NEW Mercedes-AMG C63 S vs BMW M3 vs Audi RS4 | Why hybrid’s spoiled the AMG C63
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- #C63 #M3 #RS4
Mercedes-AMG has launched its new C63 S E Performance to a flurry of controversy. Going from eight-cylinders to four and packing it with electric assistance was always going to be a bold move, but how does it stack up in the real world against its closest rivals. Ben Barry drives the C63 S E Performance Estate, M3 Touring and RS4 Avant to find out.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
2:23 - Merc-AMG C63 S E Performance Estate
12:07 - BMW M3 Touring
19:38 - Audi RS4 Avant
26:08 - Verdict
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Which would you choose?
C63 S, M3 or RS4?
RS4 all day everyday
M3
M3 with a manual. Edit: didn't realize these were all wagons
M3
M3
That 4cyl hybrid Merc is just depressing. What were they thinking.
What are EU gouvernements thinking…
An “electrically assisted turbo” sounds suspiciously like a hairdryer.
@@wltdo6930 LOL net zero. Can I have what you're smoking. That will not happen. Mining for batteries is far more environmentally unfriendly than fossil fuels.
@@wltdo6930 we don't need to get to net zero.
It wasnt by choice from Merc or fans. They were forced to do this by the government.
So the AMG uses MORE fuel than the non-hybrid BMW. They’ve absolutely ruined it … for nothing. Baffling
wokeium.
EU goal is to end ice production and in fact to destroy the economy of Europe.
Look up EU beyond growth and the Degrowth green agenda.
You won't believe it.
Yep it is shocking 😲 my nearly 20 year old 5.4L C55 V8 estate will get 30-33 UK mpg on a highway run vs what 40 mpg from this 2L 4 pot??
They didn't use electric mode.
@@Bahamuttiamat vomit
If Merc thinks brand loyalty is enough to keep the c63 going, they are sorely misinformed
Brand loyals will just buy a used E63
I agree considering the options from the competition these days.
@thabo9218 A used w204 c63 amg I'd say 😉
They will find out soon...
I’ve been a fan of C-Class AMGs since my first C32. There is absolutely no way I would ever buy the current C63. There is so much talent in the AMG back catalogue, for better value, which sound like real cars, with less annoying tech. I like to drive cars rather than play them like a computer game.
Absolutely Nobody: “I love the 503 bhp V8 in my C63 but it would be better if it were a 4-cylinder plug-in hybrid to save the environment”.
Actually worse for the environment
If you really want to save the environment, keep the V8 and don’t have kids!
@@mikehagmaier3949not having kids is idiotic. Who are we saving the planet for if you don't have kids?
Climate change is bollocks.
Gayyyy
@@mikehagmaier3949 👏
Good grief. What were Mercedes thinking? Owner of 3 V8 C63s, now in an M3 and eagerly awaiting my new M3 CS.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
M3 CS I think might be better than the M4 CSL. If I would have money for a second car, the M3 CS would be high on my list. Though in our country it probably is way over 200k eur new.
@@peterhammer6915 Agreed. The M3CS is both limited and expensive. Not sure if the standard M3 Competition's daily usability will be stripped away too much. I hope not.
Yes i love my 16 Bugattis , 15 amg ones and 25 gt3rs as much as u love ur cars
MB should have tried a 6 cylinder hybrid not a 4. It’s just too much changing from a V8. The main reason someone got the C63 was the V8 so I really don’t understand why they went with a 4 cylinder.
Good shout!
Yup and they already have this in the 53 series cars
@@boogboog8097 the new E63 is doing that. I don’t get why they didn’t go the same route. It’s like MB doesn’t understand what we like.
because they design 206 chassis to fit only 4 cylinder, which is a shame really
That stupid controllers are mostly the reason
So Mercedes have removed the one advantage the C63 had over an M3/M4 - the nicer engine. Smart move if their aim is to sell less.
The M3 Touring killed off the RSx division, the Merc killed itself off 😅
The new RS4 due next year will be interesting. They will definitely do a better job of hybridisation than Merc imo with the vast knowledge learnt from Endurance racing.
