Thank you so very much for emphasizing the importance of evaluating nutrients over ingredients. I found you through AnimalDocRea's channel a few weeks ago. In the time since discovering you two I've gone down the proverbial rabbit hole researching cat food. Question for you on this latest review...the protein of Raised Right is significantly higher than the upper limit of the optimal range. Isn't this problematic? From my (admittedly) limited research, unless a cat is VERY active such excess protein will cause undue kidney stress and, over time, possibly result in renal failure. Also, the inclusion of spearmint (organic or otherwise), although apparently safe in small amounts, is concerning. Digging into the food formulations a bit more it appears that "pet food formulation expert" Steve Brown is not a veterinarian nor has he received any particular training or certifications in the area of animal nutrition rather his credentials are simply that he is a nutritional researcher. Please correct me if I'm missing something.
First, yes, the higher protein is somewhat concerning but usually the main concern of the extra protein is the phosphorus that comes with it. So yes high in protein but if its a normal or younger cat, probably not an issue. the cat will convert that protein to energy because it isn't getting energy from carbs. second, interesting about Steve Brown. i need to research that more since the nutrient numbers are so good. thanks for some great feedback. Sorry I can't answer better than that!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Thank you for the reply and further education on the matter. As I said, I'm still trying to learn. This is so very helpful! And regarding Steve Brown, I found it very interesting as well.
Thank you so much for pointing this out regarding spearmint. I totally missed it. Very frustrating to constantly have to research every single ingredient these companies put in there - never ending battle.
I'm so glad I found your channel! I would love to see a review on Zignature. From what the website states, they are WSAVA guidelines compliant and I would love to see how the nutrition stacks up against the other top brands.
@@itsbutters69 I think I need to do that one next. J knew this WSAVA compliance was going to be the next scam. Just like so many things, it started out as a good idea but like everything, companies are going to twist and obscure the facts to b CB maim they are compliant. Farmers Dog is claiming the same thing. It’s just another way to keep the conversation away from the actual nutrition in the food! Anything in g but nutrients!!!!
Thank you so much for researching all of this. And, please, be as nasty as you want in your videos because we just want to hear the truth! Don't listen to these people that are giving you a hard time, we as pet owners only want the best for our pets. So thank you gain for all the good information!!
Great video! First of yours I’ve seen. Spot on about Smalls’ website! It was infuriating. My bf fed his cats this when I moved in and so I switched my cat to it as well along with Purina Liveclear for allergies. I was shocked when I found out the price and could barely find anything online about their ca/phos content ratio which was my main concern. Right now their wet food is a mix of Wonderbound canned and homemade prepared with Alnutrin eggshell calcium. I can’t say I feed homemade for their health but for my budget 😅
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy it works amazing! My dad is extremely allergic too and can visit without any issues and has even pet the cats on occasion which he hasn’t done since he was teenager. The only downside is how expensive it is: $80 for 16lb bag of the basic chicken ($80 for 12lb of any specialty bags). Quality control isn’t great either since our newest bag the kibble size was literally double, almost like dog food, and there’s added colors which I’m not a fan of. But it works wonders and fast too. Usually within a month they’re allergy free.
Mr pet food puzzle , i so appreciate your channel. I love hearing another aspect. Im that person who thinks and listens to what these holistic vets and the rachel types promote and that raw and or whole foods is the preferred way. Or at least add to dogs diet some. But its great from you on the other hand focusing on nutritional value and knowing all the big mainstream commercial foods are not all poison. ❤. My senior dog 15 1/2 years old taste buds changed last year , (use to eat anything) but now she will only eat some of the kibble i would had NEVER bought, the low cost supposed bad stuff ....but i do integrate some other things, including whole foods i may cook and raw meal at night in her 3 meals a day. I feel so much less guilty feeding her the kibbles she likes when i do feed kibbles to her. Of course common sense the most important thing is she eats, and what she likes her appetite is great.
