How Simple Economics KILLED The Quebec Nordiques
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
- In 1979, the Quebec Nordiques - the proverbial little brothers of Quebec hockey - became an NHL franchise. And, mon dieu, what a run they had. Between their epic battles with Montreal, the brilliance of the Stastny Brothers, and, of course, L’affaire Lindros, the Nordiques were consistently one the NHL’s most compelling teams. That is, until their bitter end...
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How this guy's voice KILLED this video
just came to the comments to say this and im glad its already been said. BRUTAL
Agreed
Damn i couldn't continue watching this
He's still waiting for his nuts to drop apparently.
I just came down to see if anyone else was thinking the same thing I was, or if I was just being finicky. I can't keep watching because of that annoying voice.
The narration sounds like a 20 minute long promo for a Disney Channel show.
I knoooowww I'm going crazy
Its like they got his nuts in a vice grip...
The real crime here is that this is not a single guy's youtube channel, but it was a team of people from a pretty successful sports network that made this decision to let this poor guy behind the wheel... why? There's got to be a good story behind this
Narration is the worst
Imagine being put down simply bc your voice whilst people ignore the stellar research and effort you put into your video…….
Why can't he speak like a normal human being instead of a cartoon character?
I love how you think it's normal to insult strangers but not normal to speak a certain way. YOU"RE SO NORMAL
He sound like Ronald McDonald 😂
That's his normal voice.....
@@traci635 wow…😮
Totally if you sat down with this guy most hockey fans would school him on players stats etc. Guys weak
There’s no way this guy talks like that
I soooooooooooooooooooo miss having the Nordiques in Quebec... never cheered for them... never cheered against them... loved to have them in Quebec. (Whaler fan here)
If the Nordiques would have stayed in Quebec, they would have never won the cup in 96 because there is no way in Hell the Canadiens would have traded Roy to a provincial rival.
It was still a great team. They may have gotten a different goalie to be able push them over the top.
That team was stacked for sure even without roy@@TheGodYouWishYouKnew
@@TheGodYouWishYouKnewRoy is not replaceable.
@@mr.brenman2132 Funny. How did anyone beat him in his career then?
@@TheGodYouWishYouKnew So you think the greatest players ever at their position are replaceable? Interesting.
Quebec City has grown a lot. I’m from Montreal, live in Seattle. Have seen a historic franchise and the impact on a city, creation of a new franchise and the hordes of new hockey fans and am now hoping to see the rebirth of a once great franchise that will appeal to a much larger market nowadays
May I ask why you moved from Montreal to Seattle? I think Montreal is better overall.
@@TheGodYouWishYouKnew Yeah, cuz they handled covid so well, right?
@@paulevans8348 Is that the only thing that matters?
montreal will soon be a shithole like seattle
I am so hoping this is becoming a series. I adore defunct NHL teams
You're hoping for a Seals video, or hoping that the Seals return in the NHL?
If it is the latter, I'd say I hope not, because California has enough teams.
Ah yes, the White Skates.
The Golden Seals!
What happened to them?
I'm getting too old to remember things, like I used to. LoL
Did they become, the Cleveland Barons and then merge with the North Stars??
I know the other ones, without trouble.
The Kandad city Scouts became the Colorado Rockies and then The New Jersey devils.
I think it's time to check my Guide and Record book. Or I could use the internet.....Hmmm!
Cheers from Montreal Quebec Canada
@@malakaspawt3190 seals video. Lol I like em but there are enough teams in the California area that they aren't needed back.....unless San Jose did something like Carolina and had a Seals night 🤔
@@Pocketrocket-pj1us yes they did become cleveland and merge with minnesota, and then the sharks took half the north stars staff and players basically splitting the team in half
@@malakaspawt3190Canada has enough teams.
