Rupert Sheldrake - On Scientism, Morphic Resonance and the Extended Mind | Episode 204
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2024
- Rupert Sheldrake is a biologist and author of 9 books and over 100 scientific papers. A critic of what he sees as the scientific establishment’s dogmatic dedication to materialism, he is perhaps best known for his theory of “morphic resonance,” via which information and activity can be transferred across space and time. Rupert joins the show to discuss being branded a heretic, how to test for telepathy, his advice for young scientists, and MUCH more!
Important Links:
- Rupert’s Website - www.sheldrake.org
- Rupert’s Banned TED Talk - www.sheldrake.org/reactions/t...
- The Science Delusion - www.sheldrake.org/books-by-ru... by Rupert Sheldrake
- A New Science of Life - www.sheldrake.org/books-by-ru... by Rupert Sheldrake
- Dogs That Know When Their Owners Are Coming Home: And Other Unexplained Powers of Animals - www.sheldrake.org/books-by-ru... by Rupert Sheldrake
- Is The Sun Conscious? - www.sheldrake.org/files/pdfs/... by Rupert Sheldrake (Journal of Consciousness Studies)
Show Notes:
0:00:00 Intro
0:00:57 The Apostate of Scientism
0:08:34 The Origins of Scientism
0:17:03 How to Achieve a Phase Change in the Sciences
0:24:59 Testing for Telepathy & Incentivizing Intuition
0:31:41 Structural Resistance to Panpsychism
0:35:24 When Science Gets Personal
0:46:50 Loosening the Grip of Determinism
0:56:00 Advice for Young Scientists
1:01:35 Rupert as Emperor of the World
Books & Articles Mentioned:
- The Science Delusion; by Rupert Sheldrake
- New Science of Life; by Rupert Sheldrake
- Dogs That Know When Their Owners Are Coming Home: And Other Unexplained Powers of Animals; by Rupert Sheldrake
- Is The Sun Conscious?; by Rupert Sheldrake
- The New Inquisition: Irrational Rationalism and the Citadel of Science; by Robert Anton Wilson
- Rationality: What It Is, Why It Seems Scarce, Why It Matters; by Steven Pinker
- The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature; by Steven Pinker
- Entangled Life: How Fungi Make Our Worlds, Change Our Minds and Shape Our Futures; by Merlin Sheldrake
- The End of Faith; by Sam Harris
- The Fifth Science; by Exurb1a
- What the Tortoise Said to Achilles; by Lewis Carroll
- Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance; by Robert M. Pirsig
- The (Mis)Behaviour of Markets: A Fractal View of Risk, Ruin and Reward; by Benoit B. Mandelbrot & Richard L. Hudson
- The Structure of Scientific Revolutions; by Thomas Kuhn
i love Rupert Sheldrake, wonderful independent thinkers bringing us out of the dark ages .. thank God we have wonderful Rupert and his extraordinary family❤
A banned Ted Talk! Another badge of infinite honors!
Sheldrake is the man. Simply because on top of his huge brain 🧠 he’s not a greedy liar like the other
That comes along with the badge of pseudoscience bs
@@EsdrasOlivaresPcmasterrace Agreed, He's not Ted talk material. Rupert isn't acting as a scientist here but as a form of supernatural theorist. He thinks naturally occurring cosmic energy is conscious. It's pseudo science at its best. He's just pleasant about it.
All major discoveries are from the out of the box thinkers , Religion is still suppressing truth 🤦🏻♂️
@@EsdrasOlivaresPcmasterrace Well the same could be said for science, it appears to be a construct of the mind from ancient times so I don't think they are different in quality... Thoughts Vs Thoughts changes nothing.. so ye nice try
I had a strong telepathic experience about 40 years ago. I was travelling in England. At the time it was very expensive to call my mother in Australia so I would ocassionally write to my mother. One night, I was woken up with a terrible feeling that I had to ring home. I asked the people whom I was staying with if I could use their phone as it was an emergency. Something I would never do normally. Anyway, I called my mother, who quickly answered the phone. She said, " I am so glad you got my message", I said "what message?" She said that she had been willing me to call her as there was a disaster at home that she had to tell me about!!! Odd, it happens a lot with my son and I, too.
We live in a collective. It's just transferring energy, but energy with information. It happens to many people. It's natural and a part of sensing danger during evolution.
I've had linked dreams with my mother who was in Texas and myself who was in England. Also, I had linked dreams with my now wife while sleeping in the same bed as her. Wild
My dog got up and walked around 5 minutes before my parents arrived home. I never thought it was strange. Neither did my dog.
I remember playing hearts or chess when I was a lad and purposely trying to conceal my thoughts, fearing my opponent would somehow know what I was going to do.
Another science major here who is excited about Rupert's ideas!! Bravo!
Dismantling dogmatism not easy but marvellous stuff..thankyou Rupert
I would argue it's quite easy. The foundations are built on sand.
Great conversation! I'm thankful for Rupert Sheldrake and his influence.
