I thank God for Gary Taubes. i was fortunate to come across his book years ago at aweight of 235 lbs, with severe high blood pressure and inflamed joints. today at 85 lbs. lighter my blood pressure is very teenager like and walk and exercise with ease. Thank you so much Gary and please continue fighting the good fight, Truth is hard to come by in today's world.
I saw recently where only 10% of studies published were repeatable when another group went back and did the study. 10% is a dismal finding and certainly explains the lack of credibility.
Epidemiology is, at best, modern shamanism... without the beneficial parts. 58:00 The ability to denounce his previous errors is why i hold Tim Noakes in the highest esteem as a scientist.
If you have never had a weight problem, you might be inclined to think you have the answer for those do, that is eat what you eat and exercise like you do. The rest of us have Gary Taubes who has spent his life researching and observing that carbohydrates, mostly sugar are the problem and that a keto diet ( or as close as you can manage) is the solution. It works better than Ozempic and it’s alot cheaper too.
@21:00 This is an error Dr. Lyon and many others make… Is more muscle the root cause of longer life, as they claim, or is more muscle an effect of something else - better mitochondrial nutrition and function - that causes longer life? They claim it is the muscle. It is much more likely to be the better supported mitochondria… If your mitochondria is depleted of nutrients and dysregulated, more exercise could easily debilitate and/or kill you sooner.
I don't agree with your premise. I've listened to Don Layman a lot and also Gabrielle Lyon. I haven't got the impression that just because you have bigger muscles you will live longer. What I've got to understand is that when you get older you will experience more or less some sort of sarcopenia, and that sarcopenia almost is a death sentence if you fall, and the reason for that is that a lot of people who fall and injure themselves at an old age become bedridden and lose a ton of muscles and often never come back from the fall. Instead they die just a few months after the fall due to withering away. This is likely due to not having a fighting spirit, and also that if you have severe sarcopenia and fall the fall will brake you to pieces. A stronger more sturdy old person will not be as unfortunate because they will not fall into pieces.
Trickle Down Distopia, society thrives in victimhood, the excuse for the probability of failure. We look to guidance from a political class that is not born of intellect, but merely are financial vassals of special interest. In the United States it's is dominated by the Industrial/Financial districts, other countries appear to be tribalism of antiquity. Clarity of purpose is suppressed, for narcissistic egocentric gains. Good show!!!!
This is what I don't understand about what he's saying. If eating low carb helps with reducing insulin and the body becomes a fat burning machine, why for some people following this protocol does weight loss stop? and if it stops and people still have excess weight to lose, how do they go about continuing to lose weight?
This happened to me. I dropped 40lbs without effort in 2019 at 63 years of age. After following a mostly vegetarian diet for many years. I tracked every bite for months. But weight loss came to a screeching halt. So I keto'd harder and was down to 800-1000 cal OMAD. Some said dairy has to go. Some said not enough fat. Some said too much fat. My hair was falling out. Ack! 3 months at 800 keto calories daily, weighing and measuring food, and barely being in ketosis (finger prick tests)- scale didn't budge. So, I started regular extended fasts, and only eating 500-1100 cal daily, in between. The last bit was very difficult, but after 2 months I finally got 20 more lbs off. And that was incremental: fast, drop 3lb, refeed very carefully for a few days, gain 1.5-2 lbs back, fast 3 days, drop 3lbs, refeed, gain a couple, repeat, repeat, repeat... My BMI was about 25.5 at that point. I was happy...maintained for 2 years. Retired and it became more difficult. 😒 Home with hubby now. And traveling more. Going out to eat more. He is not on board for dieting or low carb...he is a sugar addict and embraces it. I think it is easier for men to process a lot of sugar. More testosterone, more muscle to use up the glucose.🤷♀️ Me: ⬆️ 20lbs in 2 years. 🥺
I'm in the same boat. PSMF might be the key. Currently trying P:E combined with lean days. Concentration on prioritizing proteins, whole foods. Wish me luck!