My dude you talk like a Dora the Explorer character
💀💀💀💀
It was 6 AM halfway through the Nagano Winter Olympics in 1998 and I was walking to my homestay after a long night, I was just about to begin walking up a steep set of stairs near one of the shrines when I look up and walking down are Eric Lindros and his father Carl...if you recall, Carl acted as his son's agent during the prolonged negotiations while he sat out a year and finally settled in Philadelphia... this is a rare occasion where I had maybe 15 seconds to say something in passing without being annoying by stopping their journey with an autograph ask or anything similar... I think I have a great little comment to reflect my hockey knowledge..."hey, you know if you had signed with the Nordique, you'd have already won a Cup with Colorado?"... Without missing a beat, Carl replies "If we had signed with the Nordiques, they'd never have left Quebec"... I was happily stunned...
The issues still remain. Small market. Weak Canadian dollar. High provincial taxes. In the case of the first two, Winnipeg is facing the same issues and it is possible they may relocate within the next ten years.
No one with sense would take the financial risk to make a team work in that city. It would be a money pit and I think Bettman and the other owners know this. But of course they have to put on a happy face for the media.
Still remember that celebration in Quebec City when the Avs won in 96 ⚜️🍻❄️
Is the snowflake for actual snow, or? Lol
Yeah, that was pathetic
Why would they celebrate? Seems weird.
@@aubsta1 Lol kinda.
Great piece, great visuals, love the old school look. The narration is ridiculous, no need to match the voice to the styling. It's not an actual kids info video from the 90's, you're just borrowing the stylistic appeal. He could have talked normally.
Agree. I really wanted to enjoy the video, but it was so hard to finish it because of the narration/his voice. I'm not sure if he actually talks like that or if it's just his voice. I don't want to shade him personally because I know your voice isn't something you can really change. Not everyone has a good natural narration voice, and that's okay.
@@oldmanspidey That's not his normal tone. I remember seeing some bloopers of him and his voice is really different. It seems like he (or the production team) thinks he has to alway talk with high enthusiasm, high pitch, to keep it intersesting.
Quebec City deserves another shot. There is no doubt in the modern era of the NHL it likely works - while not a huge city there is established base and solid hockey tradition. Such a shame the team relocated with that insane roster - it was absurd how well the Nordiques drafted even with Lindross refusing to play. I’m guessing it’s a decision he probably regrets having never won the cup. While it’s hard to predict the odds are high he does if he doesn’t hold out.
#BringbacktheNordiques
#QuebecNordiques
#NHLQuebecCity
Yeah lindros really missed out, along with the city of quebec. All it took was one more star player, as patrick roy would eventually prove....
Canadian dollar will devalue in the coming years. Still doesn't make economic sense if other larger American markets are out there
@@maxbolton5227 turns out you are wrong...
NHL teams that lose the most money from 2013-2022:
- Phoenix (relocated)
- Miami
- Raleigh-Durham
- Anaheim
South South South and South
Atlanta set the record for most money lost by any NHL team (130 million in losses from 2005 to 2010)
Winnipeg, and Edmonton, Ottawa, and Buffalo and Pittsburgh ALL GENERATE MORE MONEY FOR THE LEAGUE THAN THE PANTHERS, HURRICANES, DUCKS, AND COYOTES
Winnipeg has 835 thousand people and generates more money for the NHL than Miami, Atlanta, Phoenix or Anaheim....
Quebec will never get an expansion team. Adding a team there adds noting to the overall leagues value.
The only way they’ll get a team in the same way Winnipeg got a team back, a team has no better options available.
I miss the Nords. Best uniforms ever. Except for the Whalers
Nordiques jersey beats the whalers and its not even close. Immediately iconic + appreciated across generations (including those that were born decades after the movement of the Nordiques) vs an often personally nostalgic choice.
They are both great to me but since the Quebec one, is similar to our provincial flag, I must stand on guard for Les Nordiques!
Like I said though, it's very close and it's one of the reasons I collect older Hockey cards. I Love my PSA 9 Ron Francis RC but my 8.5 Peter Stastny, from the previous years set, is very nice, as well.
