There are also what was known as pauper’s graves. Families that were so poor they couldn’t afford a burial. My great aunt who died at the age of 11 from Tuberculosis, was buried in a pauper’s grave in Bootle Cemetery. That was in the 1950’s. So sad 😢
Seems to be lots of places where unmarked graves have been left in Liverpool. Thanks for watching Amanda, there's a video about the Liverpool Necropolis on the channel too, that has over 80 thousand bodies with no headstones left to mark the graves.
Brilliant! Welcome to Scouse Farm. There's a warehouse in Salford by the ground of that football team I shall not name. It says LIVERPOOL right across the top in massive lettering. Always makes me smile :)
There are many old and forgotten graveyards in Liverpool that have been built over or landscaped. Some are parks like the former Liverpool necropolis on Everton Road. The Art college and student flats behind it on Myrtle Road near the Philamonic Halls is a good example. It was St Mary's Cemetery in 1848, the college site being empty on the map. By 1890 the cemetery had been landscaped over and a children's infirmary, later known as The Royal Liverpool Children's Hospital, was where the college now is. I believe the hospital closed in the mid 1990's then demolished.
Yes, I did a video on the Necropolis so have a look on the channel and see what you think my friend. There's a few dotted about as you say, if they aren't in town I'll go and visit a few in the future. I don't go into the Town Centre, way too busy for me and I refuse to pay for parking. Thanks for watching.
You're following me!! Haha. I LOVED being in that school, it was a great place to 'learn' (mess around with my mates). Mr Coyne was an exceptional Teacher and was well respected by all of us in his class. I hope it's still a good school. Thanks for watching.
@ScouseFarm From @AdikiaMedia. Good teachers left! Was a lady called Miss Walsh that took over not very liked. Heard she left now. The two that went there are 22 and 16 now. Our older kids all went to St. Cecilias. Their head was called MR Coyne! Hair like snow, exceptional Man! Wonder if same one... Really lovely man. Great content! 👍
@@Lisa-Peter7875 'My' Mr Coyne had snow white hair but I was in his class in the late 80s so I doubt it's the same fella but it might be. He was brilliant though.
Could have been the same he was getting on when our oldest went there she was born 1996 so 2001/2 in juniors. He was gay. But no one new till he left. Very tall good build. @ScouseFarm
Mad mate, The Nun's never told me either, they just clipped me around the head, punched me in the back with their knuckles and made me do Lines at playtime. They Loved me really :)
There’s mass graves all over the city from WW2. If the coffins stacks were so high it would have caused a huge depression in the ground,effectively making the ground unstable,due to the huge void when the coffin rots and collapses. Thats one of the reasons old grave stones are seldom totally upright in grave yards. Regardless of the number I think it’s very likely to do with WW2 .As Liverpool was the 2nd most bombed city in the country. Beautiful buildings great vid 👍🏼
Nice one John, The coffins and contents in this particular site are way too old for it to have been from the late 1940s mate. The area of Old Swan in question was an untouched Meadow for many years, which in itself was always strange because it was never built on. All around it houses were built and blocks of flats that have now been knocked down for a hideous Tesco. Whoever they are in those coffins, they were placed there a long time ago. Thanks for watching.
All my mates went to that club, i never went as i never lived in the area bit far at the time for me. I did go to the social club next door though when i was 19/20. My kids went the Joseph Lappin. Brilliant place 8:26
I grew up in the Swan. I remember the bodies being cholera victims although there was talk of some of the coffins being metal and sealed apparently these were taken away. When I go back to the Swan it always feels like going home
Thanks for watching. Lots of speculation around the discovery but no answers from the officials leaves us with nothing but rumours unfortunately. It was nice to be back at my old school, still think I have a few text books I forget to take back :)
Indeed. Those old houses on Mill Lane are wonderful. The church is incredible too, as are the outbuildings associated with the Church. Takes me back to my school days. The school chips were lovely, that's my fondest memory haha :) Thanks for watching.
