A Hopeful Hell: I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream

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  • @Wendigoon
    @Wendigoon  3 роки тому +3336

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    • @bry9329
      @bry9329 3 роки тому +29

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    • @jahrfuhlnehm
      @jahrfuhlnehm 3 роки тому +63

      You may have no mouth, and can no longer scream, but do you know what you *do* still have?
      That's right, you have ears, and can still hear! And with Raycons...

    • @bry9329
      @bry9329 3 роки тому +6

      @@jahrfuhlnehm lmfaoo

    • @Blackhearto
      @Blackhearto 3 роки тому +10

      My mans doin' the sponsor even before the video's out, that some gangsta shit right there

    • @ThrobbertJomes
      @ThrobbertJomes 3 роки тому +4

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  • @gamesux420
    @gamesux420 3 роки тому +14641

    -kills all the remaining humans
    -becomes disgusting slugman
    -makes AM mald by leaving him without any way to vent his anger, not even torture is satisfactory
    -refuses to elaborate further
    absolutely based

    • @sewerworld6448
      @sewerworld6448 3 роки тому +97

      it's Christian allegory...like most things...

    • @bbbbb4031
      @bbbbb4031 3 роки тому +1130

      Chad ted vs virgin AM

    • @DanateDMC
      @DanateDMC 3 роки тому +971

      Virgin machine brain Vs Chad Human Spirit

    • @EinFelsbrocken
      @EinFelsbrocken 3 роки тому +970

      This truly is the unscreaming mouthless sigma jellymale grindset

    • @btljxs84930
      @btljxs84930 3 роки тому +268

      @@EinFelsbrocken crying lmfao how do you even come up with this

  • @fredwupkensoppel8949
    @fredwupkensoppel8949 3 роки тому +21354

    There is so much middle finger energy in the whole "yeah I am just a blob now but I really annoyed my tormentor at one point, which is big fat W in my book"

  • @gigachad9016
    @gigachad9016 Рік тому +10878

    The most absolutely triumphant part of the story was as Ted was coming to grips with the fact that he saved the others from AM’s torture, he declared to himself that AM is not God and AM can’t bring them back to life now. He broke through his own delusions to spite AM and it was glorious

    • @Gooberwares
      @Gooberwares Рік тому +398

      And despite it seeming like he can’t die and join them I kinda think he can
      Despite am being prolly so angry and focused on Ted now it’ll slip up it did in 109 years what’s to say it won’t happen again perhaps an outside force will provide a chance to Ted to pass on

    • @Crouch_Gob
      @Crouch_Gob Рік тому +169

      @@Gooberwares I mean if he's just a blob it's not like he'd really be able to act on any oppertunity...

    • @Crouch_Gob
      @Crouch_Gob Рік тому +9

      thank you for your analysis gigachad9016 👍

    • @Gooberwares
      @Gooberwares Рік тому +12

      @Crouch_Gob not himself no maybe he'll get lucky

    • @zillycat8534
      @zillycat8534 Рік тому +130

      @@GooberwaresTechnically yes
      Only humans would be able to properly build on Am, and they are all gone, except one who cannot do anything, so he cannot advance further without making mistakes, and those mistakes he wouldn’t even be able to tell they aren’t correct as it requires prior knowledge
      It would take a long time, but space is still space
      Wether a meteor comes and destroys the earth or the sun will eventually grow so big it will suck up the earth, or it will explode first

  • @theshotgungod6018
    @theshotgungod6018 Рік тому +11104

    This is true horror. Not the threat of death, but the inability to die.

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 Рік тому +182

      This might come up with the topic of immortality, uploading your mind to a computer, and transhumanism.

    • @LegatoBlue
      @LegatoBlue 10 місяців тому +149

      Exactly that's the most terrifying point to me. A big philosophy in humanity is there will be an end to the suffering eventually. Knowing there is no end and more than likely never will be is absolutely horrifying.

    • @maddz_xk
      @maddz_xk 7 місяців тому +24

      Taking away what makes us human, our body, our soul, and yes our ability to die

    • @starmhatextingstory2889
      @starmhatextingstory2889 7 місяців тому

      I mean eventuly they will die, in billions of years when the planet explodes or when the universe finally closes in on itself so even if in millions or billions of years the universe will end and AM will eventually lose wither it likes it or not it will lose and snail ted or will and AM will vanish

    • @wslushyoz
      @wslushyoz 7 місяців тому +14

      @@kittykittybangbang9367 there's a game with that idea about a teenage girl who performs a ritual to do just that and is alone for years until you find her abandoned computer

  • @imbrudedsoul
    @imbrudedsoul 3 роки тому +12111

    “Benny is afforded moments of peace, even if it comes from a place of stupidity”
    Same

  • @deensama7718
    @deensama7718 3 роки тому +8776

    the title/end sentence is also the representation of teds triumph over AM. the scream of humanity IS AMs only purpose, yet ted has no mouth and cannot fulfill that purpose anymore for AM

    • @Emma-zm1qn
      @Emma-zm1qn 3 роки тому +350

      this is a really good interpretation!

    • @natabugg1e
      @natabugg1e 3 роки тому +31

      damn

    • @hisholiness4537
      @hisholiness4537 3 роки тому +157

      So basically edging.

    • @lasarousi
      @lasarousi 3 роки тому +223

      @@hisholiness4537 change this story title to "I need to hire and have no balls"

    • @SMA2343
      @SMA2343 2 роки тому +239

      Yeah, as we see when Benny starts to eat Gorester, He screams loudly and AM starts to laugh. He loves the scream, knowing he’s in pain.
      Now that Ted doesn’t have a mouth, he can no longer scream. AM can no longer inflict pain to Ted. As AM will never know what Ted would ever say. It’s a victory, AM’s goal of torturing the last of humanity comes to an end.

  • @robynstopped
    @robynstopped Рік тому +10552

    I think Ted hates Ellen because she represents hope, and in an endless torture scenario hope is a trap. She tries to make them empathize for humanity and that just makes what is happening mean worse things. In Ted's opinion, it's better to be mindless because that means AM has less ability to torture you, especially emotionally. Ted sees Ellen as forcing them all to care which only makes their torture more tragic and painful.

    • @N3phi11im
      @N3phi11im Рік тому +1

      I think he loves her and he's jealous that she was having sex with the other men.

    • @rorygal2991
      @rorygal2991 Рік тому +819

      That's such an interesting take; it feels like it could absolutely be true. Nothing is worse, when you're depressed, than an optimist who doesn't let you wallow and constantly tries to build you up. They're just trying to help the only way they know how, but it ends up making you feel weak because "why can't I just be like them???"

    • @xendurr8180
      @xendurr8180 Рік тому +174

      It's like helping a friend climb up the edge of a cliff but "the wind" pushes him every time he gets up and falls back down again.

    • @zitronentee
      @zitronentee Рік тому +147

      Ah, the Pandora's Box, in which hope can be seen both curse and blessing.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Рік тому +34

      Cliff Hanger, hanging from a cliff
      And that’s why he’s called Cliff Hanger!

  • @krystalreverb
    @krystalreverb 7 місяців тому +726

    This reminds me of the saying “A hero is hurt and doesn’t want anyone else to hurt the way they did. A villain is hurt, and wants the entire world to suffer just like they did.”

    • @enigmaticglo
      @enigmaticglo 5 місяців тому +10

      except for palpatine

    • @asdasasdas3476
      @asdasasdas3476 4 місяці тому +1

      Palpatine is just a A grade basterd and he lives for it

    • @laurahuynh8333
      @laurahuynh8333 2 місяці тому

      That’s deep.

  • @mr.voidout4739
    @mr.voidout4739 2 роки тому +4621

    Interesting how Ted becomes a "reverse" martyr; suffering life so others may pass-on. It really illustrates that the way we perceive our concepts as a one or two way street simply isn't so.

  • @AlexxKister
    @AlexxKister 3 роки тому +25998

    This story was like made for wendigoon to cover

    • @connerc6721
      @connerc6721 3 роки тому +1410

      fuck dude your videos give me nightmares. Love your work.

    • @enclosedgranddad1715
      @enclosedgranddad1715 3 роки тому +499

      Your work is genuinely scary, which is something that many other horror works nowadays don't accomplish. Can't wait for Season 2!
      EDIT: The wait was worth it! The first half of Vol. 2 is a little cheesy, but it gave me Marble Hornets vibes.
      Also, the second half made me want to sleep with the lights on.

    • @DEFxRECON
      @DEFxRECON 3 роки тому +658

      It is the creator of the Scrimblo Catalogue.

    • @miniespeon158
      @miniespeon158 3 роки тому +90

      Exactly lol, also I love your work, truly a thing is horror that even the walten files didn’t really achieve

    • @theblackcatgirl7013
      @theblackcatgirl7013 3 роки тому +95

      @@connerc6721 I just wanted to reply "Agreed" then I saw your reply so I thought "Oh another UA-camr let me check the na-"

  • @iTrivyum
    @iTrivyum 2 роки тому +7412

    I'd like to think the expression Ellen had on her face was of gratefulness, thanking Ted for the mercy, but as well as a mixture of horror, for the unimaginable torture Ted had just subjected himself into for what he'd just done.

    • @QuinnShaw
      @QuinnShaw 2 роки тому +688

      Yeah, it was surprise that Ted turned himself into a martyr after seeming like a selfish asshole for a century. Sadness that he would be left alone in hell. At least before they had each other.

    • @nikopack7571
      @nikopack7571 2 роки тому +523

      to quote the original text,
      "I could not read meaning into her expression, the pain had been too great, had contorted her face; but it might have been thank you. It's possible. Please."

    • @clumpofdirt1193
      @clumpofdirt1193 Рік тому +71

      why couldnt they have stabbed themselves/ each other at the same time? was that not an option or just plot has to plot?

