The disrespect for Tupac from NYC peeps is absurd and it needs to be called out. You can't sit there and tell me that the impact and influence that Pac has globally is cos of him doing movies. I'm from South Africa and I can tell you that I gravitated towards him cos of the gospel in his songs. Timeless classics that are still relevant to this day.
It's funny just watching them perpetuating their ignorance. I'm from Nigeria 🇳🇬 and I can tell you wholeheartedly that pac's music was the bomb as far back as the 90s. He died way before people over here even knew he was a movie star. U can't hear pacs music without getting drawn to it. It speaks to you, it addresses and activates something in you. Pac is the GOAT worldwide hands down. These dudes needs to travel out and see for themselves, only then can they understand.
Yea them New York niggas be selling out that’s why they love Jay Z so much that niggas a 50 year old sellout who still raps about selling dope at 50 years old… Tupac is the 🐐 period
Facts! I remember talking to this dude in front of me in high school and he said the same thing and I had to agree, he said Pac has a song for everybody.... That is 100% correct.
Pac passed at 25 years old & has more hits than most current rappers at 35. If he had 10 more years of music there’s no telling where we would place him.
I’m from NY, but a lot of people nowadays from NY don’t be wanting to admit that PAC is the greatest MC. If you travel the world you’ll see the influence, impact PAC has everywhere. Math ain’t right saying PAC is bigger cause of the movies nah that ain’t it big dawg, is cause of his music. None of the other MC’s y’all mentioned can come close to PAC globally! Some of us from the East coast just don’t like how PAC is from the East coast and rep West coast more after signing with Death Row.
It hurts these NYC dudes that someone from the city went against the grain of other NYC rappers and became bigger than the genre itself 🤷♀️ His impact is unmatched.
What are you talking about? Pac was born in NY bruh and him going against the grain is what all the rappers do now So what are you talking about? '50 Cent is is doing TVs and movies ....A lot of rappers are in movies now and then TV shows... LL Cool j etc...... Your statement makes no sense
@@bosshova23 Reading is fundamental sugar plum. Either you're addressing me as bruh to be disrespectful when I'm clearly a female or you can't read well. Secondly, I clearly said that he (Tupac) was from the city (NYC) and went against the grain of other NYC rappers at the time. You're repeating what I just said sweetie, and addressing me as if I didn't say it. All of these rappers now are following Pac's footsteps. Mmkay bye 😘
@Bobby Flynn you show me Pac acknowledging NY maybe we talk . Of course he was visiting the entertainment capital at the time as a musician. Lol it's love jus don't want him
I don't even debate about Pac anymore his name comes up everyday in every city around the world in multiple conversations. He's been gone since 96 and his name still ruffles feathers. Pac is the G.O.A.T.
I’m a 99 baby and from what I seen and learned from my perspective pac the goat the message to out weighed a lot of people’s talents to me like I’ll say lyrically big is better but pac message just surpassed bigs lyrics and flow pac died in 96 shit he was saying then it’s either happening now or still happening to us he was a black leader and died a thug rest easy in Thugz mansion
This is what settles it for me. You don't get Ready To Die without Me Against The World and there's no Life After Death without All Eyes On Me. Pac is the single most influential rapper in hip hop history.
I’m glad Buddy realize the world sees Pac as the goat. I’m from south flo, We ain’t really bump Jay Z, I loved Biggie but All Eyez On Me was INSANE! Even without the movies his music was incredible because of the heart in his music. He was the Huey Newton of music to a lot of people. He cared about his people. Him just talking is more intriguing than a lot of rappers whole albums.
My favorite era of Pac. Pre-Death Row. Most people love the Death Row stuff but Pac the artist came thru in his work on Me Against The World, Thug Life, and the songs from R U Still Down.
These NY dudes wouldn't be saying none of this if Pac was still here. The hate is just unreal. Pac's music had meaning and was very ImPACtful. Pac is timeless. Pac is the 🐐. Hands down 25+ years later. RIP Pac! "They talk a lot of s**t but that's after I'm gone. Because they fear me in the physical form" - Tupac Amaru Shakur
The man that said they Play more of Pac songs overseas than any other is right. I’m from Ghana and they play Pac songs here more than any American rapper dead or alive.
Also from Ghana. You are right. I remember in 96 we did a big funeral for Pac in Kumasi, Ghana when he died. This has not being done for any celebrity in the world. We have to skip school and attend PAC's funeral where they only played his songs to the next day.PAC is more than Hiphop
Pac has more body of work than these rappers and is worldwide known and celebrated these dudes were in their feelings with this conversation and I'm a Brooklyn dude
I live in Vienna, Europe and I can tell you that PAC has here way more bigger influence than any other rapper ever. For me personally the best hip hop song which was ever made is "Dear Mama". Till to this day I cry every time I hear this song. I´m 42 now and that's how you know greatness. RIP Pac, BIG and BIG L and all the other brothers and sisters that we lost.
To Math Hoffa; not Pac because he did the movies, but Pac because we continue to relate to his "timeless" lyrical content. Pac appealed to the whole world. That's why he continues to be even more relevant than Michael Jackson. I am based in Botswana (Africa), and Pac continues to be played everywhere more than Big. Facts! Maybe Big was more of word play than Pac, but Pac = IMPACT. But I imagine a Pac-Big collabo album... We lost. Rest in Peace to them both...and much love from Botswana.
Super delusional , i just call them lame as" nigas. You think they play jay z? They cant find a song that can match and there is no Jay z song that can match dear mama or sone other pac hit songs.
I was in Walmart walking through the electronics section. And some white kid was trying out a stereo and he turns it on blast and Hard Knock life was playing and that was the first time I heard it. To me it hit me that he didn't put out a remake before to get attention. And that song is what got him the crossover attention he wanted. If you want to know how big these songs are research the billboard archives. They tell the truth.
He means Hard Knock Life Vol 2 the album. Its one of the biggest hiphop albums of all time. Then Cannon goes back to talking tracks. The tracks that play worldwide from that album are "Money Aint A Thing" and "Can I Get A"
Dear Mama, Brenda Had a Baby, So many Tears, Temptations, me against the world was all before death row. Great convo but PAC definitely made music for everyone to relate to on a broader spectrum. The gangsters, poor, nerds, ladies and outcast etc. all loved PAC. His impact was definitely 1 of a kind and expanded with movie, music and fashion being the first to popularize Versace in hip hop also being outspoken for his community not just behind a mic but in the community. 🐐🤷🏾♂️
They act like Pac was in a movie like Independence Day. I know people to this day that haven't seen Juice or Poetic Justice, but know Tupac from his music...
Pac is felt more worldwide because he spoke for disenfranchised people. Mexicans will always love Pac for "To Live and Die in LA" alone. When he shouted them out, they LOVED it. Then in other 3rd world countries where they still face oppression, class warfare and religious warfare, Pac had a unifying, "fight the power" kinda message that resonated with them. Biggie and Jay didn't have that. Nas did to some degree, but that kinda content came later after Pac was gone. None of those rappers can compete with Pac's personality and charisma, either. Big was very charismatic on record, but kinda laidback in person. Pac was live all the time and in every context. Yes, his stardom was bigger, but he created that stardom. That's not a fault. That's proof of his greatness. The other guys had the same opportunities... but Pac was too infectious.
I've traveled to Mexico, Thailand, Cuba, India, and some parts of Europe, and I've heard 2pac records being played in the clubs or even at bars just walking down the street. I've heard I get around a lot. I've never heard a biggie record. People in the 90's might know pac from the movies but when you hear these records all over the world and you look at the age group that's inside these buildings you can't say everyone in there has watched a 2pac movie. So its his music impact and his ability to make timeless music that still keeps him relevant after all these years.
im from east europe born in the 90s and before the internet started i can guarantee ppl were bumping only tupac. after that was ice cube but very rarely. up until the 2000s tupac was the main rap artist worldwide i guarantee
Yeah they trippin. I was listening to Pac music as a teen. When me against the world came out it was over. It became official that for sure Pac was my favorite rapper. Tupac rapped with the feelings that other men never rapped about. Listening to PAC was therapeutic for us who struggled as young black men especially. Also any culture of people from poverty could relate to the stuff that Pac was talking about. I love BIG and miss Big just as much as Pac. From an emotional perspective though. Pac hands down touches people souls. Only people who truly listened to Pacs music know this though. How can anyone who’s truly listened to Pacs content say otherwise. Pac got so much, even older people related to the stuff that Pac was saying back in the 90s.
