! You can feel and hear everything on the road. How it groans when the road curves. Road noise amplifiers on concrete roads. Other than that, it's always fun, thrilling and gets your blood moving whenever you want it. It's like Clark Kent and Superman. That's how drastic between comfort mode and Sport plus is. And...wait for it...carry whole boat loads of grocery.
It's mostly the ps4s tires. I love them but they are the loudest tires I've ever encountered
Those pops are annoying indeed
For the seat belt situation. My Elantra N is the same. I pull it all the way out and it doesnt lock. Read in the owner's manual it is designed to only lock in car accident scenarios. I am guessing this is a new modern design of seat belts.
Very nice review man! I love my Type S! My only complaint is the lack of clearing the Bluetooth cache when you remove devices. Now I'm unable to pair my BT mp3 player since it can't find any audio tracks since the cache memory is trying to find the last song played at a specific spot and the mp3 player doesn't do that.
Thank you for the excellent video. Have you have any issues with dash rattles? Seems like I read about several in forums.
Interesting to hear pros and cons for both daily driving and track use. Have you looked into a CG lock for the seat belt to help hold you in the seat? I use one for track days, helps a little, and definitely better than stock. And cheaper/easier vs a new seat, full harness. Also agree with the Michelin PS4S, as I had side wall/shoulder wear issues running 34/35 PSI hot. I'm now running 36/37 PSI hot with better results.
I haven't but will! Good call
When driving at 60 mph on concrete slab freeways, your setup looks on screen much calmer than the jiggly Type R, though all your back-to-back (head-to-head ?) comparisons are in the canyons.
"no memory seat settings"
What the hell Acura, my 23 Integra A-spec has that. Why would you take it out of the type-s??
I wish the gauge cluster display had an option for something a little more sportier than just the 2 standard gauges we've seen for decades.
I totally agree
That played a big part in why I went with a Type R. I thought the interior as a whole was much better than the Type S. The S2000 racing style odometer is really badass. Both cars are great to drive though.
we are definitely blessed for our weather here in norcal lol
Its funny most of things you enjoy is what I love about my Elantra N aswell
Also have you tried left foot braking to help with the understeer?
Elantra N seems to have everything you'd want in a fun, capable daily driver
It's much less expensive than competition too
What i do for the seat belt to lock in my acura is push my self back into the seat the jerk my self forward which triggers the seat belt lock. Kinda helps only thing is need to keep pressure on the seatbelt lol hopefully that makes sense
When I switched my daily, from a more sporty, lower, reclined seat to a less sporty, higher, upright seat, I had some "lower back pain" for a short while, which was simply certain muscles strengthening to adapt to the new seating position/posture. I think the same happened with you.
With likely a lot of track days coming in 2024, what is your level of comfort regarding the lack of a proper tow hook solution on the ITS, versus the CTR? How hard was it for the tow guys to pull you out of T6 at Laguna?
I think a set of Recaro Sportster CS would look nice and a heated version is available
@Zygrene 11:50, how would you say the road noise compares with your Kumho V730s compared to run flats? Your type S didn’t come with run flats but just curious about your observation
Another excellent video. Did you notice any slight interior rattles / vibrations with Ohlins when going over road imperfections or divides?
No new rattles after the Öhlins, but the car has had slight rattles from the seat belt retractors since new. Common issue, apparently.
Have you seen anything to address this? I have a few rattles around my cabin. And definitely from the seatbelt area @@Zygrene
@@HasanQazi not yet
I’ll be curious to see fl5 seats in your car. I have ITS as well and the seats are a comfy for 5,11 170 lbs but sportier seats would be nice.
You are the first to have my same idea. Believe me when i say the tyoe r seats are by far more comfortable and well bolstered at the same time. Would love someone to do a swap
Awesome videos, really enjoying your track days with the Type-S.
Question.. have you had any overheating issues, high oil Temps? Forums are saying because the turbo is close to radiator, only a couple laps in a row are safe. Some are saying for long term sessions, radiator, intercooler and oil cooler need upgrading. Curious if you've noticed any issues?
