TED Talk - Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi - Flow - 2004
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi fragt: "Was macht ein Leben lebenswert?" Unter der Feststellung, dass Geld uns nicht glücklich machen kann, richtet er seinen Blick auf jene, die Vergnügen und dauerhafte Befriedigung in Tätigkeiten finden, die einen Zustand des "Fließens", des "Flow" mit sich bringen.
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Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi fragt: "Was macht ein Leben lebenswert?" Unter der Feststellung, dass Geld uns nicht glücklich machen kann, richtet er seinen Blick auf jene, die Vergnügen und dauerhafte Befriedigung in Tätigkeiten finden, die einen Zustand des "Fließens", des "Flow" mit sich bringen.
Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi has died at the age of 87 on October 20, 2021. Thanks Dr Csikszentmihalyi for your enlightment.
Condolence!
seems my uni chose to have the exam about him this year to respect him
By far the best book of my life...FLOW by Mihaly...
Thanks Mihaly for this revolutionary Work.. 🙏🙏🙏
my girl bought me the book and im about 50 pages in and its flipped my life upside down its very well written!!
Let this moment last. I finally have. It's all true. You don't need eat, sleep, you jus focue on and you are so calm. It's Beautiful
I get into a state of flow when I write stories, but I wouldn't say it is effortlessly for me. If I didn't write for a while I struggle with getting into it, if I'm feeling down or tired or maybe the sun is shining outside calling me to bathe in its light, it is not always effortlessly. I think this is important to note so people don't think 'oh this must not give me flow because I have to put in too much effort'. Because when I do put in this effort, I do get in the state of flow.
Once you reach enough expertise in an area flow should occur more readily & easily. If you’re not easily reaching it you need to just keep investing in it until it’s as effortless as breathing for you. Then flow will be automatic. His graph shows this sweet spot.
The 8 Characteristics of Flow
Csikszentmihalyi describes eight characteristics of flow:
Complete concentration on the task;
Clarity of goals and reward in mind and immediate feedback;
Transformation of time (speeding up/slowing down);
The experience is intrinsically rewarding;
Effortlessness and ease;
There is a balance between challenge and skills;
Actions and awareness are merged, losing self-conscious rumination;
There is a feeling of control over the task.
Thanks!
Köszönjük.
Yo to all the haters 🖕
You don’t know wtf you’re talking about..
This guy is a FUCKING LEGEND.
Just putting into words and into an easily digestible and coherent thesis for the common lay person to understand, what is this spiritual instinct for us to do more & go beyond, which in my belief, is truly potential realizing.
This is a major key 🔑🗝
If this comment was too much, sorry, I was just FLOWING 😂
Are you ten years old?
@@jantjehouten5806 FR lol
I don’t think you understood a single thing he said if this comment is what you took away from it lol
Lovely interview, very enlightening. Thanks.
Thanks for everything 🙏
Thanks for the knowledge.. Much love & gratitude for sharing.. God bless..
Found out about him today.💗👍🏾🌷Thanks Google
9/29/23
This is perfect reflection of " when you are out of flow." And his book is perfect reflection of " when you are in Flow "
This was very helpful and very directional to enter or even try to achieve the flow... very interesting concepts and study! 😊😊
Really like that wheel of feelings; I can "rotate" all the way from Anxiety to Control, so obviously what I always try to do is stay in "Control" to avoid the pain of the more challenging zones. Wish he would elaborate on how to increase skill while having to deal with these negative emotions.
you shouldn't describe them as negative but rather an insightful reflection of what you are feeling in response to what you are doing. If you experience high anxiety in an activity there could be various contributing factors to why you feel that way, perhaps you don't like to fail, or feel embarrassed when you can't do something as good as you would like to. ideally, you should evolve from this state of being by responding positively to these negative seeming emotions. I suggest taking on a challenge in increments, where the anxiety level will be lower than when taking on a full plate of something challenging. the prime objective should be to guide yourself through the challenge with patience and love, rather than feeling upset with yourself when you can't overcome the challenge let it be an indication of areas of improvement. you can achieve anything you put your mind to, you just must know how to apply your mind.
@@Shaolin-Jesus Thank you for the reply, man. Been trying to give some small steps towards a bigger picture, currently under the "no more zero days" mentality. Hopefully that can spring me into deeper waters later on.
@@Marcotonio no problem, its good to be there for each other. Pace yourself, strength doesn't come from overcoming, its comes from practice, focus, dedication and understanding. i believe in you.
