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  • @mattyg499
    @mattyg499 Рік тому +2

    Listening to the Yamaha piano being played back (preffered the first velocity version)through the prophet sent me back to the early 80s as a teenager…..melancholic.

  • @briann5001
    @briann5001 Рік тому +13

    The prophet x is the best and most slept on keyboard laughable how it was overlooked.

    • @Dudderlyful
      @Dudderlyful 8 місяців тому +1

      Spent ages playing one in a shop and couldn't believe why this wasn't a more appreciated board, it's an amazing machine!

  • @marcchapuis9399
    @marcchapuis9399 Рік тому +6

    I've been on the fence about purchasing but the result and ease of use you showed has me sold. Thanks, Espen!

  • @vegsozoltan5283
    @vegsozoltan5283 Рік тому +6

    I use frequently the Sample Robot for Yamaha MODX and the Reason's NN-XT, it's a fantastic program. From time to time I manage to dig deeper into its incredible potential. The real strength of SR is the looping, it saves a lot of time.

  • @jezpower
    @jezpower Рік тому +9

    Love my Prophet X, I think they are underrated, they have massive sample memory, and they sound fantastic

    • @pfmmodule5144
      @pfmmodule5144 Рік тому +3

      Really fun once you start making your own patches.

    • @sub-jec-tiv
      @sub-jec-tiv Рік тому

      💯

    • @mwl5
      @mwl5 11 місяців тому

      Do the X's envelopes affect the samples, or do they play independently? How do the X's digital oscillators sound compared to Sequential's VCOs or DCOs?

  • @bubuAudio
    @bubuAudio Рік тому +5

    great multisampling demonstration !! amazing result on the Prophet X

  • @willowmusic5
    @willowmusic5 Рік тому +9

    Congratulations on your new Prophet X !! And wow - your sampling process went much easier than I thought it would. Thanks for the demonstration.

  • @chrismurphy9750
    @chrismurphy9750 Рік тому +2

    Great video Espen - I've been considering my options for playing live as well without taking the vintage gear out and you've shown me an option! Nice!

  • @mickricksbsc
    @mickricksbsc Рік тому +2

    A brilliant, straightforward demonstration on how to multisample a synth. I had never heard of Samplerobot prior to this video. But I'll be getting it ASAP for my studio. I'll probably use it with a vst sampler, as I don't think that my Triton Rack would be up to playing decent quality samples created with it, even though it has been fully expanded to the full 96MB of ram.

  • @JRod37
    @JRod37 11 місяців тому +1

    This is great! I'm fairly convinced that the PX will be the live keyboard I need - at least for what I do, and this has helped convince me even more

  • @h.guntersson2243
    @h.guntersson2243 Рік тому +4

    I've been using samplerobot for 2 months and am totally obsessed. Everything is so easy. Even my Korg S3 drum machine is now in the DAW. Even my monosynth GRP A2 can now be played polyphonically. Great tool. My next project is the Original Korg DSS Library.

    • @samplerobot9639
      @samplerobot9639 Рік тому +2

      We are considering adding the Korg DSS-1 sample format to SampleRobot as well. It's such a great sampler especially with the Straylight modification installed.

    • @h.guntersson2243
      @h.guntersson2243 Рік тому +1

      @@samplerobot9639 Big News! Great.

  • @bwicklander
    @bwicklander Рік тому +3

    I need to check into sample robot more and get some of my older synths sampled to do some fun layering techniques and detuning.

  • @antoniolausinrabelo6142
    @antoniolausinrabelo6142 Рік тому +1

    Whoa!!! Amazing. This is a dream come true!!

  • @DrChopz
    @DrChopz 5 місяців тому +1

    Nice video. And, thanks. Sample Robot is exactly what Iv'e been looking for!

  • @matstevens3756
    @matstevens3756 Рік тому +5

    The Akai Force above the Prophet X has an auto sampler built in. I’ve sampled some of my synths and it works really well.

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому

      I know. Didn't get the Force to do sampling.

    • @dankeplace
      @dankeplace Рік тому

      @@EspenKraft It's an amazing sequencer imo.

    • @gonzinigonz
      @gonzinigonz Рік тому

      @@EspenKraft Something you can do with the Force is load the older S5/6K sampler libraries directly if you weren't aware. Need to be the AKP format.
      It looks out of place in your studio not being pre 2000 hardware, but good to see it there. I love mine, warts n all. First bit of Akai gear i brought in over 20 years.
      I remember using an early version of sample robot, quite a few years ago now.