In 2020, I had an experience… an absolutely 100% unworldly experience. “IT” came into my body and remained for over three months. I’ll never ever forget awaking that lonely morning of April 16th “IT” was gone. My heart was broken. However, luckily for me, “IT” also came into physical form in order for my mother to see “IT” as well. The most beautiful thing I have ever seen or experienced in my life. Not to mention, the ambush downloads of information I received was even more phenomenal, beyond extraordinary… beyond any understanding we as people are taught. And the most important of it all was the Cosmos & Energy. “IT” is all one great big part of who & what we are. Be ready… 2024 is going to be wild folks… the transformation & complete metamorphosis of the Matrix has only just begun.
Amazing interview… Ty😉
science/conscience/omniscience
what was 'it'? please tell us 🩷
😮
escaped Plato's cave?
Tim?
I have a huge intellectual crush on Sheldrake as his maverick renegade scientific perspective and theories resonate so profoundly with my own deep intuitive understanding of reality and consciousness!!
Check out Aether cosmology channel, people are having these conversations about the edge of what we really know.
You are a simple fool! You prefer rubbish to serious science!!!
yes ! its interesting to me looking back on my life, how i often intuitively knew what the truth was, i rebelled against the lies of my british 'intellectual' culture but i didn't have the proof and the inner conflict drove me to do some extraordinary and dangerous things...like live for a year with peaceful mobile foragers , who consider telepathy a Tuesday morning! so glad for Rupert we are all so lucky to have him..the best of the english!
Pythagoras means Heart of the Serpent, he was born in Sidon, a fishing Port in Phoenicia. His mother recieved a message from the Oracle of Delphi that he would become a great Leader and Teacher. Sidon means Kingdom of the Fish, and the Essenes, who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls, worshipped Pythagoras. The Sarcophagus of Eschmun III found in Sidon names him as the Widow's Scion, aka Hiram Abiff, the Founder of Freemasonry, of which Tyre was the premier Capital (at least equal to Thebes).
In 911BC Rameses II married the Queen of Sidon, home of Jezebel (Daughter or consort of Baal, basically "Queen") founding Neo Assyrian Babylon, an alliance between Egypt and Hiram, father of Jezebel and King of Assyria, and Egypt, forming the Phoenician colonies and building the first Temple of Melqart to commemorate the alliance.
The Si in Sidon is the basis of the Latin Exe, or X, and is the basis of the Cross, or Chi Rho that Constantine painted on his shields. Also known as the Cross of Tyre, or Cross of Baal, being Ra-El, or Ba'El. Oddly enough irrational numbers can also be mapped using Euler's number, producing a Templar Cross in the process: a map of where Eclipses are most likely to occur. This cross can also be seen around the neck of Nimrod in Assyria, and is consistent with the Union Jack, and Solstice Calendar found in the Vatican Shiva Lingam.
Shiva is the Hebrew word for 7, their culture also found its way to Japan (via the Phillipines) ultimately becoming Shintoism.
It was the Phoenicians who gave their name to the Pole Star, which they used to Navigate the Oceans using the Zodiac, thats what the Antikythera mechanism was for, and with it they wrote the Byblos Baal, what we now call the Bible. The first form of the Bible was written in 325BC and called the Vaticanus Greacus, or Son of the Sacred Serpent, a reference to Sirius, the basis of the Sothic Calendar, which uses a Hexidecimal or base 60 system found in all the Megalithic sites around the world.
In the second century AD astronomer Valentinus Vettori transcribed it into a Lunar chart of 13 houses, what we now call the Zodiac. Horoscope means Star Watcher, and the Phoenician word for Saturn, or El, was Israel or El, (Fruit) of Isis and Ra. Alternatively El is the Father of Ra the Sun and Consort of Isis the Earth, aka El is the Moon.
El is the primary God of the Phoenicians, representing the offspring of Egypt, and his consort Astarte or Ishtar represents the Assyrian half of the alliance. It may be possible to trace lineages and alliances through the naming of gods, which can be traced all the way to Ireland and the Vikings, and to Indonesia and the Americas, even as far away as New Zealand and Australia.
It denotes Sirius as Son of Orion and Pleaides, which sits at 33 degrees of the Zodiac. The basis of the Sothic (dir Seth) Calendar of the Egyptians. The New Moon in this position marks Rosh Hashanah, the Egyptian, Celtic, Phoenician, and Assyrian New Year, the first New Moon of September, which is called September because it's the 7th House of the Zodiac, when the Sun is in Ophiuchus.
The Phoenix, Benben, or Bennu is the Egyptian word for Heron, a Feathered 'Serpent'. It baptised itself in frankincense and myrrh at BaalBek, and then alights atop the Pyramid, upon the Holy Grail, or Altar of Ra every 630 years to take three days off the calendar during the course of the first New Moon of Nisan, which means "Prince". The Capstone of Pyramids is even called the Benben or Bennu.
The Phoenix is found in all religions, which are all Astrological Allegory for the Moon travelling through the Constellations, as a soul migrating from body to body, this is the basis of Joseph Campbell's Monomyth, or the Hero's Journey. The various planets no doubt play their own roles as portents, omens, and aspects, this astrology is the science of the Bronze age, and lasted all the way up to the 20th Century. Reincarnation was an early teaching of the Christian Church, and likely relates to the lineage of Kings (The Pan is Dead, long live Pan!)
Phoenicians represent the interim step between Egypt and Greece, their artisans and culture exceeding that of the Greeks, who literally adopted the Phoenician Alphabet, which we still use to this day, sounding out words phonetically. Phoenician is aliiterated in Venetian, and Vikings, being Kings of the Sea.
