EVGA GTX 1660 Super Review & NVIDIA's Confusing Lineup

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  • Опубліковано 28 жов 2019
  • NVIDIA's GTX 1660 Super is up for benchmark and review today, and we're testing it most vs. the 1660, 1660 Ti, RX 580 & 590, RX 5700, and other cards.
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    The NVIDIA GTX 1660 Super will be joining the GTX 1660 and 1660 Ti, both of which will continue to exist in the video card lineup. AMD's most direct competition would primarily include the lower-priced RX 580 (or RX 590, but same thing sans overclocking deltas) and the higher-priced RX 5700. NVIDIA's 1660 Ti will remain more expensive than the GTX 1660 Super, which should start at $230, and the GTX 1660 non-Super, non-Ti will end up around $200-$210. Now, it seems, NVIDIA will have a card nearly every $20, which is actually certifiably insane. The 1660 Super does have a place, it's just that it takes some effort to define where all the cards land now.
    The higher-end is still embattled between the RX 5700 XT and 2070 Super, with the top-tier cards largely left to the 2080 Ti. AMD is expected to release more RX 5000-series Navi GPUs at some point, likely competing with the 1660 Super directly, but we don't yet know a firm date on launch.
    In our benchmarks today, we're looking at power consumption, gaming performance, and comparative performance versus some other popular graphics cards, including older devices like the GTX 960, RX 570, GTX 1060, and more to help determine if it's "worth it."
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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  4 роки тому +64

    Watch our video with Wendell of Level1Techs where we tear down a nearly 30-year-old handheld computer! ua-cam.com/video/EAu_ym9J8h0/v-deo.html

    • @calex1290
      @calex1290 4 роки тому

      Forgot the Titan RTX which technically is part of the RTX line up, makes it 12 so far

    • @qxe1328
      @qxe1328 4 роки тому

      Remember use protection to prevent STD’s and 12 GPU SKU’s

  • @Gombeen1916
    @Gombeen1916 4 роки тому +1044

    Keeping my hard earned cash for the 1660 ti super duper.

    • @fie1329
      @fie1329 4 роки тому +51

      They Need to put more x in there. It should be like GTX 1660 Super Xtreme XL
      This way the card is less limitted by the absence of X in the name and therefore perform better. Like AMD whene they decided to put rx int the name or xt for the faster card. rx 5700 xt is only faster because of the x in xt. It's that simple.
      On CPUs it is also simple. Performance is better when there are higher digits in the number. Corecount is irrelevant. This is Intels secret.

    • @Silamon2
      @Silamon2 4 роки тому +7

      @@fie1329 Following your logic, wouldn't the ryzen 3900x be better than intel? It has an X in it and none of the intel models do.
      Or is it different for cpus?

    • @DawidSikora
      @DawidSikora 4 роки тому +5

      @@fie1329 GTX 1660x Super Xtreme XL X

    • @MailmanRSO
      @MailmanRSO 4 роки тому +11

      Supa Dupa Fly Missy Elliot Edition

    • @mattyclad9185
      @mattyclad9185 4 роки тому +6

      @@fie1329 They need to put "gaming" in there somewhere so they can also raise the price $50 😂

  • @nealtrussell1753
    @nealtrussell1753 4 роки тому +480

    NVIDIA is giving us choice at 5MHz intervals... great...

    • @rizz1968
      @rizz1968 4 роки тому

      lol

    • @georgemorley1029
      @georgemorley1029 4 роки тому +24

      Not £5 or $5 dollar intervals though.

    • @silure9502
      @silure9502 4 роки тому +7

      when will you guys will understand that mhz dont make everything

    • @spacecy
      @spacecy 4 роки тому

      Lmfao

    • @thetrashman5252
      @thetrashman5252 4 роки тому +6

      Sadly Turing can only adjust it's core frequencies at 15mhz increments. I still can't wait for the GTX 1660Ti +15mhz with a 15mhz factory overclock from Nvidia.

  • @qxe1328
    @qxe1328 4 роки тому +510

    Ok
    This is why you use protection or you get a family of 12

    • @SkeleCrafteronYT
      @SkeleCrafteronYT 4 роки тому +5

      Jebaited!

    • @M3PH11
      @M3PH11 4 роки тому +9

      Only in america, where making informed choices that affect your entire life is illegal

    • @8lack8bird
      @8lack8bird 4 роки тому +4

      ma N dude got no pullout game

    • @3DGECASE
      @3DGECASE 4 роки тому +1

      @@M3PH11 Birth control is illegal in America? That's abominable!

    • @3DGECASE
      @3DGECASE 4 роки тому

      @@vyor8837 I forgot to add a sarcasm tag

  • @Gunnberg85
    @Gunnberg85 4 роки тому +188

    Final 1660 mention count:
    78

    • @oneeyedlittleman
      @oneeyedlittleman 4 роки тому +16

      Acceptable range is between 16 and 60

    • @Verpal
      @Verpal 4 роки тому +1

      @@oneeyedlittleman Why do you discriminate those who under 16? We must defeat this ageist society by lowering our acceptable range!