Stories like yours and my own experience tell me there's more to weight loss than just laying off the carbs. I seldom hear Gary Taubes talk about whether calories do or do not play a role. On another person's podcast, I heard him say: some people say calories play a role. This is frustrating statement because I've frequently heard Gary say that weight loss has nothing to do with calories in calories out. Ok. But it may have something to do with calories in. @@jellybeanvinkler4878
@@SoSo-ss6ub If you consume less calories than your body needs you WILL lose fat. It really doesn't matter what you eat to achieve this state of caloric deficit. If the body doesn't get its required energy (calories) from what you eat/drink it HAS TO burn fat (eventually) to get the energy it needs. Where else could the energy come from? From the air? Probably not.. That means: You will only lose fat if you are in a caloric deficit! Here's an extreme example: If you are going to only eat 500 calories per day in the form of sugar for one week, you will lose fat. Also: The more weight you gain the more calories your body will burn. And vice versa: The more weight you lose the less calories your body will burn. Therefore you will need to increase the caloric deficit after you lost (a significant amount of) weight if you want to continue losing weight.
Look into what Morley Robbins discovered in the scientific literature. Non-food iron is toxic to the mitochondria (and much more), and magnesium and copper are essential to mitochondrial function, yet the food system processes both out, NPK fertilizer contains neither, and nutrition labels lack both. The summary is simple: The Blue Bloods are depleting everyone else’s blue blood status.
I must've missed something-?? Can someone tell me WHAT diet did Peter Attia gain 30lbs on? (and Gary also seems to allude to the fact he gained weight on 'this' diet -?? Which diet is he talking about here? I did think the convo was mostly about Keto diet -??? ...now I'm confused about which diet he's referring to as adding weight onto himself (& Attia), etc.
@thelaststylebender1678 Why you are telling me that Attia is no longer on Keto, I don't know 🤷♀️ I never implied he was - so your news bulletin is not news to me. And yah, know all about Attia's cholesterol lowering meds as well (which btw, has nothing to do with anything here) My question - (which you may have misread?) Was...'What diet is Taubes stating in this video that Attia gained 30 lbs on - and Taubes gained weight on, as well -?" That was my question. EDIT - ...and the diet that Attia (supposedly) gained 30 lbs on was, for sure, NOT keto. I just listened to his segment on 'The Drive' - as to why he went off keto after 3 yrs. Could find nothing there about his gaining, or losing, weight on Keto. (maybe I misunderstood what Taubes said about Peter Attia & a weight gain on a certain diet -?)
He was referring to the traditional low fat high carb diet that was the ideal back then. Gary makes the statement within the last 2-3 minutes of this talk if you want to hear for yourself.
@@theskyehiker oh, really? I'll relisten - Sometimes I dont actually keep my attn span towards the end of a video if I feel I've got the overall gist. So, may have not even reached that part at all. But, I am wondering (if I've understood you correctly) why he clarified the diet he was referring to (that he & Attia gained weight on) so far past the point at which he originally mentioned the fact -??🤷 (as well, this must have been LONG ago . I follow Attia...don't recall his ever talking about a low-fat diet, for him.) Thanks! for answering, though. Appreciate it!👍
Also, I hear calorie confusion may help increase metabolism. So maybe going up and down with calories so your body doesn't get used to a set amount and slow down. Just a thought.
Great information. I've been low carb and fasting now for 5 years. 82 years old now, feel great, no meds.
I've been low carb and fasting with type 1 diabetes for 9 years now!
I thank God for Gary Taubes. i was fortunate to come across his book years ago at aweight of 235 lbs, with severe high blood pressure and inflamed joints. today at 85 lbs. lighter my blood pressure is very teenager like and walk and exercise with ease. Thank you so much Gary and please continue fighting the good fight, Truth is hard to come by in today's world.
I saw recently where only 10% of studies published were repeatable when another group went back and did the study. 10% is a dismal finding and certainly explains the lack of credibility.
