The Darkest Story I've Ever Read
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Funny, this video can serve as a good reminder: sometimes the best form of horror isn't a scary monster, a spooky ghost, or a unknowable alien force, but rather the best horror is the reminder of just how dark reality really is, and how tragic life can be due to the actions or inactions of a single individual.
The Father is a terrifying and heartbreaking film about dementia. Great horror movie even though I don’t think that’s it’s purpose
@@AsymmetricalAce Anything by John Carpenter. Maybe the song piece, "Everywhere at The End of Time."
That's why I write the way I do for my AI Dungeon Adventure, Besatheus is the name of the place (No I didn't come up with it I just populate that world with my characters and events reflecting our own world.) It's at the end of time itself, it has seen many places rise and fall. One war to end another to make another king to take the place of another mad lunatic. It is peace time, but that is at the cost of tribalism in the far wastelands and desolate deserts, vast sprawling cities of technological advancement and magical wonder on the other hemisphere. A Dragon lady walks into a bar, bar keep says they do not sell to her kind. Counteroffer buys entire bar with precious gems valuable "Dragon's Hoard Gold" quote unquote. Fires everyone on the spot and all employees more than like kill each and every last one of them, dissolves business formally and burns the place to the ground in a blazing glory laugh and piss on the ashes smoking an e-Cig they stole off of a very much super dead Cyber Solider somewhere else. OR alternatively force their business at the cost of the Legion now controlling the property and they have to hope they do not alter the deal any further even though they know the Legion can and absolutely will when most inconvenient. Almost planned in a way from the very beginning. Perhaps she will just slay the bartender by driving her "Great Broad Sword", through the bar itself and into them. Sitting next to her siege weapon, taps the bar twice. Having a drink in her hand, she then goes on to get hammurd. Dragons drink a lot. Like I mean an unfathomable amount; her favorite brew is her own house's (That of her name. House Brimstone.) Dwarven Dragon's Breath. It isn't really made by Dwarves her house makes that shit special like; it's just called that. She drinks that concoction from her water skin all day all the time. THAT all of that is just SOME examples of what can happen in ANY given reality at any time. No matter what time period you live in, no matter the advances in science or what perusal of what for "The Greater" for and of humanity. It's all for not though. That is what I was going for, it can be funni haha one minute and the next a dragon woman walks in and gets denied business then people fucking die for no raisons. Perhaps a virus in a lab. Or maybe someone else's war. Nothing changes, it's all insanity and it makes no sense they just keep mindlessly droning on and on and for what? I see. Only monsters.
Nail. Hit. On. It's. Head.
“Hell is other people”
When I received the book, I wanted to savor its contents, so I read even the translator's notes. I will never forget that line "In a superb epilogue the only witness testifies, "He was an angel", and we are suddenly made to realize the incompleteness of Yozo's portrait of himself. In the way most men fail to see their own cruelty, Yozo had not noticed his gentleness and his capacity for love"
Dazai himself wrote that epilogue in what I assume to be trying to show how Yozo completely "fooled" the people around him into thinking he is kind, but for the translator of the book to see it as proof of how kind Yozo could be without him knowing........man
that is a pretty amazing observation from a translator
Yawn. Awful. Think I'm going to pick the fluff from my navel.
@@TheLoxxxton in all honestly who asked fr? Bro just wanna be part of the team
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Wendigoon throwing in random jabs like calling Yozo a sad e-boy is incredible at temporarily lifting the opressive atmosphere and helping me make it through this story.
Basically what I thought of him. Not really that bad of a story
That's why I love his videos so much. I would NEVER be able to read half the books he details on my own. They're so depressing. 😅
The things he talks about in the novel are extremely common thoughts and masking patterns for people with childhood PTSD.
It also seems like he may have been on the autism spectrum.
I was going to say...
yep. I see in this character/author the many people I've met through group therapies for people who've been through "the worst of it" and usually in childhood. We certainly do find intense comfort in seeing others like us, though those with more intact empathy also tend to weep out of absolute despair that others understand that hell. Its painful and yet I think those bonds can save us when you meet in a constructive, guided place like those therapies specifically made with us in mind. It keeps boundaries that we need to not just burn up together.
You see that with addict couples too, they burn up together even faster. If I got too close with people like me it was very bad for us and others, yet if I surrounded myself with only happy healthy people I felt so disconnected from any humans. I think I often felt like I was a tainted ooze that would ruin anyone around me because if they got close and really knew me then they would be touched by all that shit too. Like I am very pleasant in the day to day and that really isolates you into an even worse place when you have no outlet to process what has been done to you.
I'm so incredibly thankful someone gave me the chance to get help, and I grieve the many abused and hopeless kids that grew into adults that feel isolated from the concept of humanity. You are accountable for the harm you cause others, and also I deeply pity the child where it started. I'm not religious but sort of the "there but before the grace of god go I" you know when you have a personality disorder from early childhood neglect/abuse... you can realize how insanely lucky you are to have gotten the version with empathy intact.
Exactly
Absolutely!!! These are the things ppl who haven't been through it or can't process what trying to recover from going through it will never understand.
Yōzō's conflicts with humanity reminded me of the monster speech L recites in Death Note: "Lying monsters are a real nuisance: They are much more cunning than others. They pose as humans even though they have no understanding of the human heart; they eat even though they've never experienced hunger; they study even though they have no interest in academics; they seek friendship even though they do not know how to love."
No human is actually a monster though. They're humans. Some that do unforgivable things, but human nonetheless
@@gilly_axolotl Have you seen Death Note? L finishes his speech by reiterating that surely a monster like that will eat him, and he knows this best, because he is that monster.
@@aquakit.133 Ah okay nvm
@@gilly_axolotl I disagree, some people have done things so heinous that classing them as human feels wrong to me.
Great point! I’m glad I saw your comment.
I think Yozo's reaction to Yoshiko's assault was actually him experiencing genuine heartbreak for the first time, but his mind processed it in a radically different manner.
I’m trying to be like Wendigoon one day! I would appreciate feedback in my vids, thank you if you do! 😁
Idk if its true but id like to believe that it is
I think it's him realizing how detached from. Humanity he us, and realizing that he will never, ever, become human, ever feel love, nor feel emotions at all. Realizing that for the rest of his life, he would be numb.
I assume it's an example of the fact that yozo not only doesn't see himself as a human, but doesn't see himself at all, he has almost no effect on anyone in the story, and the effect he does have likely would have occurred anyways, he doesn't effect the world at all, and so sees nothing wrong with the fact that he didn't effect the world then
@@HungPham-qq6me I agree. It seems like In that moment he felt like a literal ghost in passing moment, watching but not feeling. And I think the realization of his place in that scenario truly was the final nail in his coffin
It’s sad because I think if the original author lived in present day, he would’ve become an online horror manga artist and been able to connect with people who relate to his experience. Especially the fear of acceptance and masking around others. Therapy is also more accepted now than in the past, and maybe he could have gotten some real help.
He is just as human as everyone else. He just needed help to see it.
Having strong relationships and connections over shared passions doesn’t guarantee things become better. Those do help, but sometimes things break inside, and the fixes don’t “take,” either because the person keeps breaking it or because of a hundred other reasons. Sometimes a person has fellowship, purpose, love, and the admiration they deserve from their efforts... But the break inside them goes unnoticed until it consumes them, despite everything going right.
My UA-cam avatar is for my little brother. We were the best of friends, and even shared a lucid dream (it happened!) that we both remembered ever after. In the end, everyone was left wondering what more we could’ve done to save Jimmy... But it wasn’t our decision to make. Both he and we faced a problem we didn’t know how to answer, and only through experiencing it could we learn how to face it. “Disqualified From Humanity” perfectly encapsulates the inexorable tide of human tragedy: humans don’t know what’s going on inside other humans, much less inside ourselves, until the consequences have passed. If “Disqualified From Humanity” was never written and passed on, the genres it influenced would be radically different, and a version of the author born into success within those genres might be stricken worse than before.
The important thing is that every day brings new and greater understanding to this limited human mind, and self-destruction comes in many forms. Life, the deaths of others, the bonds we form, and the stories we share... Amazing tapestries weave from our sagas and tragedies, and even if we’re left wondering “could anything have fixed this?” the answer is always: *yes, possibly.*
And for some, “yes possibly” becomes “yes, [x] saved me.” While for others, their loss inspires millions in their honor.
Perhaps my little brother and the original author of “Disqualified From Humanity” might’ve been best friends who kept each other going... But more importantly, their tragic, unnecessary suicides are understood, and that understanding offers a fighting chance to someone else out there. They may not have survived their time as humans, but humanity, if only in small pockets, is now more empathetic and human because of them.
@@WisdomThumbs I'm sorry about your brother.