    • @Gunnberg85
      @Gunnberg85 4 роки тому

      1660 always in moderation. That's the ultimate lesson to be learned here. Take note, Nvidia. By the way, Nintendo called. They want their 'Super' back.

    • @EnvAdam
      @EnvAdam 4 роки тому

      @@oneeyedlittleman oh well shit, looks like Steve might get yelled at by nvidia for not including subliminal advertisement, has to get those nvidia dollars somehow? (sarcasm)

    • @MultiTelan
      @MultiTelan 4 роки тому

      Holy crap you actually counted?

  • @TeoTH80
    @TeoTH80 4 роки тому +173

    "AMD is confusing customers with their naming scheme"
    Nvidia: Hold my cuda cores

  • @djk8541
    @djk8541 4 роки тому +277

    How many bags of money did Thermal Grizzly give you shills for the background product placement? Lot of Gamers Nexus merch laying around too, how much is Steve paying you, Steve?

    • @_Munchboy_
      @_Munchboy_ 4 роки тому +17

      Did I just find the best comment on UA-cam

    • @meareweird7714
      @meareweird7714 4 роки тому +10

      I noticed the AMD shroud and the Pulse, these keep staying in my vision event though he is talking about Nvidia this whole video. Hmmm...

    • @berengerchristy6256
      @berengerchristy6256 4 роки тому +15

      meareweird how much did AMD pay NVIDIA pay Steve to pay Steve to...
      Fuck

    • @djk8541
      @djk8541 4 роки тому +1

      @@berengerchristy6256 Look at that XFX card front and center. I bet it cost them a bundle after that THICC disaster

    • @soupwizard
      @soupwizard 4 роки тому +8

      Wait did you just expose that Steve is shilling for Gamers Nexus?!? That could blow this whole story wide open!

  • @thomasuniat2939
    @thomasuniat2939 4 роки тому +55

    Steve's Nvidia performance table is going to look like his case performance table by spring.

  • @cmdr_thrudd
    @cmdr_thrudd 4 роки тому +200

    I miss the old days when you'd get like 4 SKU's per life cycle. A cheap one, an average one, an enthusiast one and an overpriced one :D

    • @PinkBunnyCorporation
      @PinkBunnyCorporation 4 роки тому +12

      Me too. If you want new consumers to hate you, this is how you do it.

    • @thelegendaryklobb2879
      @thelegendaryklobb2879 4 роки тому +7

      AMD is doing it fine with Navi

    • @BombaJead
      @BombaJead 4 роки тому +24

      Well now you get all overpriced ones :D
      *For what they are compared to the previous gen.

    • @nathangamble125
      @nathangamble125 4 роки тому +4

      @@thelegendaryklobb2879 Well, we've only got 2 so far, and it looks more like we'll get:
      A crap one that shouldn't even exist.
      A low-end one that undercuts the 1660 super/Ti while matching its performance
      A midrange one that undercuts the 2060 super while matching its performance
      A marginally better one that undercuts the 2070 super while matching its performance
      It's not much of a range, really. At least it helps stop Nvidia ripping us off (but still, the compute unit counts, die size, and memory bus of these cards make it obvious how much they should actually cost)

    • @nathangamble125
      @nathangamble125 4 роки тому

      @@thelegendaryklobb2879 Well, we've only got 2 so far, and it looks more like we'll get:
      A crap one that shouldn't even exist.
      A low-end one that undercuts the 1660 super/Ti while matching its performance
      A midrange one that undercuts the 2060 super while matching its performance
      A marginally better one that undercuts the 2070 super while matching its performance
      It's not much of a range, really. At least it helps stop Nvidia ripping us off (but still, the compute unit counts, die size, and memory bus of these cards make it obvious how much they should actually cost)

  • @Adrian-jj4xk
    @Adrian-jj4xk 4 роки тому +96

    at least they're all getting different names this time around, as opposed to (how many? 5?) different cards all named "gtx 1060"

    • @Bigdude0444
      @Bigdude0444 4 роки тому +6

      That's fair.

    • @auturgicflosculator2183
      @auturgicflosculator2183 4 роки тому +6

      It's 7 I think. Might be more depending on how many cut-down limited export versions they stealth-released :P

    • @LetsPlayBojangles
      @LetsPlayBojangles 4 роки тому +10

      Agreed. What Nvidia is doing now is annoying but fine. What they did with the 1030 was almost illegal.

    • @Merkavastreetfighter
      @Merkavastreetfighter 4 роки тому

      they took our criticism literally lol

    • @agoogleuser9025
      @agoogleuser9025 4 роки тому

      Kenneth Yaeger mx150! for laptops.
      Also, it still feels like the same name. 1660Ti is acceptable but I look at stores and even stores I think confuses the pricing of 1660 and 1660 Super

  • @nunbran
    @nunbran 4 роки тому +3

    great video, thank you for breaking down the price ranges with your recommendations. I'm currently planning 2 separate builds with a difference in budget of about $2000, all of the benchmarks helped.

