Nothing better than surveying the trusted reviewers that all comment on different stuff, nice to see you cite savagegeese, but I like that you each contribute something different to a review and purchasing decision!
Matt, thank you for the follow up. Well done! I LOVE this car. Actually, my wife and I both LOVE this car. She gave me the green light to get one :) (1) now it is time to come up with the money and (2) I hope not to get GOUGED with a huge dealer mark up :( BTW I LOVE this spec with the blue and the off white interior. I would just add those beautiful bronze rims to mine. Well done Acura. Well done.
Honestly they should've revealed it with this first. I know companies reveal the base models first then the special editions. But Acura would've made a bigger splash along with not receiving hate.
My attainable dream car. I can't wait to get my hands on this whether it's a standard Integra Type S, if they make a PMC Edition Integra Type S, a Special Edition Integra Type S in whatever model year coming, or a Limited Edition Integra Type S however far they put more work into it, even if they add another 5-10hp and another 5-10lb-ft of tq, upgrade the suspension to some better, forged wheels, revised the gear ratios for even better shifting, etc...
Saw it in person and test drove it...probably one of the best looking cars/sedans i have ever seen...It is really flat and planted....very punchy in the mid range in 3rd gear. JUST fun! by the way its way more planted than the cadillac V which I test drove as well...not even close!
Reviewers always compare the Integra to Hyundai but there is no comparison when it comes to reliability whether it's compared to Audi, Mercedes, or now Cadillac. Long term reliability and maintenance costs far exceed what you'd get in a Honda and as an actual owner, that cost matters.
AWD would be wishful thinking as the Integra/Civic platform wasn't designed for SH-AWD. However, the 10-speed automatic from the TLX Type S would've been reasonable. We know that transmission can pair with the CTR-related 2.0T from the TLX A-spec/prior Accord, and it can handle at least 355 hp/354 lb-ft from the TLX Type S. Perhaps Acura has that in the works?
@@TheBreakfastLover i dont think the 10at would fit in the type R subframe, not especially with the R specific front suspension. also honda doesnt have an lsd for the automatic
Ever since I saw the first release videos of this car, I wanted it. Went to Acura of Fremont, but none available to drive. Drove a TLX A-Spec and really enjoyed it. Might go back to drive that Type S while I wait to drive an ITS. I think Acura is making great cars for the money. Looks are subjective, and to each his own, but the ITS and TLX S are good looking cars to me. As an aside, drove a Lexus IS350 FS at the dealer next door. Not a fan. Salesman sat in the car with me. Automatic negative. Acura guy just gave me the keys and said enjoy - the way it should be.
I want this car in white and dealership in Toronto want a $2000 dollars deposit to secure one and over here starting price is $55600.0 dollars.Great review Matt.👍🏼👊🏼
We’ve both changed a lot since those days. I’m thankful to say I’ve had a lot of great times hanging out with Mark and Jack on events, they’re awesome.
I used to own Subarus and sadly was very disappointed by their reliability. Two OEM engines were killed by factory defects. I also don’t really like the looks of the wrx . But yes I wish the integra was Awd
Still would personally prefer it to have been AWD, there’s not much that differentiates this from the Type R since the Type R is already a nice car inside and out.
It would be much heavier and would need more Hp to feel as quick, and that’s would also mean much more expensive. If I’m going to spend $70k on a 4 banger it would be an AMG
@@R.P.E A lot of youtubers, such as ThatDudeinBlue do not like the Integra. They have not personally test-driven them to see if it's as bad as they say, but because these youtubers are pretty popular, people just take their word for it.
Definitely not. The Integra is selling really well and is a huge hit with the buying public, it’s just that Honda doesn’t want the Type S being produced in high numbers.
According to Matt Farrah from the Smoking Tire, they have the capacity to double the output of the CTR. While that’s not crazy numbers, it’s a far cry from limited . The demand is just nuts right now. One dealer in Atlanta has a list of 80 buyers with an initial allocation of 10 cars. They have the highest allocation numbers I’ve seen in GA, AL, TN, SC, and NC. But they aren’t charging over sticker so people are lining up to buy from them.
Totally different missions and driving experiences. Want a bigger, heavier luxury cruiser that's still sporty? That's the TLX. If you want more engagement, a smaller, lighter, more nimble car, then the Integra is miles better.
@@MattMaranMotoring Matt, I agree with the above. However, at similar price points (after dealer mark-up) what's your advice, purely from an ~ equal spend? Thanks.
This car is much better looking than type R. Looking at this you know it's type S, when I look at the regural civic I don't know if it's a type R or regural civic until I see wing or brembos. But then again it's Honda not an Audi
why don't they increase production numbers when people are lining up to buy this car. I plan to get a 2024 model in 2027, but I am afraid they will just be a collectors item since they are not making that many.
Because they don't care about selling these in high volumes. The Type R demand is much higher since it's sold globally, so the focus for engine production is those. The Type S is just a fun side project for Acura.