Excellent talk.
I love how Gary has spent his career courageously exposing so many of the fallacies of mainstream science.
Epidemiology is, at best, modern shamanism... without the beneficial parts.
58:00 The ability to denounce his previous errors is why i hold Tim Noakes in the highest esteem as a scientist.
It was an interesting interview. Thanks for having Gary Taubes.
Amazing episode. Already listened on Spotify 😊
This is fantastic. And this topic is so incredibly important.
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I especially liked that stuff advertised with real grass in it.........wow.
If you have never had a weight problem, you might be inclined to think you have the answer for those do, that is eat what you eat and exercise like you do. The rest of us have Gary Taubes who has spent his life researching and observing that carbohydrates, mostly sugar are the problem and that a keto diet ( or as close as you can manage) is the solution. It works better than Ozempic and it’s alot cheaper too.
@21:00 This is an error Dr. Lyon and many others make… Is more muscle the root cause of longer life, as they claim, or is more muscle an effect of something else - better mitochondrial nutrition and function - that causes longer life?
They claim it is the muscle. It is much more likely to be the better supported mitochondria…
If your mitochondria is depleted of nutrients and dysregulated, more exercise could easily debilitate and/or kill you sooner.
I don't agree with your premise. I've listened to Don Layman a lot and also Gabrielle Lyon. I haven't got the impression that just because you have bigger muscles you will live longer. What I've got to understand is that when you get older you will experience more or less some sort of sarcopenia, and that sarcopenia almost is a death sentence if you fall, and the reason for that is that a lot of people who fall and injure themselves at an old age become bedridden and lose a ton of muscles and often never come back from the fall. Instead they die just a few months after the fall due to withering away. This is likely due to not having a fighting spirit, and also that if you have severe sarcopenia and fall the fall will brake you to pieces. A stronger more sturdy old person will not be as unfortunate because they will not fall into pieces.
Trickle Down Distopia, society thrives in victimhood, the excuse for the probability of failure. We look to guidance from a political class that is not born of intellect, but merely are financial vassals of special interest. In the United States it's is dominated by the Industrial/Financial districts, other countries appear to be tribalism of antiquity. Clarity of purpose is suppressed, for narcissistic egocentric gains.
Good show!!!!
Former buddy Peter Attia? - what happened?
This is what I don't understand about what he's saying. If eating low carb helps with reducing insulin and the body becomes a fat burning machine, why for some people following this protocol does weight loss stop? and if it stops and people still have excess weight to lose, how do they go about continuing to lose weight?
This happened to me. I dropped 40lbs without effort in 2019 at 63 years of age. After following a mostly vegetarian diet for many years.
I tracked every bite for months. But weight loss came to a screeching halt. So I keto'd harder and was down to 800-1000 cal OMAD. Some said dairy has to go. Some said not enough fat. Some said too much fat. My hair was falling out. Ack!
3 months at 800 keto calories daily, weighing and measuring food, and barely being in ketosis (finger prick tests)- scale didn't budge.
So, I started regular extended fasts, and only eating 500-1100 cal daily, in between.
The last bit was very difficult, but after 2 months I finally got 20 more lbs off. And that was incremental: fast, drop 3lb, refeed very carefully for a few days, gain 1.5-2 lbs back, fast 3 days, drop 3lbs, refeed, gain a couple, repeat, repeat, repeat...
My BMI was about 25.5 at that point. I was happy...maintained for 2 years. Retired and it became more difficult. 😒 Home with hubby now. And traveling more. Going out to eat more. He is not on board for dieting or low carb...he is a sugar addict and embraces it. I think it is easier for men to process a lot of sugar. More testosterone, more muscle to use up the glucose.🤷♀️
Me: ⬆️ 20lbs in 2 years. 🥺
I'm in the same boat. PSMF might be the key. Currently trying P:E combined with lean days. Concentration on prioritizing proteins, whole foods. Wish me luck!
no idea what your acronyms stand for lol, but good luck@@categ6394
Stories like yours and my own experience tell me there's more to weight loss than just laying off the carbs. I seldom hear Gary Taubes talk about whether calories do or do not play a role. On another person's podcast, I heard him say: some people say calories play a role.