  • @lepton_01
    @lepton_01 2 роки тому +15

    Looking back at this, we were angry that NVidia had too many GPUs, now... the whole thing is on fire.

  • @beefrogers9230
    @beefrogers9230 4 роки тому +48

    im pretty sure the SC in EVGA GTX 1660 Super SC Ultra stands for *Super* Clocked sooo.... it`s an EVGA GTX 1660 Super *Super* Clocked Ultra.
    nice.

    • @Enclosure_2k
      @Enclosure_2k 4 роки тому +1

      Wait what??

    • @steffeeH
      @steffeeH 4 роки тому +4

      @@Enclosure_2k Exactly

    • @HollowPs
      @HollowPs 4 роки тому +12

      They also have a SSC lineup. So we could get an EVGA GTX 1660 Super Super *Super* Clocked.

    • @sirmyself
      @sirmyself 4 роки тому +7

      @@Enclosure_2k It actually does, EVGA's marketing of their graphics card have been like this for a while where their "SC" lineup is "not top of the line, but pretty dang good" and "SC" does stand for Super Clocked...
      Nvidia is just... being either idiots or douches with the Turing cards by bloating the market with useless additional card tiers. They try to undercut the AMD cards sales by basically having a graphics card at *every single price point* instead of being actually competitive with their prices within the tiers we have been used to for at least a decade now...

    • @Enclosure_2k
      @Enclosure_2k 4 роки тому

      @@sirmyself I have no words for this.... nvidia is just -_- with this gpus. Why this even here? Isnt 2060 cheap AF now?

  • @rh4009
    @rh4009 3 роки тому +6

    Ah, 2019, the good old times. It is now June 2021 and graphics cards are sold practically exclusively by scalpers. The 1660Super street price is US$650-800+, as the RTX 3000 cards are simply not available or not affordable, with 3060 street price over $1000
    $230 seems like a steal.
    I came back to this review to see if a 1660S would be good enough for a new PC build.

    • @maximumframes8416
      @maximumframes8416 3 роки тому

      1650s and 1660s are both great choices for 1080p. Either card will be impressive at that resolution. If you want to stream or record your playing however skip the 1650S. My FPS drop by 20 frames during certain events just recording with the 1650S the 1660S does not have that problem.

    • @plastifiedmetal5682
      @plastifiedmetal5682 2 роки тому

      This comment didnt age well, fortunately :p

    • @peep3298
      @peep3298 Рік тому

      The 1660 Super plummeted in price I bought mine for 214 recently for a CAD modeling rig workstation gaming computer thing

  • @dragontales1999
    @dragontales1999 3 роки тому +23

    I'm so glad to even have this card. 1660 Super owners should be hugging their GPU in times like these lol.

    • @psyborg01
      @psyborg01 7 місяців тому

      I still have mine and it's running like a champ.. I'm not running anything on 1440 or even 4k, I feel 1080 is my sweet spot in gaming experience and I run all my games full specs without any hiccups.

    • @dragontales1999
      @dragontales1999 7 місяців тому

      @psyborg01 I don't own a 1660 Super anymore. In January 2022 I replaced it with a 6600XT and then in January 2023 I got a 4070 Ti.

  • @MrMiddleWick
    @MrMiddleWick 4 роки тому +26

    I find it funny how Steve stutters as his mind needs to take a while to make sure he's referencing the right card, although can't blame him

  • @mr.bitsbyte4664
    @mr.bitsbyte4664 4 роки тому +19

    19:20 better watch out Steve, your arm is covering the branding on the 1080 Ti and Titan boxes... big green wont be happy about that

  • @innnffxxi
    @innnffxxi 4 роки тому +57

    NVidia learned how to rename existing products without being blamed: append "Super"

    • @wewillrockyou1986
      @wewillrockyou1986 4 роки тому +5

      Except this card might as well be a Ti... Unlike in other cases where they name a card the same then have a DDR3 and GD5 model where they perform 2x as fast with the faster memory these border margin of error in performance.

    • @budgetbajur
      @budgetbajur 4 роки тому +2

      @@wewillrockyou1986 yes, 2nd 1660 Ti would make much more sense

    • @johnscott3942
      @johnscott3942 4 роки тому +6

      soon to be followed by the "Super Duper"

    • @cgnefarious5785
      @cgnefarious5785 4 роки тому +5

      @@johnscott3942 "Super Duper" did not perform well with test groups. Instead they've decided to go with "Superer."

    • @nogravitas7585
      @nogravitas7585 4 роки тому +3

      @@cgnefarious5785 Super evolves into Superer which evolves into Superest.