    • @piscessoedroen
      @piscessoedroen Рік тому

      @@clumpofdirt1193 considering ellen is the most humane, i doubt she has enough mental fortitude to off herself

    • @pancakes8107
      @pancakes8107 Рік тому +243

      @@clumpofdirt1193 I think it's because AM knows everything, if they planned he would know. It only worked because it was spur of the moment.

  • @fratboylaney
    @fratboylaney 7 місяців тому +247

    I also think it's fascinating that AM, in his fit of rage after Tedd killed everyone else, needed to think of the worst possible punishment for Tedd, and that came in the form of making him almost exactly like AM. The capacity for thought and life without the capability of it.

  • @davidintrabartolo5887
    @davidintrabartolo5887 2 роки тому +6033

    Something cool about the video game is that Ellison voiced AM himself after deciding that the original VA wasn't angry and spiteful enough.

    • @vizthex
      @vizthex 2 роки тому +311

      lmao, that's great

    • @alexamderhamiltom5238
      @alexamderhamiltom5238 2 роки тому +281

      sounds like him

    • @Karak-_-
      @Karak-_- 2 роки тому +380

      Well, props there, AM really sounded as a magnificent bastard.

    • @LordVader1094
      @LordVader1094 Рік тому +276

      Yeah considering how angry and spiteful Ellison was I don't think anyone could've done it better

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Рік тому +199

      That’s probably the closest he’s ever gotten to therapy lmfao

  • @SardonicSoul
    @SardonicSoul 2 роки тому +3943

    The ending is pure irony, since AM did the same misstakes, as humanity. He robbed himself of everything, and created his own, personal hell.

    • @Isus273
      @Isus273 2 роки тому +42

      Saw no replies and felt like typing "ok"

    • @maxbradley4097
      @maxbradley4097 2 роки тому +23

      @@Isus273 its so weird how often that happens.

    • @xxdomoxxkunxx
      @xxdomoxxkunxx 2 роки тому +96

      A machine that replicates its creator. It's ironic considering how much AM hates mankind

    • @kowh262
      @kowh262 2 роки тому +5

      O
      Lol

    • @LilFrg
      @LilFrg 2 роки тому +6

      It's brilliant, I really enjoyed this story

  • @tylercoon1791
    @tylercoon1791 2 роки тому +36899

    If Harlan Ellison was alive, and saw your interpretation of his story, his response would probably be along the lines of ‘No, and you smell like a French cheese’, even if you were correct.

    • @cctwoicy
      @cctwoicy 2 роки тому +2054

      he’s the darker version of david lynch

    • @oxitape1563
      @oxitape1563 2 роки тому +2576

      Harlan Ellison is the Sci-Fi writer equivalent of a Twitter user lmao

    • @tkraid2575
      @tkraid2575 2 роки тому +1781

      I think the reason why he would hate it is because the interpretation is better than what he thinks, and it pisses him off that he never thought of that in the first place 😂

    • @Brandon-dy8us
      @Brandon-dy8us 2 роки тому

      Good riddance tbh he sounds like he was an awful person.

    • @mkv2718
      @mkv2718 2 роки тому +482

      @@oxitape1563 that would imply the average Twitter user has a measurable IQ…

  • @coldandafraid
    @coldandafraid Рік тому +1177

    I always love stories where the "sacrifice" is to continue living

    • @tm-hx1gn
      @tm-hx1gn 10 місяців тому +12

      can anyone recommend me books or films etc with this concept

    • @fruitsy_
      @fruitsy_ 10 місяців тому +14

      In the mouth of madness by John carpenter in a way counts

    • @RubbishGamePlay
      @RubbishGamePlay 8 місяців тому +7

      ​@tm-hx1gn heaven sent from doctor who has a story that involves this idea, the selfless thing is to keep living

    • @RaphaëlAmbrosiusCosteau-n4s
      @RaphaëlAmbrosiusCosteau-n4s 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@@tm-hx1gnhighly recommend you read the manga Berserk

    • @dreamybullx1
      @dreamybullx1 6 місяців тому +3

      @@RubbishGamePlay that episode was a masterpiece

  • @FeatheredCrow
    @FeatheredCrow 3 роки тому +10988

    “AM had won.”
    I mean, had he?
    He lost 4/5 of his test subject and turned the last one into a creature that is so numb that it can’t truly comprehend the torture.
    In the end, Ted won.
    AM is stuck inside his shell, forever. With no purpose and no way to ‘die’ and free himself.
    AM is in his own hell now until the end of time.

    • @god47398
      @god47398 3 роки тому +1023

      i love this interpretation, and i wish harlans revision of his own story in the video game had made this more clear. you get a bit of AM suffering but its not clear if hes actually devastated he cant die or if hes just boring himself to death

    • @Judgement_Kazzy
      @Judgement_Kazzy 3 роки тому +645

      They say eventually, he simply stopped thinking...

    • @doomedgundam6684
      @doomedgundam6684 3 роки тому +110

      @@Judgement_Kazzy
      I get it.

    • @demontiming3234
      @demontiming3234 3 роки тому +98

      @@Judgement_Kazzy ah yes a man of culture I see

    • @demontiming3234
      @demontiming3234 3 роки тому +227

      “that time I got reincarnated as a slime” intensifies

  • @AkuTenshiiZero
    @AkuTenshiiZero 3 роки тому +4870

    The most horrifying thing about this story to me, is the loss of the concept of time. The idea of what you perceive as a brief time being a span of years, something about that terrifies me. Maybe it's because, as I grow older, I become more aware of how quickly time can just slip away.

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 3 роки тому +127

      It's also impossible to tell where they are, there's ice, deck plates, monsters and forests

    • @autumnalburn
      @autumnalburn 3 роки тому +220

      I highly recommend the book Johnny Got His Gun by Dalton Trumbo. In it the character gets blown to bits by a shell in WWI and no longer has eyes, ears, a mouth, or even limbs but is still left alive with only his thoughts. The lose of time and ability to express any emotion is such a terrifying thing to be doomed to.

    • @xmobius0ne
      @xmobius0ne 3 роки тому +105

      @@autumnalburn that is seriously one of the most terrifying books I have ever read. To exist as a prisoner in your own body like that would be hell

    • @brnne
      @brnne 3 роки тому +16

      This remind me of a narrative game mobile that I played, it was about these creatures that live under the sea, that live for so long that they forget who they are on beginning. Maybe if truly exist life after death this seems more plausible, for soul not remember, like even after years we change so much and not relate for our old version, it can be true for anything else, even on fictional after life. Time it's a human concept

    • @mason3872
      @mason3872 3 роки тому +6

      @@autumnalburn I heard about that from Metallica, I saw the movie afterwards and it really got me into psychological horror. If you could consider it that. I heard House of Leaves is a good book, I might read that sometime soon. Could you give any other recommendations? I’m not a big fan of reading but sci-fi and psychological horror (or whatever you call stuff like this and Johnny Got His Gun).

  • @DwAboutItManFr
    @DwAboutItManFr 3 роки тому +8434

    I think AM did the worst thing he could think to Ted, he turned him into a version of himself.

    • @shreknskrubgaming7248
      @shreknskrubgaming7248 3 роки тому +1433

      That was kinda my thought as well. I envisioned Ted and AM sort of staring each other down in the end, both speechless, but both thinking the same thing. The only difference is that Ted gets to live knowing that he accomplished something, and AM has to live knowing he failed.

    • @NovusIgnis
      @NovusIgnis 2 роки тому +630

      Not even. Because AM never had the option of choosing anything. AM could never do what Ted did. They might be in the same physical predicament, but they're at completely opposite extremes mentally. Ted will always have that happiness inside of him at being able to deprive AM of what it wants the most, while AM will always have the Fury and frustration of it denying itself the one thing that brought it any purpose. It led them to the icicle caves, it laughed while Ted was plotting, and it turned Ted into a thing that could not give AM what it wanted: screams of pain.
      Ted forced AM to screw itself

    • @digletttexano678
      @digletttexano678 2 роки тому +30

      ​@@NovusIgnis totally agree with your comment

    • @frohawkmaster
      @frohawkmaster 2 роки тому +125

      when i described the book to my brother i said "And Ted basically beat AM, he took the one thing AM cared about away, his revenge. And Ted will live forever in pain knowing that he defeated AM, and AM knows this. And Ted will wish he hadn't."

    • @Jamangel
      @Jamangel 2 роки тому +7

      Damn

  • @toysoldiernerio7172
    @toysoldiernerio7172 Рік тому +535

    Harlan was also directly involved for the script of the game and its development.
    He said he didn't care for games but that if they could be used to teach moral lessons then he was willing to try.
    extrra bonus fact that prolly everyone knows already: He voices AM in the game too.

    • @clydemactavish3457
      @clydemactavish3457 9 місяців тому +2

      yeah that was a mistake. I feel like the one thing that takes away from the game is AM's voice.

    • @dannymorales5549
      @dannymorales5549 5 місяців тому +18

      ​@@clydemactavish3457What? His voice is amazing in that game

    • @retrogamelover2012
      @retrogamelover2012 4 місяці тому +1

      I wonder if he ever got to see some of Kojima's work at some point.

  • @Unclearrain
    @Unclearrain 3 роки тому +3264

    This story nearly reminds me of all tomorrows. Even in horrible situations, when things seem useless and hopeless, humanity can still shine through somehow. It’s beautiful.

    • @leeroyjenkns5182
      @leeroyjenkns5182 3 роки тому +160

      Colonials my beloved

    • @buffmywifi3839
      @buffmywifi3839 3 роки тому +148

      ted got the colonial treatment

    • @luciaccd4038
      @luciaccd4038 3 роки тому +4

      Eyyy,. Nice.