This is frustrating statement because I've frequently heard Gary say that weight loss has nothing to do with calories in calories out. Ok. But it may have something to do with calories in. @@jellybeanvinkler4878
@@SoSo-ss6ub If you consume less calories than your body needs you WILL lose fat. It really doesn't matter what you eat to achieve this state of caloric deficit. If the body doesn't get its required energy (calories) from what you eat/drink it HAS TO burn fat (eventually) to get the energy it needs. Where else could the energy come from? From the air? Probably not..
That means: You will only lose fat if you are in a caloric deficit!
Here's an extreme example: If you are going to only eat 500 calories per day in the form of sugar for one week, you will lose fat.
Also: The more weight you gain the more calories your body will burn. And vice versa: The more weight you lose the less calories your body will burn. Therefore you will need to increase the caloric deficit after you lost (a significant amount of) weight if you want to continue losing weight.
Sugar is bad. Meat is good.
Sorry you do not get it.
Gary look into mitochondria through the lens of bio quantum mechanism. You will feel just at home. I did.
Look into what Morley Robbins discovered in the scientific literature. Non-food iron is toxic to the mitochondria (and much more), and magnesium and copper are essential to mitochondrial function, yet the food system processes both out, NPK fertilizer contains neither, and nutrition labels lack both.
The summary is simple: The Blue Bloods are depleting everyone else’s blue blood status.
I must've missed something-??
Can someone tell me WHAT diet did Peter Attia gain 30lbs on? (and Gary also seems to allude to the fact he gained weight on 'this' diet -??
Which diet is he talking about here?
I did think the convo was mostly about Keto diet -???
...now I'm confused about which diet he's referring to as adding weight onto himself (& Attia), etc.
Peter Attia is no longer on a keto diet. He hasn't been keto for many years. In addition, he is on 3 medications for his cholesterol.
@thelaststylebender1678
Why you are telling me that Attia is no longer on Keto, I don't know 🤷♀️
I never implied he was - so your news bulletin is not news to me.
And yah, know all about Attia's cholesterol lowering meds as well (which btw, has nothing to do with anything here)
My question - (which you may have misread?)
Was...'What diet is Taubes stating in this video that Attia gained 30 lbs on - and Taubes gained weight on, as well -?"
That was my question.
EDIT - ...and the diet that Attia (supposedly) gained 30 lbs on was, for sure, NOT keto.
I just listened to his segment on 'The Drive' - as to why he went off keto after 3 yrs. Could find nothing there about his gaining, or losing, weight on Keto.
(maybe I misunderstood what Taubes said about Peter Attia & a weight gain on a certain diet -?)
He was referring to the traditional low fat high carb diet that was the ideal back then. Gary makes the statement within the last 2-3 minutes of this talk if you want to hear for yourself.
@@theskyehiker oh, really?
I'll relisten - Sometimes I dont actually keep my attn span towards the end of a video if I feel I've got the overall gist.
So, may have not even reached that part at all.
But, I am wondering (if I've understood you correctly)
why he clarified the diet he was referring to (that he & Attia gained weight on) so far past the point at which he originally mentioned the fact -??🤷
(as well, this must have been LONG ago . I follow Attia...don't recall his ever talking about a low-fat diet, for him.)
Thanks! for answering, though. Appreciate it!👍
Also, I hear calorie confusion may help increase metabolism. So maybe going up and down with calories so your body doesn't get used to a set amount and slow down. Just a thought.
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Pathetic in every aspect.
😂...we all ❤ a good drug😮
"My 'former' buddy, Peter Attia" - ??🙄
Does that mean what it sounds like ?🤔
No. Peter Attia interviewed Gary not so long ago. It's long, beautiful, and worth the listen.