The Bennu is the Egyptian Phoenix, to Phoenicians the Hoyle, no different to the traditions of the Etruscans, who saw birds as sacred, just as the Celts. Hebrew and Iber as in Iberia have the same root meaning over, as in overseas, as in those who travel "over the sea." A colony called Iberia also appears on the Eastern shores of the Black Sea, where the same Dolmens and Megalithic culture originating in Ireland and Brittany appeared circa 4500BC.
_Phoenician_ means Scions of the Phoenix, the first Bible: Vaticanus Greacus Son of the Sacred Serpent (Prince). Then there's the Essenes, Sons of Light, the Tuatha De Danaan, Sons of Light, Annunaki, Sons of Light, Arthur Pendragon means Arthur Son of the Dragon; Chertoff is Russian for "Son of the Devil" and Dracula also means Son of the Dragon, Masons have been known at times to call themselves the "Brotherhood of the Great White Serpent". The Ziggurat of Anu also denotes her as a great white Serpent, while New Grange and the Bru na Boinne in Ireland (4000BC) coated buildings with white quartz to denote the Moon. The Moon itself travels outside the Solar Elliptic by 5 degrees, which means it passes through specific constellations in a serpentine fashion that is always changing, but repeats every 19 years, the time it took to train a Druid or Magi, Magi meaning "Teacher" the Phoenix is also associated with this sacred number 19.
The name "Pharoah" means "Great House" or "House of Light" and Cairo used to be called Babel. Pharaoh's themselves wore a hooded crown representing feathers, just as Native American Chiefs, ie the Feathered Serpent, they were also called the Commander in Chief. Aztecs also had Serpent Kings, (Canaan means Serpent Kings, and Sidon was a Son of Canaan, and Great Grandson of Noah) who were called to lead with cunning and guile, being the very virtue by which they claim the title in the first place; but to be seen in public as just and diplomatic.
"As wise as Serpents, but gentle as Doves" the old Egyptian flag of an Eagle attacking a Snake is also reflected in the Modern Mexican flag, denoting the Constellations of Serpentis (13th sign of the Zodiac) and Aquila.
The dimensions and 12 mathematical constants of the Great Pyramid are also expressed in New Grange, and Stonehenge, as well as in Watson Brake, (2500BC) and Teotihuacan, which correlates to the Phoenician/ Sumerian Hexidecimal system, which is what our modern systems of time are based on. In fact it unlocks a kind of fractal pattern that is reflected throughout creation.
Officially no one knows who invented astrology, the zodiac, navigation by the stars, and time keeping. But whoever built the pyramids, and pioneered the 24hr clock in Egypt 5000 years ago also knew the exact dimensions of the Earth, as well as the speed of light. These calculations can all be made using these Megalithic sites as surveyors use a theodolite. Specifically Teotihuacan, which sits 180 degrees opposite Cairo, and has the exact same footprint. The ideal positions to determine the speed of light using the transit of Venus, by which one can accurately determine Longitude for navigation. Capt Cook did the same thing in 1774 when he 'discovered' Easter Island.
The only culture that fits the bill was wiped out "not one stone upon the other" by the Romans in 146BC. Tyre, the capital of Phoenicia (israel) sat just offshore from Uru Salaam: City of the New Moon, or City of Peace. The root of the name Jerusalem, and was also seized by Rome in 70AD after a 13 year seige. The gap between is 216 years.
Greek Dionysians built the Temple of Solomon (now called the Temple of Melqart) representing the Solar Lunar Metonic Calendar on which this system is based, they also carried mirrors, a practice associated with both the Magi and the Druids as well as Greek and Egyptian scholars, these Mirrors are Astrological charts called "Cycladian Frying Pans" and record the cycles of the planets. The first Temple of Melqart (the Phoenician form of Horus, or Hercules, or Pan, or Thor) representing the 13th Constellation of Ophiuchus or the Serpent Bearer (hence Orphic Serpent worship) had pillars of Emerald and Gold, representing Isis and Osiris. The Jerusalem Temple only took payment in "Shekels of Tyre" a currency minted during the Jewish rebellion against Rome. "Give that which is Ceasar's unto Ceasar"
When Alexander sacked Tyre in 332BC they moved to Carthage meaning "New City" or New Jerusalem, where they built a second temple with Pillars of Bronze.
Nebuchadnezzar also seiged Tyre for 13 years, taking the City captive in 573BC: the same time as the biblical account of the Jews. And again in 70AD after a three and a half year seige, also consistent with biblical accounts.
Palaset was the name of a tribe of the Sea Peoples, Pallas Set denotes the New Moon of Ammun Ra rising in Gemini, the Pallas Constellation of the Twins that stand before Orion. This occurs due West of the Temple of Solomon in Tyre between the Western Gates of Gibraltar, Gabriel's Altar, and is the basis of the name Pallastein, or Pallas Stone. As in the Philosopher's Stone or Holy Grail, Altar of Ammun Rah, the Rising Sun.
The Cross of Tyre or Ba'El ❌ represents the Lunar maximums and minimums and correlates with the Cross Quarter days of the Solstice Calendar. Align the Cross ❌ Chi Rho Christian ✝️ and Star 🔯 to the zodiac and you have a Compass and a timepiece that can be used to Circumnavigate the globe.