I’m in the market for a fast estate and that M3 is way too fugly to consider; the interior is also substandard. As an everyday most seem to agree the Audi is the nicer place to be if you cast aside top trumps stats.
@@mred9161 most? Audi fanboys? The M3 interior is levels above the Audi
@@PixelVogue apart from the main display screen which isn't anywhere near as good as Audi's Virtual Cockpit..And every journo in the business will totally agree...
I don't think the M3 has killed the RS4, RS will always have it's market, but the M3 has definitely taken some sales away from Audi. Looks wise the M3 is ultra aggressive, love the looks. The RS also looks very good
I'm really interested to see how the Merc sells. It seems like such a blatant cock-up ditching the V8 - which is what attracted AMG clientele - to a grim 4 cyl hybrid unit, while adding more weight to rub more salt into the wound.
BMW are laughing all the way to the bank with the new M3. Its ugly, but it still maintains the good stuff which its customers like.
I think it will sell (in absence of anything else in Merc stable) but lesser than previous model.
The performance of the m3 more than makes up for its ugliness. I think people are also growing used to the looks, which will help its case.
Well remember Porsche did the same with the Boxster/Cayman. We saw how that went although I think Porsche buyers are more hard-core. Seem like most Mercedes owners buy the cars for status more than anything. The three pointed star flex.
@@pherron7471 Who the hell would flex with a small peasant engine
@@pherron7471 flex😂😂😂 not sure, Mercedes Benz is a regular car, what flex are you talking about???
What they didn't mention in the video (that they mentioned in the magazine article) is that they ran the 0-100km/hr times (0-62mph) and the C63Se did 3.4sec (as MB says), but the M3 did 3.3sec (under the 3.6sec advertised time) and the RS4 did 3.7 (under the 3.9 sec advertised time)
carwow done 3.0 seconds flat in the c63se
@@alihulk4021 Downhill
@@andreus6865 whatever it is, it is quick, but im no fan of it. That original 6.3l aspirated engine could be heard from 3 blocks away. That was a piece of engineering.
As current W205 C63 owner I don't really care about the 0.x sec time difference, I care about the V8 rumble from 1500rpm
@@fatdoi003 I honestly wish the M3 sounded anywhere near as good as the current V8 W205 C63
For anyone interested in where the scenes of the m3 and c63 were shot: Sudelfeldpass Bavaria
Before I went to order the BMW M3 Competition Touring I also configured the new C63s with typically comparable options. On the Merc I cam out 30.000€ more then with the M3... I also sure that the M3 will keep much better its Price Levels when getting old where as the Merc will be at 50% of its value just after 3 Years due to the Hybrid stuff... after 5 Years probably not sellable anymore. I desperately wanted to buy the Merc as I love this F1 type of technologies but my guts said NoNoNo get the M3 instead....
Well, here in the UK, I went all out on the Merc (with MANUFAKTUR graphite grey magno paint) and got £102,290 OTR price, Also went all out on the m3 (with visibility pack, carbon pack and Pro pack) and got 111,085 OTR. The M3 offers more granular and personalized configuration and is the better car. I totally agree its value will hold for 3-5 years.
I really think some of these generation M cars will rather appreciate in a long run. 20-30 years from now this M3 will cost much more than today since everything on the street will be EVs, but petrol enthusiasts will always exist
@@oleg274 🤣🤣🤦 the issue will be very little dino juice to run them. Ignoring all the enviromental effects oil is just going to run out and it'll cause wars unless the reliance on it is reduced or we can make it go further. Engine downsizing is one way of doing that. Going to have to start somewhere.
The irony is the idiotic chase for 500+bhp over the last decade to 15 years has made cars heavier and more inefficient. Lighter, cleverer materials actually innovating smaller ICE engines would have made this inevitability around V6 and V8 engines getting binned less of an issue.
It’s an ABSOLUTE DISASTER. What the hell were they thinking?!
Yes 0 to 60 in 3 seconds. What the hell were they thinking? Shame on them!