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +2

      Like I said in my latest livestream, doing a live gig in 2023 will have to be done with part modern gear augmented with some vintage. As with paid studio gigs for clients, it's all done with modern gear. I have lots of that too.
      The Force will only do one thing, live clip launching (or one shots). That's it. Nothing more. I've never owned a 5K/6K machine at all. Every Akai sampler after the S1100 were of little to no interest to me.

    • @KevinMarlow_uk
      @KevinMarlow_uk Рік тому

      I've used the Force to auto sample over midi and also analogue gear with CV in the Prophet PX. Would be interested in a comparison between it and Sample Robot.

  • @FLH3official
    @FLH3official Рік тому +3

    I often use AutoSample, a built in feature of Logic which more or less does the same. It's realy convenient.
    Its limitations are you can only get the result for Logic Sampler (formerly EXS24), which is fine for me as this is my workhorse day to day sampler, if you want it in another format you have to use a conversion tool or put your hands in the grease.

    • @PylonRecordsdotcom
      @PylonRecordsdotcom Рік тому +1

      The Logic Autosampler is one of the best, done a lot of comparisons, who knows maybe Apple will make synthesizer some day, as we still don't have any hardware workstations that can do Autosample straight into the machine, Akai Mpc series do it, but you still have to spend a lot of time fixing things if you doing proper 5 Octave sounds, if only Dave Rossum from Emu would just make one and we could all get to work. Great Video Once Again.

  • @sub-jec-tiv
    @sub-jec-tiv Рік тому +2

    Nice congratulations! My favorite poly of all time! Made a huge sample library for mine, still exporting waves to it regularly, and ahhh the filters sound so GOOOOD 🥰 on everything! Even like, super digital waves from Roland Cloud JD990. Drop that stuff into the X, instant love.

    • @sub-jec-tiv
      @sub-jec-tiv Рік тому

      Also your sweater is fantastic

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому

      Cheers!

    • @mrautomatech2329
      @mrautomatech2329 Рік тому

      Just checking, with your expanding sample library, have you encountered any issues with storage space with the hard drive in the Prophet X?

  • @pfmmodule5144
    @pfmmodule5144 Рік тому +1

    Need to start doing this.

  • @larswillsen
    @larswillsen Рік тому +2

    Kraft for resident! :D

  • @andyry1269
    @andyry1269 Рік тому +1

    Nice combination of the 2 worlds, Sir. -Andy Ry Denmark

  • @benzmobil
    @benzmobil Рік тому +1

    Wow . Amazing software! I wish they add the export to Falcon too, I think they will at some point. That would be a great way to sample all my hardware and re-use it in the daw...

  • @renezayas9578
    @renezayas9578 Рік тому

    First i love your channel and I appreciated your dedication and passion. I have a prophet x and is really amazing keyboard plus I never thought the you bring the Prophet X in this show i just open my eyes and said "wait Prophet X hear? Wao I never expected this surprise especially how to create sample from Sample Robot to the PX. I tried to find a video for long time because first is not cheap and i really want to see how that work with PX. So for sure I will check your samples. Thanks again and keep making great videos my respect to you.

  • @dtnjnq
    @dtnjnq Рік тому +1

    I do auto sampling on the AKAI MPC live.

  • @ChrisP3000x
    @ChrisP3000x Рік тому +2

    Very nice!

  • @smartti1970
    @smartti1970 Рік тому +1

    80's had no beards awesome job on these sound creation

  • @soviut303
    @soviut303 Рік тому +1

    Nice, it has Reason NN-XT support.

  • @OldHackerOld
    @OldHackerOld Рік тому +1

    Good lesson!👍

  • @mrfuzztone
    @mrfuzztone Рік тому +1

    Great info. I have a Prophet X on the way.

  • @EvanPriceMusicChannel
    @EvanPriceMusicChannel Рік тому +2

    Looks like you've picked up the Akai Force!! Assuming this is in preparation for your upcoming gigs.. (as your choice over the laptop solution).. I look forward to your tutorials demoing how you approach this configuration... The one advantage Ableton+Laptop setup 'seems' to offer is having multiple outputs via audio interface.. however I've seen that these Akai's can be paired with Tascam's "Model 12" /16 /etc (and other compatible digital mixers..~Korg's "Soundlink" line (I suspect?)... to allow the mixer to act as multi-output interface / monitor.. which looks like a promising solution.. though I haven't seen it done aside from a few basic "how to's" on youtube... very Interesting to see if you go this way & what your experiences might be !!!.. a bona-fied laptop replacement? Let us know!!