  • @optiquest86
    @optiquest86 4 роки тому +32

    Is it possible to add a hyphen between the card name and its state of being stock/OC? The charts are getting to be cluttered enough that it's becoming harder to quickly parse everything without pausing on every screen.
    Eg.
    EVGA GTX 1660 Super - Stock
    EVGA GTX 1660 Super - OC +150/700

  • @Just4KL
    @Just4KL 4 роки тому +20

    15:07 the moment of Overclocking...
    Vega 56 Stock 109 fps in 1080p and vega 56 UV + OC - 129 fps
    in 1440p stock 84 fps, UV+OC - 100 FPS..... Wow. That is awesome!

  • @DerToasti
    @DerToasti 4 роки тому +1

    Honestly it's not complicated having up to 3 versions of one card. It's not like they overlap in performance either. You have 16

  • @technicalfool
    @technicalfool 4 роки тому +87

    "We can't drop prices, all the crypto miners are buying the supply!"
    "Oh here have 50 gigatons of useless silicon with a couple of cards worth buying."
    Yyyyyeeeeeeaaaaahhhhhhh ok.

  • @Vile23
    @Vile23 4 роки тому +1

    This massive lineup reminds me of the early 2000's and my first jump into PC gaming. I remember walking into best buy to purchase a new card graphics card for my $500 Compaq and being totally shocked by the huge selection and confusing naming conventions. I had no clue which was card was better than the other based off the names/numbers. Nice to see both companies keeping the trend going...

  • @PastorwithoutaPulpit
    @PastorwithoutaPulpit 4 роки тому +1

    Vega 56 can be found on sale here in the States at the sub $300 price point quite often which adds another card into the mix at these price points. It also basically crushes all cards in sub $300 price category...
    It's really quite confusing as to why we have so many GPUs with just incremental performance gains over cards already in this congested price category. Thanks for another great review GN...

  • @Razor2048
    @Razor2048 4 роки тому +30

    I can't wait for Intel to release a consumer gaming GPU, this price gouging is just insane.

    • @solarstrike33
      @solarstrike33 4 роки тому

      Also the Big Navi rumors.

    • @CoCo.-_-
      @CoCo.-_- 4 роки тому +6

      @@solarstrike33 tbh we are always waiting for amd to do something but it always ends up underwhelming, at least they are doing amazing stuff in the cpu market

    • @whatdafarkenhell7110
      @whatdafarkenhell7110 4 роки тому +3

      Because intel pricing good? GTFOH

    • @Razor2048
      @Razor2048 4 роки тому +6

      @@whatdafarkenhell7110 their pricing is bad but to enter the market they will have to undercut for a while, and it is harder to price fix with 3 companies than it is with 2.

    • @raawesome3851
      @raawesome3851 4 роки тому

      @@CoCo.-_- honestly, that was true until navi. Right now, the 2070 super is around the performance of the 5700 xt, which costs 100 dollars less. Also, they are going to expand the navi lineup. It isn't vega, or Polaris.

  • @therevanchist1123
    @therevanchist1123 4 роки тому +14

    Webster’s Super: above,beyond
    Nvidia’s Super: Rebrand

  • @davidtolley1374
    @davidtolley1374 4 роки тому +3

    You forgot the Titan V and it's subsequent Super model are Turing as well.

  • @JayzBeerz
    @JayzBeerz 2 роки тому +1

    what was the VRAM running at on the ti and S? was it 12Gbps or 14Gbps?

  • @blackmennewstyle
    @blackmennewstyle 4 роки тому

    Looking forward to the tear-down

  • @SawBlood45
    @SawBlood45 4 роки тому

    This week I began planning my new build from my FX6300 750ti set up.
    DAMN have things changed. The Ryzens are incredible and the GPU market is insane. Spent a couple of days alone comparing the Nvidia cards from the past 3 years. I'm glad I waited cause ima be able to build what would cost me $1500 in 2016 for almost half the price. RAM, SSDs, CPUS, everything is much cheaper. Very excited. the 2060 super is what I want for the new build and I think imma get a 1650 super for my old FX build just for the heck of it.

  • @WolfySnowy
    @WolfySnowy 4 роки тому +28

    Why is everyone forgetting the most important of them all? GT 1030!

    • @InterstellarCloudd
      @InterstellarCloudd 4 роки тому +12

      GT 1330 ti non super is my go to card😎

    • @paranoidrodent
      @paranoidrodent 4 роки тому +7

      Eh, a passively cooled 1030 is a good discrete card for a non-gamer who doesn't need HEDT compute performance. I dropped one into my HTPC and into my 70-year old dad's PC (his idea of gaming is solitaire) and they are a solid choice if you don't have or don't care for your existing integrated graphics option. The 1650 is a card without a bloody use. Too slow for gaming and overkill compared to a 1030 for a non-gamer system.