How many people charge their phones in the back seat of a manual shifting car? I have never had someone on my car use them. Worse, the technolgy changes and USB moves past USB-C
Call my Acura dealer and they are asking for $67k. Jajaja. I wont return to this Stealership. They will impact the market and the car itself. Nowadays, with interest rates for cars around 7 to 9% for sure we will have a lot of repossessions in one or two years.
While I much prefer RWD or AWD... At least this Integra Type S has one of the best FWD setups out there between... Using a dual axis strut front suspension. One of the best mechanical Helical LSD's available. Very wide 265 mm Michelin PS4 tires... Plus, with the adjustable adaptive suspension, you can set the suspension in it's stiffest setting which helps prevent some of the weight transfer to the rear tires upon take off, versus a softer suspension that will allow more of the weight to come off the front tires. For a FWD, it's pretty darn impressive! I would definitely buy one if I were in the market. I like the Civic Type R, but I'd want to remove the rear wing... This is that car, but with more features as well. $52k+ is pretty steep for a car like this though. Freaking inflation is mainly at fault for this though. Anyway, as usual, great review of an amazing machine, Matt! Very nicely done! 👍
*Flame suit on* I keep seeing to the same comments over and over again which I think completely miss the point. 1) Not AWD. If you want AWD you have the TLX Type S which would probably fractionally more expensive than what the price would have been with a SH-AWD ITS. You're missing the point. It's supposed to be a nimble canyon carver which is able to keep up with cars double it's price in the twisties, not a 0-60 queen where you can brag how fast it accelerates from a stoplight. 2)Moonroof. I'm actually happy there isn't one. Less weight, less things to leak/fail and realistically they are useless. Next to no air comes in and if it's open, more often than not you get bad glare from the sun. Why do half measures, buy a convertible if you want the wind in your hair. 3) Value. Buy once, cry once. Don't get me wrong, F**K dealers who sell it for a dollar more than MSRP, don't buy it, but those claiming it's too expensive for what it is (at MSRP) have probably never owned a Honda/Acura. Yes they are declining from their glory years but for someone who intends to keep the car for more than warranty period, the IT-S *should* easily give you 10 years of redline fun with nothing but scheduled maintenance. With the exception of the GR Corolla, there's no other car remotely similar in nature or price point that will give you that kind of long term value.
Acura already has the SH-AWD system, just slap it on. AWD will help immensely with the handling. It will eliminate torque steer. No amount of engineering will get rid of torque steer. When a vehicle accelerates, the weight transfers to the back wheels, and the back wheels is were there is traction. The AWD will help with that. It also helps with control and safety overall. For all these benefits, I would not mind an extra 500 pounds and an extra $5,000 to the price.
GR Corollas are lighting on fire and Toyota are denying claims saying their Manual says to not exceed 85 mph regularly and using your data to deny claims
The Integra is such an iconic car, especially the GSR and Type R. I hope this new Type S is a real successor to those icons. Wish the MSRP a couple thousand dollars less.
I highly dislike most new cars coming out anymore but this is by far my favorite. The looks of this car are amazing, plenty power, nice interior, its an all around great package
I’ve had my reservation car for about a week. I got Liquid Carbon Metallic with the red interior. Already put 680 miles on it and I love this car sooo much. I went from an Elantra N to my TypeS and I think it was worth the upgrade
I test drove one of these in Atlanta. Gotta be honest I was too busy smiling to care about burbles and pops. But I’m also the guy who coded mine off in my M3 so I could be the wrong audience for burble tunes.
@@ROVA00 one has to be honest about the type of driving one does or plans to do. Here in the Southeast and particular to me where I’m traveling between the backroads of NC, SC, North GA, and TN, on roads that don’t allow for speeds in excess of ~50 mph because of grip limits or cliffs; this is as good as any other car that handles really well and is responsive in the twisty stuff to include my old 911. When the road straightens or on the highway, the M3 and anything similarly powered will prevail. Think of it as a modern variant of the old Civic Si of the 90s (the purplish one, lol). Great shifter, awesome sound, comfy enough ride, and smile inducing; yet perfect as a daily, great on gas, and suitable for all practical purposes… this one just happens to have 300hp+.
Yeah, they went ultra cheapo. No point in a 2 extra doors if your passengers are going to feel like they are in a faster Nissan Versa in back seat. No connections, no armrest....
As I was about to turn onto 79 after cars and coffee, I think I saw you on your way there and I thought to myself “I wonder if that’s Matt in a press car”…
I think a true sports car does not need a sunroof. Thats what they have roadsters for. I really never used my sun roofs or moon roofs ever. My opinion only for me. 🤷🏻♂️😂
Hey Matt always appreciate your videos and thoughts. I have a 2020 FK8. I am first in line with a deposit to a dealer that is selling it to me at MSRP. Do you think the Type S is a step up? Can you please compare the FK8 to the Type S ? I would really appreciate your input.