If you like defunct teams, you can't go wrong with the 72-73 OPC set. It has 40 or 50 WHA cards.
So you get to see Players from the New England Whalers, Alberta Oilers, a variation on the Nordiques Insignia and even the First Jets Logo!
Come to think of it. Those cards, are mostly airbrushed, Close up shots but each card has the new team Logo, including Bobby Hull, with the Winnipeg Jets.
Hull has a great smile, most likely because he had just finished signing a contract for,
1 Million Dollars , becoming the first Hockey player to make that much!
Later on in the decade,
O-Pee-Chee would release
4 sets, featuring only players from the Upstart league. (A better chance to see the different Jerseys!!
Must have been a great decade to be a fan. I wish I could have been old enough to enjoy the 67 expansion, up until the 1980's.
In the 12 or 13 years, of 1968 to 80.
Montreal won 8 Cups!!! (Including 4 in a row, at the end!
Now, in 2024. I get to celebrate 31 years without a cup and 30 for Canada, depensing on the
Canucks, or the Oilers.
I'm pulling for a Florida Vs
Vancouver final. That would guarantee a team that has never won, will Finally do their fans proud.
Who are You guys pulling for? LMK if you get the chance :)
Peace and Love, from La Belle Province. To be More specific, Cheers from Montreal Quebec Canada.
@@Pocketrocket-pj1usmy brother kept a whole stash of WHA hockey cards since he was a kid decades ago. Teams such as the Cleveland Barons,California Golden Seals, you name it. They're certainly interesting. I agree that the Nordiques jersey is the best of the lot. Cheers
@@havierbardem820Yeah just present your sujective opinion as fact you British cigarette. The Whalers were around longer the Nordiques. The Carolina hurricanes have a Whalers night every year. We get that you're a Canuck but you don't need to inject that into every opinion that you have.
Red Wings have the best uniforms ever.
The move to Denver most likely save this franchise. It's always sad when teams leave their fans😢
All the people chirping the voice haven’t listened to the content. This is a Stellar video (regardless of Mickey Mouse narrating it)
Maybe if the voice was slowed down a bit it'd be easier on the ears
:/ yes
The lindros trade was like the hershel walker trade
What could be more Canadian than good teams in Montreal, Quebec, Ottawa and Toronto ?
Just love the blue sky, blue water and sound of your dipping paddle, Daryl. Very curious : you didn’t comment on the vast number of trees in the water - it looked like you were paddling in the Louisiana Bayou or the Florida Everglades (I’ve kayaked through tree’s in the latter). Do you know the explanation for the high water /flooding in this area this year? Certainly can’t be snow melt! Let me know your thoughts. Cheers! RC
5:00 seeing the sabres in first place is a crazy sight to behold😂
The only thing I could never understand is when when they realigned the divisions they didn't put Toronto in the Adams Division along with Boston, Buffalo, Hartford, Montreal and Quebec.
Probably had allot to do with backroom deals and concessions.
Did they want an equal number of original 6 teams in each conference?
Tor/Mtl might say were not going in to the others arena on a sat night, not losing their traditional home sat game.
Other teams might balk at it like Chicago and Detroit, this was the first year of playing your division teams 7/8 times a season. So divisions now meant something, before it was really 4 div champs and 12 wild card teams.
You would never get a Toronto Montreal finals.
It was the Harold Ballard era 😂
Vancouver is the reason they played each team 4 times before this, they didn't want to lose dates to the eastern Canadian teams.
Winnipeg got some concessions to move back to the Smythe after one season, but can't remember what it was right now.
Always backroom deals or bribes 😂 to get things done.
i lasted six minutes with this voice. jesus
Same. I just couldn't listen to it. Gives me anxiety.
Wonderful video ! What a great work !!!