Wow, you're so humble too.
I love this discussion and especially about the animals. I have truly grown skills in the art of reading animals and have witnessed such profound beauty beyond words. Where we came from we didn't need words, we all used telepathy. We simply forget because of how heavy it is here. We are lightbodies here to cocreate balance restoring our connection with nature. Animals are incredible people too! ❤
i agree🩷 all the animals i have had the pleasure of feeding and loving have given me far more than i was able to give them ... the delusion and dogma of human superiority is just another form of supremacy... a madness to justify the exploitation of their bodies for profit .. i hope so much we will soon wake up and recognize the consciousness in human animals is the same consciousness in other species ..Dr Philip Lowe authored the Cambridge Declaration of animal consciousness 2012 at Cambridge University..he's a remarkable genuine scientist also
Some of the best people I’ve known have been cats.
@@trimetrodon yes and i spoke to a chinese doctor, a qigong master who could make fire in his palms, he said some cats are more spiritually advanced than people...
its a pretty low bar though
Thanks so much Mr. Rupert, for sharing your wisdom with us. I greatly appreciate it. Blessings!
Sheldrake is one of the few academics who have been able to honestly speak their minds. His ideas are worth considering. Morphic Resonance makes a lot of sense. We know sound can be used to make shapes. Sound has shape. It's not illogical to consider the idea that our existence is shaped by etheric vibrations. Perhaps Nikola Tesla's criticisms of Maxwell and Einstein point to the truth of the matter.
I’m a builder, this man blows my mind, great interview.
Me too mate.
Science wants to gatekeep but knowledge is for everyone.
I asked a dean of Chemistry at University of Michigan this question, Can anyone graduate from your program and NOT have group think? He paused and thought about and said NO, they must all think the same. It's the big money as you know.
Rupert is like a seed of being with all hes done for all he knows
What a wonderful talk. Thank you so much. I will subscribe in order not to miss part two. And i seriously hope that the science of life beyond death gains enough momentum for us to continually enjoy Rupert's brilliant mind and spiirit for many centuries to come.
Btw, O'Shaughnessy... Are you, sir, perhaps a descendant of another brilliant scientist, the one who was the first western doctor to scientifically research the incredible medical healing capacities of C. Sativa, after that ancient knowledge was lost to the west by burning its practitioners at the stake???
Anyway, thanks again to both of you.. This talk made the world sane again for the whole 1 hr and 7 minutes. Which is a huge accomplishment nowadays. I would happily listen for days in a row.
Flip it upside-down. Heal the broken and calm the schizophrenics. Honor the prophets. Protect the vulnerable. Listen. Worship at the altar of reality. Value authentic human connection and enable collaboration/cooperation. Respect all life.
Nature will take care of us when we take care of ourselves. ❤
What does ‘worship at the altar of reality’ mean? Please give real examples.
Celebration of co-creation. We are allowed to Be and Do differently ❤
@@christopherhamilton3621 I can only guess, but an example came to mind: Rupert's collected evidence is REAL. Instead of ridiculing him, scientists should flock to him in order to learn.
@@christopherhamilton3621 Tell the truth. As if your life depends upon your devotion to reality. Because it does.
@@hexxan007 The only people I see flocking to Rupert are the folk using his ideas as cognitive bias for their preferred beliefs. LOL!
Ive had experience with telepathy with my friend. We took a psychedelic called lsa (seeds of some sort) and went for a walk in the forrest, we sat down and my friend just asked me what do i see, and i saw with my closed eyes a purple saturn, then he started laughing and asked me to think of something and then i imagined a yellow lego block 2 by 3, he knew it before i told him in the same way i did the first time. We have repeated this over 12 times and just laughed our asses out. This is not "i hear your thoughts" kind of telepathy, its more like "i see what you mean". Something that T. Mckenna talked about. This is a true experience. If you dont believe in it, go and do your research on how to experience this kind of things. Psychedelics are great teachers and they will crush your model of reality, doesnt matter what you believe in. I am a recovered materialist, it took me satori to realize that basic "truths" that i knew about the world were just assumptions. 😂
I thought it was very kind of you to indicate that the TRUTHS you had been taught and accepted was just assumptions. Moving on from that, what I began to think after reading your comment was what a very famous autistic woman --whose famous work was with cows-- said: she sees pictures; she thinks in pictures and that's why she can understand animals because they think in pictures and she can see the picture in their mind and then she knows how to treat them or she knows what their fear is. WHAT you're speaking of is probably HOW we ALL as human animals thought long ago -- in pictures-- and we could transfer those pictures from One brain to another it wasn't that hard and we did it with ALL the animals that we lived among and even the animals that we had to kill to eat. Most of us have lost that ability to see and think in pictures and so we have lost that telepathy that was innate and immediate and pervasive in our lives and helped us stay centered &;stay unfearful, ie without fear, because we could see it in our brain before it even happened and maybe take steps to preclude it happening if it was something negative. 😶🌫️🤯💩🧠
My last text to a friend is usually all emojis 😉💭
@@LadyBug1967 And you know animals think in pictures exactly how?