Just don't give reaction to feelings associated with negative emotions ...be like ok this is passing through me and I am aware of it ....if u try to identify urself with those feelings then those feeling clinge to u then with speed of light mood swings ..and ur ability to work diminishes ....and mind refuse to concentrate on any thing u want to do...
he was really flowing in that talk, that's why he lost sense of time ;)
Bottom line , Flow in work exists as long your boss doesn’t show up and causes you stress
I'm sure they wouldn't have minded if he kept on going on for an hour
That is how you get into the flow state. No benefit of 5 minute flow
Kids listen to it at 1x
Men at 1.5x
Legends at 0.5x
@ I agree. But this is a meme.
@ Boomer is finish. Even center fresh also finish. Only Big babool.
not just men
I listen at 2x
I am reading his book for class..very interesting
I must have been in a state of flow watching this. Before I know it, it ended
This is the TRUTH, this is GOLD.😃👳🤺💎
I’ve heard FLOW attached to many other concepts concerning work and productivity, but not happiness. I Love that he was inspired by Carl Jung . 🙂
**** LOOOOVE THIS !!!
So cool
He is talking about flow while getting into flow - couldn't be more accurate.
thanks for the book and thanks for the video! =)
flow is just a synonym for happiness, except that defines it better, it's a bit more true
I'd be curious what happens in the brain in a state of flow. I feel like flow is more a state of intense concentration, like obsessively seeking a reward like knowledge or creating something. Like when you watch a good movie you want to see what happens next. Or if you're writing and very concentrated, completely immersed. I'm sure everyone has felt that way.
Laurie Santos explains this is in her online Yale course called The Science of Well Being
but this depends a lot on the perceptio of the person. the meannig we gave to the things that we do. the why, changes reality.
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watch at 1.5 x to enter the flow in this video..
Americans in this comment section are bored because there are no performing antics, just pure content.
I recognize the accent as Hungarian...wow..i was right, although his name is not it seems..
I wish that he had given his definition of "happiness."
he did.. Happiness is a bi-product of flow... Full involvment leaves you with gratification, because you recieve order in your consiousness... Thhis happens when you do the work effortlessly and just to do the work for the work's sake.. and not for symbolic goals like attaining fame or money etc.
Read his book called flow.. It is very interesting and useful knowledge.
one more important thhing... Nothing spiritual about flow even though people like to call it spiritual
In the introductory chapter of his book 'Flow' Mihaly essentially puts it down to not a target, or based on achievements but a state of consistant meaningful work. I.E. Happiness takes a constant effort, because meaningful work does (and he mentions the plateau of those who say win the lottery for e.g. work stops). Having met targets just means having to find new targets. There is no happily ever after if you are not engaged in meaningful work.
Ha, ha, you can n o t d e f i n e happiness - you have to e x p e r i e n c e it !!!
It’s completely subjective.
Who is here after reading Grit? :)
God Bless!! 🙏 🥁🍦😂❤️💙💜
At 1.25 speed you can see he is in flow state 🤣
good！！！
Traduzione in italiano sarebbe meraviglioso,,il miglioramento avviene anche. Così,,,,🎉🎉🎉
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EFAP LEGEND!
Don's blessing you massive
clever enough to make my Rapper Name FLOW
10:45 what does he mean ?
He is describing the familiarity of the flow after absorbing as much practical information as possible for so many years and practices for a long time a person is able to get into the flow more easily. Think about it like you're riding a bike for the first time. You keep riding it but after awhile it gets rusty. You need know how to ride a bike but because you haven't oiled the chain much you can't get into flow. That rustyness is due to not doing it for a long time. We get rusty when we don't practice daily. Are brains never forgot the neural patterns are still engraved in our brain but we need "unlock" by starting up again.
Not realistic to expect being in the flow if your social economical status is in risk. Maybe good theory for the West.
Flow has nothing to do with this. Look into a concept called "occupational justice" (An occupational perspective of health, Wilcock, 1998)
She describes social factors preventing a person's engagement in meaningful occupations. Occupational deprivation is an aspect of the concept I believe is in the essence of your comment.
@@thomaswhyte5552 which still effects how individuals reach flow, those who do not have the ability nor time to get in a state of flow due to economic circumstances are overall unable to reach flow. so, while this is a good idea it is completely unrealistic to expect struggling individuals to find something they truly enjoy (flow) while they are constantly stressed.
Unless flow has nothing to do with the true enjoyment of what you are doing but more on the subconscious ability to do it after long repetition.