But the shit he was spitting was fake that’s why a lot of people didn’t respect him even in the west when he was homie hopping crew to crew it’s facts check his history did he has some banging joints ? Yea he did was he 100% real no he wasn’t
Truth hurts. I love Jay. I love Big. Neither of them has a Dear Mama. That song is bigger, has more impact, and is more timeless than any other hip-hop record ever. It just is what it is. And Cannon is right, when you start trotting around the globe, you see that people love Pac on a whole other level.
Likewise. The first time I heard "It aint easy" was after Pac died. I was already a Pac fan but I knew he was on another level. I'm about to play it now.
@@josephswabe5584 The opening lines to that song!! MAN! I take a shot of Hennessy now I'm strong enough to face the madness Nickelbag full of cess weed last with hash Got a call from my niggas from the other side Two childhood friends just died I couldn't cry A damn shame when will we ever change And what remains from a 12 gauge to the brain...
Shid not just dear mama bro pac got white mans world bomb first to live and die in La how do you want it against all odds nun of them have those records
From Philly, we rocked with all Biggie's music starting with Party and BS and definitely banged Life After Death. But All Eyes on Me is still #1. Even songs that didn't make the radio like Picture Me Rollin . Pac is Jordan !!!
They listen to pac and literally have murals of pac in Bosnia Russia Serbia Brazil Haiti Cuba Alaska Antarctica Africa Spain everywhere when pac died people in all of those places literally shed tearsand felt a type of way 😥
When you have college universities (plural) offering 2pac courses, murals of him in different countries, music still sounding relevant today like it was just released yesterday; I don't understand why have this debate of who is the 🐐.
I was a kid in the 90's in Haiti and I knew who Tupac was because of his music. As a matter of fact I didn't even know about his movies until I came to the US. I didn't know about Biggie until I came to the US as well.
I’ll be honest, ain’t nobody trying to hear a hot 16 when they’re going through it, which explains Tupac’s popularity over all the others. His words were very powerful and potent. Also, he was a poet like none other. He was very versatile, mans had a song for everything. Quite frankly, I have not felt such force/impact since. Not even Nas makes me feel that way and he’s my favorite rapper of all.
Movies aside, here in Africa Pac is still the ish till this moment. We got news of Pac's death when we were at school and some people even absconded lessons that day. His influence is unmatched.
Facts… NY dudes were bias AF. Dude was telling them from traveling 2pac was worldwide & bigger. These NY dudes were 🧢INGGG. 2pac music impacted every generation & race everyone could relate & feel his music .
Pac the 🐐, he’s in class by himself, truly poetry. When he died there were makaveli mixtapes dropping every month with unreleased verses. The shit that dropped after he died had mad hits
How can these guys be an authority on rap and our music culture when they.can’t come to grips with the fact that PAC talent is unmatched and his impact and influence in rap can’t be compared to anyone in his era. Props to BIG but he doesn’t compare.
@@chrome_hitz if your a “HATER” just say that! I can’t even have a conversation with someone like you smh…. Wtf have you done in your life that makes you feel you can hate on a brother that touched people musically over the entire world💯 from the moment u said that wack ass comment you lost all credibility #DoBetter #SMH
@@chrome_hitz he been gone for “26 yrs” and we’re still talking about him! Ull be lucky if the love of your life right now would still be talking about u 26 days after u pass! It’s just something about a nigga trying to discredit someone for no reason! Ull have to put a gun to my head and make me hate on a nigga. Besides that ima give credit where it’s due…. But you? All it took was for u to wake up and come in the comment section of a random video 🤦🏿♂️
Pac had so many layers to his music, Makavelli talks about everything, goin on in the world at that time, and now, it wasn’t just drama and beef, he also fed us knowledge as well, he was way ahead of his time. 👑
Makaveli was probably his best album but what was funny bout that time he talked about he wasn’t telling how NY rappers was naming themselves after Italian gangsters but then also took a name from a Italian
@@MrWARBUCKS24 yeah but he also said that the Italian men he speak of were great men and that he followed great people, studied them until they weren't great to him anymore.
Love NYC, I'm from Brooklyn NY, live in Queens, travel through these boroughs 43 years old and still counting my blessings!!Mr.Shakur is hands down the One!!! R u still down double album was unmatched as well...New York got bullet proof love For the Brother Pac🙏🏿
Hey yo I'm from Nigeria and I can categorically tell you that many people only started knowing about Rappers like Jay Z and Biggie from the early 2000s. In fact at a point in time many people especially in Western Africa thought Tupac started Rap.
My bro, chop knuckle!! I remember when pac died, the guardian newspaper had a whole front cover of Pac. These NY niggaz minds are so myopic , they need to move out their hoods to experience the world. Pac was on another level.
@Jibreel Al-Ameen not started I'm sure that was just an exagerration. But his influence was on another level only pple that had that was Michael Jackson and Bob Marley and Coca cola
@eghosa Agbontaen Not an exaggeration. Facts not until when CDs and CD players started coming out before a lot of folks knew about other rappers. Only few hardcore lovers of hip-hop actually knew otherwise
Really shocked at the ignorance of Pac’s catalogue by MEO crew. They act like pac was who he was because of movies and not diamond albums anthems and lyrics. Their credibility in regards to hip hop is questionable.
What did they have to say he got robbed and shot by niggas he was hanging out with but he chose to take out his frustrations on them a lil weird don’t u think
Lol none of them were quite. Especially BIG and if pac know any better his ass wouldn't have gotten killed. He ran into some gangsters. Not just the one who set him up to take a rape charge.
It never fails. Alot of people from NY never give Tupac his respect. Knowing that they was listening to Tupac before Jay Z , and Biggie stepped on the scene. As well as Nas , and little Wayne. To this day Tupac is more relevant then everyone that I just mentioned. Tupacs Album Me against the world went platinum when he was I jail. An album to this day you can listen to without skipping a song.
NY just can't deal with the fact he took the game and gave it to the westcoast, being an NY guy himself😂😂. 2pac Amaru Shakur is the greatest Rap artiste ever.
Pac music always helped me get through tough times..his music hits different always did..Pac is the real Mike Jordan of the mic recordings..his impact globally is bigger then anyone’s.
If he’s really a dj he knows Pac might have 3 -4 songs that really hit hard in a club no good dj is playing Brenda’s got a baby or any of that soul touching Pac shit ppl rave about
Fam, every year for Mothers Day everybody plays or hears DEAR MAMA at least once or twice that day. Idc where you are , what your doing , where you are going. You will hear that song or you have dedicated that song to your mom Atleast 1 time. PAC had the ability to make you FEEL, & he lived & spoke how he felt. Pac also grew up on the East Coast & West Coast , he seen that no matter what hood you lived in, we dealt with the same realities & issues, especially at a time when HipHop was extremely territorial . PAC was different
Tupac Listen Let’s be friends the original version if he would have lived man 4million records in jail beat out bono u2 biggie even listen to makaveli album biggie studied 2pac
@@stephenchisadza4975 facts. And that’s what I mean too. His up bringing he experienced all these different places. Cause back then everybody in HipHop was super territorial. It was all about reppin ya city & hood. Pac repped every hood, he spoke on the black struggle no matter what city/hood you was from. Thug Life was created to connect every hood together.
Pac's "Me Against The World" is better than all of biggie and Jay-Z albums. Pac rapped about love, remembrance, paid homage to old school rappers, being paranoid, if he died, the government, etc. This is an album you can listen to and really feel it. You become the person in his music. If you haven't listened to it, do that and then tell me I'm wrong.
Im glad 😊 somebody said it, they be disrespecting Pac the greatest ever. Everyone be trying to put Biggie and Jay-Z over him but none of them, none was bigger than Pac in rap, more lyrical or creative, a rap genius, a phenomenon 💯👊🏾💪🏾
NY people are self absorbed. Tupac was the biggest rap star worldwide ever, even bigger than Wu Tang. When Pac was around who was out there claiming best rapper. I grew up across the Atlantic speaking a different language and Tupac was still the biggest rapper for us.
Pac made different music from talking about gangsta shit to black revolution to giving love and appreciation to his mother and mothers around the world. Biggie made more grimey hustler that made it type of music. No disrespect to that at all because I say biggie is the better lyricist out of the two but Pac made way more relatable music that touched EVERYBODY. Salute to both of the legends. Rest in everlasting peace. 🖤
Well said, Math Kinda low key hating on Pac. Biggie was great no doubt about it, but Pac been mention on more podcast and other sites since his death, hard to deny that.
@@deegee2874 the rest of the world disagrees with what "NYC " calls lyricism. "Im slamming niggaz like Shaquille ish is real" isn't crazy lyricism. Yall really over exaggerate Big in NY but he was a great rapper don't get me wrong but Pac was a better artist based on strength of delivery, diversity in subject matter, and the ability to create a message that was worldwide relatable and relevant not just 90s hustler.
