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I love listening to Rupert Sheldrake. His lack of ego and arrogance is so refreshing. His explanations are clear and easily understood. He is soothing 😊.
Years ago when I was first out on my own I couldn’t afford long distance calls. When I wanted to talk with my mom, who was 1500 miles away, I would just concentrate on her calling me and she would nearly always call within several minutes. No one can ever tell me people can’t influence others over hundreds of miles with our minds.
One time, while meditating, I was shown a breathtaking vision - a thin black curtain with millions of tiny pinholes, separating us from the all-encompassing, loving white light that represents our collective essence. On the other side of the curtain, I saw countless tiny light beams, symbolizing individuality and separateness. The vision revealed that when one light beam grows brighter, it illuminates those around it, creating a wave of light. This profound experience moved me to tears, and I was left with no words to describe its vividness and impact.
I love Sheldrake's work, thank you for having him on. One critical remark:at around 10:40 he says that most people would say that telepathy is real. I would disagree; I think most people do experience telepathy (as in, say, the phone call example), but most would deny it as such and call it a coincidence, since they trust science (or rather, the scientistic and materialistic worldview) more than their experience and intuition.
May I just say that I commend you, the interviewer, for articulating your beautiful thoughts about 'time' at around the 1:00:00 mark. That's a very difficult chair to be in, speaking such personal thoughts to such an eminently learned man as Rupert. I was praying for you as you spoke. Because, I believe God can answer prayers outside of time. I hope He would be pleased to bless the words spoken by you and those spoken by Rupert to your mutual edification. I believe the words in this wonderful interview will prove life-giving as the tone of the interview on both sides was so very childlike. I say that as a big big compliment. And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them and said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. > < I already loved Rupert. And now Im pleased to meet you.
Towards the end the conversation went into the subject of money and boy is that a massive practical subject, I have thought about this subject for years and researched it too and for what it is worth (and I could talk about this for days however....) money to me has a magical element to it and where as numbers usually describe the amount of things we have (and they don't have to be physical any more just think about music and records) with money, the numbers have by and large become the very thing that they are accounting for, and the different currencies are just numerical ratios between either each other which gives rise to the foreign exchange markets or between gold and the currency that is being taken into consideration, I would just like to add, I am a humble electrician but I know that even though using physical cash for small transactions is a good thing to do please don't forget that physical cash in the modern world was printing on a electrical machine, so I say to people your money is generated and maybe that extends to your life too
Het werk van Rupert Sheldrake ontdekte ik in 1993 tijdens een serie TV gesprekken in het programma Een schitterend ongeluk, geleid door Wim Kayzer (1946-2023). Hij ontmoet Oliver Sacks, Stephan Jay Gould, Stephen Toulmin, Daniel C. Dennett, Rupert Sheldrake en Freeman Dyson. Het gelijknamige boek is (nog steeds) een aanrader, in mijn beleving.
Jaaa mooi! Ik doe nu een cursus parapsychologie en daar komt ook het een en ander van Rupert in terug. Ik ben nu inderdaad aangekomen bij het hoofdstuk over telepathie bij dieren. Het boek dat hij noemt, wordt daarin ook als bron gebruikt. Ik denk ook dat wetenschap en levensbeschouwing of spiritualiteit, religie, magie, ecologie etc. Allemaal heel veel met elkaar te maken hebben. Alleen we hebben denk ik allemaal andere talen, methodes en gebruiken ontwikkeld om wat er in het leven gebeurt te kunnen verklaren. Omdat de moderne wetenschap zo belangrijk voor ons is geworden, bepaald dat denk ik veelal onze culturele identiteit. Ik denk als je wetenschappelijk kunt aantonen, dat dit soort dingen bestaan, mensen ineens ook meer begrip zullen krijgen voor elkaars versie van de werkelijkheid. Hopelijk gaan we dan zien dat we allemaal aspecten waarnemen van het grotere geheel en dat er ook veel mysterie is, dat onbekend voor ons is. Dat we veel meer op één lijn zitten dan we denken en dat onze verschillen elkaar aanvullen.
Mooie aflevering,... waar ik het niet mee eens ben is Rupert's stelling dat er niet genoeg grond zou zijn om meer ruraal te gaan leven,... Het verenigd koninkrijk beschikt over een grondoppervlakte van 242495000000m2 delen we dit door de 68 miljoen inwoners dan komen we uit op 3566m2 per persoon, deel dat door 2 voor de wegen en de overige infrastructuur, dat is erg ruim, dan nog kom je op 1783m2 per persoon een gezin van vier heeft dus 7132m2 ter beschikking... of maak ik een denkfout?