I heard the coffins were moved from where georges hall is built plus they may have been plague bodies and you can still catch the plague from the bones brillant video thanks
It's a proper mystery mate, very disturbing the way the bodies were unrecorded and stacked in coffins so high. No reason not to investigate why there was a Mass Grave on Sacred Ground, but they decided to burn everything instead and close the site from public view. Nothing changes. Thanks for watching!
Did you know there are massive empty catacombs below St George's hall ? we are officially told (unconvincingly) they were built to house future victims of a plague that never came.
@@robertmcgivern6585 The more we look into our past in this City, the more we find questions and not answers. So many unusual tunnels throught the City too. Shame I have to go back to work soon or I would be out every day looking for mysteries 👀. Thanks for the comment mate.
That’s brilliant mate, fascinating. I grew up there and my great grandparents told me about it but didn’t say there was that many bodies there. I later heard that they’re possibly Irish immigrants that fled the potato famine and fell foul to what can only be described as genocide. The D notices, injunctions and the fact it’s shrouded in secrecy would obviously support this. I’m surprised the government didn’t try and capitalise on this in 2020 and say it was covid…… Loved that video mate. Check Grant Gardens in Everton, that’s fascinating too.
I remember reading they couldn't have been plague pits because there were a few thousand bodies neatly stacked & the population of the area at that time (1600s) was sparse .Think bodies were relocated to the Anfield area.
Yes, Any 'plague' would result in lime pits, mass cremations and no need for actual coffins. The logistics of such an operation and the planning involved 'suggests' military involvement. However that's just speculation on my part. Very much a strange event though. Thanks for watching, welcome to Scouse Farm :) Have a look at my Carrot Harvest video, you can see my Cat at the end, she looks like the Cat in your profile picture.
@@janetmoore1441 Thanks for watching Janet, yep, I can't believe I went to St Oswald's and didn't know about it officially. Now that I've done the video, I do remember some stories about the school being 'Haunted' because of a Graveyard when I was a kid, now it makes sense 👻
Lots of speculations about who they were and why they were buried there in a completely unrecorded Mass Grave. The fact there are no written records in a country (and Church) that keeps extensive records 'suggests' there's something they would rather the public did not know. Oh for a Time Machine :) Thanks for watching!
@@ScouseFarmFrom what I remember, my Nan had an Uncle that had died from Cholera and her Mother believed that he was buried in a mass grave in Old Swan. Like you say, we'll never know.
@@babsfryer1718 The Cholera story seems to be the one most remembered that's for sure. Maybe one day a proper investigation will happen. Thanks again for watching.
I KNEW yrs ago of stories of mass- graves, but under or behind those flats opposite the Omnibus pub on Oswald st, said to be bodies from the Napolionic wars !
That's just over the road from here, so there definitely seems to be a lot of mystery about Old Swan. I miss those flats, much better than a Tesco. Thanks for watching.
There was a pub by millers bridge in bootle its gone now carnt remember its name but there was a tunnel down the basement what went to the docks in bootle and the old dockers used to use the tunnel when the tyde had gone out and used to get there whiskys run cigarettes etc and would come from the docks through the tunnels to this pub with all the spirit cigarettes the old toll bar it was called been knocked down now
Brilliant! Scouse Farm Comments section has an actual eye witness. Thanks for the info Ann, my Dad said he used to play on the Meadow where no building ever took place, now we know why. Thanks for watching.
If you would be up for a chat about what you remember from that time Anne, let me know in a comment here and I'll leave an email address for you to contact me and I'll come and have a chat with you when you're free. Thanks.
When i was a kid bootle golf course had old air raid shelters and they went under ground and there was a old motor bike down there and ammo and first world guns in there this was the early 70s long gone now they were recoverd and handed in to the police might of been 2nd ww
Great story. Pandemic seems most likely. Liverpool was the epicentre of Britain's cholera outbreak in the 1840s. Could you talk to some enterprising History Channel to see if they'd be interested in pursuing it with you?
It's likely to remain a mystery James but some form of sickness or poisoning could be at the root of it. A few intrepid journalists have had a go at unravelling the mystery, but when you come up against Government locked doors it's unlikely you'll ever find the correct key. Thanks for watching, hope you stick around.