Congrats on finding a great dealer and being first in line! Obviously the Type S will feel pretty similar to the FK8 from a powertrain standpoint, but to me the shifter is even a little bit better, the exhaust is way cooler, and the suspension is a bit more livable, even though the refreshed FK8's comfort mode is also very good. It'll be fairly small, incremental improvements in driving dynamics. But you also get the much better infotainment system, the fantastic stereo, more comfortable seats, more sound deadening, etc. Everyone's preferences are different but I'd 100% upgrade to a Type S if I had an FK8 and had the extra money to spend on the upgrade.
Depending on the condition of your FK8 and how many miles it has, you can probably get over what you paid for it by selling and come out ahead as long as you aren't stretching to pay for the ITS at msrp.
@@dsher503I am hoping that is the case. My red Fk8 has been babied. It has 16k miles on it. The stock rims have 500 miles on them. Car has ceramic coating and never been to the Carwash. Hoping to either sale or trade it in for the Type S .
Honda did not learn anything from the rsx. When the civic Si got 200hp it was a cheaper rsx amd peole bought the Si shocker! Now the typeS is just an expensive typeR
So in the past honda sold a similar vehicle for less. Then today Honda is selling a similar vehicle for less too. I don't know what is the surprise here. Is was like this always. 🤷♂ You forgot to mention that the SI was released in 2006 the same model year that the RSX was removed from Acuras line up. Learn about the history pal.
@@Marbind oof course I should learn my history. Like the first civic Si came out in 85. There was an integra from 86 up. Now lets compare. 86 Si 1.5 12v 86 integra 1.6 dohc 16v 90 civic Si d16 90 integra b18. See the difference? Yes the honda was cheaper for less car. But lets continue. 94 Si d16 vtec 94 integra b18 vtec 99 Si b16 160hp 99 gsR b18 180hp. (See there are still differences up to that point) Then 2002 ep3 came out being essentially the same rsx base model down to the drivetrain weight ect. (see how the Si caught up to the integra? Well rsx. ) Then in 2006 the Si was going to have the the exact same numbers as the rsx even having the first sedan in Si trim(in the US but since I don't know the history I couldn't tell you that japan had Si sedan trims since the late 80s) Now to recap just in case. Yes the acura should be more expensive but should also be more car. The new base spec integra makes no sense against the civic Si. It costs more for not more substance. The typeS vs typeR is also non sense since its just a typeR with better interior and 5 more horses. Now if the typeS would of been awd even with the same power figures(it would be heavier i know) it would differentiate it self from the typeR. But hell I still need to read history I guess.
Yup check your history again. You never had been inside a current integra 1.5T 6mt right? I can tell by your statement that "it cost more for not more substance". The ITS has more than a mere 5hp. Look savagegeese mini documentary for the dyno comparison. In that video you will see that the whole purpose of this car is to bring the same CTR formula and make it more daily friendly. They did a great job. Again your history knowledge have a few holes. @@blue_lancer_es
I have a 17 FK8 and 98 ITR. I find this car a bit contradictive with the flares and crackling exhaust. Yet the car has seats that won't support you for the track and softer suspension settings compared to the FK8/FL5. As mentioned in the video, it seems the Type S was built for street use and is an exercise in maxing out the sales of this platform by reusing the the same chassis, engine, transmission, brakes, suspension etc as FK8 and FL5. I'm sure they will sell plenty. On the upside, Type S sales may lead to slighly reduced FL5 demand and increased availability.
Companies in America need to continue building turbocharged car's supercharged car's as well as naturally aspirated car's. BANN ELECTRIC CAR'S IN AMERICA
Great driving car, superb. However, both the type s and a spec are loud on the highway, noise coming from the rear. Personally, its a deal breaker for me as i will be taking this on long trios. Even only a 1 hr drive would bother me with how loud it was.
First off it’s not perfect. No sunroof, no rear vents or usb plugs and no ventilated seats. Shit is a Acura. It’s a luxury small sedan. Those things are a no brainer.
Easy choice. Just RWD or FWD. Such different driving experiences. For a fun, special car I'd take the CT4 anyday. For a daily that's 20+ thousand cheaper the Integra wins.
I agree with @dasher503. If you've got the extra $15k+ to spend on the Blackwing and can live with RWD in your area, Blackwing is the way to go. It's almost an extra 150 hp lol.
WrxFan, in my Porsche 718T, the more fun exhaust noise ends when it is in its most performance setting. Maybe the S controls the exhaust when it needs to perform for max efficiency of thrust.
Matt, curious why you think Honda is limiting production of the ITS? A dealer I have a deposit with says they are only getting an allotment of 9 cars this year. Corvette seems to be able to match production with demand for the Stingray. As a result of limiting production, all Long Island dealers are charging an ADM, but it is not as bad of the CTR's ADM
SavageGeese mentioned in their video that Honda is limiting it, I’m assuming partially because they can only build so many of these engines and Type R is the priority, and partially because they don’t want it to be too common. I don’t have any solid info on why though.
Thanks for the answer. I am getting stuck with $2500 ADM for the ITS. At least that is cheaper than any ADM I have seen on a CTR. I'm curious why you say the CTR is a priority when Honda can make $7k more on each ITS vs CTR? I think the profit margin on the ITS has to be greater.
