Keto , low carb , animal based 3 years - lowered insulin to 1.5 - lost 40 plus pounds and kept it off ! 58 year old ! Now I can have that donut 🍩 or 2 here and there without setback ! Fat adapted , cognitive health improved , energy levels increased tremendously! Triglycerides 40s AIC 4.8 ! Don’t care if you agree or not with this protocol- it works for me ! Wish you all well .
Wow, such a low number. I can't get mine below 8. The physician's assistant that does my blood draw always asks why I want a fasting insulin test. "Your insulin is normal why do you want this?"
@@jselectronics8215 surprised it was that low myself . Had it redone 4x to make sure and 1.4 was my average w/the lowest at 1.1 . My A1c was 4.9. I believe my muscle mass absorbs a lot of the glucose limiting the amount of insulin I need . I work out 5x a week .
I will never understand what is so hard about this for the medical community to understand. How long are they going to push this ridiculous diet heart hypothesis? And how long before we stop telling people who struggle with weight to simply eat less and stick to “whole grains”? Can people not tell our advice is not working? If your glucose intolerant you have to lower carbs to lose weight. Period.
Some of this are standards of practice…and if they don’t follow them, they can lose their licenses. Trust me, I am not too impressed, that I had to go read this shit myself.
A lot of us do understand. There is a Facebook group of thousands physicians doing keto+IF together. Who doesn’t understand is your insurance company and the hospital corporation/public office. Try fighting with the VA about please don’t give my patients 12 ounces of “grape drink” along with low-fat pancakes and syrup. Even if I used my own $ to bring the patients food (unfair to expect that of me) that’s not allowed either. I’ve had arguments with federal govt dieticians who prepare the patient meals that I need to raise them to 50 gram carb meals and then give insulin. There is no winning with people who lack intellectual skills and who have NO SKIN in the game of patients health.
@@Nazyaali110 I understand. Because it is mainly RDE who are an issue here. Partly is the deep resistance to chainring standards. It’s to the point I lost all respect for the profession. But the conflicts of interest are deep.
Another great interview! Thank you Gary for your important work. Please keep investigating the medical/ health care untruths. We need you! I'm 58 and I'm down 115lbs. since November by eating a low carb high fat diet and intermittent fasting. I feel so well. Thank you for all you do.
Oops! I almost confused David Ludwig with Robert Lustig....Both uncovering the poison of sugar. I really enjoyed Garys book "Good Fat Bad Fat" and ready to take on his latest work. I'm not Keto but have adopted his and Robert Lustig's method of eating REAL FOOD. I've brought my weight down from 260 to 178 in about a year. Slow and steady wins the race. The thing is it's not really a diet but simply recognizing what crap ultra processed food is and avoiding it! Great work Gary.
Bang on !!! .... I tried everything and could not budge the weight ... No sugar and starch and your done !!! ...plus drink when you feel hungry and just eat one great meal a day ... I've lost over 50 lbs and feel better than I have in my entire life .....no diet required ...no calorie restriction ... walk and move a lot but no additional exercise required ... Thanks for spreading the word ...it's s no brainer ....
@@heredianna2496 Most people associate the word "diet" with caloric restriction, as opposed to a way of eating. And this "diet" is not about caloric restriction.
@@rajdialnandram5676 Not if you understand the caloric density of fat, or fat and protein combined. Keto doesn't focus on total calories, but on the kinds of calories. Combine it with attention paid to when those calories are ingested, and results follow.
Just do it and you will not regret it. Remember processed carbs and sugar is the enemy and source of all diseases including heart and diabetes and cancer. You can eat the best kind of food just restrict carbs including sugar to 50 grams and and try not to eat more than your usual and keep four hours between meals. Some veggies are a must lots of water. Just to give you a flavor this is a sample of my days eating. The breakfast is coffee made with two tablespoons of heavy cream with little water and one toasted piece of sour dough bread with butter. Lunch some berries peanuts walnuts and some milk. And then an early dinner with butter chicken with little rice and bowl of salad with olive oil and avocado milk smoothie. The increased fat in the diet stops you from feeling the hunger pangs.
@@allkindsamusicchick We are supposed to be eating low carb and not No Carb. So as long as the carbs is below 50 gms, the insulin remains low in the body, allowing for fat to be burnt. I do at least 30 to 45 minutes of moderate intensity exercise. I have lost 15 pounds in 8 weeks. I wanted to implement a diet plan that is maintanable in the long term.
So what exactly do I eat? What is this magic? I mean, people ask. And I am down over 60 pounds and have kept it off. 1.- Whole Foods. Reduce your consumption of franken, hyper processed foods to a minimum. Why? Added sugars, multiple forms, sugar alcohols, and other crap. No, you do not need it. 2.- no seed oils. They have oxidative properties that are not good for you. This, outside restaurants, is almost non-negotiable. This reminds me, a lot of processed franken foods have seed oils because they are cheap. 3.- while I stopped eating bread over a decade ago, I am in that ten percent that is actually sensitive to it, I don’t eat rice, tortillas, quinoa…I can rarely do legumes. As in rarely. 4.- as a T2D no potatoes, yams or the sundry of root veggies, even if I like them. If you are not a T2D you might be able to enjoy on ocasión. However, your grandmother was right, it goes to the hips. So keep them to a rare treat. 5.- no pasta, I don’t care what form. It’s a shortcut with the chickpea pastas for example. If you are not a T2D, you can enjoy on ocasión, but carefully watch the portion size. Make your own tomato sauce, it’s stupidly easy, and yours will not have added sugar to it. What I eat…fish, at least four times a week, chicken, lamb, occasional beef, other lean meats like rabbit…and also duck, which is not lean, but is delicious. Full fat milk products, farm grass fed and all that. Plenty of above ground veggies, including bock Choi mixed greens, sprouts, crucíferos veggies. Nuts (read ingredient labels, no nuts in seed oils or matodrextin. Just nuts, thank your. Hard cheeses Eggs. Yes, we do have bacon from time to time. Olives, olive oil, balsamic vinegar, apple cider vinegar (there is research the ascetic acid can help with glucose control. It’s tantalizing, and will not hurt) Fruits are limited to berries. In time I will experiment with other low GL fruit. I am not in any rush. I try to keep carbs low. Eat mindfully. Learn when you are hungry, and when you are not. No snacks, unless you are a T2D and need to treat a low blood sugar. This is a hard rule for me. You do not need to eat seven to nine times a day. Fun fact, I treat mine with cheerios…because this heart healthy cereal, sarcasm, is essentially sugar and I prefer the texture to the sugar gummies. At this point I also do intermittent fasting every day. I rarely have actual breakfast, because I am rarely hungry. When I do, I tend to eat more as welll. There is actual research on this as well. I exercise, but not because it will help to lose weight…it really does not. But it has a slew of other benefits and have added resistance training to further reduce the insulin resistance. What is hysterical is that until the 1960s the diet component was pretty standard advise…then Ancel Keys happened. That could be a rant on its own. This epidemic is a forced error on our part. Oh and I forgot DO NOT DRINK YOUR CALORIES
Watch these and Gary's interview with Dr Jason Fung! Get his book The Obesity Code. That's all you need if you follow them on UA-cam. Honestly that's how I went from almost 300 to now 150 just since November 2020! Fasting works and it's so good for us,! Start 2022 off right! I'm 58. If I can do it so can you! Start today 😊. Be well 🙏
What’s funny is that I noticed when I was in high school, before I knew anything about macronutrients or nutritional science, that people who were overweight tended to love sweets and that people who weren’t overweight tended not to be particularly partial to sweets. There seemed to be something about the sweets themselves that was directly correlated with weight gain.
