CZ Shadow 1 vs Shadow 2
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2018
- The CZ Shadow SP-01 was the mid-price favorite for IPSC for a good long time, but now there's the upgraded Shadow 2. Which should you buy and what are the differences?
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Can't believe how tough this specific information was to find in any website or video -- even directly from CZ. Thanks for this work!
It’s like the Info on the Shadow is a secret... 🤔
@@stacks4943 that’s why it’s called shadow
Thanks for making positive gun videos. You continue to improve!
I love this review. Watched it 3x already in the past few days
Great video. Got the SP-01 Shadow for more then 10 years now and going to add the Shadow 2.
Awesome video, thanks for putting it out there.
Few thoughts:
-Sh 1 or Sh 2 stock triggers, once you shoot either of these babies, you fall in love. Some take-up, yes, but crystal clear break.
-sight picture on both (but especially the Sh1 due to larger Novak rear) is simply awesome with stock sights
-longer thumbs resting on safety may also touch the slide release, causing slide to not lock back after last shot
-drastically thinner grips on Sh 2, but endless options for both Sh 1 and Sh 2 from LOK (shameless plug as I love their grips)
-pricing argument is valid when talking about the black Sh 1, but not with that sweet dual tone one in the video (which is closer to 1000 CDN, sometimes more, which is getting closer to the Sh 2)
-I have the Sh 1, I prefer the feel and overall awesomeness of the Sh 2 by a hair, both great guns
-both guns will retain their value for resale, especially the hard to get Sh 2 on the used market
I liked the style of review. Didn't hear your impressions of shooting about both guns. And thank you for the metric measurements!
They're both great. I prefer the Shadow 2 because you can get a bit higher on the grip.
Nice teardown of the pistols, thanks!!
many thanks for this great comparison. I have the old shadow and I love her!
I really enjoyed your video. Very informative. You nailed most important subjects right. Thank you. As far as my judgements goes - I own Shadow 1 - I like it but there is something in me demanding more from my primary competition pistol. And today I had chance to shoot my friend's Shadow 2. For me the difference is there and quite significant. Although Shadow 1 is really decent pistol Shadow 2 in my hands just performs better, with softer and shorter trigger pull, better grip ergonomics and softer recoil. I've just hit the SUBSCRIBE button :)
I had an SP-01 Tactical Urban Grey, and I thought that was decently light all things considered. To be flinging a Glock 17 or most other polymer pistols is like swinging around a 2x2 block of carbon fiber. The Shadow 2 is probably one of the first pistols I've ever held in my entire life that actually felt "weighty". I'd say it's like shaking the hand of god! I love the weight because it.. just feels good, y'know? Other than that, the sights are absolutely *the best* I've ever seen in all my life other than red dots but those have other funny things with them for me. The texturing is also the most aggressive I've felt, and I love it! Definitely an improvement over my old SP-01 Urban Grey, but I wouldn't call the other one bad at all either. I just love the thin aluminum grips because thinner = better for my hands. The undercut of the trigger guard as well as the trigger guard itself being larger is also appreciated. The texturing of the slide is also something I MUCH prefer on the Shadow 2, it doesn't cut my hand as much as the SP-01. Not that the old one actually made me lose much flesh, but I thought it was worth mentioning. But if there's one thing I prefer on the Shadow 2 more than basically every single other firearm I've ever had, it's the trigger. HOOOO BOI! I've had 1911s before, and they all had the best triggers I've ever felt since I started out as a Glock fanboy. BUT! The Shadow 2 is the first pistol I've had to have a similarly good trigger to all my 1911s. I don't know, I can't tell if it's the trigger weight, the amazing break, the crazy short reset, or just the cleanliness in the break in general, but I love it all! Honestly I think my only slight complaint about the Shadow 2 is the safety being so insanely small, but I usually start in double-action so it's not all that important really. On top of that, I mean it's a DA/SA gun and not SA only so I'd be MUCH more bothered if the Shadow 2 was single action only with the tiny safety. I do know I can switch it out at my leisure since my pistol came with the extended safety in the accessories included in the box, so it's no big deal.
For the "too long didn't care" explanation of my essay I wrote, get a Shadow 2. You won't be disappointed.
tnx for the weight conversion.saved me from googling a converter :D
I would love to try SP-01, I have done the Shadow 2 a couple of times now and jesus almighty that grip on the shadow 2 really knows how to tear you hand after an hour of shooting
Great review - especially for beginners with limited funds. I bought a Shad 2,,, awesome gun, but would have been as happy with a Shad 1 based on your very visually informative and comprehensive review. In the end, I did find the 2 to be quite heavy - I'm 59 and never owned a pistol. Loved the Shad 2 grip - esp. the cutaways - and the balance is amazing.... but it is heavy. CZ make great guns - I've used my 2, and a 1, and a 75,,,, all lovely guns. Also learned some technique from you HGG.... Thanx
Amazing video!!!!!! Really helpful!!!! Thank you sir
Great review
FYI: 10 round Mec-gar mags for some CZ75 variants in 40S&W seem to hold 13 rounds of 9mm with no issue or sign of double-feeds. Not sure what competition rules are in Canada, but if you can get 3-4 extra rounds per mag.....