@@christopherhamilton3621 SURE. A good question. I don't know PERSONALLY but Mary Temple Grandin wrote many books on this . SHE is a very HIGH functioning autistic woman and became a PhD academic and changed the behavior of people who dealt with animals being led to slaughter because she understood how they were thinking and how they were feeling. SHE said she thinks and feels the same way as these animals. I don't believe said all autistic people think that way as autistic people are on a huge scale such that some can't speak at and others are like President Nixon who was considered to be autistic.
@@LadyBug1967if nixon was autistic he has to be the worst representative possible for autism
Thoroughly enjoyed this beautiful conversation. Thank You Both So Much for sharing - Nga mihinui ⭐🐚
We need more DEBATES with Rupert. It's insane that someone this credible hasn't revolutionized all of science, and I believe the only reason is that he's not doing enough debates.
I know he's done a few over the course of his long career and many have refused to debate him but there's still plenty of opportunity for debating. It's the most important thing ever, it would save the world's soul.
What a great, energising chat to come my way. Thanks ❤
As an ex-Catholic kid, I say more power to those who fight their way out of dogma! Been there, done that. Far easier intellectually than emotionally.
Thank you Infinite Loops! Thank you Rupert! You are the Real Goat!
What a wonderful and interesting man, thank you for doing this interview
Rupert Sheldrake is a breath of fresh air in the asphyxiating atmosphere of nihilistic, materialism/reductionism. Thank you Rupert! 🙏
I love his ideas and follow his theories... Also what he says about institutinal science, I am sure many resonates with, even proud academic individuals...but all of them hide it inside for some reasons!
Yes i agree he inspired me in my research in the Erectile Deficiency Synopsis. Would you like to know what that is?
LOL!
Love this dude.
I will never forget one of my telepathic experiences: I was sitting with my younger sister and being the last two children of four we were very close . She said , I am thinking of a number between one and ten and then in an instant her thought came through my mind and my mouth bleeped out TEN ! The thought literally came through in some sort of auto mode ! It was as if I didn’t say it but she did !!! Very real!!!!
Once every 30 seconds, people's brainwave frequencies overlap and you have a window of telepathy. More likely to occur when the Earth's magnetic field is calm. Dr Michael Persinger is the ultimate source for telepathy research. He even open-sourced technology you can build at home that is proven to link minds and to quantum entangle photons at a distance. I suspect in your telepathic moment, you and she were sharing a space -- thru magnetism. Magnetism and time by the way are one thing. See Dr Todd Murphy's "consciousness arises as intrinsic property of magnetism". Paper and video. The key to the reality of morphogenic fields is given by Dewey Larson's Reciprocal Systems Theory of Space and Time. There are 2 hidden dimensions of time. Faster than light, where the Soul is located, and, say, Heaven. Etc
That reminds me of mine. I was sitting in my armchair, and suddenly, I blurted out 12 numbers . My cat rushed over and meowed . I then somehow knew I should say them again. I said them slowly and the cat would shake his head or lick a paw. I then somehow knew she was hungry. I went to feed her and the packet of food had a barcode and numbers. I couldn't believe it when I saw them. They were the same. I then put those numbers on the lottery but none of them came up. However, I watched the TV series lost and they were the coordinate s of the island . Mad but true. I can only assume that lost-my mind-the cat-and cat food box are somehow connected.
I think telepathy happens a lot between animals and humans.
But I have a different story which was a dream: I was living on an island in Crete and those were the days when there was a freedom and my friend and I were sleeping in a church because they left them open and they were tiny churches on these little hilltops. I had a chocolate chip cookie and I was pretty naughty cuz I didn't want to share it. SO the dream I had had to do with my chocolate chip cookie and trying to hide it from my traveling companion. Well in the morning she told me she had a dream about a chocolate chip cookie and I thought OH NO. Luckily she didn't pick up the part-- by telepathy-- that I had hidden it from her so I wouldn't have to share it. I don't really remember what happened after that. But I never forgot that shared dream!!
@@LadyBug1967 Thank You for the beautiful imagery ! I can see it ! I am so glad for Sheldrake and his wonderful ways of connecting science and spirit !
@@LadyBug1967 thats so funny...i have never ending telepathic experiences with my closest friends, we laugh about it because materialists are so upset by it.
I think its because materialism is cult-like in the sense that, like a cult, if you are 'in' the cult you have privileges and a 'special' identity but if you are 'out' you are seen as dangerous to other 'cult' members..you might contaminate them and bring them 'out' of the cult rendering the cult less powerful because a cult needs a certain amount of members and preferably member with resources to be shared within the cult...its all terribly irrational and makes a mockery of the idea of science or morality...sound familiar?
Thank you guys. Absolutely loved sitting in your playpen for an hour or so!!! Your podcast is the magic microphone and I'll wake up tomorrow Rupert with your two ideas in mind and to think about and further explore. To you both - PLEASE KEEP doing what you do!!!
Cheers,
Money is manmade and when greed comes in the God given intuition reduces accuracy.
This phenomena is recognised in Remote Viewing.