It's not about profit for this car, it's because the Type R is sold internationally and the Integra is only sold in North America. Honda is more worried about fulfilling the huge demand globally, which is why Japan sales are prioritized for the Type R, making them scarce here in the U.S. Pulling engines from the Type R when there's way more demand for Type R than Integra would be counterintuitive for them.
This looks great!!! I'm digging this blue. I had a '94 GSR back in the day and loved it. I'm not in the market cause i have an IS500 but this is impressive. Nice review Matt I can live without the crackle and pop... it's too gimmicky to me.
@@ii_dynasty I can agree about sound but those crackles and pops are annoying to me. I just watched a video saying it's often manufactured into the car
I HATE when they do stuff like this. Buying the top of the line I should have everything they offer. Memory seats , sun roof, rear vents, ventilated seats etc smh Acura
This looks WAY cooler than a Type R
Gotta say this is a huge leap forward from the FK8 platform and a really nice deviation from the FL5. Glad to see the potential of the Integra!
Stealerships wanted 20k over the sticker price.
Only the crappy ones.
Should be illegal! Unfortunately, some people will pay it, which they then claim their mark ups are justified.
Just do your research. There are plenty of dealers who aren’t charging markups for these cars. Give them your business
@@brandonchism6960 I'm way ahead of ya. I'm thinking of waiting it out and see how it pans out.m
@@MattMaranMotoring and there are a lot of them in California unfortunately lol.
i havent this guy in love with a car this much in a long time. Nice video
Man That Blue Is Amazing!
I Love This Type S!
I know, I kept drooling over it in the driveway all week haha.
Nothing better than surveying the trusted reviewers that all comment on different stuff, nice to see you cite savagegeese, but I like that you each contribute something different to a review and purchasing decision!
Matt, thank you for the follow up. Well done! I LOVE this car. Actually, my wife and I both LOVE this car. She gave me the green light to get one :) (1) now it is time to come up with the money and (2) I hope not to get GOUGED with a huge dealer mark up :( BTW I LOVE this spec with the blue and the off white interior. I would just add those beautiful bronze rims to mine. Well done Acura. Well done.
Thanks, glad you liked the video!
Once you get it, install PPF to protect it for many years!
@@Dbrostint Agreed!
The design of the new Integra is growing on me especially with this Type S and color.
Honestly they should've revealed it with this first. I know companies reveal the base models first then the special editions. But Acura would've made a bigger splash along with not receiving hate.
@@SpinachLeafyah that yellow reveal with the Integra on the side was not enticing lol
My attainable dream car. I can't wait to get my hands on this whether it's a standard Integra Type S, if they make a PMC Edition Integra Type S, a Special Edition Integra Type S in whatever model year coming, or a Limited Edition Integra Type S however far they put more work into it, even if they add another 5-10hp and another 5-10lb-ft of tq, upgrade the suspension to some better, forged wheels, revised the gear ratios for even better shifting, etc...
You know they're saving yellow for some sort of limited edition!
Saw it in person and test drove it...probably one of the best looking cars/sedans i have ever seen...It is really flat and planted....very punchy in the mid range in 3rd gear. JUST fun! by the way its way more planted than the cadillac V which I test drove as well...not even close!
Reviewers always compare the Integra to Hyundai but there is no comparison when it comes to reliability whether it's compared to Audi, Mercedes, or now Cadillac. Long term reliability and maintenance costs far exceed what you'd get in a Honda and as an actual owner, that cost matters.
I know the FWD is really good at handling on these but I still wish they were AWD just to give it a little bit of difference between the CTR
AWD would be wishful thinking as the Integra/Civic platform wasn't designed for SH-AWD. However, the 10-speed automatic from the TLX Type S would've been reasonable. We know that transmission can pair with the CTR-related 2.0T from the TLX A-spec/prior Accord, and it can handle at least 355 hp/354 lb-ft from the TLX Type S. Perhaps Acura has that in the works?
@@TheBreakfastLover i dont think the 10at would fit in the type R subframe, not especially with the R specific front suspension. also honda doesnt have an lsd for the automatic
@@ShaiyanHossain good point 👍
Ever since I saw the first release videos of this car, I wanted it. Went to Acura of Fremont, but none available to drive. Drove a TLX A-Spec and really enjoyed it. Might go back to drive that Type S while I wait to drive an ITS. I think Acura is making great cars for the money. Looks are subjective, and to each his own, but the ITS and TLX S are good looking cars to me. As an aside, drove a Lexus IS350 FS at the dealer next door. Not a fan. Salesman sat in the car with me. Automatic negative. Acura guy just gave me the keys and said enjoy - the way it should be.
I want this car in white and dealership in Toronto want a $2000 dollars deposit to secure one and over here starting price is $55600.0 dollars.Great review Matt.👍🏼👊🏼
That is pretty cheap when covered to USD.
Another great review Matt!
I'm surprised you shouted out savagegeese after they dogged you in that one video years ago
We’ve both changed a lot since those days. I’m thankful to say I’ve had a lot of great times hanging out with Mark and Jack on events, they’re awesome.