Wonderful closing advice; make a pilgrimage. We moved to the south of France recently and the first (and only) trip we made so far was to Lourdes. An experience beyond my expectation. (Ben nederlander maar mijn taalswitch stond nog op engels)
I heard a earthquake before it hit while i was sitting in my room, it was about 2am, I was sitting and thought i could hear this vibration but it was behind my ears, like bone conduction this left to right sweep of vibrations then started to resonate at the centre of my brain and at that exact point there was a earthquake. But 2 weeks before during a very mild shroom trip, -1g tea, again very mild just felt very relaxed for a while, now while sitting in my room was when i first had the bone conduction experience but when the 2 vibrations started to resonate I closed my eyes and something like a ripple in a pond in reverse then formed the picture or more like put me in the moment, on a mountain looking at a huge elephant with a beautiful huge tree with pink leaves in a big pot on it's back, everything had golden aura/glow, the noise continued then it all faded away as quick as it appeared, i have had a LOT of experience with mushrooms and that was a new one for me, felt like a gift not a thought and the fact this happened again while sober with a earthquake is just wild.
I just thought the other day that every consciousness evolves... Cats for instance, are certainly more respondent in 2023 that they were in the 1970's. When i was a kid they ate crappy hard cat food, hung around on the peripheral of the family furniture, caught mice, and occasionally crapped on the carpet. Now in 2023, my cats send messages to me through their behavior, respond to my emotions and communicate their needs for attention and even boredom. So that got me thinking that the collective consciousness... I dare suggest even the concept of an ultimate original creator consciousness...GOD...has evolved over billions of years also. The "behavior" of the big bang was intense, immediate, impatient per se. Evolution and observation and invention are connected. For instance, Gods first experience was exclusively and infinately the feeling of loneliness. From that he gained the observance of aloneness, the feeling of loneliness, of loving - being love...but unaable to give it and share it to celebrate the joy of another. No wonder it was not good for man to be alone... Then he had a short temper for awhile... until he experienced the natural consequences of anger and acting out...(wrath) (separation) (hence more loneliness) By the time he decided (oh bla bla bla the generations of unruly descendants of David and the frustrations his self-absorbed 'chosen children ' brought on even after he gave them a tablet of guidelines to living together in love....) God was personally getting patient..(only way to LEARN patience is to BE patient...right!?) He evolved to the point of love and patience to create his son to personify his ultimate intention to bring each soul/part/creation of being (of love) unconditionally back into the oneness of love ...without loneliness. He /she whatever...will continue to evolve as will every consciousness ever existing. Hmmm....comments?
Tijdboek, thank you for this. I was interested in your remarks about the orthodox scientific position in relation to identify. It was by examining the essence of identity and immediate experience of life one day that belief in these dogmas suddenly collapsed.
It brings a smile to hear one of my favorite people quote my favorite physicist (Bohm) at 17:04 Besides his humility and creative mind, Rupert never fails to make me laugh, . "So after the war their wouldn't have been any blue tits that still remembered the golden age of free cream before the war..." :D
Open-system and open-architecture quantum peacemaking can force humans to turn away from killing and destruction into actively making peace prevail everywhere.
It is important to ask whose best interest is served with this paradigm of mechanistic materialism? Who does it most benefit to keep it at this level above and beyond practical things like keeping jobs, papers and books written? Let’s go deeper to a more profound understanding of who benefits?
I clearly understand that the methodology Rupert``s studies are based on needs to be statistical, peer reviewed double blind double fold etc etc for him to debate with the comfortably numb soci ety....So he dont want to be associated with crystal balls hokuspokus pseodo-science that only seeks magical profits. but genuine esoteric traditions , vedic, egyptian, tibetan etc do have accumulated knowledge about this spiritual bodies call them aetheric,astral, bioplasmic,
Waardevol gesprek, integraal denker Ken Wilber zou hier ook echt nog een goede aanvulling op zijn. Wat betreft tijd en het universum is Nassim Haramein een goede.