I happen to have a few of those. Great for 3 gun, useless for IPSC where you can only run 10 round mags anyways.
Haven't seen the grey Shadow 1 yet in Ontario, but it looks really nice in that finish.
Tenda...saw them last ween
Thx for the gramms^^
Very detailed and informative
What recoil spring would you recommend if I swapped out to a steel guild rod? (Shadow1)
Most people shooting competitive IPSC will change out a fair amount of parts in any case. Some people will not like the considerably larger grip of the S2, depending on your mag release reach.
You have talent pal!
Very instructive.
Super awesome job.
Having sampled both, I prefer the SP-01. The added weight of the 02 can wear on a shooter after a long day of competition. 🤓🇨🇦🇺🇸
What are your thoughts on the SP-01 Competition? It's the same price point as the Shadow 2 but there's next to no info in any videos about in-depth performance. I bought one last week when I couldn't find a Shadow 2 in stock, the guy at the gunstore said it was more or less on par with it but I haven't been able to find much info. I'm planning on swapping it over to SAO with a CGW kit, so hopefully the creep in the DA/SA trigger on it now will dissappear, which is my only complaint, other than that I'm happy with it myself, I'm mostly just curious if I need to get a S2 or if the SP01 will suffice.
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Hi Mark. The SP 01 Competition is a really nice gun, it has upgraded hammer with trigger refinements and I believe a steel guide rod instead of the plastic one that comes with the standard Shadow. Also the grip is cool. I wanted to get one but unfortunately it's not available in Canada. If I had a choice I'd go with the Competition version, the 02 is just too heavy for me.
@@alexgolovchenko3791 OK that's good to know, thanks for the info. That's too bad it's not available in Canada though, is there any way to transfer one over?
@@TheExplosiveGuy
I tried but my local CZ supplier had problems with government beurocracy and the cost was just too high. My standard 01 Shadow is dialed in pretty good, decided to spend the money on ammo, club fees and competition entrance fees instead, only so much cash to go around I guess.
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What about a shadow 1 custom shop target II versus a shadow 2.
I’m going to mount my x300u on the “dust cover” apparently
Since we're using old timey nomenclature, make sure to use a teacup grip on it too.
Good review
I have both, and I agree that they are both very good, but Shadow 2 is better in an appreciable way ...I think it is worth the price
I love these guns 💕
Good review!! The mass of the slide may have implications for recoil. Have you noticed the Shadow 1 having less recoil?
i bought mine for 650.....it shot like 1000 rounds when i bought it, so brand new, i like it, im talking about the shadow 1, couldn't afford the 2
Nice vid and nice pistols. Right now, you can find CZ firearms 15-20% off at a few retailers in Ontario/Canada. I've seen the Shadows for around $600 and the Shadow2 for $1050-ish.
Had I not just bought the IWI Jericho last month, I'd have a Shadow 1.
Which retailers do they have websites ?
I would have loved to get the SH2, but I found the SH1 at 815 CAD tax in and bought it. SH2 is over 1200 CAD +tax...
You guys are lucky....its about AUD 1700 and 2200 here between the two and the AUD and CAD exchange is similar
"A measurement system that makes sense" LOL /high five
Measuring in lbs + ounces drives me up the wall.
@@Huntinggearguy Know what you mean mate! I only know lbs & stone for human measurement (as well as kgs) but smaller measurements its gotta be metric all the way lol
a measurement system for simpler minds, lol
Dude, get your hands on a Canik P120, it’s a Shadow 1 clone for under $600. Very well made and even with upgrades comes in under a CZ.
I like shooting my Shadow 2 along with my Shadow Target 2
so whats the difference between the cz 75 p01, sp01, sp01 shadow, shadow 2 and cz 75 TS sport?
Shadows have tuned triggers+recoilsprings and no firingpin blocks, TS is same plus more tuned and only SA.
is the "SP-01 Shadow 1" simply an SP-01 without the firing pin block, tailored for competition? or does the Shadow 1 retain the firing pin block?
Yes basically
So which is more durable and shot more accurately between the 2?the shadow 1 is more beautifiul on 2 tone?nice review
You're not going to wear out either of them and they're more accurate than the shooter. You'll need to replace springs once in a while, maybe a slide stop, fibre optic on the front sight every couple years if you want it nice and bright. That's it.