@@MattMaranMotoring that's actually extremely wholesome and mature, I appreciate that
Great car , absolutely astonishing ❤ but it is fwd ,that's why I chose wrx
I used to own Subarus and sadly was very disappointed by their reliability. Two OEM engines were killed by factory defects. I also don’t really like the looks of the wrx . But yes I wish the integra was Awd
13:02 you here the pops… my type S makes pops all over the place.
That was the wind blowing. lol
There's a blue one just like this for MSRP where I live.
Still would personally prefer it to have been AWD, there’s not much that differentiates this from the Type R since the Type R is already a nice car inside and out.
It would be much heavier and would need more Hp to feel as quick, and that’s would also mean much more expensive. If I’m going to spend $70k on a 4 banger it would be an AMG
I'll take the look over the new hondas sedans & that blue is nice
ITS looks so much better than the CTR.
Did you experience any dash rattles during your test?
Do you think the limited production number has anything to do with the bad reception that this generation of Integra has gotten in general?
Can you elaborate on what’s considered ‘bad reception’ that follows this model/Gen. Be specific.
@@R.P.Enobody likes that it’s not a coupe
@@R.P.E A lot of youtubers, such as ThatDudeinBlue do not like the Integra. They have not personally test-driven them to see if it's as bad as they say, but because these youtubers are pretty popular, people just take their word for it.
Definitely not. The Integra is selling really well and is a huge hit with the buying public, it’s just that Honda doesn’t want the Type S being produced in high numbers.
According to Matt Farrah from the Smoking Tire, they have the capacity to double the output of the CTR. While that’s not crazy numbers, it’s a far cry from limited . The demand is just nuts right now. One dealer in Atlanta has a list of 80 buyers with an initial allocation of 10 cars. They have the highest allocation numbers I’ve seen in GA, AL, TN, SC, and NC. But they aren’t charging over sticker so people are lining up to buy from them.
How much more is a M340i again?
Comparably equipped to this with RWD it's $11k more.
What about compared to tlx?
Totally different missions and driving experiences. Want a bigger, heavier luxury cruiser that's still sporty? That's the TLX. If you want more engagement, a smaller, lighter, more nimble car, then the Integra is miles better.
@@MattMaranMotoring Matt, I agree with the above. However, at similar price points (after dealer mark-up) what's your advice, purely from an ~ equal spend? Thanks.
If you paid over sticker on the fl5... You effed up lol this ITS is perfect at around 50k
Whats up with that seat color? Doesnt match the car at all
This car is much better looking than type R. Looking at this you know it's type S, when I look at the regural civic I don't know if it's a type R or regural civic until I see wing or brembos. But then again it's Honda not an Audi
💙💙💙
I would put the Type r wing on this lol
Are power folding mirrors and an auto dimming mirror included?
No power folding mirrors but auto dimming mirror is included.
Once Matt posts, that means an embargo is down.
Unfortunately I wasn't on the first drive for this car, so I missed the embargo by a couple weeks :)
Was that a recently milled road or is the noise isolation really that terrible on these cars? Wow it's awful.
i think i saw you at the hot dog shoppe in cranberry?
Wasn't me, I haven't been there in at least 4 years haha. Good hot dogs though!
Dont need a sunroof but no rear arm rests or cupholders? That's why even in the 1990s my mom got a Nissan Maxima instead. Smh
It has cupholders in the rear.
why don't they increase production numbers when people are lining up to buy this car. I plan to get a 2024 model in 2027, but I am afraid they will just be a collectors item since they are not making that many.
I would like to do the same thing. Just concerned it will be like the CTR and still wont sell much below MSRP with 3 years of age on it.
Because they don't care about selling these in high volumes. The Type R demand is much higher since it's sold globally, so the focus for engine production is those. The Type S is just a fun side project for Acura.
What are the negative thoughts
Interior compromises and an exhaust that could still be a tad louder.
it's a civic
its pretty slow. I had 335i in 2010 which was cheaper and faster
A week later! I sure hope so.
This is the first review I've seen that mentions lack of rear USB. WTF?? It's an acura!!
How many people charge their phones in the back seat of a manual shifting car? I have never had someone on my car use them. Worse, the technolgy changes and USB moves past USB-C
@@briangasser973 Try making some friends.
Call my Acura dealer and they are asking for $67k. Jajaja. I wont return to this Stealership. They will impact the market and the car itself. Nowadays, with interest rates for cars around 7 to 9% for sure we will have a lot of repossessions in one or two years.
It’s a shame with Acura and Infiniti interior trims are still pour quality for a luxury brand. Unlike Hyundai with Genesis
neat car... $50K??? Hard pass....
My $40k Scat Pack Charger will destroy that thing, and sounds way better. Only 310hp for $55k? No thanks
Ok
I bet you still rock the splitter guards
Model 3 Performance even better unless you need sound, the Hemis are nice though. Had a Jeep SRT and Trackhawk, now a Ram 5.7.