“We are as forlorn as children lost in the woods. When you stand in front of me and look at me, what do you know of the griefs that are in me and what do I know of yours. And if I were to cast myself down before you and weep and tell you, what more would you know about me than you know about Hell when someone tells you it is hot and dreadful? For that reason alone we human beings ought to stand before one another as reverently, as reflectively, as lovingly, as we would before the entrance to Hell.”
- franz kafka
@@WisdomThumbs Thank you for saying that, I don't think this comment understands the gravity of some situation.
For me, I didn't suffer through any abuse, any trauma. I am financially well off, my family loves me. Yet still on some random day in September of 2020, it felt as I was cursed. No quirky background, no victim story, just pain (and a hell of a lot of it at that). I have gone through the rounds of therapy, with none succeeding, put in the psych ward to no avail, was discovered to be unresponsive to medicine, and now my family has given up, saying that they can't solve my problem, so here I am, replying to a UA-cam comment hoping for some level of kinsmanship, someone who perhaps understands what is going on. It's okay if you can't or don't want to help, but if you do I'm all ears.
@@itsLantik I’ll ask some questions first. It’s okay if you don’t know the answers, just cogitating on these will give your brain something to chew on.
Did your sensation of being cursed start from physical pains, or from the psychological and emotional trauma of the global response to Covid/interventions? Or was it a combination of both? Perhaps it started well before that, and 2020 was when you became aware because it broke you?
How clean and organized is your living space? (unfinished tasks, especially those that pile up clutter, are “weighted” heavily by human minds)
Did you have financial stability (through help or yourself) before this started? And how are you doing now?
Have you ever had a spiritual aspect in life? Perhaps meditation, philosophy, or going to church with family?
Do you have any friendships or friendly acquaintances, even if you’ve not spoken in years?
Do you say “I love you” and “thank you,” or does the effort of dredging those out feel too pointless?
What are the activities, hobbies, or career paths you valued before September 2020? Do you know of any that you want to value?
Being resistant to medication is the best thing that happened to you, BTW. New understandings of psychology and depression show that depression is almost never a simple chemical imbalance. Everyone I’ve ever known to take anti-depressants or anti-anxiety is still depressed and anxious years later, they just struggle to *be aware of it.* Turns out it’s much more important to be emotionally aware and able to process feelings, than it is to be artificially propped up by numbness or chemical euphoria. Reliance on anti-depression meds is a rut from which there is no escape; the only solution is always “more drugs,” because that’s all the vast majority of doctors and psychologists are taught.
I spent three years in bed. After Jimmy’s suicide, I kept going strong for awhile, until my step-dad’s grief broke him and he turned to alcoholism. Step-dad accidentally poisoned my dog, then blamed me for “not feeding the dogs” that I fed every day. Then he picked a fistfight with me. I won. The next day we all discovered that a javelina was eating the dogfood, proving I’d been doing my tasks after all. Step-dad broke down and apologized, then spent two years fixing his life and quitting alcohol, but I crumbled. My grandma took me in and gave me space, a ride to counseling, and all the love I needed.
More importantly, grandma kept me working on small tasks and chores after the first year. Physical and mental activity and love brought me back... Slowly. It also helped that a lady hired me to illustrate a children’s book based on my brother. Then, even though I still hated life and wanted to die, I recovered just enough to move back in with my mom and step-dad, repaired our bonds through work, and took up art and construction as careers again. The *work* I didn’t feel ready for... But it re-sharpened me.
Grandma was recently killed by the shot. No question about that, it gave her myocarditis on injection day, and she died rapidly. I got to be there for her in her final weeks, so she got to see all her efforts pay off. Then she died with shingles growing on her injection site. That was my Thanksgiving this year.
I’m not sure if I can help you, but I’ll damn sure try. And we can either talk here, or on Twitter, or on Discord (though UA-cam blocks all my external links now, so you’d have to message me on Twitter for a Discord invite).
@liberandum I'll check em out, thanks for the suggestions.
This was the book that convinced me to go on meds as a teen because I related too much to his emotional state. Rereading it recently and not being able to see myself in Yozo as much as before showed me directly that things can get better, even if they aren’t great now
Also as NLH was sort of an autobiography for Osamu, I wonder if he had SZPD or something similar based on how he describes said feelings. This book feels like my SZPD a lot of the time
Exactly
I'm glad things have gotten better for you if that's what you said
@@gilbeegee5386 what is SZPD? Or what does it stand for?
I'm glad you're reaching out for help! So sorry that you've went through that
as if the story wasn’t bad as it is it just HAD to be the life story of the author 💀
exactly bro
You do realize that this book is basically a suicide note, it’s about his own life because he is about to end it. Dude
i dont think a skull emoji fits here
It was pretty predictable.
It's not all the same. For example, Dazai never raped his wife. The suicides are pretty similar, the things he went through, yes. But Yozo and Dazai are still two different people with similar experiences.
Edit to add: Dazai never raped OR watched his wife be raped. I just remembered that Yozo never raped his wife either; he only watched it happen partially.
Holy shit, that reveal that it was based partly off the author’s life was terrifying.
I’m trying to be like Wendigoon one day! I would appreciate feedback in my vids, thank you if you do! 😁
Another "that" and I was going to have a seizure thank God
@@jocote1062that that that that that that are you having a seizure ?
@Jo Côté are you mad that there was only 2 thats in that comment? That seems like a you problem and that you should fix it immediately got that?
@@jocote1062 that that that that that
Junji Itto literally said: "Oh the original author, well, he is dead."
Wendigoon + Junji Ito.
It is like having two different paranormal detectives in the same story: A light-hearted one and a cynical one.
By the way, Wendigoon's t-shirt reminds me of Ace Ventura.
goddamn these bots
Lol the bots came out the woodworks
Omg yesss+
@You must know that's a real crusty video
@SeenBefore what do you mean finally, it's been happening for months where have you been lol
I think one of the things that I absolutely adore about Ito is that he has a lot of empathy: his characters and their emotions always are so real. (it also helps that he is also a talented writer)
I only read this book because of an anime called bungo stray dogs, and it has become my favorite book, theres something so hauntingly beautiful about it, and it has made me cry, i love no longer human so much im happy you covered it
i was looking for a bsd comment :D
“Hello Everybody, Today we’re going to be sad.” - Wendigoon
I appreciate your honesty & bluntness.
Me waking up in the morning lmao
@@vincentbardai1096 Lmao, that was me today xD
Ty we
I'm glad you mentioned that about saying goofy stuff like "unalive" or something else. In social media's effort to dodge words like this they don't realize they actually undermine the truth that needs to be told about people's stories. Trying to "brighten up" subjects like this just makes it sound more of a mockery. TOS on these sites need to be called out!
It reminds me of George Carlon's bit on soft language
I think in some cases saying stuff like unalive is so you don’t get your video taken down because UA-cam is weird noadays
I do agree with you but not all of it is just to lighten up for lighting ups sake
@@DeapSeaCowboy it's 100% because of that. I remember Aba and Preach saying they just censor things randomly because YT doesn't give clear does and don'ts so just to make sure they stay in the safe zone sometimes they go overboard with censorship on their channel.
people literally can't talk about their lives, needs, experiences etc on social media without replacing words. they will delete all of it, you will get kicked out of communities for putting the community at risk, venues for discussion and resources get taken down
it is entirely because of platform cnsrshp, it's not joking even if sometimes it's funny. i can't even say the names of some of my health conditions online because they are also used as insults. my comments get taken down if i talk about my life. I've had things taken down for saying my other comments were d leeted.
You don't write scripts? Are you serious??
All of these videos are a testament to your storytelling abilities and charisma. It's no wonder your popularity exploded as quickly as it has, and it doesn't seem like it's slowing down!
Ikr that's crazy, he sometimes shows his notebook where he write his notes for the vid and they're like only half a page or so compared to his hour long videos
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Surprised da roach dogg jr is a based wendigoon enjoyer but it runs
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I'm unconvinced by that I guarantee he has some sort of notes. with all those jump cuts there's no way he's not looking at something
As soon as Yozo began describing how he viewed other people and the world my chest began to ache. There is a special kind of grief in knowing there have always been people who are different from what is considered “normal” who didn’t have the resources or support to help them or even understand that there is nothing wrong with them. The culture surrounding neurodivergence has come a long way and it hurts me to hear the stories of people who could have had a chance at a better life if only people knew then what we know now. Another comment summed it up really well. “It is a privilege to know”
Yozo is not a good person or even someone that seems like a person, he's more like a beautiful parasite. Something that leaches from us and thinks it's acceptable.
I suppose I've never had enough empathy for such kinds of evil.