According to your logic you both should be ok with humans eating feed grade food if there is no difference, so obviously there is a legal difference but you'd need to be a lawyer to understand...
@@JohnDoe-vm5pc well I think we like the perception of human food being under the supervision of the FDA, but to be honest I have little faith in any govt agency. And the real point is the mineral content in the meat and its effect on the balance of the diet. Most human grade companies have excessive mineral content so what’s the benefit of human grade? If the mineral levels are low than the quality is high, whether human grade or feed grade.
@@JohnDoe-vm5pc lol! Actually, Hills Feline MD for diabetes is so close we joked it’s Mouse Diet! Simply, a cat food with optimal protein( not high) and restricted minerals like calcium, phosphorus, sodium, magnesium will drastically reduce the risk of kidney disease and urinary stones. And a food that controls urine pH to 6.2 to 6.4 also helps reduce urinary issues. Canned offers more moisture which is helpful. I have a few videos showing some comparisons. We all are just trying to do our best.
8:09 - Spearmint contains vitamins A and C, and has calcium, copper, iron, magnesium, and zinc - so that would be my guess on why it is included - as well as being a GI calming fiber. That said, my understanding was that spearmint is toxic to cats and dogs, both.
I wouldn’t buy a food that bashes the legacy brands to try and sell their foods simply because I feel their food should sell itself if it’s good. If they have to bash or lie about their competitors to sell their foods, that’s wrong… just wrong. It’s not sound advertising. Point out your good points, facts only, if you want to sell me
Stephanie, our friend George said the same thing about Farmina. I can’t disagree but there’s so few foods with healthy nutrients levels, I need to feature them when I find them! Sad but true.
Stephanie, our friend George said the same thing about Farmina. I can’t disagree but there’s so few foods with healthy nutrients levels, I need to feature them when I find them! Sad but true.
Stephanie, our friend George said the same thing about Farmina. I can’t disagree but there’s so few foods with healthy nutrients levels, I need to feature them when I find them! Sad but true.
Yes we have a few companies here in Australia that do this. To me that's a flat out NO. But i do get why Glen did this video.. not many cooked or raw that have decent nutrient levels. Unfortunately, a lot of people can't see past the marketing and fancy ingredients. they never even consider nutrients or quality of ingredients.
Hi Glen, Your thoughts please. I’ve been following you and Dr Rhea….im so undecided, Currently we give our dog Purina ProPlan Sensitive Skin and Stomach kibble and canned food….I’m thinking of giving Farmers dog as the wet food topper and possibly switching kibble too. Just undecided. Kibble is about $68 dollars with canned food $41 trying to keep costs the same.
Why switch? Issues? There is no need for a topper besides palatability. The food is giving your pup everything they need. I hear lots of positive reports on folks feeding that food. If no issues I see no reason to switch.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy thank you for that….its what we’ve been feeding our last 2 dogs prior and one of the vets at the practice we use feeds her Sheperd the same. Thank you for your quick responses
Happy Mewsday. A positive video, YAY! Chicken heart is muscle meat. It contains almost as much taurine as liver. Here's a t-shirt for you, "My Quibble is Kibble." I do not hate kibble. Generally, for a healthy adult cat, a properly balanced, safely prepared homemade food will be better for a cat than commercial wet food. Wet food is better than kibble. High quality kibble is better than a lower quality kibble. Whatever a person feels is best for their cat, and what the cat will eat, is what should be used. I would never tell someone what to feed their pet. If commercial food had not made both my cats sick, Colbie on Fancy Feast, Panda on everything, I would probably still be feeding it. That was over a year ago. I do feed them a wet food on occasion.