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +1

      I will update my plans for this setup over a couple of videos coming later. ;-)

  • @neuromancer9k
    @neuromancer9k Рік тому +1

    Never owned one of these, but was very curious. The price was a bit of a yellow flag, but now that class is in session.....I may need to rethink that. Cheers, Espen! 🎹🍻

  • @slammingsamples8855
    @slammingsamples8855 Рік тому

    That’s pretty awesome.

  • @jadanoliver6237
    @jadanoliver6237 Рік тому +1

    Espen that is great!!!!!!! would that work in Talsampler as well?

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому

      No support for TAL so far. Cheers :)

  • @Zwopper
    @Zwopper Рік тому

    Nice setup!
    You should have tried it in the Nord Wave 2 - Works great as well.

  • @aristotlekumpis7095
    @aristotlekumpis7095 Рік тому

    I love SampleRobot. I bought it a few years ago and makes sampling a breeze. I didn't know that you can just plug and play the sample into the Prophet X. I have the Kronos and it takes a bit more work to import and get things right.

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому

      It's not plug and play. You only import the samples/multi-samples. You still have to make your programs/patches.

  • @jonathanredman8497
    @jonathanredman8497 Рік тому +1

    I wish I’d had Sample Robot 30 years ago ! 😅

  • @osirismaximus2787
    @osirismaximus2787 8 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful! Is this patch included in your PX Patch bank?

  • @markgray9861
    @markgray9861 Рік тому +1

    Hi Espen, your sample packs for the Prophet X would be a big hit I think. There are only a handful available and people are always asking if there are any other good ones out there.

    • @markgray9861
      @markgray9861 Рік тому +1

      Sign me up for your first one!

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +3

      I do have a lot of custom samples already and they would make excellent programs on the PX.

    • @Tidus030990
      @Tidus030990 Рік тому

      @@markgray9861 same

    • @mrautomatech2329
      @mrautomatech2329 Рік тому

      Yes I’d love this too!

  • @soulflower8687
    @soulflower8687 Рік тому +2

    Ace vid. This could be a big time saver. Nice little tutorial.

  • @infindebula
    @infindebula Рік тому +2

    Is there any crossfading of the different velocity layers on the Prophet, or does it just switch between them? I suppose crossfading could get muddy because you “printed” the symphonic effect.
    Anyway, thanks for the video Espen, the Sample Robot workflow seems pretty straightforward.

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому

      If I were to do any crossfading at all, I'd do it in SampleRobot before exporting to the PX. I don't have much need for it anyways. Cheers :)

  • @jeffevansmusic
    @jeffevansmusic Рік тому +1

    You have got a ripper there Espen with the Prophet X.

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +2

      It'll do nicely for my needs. ;-)

    • @jeffevansmusic
      @jeffevansmusic Рік тому +1

      @@EspenKraft I know its great having vintage synths and all and I have a few myself and keeping them working real nice is a bit of challenge in itself. But its also great having a super modern and powerful machine like the Prophet X around at the same time. They all compliment each other in many ways.

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +1

      I didn't get it to complement anything. This will be used live. It will not be used very much for anything else. ;-)

    • @jeffevansmusic
      @jeffevansmusic Рік тому

      @@EspenKraft What I meant by compliment was in the studio, where you may be blending older analog synths with more modern digital sounds at the same time in order to add texture to the track. Live, it would be great and solve a lot of issues in terms of taking out lots of analog gear.

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому

      Sure, but I don't have any desire to use the PX for anything but the sample engines to hold my custom sounds in a live setting. That's what I got it for. To make my music I'll stick with my old gear as usual.

  • @dezwrightmusic
    @dezwrightmusic Рік тому

    would love a prophet x samples bank from you 🙏

  • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242

    When did you get a Prophet X? I'd like to see a full review on it, and comparison to say the Prophet 5 and how it compares for analog sounds.

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +1

      Had it for a little while. Not using it for analog sounds as such. I'm using it to create a custom patch set, for live use. I'm only using the two sample engines. How it compares to a Prophet 5 isn't important to me at all.

  • @Shred_The_Weapon
    @Shred_The_Weapon Рік тому

    It would appear as though the Prophet X achieves what Dave Smith originally had in mind during 2003 with the original Evolver, being in the present and reaching into the future instead of fixating on the past. Mr. Smith did comment shortly before he unveiled the Prophet 10 rev for how blown away he was that people kept reaching back into the past instead of moving forward. The Xwould almost appear to be picking up where the original sequential circuits left off with models such as the 2000, 3000, Studio 440 and VS.
    As you took us through uploading the 802 sound into SampleRobot, Espen, it brought a question to mind. With all the different things the X can do, does it also include an additive synthesis section?