A FANTASY OF MINE: Rupert Sheldrake and Richard Dawkins share an evening together on any of the following: DMT, Ayauasca, or LSD, many the first two more than the last one. (Dawkins, I hear, is very afraid of trying any of these things, but I think would do him some darn good to help shake off some entrenched ideas that are beginning to look rather dusty)
Is a morphogenetic field used by growing entities like memes are used formally by teachers eho meed to provide for their pupils a pedagogically beneficial cocstantness of semantically discoverable ostensive definition for each new word naming a distinct new concept , so that their pupils can more easily establish useful habits for transmitting to each other intended meassages the have sociel effects with predictably(?) beneficial societal effects ?
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I love listening to Rupert Sheldrake. His lack of ego and arrogance is so refreshing. His explanations are clear and easily understood. He is soothing 😊.
I have bought Ruperts books over the years....the "Science Delusion" is a wonderful introduction to his ideas...
Rupert Sheldrake is indeed a prophet for our time, and thank God for him, and for you and your programme LuMens
I love Rupert's mind and the way he thinks, so many people would benefit by just listening to him and taking the time to reflect on what he says
Years ago when I was first out on my own I couldn’t afford long distance calls. When I wanted to talk with my mom, who was 1500 miles away, I would just concentrate on her calling me and she would nearly always call within several minutes. No one can ever tell me people can’t influence others over hundreds of miles with our minds.
Or even across death.
Yeah, sure.
One time, while meditating, I was shown a breathtaking vision - a thin black curtain with millions of tiny pinholes, separating us from the all-encompassing, loving white light that represents our collective essence. On the other side of the curtain, I saw countless tiny light beams, symbolizing individuality and separateness. The vision revealed that when one light beam grows brighter, it illuminates those around it, creating a wave of light. This profound experience moved me to tears, and I was left with no words to describe its vividness and impact.
I love Sheldrake's work, thank you for having him on. One critical remark:at around 10:40 he says that most people would say that telepathy is real. I would disagree; I think most people do experience telepathy (as in, say, the phone call example), but most would deny it as such and call it a coincidence, since they trust science (or rather, the scientistic and materialistic worldview) more than their experience and intuition.
Dr Rupert Sheldrake never fails to impress with his erudition, insightfulness, candour and authenticity. A truly great thinker and a wonderful man!
I love listening to Rupert a scientist that I can understand and makes so much sense
Wonderful thankyou really learned alot pilgrimage what a fantastic thing to do
Fenomenaal dat het je gelukt is deze man voor de camera te krijgen. En ook bedankt! 🙏
May I just say that I commend you, the interviewer, for articulating your beautiful thoughts about 'time' at around the 1:00:00 mark. That's a very difficult chair to be in, speaking such personal thoughts to such an eminently learned man as Rupert.
I was praying for you as you spoke. Because, I believe God can answer prayers outside of time.
I hope He would be pleased to bless the words spoken by you and those spoken by Rupert to your mutual edification. I believe the words in this wonderful interview will prove life-giving as the tone of the interview on both sides was so very childlike. I say that as a big big compliment.
And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them and said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
> <
I already loved Rupert. And now Im pleased to meet you.
Merci pour cette interview.
Ich bin begeistert von diesem sehr tiefen und interessantem Gespräch, Danke❤
Thanks so much! Lovely interview. I'll listen to Rupert Sheldrake any day of the week!
Well done ... More than anything Rupert Sheldrake inspires questions that grow in importance with every new insight
Thank you for making these concepts available so understanding can multiply and faith in the future will expand
Great interview! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Towards the end the conversation went into the subject of money and boy is that a massive practical subject, I have thought about this subject for years and researched it too and for what it is worth (and I could talk about this for days however....) money to me has a magical element to it and where as numbers usually describe the amount of things we have (and they don't have to be physical any more just think about music and records) with money, the numbers have by and large become the very thing that they are accounting for, and the different currencies are just numerical ratios between either each other which gives rise to the foreign exchange markets or between gold and the currency that is being taken into consideration, I would just like to add, I am a humble electrician but I know that even though using physical cash for small transactions is a good thing to do please don't forget that physical cash in the modern world was printing on a electrical machine, so I say to people your money is generated and maybe that extends to your life too
Excellent discussion! Refreshingly sane.
Great interview. This has opened my mind to amazing new thoughts and possibly traditions.
Dank je wel, dat jullie dit voor elkaar hebben gekregen. Hier ga ik een paar keer voor zitten✨
Het werk van Rupert Sheldrake ontdekte ik in 1993 tijdens een serie TV gesprekken in het programma Een schitterend ongeluk, geleid door Wim Kayzer (1946-2023). Hij ontmoet Oliver Sacks, Stephan Jay Gould, Stephen Toulmin, Daniel C. Dennett, Rupert Sheldrake en Freeman Dyson. Het gelijknamige boek is (nog steeds) een aanrader, in mijn beleving.