I thought the same at some point between the beginning and middle of the story
Who is that in ur pfp
I don't know if you mean mental illness as a whole or specifically autism (I see ND used in different manners), so this is based off of if you meant it for the latter.
I'm unsure if he was on the spectrum or anything like that, I think he just had a very specific form of antisocial traits. He had emotions, but they were very muted and dull, he mainly felt the more negative ones compared to the positive, and forced positive expressions to please others. He didn't relate to or understand people, so he had no empathy. He had delusions about what people were like (absolutely due to trauma), and he feared what would happen if he said no to someone. I think this story isn't about the spectrum, I think it's a very realistic and excellent look into what someone without empathy can go through. It's crippling and lonely, their experiences shaping how they handle it. He also absolutely was depressed, so that added onto the hollow feeling he had.
I recognize myself in this story and am autistic.
I genuinely could not help but break down into tears at certain parts of this story. As a child, I was diagnosed with social communications disorder, and Yozo's/Osamu's behavior and world view sounds A LOT like undiagnosed and untreated social communications disorder.
I never developed the manipulative tendencies and numerous other flaws he displays in Yozo's character, but it's still surreal to go though his story. I kept asking myself "Had I not got psychiatric help at the young age that I did, would I have turned out like this? Could this terrible husk of a person have been me?" And it's terrifying to think about.
It sounds a bit more like antisocial personality disorder, that is what Yozo goes through
I think it's not even only the lack of psychiatric help that hurts him but the lack of affection from a young age and the abuse he suffers.
This was my thought, as well, though to me it sounded like autism and depression. It was definitely a deep feeling of "there but for the grace of god", either way, though. Very tragically relatable in a lot of ways.
Same here. Meds and behavioral therapy have been a staple of my life since I was 5. I can't imagine what I would have become without that.
after learning that you don't write scripts for your videos, i'm 10 times more impressed by your channel. i just love everything about it. how you're able to remove the art and artist and simultaneously analyza and dissect both, while maintaining train of thought, and offering an application to yourself, is truly something to behold. thank you Wendigoon
As someone with ADHD, the idea that Wendigoon can do this stuff scriptless, while staying on topic and without rambling, is baffling and almost makes him a demi-god to me. I can’t even do house chores without a to-do list, lol
WHAT, REALLY?! Damn!!! The dude must do his research, practice in his head a while bunch... and also cut a whole bunch too.... makes those 9+ hour long conspiracy iceberg type videos WAY more impressive!
That really isn't that hard. Every presentation I've ever done, I've never gone up with notes, or prepared other than "just doing research," and it always goes super well.
You weirdos that use scripts and such don't realize that those hinder you
This is high praise. Own it.
@@pyropulseIXXI you can still hype yourself without putting down others. Wendigoon has substance. Show me one of your lectures.
I find terrifying the idea that this is one of the most selling books in Japan. The concept of "masking" is not something alien to Japanese people, but something that is socially done, I've heard and read many stories about how Japanese culture tends to punish the "reveal" of one's true personality and desires with others (even with a person as close as a relative or a partner). The idea that a great majority of Japanese people relate to Yozo story and Ozamu life experiences is completely abhorrent.
And even more abhorrent is the idea that oneself, could relate to that feeling. The sensation of not belonging, of being a bystander in life or simply the idea of living in a current state of unending dysthymia.
It's truly not only terrifying itself for the story and the subtext of the life of the author, but the implications of said story being a cautionary tale of a series of thoughts and actitudes that a large mayority of people (not only in Japan) could relate to.
The idea of ending just like Yozo.
One of those groups that can also relate are autistic people. People who have autism also can relate heavily to Yozo because we too mask as we fear people. I recently decided, fuck it, and stopped masking all together and I have felt the best I have ever felt in my entire life.
aw man, as wendigoon slowly revealed that the story was based off the authors life i felt a pit form in my stomach. like he did plenty of inexcusable things but god what a tragic life
time stamp??
same here. my heart just hurt when he said that. god, that just hurt me in a way i cant describe
i found it like 4 minutes later btw
@@christmasdespacito2505and didnt share it?
Did anyone else get this book by accident? I was gifted this for Christmas cause my cousins thought it was a bungou stray dogs book until I had to explain to her that the characters were based on real people and that she got me a book by the real person but that I still appreciated the sentiment, I will forever hold this book to my heart
What’s ironic about all this is despite the fact that Yozo is terrified of people and their emotions, and finds it pointless how people care about anything at all, and “only do things to serve themselves.” He himself, is exactly like them. He isn’t an “empty” shell he isn’t “not human.” His desire not to get close to anyone and his fear OF humans, is a sign of humanity itself. Despite the fact that he finds it pointless to “care” about anything at all, he himself carss about people finding out about him not being normal, he fears it. So technically, he is human. It’s like the saying, “I think, therefore I am.” He has fears, he has desires, which is exactly what makes people human. People also put on a facade to hide their true thoughts, and mentalities. Why? Because their fear of others finding out who they truly are. Which is what makes it funny how he finds emotions terrifying, yet he himself experiences such as intense fear for human connection.
Honestly, this is just a great example at how shit we have been at understanding mental illness and helping people with them sometimes. This guy went his entire life not being truly cared for, for any amount of reasons. Society had a gorilla grip on him that killed him. The kid needed help, and since the man never got it, he did many terrible things.
Maybe he could have been an angel.
Yeah he was so close to being an anglel as he watched his wife get raaped.
His writing admits that he still recognized within himself a shred of innocence. The walls of guilt may kill many, but each foundation is innocence.
Tbh we are still really shit at understanding mental illness. Like, depression, the most common mental illness, and we still have no idea what causes it, and potentially even worse, we still have no idea why antidepressants work.
Like, sure, we are improving, but our understanding of mental illness is less than rudimentary still.
This is specific to Japanese society in general. Just to throw this out.
@liberandum Sometimes, the "help" people get is not the help they need. Assuming ungratefulness and fault on those who received "help" but didn't really get help is arrogant, but not a surprising response from outsiders looking in.
One of the biggest panic attacks I've had in my life was after reading this. Obviously I'm nothing like the protag but I'm autistic and have a hard time relating to others. The story is so heart wrenching and leaves you feeling hopeless, there's no closure at all
I can relate to that. It deals with the same concepts as Evangelion, but at least that one gives you hope after destroying your ego, no longer human just deals with the bad parts then amplifies them.
I would say that I am someone who's eerily similar to the protagonist with some exceptions, and while the story is horrifying, I ended up finding comfort that I am not alone and my problems aren't insignificant or made up.
I have autism too and was thinking the same. Felt like what I was feeling taken to the extreme, very powerful
yeah, me too, plus the whole thing about trying to mask yourself to make other people not ask things about you, that one hit way too hard.
same! I have Autism too and I found this weirdly relatable- It kinda scared me
When I had re-read this story through Junji Ito's re-telling of it it had sent me into a long depression spiral that I stepped out of feeling much... better, actually.
I've been a fan of Junji Ito and I knew the story before so I had pre-ordered it and waited with so much anticipation and excitement but no dread- I think my first time reading it I hadn't been mature enough to digest the story properly. What I felt when I read it was this vulnerable feeling of being seen in such a terrifying way that I had an identity crisis. It was probablyyyy just a few years ago the english publication was released, so I was just about 21 and struggling with a failing and dying out relationship, a death, a new job, and therapy for the first time since high school. Being 21 but having a history of underage drinking at parties and such I leaned pretty hard into going out for drinks, drinking at home, and everything else that came with that. And much like in the story, I was using this as a way to dull my crippling fear of connection, of letting people down.
The story really caused me to look back on and dig up a lot that I hadn't been prepared for, but even though it was really dirty and ugly, I came out feeling like I could move on because I did choose to look my horses from hell in their face and find the path I needed to claw my way out of that hell.
My experiences weren't to the extreme of Yozo's/Osamu's, but I feel like I was able to keep myself from being dragged too deep because of this experience. Almost like if the meeting of Yozo and Osamu in the hospital had not ended in tragedy.
Anyways, all that to say- thank you for making this video and shining a light on such an important and tragic story.
I really don't see what makes people so devastated by this story, why they find it so depressing. In my mind that is very normal. Although I am dealing with different kind of problems, I'm a different personality, quite darker than Yozo, but the lingering depression, the addictions, the suicidal thoughts, being out of touch with society is all very real, it's an everyday thing since I was a child, minus the addictions, that started as a teenager, but it is so very normal except that Yozo had more luck in his relationships. I can't understand what people find so tragic here, it is all standard life to me.
We usually normalize pretty messed up stuff as coping mechanism against the immense pain said stuff actually causes.
More often than not, it’s not that we are strong and feel nothing; we have blocked ourselves from feeling the pain. And the only way to heal, is to face and feel it, safely.