Thanks for what you do and your expertise on pet nutrition is greatly appreciated. By the way good job on looking healthy and dare I say buff, lol anyways keep it up 💪🏽❤
I want to buy cat food, not feed. Chicken, Whole Grain Wheat, Corn Gluten Meal, Powdered Cellulose, Chicken Fat, Wheat Gluten, Chicken Meal, Chicken Liver Flavor, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Calcium Sulfate, Lactic Acid, Fish Oil, Potassium Chloride, Iodized Salt, Check out the first four ingredients! Corn gluten meal is an ingredient in weed killer. Cats dont need wheat, corn. Period. 🤷🏼♀️ Powdered cellulose?? Please. Ingredients are important. Cats need meat. Fact.
Some carnivores, called obligate carnivores, depend only on meat for survival. Their bodies cannot digest plants properly. Plants do not provide enough nutrients for obligate carnivores. All cats, from small house cats to huge tigers, are obligate carnivores. ☝️Now please look at the ingredient list up until Salt: Chicken, Whole Grain Wheat, Corn Gluten Meal, Powdered Cellulose, Chicken Fat, Wheat Gluten, Chicken Meal, Chicken Liver Flavor, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Calcium Sulfate, Lactic Acid, Fish Oil, Potassium Chloride, Iodized Salt, Corn gluten meal is an ingredient in weed killer. Cats - obligate carnivores, do not need corn or wheat. Just stop - corn is a good ingredient Baaaahaha Not.
EXACTLY! The production facilities for "human grade" are USDA inspected to human food standards, according to AAFCO there is no legal definition for "human grade food" but this is lawyer double speak, there is certainly different standards set for these production facilities, if there was no legalities ALL pet foods would say "human grade", You are being disingenuous.
I agree it’s all lawyer double speak but I don’t follow you how I’m being disingenuous. Sorry! Each company has a standard they go by. I’m having a senior moment but maybe it’s on Hills website but they follow human standards and meet American Baking something or other standards.?! Sorry, not my area of expertise. But we can agree there is no doubt a vast difference in standards company to company. I can tell you the vet companies don’t have the common contaminations of protein sources like over the counter foods due to more diligent cleaning practices.
How can you be so-called science based if you never cite any specific research but spout the same trite line about nutrient profiles regardless of QUALITY of what goes into the food???? 😂
Thank you for this video. I am in the process of emailing and calling company's here in England UK. When I ask for the phos and cal values I sometimes don't get the details I want. I have found these company's bella and duke kibble Phosphorus(Minerals) 53.9500 mg per 100gr Calcium(Minerals) 9.4500 mg per 100gr Edgard cooper wet caned cal 0.2 DMB Phos 0.2 DMB Lily's kitchen wet canned shredded fillets 1% phos
I asked again with Edgard cooper as there was doubt over the very numbers.I got different figures were this time and they said it was wrong before.. Its not so good. Phos: as fed (cat chunks) : 3.10 g/ kg = 0.31g/100g As Fed = 1.72 g/100g Dry Matter Ca: as fed (cat chunks) : 4.30 g/kg = 0.43g/100g As Fed = 2.39 g/100g Dry Matter
Glad to find someone who looks at science and not personal belief.
Thank you so very much for emphasizing the importance of evaluating nutrients over ingredients. I found you through AnimalDocRea's channel a few weeks ago. In the time since discovering you two I've gone down the proverbial rabbit hole researching cat food. Question for you on this latest review...the protein of Raised Right is significantly higher than the upper limit of the optimal range. Isn't this problematic? From my (admittedly) limited research, unless a cat is VERY active such excess protein will cause undue kidney stress and, over time, possibly result in renal failure. Also, the inclusion of spearmint (organic or otherwise), although apparently safe in small amounts, is concerning. Digging into the food formulations a bit more it appears that "pet food formulation expert" Steve Brown is not a veterinarian nor has he received any particular training or certifications in the area of animal nutrition rather his credentials are simply that he is a nutritional researcher. Please correct me if I'm missing something.