Thank you!
wonderful!!!
Dankjewel voor deze mooie, bijzonder, en verhelderende podcast Rupert en Ferdinand. 🙏🪷💜
Thanks so much to both of you xxxx
Our pleasure!
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Amai dat moet wat zijn met zo'n heer te converseren, grote fan van jou en Lumens uit Vlaanderen (B), de max♥
Thank you! 🙏 ❤
Waanzinnig mooi, deze episode! Hartelijk dank hiervoor
Socks with sandals..if that's not the biggest dude lebowskian fashion statement....I LOVE IT!
Wat een ontzettend mooi gesprek weer ❤
Briljant! Dit schittert alle kanten op als de langverwachte Blue Kachina! Grandioos, mijn dank hiervoor is onuitspreekbaar!
Jaaa mooi! Ik doe nu een cursus parapsychologie en daar komt ook het een en ander van Rupert in terug. Ik ben nu inderdaad aangekomen bij het hoofdstuk over telepathie bij dieren. Het boek dat hij noemt, wordt daarin ook als bron gebruikt. Ik denk ook dat wetenschap en levensbeschouwing of spiritualiteit, religie, magie, ecologie etc. Allemaal heel veel met elkaar te maken hebben. Alleen we hebben denk ik allemaal andere talen, methodes en gebruiken ontwikkeld om wat er in het leven gebeurt te kunnen verklaren. Omdat de moderne wetenschap zo belangrijk voor ons is geworden, bepaald dat denk ik veelal onze culturele identiteit. Ik denk als je wetenschappelijk kunt aantonen, dat dit soort dingen bestaan, mensen ineens ook meer begrip zullen krijgen voor elkaars versie van de werkelijkheid. Hopelijk gaan we dan zien dat we allemaal aspecten waarnemen van het grotere geheel en dat er ook veel mysterie is, dat onbekend voor ons is. Dat we veel meer op één lijn zitten dan we denken en dat onze verschillen elkaar aanvullen.
I don't say this cheaply. This may be the best interview of all time.
Erg inspirerend! Thanks 😊
Thank you for the English
Bedankt voor dit mooie interview!
Dank je wel voor het fijn en waardevol gesprek! 💗
Mooie aflevering,... waar ik het niet mee eens ben is Rupert's stelling dat er niet genoeg grond zou zijn om meer ruraal te gaan leven,... Het verenigd koninkrijk beschikt over een grondoppervlakte van 242495000000m2 delen we dit door de 68 miljoen inwoners dan komen we uit op 3566m2 per persoon, deel dat door 2 voor de wegen en de overige infrastructuur, dat is erg ruim, dan nog kom je op 1783m2 per persoon een gezin van vier heeft dus 7132m2 ter beschikking... of maak ik een denkfout?
Wonderful closing advice; make a pilgrimage. We moved to the south of France recently and the first (and only) trip we made so far was to Lourdes. An experience beyond my expectation.
(Ben nederlander maar mijn taalswitch stond nog op engels)
I heard a earthquake before it hit while i was sitting in my room, it was about 2am, I was sitting and thought i could hear this vibration but it was behind my ears, like bone conduction this left to right sweep of vibrations then started to resonate at the centre of my brain and at that exact point there was a earthquake. But 2 weeks before during a very mild shroom trip, -1g tea, again very mild just felt very relaxed for a while, now while sitting in my room was when i first had the bone conduction experience but when the 2 vibrations started to resonate I closed my eyes and something like a ripple in a pond in reverse then formed the picture or more like put me in the moment, on a mountain looking at a huge elephant with a beautiful huge tree with pink leaves in a big pot on it's back, everything had golden aura/glow, the noise continued then it all faded away as quick as it appeared, i have had a LOT of experience with mushrooms and that was a new one for me, felt like a gift not a thought and the fact this happened again while sober with a earthquake is just wild.
I am learning a lot 😊
I just thought the other day that every consciousness evolves...
Cats for instance, are certainly more respondent in 2023 that they were in the 1970's. When i was a kid they ate crappy hard cat food, hung around on the peripheral of the family furniture, caught mice, and occasionally crapped on the carpet. Now in 2023, my cats send messages to me through their behavior, respond to my emotions and communicate their needs for attention and even boredom.
So that got me thinking that the collective consciousness...