😂 lol
Lol, in what? A straight line? So cool. Also, can you drive a stick shift?
While I much prefer RWD or AWD... At least this Integra Type S has one of the best FWD setups out there between... Using a dual axis strut front suspension. One of the best mechanical Helical LSD's available. Very wide 265 mm Michelin PS4 tires... Plus, with the adjustable adaptive suspension, you can set the suspension in it's stiffest setting which helps prevent some of the weight transfer to the rear tires upon take off, versus a softer suspension that will allow more of the weight to come off the front tires. For a FWD, it's pretty darn impressive! I would definitely buy one if I were in the market. I like the Civic Type R, but I'd want to remove the rear wing... This is that car, but with more features as well. $52k+ is pretty steep for a car like this though. Freaking inflation is mainly at fault for this though. Anyway, as usual, great review of an amazing machine, Matt! Very nicely done! 👍
“Unfortunately, no crackles and pops” immediately crackles and pops
*Flame suit on* I keep seeing to the same comments over and over again which I think completely miss the point.
1) Not AWD. If you want AWD you have the TLX Type S which would probably fractionally more expensive than what the price would have been with a SH-AWD ITS. You're missing the point. It's supposed to be a nimble canyon carver which is able to keep up with cars double it's price in the twisties, not a 0-60 queen where you can brag how fast it accelerates from a stoplight.
2)Moonroof. I'm actually happy there isn't one. Less weight, less things to leak/fail and realistically they are useless. Next to no air comes in and if it's open, more often than not you get bad glare from the sun. Why do half measures, buy a convertible if you want the wind in your hair.
3) Value. Buy once, cry once. Don't get me wrong, F**K dealers who sell it for a dollar more than MSRP, don't buy it, but those claiming it's too expensive for what it is (at MSRP) have probably never owned a Honda/Acura. Yes they are declining from their glory years but for someone who intends to keep the car for more than warranty period, the IT-S *should* easily give you 10 years of redline fun with nothing but scheduled maintenance. With the exception of the GR Corolla, there's no other car remotely similar in nature or price point that will give you that kind of long term value.
AMEN !!!!
Preach !!!
Acura already has the SH-AWD system, just slap it on. AWD will help immensely with the handling. It will eliminate torque steer. No amount of engineering will get rid of torque steer. When a vehicle accelerates, the weight transfers to the back wheels, and the back wheels is were there is traction. The AWD will help with that. It also helps with control and safety overall. For all these benefits, I would not mind an extra 500 pounds and an extra $5,000 to the price.
GR Corollas are lighting on fire and Toyota are denying claims saying their Manual says to not exceed 85 mph regularly and using your data to deny claims
Completely unexpected but this thing is sexy af! Honda killed it
this is one of the nicest looking cars in this decade
The Integra is such an iconic car, especially the GSR and Type R. I hope this new Type S is a real successor to those icons. Wish the MSRP a couple thousand dollars less.
Good luck getting it at MSRP
I haven't checked on price mark ups yet. Have you heard anything?
@@briangasser973I got mine at msrp in California.
What dealer did you get it from? On the Integra Forums, Califorians seemed to be getting the most hosed with ADMs.
@@briangasser973these can be found at MSRP all over the country
I highly dislike most new cars coming out anymore but this is by far my favorite. The looks of this car are amazing, plenty power, nice interior, its an all around great package
I ran out of favorite cars (as a car dude myself) until this baby right here came out. I’m not interested in getting any other car
I’ve had my reservation car for about a week. I got Liquid Carbon Metallic with the red interior. Already put 680 miles on it and I love this car sooo much. I went from an Elantra N to my TypeS and I think it was worth the upgrade
Congrats on getting one and thanks for sharing your ownership experience so far!
Respect your decision, but do you honestly think it’s $35k better? It’s basically double the price, at least in New York dealerships it is.
@@axe2grind244 It's $18k difference in Canada and for me it's worth it. Much better quality and better performance(6mt vs 6mt).
congrats
I test drove one of these in Atlanta. Gotta be honest I was too busy smiling to care about burbles and pops. But I’m also the guy who coded mine off in my M3 so I could be the wrong audience for burble tunes.
I'm with you, run silent, run deep! 2019 Type R here.
Does it compare at all to the m3 in overall street performance and comfort?
@@ROVA00 one has to be honest about the type of driving one does or plans to do. Here in the Southeast and particular to me where I’m traveling between the backroads of NC, SC, North GA, and TN, on roads that don’t allow for speeds in excess of ~50 mph because of grip limits or cliffs; this is as good as any other car that handles really well and is responsive in the twisty stuff to include my old 911. When the road straightens or on the highway, the M3 and anything similarly powered will prevail. Think of it as a modern variant of the old Civic Si of the 90s (the purplish one, lol). Great shifter, awesome sound, comfy enough ride, and smile inducing; yet perfect as a daily, great on gas, and suitable for all practical purposes… this one just happens to have 300hp+.
I wish you could get the red interior with the blue exterior
Throw in a moonroof and cool seats to make that 52k price tag a lil' easier to swallow...
and A/C rear vents, USB connections, and armrests in the backseat. Otherwise, it feels like a $10K car.