Most sweets are high in fat, low in carbs. I mean what are candy bars, and Oreos and doughnuts? High carb? Nope, high fat, very processed high fat. Very high fat, relatively low carb. Especially when you consider the breakdown of fat-carb-protein content of natural whole foods.
@paulawarren9804 Because they are super high FAT, way more fat than any whole plant foods. Whereas their carb content is half of what high carb fruits are.
All carbs breakdown into simple sugars. A client I work with who is diabetic told me her breakfast was oatmeal, toast, and apple juice.... anything wrong with this picture?
They won’t be bragging for long when the unfortunate realities of early Alzheimer’s, diabetes and fatty liver disease interfere with their lives, which is what these kinds of diets generally cause.if they’re high in refined carbohydrates and sugars.
Definitely hormonal in my case - flood of stress hormones = tyre around my mid section. Consumption is typically 500-800 calories lower than what I should be having each day (after exercise is accounted for). And I rarely exceed fat allowance (actually usually well under). I stress eat as well, so that's (I suppose) related to stress hormones too... Have to figure gut biome plays a role also (sugar consumption needs tackled in that case!)
Yes!! Carb rich foods do make you extra fat!! I always struggled. Limited the carbs and slowly lost inches!! Only those of us who have dieted get it!! Stay away from carbs!!
@@karwask1 You are dead wrong. People who are glucose intolerant have to drop carbs. You can’t over eat on potatoes? Honestly you sound like an idiot saying that. If you can eat carbohydrates then good for you. But for someone who struggles with weight loss because their body hyper secretes insulin when they eat carbohydrates who are you to go telling that person they can’t overeat potatoes?
Didn't work for me...the potatoes the vegan lost weight at first then put on 39 extra. Low carb is still hard for me unless i drop fat pretty low but i do feel better keto carnivore. I only lose fat with low fat carnivore. Im pretty sure my carb tolerance is pretty low and i can do lower fat until i use up my excess.
@@Jayc9582 yes they're big differences in people's insulin response to carbs. For some carbs can easily become toxic, others can apparently eat a lot of them with no problem. Personally a problem I had was with carbs raising inflammation.
I wish you would ask him “ What exactly do YOU eat in a day”? I’d like to know. I understand he told us what NOT to eat. But what exactly does HE eat? I’d like to know how he narrowed down what to eat. Thanks
@@lr6477 simply not true. Fats from healthy such as avocado, olive oil, fatty fish (sardines, Salmon) will satiate your appetite and will only put on weight when combined with lots of carbs. In other words, bread and butter = bad. Butter on some steamed broccoli and fish = good.
The combination of intramyocellular fat being the primary cause of insulin resistance and the up regulation of insulin receptors in conjunction with rapid dumping of macronutrients into the body while not expending enough energy at the same time as having dysbiosis and a poor functioning liver.... is more likely at the root of the problem.
Yup. Carbs are just an innocent bystander. That is for Type 2 anyway. As for Type 1, this is caused by a pancreatic autoimmune response from being fed mother's milk from another species in infancy. Both of these are well-known. Taubes is just making a fortune selling "bacon and cheese are healthy" to a fat sick population that already eats massive amounts of both.
Great interview and so true about the inability of people/organizations etc. to admit they’ve made a mistake and the resulting damage it can cause. A great book on this subject is “Mistakes were made but not by me” which identifies even more scenarios beyond what Gary experienced and “us” as a si
I have chronic fatigue syndrome and my most recent diagnosis rheumatoid arthritis amongst few other issues basically my body is very inflamed. I ate a relatively healthy diet. Non-processed lots of fruit and vegetables that I was in so much pain still in my IRA was getting worse. My dad was a diabetic many people in my family are diabetic and obese. I have a lot of family history to keep an eye on plus my own inflamed body and all the right things weren't doing anything. I have switched to a largely protein and fat based diet. I do not have dairy at all mostly nuts and seeds avocado and olive oil and clean protein. Pretty much no bread although I will have the occasional carb just sort of made this diet up on my own but it follows many of the principles of a Keto type of diet and my pain symptoms have dramatically decreased. I want to eat more fruits and vegetables because, knowledge always told me that that was healthy for me. But I limit them because I know I feel so much better physically when I eat very little carbohydrate including many fruits and vegetables thank you for putting this out it is relevant to people with a variety of diseases not just obesity
Your inflammation will come down further, if you cut all fats in exchange for flax seed oil. See: Budwig diet for cancer recovery. She was nominated for the Nobel price 7 times. Obviously the cancer industry couldn't let her get it...
I'd also check the fruit consumption, as they're not all equal and some fruit can lead to blood sugar spikes. I remember a girl here on UA-cam testing her blood sugar with one of those sensors. Turns out an apple had a larger effect on her blood glucose levels than ice cream. Quite baffling.