But that process only starts by questioning what’s the real truth of the situation.
as an autistic person, i heavily related to yozo in his childhood segment. it made all the tragedy hit even harder. its one of those stories that sticks in the back of your mind for a long while
I’ve read No Longer Human years ago, I heard about it in a game called Shin Megami Tensei IV. Ever since reading it, I thought it was such a shame that it wasn’t really known outside of Japan, because there’s something about this book that’s just different from everything else to me. So to see that you’re covering it, meaning your ever-growing audience will get to hear about it, makes me very happy :)
No Longer Human is pretty well known outside of Japan I believe
It’s what all of the American/ European stories of detached sociopaths come really close to but never get nearly as dark or existential. A clockwork orange and films like taxi driver and American psycho etc get to the core of what makes them tick but they never really drew in the soul crushing misery nearly as much as this. And I’m seeing so many “omg literally me” comments in this video I kind of wish it didn’t go down the same kind of fanbase as taxi driver, Joker or other loner movies because half of the audience of those films are lonely weirdos that fetishize despicable characters because they have the same vague sense of loneliness and despair.
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@@theeoddments960 "half of the audience of those films are lonely weirdos that fetishize despicable characters because they have the same vague sense of loneliness and despair." As a person who doesn't care for those films, maybe they are lonely because people call them "lonely weirdos that fetishize despicable characters". They probably do experience bad things and congregate around figures that on a basic psychological level, are similar to them. If people were to reach out their hands to the "lonely weirdos" of the world, maybe they wouldn't be so lonely.
Do you remember Shin Megami Tensei IV referencing the novel?
No Longer Human is definitely one of the most tragic and relatable stories I've ever read. Being a former addict myself, the dread and alienation the author depicts hits a chord so deep in myself. A feeling that I'm sure only other addicts can relate with.
Yeah, I just sighed when I realized how much I related to the story. Don't know how I feel about the fact that my life story (or something adjacent) is one of the most depressing things that people have ever read lol
@@himesilva it's because of the obvious fact that you, him, and I are suffering from depression. Unlike most people though, I never became addicted to any drug or material. I saw what it did to people, and how it affected me personally made me hate addictions with a passion. For a time I hated addicts too.
And kinda like Yozo, I hated/feared humans and human emotion as well.
I would say as an adolescent I was almost literally a stump, doing and being nothing, because that was better than ever having any affect on the world or the people who live in it. Couldn't even kill myself because that would be an action with an affect on the world and others.
I truly believed I would grow up and die on the streets as a bum. I guess being religious and believing in something and finally understanding what positives and negatives truly mean in life helped saved me. I hope depression doesn't plague you your whole life. When you escape it I mean truly escape it, there will always be a piece of you left in its abyss staring at you, this other you who is still apart of you saying the nothingness is beautiful and the world isn't worth it. It can be terrifying how much you want it back. But the moments of clarity without depression made me realize how much of liar it is too. Life and your place in it is worth it, you just have to be the one to believe it.
@@karissamacgregor7449 Death is not so tragic once we realize its something every living thing deserves. We are supposed to fear death, because we are supposed to stay here, because it makes us stronger and refines our spirit.
@@Primatenate88 I agree.
Death has its own special beauty as well.
Some fear it, some don't think about it, others embrace it, and then some even idolize it.
I like learning of people's different perspectives on how they view this crucial part of life.
@@karissamacgregor7449 the way i see death changes day by day. Ive felt all of those perspectives. Today it just something that happens. Once i see a corpse again i might be horrified it. Or some day, crave it. Not recently though, luckily.
Junji Ito heard the phrase “death of the author” and said “hold my beer.”
This story really resonates with me, along with another story; being "Book Girl, and The Suicidal Mime" the idea of "Clowning" or "Masking" really hits me because it's something I struggled with a lot. What is it to be "Normal" how will people perceive you if you aren't? Are you even who you seem to be or what you've told yourself you are? It's the idea of putting on a face and saying what people want to hear to avoid conflict. It's haunting, but unfortunately a reality for a lot of interactions and you just try not to lose yourself to your mask and know who you are on the inside
I remember reading book girl some years ago and not understanding much apart from the mask and faking oneself parts, although I also remember there being something which is somewhat inspirational for lack of better word in that Dazai wrote stuff like run melos and. I liked bookgirl but I'm too smooth brain to understand it, only comprehended cute book goblin
I like being a clown tho and take great pleasure in making people laugh.
For all the tragedy of no longer human i think the thing that always hits me hardest is that Yozo/Dazai always feels human. To me he is human, a human who fails to recognise his own humanity. He was never “destined” to be inhuman, he did not have the eyes to see the truth of his true nature, or the nature of others.
I read Ito's rendition two or three years ago and it filled me with this deep, overwhelming but at the same time subtle somber sadness. The scene at the sanitarium warmed my heart, and the ending left a deep, dark swallowing gash. In brief, after I finished it I was almost forced into immobility. Such a great adaptation.
I thought Ito’s adaptation was lame and unnecessary. The novel stands alone fine already, but Furuya’s adaptation managed to flesh out certain aspects of the story and depict others in a perfect way that reflected Yozo’s psyche.
Ito is talented and a fine enough mangaka but he’s better at just ooky spooky scary shit that doesn’t have an explanation than he is at adapting a nightmarish psychological character study.
I did read the original because of the manga Bungō Stray Dogs, to understand the fictional character Dazai more, and wow. It got me started in reading actual books again, and now I read older philosophical literature and enjoy it :)) I relate heavily to No Longer Human and stupidly, I read it in a HORRIBLE time I my life where I had completely isolated myself from society after just moving into independent accommodation at 17. Luckily it helped me tether myself to reality instead of give up all over again. I am so incredibly grateful for that book
Wendigoon is goated for the care he shows his audience, from the warnings beforehand, to the comedic nature of some of his videos, to simply making the videos themselves. Among much else, man is genuinely No:1 obscure topic discussion channel
I love him. The GOAT
yozo stating that after being in a facility, he’s disqualified from being human and is permanently branded as such was when the book really hit me across the face because that’s exactly how i felt and how i still feel about myself after being in a facility.
as you should
Ignore the other guy, you are still a human person of your own. While you might feel disconnected from life and others, you are still your own person. You are a creature of your own being, outside of where you have been and what you have been labeled as. Whether you feel you are human or not, you are still a person worthy of dignity and happiness. Anyone that tells you otherwise probably gets something out of stripping you of that
Don't worry about the troll, people will say the meanest things just because they feel protected by internet anonymity. Having stayed ona facility does not make you any less human. Seeking help or being helped is never a bad thing even if it can feel dehumanizing. I personally feel it's a sign of true dedication to one's humanity.
@@frauleinzuckerguss1906 I dont think he was just trolling, its kinda what the whole story tells us, these people, even tho they deserve all the help and love as any other person does, do to their illness, and actions brought up by them, do become a hinder on others. And as cruel as it may seem we do alienate them in this facilities and conditions. The fact that they no longer feel human anymore is brought on by society itself, its just how it works, fucked up as it is
@@mauricioperez6424 Wait, who do you think I'm calling a troll here?
I read the novel in 2020, and the way you are describing and explaining it is so accurate. I really relate to a lot of Dazai's fears, fear of consequences of letting people down, being scared of letting people know you yet craving intimacy... I think his early childhood instilled so much trauma that it shaped the way he grew up, and unfortunately the "lessons" learned from his early life did not serve him into adulthood, as these were all maladaptive traits. PTSD sucks and is more than just nightmares and flashbacks
Ooh I love your assessment of this from a psychological standpoint.
Fear of letting people know or see the real you, yet wanting intimacy and deep connection hits a nerve for me. It also shows yet again how much childhood plays an important role and then everything else that comes later. Do you have some experiences or thoughts that you would like to share?
I think it's more nuanced and interesting then that. He doesn't crave intimacy, he craves the safety of people being predictable and somewhat controllable. It kind of relates back to his fascination with things with no purpose. I think he likes those things partially because it's how he imagines people genuinely accepting him would work. He would stop having to hide because people might just accept that he's a thing that exists for no reason, and not force him to be anything else.
It's partly why I think he sees the asylum as the ultimate dehumanization. He maintains his status and privilege as a human by pretending to be one. He's missing the fundamental pieces that he'd need to ever make it all real. There's no fixing something that doesn't exist, so once they see him for real, they'll start trying to fix him and never stop, and never ever give him his status back. Full circle you can see how that relates more broadly to his fear of what people will do when they don't get what they want, and his views on society in general. If they act erratically and dangerously when they can't get what they want, what are they going to do to you if they find out you can't BE what they want. It's like fears relating to homosexuality but on a much much more fundamental level.