As a New Yorker they don't represent all New Yorkers. Even Fat Joe said it he was in Harlem with Biggie and dudes would blast Hit Em' Up right in front of Biggie, mad disrespectful 🤣 (New Yorker are like that sometimes) Some fell for the East Coast/West Coast shit but most of us loved Pac. Even Pac knew it, he came out still got love in the middle of that craziness. I wouldn't say he was a lyricist but he did had lyrics and had some of the most profound songs.
Pac’s subject matter alone is just beyond… His range was unmatched. He had music your mom and grandma could rock with. Pac had music for the whole hood from the civilians to the hustlas, to the gangstas and thugs. He had joints for the ladies, the revolutionaries, the freaks, the emcees, those in mourning…and we talking just 5 short years of music making and most of it before he reached the age of 25.
Skip to the 12:29 if you want facts from feelings. I just learnt a lot from the guy that was spitting facts and stuck to the truth and ignored the obvious bias and ignorance of everyone else in the room. he did not go off who he liked more he just kept it a buck. niggaz have came to the conclusion that dissing or downplaying PACs impact and influence can gain them clout, thats all this blatant ignorance was based off of. kudos to the DJ guy.
Many say Tupac’s lyrics were basic which is far from the truth, but lets say they were the fact that he could make you FEEL exactly what he was rapping about is what makes him the best to ever do it. Here and in any part of the world Tupacs legacy is still going strong
It was more so his limited vocabulary and lack of flow. You could predict how he ended alot of his bars. That's what made it basic. He definitely moved me with his subject matter and voice though. I get chills to this day still hearing PAIN from Above The Rim
Me Against the World almost went triple platinum while he was in jail, out selling Ready to Die. Ready to Die didn't really start selling until Flava in Your Ear remix came out where Biggie was a feature.
I’m glad Don Cannon is letting them know that Jay and Biggie don’t have a bigger record then Tupac and those other two are legends with out a doubt Cannon is the DJ and they trying to tell him what’s up 😂
See them una don come here come dey disgrace una self again, people have listening to rap music and it didn't start with jayz , if you were a child and started listening to jayz that is on you and not others bruh
@@stephoneyoungblood2059 Well, I'm not sure but I think "Emipire State of Mind" featuring Alicia Keys is Hovs biggest record. Correct me if I'm wrong but still, even that is not as big as California Love or other Tupac records. And I'm an East Coast nigga all day. Thing is, I lived abroad for 15 years in East Asia. Don Cannon is telling the absolute truth.
Ninja you must be young.. don't you know #HardKnockLife won all type of #Grammys..ask which #Pac song did that🤔🤔and I'm a big time #Pac fan that was In the store line when the cassette tape for #Alleyes on me was put on the shelf in the record store
Am from Jamaica🇯🇲 and I can tell you for free that Tupac movie stardom has nothing to do with how loved he is out here poor reasoning by new yorkers look at nick cannon very popular cause of his movies but we aint out here listening to his music Tupac captivated our souls and mind B.I.G and Jay-z are just flavours Pac is the main course you cant separate the man from his legacy but B.I.G and Jay-Z were just corner rappers who made it big 2pac is a whole generation that keeps transcending to the newer generation 2pac is the Bob Marley of rap
I think it's very dishonorable the way New York brothers belittle and dismiss Tupac's contributions to hip hop as a lyricist. Yes, he was a charismatic star across the board and he also was a wordsmith. The man could spit period.
He's not lying about Pac being massive around the world. Witnessed it myself in multiple countries. Those other guys don't hit like that with them and it's not because of movies.
You're right boss. I'm from Brooklyn and Jay is one of the best but none of his music compares to Tupac on a scale and impact level. There are a million better lyricists than Pac but no ones music travels like his. I say this as a 50yr old that was in the Air Force for 26 years and spent 18 of those years overseas and traveled to over 25 countries. Pac's music is everywhere and no matter how much I love Big, Jay, & Nas as a New Yorker those cats are wrong. Don Cannon was on point and so are you. Some of these folks never really been out of the country or their state like that so they don't know.
All eyes on Me is way greater than any biggie album. Math you tripping bad!! Dude was right, Pac had us all down south, he had the West, Midwest, everything overseas!! I’m 50 and Pac was our leader and we wanted to be just like him in every way!!!
Most East coast Kats are bias as hell! I used to argue this same point about Pac and dudes thought I was crazy! Pac had a broader view of the world in his lyrics than Biggie so, he resonated more!
i'm in South Africa and weloved Tu Pac for his music and it had nothing to do with his movies..Tu Pac resonated with us in a way that no artist ever has..i sense ignorance and jealousy from these NYC dudes..The world is bigger than New York
I'm from St. Louis we are all Pac here. We have some Jay fans, but you polled the city Pac wins hands down. Big had Pac lyrically, but so many tears, dear moma, to my unborn child. Dude was on a different level than any rapper.
Respect to them brothers, all of them trying to stay loyal to NY, but 1 of them speaking the truth, and all of them know it! 2pac was and is the great to ever do it! We still talking bout Pac ta this day!
Listen I’m a back packer at heart but at the end of the day no emcee has ever made me feel there music more then 2pac he was the greatest rap artist of all time
@@ybklyn87 Im from n live in Detroit, we respect Big..but LOVE PAC...lived in Texas...they LOVE PAC n don't really fk wit Big...just think he did Brenda's Got A Baby, Dear Mama, Changes....and wasn't even 25 yrs old yet!! Show me any young dude that age on that kinda tip..I'll wait 🤔🤔🤔
PAC is more than a rapper. I listen to him when I am sad, happy, sober, hyped, high, depressed and in many situations. PAC is more popular in Africa than any other rapper.
I’m southern 43 yrs born 1980 I’m tell you know Math biggie and Jay z couldn’t be in the same conversation with PAC in the 90’s in Atlanta trust me they had no control over the south like he did 🤷🏾
The disrespect for Tupac's discography is absurd. These dudes don't even know Pac 's catalog besides the popular songs. These guys never heard hell raiser, they never heard tradin war stories, they never heard teardrops and closed caskets, they never heard the real joints but they be sittin here talking crazy
Hov is my favorite now! 🐐! But PAC back then… BOYYYYY!! PAC was more than a rapper. PAC was emotion, revolutionary, a movement! You felt Pac in your body!! ❤️ #RipPac !!!
Respectfully, No artist has more universal and international influence than Tupac. And it wasn’t due to movies but his message connected universally. It was soul music so it was felt even in parts and ethnicities that don’t speak English. And sonically "All eyez on me" was another level the way it was produced and the range of emotional reach. Outside of the tri state area Biggie was felt but nowhere as close in regards to relatability when compared to Pac. He didn’t have as much emotional depth and range. Pac had songs that empowered black women, fought white supremacy, displayed vulnerability, teen pregnancy etc.. and most of that was well before 25 when he died..that’s what you call emotional range. What artists was doing that at that age then or even now?? They were contemporaries but Pac exhibited other levels of artistry that not many has reached since with equal levels of creativity, charisma, and relatability. I’ve lived in America, Europe, and Africa and trust me he’s seen as hiphop’s messiah much like a Bob Marley or Jesus figure. He was a different breed.
I met pac 4 months before he passed and his presence was so empowering, i can only imagine how different it would be if he was here to lead his movement.
@@Cuauhtemoc3 yea he asked me n my friend if we liked his new album which was all eyes on me, then he said stay in school and be good and that was it….. he seemed happy and full of energy, kept a smile on his face 😔 the whole situation with him is just shitty and 25+yrs later still extremely sad. He was meant to lead but people’s ego’s and emotions are stronger than themselves most of the time so we do dumb shit and lose out in the end….. we lost.
It's funny just watching them perpetuating their ignorance. I'm from Nigeria 🇳🇬 and I can tell you wholeheartedly that pac's music was the bomb as far back as the 90s. He died way before people over here even knew he was a movie star. U can't hear pacs music without getting drawn to it. It speaks to you, it addresses and activates something in you. Pac is the GOAT worldwide hands down. These dudes needs to travel out and see for themselves, only then can they understand.
Latin heads in NY play way more Reggae than Hip Hop. I can't speak for all of them. Most play alot of music in the club. I've never seen any group pic one artist now of days
Mecca done lost his mind if he thinks Hard Knock Life is just as big, or bigger, than either California Love or How Do U Want It. I love HKL, and it did help Jay win commercial success, but those 2Pac records are just different. If we're talking worldwide, a record like "Changes" by 2Pac is one of the biggest songs in the last 20-plus years. 2Pac's Spotify numbers are way ahead of Jay-Z's and it's not close. Niggas still play songs like Ambitionz Az A Ridah. Nobody is riding around playing Reasonable Doubt or the Hard Knock Life album anymore. Jay had "in-the-moment" hit records, not "timeless" hit records like 2Pac.