Oops didn’t quite finish…as I meant to say that as a society we have suffered in many ways from that inability to admit a mistake has been made from either a political issue, medical scenario, personal and otherwise, the list goes on…
I love Gary’s talks. Perhaps I’m just getting old, but what bothers me is that as I scroll his podcast guest appearances, the headlines DO have a sort-of “fad diet” vibe to them that may be a turn-off to some people. Also…it should be touched on…even briefly…what the difference is between refined grain (white bread) carbs and celery (green vegetable) carbs. One very simple explanation relates to water content and fiber content. I acknowledge Gary’s greatest gift to the discussion is his deep dives into the scientific history and cultural context of what has happened over the past century. “Good Calories Bad Calories” opens with this amazing story about Eisenhower’s heart attack in 1953. I never knew of its significance. The McGovern Commission? I was in high school running track and guzzling soft drinks without a care in the world for God’s sake…LOL. Thank you Gary!
I imagine that for lean people who haven't experienced struggles with weight gain and weight loss that the traditional calorie based paradigm makes perfect sense. They've never considered the hormones that influence fat storage
If you're metabolically healthy, calories are a good enough approximation to control weight, however it does not truly represent the real mechanisms going on inside that actually manage weight. Calories are a pure contingency because they are not themselves the reason why calories in vs out might end up working out for some people. They simply correlate loosely to the general changes in the diet that need to be done to trigger the underlying mechanics of weight management in metabolically healthy people, and the less metabolism is healthy the less using a calorie model has a chance to work.
I think, from my own experience, that it is not one way or other. It is question of balance. More whole foods versus processed foods. Not everybody fits the same mold.
I think keto is less restrictive than a vegetarian lifestyle. No more worry about to much fat, keep it simple eat whole foods and avoid Bread, pasta, potatoes, beans, Rice, cake, sugar…etc eat greens from above the ground and your proteïn, meat, fish, eggs…and fill with extra fat if you are hungry. Cream in your coffee, some butter on your leafy greens. Eat low carb fruits.
There are societies where people eat a primarily carbohydrate diet. Carbohydrates aren't the enemy, processed carbohydrates, processed food, added sugars and pro-inflammatory seed oils are. I maintain a largely ketogenic diet because that works for me and I have to address years of eating too many carbs. But when we say that carbs are the enemy, carbs are bad, protein and fat are good that makes a great narrative but it isn't entirely accurate. Gary would strengthen his position if he were to acknowledge this.
There are seveal things you can do. I have seen a site that lists a lot of them, perhaps on reddit. Meanwhile I noticed that Tim Ferriss mentions a lot of them (at least 5) in the book 4Hr Body. But he never tried cider vinegar. I always wondered about that.
Carb is not necessarily an enemy, sugar, white flour, hfcs, seed oils are. It maybe impossible completely cut them out but limit as much as possible. If I do have a day where I consume a little more carbs than normal, I take acv and milk thistle supplement
Please define specifically your general term "carbohydrates", there are big differences between potato and white bread, cakes? Sweeping statement like low carb high fat is ridiculous, for example what type of high fat should one have? Butter, ghee, Camila oil, olive oil? Excluding seed oil?
Exactly!!!!! I dislike how they lump carbohydrates. They need to distinguish the difference between carbohydrates from processed food like bread and pasta from vegetables and fruits. They are completely different types of carbohydrates. One is bad for you and the other is good for you.
I’m thinking of two men I know that have a big stomach.. they look 9 months pregnant… they don’t like to exercise and they both admit to eating junk… how can that not be their fault? I know I would gain weight if I never exercise and if I ate junk… I keep my weight down by making healthy choices and exercise…
Ita so crazy how people bash carbs with insulin 😂 When i was high carb plant based, my fasting insulin was 2.3 and c-peptide was 1.0 I went animal based for 6 months, 50% was fat,30% was protein and 20 was carbs My fasting insulin elevated to 3.5 and c-peptide was 1.3 Calories didn’t change. So wtf is up with you people trying to bash carbs 🤦♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Gary, your point on people not testing their assumptions; I had the same experience in my industry of personal training. I personally am overweight despite the lengths I have gone to, and in regards to exercise, I did everything that the experts and the very large muscular guys said, and it didn't work. One day, full of frustration, I wrote myself an exercise program, then I asked myself, what is the goal of some point, and then I asked asked myself, why do I think doing this thing (always taught as how to achieve that goal) will give me that outcome? So then I would do an experiment to see if that action would lead to the actual result. I started doing experiments in other words. My findings were jeered at on public forums but several times, 5 yrs later, some well known person in the industry would come out with what I said and everyone would talk about how good this person was. I started to see the same phenomena in everyone around me. So I found it very interesting but no unexpected to hear you talking about it here.
Currently on a two day fast. Have been eating once per 24 hrs for 10 weeks and just moved up to once per 48 hours. Will complete the second iteration today.
@@trojanhman8136 Go for it. I swear if you’re someone who has trouble losing weight (I was until 7 years ago) you won’t believe how easy it is. Please come back to this comment section and let me know how it goes for you. Since giving up carbohydrates I have never put 1 ounce of effort into keeping weight off. I pay no attention to how many calories I eat. When I’m hungry I eat. I just don’t eat carbohydrates.I eat till I am completely full. No hunger. No using willpower.
I think high protein low carb is much more correct then high fat, low carb because you feel more satisfied with protein and you are still im ketosis. Atkims had it right. And protein spares your muscle.
I have heard on another podcast that protein increases insulin to a lower degree, and that fat has no influence in insulin. I guess it depends how sensitive the individual is, or how fast they want to lose fat. I personally would prefer a high protein diet but there you go.
@@trojanhman8136 i am eating high protein and im pretty sure i am in ketosis because i am losing weight and i hardly have appetite, but i keep eating plenty of protein because o feel more stable, not like i am on a low calorie diet
@@qerlb I am sure that is right for you. I don't question your personal experience. I am just saying that others might not have the same response as you.
I once joined an eating plan-type-group. Low carb was touted by the successful and long-timers. I followed suit and it rang true. I LOST!! I was meticulous and weighed and measured as a rule. It does work. But....can I do it again?? Big sigh....