    • @paranoidrodent
      @paranoidrodent 4 роки тому

      @@bradhaines3142 My dad's got something that is total overkill in his laptop too. At least with those, they are kind of bundled in. It's not like they or the sales guys went out of their way to include high end discrete graphics. I have taught my dad enough that he knows that the baseline graphics and sound (hearing isn't what it used to be) will do the job. What he appreciates is a big crisp 2D image on his monitor so text is big and clear.
      Lots of older folks have PCs way overbuilt (or underbuilt) for their needs. I've seen senior partners at firms who insist on having bleeding edge PCs (while their admins have ancient dinosaurs unsuitable for their needs) and then literally use their monitors as post-it note boards. Just a status symbol to them. Thankfully most of that crowd have retired by now.

  • @FortuneSeek3rz
    @FortuneSeek3rz 4 роки тому

    How are the problems with the VRAM coming? Less, about the same or more?

  • @luckymefpv
    @luckymefpv 4 роки тому

    Which would you pick?? Zotac 1660 ti amp or evga 2060 xc ultra gaming???? Thank in advance!

  • @muhschaf
    @muhschaf 4 роки тому

    Where is the Articel of this video? can't find it on the website.

  • @noompunk
    @noompunk 4 роки тому +47

    I was discussing this card with my friend earlier and she's come to the conclusion that nVidia's nomenclature is dang confusing.

    • @Asdayasman
      @Asdayasman 4 роки тому +9

      Is your friend single?

    • @nemtudom5074
      @nemtudom5074 4 роки тому +2

      I guess Nvidia is in kahoots with Intel again..... That 10th gen lineup is even worse than this......

    • @Bigdude0444
      @Bigdude0444 4 роки тому

      That's on purpose.

    • @Thunterise
      @Thunterise 4 роки тому +1

      @@Asdayasman Even as a joke this is just sad

    • @robertp457
      @robertp457 4 роки тому

      noompunk is it? The higher the number the better and then super is better and ti is the best at each number.

  • @brianmccullough4578
    @brianmccullough4578 4 роки тому

    Hey that b roll of the rx580 had the card and the rx580 box in the same frames,so is that 2 product placements for AMD,or 1? Just trying to keep count. There are so many rules now

  • @andrewskaterrr
    @andrewskaterrr 4 роки тому

    Will the 1650ti have the same encoder as the 1660/s/ti?
    I want one for my PLEX server.

  • @TpPCeJA
    @TpPCeJA 4 роки тому

    Did you show this RamCache III software?

  • @paulcrandall2534
    @paulcrandall2534 2 роки тому

    I have an Asus Tuf GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 3 Fan I bought in June 2020. Is it still a legitimate piece of kit?

  • @iiiSaav
    @iiiSaav 4 роки тому

    Help please, I currently have a Ryzen 5 3600 on a B450 MB 16GB RAM and a Gigabyte GeForce 1660 super. Which should I upgrade next? Also which graphics card would be my next best upgrade?

  • @aexandereung5686
    @aexandereung5686 4 роки тому

    When will we get an SSD with a proper display on it?

  • @johnmijo
    @johnmijo 4 роки тому

    WAIT!?! I'm sure I counted one extra Team Green box in the background, what are you trying to pull ShillShack :p

  • @16-bit54
    @16-bit54 4 роки тому +5

    When the 1660 Super was first leaked I didn't expect much I thought it wouldn't perform that much better than a normal 1660 so I'm really surprised by the 1660 Super it's basically a 1660 Ti for $50 less I was planning on getting the 1660 Ti for my birthday on Saturday I'm gonna get the 1660 Super instead and get RDR2 with the money saved.

  • @RustyJamesify
    @RustyJamesify 4 роки тому

    Thank for your reviews as always.
    I'm still waiting for a potential 2080 Ti Super to justify swapping my 1080 Ti...

  • @eugkra33
    @eugkra33 4 роки тому

    So if this is a preemptive strike on the rx 5500 or 5500 XT, how long until we see those? Should not be longer than a week from now, given how close the last SUPER counter was.

  • @zZzSneak
    @zZzSneak 4 роки тому

    what did you do to that 1660 ti to make it hit +175 on the core??????????? the max i can hit is 125 on mine with a +1300 on mem

  • @ledgeri
    @ledgeri 4 роки тому +6

    Just a thought: you should keep the old cards in the graphs while they are in top5-top10 in the steam usage charts... probably huge margin would get that as usefull information :)

    • @cgnefarious5785
      @cgnefarious5785 4 роки тому +2

      I always try to figure out where my 980 TI places in these comparisons so I can figure out how much longer I should hold out on upgrading, but it's never on there. =(

    • @ChrisPBacon9
      @ChrisPBacon9 4 роки тому +1

      @@cgnefarious5785 980 Ti is about on par with a GTX 1070 isnt it? You could use that card as a point of reference 🤔

  • @castigo1986
    @castigo1986 4 роки тому

    Pronouncing XVI and LX has never been more difficult... An applause for Steve's patience and eloquence! 😊

  • @triliner254
    @triliner254 4 роки тому

    0:52 I thought that was a mere secondary screen for your setup 🤣

  • @otobos9022
    @otobos9022 4 роки тому

    hey pls answer
    Which Best 1660S
    Evga SC ULTRA
    MSI GAMING X

  • @Singehog
    @Singehog 4 роки тому

    Could someone tell me what he means at 1:46 when he refers to a card as dead?