First, yes, the higher protein is somewhat concerning but usually the main concern of the extra protein is the phosphorus that comes with it. So yes high in protein but if its a normal or younger cat, probably not an issue. the cat will convert that protein to energy because it isn't getting energy from carbs. second, interesting about Steve Brown. i need to research that more since the nutrient numbers are so good. thanks for some great feedback. Sorry I can't answer better than that!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Thank you for the reply and further education on the matter. As I said, I'm still trying to learn. This is so very helpful! And regarding Steve Brown, I found it very interesting as well.
Thank you so much for pointing this out regarding spearmint. I totally missed it. Very frustrating to constantly have to research every single ingredient these companies put in there - never ending battle.
I'm so glad I found your channel! I would love to see a review on Zignature. From what the website states, they are WSAVA guidelines compliant and I would love to see how the nutrition stacks up against the other top brands.
@@itsbutters69 I think I need to do that one next. J knew this WSAVA compliance was going to be the next scam. Just like so many things, it started out as a good idea but like everything, companies are going to twist and obscure the facts to b CB maim they are compliant. Farmers Dog is claiming the same thing. It’s just another way to keep the conversation away from the actual nutrition in the food! Anything in g but nutrients!!!!
Thank you so much for researching all of this. And, please, be as nasty as you want in your videos because we just want to hear the truth! Don't listen to these people that are giving you a hard time, we as pet owners only want the best for our pets. So thank you gain for all the good information!!
Oh, I'm fine with people giving me a hard time or I wouldn't do this! Besides, I know they mean well. Besides, you catch more bees with honey.
Great video! First of yours I’ve seen. Spot on about Smalls’ website! It was infuriating. My bf fed his cats this when I moved in and so I switched my cat to it as well along with Purina Liveclear for allergies. I was shocked when I found out the price and could barely find anything online about their ca/phos content ratio which was my main concern. Right now their wet food is a mix of Wonderbound canned and homemade prepared with Alnutrin eggshell calcium. I can’t say I feed homemade for their health but for my budget 😅
Thanks! Just curious if the Purina Liveclear helped.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy it works amazing! My dad is extremely allergic too and can visit without any issues and has even pet the cats on occasion which he hasn’t done since he was teenager. The only downside is how expensive it is: $80 for 16lb bag of the basic chicken ($80 for 12lb of any specialty bags). Quality control isn’t great either since our newest bag the kibble size was literally double, almost like dog food, and there’s added colors which I’m not a fan of. But it works wonders and fast too. Usually within a month they’re allergy free.
@@snowlocke1342thanks for the info. Might have my daughter and son in law try it. He’s allergic to the cat.
Mr pet food puzzle , i so appreciate your channel. I love hearing another aspect. Im that person who thinks and listens to what these holistic vets and the rachel types promote and that raw and or whole foods is the preferred way. Or at least add to dogs diet some. But its great from you on the other hand focusing on nutritional value and knowing all the big mainstream commercial foods are not all poison. ❤. My senior dog 15 1/2 years old taste buds changed last year , (use to eat anything) but now she will only eat some of the kibble i would had NEVER bought, the low cost supposed bad stuff ....but i do integrate some other things, including whole foods i may cook and raw meal at night in her 3 meals a day. I feel so much less guilty feeding her the kibbles she likes when i do feed kibbles to her. Of course common sense the most important thing is she eats, and what she likes her appetite is great.
Jbrown, some eggs as a treat are great for a senior healthy dog. My Bella loves them.
Keep doing what you are doing. Your heart is in the right place. There's always going to be negative people out there, just stay true to yourself.
Thank you!
According to your logic you both should be ok with humans eating feed grade food if there is no difference, so obviously there is a legal difference but you'd need to be a lawyer to understand...
@@JohnDoe-vm5pc well I think we like the perception of human food being under the supervision of the FDA, but to be honest I have little faith in any govt agency. And the real point is the mineral content in the meat and its effect on the balance of the diet. Most human grade companies have excessive mineral content so what’s the benefit of human grade? If the mineral levels are low than the quality is high, whether human grade or feed grade.