Very interesting!!!!
every ‘bit’ of universe has the same ‘amount’ of consciousness - in other words, the idea of ‘amount’ falls to pieces, when we talk about consciousness . also: Sheldrake says he hung out with Krishnamurti, Bohm, McKenna - where’s my friend group of philosophers? . if you’re interested, I’m interested . I’m in Vancouver - anybody nearby, who are on this wavelength? . I’m not shy to put this out there . EDIT: please allow your intuition to guide you (as it has guided me in writing this)
Hi dear, the essence of this talk is that you can always reach the people who are on your wavelength, no matter where they are on Earth. Connecting from Lapland right now ;--)
This video interview was wonderfully annotated and I absolutely love your attention to source material! Great work.
Nice to hear you Rupert and nice to meet you. I love listening to you and so I have subscribed to this channel. Never have I done this before. I've never subscribed because of loving someone's talks. Thank you!
Every channel that I see you on, I will subscribe to.
Dr. Sheldrake, you rock!
Me too
Persistence in willfully ignoring empirical evidence is widespread.
Does Dr Sheldrake have any comment on the decline effect? The decline effect has been observed not only in studies of psi phenomena but also 'regular' phenomena, such as declining efficacy of antidepressant medications in clinical trials over the decades. It seems to run counter to morphic resonance, if I understand correctly; I've only seen a handful of interviews with / lectures by Dr Sheldrake, so I might be mistaken. Is it a kind of habituation of the resonance field? I guess I should read his book, but I hate spending money and of course my public library system doesn't have any of his books.
It's not clearly contrary to the morphic resonance theory. It can be understood as simply living in a dynamic society. Collective mentalities, belief systems, and placebo effect are unstable. Causing temporary shifts in efficacy of a pharmaceutical or whatever is far easier than to permanently establish it. Look at religions. Christianity, for example, took many centuries to become a dominant ideology that shaped social reality. Think about how long it might've taken before holy sites and saintly relics became miraculously reliable.
Thank you Pops for attending unto our OWN! Love you too!
Thx guys, enjoyed your discussion
Bewdiful just BEAUTIFUL thanks.
18:43 Elena Danaan comes to mind here. She has a gift of wisdom and many other talents. She is deeply loving yet intellectual and quite beautiful. I think her archetype is being expressed more in young people and that is encouraging. Humanity is ready to move forward from millennia of high strangeness and insidious slavery.
Artificial "Intelligence" is a terrible misnomer which, intentionally or not, has created a great deal of confusion in the contemporary world.
🤔( Green Fire, UK ) 🌈🦉
Is AI juxtaposed directly to genuine stupidity?
@@collin9159 I simply mean to imply that computers are complex comptometers & have to relation to what we think of as "intelligence".
@@geoffreynhill2833 I was just being funny. ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxj0LqZ3zI3pERLa2kL7Jlc-sZRMd3pPx_?si=YABLYnyTgLqSGr8x
Cool dude. Morphic resonance is compelling - literally and figuratively. Sheldrake is the quality of person I am inclined to keep as a lifelong friend.
Well done to Doctor Sheldrake 👏 👏 👏
Thank you
I stumbled on a twitter account that had 4 videos of soldiers getting sniped at barricades probably Ukraine & Syria and noticed 3 out of the four soldiers scratched their nose just b4 getting shot.
The millennia of impact of monotheistic religious on the human psyche, and on the institutions humans create can't be overstated. I call it mono-thougjtism and it dominates human thinking to a near unanimous degree. That there is any independent thinking leads me ro believe that the intutive mode is intrinsic in humans and monothoughtism is second nature, inculcated early and relentlessly reinforced.
Modern society is still under the thrall of monotheistic fundamentalism. It's just become so dominant that it is hidden in plain sight. It might be, as Sheldrake argues, simpy the opposite version of fundamentalism. In reaction against the cult of the Sky Father, scientism is the cult of the Earth Mother (where 'mother' and 'matter' share an etymology).
Frank Herbert had a couple of books featuring characters that were sentient stars. The notion has always stuck with me.
Rupert and Merlin Sheldrake always have something challenging to say.
I belive that internet is the biggest revolution in human history, bringin all humanity closer as never before seen, now imagine morphic resonace + internet
Excellent what about plasma as information storage ?
Nice to see Rupert, not aging from Terrence McKenna times :)
Thank you Sir and Sir 💞
For very interesting dialogue
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Wonderful
Walking a cross a field of grasses, insects, sun light, etc etc.. sort of awoke the realization that the has to be hidden demiisins. Digging a hole to count the soil biota would hardly be enough
Reopening science to the collective consciousness that has always existed✨
Can someone tell me the name of the science fiction book that the host mentioned? I didn't catch it. Thank you in advance!
The 5th science I think it was called
Nowadays YT often provides useful transcripts! :--)
“an app for the sense of being stared at” (at 27:45) - where’s this app, Rupert?, I want it :)
Why is there a continued belief that Consciousness is a Substance that can be composed and decomposed and "contained"? Are there no reasons to think of Consciousness as a Process and requires thought about how that process might be Implemented?
Check out Julian Jaynes' theory of egoic-consciousness as the product of the container metaphor having become dominant in early societies, particularly after the collapse of Bronze Age civilization.
In total agreeance
Jesus Christ,Plato,Gnostics,Carl Jung,Buddha and Rupert Sheldrake are my teachers and favorite people ...🙌🙌🙌🙏🙏🙏
When you get right down to it....Rupert is against the constipation of the ego's. It's those dogmatic people that will not move. Rupert is like giving them a dose of intellectual MiraLax.