Lol
Do they have any actual data to back up their paranoid delusions ?
I considered buying one but the winters of the Great Lakes are brutal
Perfectly balanced vehicle for daily, plus canyons and the occasional track day. One recommendation re: ohlins, you may want to go same clicks front & back, or maybe even slightly stiffer back then front compare to way you have it now. I put 5 front and 3 clicks back on same exact suspension with a mk6 R. Clearly different setup with awd vs fwd (although fwd bias is heavy in the R) but that particular selection along with a beefier aftermarket rear swaybar makes her a little more playful and easier to rotate at the limit. You should try it, will likely improve your times further at the track as it will eliminate almost all the under steer with a good camber setup up front ;)
Good call. I'll try that at the next track day
Agreed, especially since the rear spring rates are so much higher
What engine oil would you recommend? I have a DE5 too, and I am planning to take it on track this summer for a day or two.
Wow we've driven the same amount of miles. I'm just about at 3K miles on my New C30 rebuild!
You're doing it right. I've driven my NSX about 2500 miles in 12 months 😔
I have a 2023 Civic SI and I love almost everything about it, but the lighter 1.5T engine and colder weather makes it have a lot of FWD traction problems in 1st and 2nd gear. The difference between the Integra Type-S and Type-R up here in Canada is only like $6000 CDN or $4000 USD and I prefer the hatchback layout to a regular sedan. What bothers me is the loss of my rear heated seats and no rear seat HVAC vents, which is a weird omission on a more luxury oriented car, and something I could get in a GTI or Golf R, but I'd have the problem with their horrific touch screen configuration. Thanks for this. Nice and thorough review. Weird item about the "total passenger weight" lol and the lack of a memory option for the driver.
For seatbelt, there used to be a product called CG-lock, which was the go to "harness" like solution for 3 point belts which locked the lapbelt part, not sure if there is an alternative these days.
Have you had any problems with the coolant overflow tank rupturing at 800 miles (give or take) ? I guess not, or you would have mentioned it. I've seen forums where this has been a problem.
Interesting, my Integra A-Spec 6spd does have memory seats. I didn’t realize they cut this out on the Type-S. Maybe weight savings?
How do you like dailying with the kumhos? Especially in the rain?
Zygrene, Acura recommends 93 octane Premium for the Type S. As you know, we don't get 93 in California, or, at best, it's extremely rare. Yes, the car can run safely on our 91 octane Premium, but that usually means a reduction in power, fuel mileage, and the occasional knocking and pinging. Living in NoCal, how are you coping with this issue?
Reupholster the Type R seats to match your interior.
You get a better bolstered OEM seat and something super unique.
I think the Type R seat is also the perfect compromise, its holds you well, but isn't a full on bucket seat, so dailying in it won't suck.
They are very comfortable seats also
How v730 hold for this car？I am considering this tire as well for my next season，looking for something like endurance 200tw，currently using ad09，considering switch something else like ECf，but v730 is soooo cheap，so wondering how it hold
I have a 10th gen civic….that Acura looks GREAT!
Did u lower the car with the Ohliens?
Wow ! I'm only 70 but when I grow up , I'll buy one. Thank you !
Love the Color! Did you put ppf on it?
Nope. I live life on the edge
I feel like I HAVE to get this car, rather than the civic type R... But I've seen other videos with a pretty large amount of crackle when letting off the gas.
I don't hear that here... Did you modify the exhaust/use a particular engine setting to minimize/eliminate that? I was under the impression that the "resonator delete" was standard.
Also, I feel like I owe it to myself and remain patient to see if the 2025 gains power-passenger seat or perhaps seat memory... Probably not, but idk, I might as well hold out just to FAFO.
This car with dual clutch automatic or even a snappy torque converter automatic with paddle shifters would make it an incredible daily driver. I'd also want a sunroof for open air fun.
The world doesn't need anymore auto trans cars
Type S should also come with 2 door coupes 😊
That would probably make the car under 3000 lbs which would be perfect.
