This is why people who say "this player is a plug, put him on waiver" are not suited to manage a business. You never know what you can flip a player for. Look at Barron, we got Carrier who is also playing an important role.
When you think about it, we can partly thank Tomas Plekanec for Hutson’s pick. In 2017-2018, MTL traded him to Toronto for a 2nd, Kirby Rychel and Rinat Valiev. In summer 2018, MTL traded Valiev and AHLer Matt Taormina for Brett Kulak. The rest is history…
@@philippetessier6126Beck is benefitting from playing top line minites with the rockets. Habs are fighting for a playoff spot and Dvorak provides veteran experience. Doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
@@jonathandrouin8717 yea that's precisely what scares me about the recent performances. Suddenly, people think the habs are a playoffs team and will be offended if they start selling guys who clearly have no future with us. Dvorak might be a veteran, but he's a glorified 4th liner at this point. Beck should be able to take this low-demand role as an entry point to start adapting to the big league. I really hope hugues doesn't screw anything up by accelerating the rebuild or losing resources to free agency.
@philippetessier6126 center, even on a bottom 6 is not a low demand role, no. You have to be reliable on faceoff, play solid defense and be able to produce at least 20-25pts per season minimum if you want to keep your roster spot. Maybe Beck can do all that already, we don't know that. But what i know is that for his development it's better to play first line, PP and PK with 20mins or so of ice time then play 10-14mins of sheltered ice time in the NHL. Also, in his mid season press conference Hughes said that he wanted to play meaningful games until the end of the season and loading up rookies in the roster would be a step back. It's not about offending people. It's about helping the young players already in the roster into the next gear. Have you missed the first 2 months of the season? It clearly showcased that they were willing to accept the status quo if we were heading into another losing season and were not going to rush things out. At the press conference, Highes also said he had enough picks and prospects and wasn't looking to add more of them. I highly doubt Dvorak has much value and if he does have value you will find someone willing to trade for him before the UFA market opens up during the offseason. You're talking about not rushing the rebuild but here you are trying to rush a prospect into the NHL... kinda contradicting, rebuild implies you let your prospect develop properly so they can be as ready as possible when they make the jump. It would have been easy to call up Beck while Laine was sick to give him an opportunity to prove himself but even then they prefered to keep him down and just give double duties to Suzuki and Caufield and having them alternate on the 2nd line. I think habs fans wants to see prospect too quickly in the NHL and it was an issue for the past 30 years with this team. Look at tampa bay or dallas, they don't rush their prospects in the NHL and they are 2 of the best teams who develop prospects. I am confident eith Hughes for these 2 reasons, he's not trying to rush the rebuild and he's allowing prospects to develop at their own pace, a good example is Kapanen, it would have been easy to stick him in the NHL for the whole season given he was doing all right. But all right is not enough if you want to become an elite team one day. They felt that keeping Kapanen in the NHL would have probably ruined his development offensively and didn't want him to become just a 4th line grinder so they sent him back to Sweden instead where he would benefit from having a higher workload (he has 16pts in 17 games with Timra), they could have also kept Mailloux in the NHL but the way he is going he wouldn't have amounted to much more then Nathan Beaulieu, so they sent him back down because if he'a going to be an NHL player one day, he needs to be better then Beaulieu 2.0.
Barron might have been a trade loss for Hughes. But if Lecky didn't score that winning goal. Edmonton might have won and we wouldn't have drafted Hutson. And Carrier has been awesome since being traded for Barron.
This all traces back to the 2017-2018 trade deadline. Where the Canadiends traded Tomas Plekanec to the Toronto Maple Leafs. One of the players acquired in the trade, Kerby Rychel, would then be traded to the Calgary Flames for Brett Kulak.
You need different type of players in you top-4 defense. That would make two 5'10", 160lb left shot defensemen. Where would Guhle fit in? Although, if Cole was a right shot, Lane would play with Reinbacher and Cole with Guhle. Both pairs have a small but elite, creative offensive d-man with a 6"2 defensively gifted partner that hits, but can still produce decent numbers and keep up with the Hutson brothers because of their excellent skating. Complete the defensive squad with big, aggressive d-men that can fight like Wifi and Mailloux and that would be one hell of a defense!!