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +1

      No, only subtractive synthesis.

  • @Garflips
    @Garflips Рік тому

    Nice. I was wondering if you couldn't have set a fade out for the samples? I use different software and tools for doing similar work and even when samples have a natural decay, I'd rather make sure that the noise floor dissolves out because you could end up with a slight pop if the noise floor from the original equipment is high enough or if there's still some slight sustain of the voice at the tail end. I'd also recommend to folks to make a couple of sample recordings, an additional one with more layers and more multi-samples in case you needed it in the future for particular sample software, you'd have it and you wouldn't have to go through the process again or you may not still have the synth. Great stuff!

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +1

      Sure, I tried this in various ways during those days with the program. I found I didn't have to do more with this particular sound, but other patches required different approaches, but that's all post editing so to speak. The sampling process and finding the loops are what takes the most time and SampleRobot really make that process so easy and clean.

    • @Garflips
      @Garflips Рік тому

      @@EspenKraft Well you do a good job - I've heard your sample packs for Tal Sampler I use Bliss Sampler for resampling VSTs and creating SFZ for Tal. Bliss will also splice a continuous audio file of samples such as recorded from a hardware synth and turn that into an SFZ, though expect to do a bit of tweaking.😁

  • @cortical1
    @cortical1 Рік тому

    Sounds great! Excited to watch you use all the capabilities of the Prophet X. Do you like the keybed?

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! I don't like the keybed as much as late 80s Rolands, but it is definitely on the better side.

    • @cortical1
      @cortical1 Рік тому

      @@EspenKraft Ah okay. 👍🏻

  • @kvasin04
    @kvasin04 Рік тому +1

    Very cool video and tasty playing as allways. Do you know if it can export to Nordstage 3 or Nordwave 2?

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому

      Thanks! It has the export options you see in the video, but check out their website for more info.

    • @kvasin04
      @kvasin04 Рік тому

      @@EspenKraft Thank you, just bought it and sampled my OB6 before selling it. Very easy to import to Nord via the Nord Sample Manager. Thanks for the tip, works perfect.

    • @samplerobot9639
      @samplerobot9639 Рік тому +1

      Some time ago we asked Clavia if there was a documentation of their sample format but it seemed they would not like to open it for other developers even under NDA. This might have changed in the meantime. If we can get hold of a format description there is a strong possibility that the export option will show up in SampleRobot sooner or later.

    • @kvasin04
      @kvasin04 Рік тому +1

      @@samplerobot9639 great, but it worked very well just exporting to wav`s.

  • @EverettDudgeon138
    @EverettDudgeon138 Рік тому +1

    Will you be doing dedicated Sample Packs for the Prophet X or can your current Sample Packs be imported via SampleRobot into the PX?

    • @Wagoo
      @Wagoo Рік тому

      you would need to convert them into 8dio format first probably, I think there's a utility app to help with that

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому

      I might do that in the future, but I'm not sure about the popularity of such packs. I'd have to make some money off of it to put it like that. ;-)
      My current sample packs for TAL is quite easily imported to SampleRobot, but some work will have to be done before ending up in the X. I've already started to "port" part of the TAL library to my X, but only for my own needs and purposes.

    • @EverettDudgeon138
      @EverettDudgeon138 Рік тому

      @@Wagoo SampleRobot converts them automatically as it has a dedicated export format for the PX.

  • @missingdogmusic
    @missingdogmusic Рік тому +1

    Wouldn't sampling individual notes through the digital chorus yield a less 'natural' representation of the original sound due to the lack of pre-FX phase interaction of the individual notes being played when using the samples afterwards to play chords etc. I can imagine it'll sound more artificial or forced than applying FX in real-time during performance from a quality multi-fx or dedicated machine.

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +2

      I'm only interested in the final sound when I make these patches and the way I'm doing it now is exactly how I want them to sound. Clear, yet smeared with that Symphonic chorus.

  • @Noise-Conductor
    @Noise-Conductor Рік тому

    Now you gotta make an Akai Force vs SampleRobot Auto-Sampling video!

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому

      No chance for that. Not using the Force for sampling at all. ;-)

    • @Noise-Conductor
      @Noise-Conductor Рік тому

      @@EspenKraft Even so it still would be a cool video for music science purposes LOL.
      But why don't you sample with the Force? I think you said why buy I don't remember sorry.

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому

      Only using the Force for audio sequencing live.