@brhardi48326 doubt it. You know how hard it is to keep it under 3k with all the technology cars offer now? Under 3k the car would have crazy road noise and won't have any heated seats Android auto etc etc
Nope! Sorry! We love 4 Doors!!!!
The RSX type S was such a perfect fwd coupe
@bruceinglis4300 We would have liked to see a bigger wider coupe from Honda with RSX badge... not NSX level... these are just overpriced 4 door civic hatchbacks in my eyes.
Is this in Dublin? I recognize that intersection @2:28
It's a great car to drive and I love the looks. The only reason I didn't get it is because of the lack of Type R inspired gauges, memory seating, poor one color ambient lighting.
Types S or the new Type R? The blue Type S looked amazing in person. Love your content.
I probably would have gotten the Type R if I could find one at MSRP, but I'm not regretting the Type S one bit. I'm fully appreciating the extra creature comforts!
@@Zygrene
TypeRs are plentiful at $5k over and still less than the teggy.
I’d wait for the 2025 Type R.
I’m betting they fix the harsh suspension and make sport and comfort mode softer.
@@hasonlavajunk9774
The stiff dampening is what makes R mode so good. Nothing to fix.
@@Scythersmile1 that’s what Race mode is for. No reason to be so stiff in Comfort and Sport.
Have u driven thr GRC, if so how does it compare?
They could have made a nice 2 door like the old Integra. It looks too grandma's econobox for me but maybe in the future coupes will sell better.
Uh…one would use the GPS road map systems when you don’t get a good cell signal or none at all I would think!
so at 2:59 do i see 2 blue focus rs's or am i seeing things??
Best thing you can do is get a carpet pad to protect the carpet
It's cool to track it, but isn't it specifically tuned for street handling? Kinda like a Tourer opposed to Sport. I considered a Type S as well as a Mk8 GolfR while cross shopping, as well as an RDX A-Spec Advance, but ended up going with ordering an Audi Allroad Prestige w Black Optics. It's got great performance, still 0-60s in 5s, but is super comfy for dailying & has all the niceties for dailying as well. I currently daily a GT Sport which also has a ton of nice daily features but I'm tired of the super harsh suspension, even tho it handles super well. I agree tho on the memory seats, for a $50k sportback, it should basically come with every feature under the moon. That's why I was happy with the Allroad, order price was $60k & came with everything I could want & currently have in my GT Sport.
To me Integra Type S is by far a better choice. It looks more upscale and luxury yet at the same time super aggressive with wide fenders. Civic Type R looks like any other cheap civic I see on the roads every day. If it wasn't for the brembos and out of place wing it would have been difficult to tell it's type R.
Have you driven either of these? I have an FL5 and I love it. I do think the integer type S would be a better daily but looks are subjective. The R badge is what sells it
Would you choose this over the BRZ as your daily? Maybe assume you had a spare SUV in case you need space occasionally.
brz is lame compared to this.
@@markrodz2633- right because
It’s rwd and light and NA, vs an old man’s fwd car with good forward thrust
If had a spacious and comfortable daily already, I'd probably go with a BRZ or other FR car for a fun car
Will be looking into this /fl5 or the mk5 supra, so hard to decide!
I’d decide it purely on do you need the practicality. The Supra has the even better engine not to mention RWD. it might have less steering feel but it’s so much more performance for like almost the same money
@@rahatchoudhury175 yeah i have a suv as a daily so space doesnt matter, i was even looking at s2000s but I feel like at my age i will have less track time and more street/canyon so i feel a supra would be up my alley in terms of best bang for my buck
Only thing I would love Acura to have is ventilated seats and a moonroof and ambient lighting.
Agree on ventilated seats. Not a fan of moon roofs as they add weight up top. The ITS has ambient lighting at the front.
Nobody wants moon/sun roof LOL😂
Omg you drove past my apartment 😂
l am sure smoother than my 2023 WRX and more comfy
Lack of embedded navigation I think though is a serious miss for this car to me.