Except for the guys voice
As a Wings I always laugh it was Detroit who chased Roy from the net. Causing the trade to Colorado in that first Season. Then beating the Wings in the Conference Finals.
Man I have such great memories of playing hockey out in the front of my house in NYC growing up. My friends that taught me how to play hockey and introduced me to hockey were really good and I used to play goaltender for them. Their dad was an electrician that did some work on Wayne Gretzky house and they had a signed stick by Wayne Gretzky I would always see when I would go to their house. The video in the begin thrust reminded me of being a kid for a second. Very nice video.
My mom worked in the hotel where the Oilers were staying and in the morning Gretzky signed the cheque for his room, my momm & her colleagues photocopied the cheque for me & my brother! That was way back in 83 - God only knows what happened to that photocopied cheque!
* in Toronto
I'm a Buffalo dude. Them Sabres vs Quebec games were FAN-TAB!!!!!! I miss the Nordiques!
The final season the Nordiques spent in Québec City (1994-95), they had the East's No. 1 seed. The No. 8 Rangers stunned them by advancing past the first round in 6 games. Not the best way to go out. Getting back to the present day, there's a lot of talk of Québec City getting another shot at the NHL, but I'm not sure how viable that would be. The present-day Jets (FKA the Atlanta Thrashers), who are in a similarly sized market, have had attendance issues in recent years partially because of the composition of their season ticket base. While the other 6 Canadian clubs enjoy robust corporate support regarding season tickets, the Jets don't have it like that because about 85% of their season ticket base consists of personal accounts and that's unsustainable, especially considering the state of Winnipeg's economy. How big is the Québec City market's corporate base? A ton of corporate support is mandatory, especially with a weak Canadian dollar and player salaries having to be paid in American dollars.
Thank you. It's not just the fan bases that support these teams, but corporations that provide critical funding.
I’m still old enough to briefly remember the Nordiques.
Automatic up vote for using Lanny McDonald's picture to represent Rockies hockey.
love how this guy is and sounds like a cartoon caracter! dude you rock! GREAT VIDEO Thanks for the lesson!
As an islander fan, I find it incredible that the team still exists in New York. If it weren’t for those 4 cups, I’m certain the team would be playing elsewhere.
Isles fan as well. Yes, teams who have won a championship almost never move in any sport. The Islanders had a dynasty. It would be a huge black eye for them to leave. Plus, they're a New York team. No league wants to admit that a New York team can't survive
@@MrOctober44The Islanders got a 1 billion dollar arena/entertainment district and their own train station. The people wanted them in Long Island. That's why they are still there.
Avs should do a game out in Quebec during the regular season in the new arena
In vintage WHA Jerseys to boot!
The one thing I find funny about American/ Canadian major sports leagues is the whole relocation of teams, there would be riots in Europe If any major sports team did that
Very cool 😎
The Nordiques were awesome. Added some culture and colour to the league and the rivalry between Montreal and Quebec was the most vicious rivalry in the league by far. Epic battles.
The fan base was awesome. But in today’s world owners have to be billionaires that treat the team like a toy. They make their money in the back end from the appreciation of the team’s value and are willing to eat operating losses. We almost lost our team in Edmonton until the $4 billion man came along and saved the team.
In today’s NHL corporate sponsorship is critical to the success of an NHL team. In the states some teams don’t sell out but the revenue from corporate sponsorship makes it still a viable enterprise. That’s a struggle in a place like Quebec and I think it was a big reason why they moved.
If you don’t have a billionaire, that’s willing to handle losses and have big pocket corporate sponsors success is difficult. Especially if your arena only hold 15,000. Which is the case in Quebec city.
I hope they come back as they were so good for the league. But I don’t see anybody paying a $1 billion expansion fee to lose money every year.
This was a high-quality, well-produced video that was also very informative. But like others have said, is the voice real? Maybe slowing down might help, because it sounds very shrill...