People must experience the truth of what you say to grok it, then have the courage to support it.
46:41 omg Exurb1a mentioned, I couldn't believe my ears
Keep up the good work, doc. Never mind the bullocks
Covid brought to light the corruption and narrow mindedness within science. It showed that medicine is in the dark ages and killing us. I loved Merlin’s book about inter connectivity through mushrooms. Open minds. I think we need more research on the many types of ants and how they work to improve soil. How they communicate and fight etc. I will read Rupert’s new book. Like Iain McGilchrist and Merlin, Rupert gives hope back to humanity. The 5th Science - I will read that. Excerbia.
I've had Sheldrake's first book for decades and I do think his ideas are both a little bit crazy and at the same time entrancing...but you have to admit his louche and erudite demeanour is admirable. Burst out laughing when he said "My son Merlin ..."
His son also has a doctorate in biology and has written a book on fungi :) pretty neat
edit: just got to that part of the video, he literally says the same thing i did after he mentions him oops
He is correct. This is intelligence 👍
Panpsychism for the whole universe would be Egyptian god Thoth's 7 Hermetic Principals. Principle 1.
The all is mind, the universe is mental.
A question, if anyone would be interested in tackling it. What prospect is there of a cataclysimically short-circuiting kind of collision of two trajectories now accelerating directly towards each other? That is, the "rethinking consciousness" and the "transhuman" trajectories. For an extremely specific point: let's say, for argument's sake, that there is a "natural" wave of discovery and development in human, "natural" telepathy. At the same time, it is becoming ridiculously obvious, isn't it, that the human race is speeding toward a virtual telepathy sans the least "mumbo-jumbo" (as the materialist might say), thanks purely to the inevitable advances in computer technology, so that one fine day now--"6th sense" or NO "6th sense"--we'll be able to "think" to each other via the chips reading signals from our brains and radiating them to our intended (also a signal) receiver, with no more trouble than one posts something on Facebook today. If, then, we (or they, as I don't expect to be around for that, thankfully) are all functionally telepathic ANYWAY, then WHAT role or avenue will be left for whatever "natural" telepathic aspect there might have been, or that could have been developed? Isn't it most likely to go the way of the appendix and the little toe?
natural law reigns ....creators instictions creation is proff ...beyond language (words)
Of the17 (or the 25, according to some) particles in the Standard Model, the only particle that has any direct link to any perception by any living being is the PHOTON ~ the source of sight perception.
But there are 5 more senses (including BREATHING as the common sense linking PLANTS, ANIMALS and HUMANS). Even far more important, there are NEED (hunger, fear, pain) and corresponding SATISFACTION (say, food, clothe, shelter relevant) perceptions, which SHOULD all be assigned unique particles.
This reduces the Standard Model to just 12 types of particles ~ all of which are MEASURABLE directly by individual beings.
Then if we associate the DIGITS as the unique ones among the 12 mentioned types of particles that enable all calculations (in all NATURAL as well as all SOCIAL sciences), with the 4 basic arithmetic operations as the only NATURAL LAWS OF MOTION, we can link all biological events as functions of these 12 types of elementary particles.
If we then derive the mathematical model of how particle interactions among these very same 12 types of particles inside the earth develop PLANTS on its own surface, to deliver and sustain beings here through them, then the accuracy of that model (hence also of the existence of so assumed particles) is verifiable through its applicability directly by every lay person to influence development of, and subsequent growth on, PLSNTS by programming consciously the air, liquids and solids each person releases to the environment (= to PLANTS in the final result).
Neither any specially designed experiments nor such observstions are nedded to verify the accuracy of the model, as PRACTICAL APPLICABILITY to positively influence life function is the sole purpose cum criterion of proof of all search for knowledge.
The particles that cause the other 5 sense perceptions and the 6 that cause need and satisfaction perceptions in all beings ARE THE REAL HIDDEN VARIABLES.
Substiting 17 (or 25) particle types of the Standard Model with just 12, incidentally, satisfies the Occam's Razor too.
This totally Biological Standard Model renders PHYSICS, CHEMISTRY, MATHEMATICS, BIOLOGY (and other social sciences) as separate branches of knowledge superfluous.
Wow this was a hidden gem
Until a person has had some awakening experience however small which challenges conditioning of the mass mind.....you will never get through. I know from family and others who mockingly dismiss alternative views.
I think even Richard Dawkins has a certain amount of interest in spirituality too but…I get the idea that if he’s proven wrong regarding the idea that there is nothing more than just the laws of physics etc, then he would listen. As if he’s exploring the world scientifically to see if there is more than that, but from the bias that there isn’t, unless we have good reason to believe so, and that too is beautiful enough. But he’s an agnostic.
Offsprings preserve will say, loving who shared HIS "i" AM unto Thee all and came with conversations given just for thee to cherish, loving thy neighbors given to show off in front, and remember my Offsprings preserve from Thee all!
???? What are you talking about?
Dr. Sheldrake has a son?
Good.
17:05 yes, it's better to be on your own rather than having bad friends.
You can always believe in uncertainty.
Dr Rupert inspired me greatly in my research of the the Erectile Deficiency Synopsis. Which obviously is a lack of minerals in the conscience of a parallel atomic nuclei. Found in most obtuse flatus of the sativus species.