He goes through life giving people everything they want from him, because if he does that, then they'll assume that's his purpose and he can walk through life, safely unexamined.
i wrote an essay about this story and it left me broken, took me months of research into dazai's life and by the end i just felt such a connection to him and the character that it just took a huge toll on my mental health
amazing adaptation tho, ito's art really does fit the style of dazai's narrative
In high school I had a similar assignment on Sylvia Plath’s “The Bell Jar.” It’s certainly disturbing how many parallels there are.
@🖤𝕯𝖔𝖘𝖙𝖔𝖊𝖛𝖘𝖐𝖞🖤 I never finished that anime I'm just interested in the author himself I actually hate how bsd fans tend to mischaracterise the actual authors because of the characters, dazai in the anime is nothing like the real dazai
@@Mamba503 ooh I've never read Sylvia Plath but I might some day
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I reccomend you read "the stranger" by Albert Camus
This reminds me of the amazing show End of the Fucking World. It's about a teenage boy who believes he is a sociopath getting into a relationship with a girl so he can kill her. The entire show (specifically the first season) is following the journey between the two of them and how connecting with just one person can completely change your life and the way you think about yourself.
Dude, that show is so good
The first season was cool ig, the second one sucked ass, so boring
I love that show but it gives me depression. I couldn't even watch the last few episodes because it made me so sad.
😮😊😅
@@yellowhouse4911 yeah, it's easy to understand the whole point in the first season already. I guess people just got invested in the story and they made a second..?
Bro, you need to start a book club. I love your taste in reading.
i havent read Ito's version but, having read the original Dazai book, what makes it so scary for me is how there is nothing that unusual about the main character, he could truly be anyone, me or you, in a very dark place in a world that doesnt accommodate people with those feelings. a book that has become more and more omniprescent today, some 75 years after it was published
The point is that he IS just like everyone else. His worldview that he's broken or set apart, no matter how justified due to trauma, is ultimately false, and his separation and isolation is mostly self-imposed.
The thing is. The creator did kill himself. Which makes the book even more powerful. It was the real insight of a man who was “no longer human”
i agree that a certain part of it is self-imposed, however i think that because people showed so little regard and sympathy for him when he was at his lowest point, his isolation went from being built by him to being something he couldn't escape, even if he wanted to, making his depression worse and exasperating that worldview
I kinda relate. I'm autistic and struggle a lot with derealization and depersonlization, i don't fully see myself as a person i don't feel human and i never have. People fucking terrify me i have never understood why people hurt other people for seemingly no reason or how others don't seem to care about how others feel, i am a people pleaser by nature hurting people ia something that i am terrified of doing (like there's this dude that, my mum says probably just wants a friend, messages me a lot i don't like talking to him but i continue to because i don't want to hurt him). I mask so much that i don't know who i truely am. A lot of things around me have a purpose but art doesn't and that means i don't need to, thats what i think yozo sees in art as well as the fact he can express the way he sees the world and i relate to that.
One of the best as well. A tragic artist who shouldn't have died so young, but while Dazai was here he had an amazing outlet as an author. The Setting Sun and No Longer Human are two of the greatest pieces of literature I've ever read. No Longer Human, as cold as it can be, is such a challenging look at humanity that somehow rounds itself out with plenty of empathy by the very end. The Setting Sun is less cold, but it is certainly still very sad. More or less a heavy yet heartfelt drama, especially when standing next to the tragedy of No Longer Human.
Yeah, The Setting Sun is quite different. The brother’s (the main character has a brother, right? Hopefully I remember well) story, though...I feel like it again touches on being alienated. In a different way, more subtly too, but when reading the letter, in which he explained everything, I thought to myself “yep, that’s Dazai”.
@@hitosan3771 god yeah the brother was another brutally realistic portrayal of vices, but the letter & the way his bar friends talk about him rounds out their faults in a beautiful but devastating way.
With the brother of The Setting Sun -and practically the entirety of No Longer Human- it feels like the author being as absolutely as cruel as he could be to himself/ his self image.
Absolutely heartbreaking
Didn’t he abandon his wife and family for his mistress who he committed suicide with ?
@@Randompotatoes-qs7bm yep. "He shouldn't have died so young" dude Dazai committed suicide. He tried to commit a lovers suicide 4 times where mysteriously he didn't die but the women did. And succeeded on the 5th attempt. Dazai was insane, really on a different plane of existence. Which is part of the reason he is so well remembered but...
@@Randompotatoes-qs7bm Well, yeah, in the end, he did what he did, there's no denying that. He lived a life of a really broken man (mentally ill with no proper help, addicted, etc.), even though he had many good friends, a wife, and kids. Nothing new, I guess.
honestly, I'm so glad I got this adaptation for my birthday a few years ago, because I've secretly struggled with self alienation and feeling that I wasnt a person. Or not human enough to warrant love and affection.
I got this book as a gift by sole coincidence because by mother remembered that I'm a fan of Ito's work, and gifted it to me.
Little did she know that it spoke to me on a personal level, and offered me some perspective on what it would really feel like to be closer to losing my humanity. After I finished the book I legit went outside for the first time in months just to go have a walk
I honestly and full heartedly think that story made me better myself to avoid wallowing in self hatred and self perpetuated misery. Because at the very least it made me recognize that I was still human after all
Why would you want to be human?
@@mr.sophistication2461 human beings have flaws, and recognizing having said flaws pushes me to do better
@@itsClaptrap We're gonna make it bro. I am proud of you.
I feel similarly, especially in the sense that it seems a lot of normal things that make people happy/emotional don’t do it for me. But I’m still human and have things I like doing so that’s good
This ❤
I’d honestly love to see you do a breakdown of more of Junji Ito’s works on your channel! Uzumaki, Tomie, even some of his short stories and their themes would make for some great analysis by you! It’s a perfect use of the fear of the unknown, and Ito himself even cites Lovecraft as one of his biggest influences. I think he even did a portrait of Lovecraft in his style, too.
"He was an angel" This novel really sticks with me. It'll walk with me for all of my life. The affect it had in such a short number of words is incredible.
what feelings did you have, mine were negative, no empathy, just disdain it made me hate the author more
@@BaldurtheImpious Keep your disrespectful comments to yourself.
@@LumosVeil how is it disrespectful? 🤔
@@LumosVeil he feared intimacy, confrontation, he was compulsive, and fed into he nihilistic nature, he manipulated everyone around him. A very relatable character, but truly awful one, his misery wasn't his father's fault it was his own.
@@LumosVeil what's disrespectful is thinking that this is an admirable person. When it's not. The dude used people to fuel his crutches and I'm supposed to feel bad for him. He could have looked for help yet, the only help he found was when he had nothing but himself, his trauma, and the purgatory he locked himself in. Which I find extremely fitting.
as a schizoid this story hits different. feeling so disconnected from other people, wanting to create art based off of the horrors of other people and how that has changed you, ugh. real shit.
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completely off topic but nice pfp!
hey, a fellow schizoid; how fun to find another in the wild.
i also find this story quite relatable in certain ways.
You should read the part where Yoshiko goes full schizo while Yozo goes through his addiction
Then make art. Make it on the side. For yourself, or maybe others if you want to.
I love the story, as I love just about everything you cover. But the best part is hearing and seeing the passion you have for the stories you cover, and the awe they inspire in you. I felt the same way about your coverage of Blood Meridian, (which I did watch all 5+ hours of, thank you very much) You're so into the stories, which makes me get into the stories ❤
you dropped a bombshell
man doesn't write scripts and can narrate like its a full biography
that's insane
I find a piece of myself almost relating to Yozo. Not all of his thought process (obviously) but the pieces when someone sees through the “clown” mask and he feels that chest tightening anxiety, I could think of several instances where I felt that exact panic. As an autistic person I’ve never really understood what other people are thinking fully, and I’ve been terrified of saying no to people for fear of their reaction or disappointment. I feel so much empathy for people that I’d rather put on a performance to appease them than face a future where all of me is seen, a future where my vulnerability is exposed. And when someone can look past the facade, it feels as if the earth is going to open up and swallow me whole.
I watched this months ago but just watched it again with my son. The tragic horror of this story is so deep. It reminds me that we are all human and need to respect each other's stories and boundaries, and to care enough to see through the social mask. Maybe even care enough to not expose it, even if or when we do see it.
We love you, Wendigoon. You have come so far in a year, but your pure hearted exploration of the nightmarish has not changed. We hope you always keep that 😊
honestly, hearind wendigoon go, "if youtube would rather have me make fun of people [going through tragedy], then they can take it up with god, i'm not going to" has infinitely increased my respect for the man and religion as a whole. props to wendigoon. that was such a powerful sentence delivered so casually.