Yeah, they went ultra cheapo. No point in a 2 extra doors if your passengers are going to feel like they are in a faster Nissan Versa in back seat. No connections, no armrest....
Dream car for sure. Great review!
Thanks!
Looks great BUT It’ll be over priced + adm’s, it sounds poop & the dash looks cheap
As I was about to turn onto 79 after cars and coffee, I think I saw you on your way there and I thought to myself “I wonder if that’s Matt in a press car”…
Haha nice!
7:06 -- clank.
The car needs to be broken in. Maybe by the first oil change, you be hearing more of the pops and cracklings.
Almost 1st!
Looks awesome in that color.
Definitely a dream car rn , matt farah said it was perfect for crying out loud he never says that so you know it’s good 😂👍
I think a true sports car does not need a sunroof. Thats what they have roadsters for. I really never used my sun roofs or moon roofs ever. My opinion only for me. 🤷🏻♂️😂
FWD and extra 2 doors would never be considered a sports car anyway.
Yeah 🎉
Hey Matt always appreciate your videos and thoughts. I have a 2020 FK8. I am first in line with a deposit to a dealer that is selling it to me at MSRP. Do you think the Type S is a step up? Can you please compare the FK8 to the Type S ? I would really appreciate your input.
Has more power and torque, better interior, better styling. What's not to like?
At MSRP "YES "
Congrats on finding a great dealer and being first in line! Obviously the Type S will feel pretty similar to the FK8 from a powertrain standpoint, but to me the shifter is even a little bit better, the exhaust is way cooler, and the suspension is a bit more livable, even though the refreshed FK8's comfort mode is also very good. It'll be fairly small, incremental improvements in driving dynamics. But you also get the much better infotainment system, the fantastic stereo, more comfortable seats, more sound deadening, etc. Everyone's preferences are different but I'd 100% upgrade to a Type S if I had an FK8 and had the extra money to spend on the upgrade.
Depending on the condition of your FK8 and how many miles it has, you can probably get over what you paid for it by selling and come out ahead as long as you aren't stretching to pay for the ITS at msrp.
@@dsher503I am hoping that is the case. My red Fk8 has been babied. It has 16k miles on it. The stock rims have 500 miles on them. Car has ceramic coating and never been to the Carwash. Hoping to either sale or trade it in for the Type S .
Awesome Review! I can't wait until you drive a Type R for a week!
Thanks! Hopefully that'll happen soon!
Honda did not learn anything from the rsx. When the civic Si got 200hp it was a cheaper rsx amd peole bought the Si shocker! Now the typeS is just an expensive typeR
So in the past honda sold a similar vehicle for less.
Then today Honda is selling a similar vehicle for less too.
I don't know what is the surprise here. Is was like this always. 🤷♂
You forgot to mention that the SI was released in 2006 the same model year that the RSX was removed from Acuras line up.
Learn about the history pal.
@@Marbind oof course I should learn my history. Like the first civic Si came out in 85. There was an integra from 86 up. Now lets compare.
86 Si 1.5 12v 86 integra 1.6 dohc 16v
90 civic Si d16 90 integra b18.
See the difference? Yes the honda was cheaper for less car. But lets continue.
94 Si d16 vtec 94 integra b18 vtec
99 Si b16 160hp 99 gsR b18 180hp. (See there are still differences up to that point)
Then 2002 ep3 came out being essentially the same rsx base model down to the drivetrain weight ect. (see how the Si caught up to the integra? Well rsx. )
Then in 2006 the Si was going to have the the exact same numbers as the rsx even having the first sedan in Si trim(in the US but since I don't know the history I couldn't tell you that japan had Si sedan trims since the late 80s)
Now to recap just in case. Yes the acura should be more expensive but should also be more car. The new base spec integra makes no sense against the civic Si. It costs more for not more substance. The typeS vs typeR is also non sense since its just a typeR with better interior and 5 more horses.
Now if the typeS would of been awd even with the same power figures(it would be heavier i know) it would differentiate it self from the typeR.
But hell I still need to read history I guess.
Yup check your history again.
You never had been inside a current integra 1.5T 6mt right?
I can tell by your statement that "it cost more for not more substance".
The ITS has more than a mere 5hp. Look savagegeese mini documentary for the dyno comparison. In that video you will see that the whole purpose of this car is to bring the same CTR formula and make it more daily friendly. They did a great job.
Again your history knowledge have a few holes.
@@blue_lancer_es
My Elite a spec Canada version is awesome and my type s is awesome
You want crackles and pops? Get an Elantra N.
Im glad it Doesnt sound like a popcorn machine... If any of my cars did that , I;d be tuning that racket Out of the exhaust note.. to each his own.
I have a 17 FK8 and 98 ITR. I find this car a bit contradictive with the flares and crackling exhaust. Yet the car has seats that won't support you for the track and softer suspension settings compared to the FK8/FL5. As mentioned in the video, it seems the Type S was built for street use and is an exercise in maxing out the sales of this platform by reusing the the same chassis, engine, transmission, brakes, suspension etc as FK8 and FL5. I'm sure they will sell plenty. On the upside, Type S sales may lead to slighly reduced FL5 demand and increased availability.