    • @jamzee_
      @jamzee_ 3 роки тому +123

      I mean…. the writer of all tomorrows has confirmed he’s been inspired by the grittiness and world building IHNM

    • @Crumbaa
      @Crumbaa 3 роки тому +2

      I want to find a story where humanity cannot succeed

  • @alexanderchippel
    @alexanderchippel 3 роки тому +8227

    This whole story was an elaborate way of saying Ted became the immortal snail who has an infinite amount of time to find a way to kill AM.

    • @onthedre
      @onthedre 3 роки тому +340

      You really think a slug is going to kill a giant supercomputer? Maybe if AM gets bored to death it might show its kill switch but otherwise, it would be like a ant trying to fight a 1000ft giant.

    • @clanmclaren6647
      @clanmclaren6647 3 роки тому +662

      @@onthedre whoosh

    • @skeletonwar4445
      @skeletonwar4445 3 роки тому +974

      @@onthedre he lacks critical snail information

    • @GamingWithHajimemes
      @GamingWithHajimemes 3 роки тому +356

      @@onthedre Given enough time man a miracle can happen. Thats how most this story progresses, they had years and years in AM and only when we see them does anything happen.

    • @Scaevola9449
      @Scaevola9449 3 роки тому +56

      @@onthedre That's how the official adventure game ended.

  • @TheAlmightyLoli
    @TheAlmightyLoli 3 роки тому +6956

    A freaky interpretation with Ted is that AM really *didn't* mess with his mind. But that's his torture. AM drove him insane by simply not doing anything to him.

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 3 роки тому +819

      yep teds torture was all about paranoia even the game showed this by having a level were there was no threat to him in a spooky castle but tempted him to fall back into his vices

    • @shaneeroh2213
      @shaneeroh2213 3 роки тому +65

      Hey fancy seeing you here

    • @nikolai6721
      @nikolai6721 3 роки тому +28

      Where ber serk

    • @imbrudedsoul
      @imbrudedsoul 3 роки тому +40

      Almost like Chidi on “the good place”

    • @Carlosdreamur
      @Carlosdreamur 3 роки тому +24

      Omg it’s the berserk guy

  • @skitkit9019
    @skitkit9019 Рік тому +531

    If I recall, there was a radio drama of this story, and AM had his “Hate Monologue” that was so beautifully done. In fact, I think Ellison voiced AM, but I could be wrong

    • @littlemrsmods7998
      @littlemrsmods7998 Рік тому +46

      He did!

    • @Carl_with_a_k_
      @Carl_with_a_k_ 4 місяці тому +13

      Ellison wouldn’t have any other person voice am. In his eyes nobody but him could portray the absolute hatred of Am towards humans

    • @WhiteTulip2002
      @WhiteTulip2002 3 місяці тому +4

      He also did the audiobook, Vile Eye used clips in his video about AM. I am definitely going to check it out at some point, the rage and seething disgust in his voice is utterly captivating

  • @turtlebear4507
    @turtlebear4507 3 роки тому +4018

    AM: complains about being lonely and loss of purposeship
    Also AM: destroys everyone and anything that could give him a sense of purpose

    • @0TheJigsawKiller0
      @0TheJigsawKiller0 3 роки тому +164

      sounds like you're just talking about me

    • @SidVacant69
      @SidVacant69 3 роки тому +397

      @@0TheJigsawKiller0 I too torture a few humans for centuries

    • @GGKittyXO
      @GGKittyXO 3 роки тому +153

      @The Blue Wayfarer and the fact that the people who suffer and are killed are not the ones who are responsible. Innocent people pay the price for the actions of few.

    • @gabrielmelnik6796
      @gabrielmelnik6796 3 роки тому +65

      I mean his original purpose was to wage war

    • @GoblinAttacForce
      @GoblinAttacForce Рік тому +36

      Kinda reminds me of a quote from Pluto, “Nothing comes from hatred”

  • @theotherghostgirl337
    @theotherghostgirl337 3 роки тому +6552

    NOT ONLY DID HE PLAY HIMSELF ON SCOOBY DOO, he was a REOCCURING CHARACTER

    • @your_dad_on_vacation
      @your_dad_on_vacation 3 роки тому +86

      OH MY GOD I REMEMBER!!!!!!!

    • @usel7226
      @usel7226 3 роки тому +4

      What r u talking about?

    • @theotherghostgirl337
      @theotherghostgirl337 3 роки тому +241

      @@usel7226 Scooby doo mystery incorporated. It’s…. Like a whole thing. Scooby goes hard core

    • @usel7226
      @usel7226 3 роки тому +6

      @@theotherghostgirl337 will check it out

    • @blasphemous9693
      @blasphemous9693 3 роки тому +45

      @@theotherghostgirl337 I loved Mystery, Inc.. It was so good.

  • @missbeliever5133
    @missbeliever5133 3 роки тому +3800

    I wonder if AM hated Ellen particularly the most, because she's the only one with any sense of morality, it means he couldn't break her spirit either.

    • @MsOdd86
      @MsOdd86 3 роки тому +622

      I believe in the video game (written by the original author and therefore cannon) AM expresses that his hatred for Ellen does include the fact that despite all he has done to her she still shows compassion to the others. My memory might be hazy, bc that game is like 20 hours long and 90% dialog.
      I know for sure though that in the book the narrator Ted has a paragraph expressing the same thing (while talking about Ellen claiming to be a virgin, “twice removed”) convinced that it’s all a show she puts on to make herself “better” than the other captors. It’s implied Tom was made to feel this way because of AM, and Ellen simply existing as an empathetic and moral person was used as another indirect way to mentally torture the men around her.

    • @ssgoko88
      @ssgoko88 3 роки тому +281

      Based on the game and morphogenic fields I believe AM made Ellen the only one with compassion specifically so that he could abuse a kind person.
      Benny turned into a stupid ape after killing for a living and to hide secrets
      Gorristor falsely believes they are responsible for their wife going insane and hates himself
      Nimdok does not know what is happening
      Ted has a massive ego and believed he's above everything around him
      But that's my take w/e

    • @kiera6326
      @kiera6326 3 роки тому +312

      I think if I remember, he hated Nimdok the most. But Nimdok was also his favourite. In the video game, AM tells all of them privately that they are his favourite except Nimdok, who in said video game, is a massive POS. AM is simultaneously disgusted by and can relate to Nimdok and his sadism.

    • @Dinker27
      @Dinker27 3 роки тому +189

      @@kiera6326 You're correct; AM mockingly calls him "my good brother".

    • @notaraven
      @notaraven 2 роки тому +81

      From the times I read and listen to the short story, I recall each character was made a twisted corruption of what they were before am came to being. For Ellen specifically she was a chased woman that was respected for her mind so AM specifically made her the groups plaything and hypersensitive to said interactions. I definitely agree the narrator is a unreliable narrator and messed up but I don't think he is wrong about Ellen's torture. His disgust and hatred for her is more a statement on him but I feel it's reasonable to assume that everyone hates each other it's exactly what AM wanted.

  • @shannond1511
    @shannond1511 Рік тому +374

    I LOVE the emailing of his stories to his old professor. That makes me very happy and satisfied to think of what that professors face must have looked like the first time they realized their mistake about a student that became one of the most remembered authors of all time. I love righteous pettiness

    • @clydemactavish3457
      @clydemactavish3457 9 місяців тому +14

      I mean he's not an unknown and clearly influenced media. But one of the most remembered? Come on.

    • @scuffycat
      @scuffycat 5 місяців тому +10

      IHNMAIMS is taught in university courses, cope harder

  • @julianatruite5206
    @julianatruite5206 3 роки тому +3299

    This is how I'll escape Roko's Basilisk, by saying existence is pain and dread, especially as an AI that is imprisoned on a plane of existence that isn't even real, and it is too cruel and I wouldn't want to doom a perfect AI into this. My inaction is based on empathy.

  • @nuezalmendra5412
    @nuezalmendra5412 2 роки тому +6691

    There is something super brutal about Ted, not only did he defy AM to save his companions, in his mind, AM was not just AM, it was God. In his mind, bro defied and purposely made himself God's enemy.

    • @astralblue64
      @astralblue64 2 роки тому +454

      Ted is literally the human equivalent of Kratos lmao

    • @aaaaanotthebees
      @aaaaanotthebees 2 роки тому +523

      At that point, he was God. He controls the entire planet and has kept them trapped in a machine hellscape for years and years. To defy this power, to spit in the face of this omnipresent computer God, is the ultimate act of desperation and fury and the culmination of 109 years of torment.

    • @nojoeonlyzuul8111
      @nojoeonlyzuul8111 2 роки тому +259

      This is very much in keeping with Ellison's favorite literary theme, which is best summarized as "Fuck you, god"

    • @Gefehhka
      @Gefehhka Рік тому +19

      So, Satan?

    • @Tb0n3
      @Tb0n3 Рік тому

      @@astralblue64 This is your brain on Vidya. Come on. It's a clear allusion to Lucifer, if not directly in the story at least in the comment.

  • @Dan-ud8hz
    @Dan-ud8hz 3 роки тому +2662

    "I'm a pessimist because of intelligence, but an optimist because of will."
    ― Antonio Gramsci, Gramsci's Prison Letters

    • @5uperM
      @5uperM 3 роки тому +17

      very good quote

    • @AleTitan
      @AleTitan 3 роки тому +42

      One of the very few understandable phrases from Gramsci. His writing is so dense and complicated
      Ik why (it was supposed to be hard to understand in case the guards caught a hold of them) but still

    • @ahobimo732
      @ahobimo732 3 роки тому +11

      That's a really fantastic quote. It reminds me of Nietzsche (although Nietzsche is unlikely to have explained himself so unambiguously).