@@mcgavinclapping9490 reddit tier comment
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Comment’s deleted and I don’t even need to see it to like yours lmao.
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@@littlecousin5630 😂😂
@@screamingleak3725 what did they say?
The scariest part, to me anyway, was just how much of myself I saw in the character/author. I saw parallels to my own life in more places than I'd like to admit.
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After almost my whole life getting backstabbed i find the author relatable
It's almost like... its a critique and self utilizing piece of writing depicting life from the perspective of someone who has mental disorder (but of course excessive in parts), which means if you are for example depressed it only makes sense for it to resonate with you
Hearing about this story touched something in me. I used to feel very similar to the protagonist, from my earliest memory until i was like 16 or 17, except that I used to be a pathological liar as well. I still struggle with depression and don’t remember what changed my perspective but listening to this video reminded me of those dark days. This story puts in words an experience and outlook that, although I shared, I could never express so eloquently. I’m kind of glad this channel has blown up so much because my comment will probably get lost among the thousands of other ones as this is something I’ve only told maybe three other people in my own personal life but I had to put something out there.
I relate to the author and yourself as well. I think a great deal of personal growth and reflection is necessary. After a few years I started calling it my "disease" and this video as well as your comment reminded me of how long it had been since I reflected on that period of my life.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. As the video went on I keep waiting for the really bad part to come but I didn't feel that it did. Then I realized it's because I relate to the experiences of early truma and the way it changes one's relationship with the world. How it creates fears and habits that others can't imagine feeling. How dehumanizing it is. I'm still coming back from a lot of things that have happened in my life. This book kind of puts the journey of living past the trauma into perspective.
I dont really know what to say. I feel the same way you and the people that commented on your comment. I could explain how i felt. But wouldnt this be an effect of being urged to satisfy other people and be related to them. I kinda think i am going crazy. What of this is still „me“. idk what to do anymore, it doesnt effect my life too much but i want to do something about it.
@@Richard-jf3mx I wish there was a magic word I could say something that’ll take you out of it and if there is, I don’t know it . I “grew” out of it at around 17, this author didn’t escape for 27 years. The only thing I can think that might help is to look for things that interest you, something you, either already are passionate about, or can develop a passion for, and then chase it; do things for yourself and try to remove yourself from the opinions of others. Id say good luck on your road to recovery but as you probably haven’t ever been better, the phrase isn’t completely adequate.
@@Dr.Aqueous I completely relate to “waiting for the bad part.” Stay strong and good luck. I might just be a complete stranger on the internet but at least you aren’t completely alone in these feelings.
This feels like a really good cautionary tale of how fucked up someone's life can be due to mental illness and possibly (I don't know enough about the author's history to make the call, but it sounds too relatable to my own to not mention) neurodivergency if they don't recieve proper help.
@@okayida oh yeah well obviously
Neurodivergency is pseudoscience. Its a nothing word that implies and means nothing. It's a scam that holds no medical distinction at all and the only purpose that word serves is to gas light people into thinking they are victims.
@@okayida Capitalism is the only economic policy that has allowed the study of the mind to be financially possible. Go back to china communist slave. You don't get to own my labor.
Yeah of course it’s about mental illness and trauma but I also got the feeling it can be related to neurodivergency too.
@@summero-my5in the entire concept of neudivergence is a pseudoscience. The word neurdivergent literally means nothing and describes nothing.
Man I relate really hard to this story. Not sure what's wrong with me, but since I was in my teens I have always struggled with wanting things. Not in a sociopathic way since I often have negative emotions, just not positive ones. It is interesting watching how somebody else deals with trying to understand such things from the outside. Reminds me of my attempts to teach and force myself to want.
If anyone is curious, I feel like Yozo truly desired a connection to a higher power, a reason, and simply couldn't bring himself to justify one... that was/is the situation with me, and the rest snowballs down from there. It does become infuriating how much is done for simplistic reasons when you are of the opinion that they are underlined by no greater reason...
Consider the bridge example. You put a tremendous energy into building a bridge to get from one place to another. Why? To get to the other side. Why? Perhaps that side has more resources to build more bridges. Great, you can continue building bridges forever... whoooptie do. Of course that is driven by a fundamental need for access to more basic resources, like food, but that simply extends your life. Why? you have spent it building bridges to get more food to build more bridges to get more food, then you still die.
There must be something along the way that makes it worthwhile, or else the whole thing is so incredibly uninteresting save the suffering along the way which itself just makes the whole thing worse.
The pillowcase example actually allows me to go a bit deeper into the psychology, since the reason wasn't initially evident. At first it seems disconnected from basic needs, which of course makes it interesting. What then, is the need? It seems to bely a reason, a purpose greater than prolonging your own suffering by extending your life. Obviously you want to understand, perhaps to sympathize and be moved yourself in a new and meaningful way... Then you realize it is simply about cleanliness. Cleanliness of course being a way to avoid illness which will extend your life so that you can clean more things and then you still die anyway.
Obviously this is a terrible way to think, but it's something that I feel relatively alone with. Thats why its so interesting to see the author illustrate this pathalogy so well. I used to alarm those around me by going a day or two without eating or sleeping for little to no reason. Not once or twice, but fairly often. I was simply not motivated to do so. Even that is here in the story.
The focus on women at a young age as well. There I have a lot to say... though I've already rambled enough, I'll wager literally nobody ever reads far enough to see these last few words anyway.
@@bschneidez I read it
@@bschneidez read it as well lol. Btw that's an interesting interpretation(to me at least) of how you saw this story and connected to it.
just to focus on a small part of the pathology that you’ve brought up, I hold a different perspective on the whole “build a bridge to get more resources to build another bridge” connection to living one's life. While reading your comment I thought about how I interpret this sort of outlook on the idea of limited mortality and found myself thinking this: While yes, our whole lives may seem to be a repeating loop of building bridges and gathering resources, what you neglect to consider is the idea of beginnings while only focusing on endings. We don’t have a choice on if or when we are born, only when we will die. And because of this, it’s pointless to think about what the purpose of life is if we can’t even fathom why it is that we were brought into a state of conscious existence in the first place. I believe that once we shed the concept that “we were born for one reason (building the bridge)” and repeat that action till we die, that is when we’re free to start living our lives. We are all limited by our own minds and I find that evident by your comment on how hard it is to find meaning in your life except for the suffering before the inevitable end. This is one of the most common outlooks on life from many people who suffer mental illnesses like depression and it’s something that took me - a person who does not suffer from depression- a long time to understand how people could think this way. I find it very interesting and very sad because it guarantees that people with depression will likely never recover from the illness because, at its roots, depression causes depression. It’s an illness that feeds on its host and grows indefinitely because of the effectiveness of its impact. This is all super tangential and I hope you don’t take any of it negatively because my intention is purely out of genuine interest in your opinion and viewpoint. I’ve not read a comment in a long time which made me question my own thoughts on a psychological or mental subject like this one. I hope that if you currently feel some way that you don’t want to or are trying to change your view on reality and mortality in any way that you’re able to do so. And if you’re happy with how you feel about your state of being, that you can continue to do so.
@@bschneidez I kind of get where you're coming from but I think you also neglect anything but the most fundamental and core thoughts to something and neglect the worlds of nuance outside of it. As someone who has been in a place where a bridge was something I had to kind of cobble together (living in the woods) sometimes you make the bridge because you don't want to get wet on the way to visiting somewhere you want to go or because you might hurt your ankle or mess up your shoes with mud which is just going to make more misery for yourself. Or maybe you like building bridges so you build bridges because you enjoy it technically or artistically. It is something people need AND want its not just about resources but about expanding your life in some way. But then your core problem seems to be that no argument is going to click because you don't see a point to life and don't generally want things much. So the whole "we do it because we want things" point might be unavoidably lost on you I suppose.
I think you're trying to logic meaning out of existence when that's quite literally the exact wrong way to go about it. Its confusing because you mention you find things interesting when they don't have a purpose but you're also seemingly obsessed with finding the purpose of things and the thing that interests you just gets drowned as an afterthought. So its like you're laser focusing on things you yourself find inherently uninteresting or stimulating so its kind of not surprising you don't have a good time. Like why spend all your energy on this and then just dying? Would you not say it would be more interesting to make art with no purpose or just focus on doing things with little to no practical sense to them? Making bridges somewhere no one needs one over ground that doesn't require a bridge. Why not lean into the nonsensical that couldn't ever possibly have a point and revel in it see if that doesn't free your brain up from this frame of thinking because there is no purpose to question beyond it being purposeless. You could decide on your own that the point to your life could be exploring the unnecessary and the unreasonable as an art and as a way of life. You make the reason you do things yourself and maybe your own justification for why building bridges makes sense is that without them existing you wouldn't have had this thought. Not to keep your feet dry, not to visit someone, not to get more resources but so you could have this thought and these questions and that's the meaning you've drawn from building bridges. It doesn't have to make sense to anyone else as long as you can find fulfillment from your thoughts and actions
For a man who is such a sweet, lovely guy, Junji Ito writes the stories that scare me the most, The Enigma of Amigara Fault *properly* messed me up.