You are talking piss poticle
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"...It's a rather unfortunate parallel that he chose... especially given that Galileo turned out to be right!" 😁😂😂🤣😆 ....Me thinks the critic may have been suffering from a Freudian Slip! 😉😎
Alien Scientist on UA-cam, young lab working science and mathematics
Simptoms of atherosclerosis did occur only If arterial oclusions overfulfil a level
Why doesn't Rupert Sheldrake work with HeartMath Institute?
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2:40 Galelio turned out to be right.
So nice to hear these intelligent conversation, rather than someone trying to shut down Sheldrake's ideas. They are ideas that everybody has, at one time or another, and we just drop them as no one gets up and runs with them and all we get is blank stares! We humans ALL experience the sort of things Sheldrake has been working on. I have never understood why there is such zeal to squash them. What are we all afraid of? That we'll be right??
Ghosts, for example.... The seeing or feeling of ghosts is so incredibly common, in all cultures, times and eras, that I simply accept them as being real. Why not? Why would millions of people report such similar things and yet all of them be making it up? That's too silly. Of course the phenomenon is real when it's real. Yes it can be faked, but it obviously isn't always faked. I didn't fake the ghosts I saw!! I have no idea what it MEANS but let not that lack of understanding lead us into lack of acceptance of this mystery. I have no idea how to study it, except in those sites famed for being haunted (which is far from the most common way of experiencing ghosts) but to dismiss it is probably irresponsible.
“Feeling.” Indeed. It’s called psychology…
Phi - 3?
If Human Mind Start Understanding Energies -What Already Humanity Opened the Page To Know that -All - is Informational Knowledge about Everything Mind Recognizes from a word to picture …. God ..Sun …Moon -Everything is in Some Very Sense - Called “Science “……🌞
I don't think it's merely ignorance and ideology. I think it's pretty clear that disruptive science is being intentionally suppressed, and has been since the early 20th century. It's grown much more so since the mid century
It’s not supposed to be about accolades and publishings. It’s supposed to be about discovering truths. History will point an accusatory finger at those who have opposed and impeded truth. They will then be relegated to the rubbish bin of history…replaced by (poetically) by TRUTH.
were you once associated with Jiddu Krishnamurti?
why doesnt anyone donate to Rupert's research or that of the very few similar independent, serious-minded thinkers? There are plenty of moneyed individuals out there, with time on their hands, curiosity towards the big questions, intelligence enough to see through the unimaginative dullardry of establishment academia, etc. Do the Elon Musks of the world have to grow old enough to do the equivalent of Templeton and allocate real money towards this sort of thing - impending death has a knack for focusing minds. Just too bad you have to meet your maker or get close to it to sponsor research and thinking outside the materialist paradigm 🙂
What makes you think their not do these things? Maybe some are. Just saying.
Because Sheldrake himself (and Thomas Campbell of "My big TOE" fame) both readily admit that they are severely restricted in what experimentation they can do because of funding concerns. I find that dismaying when "we" (the taxpayer) so generously fund string theory and dark matter research, for example, both of which are in fact less scientific than both morphic resonance and Campbell's proposed QM experiments.@@pooheadlou
Actually, Rupert Sheldrake has a milionare donor from LA if i remember correctly. It is hard to get donations for this kind of work cause most of the people are materialists, physicalists without even knowing and questioning it.
Federico Faggin has a foundation for consciousness research, so does Robert Bigelow, Fred Master founded Essentia (with Bernardo Kastrup) - so there are some wealthy people who fund this type of investigation, but it doesn't seem like enough.
Fringe is fringe, no matter how you dress it up. 😂
They are bought and paid for for their preferred findings.
Correlation is cause for investigation, imho.
You just frighten the hell out of them. Galileo did the same. They cannot comprehend that anyone can think like you. It is all about conformity to straight jacket beliefs.
How can the mind affect experiments like Schrödinger’s cat and be a part of quantum mechanics yet be said to be locked in our heads. Surely this is a contradiction.
We need to move beyond physicalism and scientism. Both are delusions.
Imagine all that actually exists is Consciousness, axiomatic to which is Perception In Consciousness.
We're part of a Consciousness Singularity, Primary Consciousness, of which we are partitioned bits. Reality isn't an illusion, a hallucination, or anything material. Reality is Perception In Consciousness.
An age delimited affirmation for that which is error-ridden, is surely not the best analogy for discussing the matter at hand. After all, history is replete with such confused phenomena.
If you don't like material dogmatism, feel free to use any other principles to produce anything that is falsifiable and has predictive power.
What is not to nothingness? A little child born "i" will say, my "AM"! "i" AM! Why there's something rather than nothing in front? Keep watch!
Michael Levin.
The same is true of climate crisis. Unless you claim the end is nigh you are called a denier whatever that means.They close down debate which has terrible consequences for true science.
Sheldrake might like and understand this.:
The scientific statement of being
There is no life, truth, intelligence, nor substance in matter. All is infinite Mind and its infinite manifestation, for God is All-in-all. Spirit is immortal Truth; matter is mortal error. Spirit is the real and eternal; matter is the unreal and temporal. Spirit is God, and man is His image and likeness. Therefore man is not material; he is spiritual.
From Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures
by Mary Baker Eddy, p. 468:9-15
Its correlative scripture
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
I John 3:1-3