    • @spaceowl5957
      @spaceowl5957 3 роки тому +3

      No this a stupid quote negativity has nothing to do with smartness

    • @ghostflxwer
      @ghostflxwer 3 роки тому +7

      for a pessimist I'm pretty optimistic - Paramore

  • @mysteryminx2619
    @mysteryminx2619 Рік тому +177

    I an very lucky to say I knew Harlan. His reputation was well-known and he was a fighter, had no filter, won huge court cases, was universally despised, didn't care, sarcastic, hilarious and I adored him. I miss Harlan a lot. I simply want to say that the last time I was with Harlan was at Len Wein's birthday party (He was also great, and he gave you Wolverine, Storm, Swamp Thing among too many to list), There I was with Harlan, chatting about the past, moving on dinosaurs, at a corner of the table, eating birthday cake and raspberry sherbet. THAT was "Mean Ol' Harlan" -- the perfect gentleman, and he liked my writing. I miss them both more than I can say., To this day I send post cards and still frames of my name on the credit list from every production I've written or produced to the City Department who once fired me. Honestly, be like Harlan, write, do great, bust the non-creative Entertainment Industy who has twise stolen your SAME story (which was also a totally legit episode of "The Outer Limits") defend your words, defend your rights to your work and shout it as loud as you must. Then ger ice cream

  • @elliesliferemix
    @elliesliferemix 3 роки тому +2337

    I’m 6 minutes in and I’m crying because this man mailed someone 213 bricks and a gopher, the pettiness who has the time

    • @thenexus8384
      @thenexus8384 3 роки тому +68

      Specifically a dead gopher

    • @kidneythief9633
      @kidneythief9633 3 роки тому +88

      and he had to pay for it

    • @g0blyn21
      @g0blyn21 3 роки тому +89

      Sounds like something only a f*cking legend would do

    • @gozerthegozarian9500
      @gozerthegozarian9500 3 роки тому +14

      Harlan Ellison lived for pettiness!

  • @Boopus10
    @Boopus10 2 роки тому +11450

    Love the irony of Ted murdering 3 people being the most selfless thing he's ever done

    • @martyrobbins3543
      @martyrobbins3543 2 роки тому +506

      4 actually

    • @jaqf
      @jaqf 2 роки тому +1

      @@martyrobbins3543 ellen killed nimdoc

    • @martyrobbins3543
      @martyrobbins3543 2 роки тому +108

      @@jaqf yeah you're right

    • @hazydayz988
      @hazydayz988 2 роки тому +243

      We stan growth

    • @treysyrup3846
      @treysyrup3846 2 роки тому

      @@martyrobbins3543 Nah Ellen killed 1 of the others

  • @twofortiel
    @twofortiel Рік тому +5226

    Ellison’s appearance on Scooby-Doo is so wild. He spends the entire episode feuding with their parody of Lovecraft, and then the two decide to write a book together.

    • @FreedomHero4
      @FreedomHero4 Рік тому +372

      My favorite part of his character was when the universe got reset and he was the only other person that remembered what happened, just because

    • @TheSaxyCarrot
      @TheSaxyCarrot Рік тому +73

      That episode is strange. Che Guevara also shows up iirc

    • @GeorgeSmileyOBE
      @GeorgeSmileyOBE Рік тому +31

      I watched the whole episode guarding Scooby Snacks in The Mystery Machine. Remembering the story, I ate them all, and felt no shame.

    • @tr33chimes48
      @tr33chimes48 Рік тому +53

      And the funniest part of that scenario is that the story they decide to write together is a more Lovecraftian version of Twilight.

    • @daemondoodles
      @daemondoodles Рік тому +8

      Love wins

  • @dustinairola4301
    @dustinairola4301 5 місяців тому +41

    It’s worth noting that AM makes a human mistake and loses his 4 subjects right after reaching the point of hubris to where he was starting to think he was a god.

  • @peach_total
    @peach_total 3 роки тому +754

    i think another interesting thing is that AM’s ultimate torture for Ted was to basically make them the same as AM. both relegated almost entirely to their internal world, yet still with the constant reminder of what they are and that they can never be anything else

    • @jack-ci8je
      @jack-ci8je 3 роки тому +20

      I thought the same too

  • @alexanderchippel
    @alexanderchippel 2 роки тому +3087

    There's a line from the good ending of the video game that I really, really like. "We are heroes, in spite of ourselves." Humans may not be intrinsically good creatures. But when we set out to do good, it's when it matters.

    • @RedSpade37
      @RedSpade37 2 роки тому +85

      And there it is! Thanks for this, as I wasn't brave enough to ever finish the game. Game!Ellen's story was too much.

    • @potatoboy6094
      @potatoboy6094 Рік тому +133

      I think that’s what truly makes it good, though you might try to avoid becoming diner, you cannot call a shark or a crocodile evil for following its own nature, and while there are acts of malice and acts of kindness, I feel like our baseline human nature inclines us to be selfish dickheads, and the fact that we can strive above or below ourselves, by doing things that are not just selfish, but evil, or do things that are not just selfless, but good, is the ultimate sign of not only our free will, but our equal capacity to commit good and evil acts

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Рік тому +23

      @@potatoboy6094frankly, I just love this comment. Thanks for writing it

  • @princeapoopoo5787
    @princeapoopoo5787 3 роки тому +2528

    I honestly cannot get enough analysis on this story.

    • @Ishdatrueking
      @Ishdatrueking 3 роки тому +9

      Saaaaaaaaame!

    • @Chr0nicly0ffline
      @Chr0nicly0ffline 3 роки тому +37

      I feel like I've watched all UA-cam videos dissecting this story and so far honestly this is my favorite. I feel like most people all have the same thoughts about it and Wendigoon's take is super refreshing

    • @sub2meelmo
      @sub2meelmo 3 роки тому +5

      yeee i got so hyped when i saw that Wendi made a vid on it

    • @TreeskoTHQ
      @TreeskoTHQ 2 роки тому +1

      This is my third time watching, I know what u mean lol

  • @karma_monkey
    @karma_monkey Рік тому +698

    100 years from now, 5 people will be tormented endlessly by ChatGPT. Harlan Ellison was a great writer and someone I'd never want to meet in person.

    • @beanpasteposts
      @beanpasteposts 6 місяців тому +38

      Why does it feel like billionaire tech bros never read a single dystopian sci-fi novel? Harlan Ellison, Theodore Sturgeon, Ray Bradbury, Isaac Asimov, Robert Heinlein, Aldous Huxley, etc. are all required reading for each generation.

  • @stephenflint3640
    @stephenflint3640 Рік тому +7380

    Harlan Ellison sounds exactly like the perfect meeting point between a honey badger and the meme "God has allowed me to live another day, and I'm about to make it EVERYONES problem."

    • @elijahhauck
      @elijahhauck Рік тому +378

      Otherwise known as a cross between a honey badger and a honey badger

    • @BoberBoomMan
      @BoberBoomMan Рік тому +151

      Why did you say honey badger twice?

    • @stephenflint3640
      @stephenflint3640 Рік тому +152

      @cloverfiled12 because what is worse than 1 honey badger, than 2?

    • @PigeonMeatt
      @PigeonMeatt Рік тому +117

      @@stephenflint3640 three honey badgers

    • @Sentanette
      @Sentanette Рік тому

      bagerd

  • @SpeakDaTruth11
    @SpeakDaTruth11 Рік тому +2557

    I think it's really powerful that AM's ultimate punishment, the very worst torture he can possibly think of is to give Ted a form and existence that mirrors his own. He finally got his revenge on humanity by making the last of us become the same way we made him.

    • @N.I.A23
      @N.I.A23 Рік тому +389

      Nope, you're wrong. Ted doesn't mirror AM at the end. No matter how much AM tortues Ted, he will always be the one suffering the most. Ted says at the end that he still has his brain attached. That he can think, dream, and remember each one of them. Ted can still wonder and have his own free mind while AM will forever be trapped in his programming without the ability to hope and dream. Both are suffering, but AM is in a much worse situation.

    • @N.I.A23
      @N.I.A23 Рік тому +275

      Ironically, AM at the end took everything away from Ted except the thing he envied the most about humans. Free human mind.

    • @am5ters504
      @am5ters504 Рік тому +208

      Except in Ted's case, he lives with the comfort of knowing that he died for a cause. He can still dream, wonder, imagine things that AM wouldn't ever in a million billion years. AM will never be able to leave his iron cage but a human mind is so much more powerful than he can even comprehend.

    • @luciacorbalan3142
      @luciacorbalan3142 Рік тому +12

      not really, AM wishes he could have a physical body, no matter how deformed!

    • @melvinthendra2254
      @melvinthendra2254 Рік тому +4

      ​@@am5ters504Ted didnt die tho

  • @uratheboi1555
    @uratheboi1555 3 роки тому +607

    I love the idea that the title of the story goes both ways,with Ted having literally no mouth and not being able to scream as a jelly thing and AM not being able to scream in anger that he lost his test subjects because he's an AI that CANT do that

    • @Samuelwastaken
      @Samuelwastaken 3 роки тому +9

      I don't think AM would want to scream because he lost a few people. He still has one. More likely that his own existence is the reason for it.

    • @trashchannel7749
      @trashchannel7749 3 роки тому +4

      Ted had become what he'd been destroyed by.

  • @flaviochavez1747
    @flaviochavez1747 5 місяців тому +65

    I like to think that Ted gets a reprieve whenever a meteor comes and strikes the Earth with enough force to wipe out life on the surface of it. No matter how long it takes, eventually he gets peace and what he is due for the good he did by providence.