I just want the best cat food possible, I wonder what the phosphorus content of a mouse is, lol.
@@JohnDoe-vm5pc lol! Actually, Hills Feline MD for diabetes is so close we joked it’s Mouse Diet! Simply, a cat food with optimal protein( not high) and restricted minerals like calcium, phosphorus, sodium, magnesium will drastically reduce the risk of kidney disease and urinary stones. And a food that controls urine pH to 6.2 to 6.4 also helps reduce urinary issues. Canned offers more moisture which is helpful. I have a few videos showing some comparisons. We all are just trying to do our best.
It's so good to find one that meets all the check boxes!
Was starting to wonder!
Another good video, I think I'll stick to what I'm feeding though. Don't be too nice, people just want everyone to agree with them these days.
thanks! I have never been too nice!
8:09 - Spearmint contains vitamins A and C, and has calcium, copper, iron, magnesium, and zinc - so that would be my guess on why it is included - as well as being a GI calming fiber. That said, my understanding was that spearmint is toxic to cats and dogs, both.
Interesting!
I wouldn’t buy a food that bashes the legacy brands to try and sell their foods simply because I feel their food should sell itself if it’s good. If they have to bash or lie about their competitors to sell their foods, that’s wrong… just wrong. It’s not sound advertising. Point out your good points, facts only, if you want to sell me
Stephanie, our friend George said the same thing about Farmina. I can’t disagree but there’s so few foods with healthy nutrients levels, I need to feature them when I find them! Sad but true.
Stephanie, our friend George said the same thing about Farmina. I can’t disagree but there’s so few foods with healthy nutrients levels, I need to feature them when I find them! Sad but true.
Stephanie, our friend George said the same thing about Farmina. I can’t disagree but there’s so few foods with healthy nutrients levels, I need to feature them when I find them! Sad but true.
Yes we have a few companies here in Australia that do this. To me that's a flat out NO.
But i do get why Glen did this video.. not many cooked or raw that have decent nutrient levels.
Unfortunately, a lot of people can't see past the marketing and fancy ingredients. they never even consider nutrients or quality of ingredients.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuydo u like farmina, are their nutritional aspects excellent?
Thanks for reviewing Smalls. My cat loves Hills!!
She loves variety, but Hills is her favorite.
Hi Glen,
Your thoughts please. I’ve been following you and Dr Rhea….im so undecided, Currently we give our dog Purina ProPlan Sensitive Skin and Stomach kibble and canned food….I’m thinking of giving Farmers dog as the wet food topper and possibly switching kibble too. Just undecided. Kibble is about $68 dollars with canned food $41 trying to keep costs the same.
Why switch? Issues? There is no need for a topper besides palatability. The food is giving your pup everything they need. I hear lots of positive reports on folks feeding that food. If no issues I see no reason to switch.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy thank you for that….its what we’ve been feeding our last 2 dogs prior and one of the vets at the practice we use feeds her Sheperd the same. Thank you for your quick responses
Happy Mewsday. A positive video, YAY! Chicken heart is muscle meat. It contains almost as much taurine as liver. Here's a t-shirt for you, "My Quibble is Kibble." I do not hate kibble. Generally, for a healthy adult cat, a properly balanced, safely prepared homemade food will be better for a cat than commercial wet food. Wet food is better than kibble. High quality kibble is better than a lower quality kibble. Whatever a person feels is best for their cat, and what the cat will eat, is what should be used. I would never tell someone what to feed their pet. If commercial food had not made both my cats sick, Colbie on Fancy Feast, Panda on everything, I would probably still be feeding it. That was over a year ago. I do feed them a wet food on occasion.