... he also wrote his Cat Diary which has me cackling with laughter EVERY. DAMN. TIME. What a guy.
Junji Ito did not write this. Osamu Dazai did. Ito just drew the panels.
@@ToxicMutantz yeah… we know. debra is probably talking about ito’s manga in general terms.
I think what hit me the hardest, is that, despite how horrible the events were. The whole time, I felt bad for him. Start to end.
The fact that you don't write a script is crazy! You are very talented at what you do. I have never read this genre and tbh at first I was going to pass this video up because I thought I wouldn't be interested. However, the way you told about it hooked me in immediately and before I knew it, more than 45 minutes had gone by! So, you are incredibly good at this and it was very coherent :) Excellent job!
From the beginning of the story, I figured the author had to have authentically felt that way at least a little in order to delve so deeply into the mindset. I can relate to it a bit, aside from the addiction, women throwing themselves at him, and how deep the depths of despair reach. It's like all of the darkest thoughts I've had put together in one story. As for the "he was an angel" part, I think that's what the author was like in his head, but his anxieties prevented him from showing that person to the world. He didn't want to disappoint anyone or become one of the monsters he saw, but in the end, the depression, loneliness, and hopelessness consumed him like the waters of the river.
Never abandon hope. Life is a cycle; there will always be good times and always be bad times. Make sure you're there for the good ones.
Reading this story was such a hard read. I remember finishing it and i cannot stop thinking about for days at home, school and anywhere i was.
junji ito did a good job with this one, i think. definitely not his usual style but i honestly like how he handled ig. dazai was a very sad and talented man, and i do kindof wish he could read this version; ito brings yozo to a very logical end, and allowing him and dazai to exist with each other and validate each other is. beautiful. there are pieces that feel "disrespectful" but ultimately it feels like a letter to dazai. that "i see you and you were horrible and you were beautiful and you are your creation and you are separate people and you are best friends and you put each other through hell"
Wendigoon uploads are always a pleasure. The research and topic selection are some of the best on the platform
What happened to this comment section?
@@myhopeyourhopej-hope9913 at this point I’m not even gonna read comments anymore they’re absolutely horrible.
@@cMind607 it’s new people saying “I can’t believe he doesn’t use scripts” and bots
I didn't find this story to particularly disturbing.
The main reactions I had were moments were I wished to give the writer perspective, to teleport to them in person and bring a sense of clarity, and I felt also importantly, integrity.
Yup.... exactly
I love how you link both Ito and Osamu's craft together, and how Ito does his original work justice. It reminded me of this one interview i remember him doing for Manben Manga, and one of the things i remember him discussing with the host urusawa naoki was how he puts bizarre details on a page. He noted that he emphasizes the realistic details to his manga communicate a ridiculously unbelievable story in a believable manner,, "otherwise, it would just be a ridiculous story." which is why i liked that you highlighted that the the monsters and terrible concepts that junji ito depicts in this version are People.
but also, the amount of detail he goes into depicting something that's real, and the effort to show this creation of a character meet it's Real Person counterpart, its creator, is a skill that showcases both of these artists' range. truly couldn't have done it better or more terrible, as you say :)
I'm actually surprised you don't write scripts, the way you talk in your videos always seems so eloquent to me
you can get better at this by learning and practicing the use of big words that sound nice, and then practicing tough reading
the latter activity is as follows
get a book youve never read. open to a random page. begin reading out loud
now read a different rando passage backwords
now read a different rando passage super fast
now read a different rando passage with a pen in your mouth (perpendicular to your tongue, between your tongue and top teeth)
now mix and match those on various random passages
we do this in debate to prevent stuttering, and allow us to both employ and enunciate, with a desirable level of consistency and frequency, a massive vernacular, with swiftness and eloquence.
also dont use big/multisyllable adjectives to describe a small word
i.e.
"extremely good"
"extensively dumb"
"fantastically smart"
etc.
it just sounds stupid. horribly stupid. atrociously unintelligent, not "extremely dumb". one of my biggest pet peeves.
@@cherrybramble this is fantastic, i appreciate all the advice, man! refraining from using long words to describe short words is a very interesting technique and one i will never be able to forget about now that i've read it hahaha. congratulations, you've infected my brain 🙆
If you have an outline with a few notes you don't really need to write a script, you just have to be good at keeping on task and talking
i suppose its natural for a actual teacher to be good at narrating when your whole goal is draw in a persons attention
as a bungo stray dogs fan, this video connects a lot of dots for me
I love this book so much cuz it's not plainly depressing. It's so layered for such a short read. It's weirdly cathartic for someone like me with depression. It made me feel heard and understood? And it actually helped me heal a wee bit more :)
I was really preparing for a tear-jerking story, when I came to a realization that refused to let any tears come: This is just how one of my friends views the world. I have a friend like Dazai in my life, and I know how helpless it feels to see their worldview and not know what to do about it. The only thing there is to do is just love them. Hearing someone else talk about how tragic this story is when I can recognize it in someone I love so much really stuck a pin in my heart.
The book itself is a presentation of himself, allowing the reader to make a decision on if he qualifies to be human. The final line is hope that, in spite of everything, they will.
Mine has been a life much shame. I can't even imagine what it's like to live the life of a human being.
You are one
I recently discovered this book after watching an anime adaptation of it about a week ago, so I bought the book to read myself, and there's something about the book I feel like not many books about someone struggling with mental health have been able to really do.
When Yozo mentions his deep social anxiety as well as this overwhelming need to please others, there's a point to it that I really related to. Honestly? It's a brilliant book and I was honestly shocked to see you talk about it! Amazing video as always ^o^
What’s the anime adaptation? And do you know where I can find it?
@@Annyfist Aoi Bungaku, it's an anthology of other famous Japanese literature works by the way! I personally couldn't find it anywhere officially but it can be viewed on less...supportive streaming sites like Kissanime, Gogoanime, etc.
i read this book sometime last month and I fear I was too hasty during my reading. I was too quick to judge it and after watching this video I have decided to revisit it. I believe my initial judgement of the book is incredibly unfair to Dazai. When you revealed that the book lined up with events in his life, I burst into tears. I want to give him the respect he deserves. Thank you
I played this game "Alter Ego" and it was full of books and actually had this book in the game!(credited to Osamu Dazai, not Junji Ito) From the excerpts in the game, this book was very very sad.
There were quite a few books in the game and it let me get a list of books I want to read. (Most were Japanese books but it was still cool)
i thought i was the only one who first find this book from that game, I'm glad i'm not alone :D
Love that game. Great story too.
Alter ego has actually showed me a lot of books that I’ve probably would have never even known about!
Where can I play or get this game? Thanks
@@fluid8888 its a mobile game, so you can get it for free on phone/tablet. theres a bit of paid dlc but no microtransactions. its a great game, i highly recommend it!
"Hurt people hurt people / Broken people break people". Yozo, or the real author in that case, probably suffered from some severe kind of personality disorder, maybe even mixed with autism too, and taking into account how he was raised ever since he was a baby until the beginning of adulthood, that could explain why he was alwys so detached from humankind.
dazai's book has been my all time favorite for years. when i first read it in high school, i tried so hard to find discussion on it. thanks for making this.
Very much enjoyed this analysis. Makes sense to me that Ito would adapt this. He draws inexplicable monsters. It’s essentially about a monster. If a monster is the antithesis of humanity, then Yozo is one. A monster trapped in a world he doesn’t understand, unable to communicate.
It’s so sad that the author didn’t have access to the mental healthcare we have today. I wonder if medication or other interventions could have saved him.
This hits kinda like The Bell Jar. The book ends on a hopeful note. Sylvia Plath tragically took her own life one month after publishing her novel as well. It’s a heavy read but I recommend it for those that can stomach themes of suicide.
We had to read for that for college lol but yeah it's a good read
@@verity_amo lol is that for real? I wonder what course do you take and where u r
@@reniebrila1390 quit tryna get my personal info fam 😳
@@verity_amo oh not really, im so sorry if it seems that way. Im just intrigued that some teachers really require their students to have a take about a suicidal book.
Its night time here btw and im trying to scare myself to sleep lol.