@@softroseforyou7457 thats slow for 63s with hybrid. If they gonna mess about with the hybrid, make sure it is actually fun to drive. I've seen other channels say more positive things about the plaid than this car lol.
@@softroseforyou7457 0-60 in 2 second and then wake me up.
There can only be one King and that’s the M3 and I’m getting one in about 3-4 weeks🙏🏻😇
congrats!!
you made the right choice 😂
i have driven all the cars in this vid. C63 is dead, RS4 is cool and quick but that M3 is the king. picking up mine shortly, fully loaded Comp in isle of man green.
The M3 remains the benchmark, the AMG's futuristic drive train has done more damage to this car's heritage and image. For all the effort at AMG, the BMW is faster. The Audi is somewhat sublime in a way that it's not trying to make a statement, still a punchy piece of kit though, don't underestimate RS badge.
Even if Audi has 60hp less it is almost as fast as them and that’s impressive so imagine if it had 510hp, it would be the fastest
@@mrbartek3122 It's also the lightest, not the mention the m3 is faster than the rs6
@@blazesmooth5573 no one cares about regular rs6, THE rs6 is the new performance version which is faster than m5 comp. Remember Audi with the same amount of power is faster and that is it.
@@mrbartek3122 Who told you the new RS6 is faster? It has the same 1/4th mile and a slower roll, lower to speed and worse handling. Watch any rolling race between the new RS6 and the BMW M5 comp and the RS6 gets dusted, you don't actually believe it's faster do you?
Well I tested my M240i stage 1 about 415 hp against a RS6 on a straight from 100- 200 kph and just believe me that RS had big Trouble loosin to a "cheap" m240i compared to the RS wagon benchmark
Is the C63 the most disappointing performance car of 2023?
100%
100%
The only reason why you might want to buy the new ‘C63’ is because it’s going to be a very, VERY rare car🙊😂😂😂
The AMG One and this seem to have real issues with powertrains. Overcomplicated, excessively heavy and dead. After 10seconds you are stuck with a 4 cylinder on a 2300kg+ car. Id take the other two in a heartbeat over the “AMG”
GayMG 😂
No one has ever bought a C63 because of good gas mileage or environmental concerns either. This thing is a dud
400kg heavier than the Audi! Manufacturers are making these cars easier to drive fast in a world where driving fast is increasingly not a thing that is easy to do or considered socially acceptable. A good noise is a substitute for speed.
No no no. I always prefer speed and handling blame incompetent drivers buying ou tunnin cars to a level, that cannot drive
100% true. 400hp on the road is already plenty to get you in trouble if you press on. A good noise from a V8 is what allows one to enjoy an AMG at any speed
@@KingofInternseven my 68hp econobox can do 100mph lol
M3T was destined to be the winner from the start. BMW's engineers knew that it would be now or never to make an M3 Touring. The M3 is the best in class already, making an estate version just brings in that extra level of emotion. RS4 has always been the sensible choice and it has held up really well against the competition. I would definitely consider an RS4 for daily driving duties along the Autobahn.
The C63Se on the other hand is a majot letdown and disappointment. The car as clearly said in the review is unfinished. I love the way the new C class looks and it would have been a great car if AMG developed the 6 cylinder engine from the E53. At least the emotional element will still be there and the car would feel more special to drive. Instead, they take the 4 cylinder already developed for A45s and throw that into the C63 thinking that giving it nearly 700 horsepower will not make owners care.
The C63 was never great dynamically. What was attractive about it was the engine and how the car made people feel. The C63 now has lost its main appeal. What's more, values of hybrids are gonna drop through the roof, especially on a car that only has 8 miles of range.
What a missed oppertunity. I think Mercedes know it
Only too bad the M3 looks like sh*t.
Excellent and beautifully produced comparison by Car magazine. Ben Barry is a really good motoring journalist. The M3 Touring just feels so special, in a way that the overcomplicated C 63 S doesn't. V8 to V4, 1.8 tonnes to 2.2 tonnes, is not progress in my book.