I dare suggest even the concept of an ultimate original creator consciousness...GOD...has evolved over billions of years also. The "behavior" of the big bang was intense, immediate, impatient per se. Evolution and observation and invention are connected. For instance, Gods first experience was exclusively and infinately the feeling of loneliness. From that he gained the observance of aloneness, the feeling of loneliness, of loving - being love...but unaable to give it and share it to celebrate the joy of another. No wonder it was not good for man to be alone...
Then he had a short temper for awhile... until he experienced the natural consequences of anger and acting out...(wrath) (separation) (hence more loneliness)
By the time he decided (oh bla bla bla the generations of unruly descendants of David and the frustrations his self-absorbed 'chosen children ' brought on even after he gave them a tablet of guidelines to living together in love....)
God was personally getting patient..(only way to LEARN patience is to BE patient...right!?)
He evolved to the point of love and patience to create his son to personify his ultimate intention to bring each soul/part/creation of being (of love) unconditionally back into the oneness of love ...without loneliness.
He /she whatever...will continue to evolve as will every consciousness ever existing.
Hmmm....comments?
It sounds good to me, but how can you become rich with it?
Hummm right.
Looks interesting will watch it today.
Tijdboek, thank you for this. I was interested in your remarks about the orthodox scientific position in relation to identify. It was by examining the essence of identity and immediate experience of life one day that belief in these dogmas suddenly collapsed.
It brings a smile to hear one of my favorite people quote my favorite physicist (Bohm) at 17:04
Besides his humility and creative mind, Rupert never fails to make me laugh, . "So after the war their wouldn't have been any blue tits that still remembered the golden age of free cream before the war..." :D
I think a Forest Therapy (forest bathing) walk is like a short pilgrimage.
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Open-system and open-architecture quantum peacemaking can force humans to turn away from killing and destruction into actively making peace prevail everywhere.
It is important to ask whose best interest is served with this paradigm of mechanistic materialism? Who does it most benefit to keep it at this level above and beyond practical things like keeping jobs, papers and books written? Let’s go deeper to a more profound understanding of who benefits?
Bedankt voor dit mooie gesprek.
Alleen één dingetje:
Sokken in sandalen dragen is not done😊
Nee inderdaad, ..tegenwoordig moeten dat badslippers zijn ipv sandalen 😂😂😂. Nog erger 😝
I do it.
On the socks in sandals thing...
it's a regular staple of my attire.
Love you Rupert. Please breathe. I can't listen.
I like David Bohm's Implicate Order best. Maybe because I understand it, can visualize it.
Lovely to hear you RS. What's your book on Shells behind you on your shelf?
Socks and sandals, the great English upper class institution.
👍👍✌️🙏☯️
I clearly understand that the methodology Rupert``s studies are based on needs to be statistical, peer reviewed double blind double fold etc etc for him to debate with the comfortably numb soci ety....So he dont want to be associated with crystal balls hokuspokus pseodo-science that only seeks magical profits. but genuine esoteric traditions , vedic, egyptian, tibetan etc do have accumulated knowledge about this spiritual bodies call them aetheric,astral, bioplasmic,
Waardevol gesprek, integraal denker Ken Wilber zou hier ook echt nog een goede aanvulling op zijn. Wat betreft tijd en het universum is Nassim Haramein een goede.
A FANTASY OF MINE: Rupert Sheldrake and Richard Dawkins share an evening together on any of the following: DMT, Ayauasca, or LSD, many the first two more than the last one. (Dawkins, I hear, is very afraid of trying any of these things, but I think would do him some darn good to help shake off some entrenched ideas that are beginning to look rather dusty)
Whats with Willow trees then?
Just putting a willow cutting in a jar with practically any other plant cutting roots form from the willows presence.
Sounds interesting. Would you kindly elaborate? Thank you.
Is "Artificial Intelligence" really intelligent? Try asking one! 🤔(Green Fire UK) 🌈🦉
Rule number one: never meet your hero’s 😂
Haha ja dat was wat 🙈
Is a morphogenetic field used by growing entities like memes are used formally by teachers eho meed to provide for their pupils a pedagogically beneficial cocstantness of semantically discoverable ostensive definition for each new word naming a distinct new concept , so that their pupils can more easily establish useful habits for transmitting to each other intended meassages the have sociel effects with predictably(?) beneficial societal effects ?
The hot air of Rupert Sheldrake.
Yes ,and this hot air is uplifting
@@RobertaPeck For balloons, not people.
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