I've been waiting to find a great manual transmission car and, I think, this car is finally the one I've been waiting for! #IntegraTypeS
What is your daily MPG?
Okay, I have a question about auto rev match since I've never owned a car that had it. Do you just down shift and then release the clutch without having to give it any gas?
Yes, it does all the rev matching/blipping for you. I've driven cars with this feature a couple times, it's honestly very disorienting to me and feels wrong, but I drive an older manual car every day. I'm sure I could get used to it after a while but I'm not sure I'd want to... I'm afraid I'd accidentally forget to blip if I got back in a car without the feature
I have the type R and the rev match sucks. Once your shift into the gate of the next gear, it revs. It's so annoying I turned it off.
no navigation? odd...there is in the ctr...i personally think the sound system is better sounding the fl5 much more balanced and clean sounding
did you need camber plates?
Definitely a nice car but I can't justify the price when there are other offerings that offer more features and better quality interior. This is even more true if you are going to change suspension and brake pads anyway.
Inside passenger seat looks like my 19 nsx.
I live in LA and will it be a bad choice to get this car, since it's a manual in a dense city with bad traffic? Will it tire me to drive it every day, all day?
I used to have an RSX-S as my daily driver when I lived in San Francisco years ago. It definitely got old after a while
On the other had, you do have Topanga and malibu canyons. And a few more! But yeah, my 90;s Integra was a bummer in LA for me. But I'm in AZ now!
18:38 Are you sure there’s fake exhaust sounds? I recall two car reviewers mentioning the Civic Type R has it 6000rpms, but they didn’t mention it on this car. Actually none of the viewers have mentioned it. That’s disappointing if it does.
Only gripe is the lack of memory seat, and the passenger seat is manual adjustment. That sucks because the A spec integra has those features, I'm not sure why those weren't included in the type s considering its price point
Sounds like a real world problem!
@MD-qp8gj never said it was, lol. But at that price point and trim level, those should've been included as it'sincluded in the A spec trim already. It's not necessarily a deal breaker tho
@@mrspencer72 Fair enough. I Chair Autocross events and drive/ride along in many performance cars, Porsche GT3's 4s Turbo S's and this car holds it's own in the handling/fun department for way cheaper than those cars.
@MD-qp8gj I can imagine. I work for Acura, and when it first came out, I was skeptical. Then I drove it, and that was it, lol. I was sold.
I'm liking that car, but still can't wrap my head around a $60K civic with some add-ons. You still realize that the car is cheap when you notice that it is missing the normal equipment that should be there at this price point: memory seats, rear HVAC controls, power passenger seats, 4 banger. I just picked up a used cayman for the same coin.....
Ohlins suspension on a daily driver seems a little overkill. Do you track it also?
Yup. I've posted 4 track videos
@@Zygrene Sorry, I'm an idiot, i watched the 1LE camaro track video before watching this one. I didn't make the connection because your voice sounded so different (since you recorded with a helmet on.) I track my 1LE often but it's pretty much stock except for tires.
The recaro sporster CS are available with a heated option 🤷♂️
Tempting!
I thought all Honda had indirect tpms now?
Lap times @ thill?
Question, why are the spring rates higher in the rear? Im a 90's Honda fan boy and im sure to having higher spring rates in front
For extra rotation on track
Spring rates are dependent on a per model basis. Different springs seat at different locations on the lower control arm causing a different at wheel spring rate.
@@Zygrene That's what I'd figured, thx!
@trevor6814 I remember in the 2000's when I was building my EJ8, most rwd setups had higher spring rates in the rear.
Some front-drive Hondas have higher rear spring rate stock. The GD Fit/Jazz of 2001-2008 is an example. Rear spring rate is pretty much double the front.
Shortcomings: fwd, price.
The no memory seats and a manual passenger seat is a travesty.
I’m getting the 2024 Elantra N. It’s like 16k cheaper for perhaps 1% less performance?
Seats are hard on your ass and interest rates are high lol. Elantra N being so much cheaper enables me to buy it cash!
EN is fantastic. Just wish it looked better.