Well each life stage hormonal shift brings weight change tendencies so even at the most basic level the hormonal line of enquiry is screaming for attention
Telling us that we do not get fat by what we eat but because of mainly high insulin , then end up telling us to restrict calories intake to lose weight ?, Tying up overweight with too much insulin is a good strategy to encourage overweight to put blame on insulin and to then take the necessary steps to reduce Insulin production by eating less overall calories mainly from refined processed carbs , sugars , seed oils and fats. Good strategy to put the blame elsewhere. The body usually don't produce insulin to make us eat , it produces insulin after we have eaten carbs and sugars. It is this excess carbs and sugars that the body then stores as fat. So it directly points to calories in = calories stored as fat.
if keto actually worked for me life would be sooooo much easier, but nothing works so far, just like nothing worked for my mother... she died of pancreatic cancer still fat
Anthony William says the fat in the blood is preventing insulin from getting into the cell. His approach is hi carb, low fat. He says liver and brain need carbs to run on and that carbs build muscles.
@@karwask1 It'll be interesting to see if you can keep the weight off by staying on this restrictive diet. I've been through a lot of different diets over my life and find it's actually a lot easier to eat a keto diet with intermittent fasting than trying to get along with measured amounts of carbs and no fats. When I've had oatmeal for breakfast, for example, I was hungry within two hours. It just doesn't stick with me. It's hard for me to imagine how having a diet high in carbs would work in my case. The keto diet is working for me, slowly but surely and with a minimum of expense or fuss.
@@karwask1 Well, that's nice, but I feel morally obligated in supporting regenerative ranching by buying and eating their products since regenerative agriculture is saving our planet from desertification and the loss of the necessary topsoil to grow the plants you want to eat. From what I understand, eating a lot of starch isn't that great for health. Grass-fed and pasture-raised meats are far more nutritious and satisfying. But whatever works for you. Since I learned about regenerative agriculture, I gave up on the idea of a vegan or even a vegetarian diet. I don't think they help the planet much since animals are absolutely necessary to maintaining healthy soil and giving us the nutritious foods we all need.
It makes me sad to think that people can believe they can eat without killing something. Humanity survives on death. Always, no matter what, death in always involved. Like it or lump it you have to kill something.
We substituted fats for carbs, and this has lead to an insulin/hormonal effect that has caused obesity epidemic. The solution is Keto. That's it. That's the entire video.
Why we get get? Because we eat too many calories, and live mostly sedentary lifestyles. Shortest interview ever! Thanks Gary. Please show me anyone can gain weight in a hypocaloric diet.
Fung is a great popularizer, and I have gifted his books, but Taubes, Lustig and Ludwig have been way ahead of Fung. So has Marion Nestle and a few others.
@@charlesr.aliffjr.4050 If you do not read the literature I am not surprised you have not read of them. Gary Taubes has been writing in this vein for over two decades. Dr Robert Lustig has published research papers for decades as well. These two are just from the top of my mind. Jason is great to explain these things. You should read some Taubes as well. But Jason is using the research. Hell, he even refers to some of these folks in his books. Why do you think is that? Me, have been reading the popular books, but also been spending some quality time with the literature snd the industry papers that point to a similar story as tobacco. Some of the actors are the same.
I just lost 20 lbs and I look older. It's a trade-off. I'd rather be healthy and have a few more wrinkles. My legs look like I'm a teenager again. So that's good!
Keto , low carb , animal based 3 years - lowered insulin to 1.5 - lost 40 plus pounds and kept it off ! 58 year old ! Now I can have that donut 🍩 or 2 here and there without setback ! Fat adapted , cognitive health improved , energy levels increased tremendously! Triglycerides 40s AIC 4.8 ! Don’t care if you agree or not with this protocol- it works for me ! Wish you all well .
@@karwask1 just had my cholesterol done last week on 58 th b day .
Total - 175
Hdl - 61
Triglycerides-62
LDL - 106
3 years not really short term
Wow, such a low number. I can't get mine below 8. The physician's assistant that does my blood draw always asks why I want a fasting insulin test. "Your insulin is normal why do you want this?"
@@karwask1 My HDL is 66, TRIG is 44 and I've been carnivore three years. LDL is 101.
@@jselectronics8215 surprised it was that low myself . Had it redone 4x to make sure and 1.4 was my average w/the lowest at 1.1 . My A1c was 4.9. I believe my muscle mass absorbs a lot of the glucose limiting the amount of insulin I need . I work out 5x a week .
@@Marx1963 Muscles. They can soak up the glucose. I’m 74, sit a lot. I walk 1.2 miles and do a few pushups and squats.
Down 120lbs now. 160lbs from my highest. Learning about insulin was a game changer. Going keto/carnivore for the next 50
I will never understand what is so hard about this for the medical community to understand. How long are they going to push this ridiculous diet heart hypothesis? And how long before we stop telling people who struggle with weight to simply eat less and stick to “whole grains”? Can people not tell our advice is not working? If your glucose intolerant you have to lower carbs to lose weight. Period.
Some of this are standards of practice…and if they don’t follow them, they can lose their licenses. Trust me, I am not too impressed, that I had to go read this shit myself.
A lot of us do understand. There is a Facebook group of thousands physicians doing keto+IF together. Who doesn’t understand is your insurance company and the hospital corporation/public office. Try fighting with the VA about please don’t give my patients 12 ounces of “grape drink” along with low-fat pancakes and syrup. Even if I used my own $ to bring the patients food (unfair to expect that of me) that’s not allowed either. I’ve had arguments with federal govt dieticians who prepare the patient meals that I need to raise them to 50 gram carb meals and then give insulin. There is no winning with people who lack intellectual skills and who have NO SKIN in the game of patients health.
@@Nazyaali110 I understand. Because it is mainly RDE who are an issue here. Partly is the deep resistance to chainring standards. It’s to the point I lost all respect for the profession.
But the conflicts of interest are deep.
Clearly animal fats cause disease. This is known.
It is proven at this point. Tons of studies. Stopping animal products treats, reverses, cures heart disease. Plant based whole foods for the win!
Another great interview! Thank you Gary for your important work. Please keep investigating the medical/ health care untruths. We need you!
I'm 58 and I'm down 115lbs. since November by eating a low carb high fat diet and intermittent fasting. I feel so well. Thank you for all you do.
I love Gary, he is so intelligent and thorough 🙏🏾❤👍🏽
Oops! I almost confused David Ludwig with Robert Lustig....Both uncovering the poison of sugar. I really enjoyed Garys book "Good Fat Bad Fat" and ready to take on his latest work. I'm not Keto but have adopted his and Robert Lustig's method of eating REAL FOOD. I've brought my weight down from 260 to 178 in about a year. Slow and steady wins the race. The thing is it's not really a diet but simply recognizing what crap ultra processed food is and avoiding it! Great work Gary.