Before 2pac’s death he wasn’t mentioned as one of the best rappers alive. He was a celebrity who rapped. Only NAS. BIG and Jay were in that conversation. If you under 45yrs old you can’t comprehend.
The disrespect for Tupac from NYC peeps is absurd and it needs to be called out. You can't sit there and tell me that the impact and influence that Pac has globally is cos of him doing movies. I'm from South Africa and I can tell you that I gravitated towards him cos of the gospel in his songs. Timeless classics that are still relevant to this day.
Tell them homeboy, we knew and loved Pac before we even saw his movies.
didn't even knew the guy had movies up until the mid 2000s lol they talkin hot garbage
It's funny just watching them perpetuating their ignorance. I'm from Nigeria 🇳🇬 and I can tell you wholeheartedly that pac's music was the bomb as far back as the 90s. He died way before people over here even knew he was a movie star. U can't hear pacs music without getting drawn to it. It speaks to you, it addresses and activates something in you. Pac is the GOAT worldwide hands down. These dudes needs to travel out and see for themselves, only then can they understand.
Thank you bro, I just posted a comment about this too, total disrespect for Pac.
Yea them New York niggas be selling out that’s why they love Jay Z so much that niggas a 50 year old sellout who still raps about selling dope at 50 years old… Tupac is the 🐐 period
Pac is a genre by himself. I listen to him when I need power. It never fails
If you love Tupac you'd fuck with Tha God Fahim heavy you won't be disappointed and he drops consistently has over 100+ albums
Facts
He made Warrior Music...SALUTE
I agree his music always hit me different…
@@burningspliffs mane that god is fye and so slept on #dumpgod
There's so many Pac songs you can listen to at different moods and times in your life. He touched people's hearts at so many level.
Facts! I remember talking to this dude in front of me in high school and he said the same thing and I had to agree, he said Pac has a song for everybody.... That is 100% correct.
Thank you Don Cannon for speaking true facts. At times in life, the truth is hard to swallow!
Pac passed at 25 years old & has more hits than most current rappers at 35. If he had 10 more years of music there’s no telling where we would place him.
how many hits did he really have at time of death?
That's real facts I like that comment
@@joejoiner8582 shit pac had nothing but hits I remember that shit 😂
😂😂😂😂he a straight clown
@@joejoiner8582 you must be young😆
I’m from NY, but a lot of people nowadays from NY don’t be wanting to admit that PAC is the greatest MC. If you travel the world you’ll see the influence, impact PAC has everywhere. Math ain’t right saying PAC is bigger cause of the movies nah that ain’t it big dawg, is cause of his music. None of the other MC’s y’all mentioned can come close to PAC globally! Some of us from the East coast just don’t like how PAC is from the East coast and rep West coast more after signing with Death Row.
It's true pac was big in London and when go Barbados to visit my mom pac always gets played. You have to travel to know. Wu-tang Clan also
F them new york nigas for hating on a rapper that no rapper can even come close to except Brother Nas, he is the only rapper that is close.
This guy never heard Ballad Of A Dead Soulja Orgiinal Version, U Can Be Touch OG, When Thugz Cry OG and over 200 unreleased songs in their OG versions
@@ducatarina please dont study those old bches , let me get to tupac music all those you just listed before heading to work.
Facts! 💯💯💯
It hurts these NYC dudes that someone from the city went against the grain of other NYC rappers and became bigger than the genre itself 🤷♀️ His impact is unmatched.
What are you talking about? Pac was born in NY bruh and him going against the grain is what all the rappers do now So what are you talking about? '50 Cent is is doing TVs and movies ....A lot of rappers are in movies now and then TV shows... LL Cool j etc...... Your statement makes no sense
@@bosshova23 Reading is fundamental sugar plum. Either you're addressing me as bruh to be disrespectful when I'm clearly a female or you can't read well. Secondly, I clearly said that he (Tupac) was from the city (NYC) and went against the grain of other NYC rappers at the time. You're repeating what I just said sweetie, and addressing me as if I didn't say it. All of these rappers now are following Pac's footsteps. Mmkay bye 😘
Pac from NY Baltimore or Sacramento depending on who in his family asked . Lol we good. Love his music boy was a genius nigga not from the town tho
@Bobby Flynn you show me Pac acknowledging NY maybe we talk . Of course he was visiting the entertainment capital at the time as a musician. Lol it's love jus don't want him
@@jahfballa3045 the song old school is a dedication to nyc hip hop bro
They actually said life after death is better than All eyes on me 😂😂😂 these guys are insane
😂 yeah that New York bud is laced
Yea they trippin hard asf
IT IS if you have a brain
@@Conradcockhardit ain’t if you have a soul
People are biased on both coasts, ask someone who is from the Midwest or South for a non biased answer.
I don't even debate about Pac anymore his name comes up everyday in every city around the world in multiple conversations. He's been gone since 96 and his name still ruffles feathers. Pac is the G.O.A.T.
I’m a 99 baby and from what I seen and learned from my perspective pac the goat the message to out weighed a lot of people’s talents to me like I’ll say lyrically big is better but pac message just surpassed bigs lyrics and flow pac died in 96 shit he was saying then it’s either happening now or still happening to us he was a black leader and died a thug rest easy in Thugz mansion
Facts frfr 2Pac the Goat
@@kariblack298 👍🏿
@@donmathew9788 👍🏿
THANK YOU 💯💯💯
This is what settles it for me. You don't get Ready To Die without Me Against The World and there's no Life After Death without All Eyes On Me. Pac is the single most influential rapper in hip hop history.
Pac said BIG took his shit on LAD, and it sounded like pac’s album. So you are correct
@@jvnwesterhof I remember when I heard LAD and said "Damn this sound like Me Against the World"
Pac Is Jordan Big is Kobe Jay Is Lebron Nas Is KD
On GOD ✌🏾💪🏾💯
Bro, Me Against The World came out AFTER Ready To Die
The main question I get from ppl around the world is "wat was 2pac like?" - Mike Tyson
I’m glad Buddy realize the world sees Pac as the goat. I’m from south flo, We ain’t really bump Jay Z, I loved Biggie but All Eyez On Me was INSANE! Even without the movies his music was incredible because of the heart in his music. He was the Huey Newton of music to a lot of people. He cared about his people. Him just talking is more intriguing than a lot of rappers whole albums.
facts im from the South, we didn't play Big or Jay music in our clubs like that, we played hella Pac music
@ I feel ya where you from? after pac We was playing Trick then No limit and Cash Money
Math was dissing Pac at first, but when the brotha across from him came with Pac receipts, all of a sudden Math was inspired by Pac 🤣🤣
Clown shit 💯
Facts … math is a clown for real
@@papiking1991 no doubt!
Math was at school on that day. He had to learn.
To be fair Math always acknowledged Pac was the bigger rapper, but he just makes up dumb excuses as to why 😂
Pac is the definition of timeless. His music from back then still resonates with what's happening today
And Biggie songs don't?
@@d.felixphoto2260 he's songs do but Tupac just hit different 🤷
@@secondshosecondsho3353 depends on where you from.
A lot of 90's songs are relevant to what's going on today.
@@Locococo000-j2d that's a fact
Pac album R u still down is a classic double disc. People seem to forget that album. Go back and listen. Every song is 🔥
Facts
Very underrated, ppl thought it was a cash grab and skipped past it. I was released too soon after his passing.
@@EvolutionArtsllc And those songs were from before Death Row.
My favorite era of Pac. Pre-Death Row. Most people love the Death Row stuff but Pac the artist came thru in his work on Me Against The World, Thug Life, and the songs from R U Still Down.
I just wrote about that album, that's a no skip album and to me arguably better than all eyez on me
These NY dudes wouldn't be saying none of this if Pac was still here. The hate is just unreal. Pac's music had meaning and was very ImPACtful. Pac is timeless. Pac is the 🐐. Hands down 25+ years later. RIP Pac!
"They talk a lot of s**t but that's after I'm gone. Because they fear me in the physical form" - Tupac Amaru Shakur
The man that said they Play more of Pac songs overseas than any other is right. I’m from Ghana and they play Pac songs here more than any American rapper dead or alive.