I almost came that close to stop watching because of this guy's voice but I suffered through it
Quebec City's metro area is about 800,000 people, so it's not a small town. Furthermore, the Nords were not a separatist team. They were just a hockey team. Their fanbase deserves another team.
that’s pretty small by pro sports standards. here’s some similar US metros: dayton, little rock and des moines. good minor league cities but definitely aren’t big enough for a major professional team.
800k is small. Ottawa is considered one of the smallest market in the NHL and has a metro population of 1.6 millions. Litterally double.
Winnipeg is similar in size to Quebec but the Jets lose $20-30 million a year. Only works because the owner is one of the richest Canadian
@@UserName-ts3sp Yeah, but the United States has 10 times the population of Canada. In this country, Quebec City is the 8th largest metro area. It would be like saying that Washington D.C., a metro area of 7 million people, doesn't deserve a hockey team. Also, this is where hockey was born. It's natural that smaller cities in Canada can support professional hockey. They don't have anything else to compete with it. Quebec City even has a relatively new arena that can seat 18,000 and was built in 2015. When it comes to other sports, obviously Quebec City wouldn't have a team. But for hockey, Quebec City's metro area is the size of Winnipeg. Does Green Bay not deserve a football team because it's not a large city? Of course they do. Their team is consistently good too. What good is a big city if they have no hockey fans? Atlanta had 2 teams and they both ended up in Canada, in much smaller cities, that support them really well. I hope they get a 3rd chance. If they do, that team will probably end up in Quebec City.
@@TribuneoftheplebsYeah but Manitoba has a pop of 1.3M Qc has 9M not even taking in considaration the maritimes provinces who would get a team closer to them
So many ex Nordiques players who could have given us an excellent narrated journey but no, just couldn't let us have something good.
Dale Hunter's second most famous NHL moment.
They need to get the team back. I'm a Ranger fan and no one I knew at the time was happy about that move. They were also my team on NES NHL94 !! Sundin,Sakic,Owen, Ricci, Kamensky ,Hextall....I was unstoppable!! 😂
I wasn't even born yet but I remember those early Nordiques days
Great information and presentation. Mickey Mouse has gotta go though
Whalers fan here. Do us next if you haven't
I miss the Whalers, the whole Adam's division. Fun memories. Who was your favorite? I will do a small tribute piece on Kevin Dineen soon. Met him a couple times recently. My favorite Whalers 1 Dineen 2 Francis 3 Luit.
Cassels, primeau, I was really young when they left Hartford so I don't remember too much of it, I just remember we could root for anybody but the Bruins after that lol
@oddballskull1941 Yeah, too bad they left. Kevin Dineen came back to Hartford as the team captain, scored the last goal in Hartford franchise, and then first goal when in Carolina. And for Cassels and Primeau, interestingly, both have sons that reached the pro level and were AHL rivals in the same division.
What a gut punch for the team to win the cup the very same year they leave.
Yeah i remember those guys. Cool name imo, and loved the logo
I want a team back there but the only way I see it happening now is if the NHL expands to 36 teams. When (not if) they expand again it'll be back to Phoenix and back to Atlanta first. The markets are too big and as we've seen in Seattle and Vegas, if you give them more than 4th line players and have good ownership, they can succeed. I think they want Houston too and so the way things currently are, they would have to add a team to the East too and imo, the only place left is Quebec City. I will also add, I don't want them to expand. 32 is more than enough but there is too much $$ there for the NHL not to.
Great video just tell the speaker to chill on the enthusiasm I feel like I’m listening to a kids cartoon . Good speaker just tone it down lol
15,080 was actually their 2nd best year ever attendance wise lol it didnt dwindle, it grew to that. Shouldve used the following year as your example, it fell to 14.1k.
Talk tougher than James Cagney
Act smarter than Charlie Chan
Love longer than Valentino
Or you'll never be a man
That's a song quotation from the song James Cagney by Nik Kershaw. It's from the album Radiomusicola. Based on this guy's voice from the video, you should give this song a listen.