And the power delivery lasts for 10 seconds😂😂😂😂 what a bum of a car!! This means you cant launch this car over and over and over because it will not deliver full power🙄🙄🙄
Straight 4, not V4 :)
@@hellospaceman whatever dumpster engine man!
@@hellospaceman Quite right. Thank you.
50 % of having a car is it looks. So the M3 can only score 50/100.
I like the BMWs design it has so much presence when you see it in person or in car if theres anything like that. I know that a lot of people do not like the grills of the M3 and M4 but for me they've nailed it and it looks even better on this M3 touring. I'd choose the M3 Touring than its competitors.
Nah it looks weird. They should have kept DCT and kidney grills. Other than that it looks great, nice wide hips
@@yanzi1957 as an m3 owner i get so many compliments on the car. guess most people like the grill.
M3 is extremely gorgeous
If you don't have eyes and/or style, it's the right car.
@@mediocreman2 lol what a funny joke🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That RS4 is a masterpiece! Not because it has the latest tech, but just because all parts play so well together, it's incredible. I would even says it's the most emotional car in class, also built quality is amongst the best in its class. So overall this is the car the petrolheads will choose!
audis problem is the chronic understeer, which unfortunately is there at least in a normal non-comp RS4. They just dont seem to get rid of that. So me as a petrolhead choose the M3.
@automann-TV was für ein Käse! Der RS4 ist der bessere daily und der V6 frisst den R6 aus dem M3 in der Mitte des Drehzahlbandes, aber alles andere macht der S58 besser als der 2.9 V6 … und ja ich hab beide. Einen als Firmenwagen, den anderen privat.
an understeering car as most emotional is laughable but alr
RIP Mercedes AMG
The C63 looks odd with it's wide front and narrow rear fenders.
The S58 is the stuff of dreams
Good grief, Mercedes has a lot of work to do on that C63. As always, Ben Barry's dynamic impressions of the cars are top notch. Excellent vid.
4 CYLINDER? DAMN MERC BUILT A PEASANT CAR!
Imagine buying this over the M3 Touring.
That would be WIIILD
isn’t the M3 faster anyway? 😭
Too bad there is not a Giulia Quadrifoglio Sportwagon!
Its dead no? I thought they stopped production.
@@augustortiz I don't think so.
It is very outdated and dead by now.
@@hassanger8128 outdated by what? 4 cyl Mercs?
2110kg in a car that size is unacceptable
Mercedes-Benz suffers from self-sabotage disorder. They had an opportunity to at least use a V6 or 5 cylinder with the hybrid.
Fire everyone at Mercedes starting from the top. Kallenius, Schafer, the two AMG heads.
Holly crap that Merc weights!!! My S65 Long version weights 2200kg, and this thing is just 85kg less, with a V4 and shorter length.... No thank you AMG, you keep that brick!!!!
The V4 will beat your S65 and leave you in the dust. SMH LOL
If Mercedes were smart they would have developed a 5 cylinder for the C63. If they feel compelled to downsize massively at the very least a five banger would have allowed them to retain a worthy exhaust note and a sense of specialness to the drivetrain. Four cylinders are just ubiquitous and mundane. They don't sound good, they aren't exciting enough for the segment, regardless of how much power they make.
Why a 5? Yes, they sound interesting, but are inherently complex (balance shafts) with odd vibrational tendencies. Mercedes already has a lovely inline-6 that was showcased in the CLS53.
The thing is, mercedes do know how to make a good 4 cylinder engine. They have done it well in the first generation of 45 AMGs. Not sure why this C63 sounds so bad even compared to the A45S, which didn't sound great from the factory mainly due to its OPF
Those BMW straight six are legendary,
And the new ones can be mapped to 700hp
without a problem,
It looks like BMW combustion engine will go away with a flourish!
from amg to omg
If in 2015 someone told me in 8 years the c63 will get the A45 engine i would laugh, now i am crying ...
I have loved AMG since childhood, those big V8s, sometimes with another 4 banger "bolted" ontop making those gorgeous V12s. AMG is the reason I've been working hard my whole adulthood, working to achieve my goal of being an AMG owner by the time I'm 30 years old.