Haha! "If I saw someone get hit by a car, my wife would say that I would blame carbohydrates..." 😂😮
Bang on !!! .... I tried everything and could not budge the weight ...
No sugar and starch and your done !!! ...plus drink when you feel hungry and just eat one great meal a day ...
I've lost over 50 lbs and feel better than I have in my entire life .....no diet required ...no calorie restriction ... walk and move a lot but no additional exercise required ...
Thanks for spreading the word ...it's s no brainer ....
Well what you did is pretty much called a diet.
@@heredianna2496 Most people associate the word "diet" with caloric restriction, as opposed to a way of eating. And this "diet" is not about caloric restriction.
@@gummiesrule88 no sugar and starch sounds like calories restriction.
@@rajdialnandram5676 Not if you understand the caloric density of fat, or fat and protein combined. Keto doesn't focus on total calories, but on the kinds of calories. Combine it with attention paid to when those calories are ingested, and results follow.
@@gummiesrule88 Why do most ketos yell about how they fast all day, every day?
I need to do this!! I'm so sick of being fat. It does affect my life in every area!
Just do it and you will not regret it. Remember processed carbs and sugar is the enemy and source of all diseases including heart and diabetes and cancer. You can eat the best kind of food just restrict carbs including sugar to 50 grams and and try not to eat more than your usual and keep four hours between meals. Some veggies are a must lots of water. Just to give you a flavor this is a sample of my days eating. The breakfast is coffee made with two tablespoons of heavy cream with little water and one toasted piece of sour dough bread with butter. Lunch some berries peanuts walnuts and some milk. And then an early dinner with butter chicken with little rice and bowl of salad with olive oil and avocado milk smoothie. The increased fat in the diet stops you from feeling the hunger pangs.
@@AsmaSohailMRTHNot sure why you would eat sourdough bread and rice if you were trying to keep the carb level down.
@@allkindsamusicchick We are supposed to be eating low carb and not No Carb. So as long as the carbs is below 50 gms, the insulin remains low in the body, allowing for fat to be burnt. I do at least 30 to 45 minutes of moderate intensity exercise. I have lost 15 pounds in 8 weeks. I wanted to implement a diet plan that is maintanable in the long term.
So what exactly do I eat? What is this magic? I mean, people ask. And I am down over 60 pounds and have kept it off.
1.- Whole Foods. Reduce your consumption of franken, hyper processed foods to a minimum. Why? Added sugars, multiple forms, sugar alcohols, and other crap. No, you do not need it.
2.- no seed oils. They have oxidative properties that are not good for you. This, outside restaurants, is almost non-negotiable. This reminds me, a lot of processed franken foods have seed oils because they are cheap.
3.- while I stopped eating bread over a decade ago, I am in that ten percent that is actually sensitive to it, I don’t eat rice, tortillas, quinoa…I can rarely do legumes. As in rarely.
4.- as a T2D no potatoes, yams or the sundry of root veggies, even if I like them. If you are not a T2D you might be able to enjoy on ocasión. However, your grandmother was right, it goes to the hips. So keep them to a rare treat.
5.- no pasta, I don’t care what form. It’s a shortcut with the chickpea pastas for example. If you are not a T2D, you can enjoy on ocasión, but carefully watch the portion size. Make your own tomato sauce, it’s stupidly easy, and yours will not have added sugar to it.
What I eat…fish, at least four times a week, chicken, lamb, occasional beef, other lean meats like rabbit…and also duck, which is not lean, but is delicious.
Full fat milk products, farm grass fed and all that.
Plenty of above ground veggies, including bock Choi mixed greens, sprouts, crucíferos veggies.
Nuts (read ingredient labels, no nuts in seed oils or matodrextin. Just nuts, thank your.
Hard cheeses
Eggs.
Yes, we do have bacon from time to time.
Olives, olive oil, balsamic vinegar, apple cider vinegar (there is research the ascetic acid can help with glucose control. It’s tantalizing, and will not hurt)
Fruits are limited to berries. In time I will experiment with other low GL fruit. I am not in any rush.
I try to keep carbs low.
Eat mindfully. Learn when you are hungry, and when you are not. No snacks, unless you are a T2D and need to treat a low blood sugar. This is a hard rule for me. You do not need to eat seven to nine times a day. Fun fact, I treat mine with cheerios…because this heart healthy cereal, sarcasm, is essentially sugar and I prefer the texture to the sugar gummies.
At this point I also do intermittent fasting every day. I rarely have actual breakfast, because I am rarely hungry. When I do, I tend to eat more as welll. There is actual research on this as well.
I exercise, but not because it will help to lose weight…it really does not. But it has a slew of other benefits and have added resistance training to further reduce the insulin resistance.
What is hysterical is that until the 1960s the diet component was pretty standard advise…then Ancel Keys happened. That could be a rant on its own. This epidemic is a forced error on our part.
Oh and I forgot DO NOT DRINK YOUR CALORIES
Watch these and Gary's interview with Dr Jason Fung! Get his book The Obesity Code. That's all you need if you follow them on UA-cam. Honestly that's how I went from almost 300 to now 150 just since November 2020! Fasting works and it's so good for us,! Start 2022 off right! I'm 58. If I can do it so can you! Start today 😊. Be well 🙏
Gary Taubes a hero of mine for years
What’s funny is that I noticed when I was in high school, before I knew anything about macronutrients or nutritional science, that people who were overweight tended to love sweets and that people who weren’t overweight tended not to be particularly partial to sweets. There seemed to be something about the sweets themselves that was directly correlated with weight gain.
Not in American. The American diet is full of meat, dairy, eggs.
Most sweets are high in fat, low in carbs. I mean what are candy bars, and Oreos and doughnuts? High carb? Nope, high fat, very processed high fat. Very high fat, relatively low carb. Especially when you consider the breakdown of fat-carb-protein content of natural whole foods.
@paulawarren9804 Because they are super high FAT, way more fat than any whole plant foods. Whereas their carb content is half of what high carb fruits are.
@paulawarren9804 Candy bars and cookies and donuts are extremely high in fat compared to the natural composition of plant foods
All carbs breakdown into simple sugars. A client I work with who is diabetic told me her breakfast was oatmeal, toast, and apple juice.... anything wrong with this picture?
Yeah, no butter on the toast?