You should do a vid on sefton church theres ment to be tunnels when the priest yoused go to back in the days when they had to hide these tunnels go for miles
@ScouseFarm sefton church goes back to the 11 hundreds I think me aunty worked in the punch ball next door the pub and she was in the toilet one night in the 70s and seen a ghost a few times but only told family bout it but it would be good if they get back to you mate
@ScouseFarm another story there was a pub at the end off millers bridge in Bootle this was bout 1990 and ste and Celine were the managers of the prince of Wales pub just end millers bridge and one day he went deep down the cellar and found guns that fired lead balls 2 of them in a old sack and coins from the same time and money could of been from a robbery we never no but what a true story and imagine what's still berried out there
@@JohnMoore-g6f Yes, it is also a Grade 1 listed Church too. I might go and film around the outside one day but they won't let me film inside so I'll do what I can. Thanks.
Great video thank you, I love a good mystery and you brought one to our attention.
Nice one, I enjoyed going back there.
There are also what was known as pauper’s graves. Families that were so poor they couldn’t afford a burial. My great aunt who died at the age of 11 from Tuberculosis, was buried in a pauper’s grave in Bootle Cemetery. That was in the 1950’s. So sad 😢
Seems to be lots of places where unmarked graves have been left in Liverpool. Thanks for watching Amanda, there's a video about the Liverpool Necropolis on the channel too, that has over 80 thousand bodies with no headstones left to mark the graves.
Just subscribed I'm from Manchester love watching walkabouts
Brilliant! Welcome to Scouse Farm. There's a warehouse in Salford by the ground of that football team I shall not name. It says LIVERPOOL right across the top in massive lettering. Always makes me smile :)
When i was a kid used to always play in ford cemetery in netherton and theres graves there that were they had died on the titanic
Very interesting history. Good video 👍
Thanks Paul, it was surprising to hear about it that's for sure. Love a good mystery. Thanks for watching.
@@ScouseFarm I look forward to the next one 👍
Just subbed mate. Enjoyed your video, great research. Always interesting to find out more about this city 👍🏻.
Thank You kind Sir, welcome to Scouse Farm, I appreciate the Sub.
@ no worries, not long on my own channel so trying to learn from different UA-camrs 👍🏻
@@Redfox_UK I'll give you a sub in 5 mins mate. Good luck with it, hopefully we both get there 🤝
@@Redfox_UK Done. 393 now mate 👍
There are many old and forgotten graveyards in Liverpool that have been built over or landscaped. Some are parks like the former Liverpool necropolis on Everton Road.
The Art college and student flats behind it on Myrtle Road near the Philamonic Halls is a good example.
It was St Mary's Cemetery in 1848, the college site being empty on the map. By 1890 the cemetery had been landscaped over and a children's infirmary, later known as The Royal Liverpool Children's Hospital, was where the college now is. I believe the hospital closed in the mid 1990's then demolished.
Yes, I did a video on the Necropolis so have a look on the channel and see what you think my friend. There's a few dotted about as you say, if they aren't in town I'll go and visit a few in the future. I don't go into the Town Centre, way too busy for me and I refuse to pay for parking. Thanks for watching.
Two of our kids attended this school also. Brilliant video
You're following me!! Haha. I LOVED being in that school, it was a great place to 'learn' (mess around with my mates). Mr Coyne was an exceptional Teacher and was well respected by all of us in his class. I hope it's still a good school. Thanks for watching.
@ScouseFarm From @AdikiaMedia. Good teachers left! Was a lady called Miss Walsh that took over not very liked. Heard she left now. The two that went there are 22 and 16 now. Our older kids all went to St. Cecilias. Their head was called MR Coyne! Hair like snow, exceptional Man! Wonder if same one... Really lovely man. Great content! 👍
@@Lisa-Peter7875 'My' Mr Coyne had snow white hair but I was in his class in the late 80s so I doubt it's the same fella but it might be. He was brilliant though.