Did you find the accuracy the same for both guns?
Much better than I'll ever need for run and gun IPSC and 3 gun.
Looks like the shadow 1 is simply a SP01 tricked out a little internally while the shadow 2 is a whole new animal and design. But is the shadow 2 worth the price ?? Or for that matter the shadow 1 when you can get a regular SP01 for less! I’ve only had the cz75b and it was nice for single shots and 2 and 3 shot bursts ok but not great for more rapid fire. So the heavier frame and beaver tale of the shadows and SP01 must help remedy that issue.
Spot on!
Isn’t the Shadow IDPA compliant where the Shadow 2 is not..?
correct
the shadow 2 is pure butter
Very nice review. No hype junkie alike. Have been shot both guns and I’m more accurate with SP01 Shadow (probably I feel grip better) at first when you take S2 the grip feels better but when I shoot I get better groupings with S1 I don’t know why maybe is just me. Ok S2 for some is better looking gun but for me S1 looks more spec-ops and less toy like with those vibrant color grips. In my opinion if you need gun for everything S1 is better option if you want gun only for competition and/or shooting range than S2 is better but just a hair in my case is quite opposite :)
Considering price difference about 350 eur (400 usd) S1 is clear winner. S2 maybe just maybe worth 100 eur (usd) extra if that.
The nice thing about the SP01 Shadow for me as an Austrian is that it is really versatile when it comes to "legality" in different shooting disciplines. I was quite surprised when I realized that it is usable under BDMP regulations (BDMP stands for Bund Der Militar- und Polizeischützen - Association of Military and Police Shooters), since it obviously is used as a service pistol somewhere (the rule is that at least 500 guns of a certain type are used as service weapons). There are only few weapons on the BDMP list that actually double as "sports weapons". Another example is the Sig Sauer X-Five So SAO (but forget about using a SAO gun in IPSC Production)
For me that versatility is important, because if you newly obtain an Austrian gun owner's license, you are limited to two "Category B" guns (Pistols, Revolvers and semi-automatic rifles/shotguns). Obviously, the Shadow 2 doesn't fit into the service pistol category... ;-) By the way: The craziest gun to be found on the BDMP list would be the Desert Eagle .357 Mag (no joke)...I wonder who was crazy enough to field that gun... ;-)
I can totally imagine some United Arab Emirates special forces using a tiger-striped gold Desert Eagle as a service pistol 😛
@@zenodio3D I just decided against the SP01 Shadow and bought a Shadow 2 yesterday... ;-)
@@philippk819 Congratulations man!
It's such a beautiful and amazingly engineered pistol.
I've only held in my hand when I visited a gunshop recently but damn, it really seems like an amazing pistol.
HK P30L or CZ shadow 1,witch is better?
Accuracy?
Every day carry?
Problems?
Overall?
I use my CZ Shadow for a very specific purpose: IPSC and 3 gun competitive shooting, and the Shadow excels at that purpose. They are easily the best price to performance handgun for competitive shooting in some divisions like IPSC Production. For EDC, they'd be too heavy and bulky, I wouldn't want to be carrying a 3 lb pistol all day. The Shadow is quite a different beast from the P30L: it's 50% heavier due to a steel frame instead of the HK's polymer frame, I'd consider the Shadow's fibre front and blacked rear sights to be superior for competition, but the P30L's 3 dot sights would be more practical for defensive use.
@@Huntinggearguy very good comment. thank you very much.
I appreciate
@@Huntinggearguy One more question if it doesn't bother you:
between HK USP 9x19mm and CZ P09 9x19mm ,what do you prefer?..... CZp09 is at a very good price....
Can I put the grips Shadow 1 to Shadow 2 ?
They won't fit
Yes you can.
You can but Shadow 1 grip frame is thinner and for me this wasn't comfortable at all so I switched back to original ones.
SHIT!WANT TO BUY CZ! HOW TO DO ?
very nice "techspec" video
Good
Can you MODIFY the Shadow2 with a DE-COCKER instead of a SAFETY?
I'm pretty sure the Shadow 2 is purpose made to compete in IPSC/USPSA, why do you want a decocker on it?
@@Huntinggearguy Because a SAFETY can get you KILLED. Besides, the DOUBLE ACTION first pull acts as a kind of SAFETY. The Beretta allows the exchange of a safety for a de-cocker only. Good feature.
@@jakobw135 The safety cannot be engaged in double action, only in single action. If you plan on using the S2 for home defense or carry the safety is benign. I use the safety as a shelf for my thumb, so there is no chance of accidentally engaging it after the first shot.
@@jbar2.048 But, CAN it be swapped out for a DE-COCKER?