I still hear people proudly voicing their reason for avoiding certain foods because of the fat.
I know providers.
Not just the fat. But LDL, lack of antioxidants, high in carcinogens, no fiber etc....
They won’t be bragging for long when the unfortunate realities of early Alzheimer’s, diabetes and fatty liver disease interfere with their lives, which is what these kinds of diets generally cause.if they’re high in refined carbohydrates and sugars.
@@foxiefair123 Left out the number one killer: heart disease. Which is caused by eating animal flesh and drinking their breastmilk.
I love it, how he refers to Ancel Keys, without mentioning names
Definitely hormonal in my case - flood of stress hormones = tyre around my mid section. Consumption is typically 500-800 calories lower than what I should be having each day (after exercise is accounted for). And I rarely exceed fat allowance (actually usually well under). I stress eat as well, so that's (I suppose) related to stress hormones too... Have to figure gut biome plays a role also (sugar consumption needs tackled in that case!)
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Yes!! Carb rich foods do make you extra fat!! I always struggled. Limited the carbs and slowly lost inches!! Only those of us who have dieted get it!! Stay away from carbs!!
@@karwask1 You are dead wrong. People who are glucose intolerant have to drop carbs. You can’t over eat on potatoes? Honestly you sound like an idiot saying that. If you can eat carbohydrates then good for you. But for someone who struggles with weight loss because their body hyper secretes insulin when they eat carbohydrates who are you to go telling that person they can’t overeat potatoes?
@@karwask1 It's either one or the other. Processed carbs raise the insulin and create and maintain the sad, sad, sack of weight.
Didn't work for me...the potatoes the vegan lost weight at first then put on 39 extra. Low carb is still hard for me unless i drop fat pretty low but i do feel better keto carnivore. I only lose fat with low fat carnivore. Im pretty sure my carb tolerance is pretty low and i can do lower fat until i use up my excess.
@@Jayc9582 yes they're big differences in people's insulin response to carbs. For some carbs can easily become toxic, others can apparently eat a lot of them with no problem. Personally a problem I had was with carbs raising inflammation.
@@karwask1 Do you check your blood glucose levels every day? After consumption of such a high carb meal?
I wish you would ask him “ What exactly do YOU eat in a day”? I’d like to know. I understand he told us what NOT to eat. But what exactly does HE eat? I’d like to know how he narrowed down what to eat. Thanks
He's not going to say? Wow thanks for letting me know
He did tell you what he ate! He follows a keto diet. I presume you know what that is? Lots of Healthy fats, animal proteins, very few carbs.
@@tootstoyou1 eat "lots" of healthy fats and you will gain weight too.
@@lr6477 simply not true. Fats from healthy such as avocado, olive oil, fatty fish (sardines, Salmon) will satiate your appetite and will only put on weight when combined with lots of carbs. In other words, bread and butter = bad.
Butter on some steamed broccoli and fish = good.
I just wanted to know what HE eats. I’m on a keto diet for 3 years, but wondered what HE actually eats on his version of a keto diet
The combination of intramyocellular fat being the primary cause of insulin resistance and the up regulation of insulin receptors in conjunction with rapid dumping of macronutrients into the body while not expending enough energy at the same time as having dysbiosis and a poor functioning liver.... is more likely at the root of the problem.
Yup. Carbs are just an innocent bystander. That is for Type 2 anyway. As for Type 1, this is caused by a pancreatic autoimmune response from being fed mother's milk from another species in infancy. Both of these are well-known. Taubes is just making a fortune selling "bacon and cheese are healthy" to a fat sick population that already eats massive amounts of both.
Great interview and so true about the inability of people/organizations etc. to admit they’ve made a mistake and the resulting damage it can cause. A great book on this subject is “Mistakes were made but not by me” which identifies even more scenarios beyond what Gary experienced and “us” as a si
Great Interview
Thank you
I have chronic fatigue syndrome and my most recent diagnosis rheumatoid arthritis amongst few other issues basically my body is very inflamed. I ate a relatively healthy diet. Non-processed lots of fruit and vegetables that I was in so much pain still in my IRA was getting worse. My dad was a diabetic many people in my family are diabetic and obese. I have a lot of family history to keep an eye on plus my own inflamed body and all the right things weren't doing anything. I have switched to a largely protein and fat based diet. I do not have dairy at all mostly nuts and seeds avocado and olive oil and clean protein. Pretty much no bread although I will have the occasional carb just sort of made this diet up on my own but it follows many of the principles of a Keto type of diet and my pain symptoms have dramatically decreased. I want to eat more fruits and vegetables because, knowledge always told me that that was healthy for me. But I limit them because I know I feel so much better physically when I eat very little carbohydrate including many fruits and vegetables thank you for putting this out it is relevant to people with a variety of diseases not just obesity
Your inflammation will come down further, if you cut all fats in exchange for flax seed oil. See: Budwig diet for cancer recovery. She was nominated for the Nobel price 7 times. Obviously the cancer industry couldn't let her get it...
@@karwask1 go on low carb diet intermittent fasting you can check Dr Jason Fung,and beat diabetes on you tube for more information
I'd also check the fruit consumption, as they're not all equal and some fruit can lead to blood sugar spikes.
I remember a girl here on UA-cam testing her blood sugar with one of those sensors. Turns out an apple had a larger effect on her blood glucose levels than ice cream. Quite baffling.
@@r-type4945 oh yeah I'm very careful with my fruit
@@r-type4945 Not really....fat in a carb meal keeps the BS from spiking because it slows absorption.
Oops didn’t quite finish…as I meant to say that as a society we have suffered in many ways from that inability to admit a mistake has been made from either a political issue, medical scenario, personal and otherwise, the list goes on…
It's not a mistake. Deth Kult doesn't make mistakes.
I love Gary’s talks. Perhaps I’m just getting old, but what bothers me is that as I scroll his podcast guest appearances, the headlines DO have a sort-of “fad diet” vibe to them that may be a turn-off to some people.
Also…it should be touched on…even briefly…what the difference is between refined grain (white bread) carbs and celery (green vegetable) carbs. One very simple explanation relates to water content and fiber content. I acknowledge Gary’s greatest gift to the discussion is his deep dives into the scientific history and cultural context of what has happened over the past century. “Good Calories Bad Calories” opens with this amazing story about Eisenhower’s heart attack in 1953. I never knew of its significance. The McGovern Commission? I was in high school running track and guzzling soft drinks without a care in the world for God’s sake…LOL.