Ed, my shirt would have to say “I have no kwibble with kibble!” lol!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Would your shirt have a picture of Elmer Fudd? Hunting kwazy wabbits? LOL
@@edschulhof6303 I think a shirt showing Cars Are Cornivores would be great!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Still CORN-Y! LOL
Thanks for what you do and your expertise on pet nutrition is greatly appreciated. By the way good job on looking healthy and dare I say buff, lol anyways keep it up 💪🏽❤
Mojo, thanks for the compliments!
I want to buy cat food, not feed.
Chicken, Whole Grain Wheat, Corn Gluten Meal, Powdered Cellulose, Chicken Fat, Wheat Gluten, Chicken Meal, Chicken Liver Flavor, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Calcium Sulfate, Lactic Acid, Fish Oil, Potassium Chloride, Iodized Salt,
Check out the first four ingredients!
Corn gluten meal is an ingredient in weed killer.
Cats dont need wheat, corn. Period. 🤷🏼♀️
Powdered cellulose?? Please.
Ingredients are important.
Cats need meat. Fact.
Corn doesn't hurt cat's
Ugh realized I spelled Dr Rea name wrong
Theresa, I’m sure she won’t mind!
Taco Bell uses grade D meat
I will keep that in mind, the next time I take my cats out for Taco Tuesday.
Ed, definitely species appropriate!
😂
Some carnivores, called obligate carnivores, depend only on meat for survival. Their bodies cannot digest plants properly. Plants do not provide enough nutrients for obligate carnivores.
All cats, from small house cats to huge tigers, are obligate carnivores.
☝️Now please look at the ingredient list up until Salt:
Chicken, Whole Grain Wheat, Corn Gluten Meal, Powdered Cellulose, Chicken Fat, Wheat Gluten, Chicken Meal, Chicken Liver Flavor, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Calcium Sulfate, Lactic Acid, Fish Oil, Potassium Chloride, Iodized Salt,
Corn gluten meal is an ingredient in weed killer.
Cats - obligate carnivores, do not need corn or wheat.
Just stop - corn is a good ingredient Baaaahaha
Not.
still waiting for that review on Redford Naturals Chicken & Rice food, which is made directly for Pet Supplies Plus franchise.
Jason, sorry! I need to do that one!
thank u!!!
EXACTLY! The production facilities for "human grade" are USDA inspected to human food standards, according to AAFCO there is no legal definition for "human grade food" but this is lawyer double speak, there is certainly different standards set for these production facilities, if there was no legalities ALL pet foods would say "human grade", You are being disingenuous.
I agree it’s all lawyer double speak but I don’t follow you how I’m being disingenuous. Sorry! Each company has a standard they go by. I’m having a senior moment but maybe it’s on Hills website but they follow human standards and meet American Baking something or other standards.?! Sorry, not my area of expertise. But we can agree there is no doubt a vast difference in standards company to company. I can tell you the vet companies don’t have the common contaminations of protein sources like over the counter foods due to more diligent cleaning practices.
How can you be so-called science based if you never cite any specific research but spout the same trite line about nutrient profiles regardless of QUALITY of what goes into the food???? 😂
Listening this guy is ONE BIG SCAM😂
Rip, you’re a few videos behind. You’ll like the one I just posted!
Thank you for this video. I am in the process of emailing and calling company's here in England UK.
When I ask for the phos and cal values I sometimes don't get the details I want.
I have found these company's
bella and duke
kibble
Phosphorus(Minerals) 53.9500 mg per 100gr
Calcium(Minerals) 9.4500 mg per 100gr
Edgard cooper
wet caned
cal 0.2 DMB
Phos 0.2 DMB
Lily's kitchen
wet canned
shredded fillets 1% phos
I asked again with Edgard cooper as there was doubt over the very numbers.I got different figures were this time and they said it was wrong before.. Its not so good.
Phos: as fed (cat chunks) : 3.10 g/ kg = 0.31g/100g As Fed = 1.72 g/100g Dry Matter
Ca: as fed (cat chunks) : 4.30 g/kg = 0.43g/100g As Fed = 2.39 g/100g Dry Matter