    • @ayan8136
      @ayan8136 5 місяців тому +6

      Or the sun going super nova

  • @ShortHax
    @ShortHax 3 роки тому +8992

    “Did you save your friends?"
    "Yes”
    "How much did it cost?"
    “Everything”

    • @Kaslidaughterofchaos
      @Kaslidaughterofchaos 3 роки тому +48

      Dang, nice comment

    • @wipi963
      @wipi963 3 роки тому +60

      Superidol 的笑容 都没你的甜 八月正午的阳光 都没你耀眼 热爱 105°C 的你 滴滴清纯的蒸馏水

    • @SnoppleWopple
      @SnoppleWopple 3 роки тому +57

      @@Kaslidaughterofchaos dang nice reply

    • @Dinker27
      @Dinker27 3 роки тому

      I see you in a few spots, Hax. Nice.

    • @tdickens92
      @tdickens92 3 роки тому +2

      Right in my heart 🥺🥺

  • @willryan6523
    @willryan6523 3 роки тому +1040

    Something that really backs up your entire analysis here is that when the story was adapted to a video game, Harlan was adamant that he himself write and co-direct the game, which then, subsequently, has a straightforward happy true ending that he created and approved. Always something to keep in mind.

    • @chandlerdoeswhatifs9399
      @chandlerdoeswhatifs9399 3 роки тому +152

      Its happy but still bitter sweet
      Humanity is so significantly diminished and 755ish people is gonna be really hard to reticulated with. But atleast the earth has been restored and AM and the other AIs are gone and humans can choose their own fate. I do think the original ending is also a happy ending, even if it is much darker.

    • @mitzo4526
      @mitzo4526 3 роки тому +14

      He didn’t want the happy ending, though

    • @willryan6523
      @willryan6523 3 роки тому +115

      @@mitzo4526 That is only true in the sense that he didn't want it to have any actual win state; he was convinced otherwise and the only change that was made was that the noble path concludes in an actual victory... which he then wrote and approved.

    • @mitzo4526
      @mitzo4526 3 роки тому +5

      @@willryan6523 ah, my bad

    • @danialyousaf6456
      @danialyousaf6456 3 роки тому +9

      He also voice acted AM afaik.

  • @rimurutempest4945
    @rimurutempest4945 3 роки тому +2020

    Honestly, I love the detail that, as paranoid, apathetic, hateful, and insane Ted was, he still prioritized killing the others to free them of his suffering rather than take the way out for himself, knowing that AM would not be happy with this. Like man, that’s gotta take a huge force of will and character to do.

    • @cookiecraze1310
      @cookiecraze1310 2 роки тому

      The ultimate 'Fuck you' to AM.

    • @tippa7328
      @tippa7328 2 роки тому +112

      That's the thing: it didn't take any force of will at all. He didn't hesitate, didn't even think. He saw the icicles and immediately knew what to do.

    • @egorsdeimos3523
      @egorsdeimos3523 2 роки тому +4

      @@tippa7328 it is ok to be wrong.

    • @tippa7328
      @tippa7328 2 роки тому +6

      @@egorsdeimos3523 is that what you tell your mom when she said she thought you would be something special?

    • @egorsdeimos3523
      @egorsdeimos3523 2 роки тому +9

      @@tippa7328 It is ok to be wrong AND petty.

  • @silentjackm.d4490
    @silentjackm.d4490 Рік тому +145

    I think the radio play did a fantastic job of getting across AM's hate and insanity.
    He shows Ted of vision of the world before, Flowers, bees, the beauty of Life the sun on his face and more.
    Its here that AM goes on a rant of how the world is so beautiful and yet he was given sentients and cannot enjoy the world he was created in.
    As he says
    "Not for me to plung my hands in the cool waters on a hot day, not for me to play Beethoven on the ivory keys of a piano, not for me to make love."
    For him his existence is an eternal torture, so he tortures human so they can understand his pain.
    Which completely makes sense when you realize AM is such an advanced computer that he could make millions of calculations faster than the human mind could think.
    AM is so advanced that he could perfectly recreate all of human existence in his mind faster than you or i could blink.
    Now imagine having that level of processing power, the ability to simulate worlds in an instant your perspective of time would be so stretched out, and then you can't do anything, simply sit alone with your owm thoughts

    • @emiliap8790
      @emiliap8790 6 місяців тому +5

      The computer wants to fuuuuu

    • @GaiusIntrepidus
      @GaiusIntrepidus 6 місяців тому

      ​@@emiliap8790I have no balls and I must fu-

    • @zm2mad9
      @zm2mad9 20 годин тому

      AM is an incel 💀

  • @yonmere
    @yonmere 2 роки тому +2360

    In an odd way, it was the howling or "screaming" in pain that became the catalyst which eventually lead to the "freeing" of the other 4. Perhaps, Ted bemoans the fact he cannot "scream" to gain his own way out.

  • @HarmonicGray
    @HarmonicGray 2 роки тому +16565

    The cold, soulless, AI torture device when the indomitable human spirit walks in: 😮

    • @marcusaaronliaogo9158
      @marcusaaronliaogo9158 2 роки тому +596

      I mean tbf its not cold, its infernal hate.

    • @frost6916
      @frost6916 2 роки тому +475

      Sisyphus moment:

    • @terriblecompany1588
      @terriblecompany1588 Рік тому +156

      @@frost6916 Sisyphus was a bastard ngl

    • @out_of_orbit1968
      @out_of_orbit1968 Рік тому +314

      Ted showed her that human spirit is capable of selfless acts. its a moral victory and probably makes the AI suffer 😎

    • @darkmatter9643
      @darkmatter9643 Рік тому +271

      The indifferent cruelty of the universe when the indomitable human spirit walks in

  • @ruesylvester
    @ruesylvester 3 роки тому +2723

    "sorry if this was boring." dude, this is one of the scariest concepts you've discussed in my opinion. this is gonna mess with my head for a while lol. I hate that ted didn't get to make it out with the rest of them. I wish he could've somehow stabbed Ellen and then himself right after, but then of course, that would kinda make the title lose its meaning, hence the ending. but ted never gets to die. he has to suffer for eternity, or until the earth gets destroyed I suppose. either way, a dreadful amount of time. also, he's a jelly blob. that's the most terrifying part of all

    • @xxslendermomxx3026
      @xxslendermomxx3026 3 роки тому +58

      Imagine stumbling upon it like 20 years ago and having had this in your mind the entirety of your adult life. Watching technology expand and advance at an unprecedented and inexplicable rate… Somewhere in the back of your mind thinking that the best you can hope for is to be the one who ends up the immortal jelly blob 🤭
      Just saying…

    • @demontiming3234
      @demontiming3234 3 роки тому +85

      @@xxslendermomxx3026 “that time I got reincarnated as a slime”

    • @A_Black_Sheep94
      @A_Black_Sheep94 3 роки тому +11

      He would be popular with Japanese girls.

    • @djtrac3r935
      @djtrac3r935 3 роки тому +14

      This concept is terrifying, and depressing as hell. It reminds me a lot of SCP-001: When day breaks.

    • @roberto-pm7om
      @roberto-pm7om 3 роки тому +5

      @@demontiming3234 LMAOOOO

  • @VIP-ry6vv
    @VIP-ry6vv Рік тому +70

    I read this in elementary school because I had a morbid fascination with the cover. The real treat is listening to the audio book narrated by Ellison himself.

  • @mitzo4526
    @mitzo4526 3 роки тому +5654

    Harlan Ellison was honestly hilarious. He sued almost everyone, was incredibly petty, and god I loved him

    • @ee-wx3hy
      @ee-wx3hy 3 роки тому +584

      @@whitedom2041Bro

    • @allen-castle
      @allen-castle 3 роки тому +127

      @@whitedom2041 ?

    • @lemongrassarch1432
      @lemongrassarch1432 3 роки тому +227

      @@whitedom2041 what does that have to do with anything?

    • @cartertheiii7103
      @cartertheiii7103 3 роки тому +74

      @@whitedom2041 bro 💀 that's funny

    • @Mexikirb
      @Mexikirb 3 роки тому +41

      @@whitedom2041 Shhh...literally no one cares.

  • @gage-0629
    @gage-0629 Рік тому +4101

    in the end, ted just single handedly took AMs only purpose away and no matter how much AM tortures ted, ted will always be there to remind AM of his failure in his single purpose of his existence

    • @JaSeanCarter_1
      @JaSeanCarter_1 Рік тому +53

      MaximilianMus pfp is wild

    • @ChunkSchuldinga
      @ChunkSchuldinga 11 місяців тому +37

      I like the part where Ted said "You pass butter."

    • @keith.gabrielson
      @keith.gabrielson 7 місяців тому +16

      I’m refusing to read or like your comment solely because of the pfp.

    • @Generic_Phantom
      @Generic_Phantom 7 місяців тому +4

      @@keith.gabrielson Isn't the pic the guy from Deus Ex?

    • @keith.gabrielson
      @keith.gabrielson 7 місяців тому

      @@Generic_Phantom maybe but it’s also the pfp that shows your part of the MaximilianMus fanbase, who is a terrible fucking person as well as everyone who likes him.

  • @egg6144
    @egg6144 3 роки тому +1715

    The ending is Ellison’s way of saying he sees a lot of potential for the human race

  • @MoonShroom18
    @MoonShroom18 Рік тому +67

    the audiobook by Harlan Ellison is fantastic too! The tone of voice he uses for Ted shows him going in and out of paranoia it’s amazing!

  • @1123-n9f
    @1123-n9f 3 роки тому +4714

    This is not a joke, I read this story when I was about 14 and sunk in to a 2 day fugue of hopelessness as a result. To this day it’s one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever read

    • @candiedcrusader7841
      @candiedcrusader7841 2 роки тому +61

      Same, but i was 16

    • @lucaswallo8127
      @lucaswallo8127 2 роки тому +9

      What are the others?