Kuroko no basket lol
The Zone
@@Deepanshu412 it is basically the same thing
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Giannis D. ragonite that is why I am here
I find him a bit hard to follow
I watch this after doing some research on positive psychology. I guess it might be hard to follow without background knowledge. His sentences are paused at unexpected time sometimes thereby making one lose focus. But he is legendary in PosPsy along with Seligman.
Because there are no performances and light jokes, which Americans have been programmed to look for
how i can download the video with the subtitles in english
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Been seeing more connections between Flow and exercise physiology. Glad to see this conversation revived.
Use the TEDx app
anyone get this from fighting
Ahmed Khalid Everyone I would imagine. Fighting for survival means nothing else is important to think or worry about at the moment.
Who is Ted
In flow
Why unique meditative and flow states do not exist
As a rule, simple and effective procedures are justified by simple and comprehensible explanations, which also affirm what you are doing and the limitations of what you can do. This is why we have confidence in our modern technologies from vaccinations to jet travel. Yet, for psychotherapeutic procedures, and in particular meditative procedures, this is not the case, as explanations for their efficacy are convoluted, complex, and most often untestable. Presented here is a simple argument that the presupposition of a unique meditative state must be abandoned, and in its place a neurologically updated definition of resting states, and a simple procedure that can confirm or falsify it.
It must be emphasized that this does not in the slightest invalidate the importance of meditative practices, but ironically confirms and extends them. Indeed, shorn of its religious, new age, and neurological metaphors and grounded to simple processes, meditative procedures can gain far greater acceptance and prominence in our everyday lives.
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In a 1984 article in the flagship journal of the APA, ‘The American Psychologist’, the psychologist David Holmes reviewed the literature on meditation and concluded that meditative states are no different from resting states. The article (linked below) was roundly criticized because resting was presumably a dormant and non-affective state, quite at odds with the fact that meditation has affective and cognitive entailments that go beyond mere resting. However, from the perspective of affective neuroscience, resting states are not simple non-affective states but are dynamic affective states that are continually modulated by information derived from inner thoughts to outward perceptions. This position is not difficult to understand, and can be summarized below and easily confirmed or falsified through simple procedure.
The ideal for any scientist with a great idea is to be able to explain it in a minute, and to confirm or falsify it as quickly. The world record for this arguably goes to the English philosopher Samuel Johnson, who rejected Archbishop Berkeley’s argument that material things only exist in one’s mind by striking his foot against a large stone while proclaiming, “I refute it thusly!” So here is a novel procedure demonstrating the continuity of rest from mindful to ‘flow’ states, quickly refutable with a good swift kick!
Summary
Endogenous opioids are induced when we eat, drink, have sex, and relax, and are responsible for our pleasures. Opioid activity however is not static, but labile, or changeable. When elicited, opioid release is always modulated by concurrently perceived novel act-outcome expectancies which may range from negative to positive. If they are negative (e.g. a spate of bad news), opioid activity is suppressed and our pleasures are reduced (anhedonia), but if they are positive, then opioid activity is enhanced and our pleasures are accentuated as well (peak experience, ‘flow’). This is due to dopamine-opioid interactions, or the fact that act-outcome discrepancy, or positive or negative surprises, can induce or suppress dopaminergic activity, which in turn can enhance or suppress opioid release. This can be demonstrated procedurally, and if correct, can provide a therapeutic tool to increase arousal and pleasure, or positive wellbeing, and mitigate stress.
Basic Facts:
Endogenous opioids are induced when we eat, drink, have sex, and relax. Their affective correlate, or how it ‘feels’, is a sense of pleasure. The neuro-modulator dopamine is released upon the anticipation or perception of positive act-outcome discrepancy or novelty, and is felt a sense of arousal or ‘energy’, but not pleasure.
Fun Fact:
When we are concurrently perceiving some activity that has a variable and unexpected rate of reward while consuming something pleasurable, opioid activity increases and with it a higher sense of pleasure. In other words, popcorn tastes better when we are watching an exciting movie than when we are watching paint dry. The same effect occurs when we are performing highly variable rewarding or meaningful activity (creating art, doing good deeds, doing productive work) while in a pleasurable relaxed state. (Meaning would be defined as behavior that has branching novel positive implications). This is commonly referred to as ‘flow’ or ‘peak’ experience. The same phenomenon underscores the placebo effect, which describes how expectancies can increase dopamine and opioid activity, such as when a meal is tastier or a sugar pill reduces pain when we anticipate they will.
So why does this occur?