Cap
FACT
It's exactly the same in Nigeria 🇳🇬
Also from Ghana. You are right. I remember in 96 we did a big funeral for Pac in Kumasi, Ghana when he died. This has not being done for any celebrity in the world. We have to skip school and attend PAC's funeral where they only played his songs to the next day.PAC is more than Hiphop
They were playing "Picture Me Rollin" in Georgia's locker room. Georgia the country. Their ⚽️ team
Pac’s replay value is unmatched
Not really
Not at all actually
@@fruitpac You just a hater 😂
@@fruitpac u made a whole hate account over someone who wasnt part of your lifetime😂 gay asl
Only rapper I can have on for 12 hrs a day 😂
PAC is Jordan you can choose whoever after that
I'm 31 and get it they still confused on that all these years later🤯🤯🤯
That's how great pac was
Couldn’t have said it better
Jordan = Pac
Kobe = Em
Lebron = Kanye
BIG is probly Hakeem and Jay might be curry
@@UseHERname93 if 2Pac Jordan, then Biggie Kobe, Nas is Magic, Jay Z is Kareem, Em is Bird, Lil Wayne is Lebron
Pac has more body of work than these rappers and is worldwide known and celebrated these dudes were in their feelings with this conversation and I'm a Brooklyn dude
I live in Vienna, Europe and I can tell you that PAC has here way more bigger influence than any other rapper ever. For me personally the best hip hop song which was ever made is "Dear Mama". Till to this day I cry every time I hear this song. I´m 42 now and that's how you know greatness. RIP Pac, BIG and BIG L and all the other brothers and sisters that we lost.
To Math Hoffa; not Pac because he did the movies, but Pac because we continue to relate to his "timeless" lyrical content. Pac appealed to the whole world. That's why he continues to be even more relevant than Michael Jackson.
I am based in Botswana (Africa), and Pac continues to be played everywhere more than Big. Facts! Maybe Big was more of word play than Pac, but Pac = IMPACT.
But I imagine a Pac-Big collabo album... We lost. Rest in Peace to them both...and much love from Botswana.
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If biased was a person
Pac is the bigger artist than Big an Jayz in my opinion
Same 🇹🇿 pac world wide pac music touch people's lives
As a New Yorker I really didn't realize how delusional some of us really are. He really compared Hard Knock Life to some of Tupac's songs wow
Lol
Super delusional , i just call them lame as" nigas. You think they play jay z? They cant find a song that can match and there is no Jay z song that can match dear mama or sone other pac hit songs.
I was in Walmart walking through the electronics section. And some white kid was trying out a stereo and he turns it on blast and Hard Knock life was playing and that was the first time I heard it. To me it hit me that he didn't put out a remake before to get attention. And that song is what got him the crossover attention he wanted. If you want to know how big these songs are research the billboard archives. They tell the truth.
😂
He means Hard Knock Life Vol 2 the album. Its one of the biggest hiphop albums of all time. Then Cannon goes back to talking tracks. The tracks that play worldwide from that album are "Money Aint A Thing" and "Can I Get A"
Dear Mama, Brenda Had a Baby, So many Tears, Temptations, me against the world was all before death row. Great convo but PAC definitely made music for everyone to relate to on a broader spectrum. The gangsters, poor, nerds, ladies and outcast etc. all loved PAC. His impact was definitely 1 of a kind and expanded with movie, music and fashion being the first to popularize Versace in hip hop also being outspoken for his community not just behind a mic but in the community. 🐐🤷🏾♂️
Changes is his biggest song and he made in 91-92 before death row, even before Biggie drop Ready To Die or Party n Bullshit
them ny ninjas trippin
@@ducatarina It's not his biggest song. Stan It's Califonia Love and changes wasn't released until 2 years after he died. BIG is the better rapper
@@fruitpac Your opinion don't matter little MF
@@ducatarina spoken like true 2Gay bıtchboy. Your life don't even matter you pos
They act like Pac was in a movie like Independence Day. I know people to this day that haven't seen Juice or Poetic Justice, but know Tupac from his music...
Must be white ppl because who haven’t seen those movies from the culture 🙄
Pac is felt more worldwide because he spoke for disenfranchised people. Mexicans will always love Pac for "To Live and Die in LA" alone. When he shouted them out, they LOVED it. Then in other 3rd world countries where they still face oppression, class warfare and religious warfare, Pac had a unifying, "fight the power" kinda message that resonated with them. Biggie and Jay didn't have that. Nas did to some degree, but that kinda content came later after Pac was gone. None of those rappers can compete with Pac's personality and charisma, either. Big was very charismatic on record, but kinda laidback in person. Pac was live all the time and in every context. Yes, his stardom was bigger, but he created that stardom. That's not a fault. That's proof of his greatness. The other guys had the same opportunities... but Pac was too infectious.
ETERNAL SIDEWALK SALUTE 👤🏴MR.SHAKUR ✊🏿✌🏿
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These New York dudes that are older really cannot get the taste of Salt out of their mouths, when it comes to PAC. They just cannot let it go.
ORRR MAYBE…JUST MAYBE, WE DONT THINK PAC IS THAT GOOD 🤷🏾♂️
NY niggas fuck with pac
@@ybklyn87 yea then yall would be wrong
@@ybklyn87 Nah y’all most definitely know he the GOAT y’all just mad he shitted on y’all n never claimed y’all 😂 y’all still in y’all feelings
@@eastwood_ib2126 YEAH THATS WHY 😒
I've traveled to Mexico, Thailand, Cuba, India, and some parts of Europe, and I've heard 2pac records being played in the clubs or even at bars just walking down the street. I've heard I get around a lot. I've never heard a biggie record.
People in the 90's might know pac from the movies but when you hear these records all over the world and you look at the age group that's inside these buildings you can't say everyone in there has watched a 2pac movie. So its his music impact and his ability to make timeless music that still keeps him relevant after all these years.
Most people in europe have never seen nor heard of pac movies. They sure know the songs thow
im from east europe born in the 90s and before the internet started i can guarantee ppl were bumping only tupac. after that was ice cube but very rarely. up until the 2000s tupac was the main rap artist worldwide i guarantee
And Biggie records aren't.?
WHO TAUGHT US. ua-cam.com/video/XYbcw7txu5k/v-deo.html
Opposite in reality. Biggie records everywhere. In London right now and they have biggie nights in all the clubs. Not the same for pac
Yeah they trippin. I was listening to Pac music as a teen. When me against the world came out it was over. It became official that for sure Pac was my favorite rapper. Tupac rapped with the feelings that other men never rapped about. Listening to PAC was therapeutic for us who struggled as young black men especially. Also any culture of people from poverty could relate to the stuff that Pac was talking about. I love BIG and miss Big just as much as Pac. From an emotional perspective though. Pac hands down touches people souls. Only people who truly listened to Pacs music know this though. How can anyone who’s truly listened to Pacs content say otherwise. Pac got so much, even older people related to the stuff that Pac was saying back in the 90s.
Facts Bro nothing but truthful facts 👏🏾👏🏾👌🏾👌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
But the shit he was spitting was fake that’s why a lot of people didn’t respect him even in the west when he was homie hopping crew to crew it’s facts check his history did he has some banging joints ? Yea he did was he 100% real no he wasn’t
They say that cuz pac not a New York artist they kinda bias
Truth hurts. I love Jay. I love Big. Neither of them has a Dear Mama. That song is bigger, has more impact, and is more timeless than any other hip-hop record ever. It just is what it is. And Cannon is right, when you start trotting around the globe, you see that people love Pac on a whole other level.
Likewise. The first time I heard "It aint easy" was after Pac died. I was already a Pac fan but I knew he was on another level. I'm about to play it now.
@@josephswabe5584 The opening lines to that song!! MAN!
I take a shot of Hennessy now I'm strong enough to face the madness
Nickelbag full of cess weed last with hash
Got a call from my niggas from the other side
Two childhood friends just died
I couldn't cry
A damn shame when will we ever change
And what remains from a 12 gauge to the brain...
Shid not just dear mama bro pac got white mans world bomb first to live and die in La how do you want it against all odds nun of them have those records
Juicy is more impactful then dear mama . I’m sorry my brother .
Dear Mama, is the only rap song by a solo artist is registered and archived in library of Congress.
From Philly, we rocked with all Biggie's music starting with Party and BS and definitely banged Life After Death. But All Eyes on Me is still #1. Even songs that didn't make the radio like Picture Me Rollin . Pac is Jordan !!!
Jay is LeBron, due to longevity.
PAC WAS THE BKUE PRINT..HE EVEN HAD BIGGIE, JAY Z AND NAS WEARING BANDANAS..NAS GETTING TATTOOED UP
Facts
facts!
PAC Jordan Big Kobe Jay Lebron
They listen to pac and literally have murals of pac in Bosnia Russia Serbia Brazil Haiti Cuba Alaska Antarctica Africa Spain everywhere when pac died people in all of those places literally shed tearsand felt a type of way 😥
When you have college universities (plural) offering 2pac courses, murals of him in different countries, music still sounding relevant today like it was just released yesterday; I don't understand why have this debate of who is the 🐐.