March 2020 was the month I took ownership of my very own S205 C63s, one of the best moments in my life. I could finally be behind the wheel of my childhood dream, enjoy that glorious V8 rumble and roar. I did not care my three pointed star was posting slower laptimes than my friends M cars, because every time I fired up those 8 cynlinders all my worries in life went away. In that moment, it was just me, the open road and that beast of a V8.
No matter what people believe, from my own experience, that V8 alone makes the car. My girlfriend who cares less than 0 about cars knows that V8 rumble is special, friends with no car interests keep pointing out a family estate couldn't possibly make those kind of sounds.
AMG said they didn't build the new C63s E because they had to, but rather to show the world they could. Then I have to argue that just because you can, doesn't mean you should. What is AMG without a V8? How can AMG stand out and inspire a new generation of car enthusiasts when it has lost it's heritage? Who is this car for?
I want to own more AMG cars in the future, the question is, will there be any AMG in the future that I want to own?
Amg is the only German with special sounding v8s. Other than that,nah
Amg is the only German with special sounding v8s. Other than that,nah
Great reviews thanks. Good to hear the Audi has decent steering! Mercedes, engineering for engineering's sake. BMW - that's how do do it!
Its would have been better if Mercedes went with its inline six tubro featured in the the gle 53 and added a mile hybrid system
Has no one driven the a45s? That 4 cylinder is amazing. Best in the business.
Rs3 tops it badly with the fantastic 5 cylinder amazing.
The benz looks incredibly sexy n has a nice interior. Too bad it requires major work like a engine swap and battery removal to become a real drivable car. Hopefully they dont make the same mistake with the upcoming cle coupe and they better give it the v8 with no heavy batteries.
😂😂😂
🤩@benbarrycars Ben the clarity of your balanced and informed insights on cars makes this video wicked thanks a lot ⭐️
2200kg 4 cylinder "AMG" these will not sell
Merc has really put purists off with this move. This would have been better played if they piloted this on a C43 or an "in-betweener" model which closes the gap between the C43 & the fully fledged 63... something like a C63 (without the S). Purists, which are the most that go for these kind of cars, are not only concerned with horse-power, NewtonMeters & 0-60 sprints alone. They also want the sound, the muscle, the rawness, etc.
What a fantastic review; well structured, critical and concise yet manages to capture everything we need to know. Bravo car magazine 👏
Thank you!
Mercedes apparently does not understand why customers liked and bought the C63. It was never about how fast the car was but rather about how it made you feel when accelerating. Whilst clever engineering can make replace the power output of a V8 you cant replicate the emotions.
Very deep and serious review... congrats
Totally expected this result. Don't understand MB/AMG's thinking with the C63s and GT63 e-performance crap. Far too heavy and too focused on F1 technology. Depressing. Would take the M3 all day.
Great video and analysis Ben.
Thanks!
Thank-you so much for doing and unbiased review on the new C63 S e-perforamnce, by doing it side by side of the M3 Touring and the RS4 Competition Avant.
When I say unbiased you are the first person to call the C63 S e-per what it actually is. Not a very good driver's car as it has way too much technology thrown at and trying to be a Performance wagon/car and a fuel-efficient car. Everyone that has reviewed this car gave over-the-moon reviews and emphasized how brilliant it was by constantly quoting the Brake Hosepower numbers. If they had put this drivetrain into the CLA, GLA models they would of had a winner. However putting this into the C63S it's going to be a Parking Lot Marker on the Dealer Lots. Anyone and Everyone that has been an owner or a shopper of the C63 of the first gen or 2nd gen W204 C63 want the Naturally aspirated V8 and would not want to trade-in that for this new 2023/24 Generation. In my opinion, Mercedes will not recoup any money for this car and when the accountants of Mercedes see the numbers of sales v. their completion in class they are going to be very upset/sad. $90k, for this or $80k for the BMW M3 Touring or the BMW M3 Sedan Competiton v. the C63s E-Performance Sedan, will be sold 10 to 1. Also, I believe that the Facelifted 2012-2014 Sedan C63 and the 2012-2015 Coupe with the P31/P30 Package will quickly become a future classic and the prices will increase very quickly. The cars with the P31/P30 gets you Increased horsepower 481with 443 ft lbs of torque and some SLS Black Series engine components instead of the standard 451, Option Code 471 Limited Slip Differential, U70 Red Brake Calipers with 2 Piece Rotors and H73 Carbon Fiber interior Trim Pieces, and rear trunk spoiler. Also with the Face Lifted C63 you get the New 7 spd auto transmission with Race Start (Launch Control)
The magic of the old C63 was the sound coming out of the tailpipes. It could be the most complete driver's car in the world, but without that sound it's an automatic NO in my books
Clear winner for me are those lovely red trainers!
