Is 2Pac Still The G.O.A.T. Of Hip-Hop? | Bad Speakers Podcast
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- Опубліковано 7 січ 2022
- G. Downs & Ya Boi Shad debate wether or not Tupac Amaru Shakur is still G.O.A.T. of Hip-Hop.
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I grew up in the village of Africa. Almost all people knew Tupac. Till now, Tupac's music still play all the time in the radio.
You gotta play more than 3 songs.
Doesn't mean he is the best.
Same thing here in morocco
Amen brothers, Tupac forever... All the way out here in Africa, we identify with Tupac more than anyone else
I keep saying this all the time and I'm Nigerian. That man is the G.O.A.T.
2Pac is overrated he wasnt a lyricist yall just big him up because he died
He also got the most toxic dickriding worshipping fanbase you cant have a different opinion yall treat him like a god
@@allaboutthemurzic who do you think is the G.O.A.T?
I was alive when Tupac was rapping and his music lifted me up,because it reflected the strong side that I could as a young black man faced with the same challenges.
You are regurgitating some stupid things said by the stupid people you are following or listening to,what the fcuk is "Tupac was not a lyricist"?...the fact that you framed that sentence that way shows that you swallowed it from elsewhere,it's not original...everyone who writes songs/rap is writing lyrics,so how are they not "lyricists"...Get the fcuk out of here with that stupid nonsense
From south africa 100% true the greatest of all time
You don't speak for all africans
And 27 years later, we are still talking about him!!!! Everything said in this video is PURE FACTS!!! Man died at 25 yoooo! No social media, none of that, PURE WORK!!!
The older you get the more 2pac's lyrics makes sense 💯🙏
The older it get Pac's lyrics still are basic.
Pac was junk. He just had a lot of pain when he spoke. Y'all be getting all tingling inside like hoes.
Laughable...
Gtfoh!! 2 pac is the most overrated simple rap nigga ever!!!
The older you get,the more you realize tupacs lyrics were simplistic that any 12 year old could comprehend
2PAC GOAT. Period. Music still hits. Incredible flow and charisma.
Nah his shit not all that. Biggie better.
2Pac is overrated he wasnt a lyricist yall just big him up because he died
He also got the most toxic dickriding worshipping fanbase you cant have a different opinion yall treat him like a god
End of discussion, Biggie can't be better than his teacher. Without Tupac Biggie would be a nobody rapping about party bul!sh!t.
2pac is ok but he's not the goat. Biggie is better cuz he has better lyrics, content, & flow.
Even Nas is better than 2Pac
Thanks for keeping it real bro. People don't realize all the stuff Pac did and put out while having court cases and being locked up. And they be comparing Jay's and Em's 30 year careers to a 6 year career. It's not even a debate. Jay and Em are Hella dope, but Pac did more in 6 years then these rappers do in 50.
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2Pac is overrated he wasnt a lyricist yall just big him up because he died
He also got the most toxic dickriding worshipping fanbase you cant have a different opinion yall treat him like a god
And did all that shit before the internet
@@mrdjak1200 Ohh hell yeah I remember i bought my first album with my dad RIP when i was 10 years old! It was Still I Rise! Im 35 now and i never forget that!
He was a fake
2pac finished 7 day theory in 3 days. Production took 4. It took 7 days for completion.
And it sounds like it was written in 3 days
Who cares
@@100timessquare stay mad hater ha ha ha ha ha ha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. !!!!!!! Nobody remembers you now and your alive 😂😂😂ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .
Unbelievable Amazing Shit To Never Be DUPLICATED
classic
Tupac was an absolute phenomenon. Freak of nature.
Tupac is the most copied most talked about most celebrated most well known versatile rap artist of all time til this day that's what makes him the g.o.a.t. Tupac is a phenomenon he actually sparked the brain of the world like he said he would 💯💯💯
All yall 2Pac fanboys do is quote Pac. Pac didn't spark no brain and didn't change the world. Stop the bs.
2 pac is the most overrated rapper in history!!
Lol n yb n Jay-Z did? 😂😂
Pac spoke power the rest just talked bout drugs
Pac could had been a billion already if he was alive n how long it took Jay to blow up n thanks for a Harlem nigga 😂
Bro we Africans we see 2pac like the king of revolutionary and a pan Africanist. He is a true warrior. I love ❤️ him soooooooo much
we Africans. Tupac was a Pan Africanist.