Bro sounds like he’s about to sell me fun slides
Would love a episode on Hartford like this.
Two words "Marcel Aubut".
2 words, Gary Bettman. Aubut was member of the NHL board of governors for 16 years.
It's like The Score was mocking the Nords, NHL history or themselves with that voice.
the Avs say thankyou . Great series on Prime about Joe Sakic signing challenges when the Rangers offered him a ton of money
Thought it was ESPN+...
Many Québec nationalists were fans of the Nordiques but the New Orleans Saints also sports a Fleur de lys on their jersey and I don't know any of their fans around here
What a kick in the balls, the team moved then immediatly wins the Cup tjat year. However , i doubt The Habs make the Roy trade if they stayed in quebec city.
Another quality content 💯
Crazy that San Jose has a hockey team but Quebec doesn't
LOL at 7:42 they wrote Marian Stastny twice & left out poor Antoine
Cool video. Brought to you hey helium.
I don't which is more unbelievable: Quebec having three consecutive first round picks or that they traded All of them!!
Look, I think this video is pretty good, but this narrator is just not fit for speaking longer than 2 minutes. You can't have a speaking voice that sounds like Mickey Mouse's second cousin and expect me or any listener to hang in past the 6- or 7-minute mark. It's just not playable. Find another narrator.
Alright everyone calm down, if yotuve been watching thescore for the last 5 years you will know its just what this guy sounds like. If its not your cup of tea, just leage it alone. Stop looking for likes for putting someone down.
I'll never forgive Andy Van Hellemond.
Imagine they get that call right, best team in the East for the 48 game season, would have loved to see them for one last deep playoff run.
Ramenez les Nordiques à Québec !
Dood you have to do one about the refffsss
will be golden with that voice lol
The NHL is not going back to Quebec City. Give it up.
Sadly it will never happen. There is not enough corporate sponsorship potential there and not enough population
that voice is killer
Swiper no swiping! This guy reminds me of my daughter's Dora videos...
You had 2 marians in the group photo of brothers.
Eric didn't like Aubut or Carl and Bonnie didn't?
At the time, I was furious at Lindros. But time did reveal that Aubut was an a*hole and did sexual harassment to Lindros' mother.
5:30
I just wanted to see if I heard you correctly. I'll paraphrase what you said. After the first time Les Nordiques won 1/
ONE GAME. After this solitary win. You said. 'They were finally on the same level, as the Montreal Canadiens?' A team with 85 years of awards, Championships and a tradition of winning.
So, according to 'SPORTSNET' 'To reach the same level, as a team that had just won 4 straight,
NHL STANLEY CUPS. 22 overall, at this time. Had ONLY Missed the Playoffs ONCE, since the 1967 expansion, ONLY because the NHL kept the 'Original 6' teams, in the same division and put all of the New teams in a seperate new division. In the first 2 Years, Montreal won the Cup the first 2 In the 3rd year. They missed the playoffs on the last day of the season, finishing with 92 Points, which would have put them, in first place, in the New Division!) lol
The following season. The NHL Changed the divisions, After that season Montreal didn't miss the playoffs again, until the strike Shortened 94-95 (48) game season. Which coincidently, was the last season of the the Nordiques in Quebec, which is still tragic!
Imagine moving Calgary, or Edmonton. Or Toronto/ Ottawa. The battle for a province, or State, removes organic rivalries!!
So, Just to conclude 20 minutes of reading, 'The Score' or whomever wrote
this, has a vsry small grasp on this subject!
GAME ON!!
The butthurt is strong in this one.
I'm just putting it out there. The rest of Canada wants Quebec to separate from Canada more than Quebec does
Le club de hockey Le Canadien de Montréal ne voulait pas des Nordiques de Québec...
Who's the narrator? Dan from Seinfeld?
Are you the voice of Peter Puck??
Hey guy. Calm down...you squeak when you talk loudly.