Fast, light weight and zero mph...
Enjoyed the clean focused review - amg what a state they are in
Thank you for this review this will represents a lot for
My c63s w205 🏁🙌🏻
I actually refuse to watch anything electric 😢😂
Really confused by the Merc. Would literally rather have half the HP with a regular V8 or even an EV. They managed to combine the worst of both.
Wow just shows what great car the RS4 is! It definitely wins the looks test. For a model that's hurtling towards the wrong side of towards a decade old to push the BNIB M3 comp touring so close, speaks volumes. There's a lot of love here for the RS4. I just hope Audi builds on its strengths and not ruin its successor like AMG have slaughtered the C63. I still don't like the Beemers Beaver grille, but the car has a good rear end for sure. 2 great cars and a Mercedes then!
The C63 has only got half an engine!
Who is buying C43 AMG and C63 AMG with 4 cylinders ?? Only people not having petrolhead heart. Base price C43 AMG: 87 400 € vs M340i: 70 900€ and C63 AMG estate: 114 130€ vs M3 touring: 101 760€.
The G8x M3 has the S58 engine. Totally different to the S55 in the F8x M3 generation.
I feel that it is now a ‘step up’ from a GLA45, rather than a ‘step down’ from an E63
Imagine having one big advantage against your rivals and killing this exact advantage with the least attractive solution out there…
Super review 🎉
Thank you 🤗
Buying this over the other vehicles is like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
This comparison really highlights the essence of true performance sedans.
Great video. The merc is an abomination.
Cant even comment on that Merc with the c63 badge. Are we really moving to EV? Not gonna happen in the Southern Hemisphere
This is a very good review hats of to the journalist 👏
Thank you!
I have a fast mercedes and owned a fast BMW a couple of years ago. I have always found Audis a bit dull and dynamically inferior but I think AMG road division like the F1 team have gone down the wrong avenue and for the first time ever would go Audis first, BMW, then Mercedes as the normal BMW default choice is spoilt by the dodgy looks.
The car that caused Tobias Moers to resign. I can see why
Tobias moved to Aston Martin before this abomination was born. It's to help the troubling British sports car brand weathering through the ex-Nissan coo Andy Palmer mess.
12:06 Thank you for an honest review, that really says it all.
Subscribed because you gave an honest rating
Miss the v8 merc
A C63, should have a 6.3 (I know it is actually a 6.2), liter engine. That is the point of the acronym. The 4.0 twin turbo is a better engine, but it should not be called a 63, because it is really a 40 (if following the same logic).
At least it was a v8, so it was kind of ok. But this, sorry, it does not deserve the 63 badge.
It probably drives rather well, but one of points of an AMG, RS, M car, or any other performance car, is to put a smile on your face already when you start the engine, the enginenoise should be pleasing while cruising, and the feeling when going for it, should obviously be a lot of fun. Most modern cars do not have theese qualities as their predecessors. Oldschool is best, and it does not need insane speeds to be fun either🤪
Cheap feeling controls to scroll through the drive modes? The steering wheel rotating drive mode select is like the one featuer everyone loves in AMGs
Brilliant review
Thanks!
Ive been waiting for this comparison video. Damn Mercedes what were you thinking? Was Mercedes thinking?