2Pac definitely got Murals all in Germany Turkey Africa. Africa soldiers really look at Pac like a Hero Matyr. 2Pac is definitely ICONIC 🅰️➕
Pac did more by the age of 25 than any black celebrity ever in history it’s really mind boggling to think of all the music and movies he did in such a short period of time
What??? Michael Jackson, Sammy Davis Jr., Will Smith, Ice Cube, Run DMC, LL Cool J. Stop it you 2Pac fanboy. You comment tells me how ignorant and pathetic you are.
He did that because he always knew death was coming.
Any non-black celebrity too
Yeah he is Amazing! He’s by far the GOAT! Tupac is the best ever!
I can name 100 more artists that did way more than pac
No rapper ever made me cry but pac facts!!!!!
It has never been up for a debate!
The greatest rapper, dead or alive!
He actually recorded Makaveli in 3 days.
And it sounds like it...🤣🤣🤣
@100timessquare White Man'z World Is ONE OF THE GREATEST SONGS EVER WRITTEN Ur A CLOWN
@@sickkicksalwaysglobal1433Hold ya head too
2pac is to Hip-Hop what Bob Marley is to Reggae, Elvis to Rock, Shakespeare to Literature. 2pac Forever the G-O-A-T.
Lil Richard Created ROCK AND ROLL 😂
Bruh that's eminem
@@sickkicksalwaysglobal1433Several black ppl created Rock N Roll, Little Richard is one of them.
@@sickkicksalwaysglobal1433Chuck Berry created rock and roll.
@@adaminho8159🤣🤣🤣
The fact that this question is still being discussed 25 years later, for a man that died when he was 25 , answers the question itself.
It's crazy when people won't acknowledge 2pac is the Goat. Pac isn't just the greatest rapper ever, he's arguably the greatest artist America has ever produced.
Nobody compares to Tupac
Only Bob Marley
Dude was rap machine! Rest in peace to the 🐐 Thug Life Pac 💪💯💯
in ghana 🇬🇭 some high school students still call themselves Tupac, logos on public buses, still enjoy airtime play than most current rappers and above all his lyrics is still relevant than any current rapper. GOAT 🐐
Ty bro🙏 these young kids just don’t know😂 but they should.. and 25 years later he’s still relevant and will be in a hundred years
No he won’t his music ain’t even all that he was just the best in the 90s that’s why he so hyped.
@@sirfish9824 no nigga hes the best LOOOOL
2Pac is overrated he wasnt a lyricist yall just big him up because he died
He also got the most toxic dickriding worshipping fanbase you cant have a different opinion yall treat him like a god
@@bigmansdad810 No he is t
Still going harder than two freight trains
Tupac will always be the greatest the goat 🐐 of rap period!!!!!!
2PAC will always be da GOAT 🐐. 2PAC have curriculums taught after him in schools and universities. He is a LEGEND 4 A REASON. I WILL ALWAYS BE A SUPERFAN OF 2PAC 4 LIFE.
2Pac is overrated he wasnt a lyricist yall just big him up because he died
He also got the most toxic dickriding worshipping fanbase you cant have a different opinion yall treat him like a god
@@allaboutthemurzic you can say whatever da fuck u want, but 2PAC will always be da greatest lyricist EVER.
The greatest to ever do it
LMAO 2pac is no goat. Biggie is better cuz he has better lyrics, content & flow.
@@kokatwin2list 20 biggie bangers 😂
These 2 guys are on point tupac is the greatest rapper of all time facts rest in paradise makaveli the Don thugz for life
No one on the East coast will ever admit that even though he was born there. Lol. They can’t stomach it
Facts it’s a few ny niccas that clown other ny niccas letting them know pac was the best
2Pac will always be the GOAT of Hip-hop
Lol no
@@kokatwin2 LOL Yes!
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Never was the GOAT of anything except studio gangsters
@@3rdGenerationCancer Says who? "Kanserus" 😂
This is why I never argue with those who the greatest. When I go down the list they shut up. GOAT PAC
2Pac is overrated he wasnt a lyricist yall just big him up because he died
He also got the most toxic dickriding worshipping fanbase you cant have a different opinion yall treat him like a god
@@allaboutthemurzic You sound big mad. You need a hug.
@@MoeGreene5695 2pac is alright but he's not the goat.
Pac was literally black Jesus. He's the closest we'll ever get to that type of being.
Dickriding like crazy
He really wasn't!!!
Persecuted just like Jesus crucified by the media.