Could have been the same he was getting on when our oldest went there she was born 1996 so 2001/2 in juniors. He was gay. But no one new till he left. Very tall good build. @ScouseFarm
@@Lisa-Peter7875 Think that's him but can't be sure. 👍
Great vid mate .. Wow . What a mystery that is .. I’ve never heard about this either.. Mindblowing stuff 😮
Mad mate, The Nun's never told me either, they just clipped me around the head, punched me in the back with their knuckles and made me do Lines at playtime. They Loved me really :)
Haha , yeah I’d heard about the nasty nuns 😬
There’s mass graves all over the city from WW2. If the coffins stacks were so high it would have caused a huge depression in the ground,effectively making the ground unstable,due to the huge void when the coffin rots and collapses. Thats one of the reasons old grave stones are seldom totally upright in grave yards. Regardless of the number I think it’s very likely to do with WW2 .As Liverpool was the 2nd most bombed city in the country. Beautiful buildings great vid 👍🏼
Nice one John, The coffins and contents in this particular site are way too old for it to have been from the late 1940s mate. The area of Old Swan in question was an untouched Meadow for many years, which in itself was always strange because it was never built on. All around it houses were built and blocks of flats that have now been knocked down for a hideous Tesco. Whoever they are in those coffins, they were placed there a long time ago. Thanks for watching.
All my mates went to that club, i never went as i never lived in the area bit far at the time for me. I did go to the social club next door though when i was 19/20. My kids went the Joseph Lappin. Brilliant place 8:26
Yep, great times at the Montini, run by great people, Joanne & Tony (and all the other Youth workers).
I grew up in the Swan. I remember the bodies being cholera victims although there was talk of some of the coffins being metal and sealed apparently these were taken away. When I go back to the Swan it always feels like going home
Thanks for watching. Lots of speculation around the discovery but no answers from the officials leaves us with nothing but rumours unfortunately. It was nice to be back at my old school, still think I have a few text books I forget to take back :)
Beautiful buildings and beautiful houses round there
Indeed. Those old houses on Mill Lane are wonderful. The church is incredible too, as are the outbuildings associated with the Church. Takes me back to my school days. The school chips were lovely, that's my fondest memory haha :) Thanks for watching.
I heard the coffins were moved from where georges hall is built plus they may have been plague bodies and you can still catch the plague from the bones brillant video thanks
It's a proper mystery mate, very disturbing the way the bodies were unrecorded and stacked in coffins so high. No reason not to investigate why there was a Mass Grave on Sacred Ground, but they decided to burn everything instead and close the site from public view. Nothing changes. Thanks for watching!
Did you know there are massive empty catacombs below St George's hall ? we are officially told (unconvincingly) they were built to house future victims of a plague that never came.
@@robertmcgivern6585 The more we look into our past in this City, the more we find questions and not answers. So many unusual tunnels throught the City too. Shame I have to go back to work soon or I would be out every day looking for mysteries 👀. Thanks for the comment mate.
great vid Scouse, done better than i would have done 😉
Thanks TJ, see you on your next Quiz night if I'm awake :)
That’s brilliant mate, fascinating. I grew up there and my great grandparents told me about it but didn’t say there was that many bodies there. I later heard that they’re possibly Irish immigrants that fled the potato famine and fell foul to what can only be described as genocide. The D notices, injunctions and the fact it’s shrouded in secrecy would obviously support this. I’m surprised the government didn’t try and capitalise on this in 2020 and say it was covid……
Loved that video mate. Check Grant Gardens in Everton, that’s fascinating too.
Nice one mate, thanks for the rip off, can't believe my old school is on the site of a Mass Grave. The Nuns who were my teachers never told me :)
@@ScouseFarm is that tip off or rip off? 🤣 great video mate. Those teachers knew exactly what the story was.
I remember reading they couldn't have been plague pits because there were a few thousand bodies neatly stacked & the population of the area at that time (1600s) was sparse .Think bodies were relocated to the Anfield area.
Yes, Any 'plague' would result in lime pits, mass cremations and no need for actual coffins. The logistics of such an operation and the planning involved 'suggests' military involvement. However that's just speculation on my part. Very much a strange event though. Thanks for watching, welcome to Scouse Farm :) Have a look at my Carrot Harvest video, you can see my Cat at the end, she looks like the Cat in your profile picture.