Really good reviewer
That m3 touring is going to go down as a masterpiece for bmw, it ticks every box , perfect recipe where in the past these cars always had a downside. The stance, interior , engine, seats, drive, handling, awd and 2wd if you want. I would sell my kidney for one of these things
i need a kidney and have an m3 comp
Imagine having a worse fuel consumption as a 4cyl compared to a 6cyl… Especially because the 6cyl has more power… Mercedes really disappoints with the C63
Im excited for 3 cylinder high torque 1.5l Mercedes next. What a beast. This is why the three pointed circle is a legend.
What you’re feeling in the ride is 2.4T on steel springs. It’s just a flawed package before they even got to tuning dampeners
Imagine paying $80k+ for a 4-cylinder when there are two V6 options for similar price.
thank you for his this very honest review. We need more car journalists to do this instead of just pandering to every manufacturer.
Was there a reason why he didn‘t use the Drift Mode in the AMG as in the M3?
Please tell me its just the angle and those aren't superficial vents on the fender. I mean you could appreciate the engineering that gets those numbers from a hybrid 4, but you can't condone them doing the buick treatment on the fenders
BMW this time is the true winner, Mercedes just left the race
The Merc is only the fastest when there’s charge on the battery.
And that probably won’t be for long given that it has a frankly pathetic EV range of 8 miles.
Im just a fan of all three of these brands. I get the feeling that MB screwed up when they thought MB customers will buy their product no matter what. I can just hear the salesmen now "But my friend this has F1 Tech in it" forgetting that V8 engine is what made the C63 iconic. Audi & BMW also had iconic V8's but were smart enough to not drop too low, and opted for 6 cylinders and still gave it wonderful sounds at the exhaust. It's the little things that can excite a driver, overtaking another vehicle with a few loud claps from the exhaust to congratulate you and make you feel good getting to where you are going. This two litre 4 cylinder offers coughs to let you know that something is wrong, it lost its powerful voice that cripples the experience for the driver. It's not about the F1 Tech, it's about creating a superior driving experience for your customers who are parting with a lot of money. Who remembers the Audi RS5 V8 engine or the BMW M5 V10 whilst they may not respectively be lightening fast or mechanically reliable, they had souls, they had heart and personality that you come to appreciate years after their heyday. I now believe that the C63s V8 (a legend) has now joined that category. MB customers have this to deal with this... Unless MB comes to their senses and bring the V8 back, borrow tech from Mclaren P1 if you have to go the hybrid way. But for goodness sakes! Don't downplay the essential part that a good engine & exhaust sound brings to the driver experience!
Current owner of an E63s, I'll keep this V8 for awhile longer but my relationship with AMG is no longer going forward. Been looking at Giulia QV and i think that's where my future is heading.
you realise Alfa are going fully electric soon right 🤣🤣. Big V6s and V8s are dead🤷. Unless there's a lot of reengineering to make the amount of cylinders used and fuel consumption much better it's not happening. At which point the argument of a modular engine that you can deploy as a 3 cylinder, 4 cylinder, 5 cylinder and 6 cylinder would make more sense. Especially if you can the deactivate cylinders for example. The issue there is it's probably cheaper just to make a full EV instead.
@eaglemmoomin_418 sure do. That's why I want to add a green one to collection when depreciation has taken the toll on it.
Facts says that literally no one bought new AMG C63,they said it's the biggest bust ever for AMG.
If only Lexus made an IS F Wagon...
Really good review 👏. What on earth were they thinking with that c63. Just unnecessarily complicated. 8 driving modes? A 2.0 hybird hot rod estate? Im really struggling to understand the target audience there. Rs4 was the suprise for me, i love the subtle changes they have done, and it sounds lovely too.
Glad you enjoyed
The Ms are always a better driving machine than amg and RS
never seen such negative comments on such a monster of a car!! a 680 horsepower car that is 2000 kg delivers 11-12 Km x lt is actually incredibly good. But I guess you have to use one for al least 1 month to actually have a real opinion.... the car is super good
That C63 also weighs as much as a SUV. It has insane power to overcome that and still be blindingly fast but take it to a wet track or snow where it can't hide its weight and it might be a whole different story.