I’m from the east coast and PAC had smash hits. Nas is my favorite but PAC was on a different level than the rest.
Facts
respect
Your nuts, you may be from the east, I'm thinking Rhode Island, but PAC was not part of the conversation in NY barbershops.
thank u
What level? Contradicting from power to street. Nas has those records and is very diverse, hence PAC studied Nas. So!I disagree.
I was a kid in the 90's in Haiti and I knew who Tupac was because of his music. As a matter of fact I didn't even know about his movies until I came to the US. I didn't know about Biggie until I came to the US as well.
All eyez on me was the first ever double cd for hip hop. PAC was just in his own lane. Successful in movies and music.
Facts
Not true at all buddy Tupac do not have the first double CD
@@michaelsavage8316who had the first then?
@@justinbell1840 Master P with Down South Hustlers
@ChrisM07 bro no one has heard of that album 😂
I’ll be honest, ain’t nobody trying to hear a hot 16 when they’re going through it, which explains Tupac’s popularity over all the others. His words were very powerful and potent. Also, he was a poet like none other. He was very versatile, mans had a song for everything. Quite frankly, I have not felt such force/impact since. Not even Nas makes me feel that way and he’s my favorite rapper of all.
Movies aside, here in Africa Pac is still the ish till this moment. We got news of Pac's death when we were at school and some people even absconded lessons that day. His influence is unmatched.
Can’t have a 2pac and biggie convo with 10 New York dudes smh
😂😂 facts
Fact's
Facts… NY dudes were bias AF. Dude was telling them from traveling 2pac was worldwide & bigger. These NY dudes were 🧢INGGG. 2pac music impacted every generation & race everyone could relate & feel his music .
Lol they just won’t understand 😂
Facts!!!!
Pac the 🐐, he’s in class by himself, truly poetry. When he died there were makaveli mixtapes dropping every month with unreleased verses. The shit that dropped after he died had mad hits
96 Big Body Sittin on Chrome
@@bowlerfamily still I rise... Poetic
How can these guys be an authority on rap and our music culture when they.can’t come to grips with the fact that PAC talent is unmatched and his impact and influence in rap can’t be compared to anyone in his era. Props to BIG but he doesn’t compare.
2pac impact and influence around the world is massive
Zero impact
@@chrome_hitz if your a “HATER” just say that! I can’t even have a conversation with someone like you smh…. Wtf have you done in your life that makes you feel you can hate on a brother that touched people musically over the entire world💯 from the moment u said that wack ass comment you lost all credibility #DoBetter #SMH
@@chrome_hitz stop hating
@@chrome_hitz he been gone for “26 yrs” and we’re still talking about him! Ull be lucky if the love of your life right now would still be talking about u 26 days after u pass! It’s just something about a nigga trying to discredit someone for no reason! Ull have to put a gun to my head and make me hate on a nigga. Besides that ima give credit where it’s due…. But you? All it took was for u to wake up and come in the comment section of a random video 🤦🏿♂️
@@chrome_hitz lol you a hater for real 🤣 😂
Pac had so many layers to his music, Makavelli talks about everything, goin on in the world at that time, and now, it wasn’t just drama and beef, he also fed us knowledge as well, he was way ahead of his time. 👑
Makaveli was probably his best album but what was funny bout that time he talked about he wasn’t telling how NY rappers was naming themselves after Italian gangsters but then also took a name from a Italian
@@MrWARBUCKS24 yeah but he also said that the Italian men he speak of were great men and that he followed great people, studied them until they weren't great to him anymore.
@@MrWARBUCKS24 love makaveli, but imo me against the world
Man was a prophet.
@@hansmransm8835I know that's right 💯 you better tell them💪🏾😎😉🤣😂....
Love NYC, I'm from Brooklyn NY, live in Queens, travel through these boroughs 43 years old and still counting my blessings!!Mr.Shakur is hands down the One!!! R u still down double album was unmatched as well...New York got bullet proof love For the Brother Pac🙏🏿
Hey yo I'm from Nigeria and I can categorically tell you that many people only started knowing about Rappers like Jay Z and Biggie from the early 2000s. In fact at a point in time many people especially in Western Africa thought Tupac started Rap.
My bro, chop knuckle!! I remember when pac died, the guardian newspaper had a whole front cover of Pac. These NY niggaz minds are so myopic , they need to move out their hoods to experience the world. Pac was on another level.
Dame y'all thought Pac started Rap, that's CRAZY
@Jibreel Al-Ameen not started I'm sure that was just an exagerration. But his influence was on another level only pple that had that was Michael Jackson and Bob Marley and Coca cola
@eghosa Agbontaen Not an exaggeration. Facts not until when CDs and CD players started coming out before a lot of folks knew about other rappers. Only few hardcore lovers of hip-hop actually knew otherwise
@@jibreelal-ameen7235 that’s to tell you the level of influence he heard the world is not limited to only ny not even the rap game
Really shocked at the ignorance of Pac’s catalogue by MEO crew. They act like pac was who he was because of movies and not diamond albums anthems and lyrics. Their credibility in regards to hip hop is questionable.
I concur.
It’s just hate man. The facts are undeniable
Exactly
ny haters of pac cos he outsold them. love dmx music but i remember when pac died x was replacement
Pac was more influential not for music but for who he was
Bigga is so pressed about any conversation about Pac, shit crazy. He didn’t say a word and you can tell he’s bothered
I Ain’t Even Peeped Till You Said It 😂
He stay hating Pac and West coast
Don't even know why Bigga is even on the Podcast..💯
He is still thinking about Tupac allegedly wanting to kill all the East Coast kids
On GOD 🤦🏽♀️✌🏾
Can’t take New York dudes seriously when it comes to Pac
Pac had everybody quiet when he was out hands down
He had Jay, Nas & B.I.G. silent.
What did they have to say he got robbed and shot by niggas he was hanging out with but he chose to take out his frustrations on them a lil weird don’t u think
Lol none of them were quite. Especially BIG and if pac know any better his ass wouldn't have gotten killed. He ran into some gangsters. Not just the one who set him up to take a rape charge.
You must have missed drop a gem on em by Mobb deep
tru but jayz "gift and curse" or outkast "speakerbox/love below" were arguably better or atleast as good as biggies double album
It never fails. Alot of people from NY never give Tupac his respect. Knowing that they was listening to Tupac before Jay Z , and Biggie stepped on the scene. As well as Nas , and little Wayne. To this day Tupac is more relevant then everyone that I just mentioned. Tupacs Album Me against the world went platinum when he was I jail. An album to this day you can listen to without skipping a song.
And pac from that bitvh 2😭
Some people just do whutever it take to walk around facts and facts is pac the goat smh
What was Tupac name before he used Tupac? MC New York. He was born in New York and then he moved to Baltimore. Moved out west when he turned 18
I'm surprised because I thought the bias had died down....guess not
Most of their favorite rappers idolize pac too.
NY just can't deal with the fact he took the game and gave it to the westcoast, being an NY guy himself😂😂. 2pac Amaru Shakur is the greatest Rap artiste ever.
Math disrespectful All eyes on me is the Greatest double album ever
“ HANDS DOWN! “
💯💯💯💯
You guys have to understand something we are from the East Coast. We don’t give a fuck about 2Pac bro.
@@freckhefner4019 speak for yourself homie
Wrong!! Wu-Tang forever is!!! 🖖🏿
Y'all buggin twin, PAC double disc is the pinnacle of perfection. Also first artist to put out a double disc CD.
Exactly!!! IMHO the greatest rap album of all time
Pac music always helped me get through tough times..his music hits different always did..Pac is the real Mike Jordan of the mic recordings..his impact globally is bigger then anyone’s.
they arguing with a worldwide dj who saw first hand the fans want pac
more than biggie, jay, nas, anybody.
Nobody in Europe or Africa knows this dude. His experience means nothing
If he’s really a dj he knows Pac might have 3 -4 songs that really hit hard in a club no good dj is playing Brenda’s got a baby or any of that soul touching Pac shit ppl rave about
Fam, every year for Mothers Day everybody plays or hears DEAR MAMA at least once or twice that day. Idc where you are , what your doing , where you are going. You will hear that song or you have dedicated that song to your mom Atleast 1 time.
PAC had the ability to make you FEEL, & he lived & spoke how he felt. Pac also grew up on the East Coast & West Coast , he seen that no matter what hood you lived in, we dealt with the same realities & issues, especially at a time when HipHop was extremely territorial . PAC was different
Tupac Listen Let’s be friends the original version if he would have lived man 4million records in jail beat out bono u2 biggie even listen to makaveli album biggie studied 2pac
Plus he had family in Atlanta, so he had influences from both coasts and the south
@@stephenchisadza4975 facts. And that’s what I mean too. His up bringing he experienced all these different places.