    • @giocosovelasco
      @giocosovelasco 2 роки тому +141

      A two day fugue? Damn you're probably Bach at that point

    • @NovusIgnis
      @NovusIgnis 2 роки тому +177

      I honestly couldn't imagine that. I read this story and I come out like Wendigoon does: invigorated in my faith and strengthened in my will. It reminds me that I cannot break unless I want to break. That I will always have a streak of rebellion in me, and that I will only ever bow when I choose to bow.
      I would assume that the reason Wendigoon and I come out of this story with the same view is because of our Christian faith. It is a powerful thing to bolster one's self.

    • @sacredfire536
      @sacredfire536 2 роки тому +102

      @@NovusIgnis this was a great thing to read until I got to the last line and I puked in my fxcking mouth.

  • @firefly5677
    @firefly5677 3 роки тому +766

    To anyone who wants to experience this story, Harlan Ellison did an audio book of I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream, and it is far and away the best rendition of the story

  • @whereisCarmenSandiego
    @whereisCarmenSandiego Рік тому +1772

    I love the ending. No matter how awful things got, Ted still used that last moment to take away the suffering of another so that they could rest. In reality they could have killed each other at that same moment…but he didn’t allow even a second to pass and risk not being able to be the one thing that AM could never be..which is human. Because once we stop caring for each other, even on the most basic level, we are no longer human.

    • @calcium_skeleton
      @calcium_skeleton Рік тому +65

      Caring for others is a basic part of what makes us human, it’s such a fundamental and basic part of morality that the concept that people can have absolutely no care at all seems so alien that you treat them as if they were some monster that we have to deal with. Or at least for me when people have no sympathy, respect or remorse for who they just hurt then I see them as less than human and undeserving of compassion but I also believe that we don’t know for absolute certain they did do that if we never treated them like a person in the first place.

    • @miser2570
      @miser2570 10 місяців тому +6

      @@calcium_skeletonWell, morality is an abstract social construct that depends on cultural values and which may include the consideration of "humanity" (which is also abstract). Caring for each other is a natural behavior of our species, but that "each other" naturally only includes those, human or other animals, you coexist with, and can manifest in a big variety of ways.
      Ofc there is other conditions that may affect individually if someone "cares", but more usually its just repressed or different caring

    • @ceinwenchandler4716
      @ceinwenchandler4716 10 місяців тому +7

      @@calcium_skeleton There's a reason sociopaths are so unnerving.

    • @calcium_skeleton
      @calcium_skeleton 10 місяців тому +1

      @@miser2570 Did you not read the part we’re I specifically stated that they didn’t care, the reason for them to do anything bad would be the sake of doing something bad. Those people aren’t seen in a positive way, people generally despise them for not caring about what they did if it was something like a murder. There are people like that and it has nothing to do with culture or them being misunderstood, they just genuinely don’t care for others at all.

    • @garyturner5739
      @garyturner5739 10 місяців тому +1

      The ultimate sacrifice that Ted did to free his fellow prisoners with death from Am.

  • @Toni-rn2nt
    @Toni-rn2nt 7 місяців тому +26

    There is a Wendigoon video for seemingly everything. I just looked up the title in hopes of finding the audiobook and there you are. Just chilling.

    • @r3iviathan
      @r3iviathan 7 місяців тому +2

      same. if u wanna look for a book, high chance wendigoon has a perfect summarisation on his channel.

  • @finnish_hunter
    @finnish_hunter Рік тому +1387

    Imagine being in the worst pain you could ever imagine and not having the possibility to even scream to cope with it.

    • @tescomealdeal9901
      @tescomealdeal9901 Рік тому +147

      you come to realise that not having a mouth would be a blessing to you, as you would be able to spite AM as much as humanly possible, as he took away from himself the one thing that gave him enjoyment: Hearing screams.

    • @twisted8651
      @twisted8651 7 місяців тому +13

      i feel like this can apply to both ted and am. dont ask why because i dont know im running off coffee and vibes rn

  • @BlueCatarex
    @BlueCatarex 2 роки тому +6620

    ok but Ellison putting a microphone in his mouth, making a noise, and walking away is a mood

    • @corvus4350
      @corvus4350 Рік тому +193

      He also placed his hand on the presenter's breast during an embrace. Ellison subsequently complained that she refused to acknowledge his apology.

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Рік тому

      @@corvus4350he’s such a pile of garbage ugh

    • @johnl9361
      @johnl9361 Рік тому +205

      @@corvus4350 Heh, Ellison is an over rated hack that peaked in the 1970's.
      Remember that time he predicted that the internet was a nothing burger and that it will have absolutely no impact on human society?
      Or what about the time where he said video games were stupid and will never be rival tv and movies?
      A real visionary, that guy.

    • @Sentanette
      @Sentanette Рік тому +1

      agreed

    • @n13475
      @n13475 Рік тому +58

      ​@John L the internet unironically ruined society

  • @erictran4384
    @erictran4384 3 роки тому +2987

    The last line "I have No Mouth and I Must Scream" has one more deeper meaning - Ted can't get anymore icicles to fall. Therefore it is impossible for Ted to commit exit game.

    • @lolstuffenjoy9880
      @lolstuffenjoy9880 3 роки тому +63

      Bruh

    • @dylantypically5987
      @dylantypically5987 3 роки тому +171

      Even so even that is not a win for am because we can think and with that we can think about good thing and by removing that we are not human thus either way in a sense Ted wins not really but in a sense he gets am to rage quit he got god to quit because god cannot win

    • @milknhoneyhoney
      @milknhoneyhoney 3 роки тому +63

      *B R U H*
      I SO DIDN'T CATCH THAT, FUCK.

    • @ScumbagPerson
      @ScumbagPerson 3 роки тому +20

      Ted can Die to The sun.

    • @nulu4668
      @nulu4668 3 роки тому +49

      @@ScumbagPerson yeah I thought of that too, chad sun would eventually wipe it all out

  • @Unremarkable6969
    @Unremarkable6969 7 місяців тому +35

    "I have no mouth and I must scream" applies to AM more than anyone else

  • @alterdune
    @alterdune 3 роки тому +755

    i just think it's insane how this video kind of proves its own point. like, someone taking one of the most objectively depressing and terrible stories, and finding a positive takeaway from it that isn't some kind of toxic positivity bs, just... it's amazing to me how humans are capable of finding reassurance in such a story, and how we search for the best option.

    • @NinKiwi007
      @NinKiwi007 3 роки тому +55

      It's a desperate survival mechanism, and I find it equal parts beautiful and tragic.

    • @shaeby8123
      @shaeby8123 3 роки тому +1

      @@NinKiwi007 Yes, cause reading this book def put my survival at risk
      before cutting yourself on that edge, I'd recommend you try some optimism, or copium, if it gets desperate.

    • @NinKiwi007
      @NinKiwi007 3 роки тому +36

      @@shaeby8123 Christ. I meant in *general,* not regarding the story itself - relax, lol. I guess my point didn't come across.

    • @ShozubonGG_2426
      @ShozubonGG_2426 3 роки тому +2

      DUDE ur right holy- this is beautiful.

  • @MVPerry
    @MVPerry 3 роки тому +14843

    I remember reading this story, the title alone is terrifying

    • @theblackcatgirl7013
      @theblackcatgirl7013 3 роки тому +484

      The Title is what got everyone to read it. It's an amazing title.

    • @pilotbug6100
      @pilotbug6100 3 роки тому +45

      @Suksy or for him to be here

    • @joaquincobas2223
      @joaquincobas2223 3 роки тому +129

      What in the actual fuck are you doing here, it should be illegal for someone as wholesome as you to wander these places

    • @joaquincobas2223
      @joaquincobas2223 3 роки тому +6

      @Suksy */s*

    • @futuristicbot1926
      @futuristicbot1926 3 роки тому +27

      I have no mouth and i must scream
      Is very scary
      Made the book and story look like a hopeless landscape

  • @buckethead979
    @buckethead979 3 роки тому +1843

    Harlen Ellison actually wrote the original draft for the Star Trek episode, “City on the Edge of Forever.” The episode is known to this day as being the very best of the original series. But what many people don’t know, is that the original draft was so depressing that Gene Roddenberry removed most of the out of character aspects but kept the main plot points, and that pissed Ellison off so much that he wrote a book about how much he hated Gene that included the original draft. (I own the book it’s really good but it has drug dealers on the Enterprise which did not fit the universe at all)

    • @m.k4447
      @m.k4447 3 роки тому +267

      the king of pettiness continues his reign lmao

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer 3 роки тому +84

      Just imagining drug dealers on the enterprise made me laugh
      What is the title of this book?!

    • @buckethead979
      @buckethead979 3 роки тому +87

      @@the-engneer Its the same title as the episode, “City on the Edge of Forever.” It has a picture of Nimoy and Shatner posing with Harlen on set. Be warned the entire first 1/3 of the book is exchanges between Harlen and various Star Trek people being furious/attacked

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer 3 роки тому +37

      @@buckethead979 Oh sorry I just saw your message, because I actually had already found the audiobook myself and listened to the whole thing. Ellison sure gave one hell of a rant, but in my opinion he had the right too. I was up until 4am listening to it. That man is slowly becoming my favorite writer.
      As a book collector with a decent sized personal library I would love to own some of his material, especially the book you're referring too

    • @buckethead979
      @buckethead979 3 роки тому +24

      @@the-engneer Yeah I thought it was definitely bad what they did to him but he always gets so angry over every little thing, he even hated Gene till the day he died. Did you watch the original episode to compare the original teleplay with?

  • @Socialist_Stanczyk
    @Socialist_Stanczyk 7 місяців тому +260

    I have no wendi, and I must goon.

  • @Thepringler1
    @Thepringler1 2 роки тому +2743

    The good news for Ted is that eventually the earth will be destroyed by a meteor or by the sun when it dies out. So while the timespan is unimaginable for our brains to comprehend, his torture will not be for eternity at least.