When the Nordiques started playing in Quebec to did everyone in the city suddenly stop being Habs. fans ?
This almost appears to be lip synched.
La ligue ne voulais pas d'équipe canadienne en finale de la coupe Stanley...
7:36 hmm the same name
Lay off the helium buddy
They didnt vanish. They became one of the greatest hockey oganizations in the world.
Don't forget the original Colorado Rockies moved to new Jersey becoming the devil's, and won a Stanley cup. So, it's only fair we got a stacked nordique's team that won right away.
@@inderjitbhatti7496 So Qc should get a stacked team too, only makes sens
@@inderjitbhatti7496 " it's only fair we got a stacked Nordiques team that won right away."
that math doesn't add up
Colorado Rockies moved in 1982...
New Jersey won in 1994...
Nordiques moved in 1995, the Colorado Avalanche won in 1996...no it is not fair.
It's one of many reasons why Canadians hate Gary Bettman and US hockey so badly...
@@sampicano ha ha I realized it after I said it. My bad! Your right.
You'll can have the Golden knights. Vegas shouldn't have any sports teams anyways. That shit is straight hypocrisy at its finest.
@sampicano The irony, what a different take from the previous league President John Zeigler on Canadian fans.
Since it's been 29 years since the Quebec Nordiques moved to Denver, give it up
The Nordiques are a victim of politics. There was and still is a strong sentiment among Quebec francophones for an independent nation. There is also a division where many francophones are against a seperate country. In Quebec hockey is highly politicized and winning in hockey comes with a nationalistic pride no matter that the players may be francophones, anglophones, European or American. The Canadiens were more identified with the faction that did not support sovereignty while Les Nordiques were more the team to demonstrate Quebec nationalism. From a financial perspective Quebec City was already a small market but with a sovereign Quebec the marketing potential of Les Nordiques would be next to nil outside in the real world. Likewise even star players on a team that would be unpopular yet vilified for political reasons elsewhere would gather no promotional revenue. The player might be one of the best in the league but outside Quebec he would be an anti-hero. This is the real reason the Lindros affair unfolded as it did. While there are naturally many Bruin fans across the US there are also many Bruin fans in Canada too. Same for other NHL teams. That would not be the case for Les Nordiques with an independent Quebec. In that scenario you might get as much support for Les Nordiques as a team in the Swiss Professional league. The added risk given the political uncertainty affects drastically the financial viability.
Ancient history
Bro, you need to add some totesrone in your voice
Quebec should come back. They have a wonderful arena and a good fanbase and I would love to have them back in the NHL
It’s an AHL hockey team market unfortunately. Population is too small and no room for growth.
Edit: I’d love to them back too, but it’d be a bad financial decision for the league. Winnipeg already struggles to fill its small arena. If the population were to grow significantly, Quebec would be back.
@@chevelle1 Maybe give them an AHL team then
Birenbaum ✡️
Dale Hunter. Iykyk. Crazy
What if the NHL were to offset the difference of the Canadian and American dollar so as yo pay (and keep) Canada hockey talent in Canada? Gary Betman would rather chew razor blades.
Had to mute the vid and turn on CC
Fleur de lys has nothing to do with separatist party and was never political.
Also, attendance never lowered. Colisée was full most games. Capacity made them one of the lowest in the league.
It’s much easier to keep a franchise than it is to get one You now have to convince 32 owners in an elite fraternity that QC deserves another chance. Not happening. QC entered the league by chance and blew it. The NHL will never go back to QC.
As a diehard Avs fan I have immense respect and love for Quebec and the Nordiques. But that said, I would be gutted to see a the Nordiques revived in Quebec. Its part of all of our shared history. And would be sad to see a brand new expansion team get to claim the Nordiques as theirs. Id rather see it be a new team with a new identity
It's funny to think that Canadians would allow the Quebec market to leave it's revenue stream. Quebec will never get a team.