@@jakobw135 I have never heard of a decocker mod for the shadow 2 - try calling a gunsmith. One thing I do know is adding a decocker will make an already expensive gun much more expensive, and most likely the trigger will not be as good. You will be paying a gunsmith to mess your pistol up.
The trigger system in the S2 is very simple and bare bones - that's one of the reasons why it's good. Messing with that is most likely a mistake.
You're really liking the 3 gun eh? Or mores just IPSC now?
I'd do both if it was convenient.
I hear ya, wish ammo was a little more reasonable. My 97b is pricey to shoot, lol@@Huntinggearguy
The Hunting Gear Guy , my friend has a shadow 2 And l have Shadow 1 l believe Shadow-2 is more durable than Shadow 1 maybe same reliability but not same durability , what do you think ?
The Hunting Gear Guy , my friend has a shadow 2 And l have Shadow 1 l believe Shadow-2 is more durable than Shadow 1 maybe same reliability but not same durability , what do you think ?
Some of the early Shadow 2's get a small crack on the frame (inside near the slide stop), but otherwise I'd tend to agree. By using the buffers, they should reduce the stress they put on the slide stop and reduce the parts breakage on it in the Shadow 2. Other than that though, the guns are pretty reliable workhorses.
Great review mate, thank you .... it really does come down to the Law of Diminishing Returns, which I apply to any purchase. As someone starting out in IPSC I am looking at the Glock 19 as well - the question for me would be, is a Pistol like the Shadow 2 $1400 better than a Gen 3 Glock 19? Because that is about the price difference between those two guns where I live. As you say, you've got gear to add to that top end cost ... belt, mags, ammo etc etc. At a mid ground compromise the Shadow 1 is easily the way to go - but when you consider the fact that both State Police, general Military and Spec Forces in my Country use the Glock 19 - and I can buy one well under $600 ... it makes the Glock look very good indeed. There is no way the Shadow 2 is $1400 more gun than a Gen 3 Glock 19 - if somebody can break that down for me and physically/practically demonstrate (head to head) where the Shadow 2 is $1400 better than a Glock 19 ... I'll buy one. P.S I really like the H&K USP as well! ... $$$$
It’s the Beauty and ergonomics, kinda like comparing two prostitutes. One is hella ugly but does a great job and one is like a model and does a great job. I’d go for the model.
I’m sure there is enough information floating around to help you make a solid choice! However, there is NO gun that is $1400 better than a run-of-the-mill, generic utility pistol. It’s more about legacy, desirability, workmanship, ergonomics, build quality, aesthetics, rarity, “feel”, and the stated purpose of the pistol! I like shooting my Glock 17 & 34 but i love shooting my CZ Shadow 2! The Shadow 2 will be a permanent addition to my collection! The Glocks are replaceable... it’s like comparing a Prius to a Tesla Model S!
wouldn't call a polymer guide rod .. 'cheaper assembly' . it does the job , does not peen the frame , saves on weight . it does the job of not letting the spring bind. Only issue is heat , but I yet have to see pistol used so much in one sitting that it melts a plastic guide rod. Cz guys normally know what they're doing.But very nice review.
I think it's a cost saving measure. No one's trying to save weight when they buy a gun like a Shadow 1 or 2, in fact they want the opposite. They moved to a steel guide rod for the Shadow 2 and CZ offers a steel guide rod as an upgrade on the Shadow 1. I don't personally think it makes a noticeable difference one way or the other.
@@Huntinggearguy That is true as well , but I agree , I dont think it makes a difference.
Well the Shadow 1 grouping at 30yds is way much better than the shadow 2
I fail to see a $500 difference. That being said... if you like these pistols you would do yourself a favor to check out many of the quality CZ clones that you can get your hands on. Pistols very similar to these in design and function in the sub-500 market
my favorite guns CZ I use shadow 01 better in hand
I could not find shadow 1 on the internet. All shadow I find is over twelve hundred.
Are you in Canada or the US? They're in stock in Canada for ~$950.
Wtf in the beginning he said that shit so fast lol
shadow because the shadow 2 is heavier and no improvement in accuracy
RayGunz how heavy recoil spring would you go with when switching to steel guide rod?
Shadow 1 and head over to Caj#n Gu# Works and spend the difference on upgrades
CZED!!!
You like how I never said C-Zed in the whole thing?
@@Huntinggearguy no!
So there's a sp 01...and a sp 01 shadow.??? Cause that grey looks like a reg sp 01.... help a noob understand more...!!
There is, but the grey one in the video is an SP01 Shadow.
@@Huntinggearguy o...I see... thank you..!!!
Cz 75sp01 shadow. Not shadow 1. That's the correct!
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that’s a cheap cloth 😮