Thank you Gary!
I imagine that for lean people who haven't experienced struggles with weight gain and weight loss that the traditional calorie based paradigm makes perfect sense. They've never considered the hormones that influence fat storage
If you're metabolically healthy, calories are a good enough approximation to control weight, however it does not truly represent the real mechanisms going on inside that actually manage weight. Calories are a pure contingency because they are not themselves the reason why calories in vs out might end up working out for some people. They simply correlate loosely to the general changes in the diet that need to be done to trigger the underlying mechanics of weight management in metabolically healthy people, and the less metabolism is healthy the less using a calorie model has a chance to work.
Podcast like this one gets the word out!
Grateful to have found this🎉 talk❤
We have an obese population that is malnourished.... sadly, it's not new info. He's correct "establishment nutrition" is prevalent.
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I think, from my own experience, that it is not one way or other. It is question of balance. More whole foods versus processed foods. Not everybody fits the same mold.
I think keto is less restrictive than a vegetarian lifestyle. No more worry about to much fat, keep it simple eat whole foods and avoid Bread, pasta, potatoes, beans, Rice, cake, sugar…etc eat greens from above the ground and your proteïn, meat, fish, eggs…and fill with extra fat if you are hungry. Cream in your coffee, some butter on your leafy greens. Eat low carb fruits.
There are societies where people eat a primarily carbohydrate diet. Carbohydrates aren't the enemy, processed carbohydrates, processed food, added sugars and pro-inflammatory seed oils are.
I maintain a largely ketogenic diet because that works for me and I have to address years of eating too many carbs. But when we say that carbs are the enemy, carbs are bad, protein and fat are good that makes a great narrative but it isn't entirely accurate.
Gary would strengthen his position if he were to acknowledge this.
Another GREAT podcast!!! Question: can you counter the affects of carbohydrates by taking chromium picolinate at the same time?
@@karwask1 I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my question. Your comments make a lot of sense. Thank you!
There are seveal things you can do. I have seen a site that lists a lot of them, perhaps on reddit. Meanwhile I noticed that Tim Ferriss mentions a lot of them (at least 5) in the book 4Hr Body.
But he never tried cider vinegar. I always wondered about that.
@@karwask1 We were NOT DESIGNED. Duh.
@@dreamervanroom any chance you can help me find those?
Carb is not necessarily an enemy, sugar, white flour, hfcs, seed oils are.
It maybe impossible completely cut them out but limit as much as possible. If I do have a day where I consume a little more carbs than normal, I take acv and milk thistle supplement
Please define specifically your general term "carbohydrates", there are big differences between potato and white bread, cakes? Sweeping statement like low carb high fat is ridiculous, for example what type of high fat should one have? Butter, ghee, Camila oil, olive oil? Excluding seed oil?
Exactly!!!!!
I dislike how they lump carbohydrates. They need to distinguish the difference between carbohydrates from processed food like bread and pasta from vegetables and fruits. They are completely different types of carbohydrates. One is bad for you and the other is good for you.
I’m thinking of two men I know that have a big stomach.. they look 9 months pregnant… they don’t like to exercise and they both admit to eating junk… how can that not be their fault? I know I would gain weight if I never exercise and if I ate junk… I keep my weight down by making healthy choices and exercise…
Ita so crazy how people bash carbs with insulin 😂
When i was high carb plant based, my fasting insulin was 2.3 and c-peptide was 1.0
I went animal based for 6 months, 50% was fat,30% was protein and 20 was carbs
My fasting insulin elevated to 3.5 and c-peptide was 1.3
Calories didn’t change.
So wtf is up with you people trying to bash carbs 🤦♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
This was great but where is the print out?
Gary, your point on people not testing their assumptions; I had the same experience in my industry of personal training. I personally am overweight despite the lengths I have gone to, and in regards to exercise, I did everything that the experts and the very large muscular guys said, and it didn't work. One day, full of frustration, I wrote myself an exercise program, then I asked myself, what is the goal of some point, and then I asked asked myself, why do I think doing this thing (always taught as how to achieve that goal) will give me that outcome? So then I would do an experiment to see if that action would lead to the actual result. I started doing experiments in other words. My findings were jeered at on public forums but several times, 5 yrs later, some well known person in the industry would come out with what I said and everyone would talk about how good this person was. I started to see the same phenomena in everyone around me. So I found it very interesting but no unexpected to hear you talking about it here.
You mentioned being overweight. Have you tried dropping carbohydrates?
@@Jayc9582 I have not but I am going to start that now.
Currently on a two day fast. Have been eating once per 24 hrs for 10 weeks and just moved up to once per 48 hours. Will complete the second iteration today.
@@trojanhman8136 Go for it. I swear if you’re someone who has trouble losing weight (I was until 7 years ago) you won’t believe how easy it is. Please come back to this comment section and let me know how it goes for you. Since giving up carbohydrates I have never put 1 ounce of effort into keeping weight off. I pay no attention to how many calories I eat. When I’m hungry I eat. I just don’t eat carbohydrates.I eat till I am completely full. No hunger. No using willpower.
@@Jayc9582 Thanks for that.
I think high protein low carb is much more correct then high fat, low carb because you feel more satisfied with protein and you are still im ketosis. Atkims had it right. And protein spares your muscle.
I have heard on another podcast that protein increases insulin to a lower degree, and that fat has no influence in insulin. I guess it depends how sensitive the individual is, or how fast they want to lose fat. I personally would prefer a high protein diet but there you go.
@@trojanhman8136 i am eating high protein and im pretty sure i am in ketosis because i am losing weight and i hardly have appetite, but i keep eating plenty of protein because o feel more stable, not like i am on a low calorie diet
@@qerlb I am sure that is right for you. I don't question your personal experience. I am just saying that others might not have the same response as you.
My body gets very inflamed if I eat high protein. It does not get inflamed when I eat high fat.
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I once joined an eating plan-type-group. Low carb was touted by the successful and long-timers. I followed suit and it rang true. I LOST!! I was meticulous and weighed and measured as a rule. It does work. But....can I do it again?? Big sigh....
Yes.
I eat this way for life.
@@marlenegold280 Hi Marlene! Are you a 12-Stepper, or have you just adapted this plan independently?
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Independently.
Low carb is a lifestyle, not just a quickie diet to lose weight; it is for overall health.