Dopamine-Opioid interactions: or the fact that dopamine activity (elicited by positive novel events, and responsible for a state of arousal, but not pleasure) interacts with our pleasures (as reflected by mid brain opioid systems), and can actually stimulate opioid release, which is reflected in self-reports of greater pleasure.
Proof (or kicking the stone):
Just get relaxed using a relaxation protocol such as progressive muscle relaxation, eyes closed rest, or mindfulness, and then follow it by exclusively attending to or performing meaningful activity, and avoiding all meaningless activity or ‘distraction’. Keep it up and you will not only stay relaxed, but continue so with a greater sense of wellbeing or pleasure. (In other words, this is a procedural bridge between mindful and ‘flow’ experiences that are not unique psychological ‘states’, but merely represent special aspects of resting states.) The attribution of affective value to meaningful behavior makes the latter seem ‘autotelic’, or reinforcing in itself, and the resultant persistent and the resultant persistent attention to meaning crowds out the occasions we might have spent dwelling on other unmeaningful worries and concerns.
A Likely Explanation, as if you need one!
A more formal explanation from a neurologically based learning theory of this technique is provided on pp. 44-51 in a little open-source book on the psychology of rest linked below. (The flow experience is discussed on pp. 81-86.) The book is based on the work of the distinguished affective neuroscientist Kent Berridge, who was kind to review for accuracy and endorse the work.
From meditation to flow
Affect in rest is labile, or changeable, and rest (i.e. the general deactivation of the covert musculature) is not an inert and non-affective state, but modulates affective systems in the brain. In addition, the degree of the modulation of pleasurable affect induced by rest is not dependent upon a species of attention (focal meditation, mindfulness meditation), but is ‘schedule dependent’, and correlates with the variability of schedules or contingencies of reward and the discriminative aspects of incentives (i.e. their cognitive implications). In other words, sustained meaningful activity or the anticipation of acting meaningfully during resting states increases the affective ‘tone’ or value of that behavior, thus making productive work ‘autotelic’, or rewarding in itself, and providing a consistent feeling of arousal and pleasure, or shall we say, ‘happiness’.
References:
Rauwolf, P., et al. (2021) Reward uncertainty - as a 'psychological salt'- can alter the sensory experience and consumption of high-value rewards in young healthy adults. Journal of Experimental Psychology: General (prepub)
doi.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fxge0001029
Benedetti, F., et al(2011). How placebos change the patient's brain. Neuropsychopharmacology : official publication of the American College of Neuropsychopharmacology, 36(1), 339-354.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3055515/
The Psychology of Rest
www.scribd.com/doc/284056765/The-Book-of-Rest-The-Odd-Psychology-of-Doing-Nothing
The Psychology of Incentive Motivation and Affect
www.scribd.com/document/495438436/A-Mouse-s-Tale-a-practical-explanation-and-handbook-of-motivation-from-the-perspective-of-a-humble-creature
Meditation and Rest- The American Psychologist
www.scribd.com/document/291558160/Holmes-Meditation-and-Rest-The-American-Psychologist
The Psychology of Rest, from International Journal of Stress Management, by this author
www.scribd.com/doc/121345732/Relaxation-and-Muscular-Tension-A-bio-behavioristic-explanation
History and Development of Motivation Theory - Berridge
lsa.umich.edu/psych/research&labs/berridge/publications/Berridge2001Rewardlearningchapter.pdf
Berridge Lab, University of Michigan sites.lsa.umich.edu/berridge-lab/
🤣ah yes everyone under the Sagittarius symbol 🤣👍.
That surname though….
His surname comes from a village in Romania called Csíkszentmihály. It literally means Stripe Saint Michael.
chick-zent-me-hi
I just think it`s too much time for too little content. Boring presentation.
he talk sooo slow... i completely lost interest 2 minutes in and had to speed it up.
What happened to our generation's attention span....
NPJ Global born in the wrong generation? Lmao
This has nothing to do with generations... A slow talker in a long speech is usually not interesting to listen to, it's totally understandable if people want to speed these videos especially up.
Thats interesting. When I speed it up I got annoyed and because of his accent it was harder to follow so I put it back to normal and it was good. Maybe cause im used to it since my professors where also talking like that in university
@@acidset It definitely does.
Very painful to listen to
im black.
🐱 that's nice
I like his book but speaking he is so boring
Franco Rocket Play his videos at 1.5x speed.
The contents of this lecture is just as incomprehensible as the guy's last name.
Something something spiritual something flow...
Did you even listen to it? This is not a talk about spirituality. And by calling it incomprehensible you are only insulting yourself.
Lol
Well, well, detour it, if you don't like it.
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