I don't think anyone was serious with their proposals but to your point, after a world junior's like Cole had, the asking price would be high, very high. Maybe not Demidov high, but I think lots of GMs are looking at Lane with the Habs and Cole at the WJC and kicking themselves for not grabbing their second shot at a Hutson...
I dont think Celebrini will mostlikely win it. Yeah hes doing good but the sample size is also smaller. I feel like the fact that Lane is good def and put up that much point make him as likely if not even more as Celebrini to win it. Even when Lane `slowed down`as you said he didnt actually slow down if you watch the game dude was insane, puck just didnt find the back of the net. Now he is at last on the first PP.
Celebrini also plays a 200ft game and faces the best players on opposing players. If he keeps producing at the pace he has been, he's locked for the Calder.
I'm telling you if you stop watching the puck and watch where the players are going this is apparent to me. It's not obvious, because I am NOT anything more than a fan.
Kulak turns into Hutson. So wild.
This is why people who say "this player is a plug, put him on waiver" are not suited to manage a business. You never know what you can flip a player for. Look at Barron, we got Carrier who is also playing an important role.
When you think about it, we can partly thank Tomas Plekanec for Hutson’s pick. In 2017-2018, MTL traded him to Toronto for a 2nd, Kirby Rychel and Rinat Valiev. In summer 2018, MTL traded Valiev and AHLer Matt Taormina for Brett Kulak. The rest is history…
Thank you TO for leading us right to Hutson 😂
@@Bartman721 what's even more mind blowing is that the leafs wanted to draft him
Your defense is terrified! Montreal’s on fire 🔥!! We back for our Stanley cup win in this decade
They also took Owen Beck in the 2nd round that year. He should be a big part of the team in years to come.
I hope Dvorak gets traded at deadline so that beck can start getting minutes on the fourth line for the last 20 games of the season.
Maybe. Is he ready. Still not convinced by Beck. Hope he makes me regret that. I have hopes for him.
@@philippetessier6126Beck is benefitting from playing top line minites with the rockets. Habs are fighting for a playoff spot and Dvorak provides veteran experience. Doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
@@jonathandrouin8717 yea that's precisely what scares me about the recent performances. Suddenly, people think the habs are a playoffs team and will be offended if they start selling guys who clearly have no future with us. Dvorak might be a veteran, but he's a glorified 4th liner at this point. Beck should be able to take this low-demand role as an entry point to start adapting to the big league. I really hope hugues doesn't screw anything up by accelerating the rebuild or losing resources to free agency.
@philippetessier6126 center, even on a bottom 6 is not a low demand role, no. You have to be reliable on faceoff, play solid defense and be able to produce at least 20-25pts per season minimum if you want to keep your roster spot. Maybe Beck can do all that already, we don't know that. But what i know is that for his development it's better to play first line, PP and PK with 20mins or so of ice time then play 10-14mins of sheltered ice time in the NHL. Also, in his mid season press conference Hughes said that he wanted to play meaningful games until the end of the season and loading up rookies in the roster would be a step back. It's not about offending people. It's about helping the young players already in the roster into the next gear. Have you missed the first 2 months of the season? It clearly showcased that they were willing to accept the status quo if we were heading into another losing season and were not going to rush things out. At the press conference, Highes also said he had enough picks and prospects and wasn't looking to add more of them.
I highly doubt Dvorak has much value and if he does have value you will find someone willing to trade for him before the UFA market opens up during the offseason.
You're talking about not rushing the rebuild but here you are trying to rush a prospect into the NHL... kinda contradicting, rebuild implies you let your prospect develop properly so they can be as ready as possible when they make the jump. It would have been easy to call up Beck while Laine was sick to give him an opportunity to prove himself but even then they prefered to keep him down and just give double duties to Suzuki and Caufield and having them alternate on the 2nd line.