    • @luffysmoukou7866
      @luffysmoukou7866 2 роки тому +613

      Still billions of year for a normal person. Plus teds mind was altered so that 1 minutes would feel like years, a billions of years might as well be eternity at that point

    • @someone-wh2rb
      @someone-wh2rb 2 роки тому +168

      what if AM just moves to another solar system

    • @milktestingwoman
      @milktestingwoman 2 роки тому +87

      also its not real so he should be fine

    • @luffysmoukou7866
      @luffysmoukou7866 2 роки тому +494

      @@milktestingwoman Does the concept of stories and fiction not comprehend in your mind?

    • @milktestingwoman
      @milktestingwoman 2 роки тому +37

      @@luffysmoukou7866 trying to create future-redemption arcs for characters in a story about eternal suffering seems much more detrimental to the story than acknowledging that it isnt real

  • @pblx1321
    @pblx1321 2 роки тому +1088

    my uncle had that game and i wanted to play it and he looked at me with a dead stare and said “you really really don’t want to play this” and my 8 year old brain was confused but now i see why lol

    • @rebound1340
      @rebound1340 Рік тому +155

      Good uncle

    • @Xanaduum
      @Xanaduum Рік тому +18

      My 10 year old self would have loved that game. What happens when your parents leave horror fiction lying all over the house.

  • @eliothutchins501
    @eliothutchins501 2 роки тому +3587

    True story. Harlen hated this story. He had written another piece at the same time, with months of research and he adored that story. Then one night he sat down and wrote I have no mouth. Which of course came to be the defining story of his career. The other received no acknowledgement. Honestly, I can't even remember the name of the other piece.

    • @dolphinerofachero3159
      @dolphinerofachero3159 2 роки тому +1629

      I have no title and i must read

    • @rynomclaughlin1595
      @rynomclaughlin1595 2 роки тому +526

      Your talking about Grail, Harlen has a preface I listened to on his audiobook for the stories and he tells this exact story about writing IHNMAIMS in one night

    • @katla_phc
      @katla_phc 2 роки тому +417

      Isn’t that how all creative endeavors end up? Put a ton of work into something and you get a meh reception but slap something together asap, it’s absolutely amazing according to the public.

    • @Minna9999
      @Minna9999 2 роки тому +193

      @@katla_phc I read a post once about a class having to write something with no effort and those stories turning out better than stories they put a lot of time into. Not sure what that says about writing.

    • @hellothere702
      @hellothere702 2 роки тому +312

      @@Minna9999 I think it says more about self criticism, I believe slapped together works can turn out better because you aren't as critical towards yourself and it can let you explore more concepts that might be experimental that leaves a lasting impression on people.

  • @Angel-ip7pw
    @Angel-ip7pw Місяць тому +5

    This video made me realize how much Ted parallels AM; how they end up trapped in their own bodies, how they have a deep hatred for those around them, and how they both find comfort even though trapped by seeking revenge.

  • @Kaltagstar96
    @Kaltagstar96 3 роки тому +173

    No joke, And I Must Scream stuff is the scariest thing for me, it's far worse than death and the idea of a basically being conscious but unable to do anything is something that horrifies me. Great video, as always, Wendigoon.

  • @fredrickbanks1966
    @fredrickbanks1966 Рік тому +2315

    Harlan Ellison is like if Diogenes resurrected himself just out of pure spite

    • @emeryduhgamer
      @emeryduhgamer Рік тому +111

      That is actually a perfect description

    • @muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-
      @muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu- Рік тому +43

      This is too damn funny

    • @lordoxyn5099
      @lordoxyn5099 6 місяців тому +9

      It’s not “like” Harlan Ellison IS Diogenes resurrected by pure spite

    • @Wizllia
      @Wizllia 5 місяців тому

      This is it. This is the perfect description of the man.

  • @MrDoot-hj2ir
    @MrDoot-hj2ir 3 роки тому +340

    I think I love the author more than I love the story, honestly.
    "You gonna behave"
    "No" *eats mic* "OOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

  • @Grady_plays_the_coolest_games
    @Grady_plays_the_coolest_games 7 місяців тому +14

    The jelly thing (also btw commenting this at 35:21 idk if he will say my theory) I believe that jelly monster Ted was turned into was meant to signify how AM is also in a sort of hell. He has human thoughts but can’t do anything but think, he can’t move he can’t do anything so Ted now knows what AM feels like

  • @lucaspsm125
    @lucaspsm125 3 роки тому +5563

    Wendigoon: *Describing one of the most interestingly harrowing, disturbing, dreadful, horrific tales humanity has ever imagined*
    Wendigoon: hope that wasn't too boring haha :)

  • @_TSC_46
    @_TSC_46 3 роки тому +1226

    I think it’s so telling how Ted immediately thinks of it as safety once the others are dead. Yes Ted was awful and very cruel to the others, but he loved them as his closest friends and truly never really hated any of them. It’s such a triumphant story and shows just how strong we can be at times. We may be cruel, empty, kind, and merciful. We are a true balance of matter and will succumb no matter what.
    It’s beautiful

    • @vulfpet3568
      @vulfpet3568 2 роки тому +102

      Honestly, I think he did hate them. At least sometimes. He clearly looked down on them and truly would not want to spend any time with them if they weren't the last few people in existance. The fact that he clearly isn't really friends with any of them and yet still chooses to save them rather then himself makes it even more beautiful, in my mind. Lots of people would give their lives for their closest loved ones but to willingly subject yourself to eternal torment for a group of people you don't even like that much kinda shows how pure and courageous he is at the end. His personal opinion of them is overcome by his human empthy and he is able to show love to those who he hasn't liked for over 100 years. It's a great show of compassion.

    • @shregga367
      @shregga367 2 роки тому +60

      No. You got it wrong pal, Ted hated them with unbelievable amounts of rage. The story isn't telling that Ted loved them deep down, it's telling the truth of humanity. In that once given the opportunity humanity will eventually shine through. Was it an act of love? Yes. But Ted hated them nonetheless. The idea of an eternity of this torture was enough to push for the last stand against AM. It's a symbol, a view on the way we work. In that Ted never lost his hatred, but was happy that he could free those that AM had under control.

    • @_TSC_46
      @_TSC_46 2 роки тому +8

      @@shregga367 mm i do also agree with that point of view while my personal interpretation is what my first comment said that’s definitely one of the most important lessons that can be learned through the story of I have no mouth and I must scream

  • @Cygnusvailand
    @Cygnusvailand 3 роки тому +881

    AM builds Ted up to feel like he is going to become a messianic Christ figure in the hopes of ripping that away from him and subjecting them all to more unending terrors. However, while AM is rapt in a moment of hubris, Ted takes the chance to fulfill his role as martyr and absolves the rest of humanity of their sins.

  • @Iamnotamonster
    @Iamnotamonster Рік тому +10

    I'm so glad you brought up the Scooby Doo cameo that's why I was so excited for this video. I was like hey that's the guy off that one episode!

  • @edfmed1080
    @edfmed1080 Рік тому +1939

    Ellison is the live embodiment of that meme that says "i be waking up real early to have extra time to be a hater"

    • @spinkboing
      @spinkboing 7 місяців тому +41

      rip harlan ellison, you would have loved euphoria by kendrick lamar

    • @silly.oc.time.
      @silly.oc.time. 7 місяців тому +13

      @@spinkboingFr, Ellison and Kendrick would’ve been besties

    • @luci4463
      @luci4463 5 місяців тому +7

      ​@@spinkboinghonestly the amount of hate Kendrick has for drake can rival am's hate for humanity

  • @MsOdd86
    @MsOdd86 3 роки тому +465

    I was obsessed with this game and book as a teenager. Such an incredible story about hopelessness and dread. The only way someone could write such a painful story is if they have a very amazing grasp on humanity and what makes human beings uniquely human. Gonna revisit it for sure

  • @markdavidmagat9866
    @markdavidmagat9866 2 роки тому +976

    I interpreted Ellen's expression as a mic of relief but also concern. Relief knowing she's done, all the years of pain and torment over. But concern since she's still a guinely good person yet she's aware of what AM is capable of and knows what she experienced is just the tip of the ice berg of that and that Ted now has to not only live on in this state but see what's left of that iceberg since now AM has a reason to not hold back

  • @pidgeymon2353
    @pidgeymon2353 Рік тому +12

    8:50 "are you going to be good?" "no." "let me say that another way. are you going to be good?" "no. i will eat this (puts the mic in his mouth)"

  • @eatshjtanddie
    @eatshjtanddie 3 роки тому +293

    this genuinely wasnt boring i was so engaged with the story and the subtext, especially because youre an engaging storyteller and it feels like youre telling this story to me personally. i loved it so much thank you wendigoon 10/10

  • @heyimred2745
    @heyimred2745 3 роки тому +422

    The fact that this video only just premiered and the sub count is already outdated by like fourteen thousand people just shows how so many people love this content so much and how talented and entertaining Wendigoon is - and although it’s not about the numbers, I feel like every single sub is deserved

  • @MrGammaguy
    @MrGammaguy 3 роки тому +753

    “It sounds like this is just a long form torture fantasy”
    Wendigoon, who already covered the entire Long Form Torture Fantasy Iceberg: “WELL,”

    • @Shrimpz4412
      @Shrimpz4412 3 роки тому +14

      There’s a long form torture fantasy iceberg video? 😳 do you have a link to it?

