Just Figured out how the Inhibitor Chips work... its PURE EVIL

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  • The Clone Trooper was supposed to be a genetically perfect soldier, with the perfect amount of aggression, loyalty and courage. But does that mean the Clone Trooper is immune to the oldest war related illness PTSD?
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  • @Squiddy-go1du
    @Squiddy-go1du Місяць тому +454

    There was a really good example of a clone having PTSD in rebels. It happens when the Rebels go to Agamar and Rex lays eyes on a super tactical droid. He calls out for Cody and that whole episode, Rex was grumpy. It’s like Kanan said “battles leave scars, some you can’t see”

    • @AKUNJIG
      @AKUNJIG Місяць тому +54

      Rex talking about not wanting to bury anymore Brothers in The Bad Batch cuts deep.

    • @Squiddy-go1du
      @Squiddy-go1du Місяць тому +7

      @@AKUNJIG 😢😢😢

    • @thunderfreeze1544
      @thunderfreeze1544 Місяць тому +7

      He did it bc he’s gonna kill Cody in bad batch

    • @gustvandenbroeck1162
      @gustvandenbroeck1162 Місяць тому

      geez spoiler alert@@thunderfreeze1544

    • @gailasprey7787
      @gailasprey7787 Місяць тому +3

      @@thunderfreeze1544what? How do you know that?

  • @42meep13
    @42meep13 Місяць тому +294

    Another good example of past humans trying to explain PTSD is an ancient record from ancient Mesopotamia where a soldier suffering from PTSD was diagnosed as being attacked by the ghosts of the enemies he'd killed.
    Which is both a surprisingly accurate way to think about it, and an example from the past where the sufferer wasn't blamed as somehow weak for suffering from the condition.

    • @CarnytheM-mv5uo
      @CarnytheM-mv5uo 29 днів тому +31

      ‘Being attacked by the ghosts of your enemies you slew in battle’.
      No, that is not inaccurate at all.
      If anything, it is the Head of the Nail you hit.

  • @TheDarkRK9
    @TheDarkRK9 Місяць тому +554

    I like how you mentioned that PTSD isn’t only in military, I’m actually unable to join because I suffer from it because of abuse as a child

    • @yoschiannik8438
      @yoschiannik8438 Місяць тому +59

      Trauma is evreywhere, but somehow only vets get a bit of pitty for it. And not much more than just the bit of pitty to be honest.

    • @dozyproductionss
      @dozyproductionss Місяць тому +28

      I get it. I guess the problem is we all understand trauma from battlefield or many under estimate it. While with civilians "trauma" is getting more and more used and over used.

    • @nomadgrappler9410
      @nomadgrappler9410 Місяць тому +14

      Your literally not missing anything.

    • @jeremiahmorris1852
      @jeremiahmorris1852 Місяць тому +25

      I have PTSD. Several traumatic events stacked on top of each other made it worse honestly. So watching Crosshair trying to overcome his is...inspiring

    • @MrCdog85
      @MrCdog85 Місяць тому +12

      Don't know why you'd want to serve in the first place these days

  • @jiffypoo5029
    @jiffypoo5029 Місяць тому +130

    It seemed like both Wolf and Kanan had PTSD flashbacks when they saw each other. They both immediately snapped back to Order 66.

    • @RayvenTheNight
      @RayvenTheNight Місяць тому +21

      "Jedi... they've come from revenge " * starts shooting...
      Yeah mate that's dreaded fear becoming reality

  • @Tallacus
    @Tallacus Місяць тому +203

    The Clones were the most human of the entire franchise. They earned our respect.

    • @CarnytheM-mv5uo
      @CarnytheM-mv5uo 29 днів тому +6

      They have, and for those who have passed on?
      Those Brothers have Earned, their Rest.
      Vode an…

    • @mattscott8961
      @mattscott8961 25 днів тому +1

      Cannon fodder humanity. Tragic, but creates an esprit d corps like nothing else.

    • @mattscott8961
      @mattscott8961 25 днів тому +1

      Lest we forget.