Did you see the new refresh for 2024 though? It looks a lot better. The Type S looks fantastic.
@@gabrielflores1149 the new front end is way better! But still not a fan of the side and rear profiles
Did the same.... 0 regret it. I still love the Integra, but performance-wise, they are too close to making me spend 20K or more...
Also agree on this.... not a fan of the looks but im also a fan of my money LOL@@Zygrene
From the sides It looks like a mini lambo Urus
Pull your seat belt as hard as u can . It should lock then
Where in Northern Cali?
What benefits do you think the 5w-30 gives over 0w-20?
Better protection on track
@@Zygrenefrom what? It will also slightly change response and power.
@@robertmedina3195 imperceptible
we're making 30 minute update videos after like 2 weeks worth of miles now? lol
Yup
This video could have been much shorter had it focused on things that weren't apparent on the first day. As it is, It's 90% a review of a new car with little new perspective.
No AWD option, no DCT option (I say this as a life long manual driver), no sunroof, no rear HVAC vents (wtf), manual passenger seal (lol), no memory seats for the driver, no fog lights, no rear USB ports, no ventilated seats, no folding mirrors, etc. This is absolutely NOT a luxury performance car. The amount of other cars at that price point is endless. There's a reason why so many Integra Type S are piling up on dealership lots. My local dealer (not even a big volume store) has SIX that have been sitting since September.
I will say that my 2017 GTI had all those assist systems and heated seats...
The Golf R is loaded and significantly less expensive. Acura made a decision to offer a "premium" CTR at a premium price but very few premium features. At $53k it's a stripper... everything rear of the b-pillar is a plastic dumpster.
I won't purchase a car without built in navigation, cooled seats, heated seats/heated steering wheel, auto start and an infotainment system that is integrated into the dashboard instead of looking like something was forgotten and stuck on the dash. I like the look of the exterior but that waffle vent is hideous. Glad your happy with that car.
And seriously with a built in navigation? 😂😂😂😂 dumb@@@
11:02 Just what I like!
Shake it; don't break it; it your..................
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What is this concept of a daily driver? Why not drive the best car possible for a daily driver?
Just wish they didnt use so many parts from the Civic on the interior.
Just remember, the Integra has always been based on the Civic platform
The only regret is not getting a TypeR instead.
I have the FL5 and also test drove the Type S. The Type is is a lot more refined than the Type R. Just depends what you're looking for. For me, I didn't like the Type S bc it was too soft (Zygrene changed his suspension), and too quiet with all the sound dampening was so numb to me. But if you're looking for something more refined, the Type S is the way to go for sure.
3000 miles it's barely broken in 😆
For a second I thought I was watching a Tedward video
Upgraded brake fluid? Next time your going to say upgraded coolant fluid
My kids would destroy that white interior wtf were they thinking it will age soooo bad
Its the trend.
you can seal leather now with ceramic technology. extremely easy to keep clean.
No kids = happy life
You don’t have to pick white pretty crazy
You can get black he didn't
Buy a Sienna breeder
You don’t have 360 cameras, which is huge
Do you do any online gaming? Carrying a team can lead to mysterious backpain. Ask me how I know...
Haven't considered myself a gamer for almost a decade. Messed up my lower back deadlifting in my 20's.
I messed up my back deadlifting BBWs ( Big Beautiful Woman ) 😂
@@keep_it_low_bro lolol.. hey man, big girls need love too.. they go that extra mile.
@@dre32pitt You know that's right bro lol 💯💪🏾
I know this would get me summarily executed by some enthusiasts, but I really wish there was an automatic version.
I wouldn't be mad if there was an automatic option, as long as they still make enough manuals for those willing to pay MSRP
There is. It's called the TLX.
I mean I guess but it also weighs 500 lbs more and has 40 less HP. Not a great replacement. @@mdbbox5660
Man i wish this car was not 70k CAD.
I would never pay $60K for a Tarted-up Civic with leather..Never.
It just won road and tracks performance car of the year under 100k so it’s a lot more than a civic . The type r platform is pretty incredible .