  • @cync9591
    @cync9591 4 роки тому

    gtx 1660 xc ultra not mentioned or did I miss it?

  • @imb2gs684
    @imb2gs684 4 роки тому

    I got a 2080 EVGA XC ultra gaming (non super) for $650. Should I just return it and get a 2070 super?

  • @rustyshackleford5668
    @rustyshackleford5668 4 роки тому

    So the 1650 super will be around Christmas time?

  • @Novaka1n
    @Novaka1n 4 роки тому

    Is that a dead pixel on the RGB SSD?

  • @hotteman
    @hotteman 4 роки тому

    Any idea when the rx 5600 could release ? I wanted to wait but they announced rx 5500 instead... 😒

  • @InSaiyanShinobi
    @InSaiyanShinobi 4 роки тому

    Does this card have the same nvenc chip as the 2000 series only reason I ask is because I want to use it for a dedicated stream rig nothing else

  • @JD3Gamer
    @JD3Gamer 4 роки тому +130

    What a bloated and confusing lineup

    • @obiwanyutuben
      @obiwanyutuben 4 роки тому

      I like him but he made it much much worse. He always does.

    • @shanez1215
      @shanez1215 4 роки тому +1

      1650, 1650 Super, 1660, 1660 Super, 1660 TI, 2060, 2060 Super, 2070, 2070 Super, 2080, 2080 Super, 2080 TI
      There's also TWO 1650's, one with GDDR5 and one with GDDR6 memory.
      This could be condensed so much, but it's somehow better than their laptop GPU branding.

    • @JD-ot9mc
      @JD-ot9mc 3 роки тому

      @@obiwanyutuben ??

  • @Staas1
    @Staas1 4 роки тому +7

    Steve by next year: "We have 53000 rows of data for graphics cards release in the past 12 months"

  • @FluxNoise
    @FluxNoise 4 роки тому

    Can anyone tell me where the gtx 1080 stands in nvidias list?

  • @logantafoya8348
    @logantafoya8348 3 роки тому +1

    This guy's inflection of his sentences reminds me of Chris MacLean, the sadistic show host in the Total Drama Island cartoon.
    I can't unhear it.

  • @TarisRedwing
    @TarisRedwing 4 роки тому

    So whats the point of these 1600 cards? Are they budget cards?

  • @jonesy66691
    @jonesy66691 4 роки тому +1

    I have no idea where to go from my 980ti.
    Wait for 7nm EUV?

    • @jonaslinter
      @jonaslinter 4 роки тому

      I'm waiting for Nvidia 3000 series

  • @dangerous3.143
    @dangerous3.143 4 роки тому +49

    I think they're just trying to crowd AMD out of the market

    • @martinivanov1319
      @martinivanov1319 4 роки тому +2

      well amd are out in the mid range unless they release rx 5600 that has 1660ti performance or better for lesser price

    • @martinivanov1319
      @martinivanov1319 4 роки тому +1

      @Setzer K id rather buy used 1070ti/1080 than this garbage :D

    • @dycedargselderbrother5353
      @dycedargselderbrother5353 4 роки тому +2

      @Setzer K There is a prevailing theory that most people shop with a mentality of, "I have $X. Which Nvidia card can I get for this?" If that's true, the naming scheme is irrelevant.

    • @dycedargselderbrother5353
      @dycedargselderbrother5353 4 роки тому +1

      @Setzer K I think looking at it from a lineup complexity standpoint, rather than naming scheme, is a better argument. Speaking of Apple, probably no company has a more ambiguous naming scheme. A decade's worth of products share identical names. If you want to know the differences you basically need to decode serial numbers or at least get approximate dates from MacOS' system information.
      There is also the matter of Nvidia's $150-$400 area being the most confusing, which is where most of the money is spent. However, I think people are more likely to defer purchases than jump to a competitor. It'd be kind of hard to convince me otherwise given the giant gap between the RX 500 series and the RX 5700 series that is flush with Nvidia products. Nvidia is basically competing with themselves with all these releases.

    • @ozm0zesjoe466
      @ozm0zesjoe466 4 роки тому +1

      *tinfoil hat intensifies*

  • @dudigi
    @dudigi 4 роки тому +1

    This video would make for a great drinking game. Every time Steve says sixteen or sixty u take a drink.

  • @samghost13
    @samghost13 4 роки тому

    Is this also a i want Raytracing but it runs only with 5fps super card ?

  • @wisdoom9153
    @wisdoom9153 4 роки тому

    Alright, so there will be RTX 1660ti super extreme edition in few months or so, right? With 10Mhz higher clocks and faster memory from this card.