Aaaaaa man to this man about goat 2pac. He is on point about pacccccc
Until a 25 year old can achieve that much greatness in just 5 years of their career yes Pac is still the greatest
It's hard to believe that he was 25 then! He seemed and carried himself older
But why do we limit to 25. Cause a nas or jayz have 30 years of greatness. Career has a whole has far superceded pac musically (not in terms of impact but musically unquestionably).
@@t-4579 we limit to 25 coz that’s when pac died..at the age of 25…….where was jay z at 25? Where was Nas at 25?…none of them had artistically achieved as much as Pac had at that time and that’s not including the 5 movies Pac had already started or co-started in 🤯 now imagine if he had lived through 30 years of greatness. Within PAC’s short 5 year career he created a catalogue of 5 albums plus 5 more posthumous albums after his death. 5 years after his death he was the biggest selling rapper of all time..he record that had to be broken by Eminem
@@tupimpacaterpillar3516 yh but why u limit to 25. Its called greatest of all time. As in what u amassed over whole career. By 25 jay didnt even release album yet so already pointless.
Dont get me wrong pac did multiple lifetime of work by 25. But even then, nas by 25 made illmatic,iww and i am. He was better rapper than pac but pac was far mroe influential and significant. Since then nas has made more classics and dropping great albums 30 yrs in. We cant then act like his career from 25-50 never happened. Its like saying lebrons better than jordan cause by 25 he was better? U realise how dumb that is
@@tupimpacaterpillar3516 plus big reason why u put pac 1 and guys in vid was pac as a celebrity and icon rather than purely the musician. By 25 nas made greatest album in genres history, maybe best second album ever (to me second after life after death, i am a great album, and multiple amazing verses as guest (e.g wu mobb deep and az and more etc
2pac is the greatest rapper period no comparison.
We talkin about him damn near thirty years later, do we even have to answer this question😂😂🐐
Pac might not have been the greatest lyricist- not even close- but when it comes to writing a song- is there anyone even close to being better? And not even just rap- in any genre- he is arguably the greatest song writer of all time! #InPacWeTrust
Fck u mean not even close. Dude ia the greatest lyricist all time.
He was a great lyricist
@@THE1804SHOWCHAPTERTWO above average
Pac is the best lyricist of all time, he just the not most skilled based on him not using punchlines, metaphors and wasn’t super technical with the rhyme schemes.
But if you read Pac’s lyrics on paper, their better than any rapper in history
@@anthonycelestin3559
Maybe if you only have a fifth grade education. A Pac verse is elementary to a verse from Nas or Hov. Flow is light work compared to Big
Tupac is the greatest. I grew up on pac and he was ahead of his time then
2Pac is overrated he wasnt a lyricist yall just big him up because he died
He also got the most toxic dickriding worshipping fanbase you cant have a different opinion yall treat him like a god
He's ok but he's not the greatest
Makaveli was recorded for 3 days in mixed in 7, and all eyez on me was done in 2 weeks and the first hip-hop artist to do a double disc
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Tupac is the only Rapper that gave shout outs to every Producer that he worked with nd to every Rapper he ever met regardless of race or gender nd if don't believe me, pls check out Representating 93 or old school nd hear him shout out producers in his every song , G.O.A.T
Finally someone that says it the way it is and actually realises how old 2pac actually was
Pac was the chosen one for Rap / Hip Hop ... Plain and simple ... Just like Michael Jackson.... He was just the best ......
Nah! He was average...pretty wack when you really think about it
@@100timessquare 👎🏾🤡
Preach brother don't forget he was the first rapper to show tattoos he is the Remake King pay attention to his songs he got more remix of classic songs than anybody
Tupac is the greatest rapper of all time.
Never, hes just the most popular because people can digest ABC 123 rap more than rappers with true lyrical skill, deep technical talent and complex word play. Is lyrical talent was a school 2 Pac was still in elementary school, no where near the college students like Nas, JZ, Pun, BIG etc...
@@100timessquare it's easy to be lyrical when you're rapping about your gold chain, cars, selling drugs, and basically other people's lives. None of those dudes could make you feel their music like Tupac, he touched every subject you could think of and made you feel it, you must be a New York Dick Rider because everybody you name this New York. Biggie can't be better than his teacher, because without Tupac he'd be a average rapper still making Party and b******* type songs because he had no game.