  • @biffyqueen
    @biffyqueen Місяць тому +79

    Echo has a straight up PTSD flashback in the first episode of The Bad Batch

    • @Shinyspddmn
      @Shinyspddmn 26 днів тому +10

      Everything he experienced is still fresh for him then, pretty much picks up where Echo's rescue leaves off

  • @wwobbles
    @wwobbles Місяць тому +106

    "Many have served in the military"
    That line hit me hard since I've been rewatching SWTCW while waiting to exit the military.

    • @MrDK0010
      @MrDK0010 Місяць тому +2

      I'm waiting to get in, cleared for active duty.

    • @wwobbles
      @wwobbles Місяць тому +3

      @@MrDK0010 hope you get what you want out of it.

    • @MrDK0010
      @MrDK0010 25 днів тому +1

      @@wwobbles Thank you

  • @Karlos1234ify
    @Karlos1234ify Місяць тому +199

    Each of the clones hold a special place in our hearts.
    Except Fox, especially Fox

    • @jakecannanite4558
      @jakecannanite4558 Місяць тому +56

      The clones seemed to take on personality traits from thier generals, 501st was more daring and wreckless thanks to anakin, 212th was thoughtful and strategic under Obi-wan, the corusant guard had Palpatine...

    • @yumallah
      @yumallah Місяць тому +34

      Kinda sad how he died though. Choked by Vader in an instant because he forgot to tell his troops that this one lightsaber wielding scary guy in armor was not, in fact, a Jedi, and on the Empire's side.

    • @brianmoyachiuz905
      @brianmoyachiuz905 Місяць тому +7

      I love my Clone brethren, but yeah, we don't like him, not even Vader

    • @thewonderfullymadejaraid7015
      @thewonderfullymadejaraid7015 Місяць тому +20

      @@yumallah To Vader, it was personal. Fox was the man who killed one of Vader's closest clone friends, Fives.

    • @Wyomingchief
      @Wyomingchief Місяць тому +3

      Some people actually like Fox

  • @kj07video
    @kj07video Місяць тому +218

    Fun Fact: Before the prequel trilogy, when there was no information about the clone wars people use to think that Obi-Wan was a clone & that his name was a play on his “designation” OB-1 (OB standing for something like original body). Even though it’s untrue it’s a cool example of the fans showing interest in the wider lore & developing head cannon.

    • @jeremiahmorris1852
      @jeremiahmorris1852 Місяць тому +19

      That's the first time I've heard that Obi-Wan theory and I've been a Star Wars fan since I was 6. So 1989

    • @cloudmaster182
      @cloudmaster182 Місяць тому +11

      ​@@jeremiahmorris1852 I've heard it a lot, but only on the internet from people who say they heard it back then, but they're probably mostly 20 year olds

    • @ninjalectualx
      @ninjalectualx Місяць тому +8

      It's wild that the clone wars are now the most-explored era of all SW history at this point

    • @Wyomingchief
      @Wyomingchief Місяць тому +2

      ​@@cloudmaster182yeah I've heard of it, but like you said only recently on the internet. I literally grew up with Star Wars seen the first one at age 11 and nobody ever thought Obi-Wan was a clone😂😂

    • @BugRib
      @BugRib Місяць тому +12

      @Wyomingchief - I remember hearing some fellow nerds talking about the OB-1 theory at a comic convention in the mid 90s. And this was when the interwebs was in its infancy, and "social media" wasn't a thing at all yet.
      They also thought that the Mandalorians would play a huge role in the Prequels, which kind of turned out to be true...from a certain point of view.

  • @Senovitj
    @Senovitj Місяць тому +85

    The fact that the Coruscant stationed clone troopers react too, hints to the dreams being part of them regardless of the clone being at the frontlines. Being stationed on Coruscant should keep the exposure to war at a minimum.

    • @pokaface564
      @pokaface564 Місяць тому +6

      I thought “the dreams” was about killing the Jedi in order 66?

    • @Dreamfox-df6bg
      @Dreamfox-df6bg Місяць тому +6

      @@pokaface564That would be a possibility, if not for the other orders implanted in the chip. Why would Order 66 stand out?