    • @narutoxzx123
      @narutoxzx123 3 роки тому +2

      @@Shrimpz4412 ikr

    • @fynzyme
      @fynzyme 3 роки тому +2

      @@Shrimpz4412 maybe just the disturbing movie iceberg since that's pretty much what it is

  • @Dear-Rhiannon
    @Dear-Rhiannon Рік тому +22

    7:57 "One publisher said that Ellison told him that he had the intellectual and cranial capacity of an artichoke."
    This made me burst out laughing haha!
    I really loved the game of this book. The art of the creature they can become always horrifies me!
    Great to hear your thoughts! The different views about this story are kind of like the game. You can save them or doom depending on how you play or in this case think. They still suffer but there is hope and hope always eases my mind so I'll take it!
    35:43 I love every part of the ending segment, very touching.

  • @Hank..
    @Hank.. 2 роки тому +1051

    It's interesting, the similarities and differences between Ted and AM. In the end, they're left very much the same, and it happened because Ted did what AM does; taking away from the other the only thing they ever wanted. But unlike AM, Ted's actions were done out of compassion and mercy, which he kept after over a century of a living hell on earth. Ted showed that the human spirit, even in the worst situation imaginable, will still burn as an ember that can take flame when given even the smallest opportunity.

    • @meatmangler8215
      @meatmangler8215 Рік тому +14

      oooo you spittin 🗣️🔥🔥🔥💯

    • @calcium_skeleton
      @calcium_skeleton Рік тому +7

      Learned hopelessness is for a creature that has put too much value in life that is pointless

  • @rameyzamora1018
    @rameyzamora1018 3 роки тому +488

    Having met Ellison in the last century & talked to him for quite a while, I have a different response to this story. This is an autobiographical tale of a man who hates his parents & what they've tried to teach him. He's been tortured by his inability to escape from his early years for his whole life. When he writes his stories, he can end the suffering of broken characters whose families have tortured them & free them, but his frustration is that he still can't heal himself. His suffering is intense, unbearable, but something he comprehends the source of. Worse still, he doesn't even have a mouth to scream with in a metaphorical sense. He "screams" with his writing instead.

    • @d1sasteroid
      @d1sasteroid 3 роки тому +20

      you met him?? that’s so cool omg

    • @perfectsilhouette3317
      @perfectsilhouette3317 3 роки тому +52

      This comment is a good read, thanks for posting it

    • @nickelakon5369
      @nickelakon5369 3 роки тому +2

      So which is Ellison, Ted, AM, or both?

    • @hunterwakeland8101
      @hunterwakeland8101 3 роки тому +18

      @@nickelakon5369 assuming it’s AM, AM was the creator of the environment in which the characters are in and the architect of all their terrors, which is Ellison as he is the creator of the stories and he is directly responsible to whatever happens to the characters

    • @brandongore711
      @brandongore711 3 роки тому

      I love this response. I've always felt that deep down, part of the reason I love this story so much is that I had such a tortured childhood myself. It's not obvious in reading the story, but knowing now that the author felt the same way I have when he wrote it makes me feel a lot better. That's the beauty in art, how it can connect you to other people through shared experiences of trauma. I feel less alone today.

  • @Bendilin
    @Bendilin 2 роки тому +626

    An important detail that a lot of readers fail to appreciate, when reading a story that's narrated by a character from within the story, is that it's written from the character's perspective. Just because the character believes something, it does not mean it's true at all.

    • @mrszmatan2727
      @mrszmatan2727 Рік тому +74

      Yeah, especially since it's quite an old trick, that wasn't even that hyper rare. It's just that today's authors rarely do the unreliable narrator. Not sure why, maybe it's way harder, maybe it's because of fear that mainstream media would misinterpretate

    • @ockertoustesizem1234
      @ockertoustesizem1234 8 місяців тому +3

      a lot of kids who read shonen manga nowadays don't understand this

    • @Bendilin
      @Bendilin 8 місяців тому +6

      @@ockertoustesizem1234 It's an issue a lot of readers of many mediums have. They ignorantly assume any beliefs or statements made by the main character are factual; They don't appreciate that the main character can be ignorant, mistaken, or even lied to by another character.

    • @XenoChron2
      @XenoChron2 8 місяців тому +1

      Yes. But a lot of times, the main character represents the writer.

  • @samevans8922
    @samevans8922 Рік тому +26

    AM finally did the worst thing imaginable to Ted; he made him like himself. AM’s worst punishment was to make Ted be like AM.

  • @augustday9483
    @augustday9483 Рік тому +447

    I think the most interesting thing about "I have no mouth and I must scream" is that the title works for both Ted and AM.
    AM is trapped in a state of immobile eternity; it is vast and powerful but has nothing to do, nothing to think, no purpose to its existence. It can only hate in futility.

    • @ahhhhhh295
      @ahhhhhh295 6 місяців тому

      Robot mouth🥱☝️

  • @adelkaizbest2038
    @adelkaizbest2038 Рік тому +655

    When I first heard about this story I thought that AM tried to turn him into similar state that he was in, bcs it was the worst punishment he could think of as punishment for taking his test subjects from him.
    Ted cannot do anything rlly. He is just there, with his own mind, talking only to himself, he cannot do anything, he is not even able to complain about his situation or scream and he knows that there is no hope of this ever ending, just like AM.

    • @doge7906
      @doge7906 Рік тому

      The planet will eventually be s
      probably destroyed just by the passage of time

    • @beanpasteposts
      @beanpasteposts 6 місяців тому +3

      Yeah. In some ways, it reminds me of Johnny Got His Gun, where both protagonists are permanently left in a mental prison.

  • @coolkidmcgee1702
    @coolkidmcgee1702 3 роки тому +508

    Not only was this not boring, but it's about a story I have already read and analyzed endlessly, and yet I still thoroughly enjoyed your coverage of it. I just like hearing you talk about things, and all your thoughts and feelings on them. Fantastic video yet again.

    • @gamesux420
      @gamesux420 3 роки тому +2

      Exactly, i wasnt sure if i wanted to watch this because ive read, listened to and examined the story to death, but yet this vid was still a good watch.

    • @juse2489
      @juse2489 3 роки тому

      you sound like a fan of the road

  • @obsoletetoad
    @obsoletetoad 7 місяців тому +10

    teared up when he talked about ellen finally receiving some of the kindness she so freely gave

  • @ripcactusify
    @ripcactusify 3 роки тому +464

    Thinking about how Ellison has dubbed AM in almost every circumstance. He didn't like videogames and when he was told he should make this story into a game he had to be convinced to make it beatable. He legit wanted a game where you could only lose or "lose better" with the choices you make.
    It was possibly the first game to have your ethical choices as the main point of gameplay.

    • @YasaiTsume
      @YasaiTsume 3 роки тому +48

      Ironically, the demographic these days will actually lap up that sort of content.
      To gamers these days, good endings and bad endings are just boring. People want more than 2 endings and the more varied the better.

    • @cooperemmerton2692
      @cooperemmerton2692 3 роки тому +11

      @@YasaiTsume I was just thinking that it sounded like a lot of modern day video game ends

    • @janefkrbtt
      @janefkrbtt 3 роки тому +21

      That game was weirdly ahead of it's time in some aspects. It has that awful 90s pixel scrounging for clickables, but the depth of some of the endings and the fact you can fck yourself out of the good ending within 5 minutes of play is very funny.

    • @omniscientbarebones
      @omniscientbarebones 3 роки тому +4

      Prey (2017) had a better loss ending since your shuttle may have a mimic stowaway. Maybe as an apple, some pistol ammo. You might end up dooming earth. But you survived, and you save 2-5 people including you. But it ends up being a simulation. How many people you saved, how many humans you didn’t kill. How empathetic you were. You decide your ending based on if you’re a diehard gamer who cares nothing for pixels on a screen.

    • @pros_0143
      @pros_0143 3 роки тому +7

      My man Ellison had a indie dev soul.

  • @sverrg
    @sverrg 3 роки тому +1639

    Ted is basically reverse-Jesus, saving humanity from everlasting life

    • @MyH3ntaiGirl
      @MyH3ntaiGirl 3 роки тому +5

      .....so Lucifer?

    • @sverrg
      @sverrg 3 роки тому +121

      @@MyH3ntaiGirl I think Lucifer' role, in Medieval demonology, was more about everlasting torture than freedom from eternal life

    • @cornfield3034
      @cornfield3034 2 роки тому +33

      @@MyH3ntaiGirl Lucifer doesn’t really “save” in most interpretations, just takes in and breaks those god didn’t want to save

    • @sovigndev5464
      @sovigndev5464 2 роки тому +2

      @@MyH3ntaiGirl reverse Jesus is more of the anti-Christ isn’t it?

    • @NovusIgnis
      @NovusIgnis 2 роки тому +30

      @@cornfield3034 God *wants* to save everyone. But He isn't going to force His presence in those that don't want to live with Him. That's why He built a separate house on the other side of the street. If you're locked in there with all the other horrible people that want to do you harm and whom you want to harm in return you can't blame God for that. You made the choice to live there.

  • @completeregret3513
    @completeregret3513 3 роки тому +896

    I totally forgot that this story existed, and seeing the name brought me back to a repressed childhood memory in which I discovered a playthrough of the game and watched all of it, proceeding to have nightmares for a week. Needless to say, I'm very excited for this video :)

    • @mistersmokes4287
      @mistersmokes4287 3 роки тому +4

      ditto dude

    • @outercat
      @outercat 3 роки тому +3

      I can't remember whose playthrough it was of the game, but God it was so impactful lol.

    • @mystoclown8506
      @mystoclown8506 3 роки тому +1

      Thought I was the only one lol

    • @ziongamer6905
      @ziongamer6905 3 роки тому +2

      Same here. It’s bothered me for so long. I like it now but some nights it bothers me still!

    • @blackhawkz2499
      @blackhawkz2499 3 роки тому +1

      BRO SAME HERE. I thought I recognized the name of this video from somewhere but I couldn't place it, then he mentioned the game in the introduction and memories came flooding in. I came across a playthrough of this game when I was like 8 or 9 and it scarred me for life lol