@@100timessquare there's dudes out here with all type of complex word play but can't sell a album. All those things you name don't make a complete MC, as a matter of fact Nas himself said Tupac was the greatest of all time. And what about Eminem who's a great lyricist to your standards, he said Tupac was the greatest to ever do it and will always be boy
Great analysis... I always knew that... Big up
Tupac is the greatest. For the simple reason that if you end Jay z, nas, Snoop, Dre, wu tang, p diddy in 96 who really make them number 1 today but Tupac died in 96 and he's still in the conversation. Imagine Pac was still alive. 5 albums alive 6 albums After his death. While Jay and nas are 50 they made 13, 14 albums. Tupac had 20 Years advance of work
If Nas dies in 96 he dies with illmatic and it was written because of that people will make him number 1 because of the potential to be great for the same reason you just stated what if’s and potential to do more. Tupac is great don’t get me wrong but any one that dies on top gives you an advantage because you don’t get a chance to fall off.
@@nategrae6074 I think the point he was trying to make was more about the body of work Pac left behind and not only the body of work but the Quality of it. 2Pac is really one of the only artists I can think of especially rapper who's Posthumous work constantly topped billboard charts and was outselling current acts years after his demise. If any of those rappers died in 96 the same could not be said about them.
@@nategrae6074 come on bro,if nas would have died even after those albums he would not be talked about today. I'm from that era. Look at all these great rappers that died we don't speak about them like pac
2Pac is overrated he wasnt a lyricist yall just big him up because he died
He also got the most toxic dickriding worshipping fanbase you cant have a different opinion yall treat him like a god
@@allaboutthemurzic Pac was most definitely a lyricist that just wasn’t his focus point. Listen to Me Against the World, Pac focused on messages not useless wordplay and bars that meant nothing. People like you will say Pac isn’t the greatest rapper but will turn around and say he was just a poet. Just wait until you find out RAP stands for Rhythm and Poetry.
2pac had jayz scared in his hotel room
2pac will forever be the goat,the king of hip hop,because of his family background his life and trials being televised and because or his raw passionate unique rugged and empathetic persona,his knowledge and wisdom,his powerful voice,his educated respectful accurate way of speaking,his song topics and rhythms style,his charm,his look,I can go on and on,the man is a one of a kind legend like Bruce lee is to martial arts
All your reasons are bullshit
2Pac is overrated he wasnt a lyricist yall just big him up because he died
He also got the most toxic dickriding worshipping fanbase you cant have a different opinion yall treat him like a god
Pac is not the goat. Never was. Fake thug, didn't practice what he preached and feminine af.
At that time he was #1 in the game amongst his peers and they knew that. He can't be compared to anyone because he's in a class by himself. He has had more impact and influence than anyone
100%.
Nobody in Hip-Hop will ever surpass Tupac.
I was born in 1994, grew up around my older cousins so I got a chance to witness and understand the impact 2PAC really had the man is the Undisputed GOAT💯 he was just different 💫 and people talk about Jay Z they forget Jay Z didn’t get a name until 2Pac dissed him, nobody knew he was like that back then
2Pac is overrated he wasnt a lyricist yall just big him up because he died
He also got the most toxic dickriding worshipping fanbase you cant have a different opinion yall treat him like a god
You had to be there to really appreciate it tho. I was teenager when pac died.
@@thomaschatman3743 I agree
His top 3 list is on point
Man I love yall I need to find out about your podcast you speak straight facts!!!!
Thank u guys for this video, tupac was the greatest black man to walk the earth.
Keeping it real!!🥇🥇🥇🥇
PAC✊✊
Pac was a Malcolm X of Hip Hop
All of that was in a matter of 5 years… Pac is the GOAT 🐐
Awesome, video bro and that is true Tupac is still the biggest rapper in the world. Nobody comes close to him.
I’d say so. No disrespect to Nas, Eminem, Biggie, Jay, and everyone else in that discussion… but no one was as versatile
2pac is the Goat 🐐 his name is mention so much it's crazy
Great video
You’re right bro… 2pac is a legend
Ever since i started listening to people's analysis about 2Pac Being the G.O.A.T, these are the first 2 wisest people to touch the wisest point about why 2PAC AMARU SHAKUR is the greatest RAPPER of all time. His age (25years old) sooo much in a very short period of time men. Please everyone should learn from this two wise men😂😂😂😂😂. Take it or leave it 2PAC AMARU SHAKUR IS THE JUGGERNAUT OF THIS RAP SHIT.❤❤❤❤❤ MUCH LOVE 2 WISE MEN. PAC 4LIFE. Seriously i dont even know how and what i was thinking at my 25😂😂😂😂.