  • @MrPumaralant
    @MrPumaralant 4 роки тому +54

    11th graphics card release in 11 months? Talk about ewaste. What a waste

    • @dimyttt1780
      @dimyttt1780 4 роки тому

      Waste of time for us , big investments for invidia .. comon.. with 100 more bucks you get 5700 xt which is a freaking beast overclocked.. 400 dollars/ euros and you are ready to go

  • @Sovreighn7
    @Sovreighn7 4 роки тому

    So whats next the 2060, 2070, and 2080 Super Ti ?

  • @deltasource56
    @deltasource56 4 роки тому

    rgb on a ssd didnt you have an issue with that before?

  • @jouniosmala9921
    @jouniosmala9921 4 роки тому

    The super variants are mostly about nvidia utilizing the price drop of GDDR6 and bringing that to consumer prices, and following yield improvements to a binning curve of memory frequencies.

  • @steriskyline4470
    @steriskyline4470 4 роки тому +37

    I leave this video really wanting to grow my hair out.
    Product placement? I think so sir.

  • @tehgusbus2716
    @tehgusbus2716 4 роки тому

    Do you think they'll bring it down even more on black Friday

  • @keptinkaos6384
    @keptinkaos6384 4 роки тому +1

    have not seen this kind of marketing since the US automakers of the fifties all of them had multiple brands but the end product was much the same with minor variations

  • @houseismorethanjustm
    @houseismorethanjustm 4 роки тому

    So after this long video I can't choose : Is it better to buy 1660 for 250$ in my country or spend 40-50$ more for the 1660 super and 1660ti is like 300-310$ ? I don't see a huge fps difference between them . With 40-50$ I can buy myself 1 more 8GB 3000mhz Ram or 1 TB HDD . Coming from a 1050ti .

  • @TallynTech
    @TallynTech 4 роки тому

    Why is the Vega 64 missing from all or most of these charts?

  • @hkiller8885
    @hkiller8885 4 роки тому +5

    This has been the one of hardest reviews to fallow and understand...all i hear constantly is 16 and 60...sometimes super sometimes Ti...

  • @santinojoshuatorre1695
    @santinojoshuatorre1695 4 роки тому

    oh my god, all the "60's" on this gave me a headache (not your fault, of course, excellent coverage as always). i can only imagine how head splitting it must've been to actually say them

  • @sergeleon1163
    @sergeleon1163 4 роки тому +1

    I think that cards in this performance range will have most competition from the 2nd hand market, in a value option in RX 580 or a Vega card in higher performance for still a lower price

  • @patricknolan1625
    @patricknolan1625 4 роки тому

    I love choice, but wow...SO many cards. I really feel that they could offer the same amount of performance value, but streamline their lineup. For now though, I think I'll hold onto my EVGA GTX 1070 SC2 for a while longer. It still does everything I need it to do, relatively well.

  • @AmazingChinaToday
    @AmazingChinaToday Рік тому

    The vendor websites don't help shoppers at all. I'm a productivity user, want solid 4K Windows and 4K movie playback performance, multiple monitor support, and some occasional light gaming, and there is basically no way to drill down to the card that would suit my needs on any of the vendor websites (EVGA, Gigabyte, Nvidia, etc), or really any website out there, including PC Magazine, which used to run productivity tests and 2D performance tests, but apparently no more. So I went with this card, and am hoping for the best!

  • @TheKachowMan
    @TheKachowMan 4 роки тому

    I'm excited for a 2070S. Upgrading from the old 1060 3GB. This lower end lineup is very odd though.

  • @MrAustanian
    @MrAustanian 4 роки тому

    With reference 5700s dropping down to $270 do we go that route instead?

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint 4 роки тому

      Yes, the cooler sucks. So replace it later with a after market cooling solution. Ie a aio adapter, the Morpheus 2 a next g12 aio bracket. Etc etc

  • @Stuen4y
    @Stuen4y 4 роки тому +1

    Another great review of a GPU. Keep up the good work, Steve! I would love to see an average relative performance percentages graph over the test suite. I love the fact that most of the major game engines are covered giving a very broad view; however, the results very rarely vary from the average percentage difference between two GPUs. It can be a simple graph that does only reference boards (if there are any) without OC but is a brilliant one-glance-to-decide-which-GPU-to-buy resource. I can understand that there might be statistical implications and you have some of (if not) the best methods in the industry for determining what the numbers you collect mean but even with a grain of salt and a disclaimer at the bottom it would still be useful. You are usually mentioning a percentage value with relation to one or more GPUs in the conclusion so it will only be a small change. Moreover, you can easily distinguish the GPUs within bands of playable resolutions (again with asterisks and some salt) 1080p, 1440p, 4K based on the simplified relative performance by placing some FPS thresholds and making sure a card is above them on ALL games. I love the in-depth coverage but I am sure everyone will benefit from a pictorial summary of the performance from the data you already have. I will understand if you completely discard this comment as you might not want to associate yourself with statistically not significant or too generalistic numbers.
    Thank you and I hope you do take this into account at some point.
    Stoyan

  • @BlueFlareGaming
    @BlueFlareGaming 4 роки тому

    Just a suggestion, add different bracket types for the different video cards to better distinguish at a glance the different types. Examples: [Brand](Card Name)Stock/OC; [EVGA](GTX 1660 Super) Stock / OC+#/#; [AMD](RX 5700) Stock / OC+#/#;

  • @lordsqueak
    @lordsqueak 4 роки тому

    Sorry but the sponsorship Delta MAX, what I'm mostly interested in watching that is, Can I use that as a small extra monitor to display custom stuff on, and how does it perform.