Cause back then everybody in HipHop was super territorial. It was all about reppin ya city & hood.
Pac repped every hood, he spoke on the black struggle no matter what city/hood you was from. Thug Life was created to connect every hood together.
Nobody plays "Song cry"
Pac did more for hip hop than any other artist. Sold more than Big and Jay. They were all shook when he was alive
Pac's "Me Against The World" is better than all of biggie and Jay-Z albums.
Pac rapped about love, remembrance, paid homage to old school rappers, being paranoid, if he died, the government, etc.
This is an album you can listen to and really feel it. You become the person in his music.
If you haven't listened to it, do that and then tell me I'm wrong.
Correct
@@Reggi_Sample💯
Bro Jay & Big ain't even coming close to his posthumous albums, that 'Until the end of Time' album is an absolute masterpiece.
FUCKIN FACTS
Big facts❤
The Pac disrespect will NOT be tolerated 👊🏾... and I'm a fan of both!
But if it's the TRUTH.. then what?? yall kill me with the Pac dick riding..🙄🤦🏿♂️
Math from Brooklyn so he gonna be biased smh .
@@zoningfam exactly the way he disrespected 2pac about the movies thing only tells me 1 thing
Real recognise real
@@reefykatu2749 biggie was pac’s little homegirl he wasn’t fucking with pac
@@zoningfam i was pointing that towards grass hoffa if he cant respect pac on a musical level
Then he not real
REAL RECOGNISE REAL
Im glad 😊 somebody said it, they be disrespecting Pac the greatest ever. Everyone be trying to put Biggie and Jay-Z over him but none of them, none was bigger than Pac in rap, more lyrical or creative, a rap genius, a phenomenon 💯👊🏾💪🏾
NY people are self absorbed. Tupac was the biggest rap star worldwide ever, even bigger than Wu Tang. When Pac was around who was out there claiming best rapper. I grew up across the Atlantic speaking a different language and Tupac was still the biggest rapper for us.
You're probably think you're right!
Pac made different music from talking about gangsta shit to black revolution to giving love and appreciation to his mother and mothers around the world. Biggie made more grimey hustler that made it type of music. No disrespect to that at all because I say biggie is the better lyricist out of the two but Pac made way more relatable music that touched EVERYBODY. Salute to both of the legends. Rest in everlasting peace. 🖤
FACTS 💯
He put life into those simple words...thats passion
Great statement
Just played “temptations”… liked Biggie however PAC over him
Well said, Math Kinda low key hating on Pac. Biggie was great no doubt about it, but Pac been mention on more podcast and other sites since his death, hard to deny that.
Yes Pac had the biggest records and versatility of records. I don't expect NY dudes to get it or agree but Don is right.
Nyc love PAC , but he was not and never been as good as a lyricist as Nas, jay or big
@@deegee2874 the rest of the world disagrees with what "NYC " calls lyricism. "Im slamming niggaz like Shaquille ish is real" isn't crazy lyricism. Yall really over exaggerate Big in NY but he was a great rapper don't get me wrong but Pac was a better artist based on strength of delivery, diversity in subject matter, and the ability to create a message that was worldwide relatable and relevant not just 90s hustler.
@@austinwilkes9851 dont speak for the rest of the world bro nas is better than pac im from the southern hemisphere
As a New Yorker they don't represent all New Yorkers. Even Fat Joe said it he was in Harlem with Biggie and dudes would blast Hit Em' Up right in front of Biggie, mad disrespectful 🤣 (New Yorker are like that sometimes) Some fell for the East Coast/West Coast shit but most of us loved Pac. Even Pac knew it, he came out still got love in the middle of that craziness. I wouldn't say he was a lyricist but he did had lyrics and had some of the most profound songs.
@@austinwilkes9851 💯💯💯 in the Midwest we listened to all regions.. but Pac was that guy in the Midwest
Pac’s subject matter alone is just beyond…
His range was unmatched. He had music your mom and grandma could rock with. Pac had music for the whole hood from the civilians to the hustlas, to the gangstas and thugs. He had joints for the ladies, the revolutionaries, the freaks, the emcees, those in mourning…and we talking just 5 short years of music making and most of it before he reached the age of 25.
And then you got Jay-Z. Who rapped for the hustlas.
FACTS NO COMPARISON
Skip to the 12:29 if you want facts from feelings. I just learnt a lot from the guy that was spitting facts and stuck to the truth and ignored the obvious bias and ignorance of everyone else in the room. he did not go off who he liked more he just kept it a buck. niggaz have came to the conclusion that dissing or downplaying PACs impact and influence can gain them clout, thats all this blatant ignorance was based off of. kudos to the DJ guy.
Many say Tupac’s lyrics were basic which is far from the truth, but lets say they were the fact that he could make you FEEL exactly what he was rapping about is what makes him the best to ever do it. Here and in any part of the world Tupacs legacy is still going strong
It was more so his limited vocabulary and lack of flow. You could predict how he ended alot of his bars. That's what made it basic.
He definitely moved me with his subject matter and voice though. I get chills to this day still hearing PAIN from Above The Rim
@@AphasicMute listen to If I Die 2Nite.
@@AphasicMute Biggie couldn’t do alliteration and I’m a rap STAN.
@AphasicMute Lol me too...dude had a powerful voice
PAC and basic don’t belong in the same sentence. And dude said he didn’t have flow????? Do you even know what flow means??? Lmao
Don Cannon got a FAN in Me.. He's Speaking Facts about Pac
All eyes on me sold 10.6 million Life after death sold 6. 8million not even close men lie women lie numbers don't
You got that wrong. Life after death went diamond in 2000 All eyez on me went daimond in 2014 ...
Me Against the World almost went triple platinum while he was in jail, out selling Ready to Die. Ready to Die didn't really start selling until Flava in Your Ear remix came out where Biggie was a feature.
Nobody could ever do what 2pac did in such a short time
I’m glad Don Cannon is letting them know that Jay and Biggie don’t have a bigger record then Tupac and those other two are legends with out a doubt Cannon is the DJ and they trying to tell him what’s up 😂
He’s full of shit I can almost guarantee when he’s not playing more 2Pac then Biggie or Jay unless he’s somewhere in Cali or on the west coast
Because they are bias and let their opinions blind them from seeing the reality ! Like you said he’s a DJ he’s just giving the facts 😂
@@HDot86 exactly you can tell when it’s bias but it’s all good Cannon had to correct them 😂
Juicy was bigger than every pac record still to this date
See them una don come here come dey disgrace una self again, people have listening to rap music and it didn't start with jayz , if you were a child and started listening to jayz that is on you and not others bruh
This ninja said he’ll put hard knock life next to any of Pac’s biggest song 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bra I was crying😭nigga said hard knock life against dear momma😭😭
I cringed so hard 🤪
I think hard knock life is jay z biggest record but pac has plenty of those
@@stephoneyoungblood2059 Well, I'm not sure but I think "Emipire State of Mind" featuring Alicia Keys is Hovs biggest record. Correct me if I'm wrong but still, even that is not as big as California Love or other Tupac records. And I'm an East Coast nigga all day. Thing is, I lived abroad for 15 years in East Asia. Don Cannon is telling the absolute truth.
Ninja you must be young.. don't you know #HardKnockLife won all type of #Grammys..ask which #Pac song did that🤔🤔and I'm a big time #Pac fan that was In the store line when the cassette tape for #Alleyes on me was put on the shelf in the record store
2Pac Been Gone For a Long Time and He Still is 1 of The Best ....
He's not top 10
@@chrome_hitz yea I agree, he is top 3
@@chrome_hitzYeah you love Lil Nas X huh?
@@chrome_hitz he's #1
Am from Jamaica🇯🇲 and I can tell you for free that Tupac movie stardom has nothing to do with how loved he is out here poor reasoning by new yorkers look at nick cannon very popular cause of his movies but we aint out here listening to his music Tupac captivated our souls and mind B.I.G and Jay-z are just flavours Pac is the main course you cant separate the man from his legacy but B.I.G and Jay-Z were just corner rappers who made it big 2pac is a whole generation that keeps transcending to the newer generation 2pac is the Bob Marley of rap
I think it's very dishonorable the way New York brothers belittle and dismiss Tupac's contributions to hip hop as a lyricist. Yes, he was a charismatic star across the board and he also was a wordsmith. The man could spit period.
So Many Tears alone beat anything in Jay-Z and Biggie whole catalog
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Fuck outta here. D'evils shits on so many tears easily
Nah, I wouldn't go that far. It's a classic track though.
@@TheWuCepticon1981 Maan Are you kidding? They way Pac flowed over that go listen to that Biggie and Jay not deep like that
Still I rise, grab the mic OG, me against the world, if I die 2nite. Rappers that are very technical lyrical tend to lack substance.