This was a great synopsis of PAC
Often imitated, but Tupac will never be duplicated he definitely one of a kind. Now don't get me wrong Biggie was a lyrical genius but he wasn't Pac equal. Nas was better than Biggie and Pac was the best to ever do it...
you definetly gain a fan!!!
Tupac is definitely the Goat of hip hop
Most quality material. Simple.
Thank you!!
And guess what? his music are still coming up and still banging !!!! 😁
Well said
Thank you thank you u aint never lie
The realest shit I ever heard,
Keep in mind that Pac Nem was learning on the fly these new rappers got 35 yrs of OG rappers mistakes to learn from 🎯🎯🎯🎯
Listen to 2Pac's; Death around the corner, Ambitions AZ A Ridah, Heartz of men, Street Fame, Crooked ni@ga too and tell me he's not lyrical.
The irony of the phrase
"They don’t talk right" 😄🤷🏻♂️
Pac is the fuck’n goat period!!!! I’m sorry but there’s no debate!
Who better
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@Aaron9 Nas is fire he’s number 4 on my list but he’s not better than Pac
PAC is the greatest of all time. Period
Forgot one of the greatest classic movies of all time poetic justice with the beautiful Janet Jackson.
Tupac is loved worldwide small villages in Pakistan have Tupacs name spray painted on walls Makaveli will never be forgotten nor will he lose the top spot as the greatest rap artist of all time.
Word 🐐🐐🐐
From Africa, PAC is more than Hiphop to us. We resonate with his lyrics and his struggles. PAC is the GOAT
Amen. Plus, how many records dropped after he passed?
Greatest Rapper of all-time died on March 9th. All respect due
2023 ISRAEL, AND EVERY TIME IM OUTSIDE I SEE SOMEONE WITH 2PAC SHIRTS
These are all facts!!!!
I personally think Tupac is a better Lyricist than biggie I think it's a gift and a curse that people get caught in his melody in his voice that sometimes people don't have pay attention to his lyrics he is lyrically nice
Right I said the same shit
2 Pac was a better lyricist than Biggie? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And he did ALL THAT SHIT ON TAPES. NO PROTOOLS. bruh would have recorded 75 songs a day if he had modern shit
Not to mention those unrealeased songs Johnny J got in the vault that never came out AND the songs That got burned in universal plus those features that some artist still got saved from the public.
Listen here! I'm 42 and here to tell you his unreleased songs hit almost just as hard as his known and released songs! I had an 11 cd set with nothing but his unreleased stuff 🔥🔥🔥😬...cds all scratched up and obsolete now 😅😅
MkII IN THE BACKGROUND
U are the best sir
They say "Jay-Z is the greatest rapper of all time, he 52 years old, he better be" I liked how he put that.😂😂
I'm picking it up listen to the album
FACTS!
Pac didn't lack lyrical ability it depends how you define lyricist and Tioac was the best lyricist that's why his regarded the best rapper of all time... I ain't no killer but don't push me revenge is like the sweetest joy like next to getting pussy, picture paragraphs unloaded wise words being quoted peep the weakness in this rap game sordid
My God that one verse could destroy a lot niggas in the game period.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that verse is trash!! You 2 Pac nut huggers are delusional!!
@@1969Makaveli that verse is 3rd grade shit....🤣🤣🤣🤣 2 pac was trash.
Bears dudes out here that can flip all type of lyrics but can't touch you to save their lives. Word play and metaphors don't make a song, just look at Jade kiss he's a great lyricist but he can't really write a song.
@@luthervandross4372 PAC was average lyrically , but people get tied into him emotionally
AGREED!!!!!!!!
Yes, 2pac is still the goat 🐐
RAPPER BETTER, BIGGER, I MEAN GREATER THAN PAC DONT EXIST. ❤❤
Speak bro!!!!!!
LL Cool J coined the GOAT term, but I give props to Pac. I think his public persona looms large alongside his music years later because of the substance in his lyrical content. There is a consistency and authenticity that bleeds thru alongside his passion in the music. And dying young IMO has encapsulated him into an era and time frame that feels timeless. I do wonder how he would have been in the social media era and if that medium would have changed him more to his fans or possibly turn folks off.
What's not more lyrical ,than rapping about things you can relate 2 right now. Come on biggie had suspect lyrics. Okay now Andre got lyrics that well surpass our life span. Real lyrics last forever.
without a doubt Pac is the GOAT.
Listen to life's goes on