I think habs fans wants to see prospect too quickly in the NHL and it was an issue for the past 30 years with this team. Look at tampa bay or dallas, they don't rush their prospects in the NHL and they are 2 of the best teams who develop prospects. I am confident eith Hughes for these 2 reasons, he's not trying to rush the rebuild and he's allowing prospects to develop at their own pace, a good example is Kapanen, it would have been easy to stick him in the NHL for the whole season given he was doing all right. But all right is not enough if you want to become an elite team one day. They felt that keeping Kapanen in the NHL would have probably ruined his development offensively and didn't want him to become just a 4th line grinder so they sent him back to Sweden instead where he would benefit from having a higher workload (he has 16pts in 17 games with Timra), they could have also kept Mailloux in the NHL but the way he is going he wouldn't have amounted to much more then Nathan Beaulieu, so they sent him back down because if he'a going to be an NHL player one day, he needs to be better then Beaulieu 2.0.
When the Habs first drafted him, i started watching him play with BU, and i said, that guy wil be a superstar, and i was right.
Nothing mattered until Liane came back and made an entire team feel like they have the right confidence. Liane effect is VERY similar to Alex Kovelev.
whos liane?
@@mickaelhachey7154laine
nah Kovalec had a terrible work ethic. Not comparable at all.
Barron might have been a trade loss for Hughes. But if Lecky didn't score that winning goal. Edmonton might have won and we wouldn't have drafted Hutson. And Carrier has been awesome since being traded for Barron.
they got carrier and hage in the lehkenen deal with barron moving on
Barron is not an NHL caliber player. Getting Carrier was just pure theft.
Hage alone was worth the trade but we ended up Carrier. Definitely not a lost.
Lane is the gift that Tomas Plekanec left for the Habs.
This Habs team is gonna be KILLER!
This all traces back to the 2017-2018 trade deadline. Where the Canadiends traded Tomas Plekanec to the Toronto Maple Leafs. One of the players acquired in the trade, Kerby Rychel, would then be traded to the Calgary Flames for Brett Kulak.
I hope Les Habs trade for Lane’s brother! He looked great in the WJC.
You need different type of players in you top-4 defense. That would make two 5'10", 160lb left shot defensemen. Where would Guhle fit in? Although, if Cole was a right shot, Lane would play with Reinbacher and Cole with Guhle. Both pairs have a small but elite, creative offensive d-man with a 6"2 defensively gifted partner that hits, but can still produce decent numbers and keep up with the Hutson brothers because of their excellent skating. Complete the defensive squad with big, aggressive d-men that can fight like Wifi and Mailloux and that would be one hell of a defense!!
I doubt the Capitals wants to trade Cole Hutson unless you trade them like Demidov or somrthing like that.
I don't think anyone was serious with their proposals but to your point, after a world junior's like Cole had, the asking price would be high, very high. Maybe not Demidov high, but I think lots of GMs are looking at Lane with the Habs and Cole at the WJC and kicking themselves for not grabbing their second shot at a Hutson...
Things are looking better. Go Habs Go!
I dont think Celebrini will mostlikely win it. Yeah hes doing good but the sample size is also smaller. I feel like the fact that Lane is good def and put up that much point make him as likely if not even more as Celebrini to win it. Even when Lane `slowed down`as you said he didnt actually slow down if you watch the game dude was insane, puck just didnt find the back of the net. Now he is at last on the first PP.
Celebrini also plays a 200ft game and faces the best players on opposing players. If he keeps producing at the pace he has been, he's locked for the Calder.
I agree with everything you said.
Reminds me of Orr. Huge potential. All we need is an Esposito. Let's get Lane's brother too.
Already drafted by Washington :(
No, Orr was infinitely better.
we luv hudson
He's the points* leader not scoring leader. Go Habs Go!
Hutson drafted #62 in the second round not #30
Wtf??? Kulak for Hutson ???
30th pick? He went 62nd overall.
Yeah 30 we pick mesar
He said the 30th pick of the 2nd round
I'm telling you if you stop watching the puck and watch where the players are going this is apparent to me. It's not obvious, because I am NOT anything more than a fan.
5:59 Please agree or disagree, fully open to being wrong. When Liane came back, everyone wanted to be better.