Dick, u know u like it! Just pony up the funds and enjoy one!!!
Companies in America need to continue building turbocharged car's supercharged car's as well as naturally aspirated car's.
BANN ELECTRIC CAR'S IN AMERICA
This drive .really put a smile on your face Matt. 👍
Just got mine In liquid carbon metallic I fucking love it 54k out the door worth every fucking penny
Low rent back seat action. Dash action is fairly basic. Should cost about $42,500 tops. Otherwise fantastic!
Great driving car, superb. However, both the type s and a spec are loud on the highway, noise coming from the rear. Personally, its a deal breaker for me as i will be taking this on long trios. Even only a 1 hr drive would bother me with how loud it was.
Yeah, sounds like you want a Mercedes or Lexus
You could get sound deadening applied for a few hundred back there?
Or use that great stereo
is the MDX type S as fast as this car?
First off it’s not perfect. No sunroof, no rear vents or usb plugs and no ventilated seats. Shit is a Acura. It’s a luxury small sedan. Those things are a no brainer.
I definitely would take one of those over the civic type R if I had the money to blow! 🚗
Honda / Acura, give us a small car big engine, instead of big car and small engine, or stuff that engine into a CRV
not bad maggorn PT....not bad maggiegornT......not bad magg.....
Umm NO! We HATE sunroof/moonroof!! Only for Caucasians!!!
Your face is really exaggerated when stepping on it! It really isn't that fast!😅
Which would you rather own? This or CT4 Blackwing?
Easy choice. Just RWD or FWD. Such different driving experiences. For a fun, special car I'd take the CT4 anyday. For a daily that's 20+ thousand cheaper the Integra wins.
I agree with @dasher503. If you've got the extra $15k+ to spend on the Blackwing and can live with RWD in your area, Blackwing is the way to go. It's almost an extra 150 hp lol.
Definitely the Type S. Not even close
WrxFan, in my Porsche 718T, the more fun exhaust noise ends when it is in its most performance setting. Maybe the S controls the exhaust when it needs to perform for max efficiency of thrust.
Yeah that's probably part of it since the crackles only happened when I wasn't full throttle or high rpms.
Maybe 40k tops for this car anything more is ridiculous
I think you might have to go to the doctor to get your hearing checked 👍🏻
The crackling and popping is computer programmed.
Those cup holders in the back are more like testicle holders
Good luck getting one please and shit is marked up 15k
maaaaaaaaan this car is gorgeous
Pops and bangs are lame, glad it’s more tame than you thought.
The Integra that Acura should have made the 1st time around...
oh hell no. The original Integra was amazing.
Pretty sure he's talking about a year or so ago when they re-released the name plate.
Matt, curious why you think Honda is limiting production of the ITS? A dealer I have a deposit with says they are only getting an allotment of 9 cars this year. Corvette seems to be able to match production with demand for the Stingray. As a result of limiting production, all Long Island dealers are charging an ADM, but it is not as bad of the CTR's ADM
SavageGeese mentioned in their video that Honda is limiting it, I’m assuming partially because they can only build so many of these engines and Type R is the priority, and partially because they don’t want it to be too common. I don’t have any solid info on why though.
Thanks for the answer. I am getting stuck with $2500 ADM for the ITS. At least that is cheaper than any ADM I have seen on a CTR. I'm curious why you say the CTR is a priority when Honda can make $7k more on each ITS vs CTR? I think the profit margin on the ITS has to be greater.
It's not about profit for this car, it's because the Type R is sold internationally and the Integra is only sold in North America. Honda is more worried about fulfilling the huge demand globally, which is why Japan sales are prioritized for the Type R, making them scarce here in the U.S. Pulling engines from the Type R when there's way more demand for Type R than Integra would be counterintuitive for them.
Overpriced
This looks great!!! I'm digging this blue. I had a '94 GSR back in the day and loved it. I'm not in the market cause i have an IS500 but this is impressive. Nice review Matt
I can live without the crackle and pop... it's too gimmicky to me.
Having a dead silent performance car is a no.
@@ii_dynasty I can agree about sound but those crackles and pops are annoying to me.
I just watched a video saying it's often manufactured into the car
@@timw2083it really is the dumbest trend in cars since cambered wheels
Very cool looking car
Sunroof is a MUST for any Acura over $50k. Rear center seat is messed up too lol.
I HATE when they do stuff like this. Buying the top of the line I should have everything they offer. Memory seats , sun roof, rear vents, ventilated seats etc smh Acura
They’ll add these features at mid cycle refresh, hike $ another 5-10%, and shoot themselves in the foot with abysmal sales…again! 😆
@@alphabeta8403 🤣🤣🤣 I see NO lies told smh lol
Sunroof just add weight and reduce body rigity. Get the ASpec instead.
65K HARD NO
i am american