  • @ryanoneill91
    @ryanoneill91 4 роки тому +27

    "it's not super exciting" hahhha

  • @tokage933
    @tokage933 4 роки тому

    thermal tests?

  • @five5105
    @five5105 4 роки тому

    On the bright side, all of the product naming confusion can be used to confuse Best Buy employees into price matching the wrong variant at a lower price.

  • @maddhatter0
    @maddhatter0 4 роки тому

    On one of the points that was made in this video, I've never seen charts or review where in rx580 could match or even come close to the clocks that I get on my RX 590, furthermore I don't have an RX 580 but from the charts that I've seen on many different views, including this very channels reviews, you can get 5 to 10 to 15 frames more on almost any 590 than you can from almost any 580. I don't know, I'm really not sure if an RX 580 overclocked is exactly the same thing as a 590. Of course I did get my 594 $230 back in February. It was a great deal I think.

  • @garagatza
    @garagatza 4 роки тому

    Definitely confusing to keep up where you were at with presenting the differences between the 16XXs. Could not follow anything of that would probably help having them added in a table for comparison.
    PS: Still happy with my RX580

  • @baciatzi8836
    @baciatzi8836 4 роки тому

    I got a 2060 Super! Didn't pay any attention to the word super on it. Thought that was part of Zotac's naming.

  • @neon_necromunda
    @neon_necromunda 4 роки тому

    @gamersnexus why hasn't vulcan taken over from dx 11/12 considering in most use cases it yields better performance?

    • @tclemens96
      @tclemens96 4 роки тому

      If I remember correctly it's more work for devs and require game engine updates.

    • @neon_necromunda
      @neon_necromunda 4 роки тому

      @@tclemens96 thanks but that's a given I was hoping to get a more political answer from GN as what you have said was simply the same thing from each new iteration of dx when people like linus also can't understand why it's not implemented in most if not all new games then it has to be a more complicated answer than "it's just more work" lol thanks for your answer though a lot of people mite not know that.

  • @Wizardmom
    @Wizardmom 4 роки тому +3

    The best part of this video is the part that had a 1060 on it, I've always wondered why you -or seemingly anyone else, even the Anandtech GPU charts don't easily let you directly compare a old to new card these days- don't compare the modern cards against the old cards more often. I don't really care about how much better a new card is over another new card since I can't easily see how much better either is compared to the current. By seeing that 1060 on there compared to the new cards I can easily see at a glance how much better the new cards are over my current one and am easily able to price-to-performance-increase over my current card rather than just a flat price-to-performance of all of the new cards. Yeah, I might pick out the best bang for the dollar one on a chart comparing all the new cards to the other new cards, but it might not be a large enough of a upgrade to have bothered.

  • @Mart-E12
    @Mart-E12 4 роки тому

    I was wondering which is faster in Blender Cycles since the super has less cuda cores but faster memory, I think the ti should still be faster because of the cuda cores though

  • @mistamon99
    @mistamon99 4 роки тому

    Blower style 5700s are going for roughly 300 dollars on sale or openbox and i cant see the value in the 1660ti when the 5700 is an option for the same price as a high end 1660ti AIB model

  • @budgetking2591
    @budgetking2591 4 роки тому +5

    rx470 was so good in 2016, looking back, inn 2019 its still one of the best bang for your buck, thats nuts.

    • @georgemorley1029
      @georgemorley1029 4 роки тому +1

      Jeffrey Bozko I had that card, great little trooper for 1080p

    • @solarstrike33
      @solarstrike33 4 роки тому +1

      Bless AMD FIneWine.

    • @budgetking2591
      @budgetking2591 4 роки тому

      @@Alexandra-ek7kh i agree

    • @InimicusSolitus
      @InimicusSolitus 4 роки тому

      Just got a used Rx470 for $79 shipped.

    • @budgetking2591
      @budgetking2591 4 роки тому

      @@InimicusSolitus nice deal, its an amazing gpu and also energy efficient, its the most energy efficient polaris out there.

  • @WhiteManReviews
    @WhiteManReviews 4 роки тому +1

    Glad I bought a 1080ti sc2 dirt cheap when the rtx series was first announced its still so much better then most of these new cards and for the price I paid an absolute steal

  • @XIIchiron78
    @XIIchiron78 4 роки тому

    Big Navi when? Should I wait for the 5900XT, wait for Ampere, or just grab whatever 2070 Super is cheapest on black Friday?

  • @gatraidris
    @gatraidris 4 роки тому

    can you count how many 6 did he say ?