He's not lying about Pac being massive around the world. Witnessed it myself in multiple countries. Those other guys don't hit like that with them and it's not because of movies.
You're wrong
The brand of 2Pac is bigger then his music ever was
U right am from the carribean in the 90s only rapper we fuck with was pac he the rapper everyone wanted to be
@@MrWARBUCKS24 but his music alone was on fire!!!
You're right boss. I'm from Brooklyn and Jay is one of the best but none of his music compares to Tupac on a scale and impact level. There are a million better lyricists than Pac but no ones music travels like his. I say this as a 50yr old that was in the Air Force for 26 years and spent 18 of those years overseas and traveled to over 25 countries. Pac's music is everywhere and no matter how much I love Big, Jay, & Nas as a New Yorker those cats are wrong. Don Cannon was on point and so are you. Some of these folks never really been out of the country or their state like that so they don't know.
All eyes on Me is way greater than any biggie album. Math you tripping bad!! Dude was right, Pac had us all down south, he had the West, Midwest, everything overseas!! I’m 50 and Pac was our leader and we wanted to be just like him in every way!!!
Most East coast Kats are bias as hell! I used to argue this same point about Pac and dudes thought I was crazy! Pac had a broader view of the world in his lyrics than Biggie so, he resonated more!
No Big song was deeper than Dear Mama, So Many Tears, and Changes
Probably but Pac doesn't have a song as nice as unbelievable
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@@candidcamron1930 re listen to If I Die Tonight and It Ain't Easy...lyrical Pac🙌🏾
Who cares. All 3 songs were trash. Pac can't go song for song with big
You can watch dear mama reaction on UA-cam grown men cry
I’m from Europe and Pac is way more appreciated, and people don’t even know his movies like that. NY dudes need to stop hatin for real.
i'm in South Africa and weloved Tu Pac for his music and it had nothing to do with his movies..Tu Pac resonated with us in a way that no artist ever has..i sense ignorance and jealousy from these NYC dudes..The world is bigger than New York
I'm from St. Louis we are all Pac here. We have some Jay fans, but you polled the city Pac wins hands down. Big had Pac lyrically, but so many tears, dear moma, to my unborn child. Dude was on a different level than any rapper.
Respect to them brothers, all of them trying to stay loyal to NY, but 1 of them speaking the truth, and all of them know it! 2pac was and is the great to ever do it!
We still talking bout Pac ta this day!
New York industry guys seem to still hold a grudge against Pac even tho he has said a lot that he loves New York
Listen I’m a back packer at heart but at the end of the day no emcee has ever made me feel there music more then 2pac he was the greatest rap artist of all time
Big never made a song that can bring a grown man to tears
Lol
@@yoma3964 big was not a lyrical miracle rapper
Pause
U cry to rap songs fam?? U need help my brother lol
Never heard "Miss you ft 112" ?
I'm a NY cat, but New York bias all day on this debate 😂
It was so evident 🤣🤣 since he dropped Hit Em Up, New York refuses to give him his true props
Fasho
Woowee, biased af😭
PAC IS NOT ON THE LEVEL.
@@ybklyn87 Im from n live in Detroit, we respect Big..but LOVE PAC...lived in Texas...they LOVE PAC n don't really fk wit Big...just think he did Brenda's Got A Baby, Dear Mama, Changes....and wasn't even 25 yrs old yet!! Show me any young dude that age on that kinda tip..I'll wait 🤔🤔🤔
PAC is more than a rapper. I listen to him when I am sad, happy, sober, hyped, high, depressed and in many situations. PAC is more popular in Africa than any other rapper.
Pac got music for everything mane, he's too good 🤦🏿♂️.
I’m southern 43 yrs born 1980 I’m tell you know Math biggie and Jay z couldn’t be in the same conversation with PAC in the 90’s in Atlanta trust me they had no control over the south like he did 🤷🏾
The disrespect for Tupac's discography is absurd. These dudes don't even know Pac 's catalog besides the popular songs. These guys never heard hell raiser, they never heard tradin war stories, they never heard teardrops and closed caskets, they never heard the real joints but they be sittin here talking crazy
Who do u believe in!!!
Who fault is that? If pac was so good like he get praised, more people would know them songs. Quality over Quantity..
@@Dondemarcoo7 PAC got two diamond albums. Nobody on his level
"Even if I did die young? Who cares. All I ever got was mean mugs and cold stares".
@@Dondemarcoo7 nigga what? 😂😂😂
Hov is my favorite now! 🐐! But PAC back then… BOYYYYY!! PAC was more than a rapper. PAC was emotion, revolutionary, a movement! You felt Pac in your body!! ❤️ #RipPac !!!
N yo soul pac said himself he want us to feel whut he saying especially black people and the young bros
Not my Favorite PAC song but “Changes” still plays all over the world heavy rotation
That Nas disrespect is craaaaaazy! He is still I’ll go this day
He put Wayne over Nas😭
Exactly. Nas has to be the most under appreciated rapper ever.
@@stevenbridges7663 scarface
Respectfully,
No artist has more universal and international influence than Tupac. And it wasn’t due to movies but his message connected universally. It was soul music so it was felt even in parts and ethnicities that don’t speak English. And sonically "All eyez on me" was another level the way it was produced and the range of emotional reach. Outside of the tri state area Biggie was felt but nowhere as close in regards to relatability when compared to Pac. He didn’t have as much emotional depth and range. Pac had songs that empowered black women, fought white supremacy, displayed vulnerability, teen pregnancy etc.. and most of that was well before 25 when he died..that’s what you call emotional range. What artists was doing that at that age then or even now?? They were contemporaries but Pac exhibited other levels of artistry that not many has reached since with equal levels of creativity, charisma, and relatability. I’ve lived in America, Europe, and Africa and trust me he’s seen as hiphop’s messiah much like a Bob Marley or Jesus figure. He was a different breed.
I met pac 4 months before he passed and his presence was so empowering, i can only imagine how different it would be if he was here to lead his movement.
Man I wish I got meet him. Did he say anything to you?
@@Cuauhtemoc3 yea he asked me n my friend if we liked his new album which was all eyes on me, then he said stay in school and be good and that was it….. he seemed happy and full of energy, kept a smile on his face 😔 the whole situation with him is just shitty and 25+yrs later still extremely sad. He was meant to lead but people’s ego’s and emotions are stronger than themselves most of the time so we do dumb shit and lose out in the end….. we lost.
Pac was wiping the floor with biggie Jay Z and Nas at once!!!! Facts!!
And MOBB DEEP for good measure
It's funny just watching them perpetuating their ignorance. I'm from Nigeria 🇳🇬 and I can tell you wholeheartedly that pac's music was the bomb as far back as the 90s. He died way before people over here even knew he was a movie star. U can't hear pacs music without getting drawn to it. It speaks to you, it addresses and activates something in you. Pac is the GOAT worldwide hands down. These dudes needs to travel out and see for themselves, only then can they understand.
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He wasn't lying when he said the Latin community all got pac especially cali Latinos Mexicans love pac worlds greatest rapper🙏💯
Latin heads in NY play way more Reggae than Hip Hop. I can't speak for all of them. Most play alot of music in the club. I've never seen any group pic one artist now of days
No one can write another changes and another dear mama Tupac was a lyricist
Facts there is no record by those artists bigger than PAC “Dear Mama” PERIOD POINT BLANK
Jay being Jordan and Big being Kobe is backwards as hell 😂😂
Jay z is just as good as bolig if you break down lyrics
LOL horrible fuckin analogy
Exactly Big said it himself he’s Mike any one Tyson Jordan the Goat
Big might have the best flow of all time tho ngl. This coming from a Nas fan
Big is better than Jay-Z.. But because of his early passing we didn't get to see him blossom. We get to see Jay-Z as a 50 year old man.
Mecca done lost his mind if he thinks Hard Knock Life is just as big, or bigger, than either California Love or How Do U Want It. I love HKL, and it did help Jay win commercial success, but those 2Pac records are just different. If we're talking worldwide, a record like "Changes" by 2Pac is one of the biggest songs in the last 20-plus years. 2Pac's Spotify numbers are way ahead of Jay-Z's and it's not close. Niggas still play songs like Ambitionz Az A Ridah. Nobody is riding around playing Reasonable Doubt or the Hard Knock Life album anymore. Jay had "in-the-moment" hit records, not "timeless" hit records like 2Pac.
Before 2pac’s death he wasn’t mentioned as one of the best rappers alive. He was a celebrity who rapped. Only NAS. BIG and Jay were in that conversation. If you under 45yrs old you can’t comprehend.