@@reniebrila1390 I'm kidding lol, but yeah it was part of my english lit course a few years back, had to write fanfic based on a minor character from it too
love what you said about Ito understanding Dazai
Dazai is not only highly praised, but also scorned; i’ve seen jabs before about “people only read Dazai so they seem interesting” kind of stuff
no matter what, the fact remains that the man was tortured, likely increasing with each failed suicide attempt
the way Ito managed to fuse the man’s life with his work is astonishing; the way some artists pay their predecessors is inspiring to say the least, no matter how tragic
it’s ultimately comforting that Japanese storytellers refuse to shy away from stories like this, from subject matter as vile and awful as this; no matter how horrible, stories/works like these deserve to be told/shared as much as any other
love that you powered through it, you poor blessed soul
When I was In sixth grade, a girl in my class read this book and now I understand why she never acted normal after
what a powerful look into mental illness. growing up, i always thought depression was just someone being really sad, but i soon grew up to experience it and learn that it's not being sad, it's being devoid of feelings altogether. you live your life based on how others feel, rather than having your own sense of self, wearing what others want to see, rather than what you want to be. i was privileged enough to escape that mindset before it took my life, something a lot of people in the same position couldn't. listening through this made me feel connected, and somewhat gave me a lot of hope and gratefullness for the fact that i'm still alive.
As a diagnosed sociopath this story spoke to me in a way I cant describe. Learning about this really made me feel understood in a way I have never felt. Thank you Wendigoon i will always remember and hold dear this moment. You and this video made me feel understood.
I feel the same way. Not sociopath but as a schizoid adaptions kind of person. I can't describe it in words, the story just feels like what it's like to be schizoid
Enjoying every second of your videos... What an amazing discovery your channel has been!
I am so happy to see you doing a video about No Longer Human as I have had such a morbid fascination with the book and author. (even did my dissertation on it, comparing the work with Yukio Mishima's 'Confessions of a Mask) The book should definitely be talked about more as it could be discussed endlessly in my opinion.
omg i’d love to read your dissertation lol
I love confessions of a mask too! Have you noticed how often the concept of a "mask" has shown up in Japanese literary works? There's no longer human, confessions (these two were written a year apart!), and another I've read called "The Face of Another" by Kobo Abe, in the 60s. And I'm sure there are others that I've not read. A more current example might be Oyasumi Punpun, which gave me VERY similar vibes to No Longer Human, with double the depression (somehow). Just curious to hear your thoughts on it as someone who's read both of those books.
and AGREED. It's nice to see a bigger creator shine a spotlight on it.
@@abbeyh I would love to share it with you if I’m able to find it in the depths of my computers lol
@@KanadaJin couldn’t agree more. The themes of desperation to hide one’s true self in fear of how others will perceive you is so raw and even relatable at some parts. So much anguish can be felt in these books that can only really make you wish for the authors peace of mind.
And yes Punpun is a great recent example of these types of work which indeed has the same dark and cynical vibes as no longer human, both creating a pure sense of hopelessness.
Minus the indifference to harm coming to others, I relate a lot to the Yōzō's struggles and the concept of maintaining a mask and his sentiments about society. Genuinely fascinating stuff.
Same here...
K.
My life has basically been the same as his, except for any of the women, money, or drugs, so even more pointless and empty. That's why I didn't find the story particularly disturbing on it's own, but Ito's art that gave it unsettling vibe that everything he draws has.
@@RoguSpanish "my life has been his but all the bad stuff is literally not there so im doing fine"
@@magmamouse7270 I wouldn't call coming from money and easily attracting women bad stuff.
I didn’t have time to feel sad or depressed because lots of this story was way too relatable
I’m already home. 🟡
I think sadness is my default state, so stories like this feel like comfort 💙
idk dude I think anyone who has ever had crippling anxiety and self exist thoughts on a daily base for 10 years (like myself) doesn't find this story too terrifying because we are living it/lived it. But it's nice that it horrifies those, who were lucky enough to not get as low as we did. To me this just sounds like a quick summary I would tell my new therapist.
Thank you for this. Even though this is extremely depressing, hearing you talk about it made it alot easier to take in and by the end even made me happier to hear about the life of a artist being memorialized like this I guess? I don't know exactly how to word it but knowing his story and how its impacted the world nowadays in some way brings me a grand sense of belief and self somehow.
At 50:58, right when Wendi goon said "I wouldn't have talked about any of that if if wasn't for this:" I got hit with an ad for Sunday football hosted by UA-cam, perfect comedic timing for such a devastating story
I can’t believe you made me watch a video this long and my eyes were glued in the screen. Great job
I really love junji ito work, a lot of his manga make life seem less tragic and more normal. I would love for my life to be put on to paper or illustrated. I saw the title 'No Longer Human' and being cut off from humanity and that is exactly how I feel.
When I was 13, my sister from a bystander perspective became a quadraplegic in an instant and lost all of her memories over 3 months. Over the span of a few weeks, she was just like any normal person to the state of when people are born without any functions. All of this while still being conscious of what was happening until her consciousness of her past life disappeared. Hospitals in my country did not know what was happening so they kept pushing around to other hospital departments, all while she was stuck at home, because they couldn't find what was wrong with her. Without a diagnosis in my country, social care is pretty much unavailable. So as a 13 year old, I had to drag her body around my house. Near the beginning of her transition, her vocal cords became paralysed and she could only wail at us unable to move any limbs. She cried in the beginning at the fact she was becoming trapped in her body, until she lost her memories of what a normal life was like and just accepted having to wail for basic needs. We had to use charades to communicate with her, and she eventually forgot most words outside of the basics of 'toilet', 'eat' etc. She would cry each time we gave her a bath, because I had to hold up her head so she wouldn't drown. I never told a soul about the experience when I was going through this. The first time I tried to tell someone it was my gym teacher, because I had forgotten my gym kit. I could only tell her my sister was sick, I didn't know how to describe the hellish experience. She then proceeded to tell me her friend was going through cancer and that life is just hard but she's getting through that so, so can I. After, this incident a month later, my sister suddenly went to sleep and woke up full body paralysed and could only blink.
I say I feel like I'm no longer human and that I'm cut off from humanity, because I know I have mental health issues, but everywhere I see 'support' with people with mental health issues or government help for people, I know it doesn't include me, that's for people with traumatic experiences that have representation in media. My experiences have been so dark, I would never see it in a movie, on the news, any message boards and I have tried to feel less alone. Just feeling so different to people around me makes me feel non human. I get scared of close relationships because I think people will go paralysed and lose their souls.
Did they ever figure out why?
@@GibbousTT Stress killed her brain and body.
i wish that you find some comfort from someone or something. what a tragic experience. i can only imagine the darkness that must be plagueing you. i hope that somehow, some way you can find some joy. I pray that you find some good in this messed up world.
What country are you from?
@@bobdollaz3391 the UK.
for me its odd, I dont feel exactly horrified or scared or disgusted
but I very much understand the main character and the original author
I understand why there may be some hypocrisy, and understood his view of other humans (sometimes agreeing with what they say) I feel as if I had the same position when I was a teenager and when i was a misanthropist
I wasnt exactly sad or feeling terrible at the ending
I felt like I can relate to them, it didnt feel horrifying to me
it felt comforting, it is therapy
yozo sounds EXACTLY like Jerrod Murray; completely devoid of emotion or motivation for anything, only participates in activities because they're just "something to do". this immediately raised red flags for me.
I just finished the novel last night. Half way through the last notebook and I was on the verge of tears. Just a heaviness pushing down on me. When I finished it I just felt so empty. I won't be reading this book again (aside from Ito's adaptation), but I'm really glad I did read it.
Thank you so much for making a video about this, I've loved every second. Mind health problems never get the awareness they deserve. Thank you.
ok
I love you, you handsome, spooky bastard.
Seriously. You're so thoughtful, entertaining, open minded but principled, and really know how to humanize subjects and highlight how interesting they are. You're the kind of person I wish I had more friends like.
Book: No Longer Human - Dazai Osamu
Manga: No Longer Human - Junji Ito, originally from Dazai Osamu
Anime: Dazai Osamu, Ability _ No Longer Human - Bungo Stray Dogs (An Anime Full Of Japanese Writers)
I read the manga by junji ito and was wondering why I was so sad yet confused. Now when you describe the novel and the manga adaptation together I am finally putting those missing pieces together. This is a terrifying story. I didn’t know that it was based on the author of the novel and my god how terrible of a world he walked through. If only he got the help then that everyone has today. I pray he’s resting in peace.
I find the themes and style of this story to be very similar to several of Dostoevsky's books; specifically, I was reminded of Notes from Underground, Poor Folk, and, of course, Crime and Punishment. The idea of having a protagonist whose world view is so different and darker than your own, then following that protagonist through tragedy and instability in their life, is both a fascinating thought experiment and an examination of the human condition from a perspective that many readers will never experience firsthand. Thanks so much for covering this novel and making us aware of it!