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Jack Sprat could eat no fat,
His wife could eat no lean.
And so between the two of them, you see,
They licked the platter clean.
Keto works for me. But I'm not you. The main benefit is the higher energy level. It actually makes me happier.
The problem are carbohydrates contamineted with MICOTOXIN
I just ate a pound of grass fed cow liver with pickles for dinner
Yuck! But....if you like it!!
Pickles no! Bacon with liver yes, bacon, liver and onions is wonderful. But oh, no, not pickles. 😅 Each to their own I guess.
Well each life stage hormonal shift brings weight change tendencies so even at the most basic level the hormonal line of enquiry is screaming for attention
Could it be true that plant based, not macro based, is the correct lens?
Hyperinsulinemia = enlarged prostate, gout in men that may not be over weight, and have normal A1-C
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I realize calorie deficit no longer working for me now.It was working 3 years back
Telling us that we do not get fat by what we eat but because of mainly high insulin , then end up telling us to restrict calories intake to lose weight ?,
Tying up overweight with too much insulin is a good strategy to encourage overweight to put blame on insulin and to then take the necessary steps to reduce Insulin production by eating less overall calories mainly from refined processed carbs , sugars , seed oils and fats.
Good strategy to put the blame elsewhere.
The body usually don't produce insulin to make us eat , it produces insulin after we have eaten carbs and sugars. It is this excess carbs and sugars that the body then stores as fat.
So it directly points to calories in = calories stored as fat.
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if keto actually worked for me life would be sooooo much easier, but nothing works so far, just like nothing worked for my mother... she died of pancreatic cancer still fat
Anthony William says the fat in the blood is preventing insulin from getting into the cell. His approach is hi carb, low fat. He says liver and brain need carbs to run on and that carbs build muscles.
@@karwask1 It'll be interesting to see if you can keep the weight off by staying on this restrictive diet. I've been through a lot of different diets over my life and find it's actually a lot easier to eat a keto diet with intermittent fasting than trying to get along with measured amounts of carbs and no fats. When I've had oatmeal for breakfast, for example, I was hungry within two hours. It just doesn't stick with me. It's hard for me to imagine how having a diet high in carbs would work in my case. The keto diet is working for me, slowly but surely and with a minimum of expense or fuss.
@@karwask1 Well, that's nice, but I feel morally obligated in supporting regenerative ranching by buying and eating their products since regenerative agriculture is saving our planet from desertification and the loss of the necessary topsoil to grow the plants you want to eat. From what I understand, eating a lot of starch isn't that great for health. Grass-fed and pasture-raised meats are far more nutritious and satisfying. But whatever works for you. Since I learned about regenerative agriculture, I gave up on the idea of a vegan or even a vegetarian diet. I don't think they help the planet much since animals are absolutely necessary to maintaining healthy soil and giving us the nutritious foods we all need.
Dude, you really need to put more thought into these video titles. oh wait, you did: it’s called clickbait. Way to keep it real.
48min. Most beer has very little carbohydrates
You can’t sustain fat loss with chronically high insulin levels.
Just makes me so sad ...all these animals are tortured and murdered
It makes me sad to think that people can believe they can eat without killing something. Humanity survives on death. Always, no matter what, death in always involved. Like it or lump it you have to kill something.
1.16 I do wish you would cut this down and get to the point, less waffle
low carbs means early death so now what
The final verdict is in we need all 3 things fat, protein and carbs in our diets. 1 to 1 to 1 ratio. Leave one out and suffer the consequences.
Ken,,please name 1 essential carb. There are essential fats and essential proteins, meaning you cannot be healthy without them.
I can prove weight gain by gluttony and sloth within one week! So confusing.
True if you are eating fructose and hi carb food, flour foods. I've proven it several times.
@@KJ-md2wj I wish that were the case for me. I have to stay active and avoid gluttony no matter the type of food. 🙂
We substituted fats for carbs, and this has lead to an insulin/hormonal effect that has caused obesity epidemic. The solution is Keto.
That's it. That's the entire video.
Why we get get?
Because we eat too many calories, and live mostly sedentary lifestyles.
Shortest interview ever! Thanks Gary.
Please show me anyone can gain weight in a hypocaloric diet.
Dunning Kruger demonstration here ☝🏼
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Dhruv, kindly speak slow..I think You speak unnecessarily fast
Yeah, yeah... experts popping up everywhere since Dr. Jason Fung let the cat out of the bag.
Dr. Jason Fung is wonderful, but he is not a pioneer on this subject by any stretch!
Fung is a great popularizer, and I have gifted his books, but Taubes, Lustig and Ludwig have been way ahead of Fung. So has Marion Nestle and a few others.
@@nadinabbott3991 Yeah, so far ahead no one has heard of them. 🤔
@@charlesr.aliffjr.4050 If you do not read the literature I am not surprised you have not read of them. Gary Taubes has been writing in this vein for over two decades. Dr Robert Lustig has published research papers for decades as well. These two are just from the top of my mind.
Jason is great to explain these things. You should read some Taubes as well. But Jason is using the research. Hell, he even refers to some of these folks in his books. Why do you think is that?
Me, have been reading the popular books, but also been spending some quality time with the literature snd the industry papers that point to a similar story as tobacco. Some of the actors are the same.
@@nadinabbott3991 Taubes, Lustig, and Ludwig did not place this information on the collective consciousness of the masses…Fung did.
See animal Food contaminacao
Not a scientist. Judging scientists. And spewing dangerous misinformation
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Bottom up by lay people.
He talks a lot and long without getting to the point, teaching you attitudes without evidence. When does he get to the point of his ideas?
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100 calories from Oreos is the same as 100 calories from salmon. Calories in, calories out...
Except it's easy to eat 100caloies os salmon (1-1/2"sq), not so easy 100 cals Oreos (2 cookies). Try it, tell me what you find.
@@candecarro Sorry, that was a joke I stole from Dr. Jason Fung.
Gary has AGED ... since the last time I saw him give a talk. Not good.
I just lost 20 lbs and I look older. It's a trade-off. I'd rather be healthy and have a few more wrinkles. My legs look like I'm a teenager again. So that's good!
Everyone ages. He is 65.
I think he looks great!
He’s 65. What do you expect? As far as I’m concerned he looks his age.
@@margaretoconnor874 I think he looks pretty good for sixty five.