Very interesting, I lived most of my child hood in Old Swan, Southgate Road and Aberdale Road.
@@janetmoore1441 Thanks for watching Janet, yep, I can't believe I went to St Oswald's and didn't know about it officially. Now that I've done the video, I do remember some stories about the school being 'Haunted' because of a Graveyard when I was a kid, now it makes sense 👻
I remember my Nan talking about this at the time, she said it was where the victims of the Cholera were buried.
Lots of speculations about who they were and why they were buried there in a completely unrecorded Mass Grave. The fact there are no written records in a country (and Church) that keeps extensive records 'suggests' there's something they would rather the public did not know. Oh for a Time Machine :) Thanks for watching!
@@ScouseFarmFrom what I remember, my Nan had an Uncle that had died from Cholera and her Mother believed that he was buried in a mass grave in Old Swan. Like you say, we'll never know.
@@babsfryer1718 The Cholera story seems to be the one most remembered that's for sure. Maybe one day a proper investigation will happen. Thanks again for watching.
Culled by Spain ish flu injection. Home office cover up of genocide.
I remember this .. was a very dark area too 👍
Nice one Scouse Times, Great channel name my friend :)
Great video
Thank You mate, glad you enjoyed it.
I KNEW yrs ago of stories of mass- graves, but under or behind those flats opposite the Omnibus pub on Oswald st, said to be bodies from the Napolionic wars !
That's just over the road from here, so there definitely seems to be a lot of mystery about Old Swan. I miss those flats, much better than a Tesco. Thanks for watching.
There was a pub by millers bridge in bootle its gone now carnt remember its name but there was a tunnel down the basement what went to the docks in bootle and the old dockers used to use the tunnel when the tyde had gone out and used to get there whiskys run cigarettes etc and would come from the docks through the tunnels to this pub with all the spirit cigarettes the old toll bar it was called been knocked down now
From Work house?
I remember it well they put a big fence up so u couldn’t see yes it was fr macathey then
Brilliant! Scouse Farm Comments section has an actual eye witness. Thanks for the info Ann, my Dad said he used to play on the Meadow where no building ever took place, now we know why. Thanks for watching.
If you would be up for a chat about what you remember from that time Anne, let me know in a comment here and I'll leave an email address for you to contact me and I'll come and have a chat with you when you're free. Thanks.
When i was a kid bootle golf course had old air raid shelters and they went under ground and there was a old motor bike down there and ammo and first world guns in there this was the early 70s long gone now they were recoverd and handed in to the police might of been 2nd ww
Thanks for watching.
Great story. Pandemic seems most likely. Liverpool was the epicentre of Britain's cholera outbreak in the 1840s. Could you talk to some enterprising History Channel to see if they'd be interested in pursuing it with you?
It's likely to remain a mystery James but some form of sickness or poisoning could be at the root of it. A few intrepid journalists have had a go at unravelling the mystery, but when you come up against Government locked doors it's unlikely you'll ever find the correct key. Thanks for watching, hope you stick around.
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Thanks mate. Was great going back to my old school haha. Still think my homework is overdue!
You should do a vid on sefton church theres ment to be tunnels when the priest yoused go to back in the days when they had to hide these tunnels go for miles
I asked if I could film in there but they never got back to me.
@ScouseFarm sefton church goes back to the 11 hundreds I think me aunty worked in the punch ball next door the pub and she was in the toilet one night in the 70s and seen a ghost a few times but only told family bout it but it would be good if they get back to you mate
@ScouseFarm another story there was a pub at the end off millers bridge in Bootle this was bout 1990 and ste and Celine were the managers of the prince of Wales pub just end millers bridge and one day he went deep down the cellar and found guns that fired lead balls 2 of them in a old sack and coins from the same time and money could of been from a robbery we never no but what a true story and imagine what's still berried out there
@@JohnMoore-g6f Yes, it is also a Grade 1 listed Church too. I might go and film around the outside one day but they won't let me film inside so I'll do what I can. Thanks.
@ScouseFarm if you go one day the age of the old graves will fascinate you m8