  • @markgray9861
    @markgray9861 Рік тому +1

    I found that sometimes my samples were too quiet compared to the factory content so I have been normalizing them before I import them.

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому

      The factory content are almost totally unusable for both my needs and taste so I'd delete it all, in a heartbeat.

  • @PylonRecordsdotcom
    @PylonRecordsdotcom Рік тому

    Espen do you think you will have some patches for sale for the Prophet X in the near future ?

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +1

      Working on a big epic sample pack for the PX.

  • @bartkimberley8336
    @bartkimberley8336 Рік тому

    Hello Espen, just wondering if you considered software MainStage for sampling prior to purchasing Sample Robot.

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +1

      No, because I don't want to use any laptops or computers on stage.

    • @bartkimberley8336
      @bartkimberley8336 Рік тому

      @@EspenKraft MainStage is a sampling software similar to Sample Robot. Why did you choose Sample Robot?

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +1

      Sure, I have Reaper as well, that can do auto sampling. I just liked how fast I could have everything exported out to the PX zipfile and imported into the PX with SampleRobot. Now that I've used it for a bit I've found a workflow that is easy to me, gives me the results I like so no need to either try out something else or consider another program. Unless a manufacturer offers me an obscene amount of money to switch. ;)

  • @mrdali67
    @mrdali67 Рік тому

    Hi Esben, are you happy with the Sample Robot program. ? I have tried the Extreme Sample onverter, but It's like a totally ancient version just like Chicken Systems. It seems a little more uptodate, but at least it has and can handle your Prophet X, Kronos and Montage format directly. The SF2 format which is like the lowest common supported format in modern sample Synths for import is not directly optimal if you want to experiment with high count layers and key of samples, I just wish they would add support for Yamaha Expansion Manager which I could suspect Yamaha to move to with the upcommin Montage II or whatever its gonna be named. I fear for my wallet in October 🤑🙄

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +1

      I'm very happy with SampleRobot. It does all I need really, for the PX.

  • @chrissneider7550
    @chrissneider7550 Рік тому

    Hello Espen, at 13:32 there are clicks in the attack of the captured samples from Robot or maybe the very fast attack of the controller, I am not convinced by the sound of the captured samples.

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +2

      Not out to convince anyone about anything. As always I'm only making videos I think are interesting. That said, the clicks can be different things, the fast envelopes of the PX, me setting the sample start in the sample engines that play back the samples, or the samples themselves. It can even be the video sound recording itself, clipping as I always record hot.

    • @chrissneider7550
      @chrissneider7550 Рік тому +2

      @@EspenKraft I am not saying that Espen, I am sorry if I have offended you, it was not my intention. I watched the whole video and it's very interesting the Robot plugin for sampling, I just noticed those clicks, that's all. Thanks for all your videos, they are very instructive! Greetings from California!

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +2

      Not offended at all. I have no idea why I get that response (that I'm offended) occasionally, but it's probably a cultural thing because of the way I express myself in writing, which is the same as would do verbally. In Norway we're like this. ;-)
      In any case, the PX has a tendency to have clicks occasionally because of very fast envelopes. Cheers! :)

  • @EgoShredder
    @EgoShredder Рік тому

    I guess next you will be sampling to capture the pitch and mod wheels for your sounds that use them.

  • @aloharay
    @aloharay Рік тому

    What were the file sizes if the final project? Just trying to get an idea of how much storage within the Prophet is required. Also, the variations with and without velocity and wide, were these individually made within sample robot doing multiple sample sessions, or simply variations on the one pack you made done within the Prophet x?

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому

      About 60Mb for this particular sampling. The 3 different patches on the PX were done from that multi sample alone. No extra sampling.

  • @GordonBraicks
    @GordonBraicks Рік тому

    I am curious about the size of the multi sampled patch. How big was it?

  • @JoelBouchillon
    @JoelBouchillon Рік тому

    how long did it actually take to complete the sampling process? and how Large was the file size?

    • @EspenKraft
      @EspenKraft  Рік тому +1

      About 10-15 minutes if I remember correctly. The file size for this particular patch is 60Mb.

  • @Sunstatemusic
    @Sunstatemusic Рік тому

    When i tried to export audio tracks sounded by NI Kontakt at 3 MHz sample rate i understood that audio sounds better than hardware Prophet X

    • @cortical1
      @cortical1 Рік тому

      Define better. 🤡

    • @artofwebdesign
      @artofwebdesign Рік тому

      stupid thought and not correct. Sample with a higher rate than originally recorded can never make it sound better.