    • @caninelupus8369
      @caninelupus8369 29 днів тому +6

      It's not as though Coruscant was entirely peaceful, especially on the lower levels. With that many people, conflict is inevitable. I wouldn't be surprised if the Coruscant Guard dealt with a gang war or something similar at one point.

    • @Senovitj
      @Senovitj 29 днів тому +2

      @@caninelupus8369 The police used to hunt Ahsoka, when she was hiding down there, weren't clones. Not that the Coruscant guard couldn't be involved with dealing with gangs, as you suggest.

    • @AgentDearestZ
      @AgentDearestZ 24 дні тому

      "Just like the simulations."

  • @misterbitey2107
    @misterbitey2107 Місяць тому +38

    Because of where I'm at right now, I realize something important:
    The clones basically experienced Helldivers vs automatons for real.

  • @Khornecussion
    @Khornecussion Місяць тому +58

    I have PTSD from watching my body just... wither from Leukemia and coming within according to doctors " about ten to fifteen minutes of death if the doctors didn't shoot me full of a hero's dose of chemo. "
    And I'll have horrible nightmares of waking up in the hospital bed barely able to move again, or being diagnosed with a relapse of Leukemia and knowing I can't win a second round against it.

    • @aceblazebunny2751
      @aceblazebunny2751 Місяць тому +5

      @Khornecussion I know this was 6 days ago but I have had Leukemia twice and I also have those problems the best thing that I have found to work and calm me down is knowing that there is a new therapy that is extremely effective and isn’t chemo called T-Cell therapy and I took part of the trials and It works amazing so try I know it’s hard but try to not over stress about it cause you can’t control it and it gets better with time I promise you. Stay strong cause I know you are and good luck out there

  • @isaackim7675
    @isaackim7675 Місяць тому +94

    Didn’t Rex suffered PTSD when he discovered Kalani and his droid forces were still active on Agamar in Rebels?

    • @buffalowt
      @buffalowt Місяць тому +33

      He did.
      And wolf when he met kanan and ezra

    • @jiffypoo5029
      @jiffypoo5029 Місяць тому +22

      @@buffalowtBoth Kanan and Wolf immediately snapped back to Order 66.

    • @ozf14
      @ozf14 19 днів тому +3

      Rex thought Cody was next to him, but i can't remember exactly what happened in that episode since it's been a while since i watched Rebels, but i can say that it was either Ezra or Kanan next to Rex, and not Cody. So yes, Rex definitely does have PTSD

  • @IIIC3YLOCO
    @IIIC3YLOCO Місяць тому +23

    Courage can’t exist without fear. To much fear can cause trauma. To much trauma leads to PTSD.
    I suffer from CPTSD

  • @Uilleand
    @Uilleand Місяць тому +23

    When Tup's chip activates, the boys in the 501st discuss whether it might be some kind of combat fatigue and Kix says something along the lines of "You know we were bred to be resistant to that kind of thing." ...but I guess resistant does not equal immune, and the amount and intensity of the horrific experiences piled on the clones is just too much to overcome.

  • @Barnie-pi7mk
    @Barnie-pi7mk Місяць тому +46

    I still have PTSD from when a close friend of mine died to basically even talking about it or anything stressful gives me flashbacks

    • @Wyomingchief
      @Wyomingchief Місяць тому

      👍

    • @jameshersom2536
      @jameshersom2536 21 день тому

      I’ve only had a couple flashbacks but it’s only when inebriated.

  • @advasity339
    @advasity339 Місяць тому +53

    the troopers are very human, no surprise with PTSD affecting them

  • @Toms_Bright_Ideas
    @Toms_Bright_Ideas Місяць тому +36

    I'm a US Army Veteran. I served during peace time. I had a period of harassment when I served that when I retell it to someone who will listen I'll "re-live" it and my heart beats out of my chest. I made a service connected claim on it and since I couldn't sit down and write it out or tell it the VA denied my claim. Though weeks before I had to endure the examination I had a huge panic attack and had to go on some heart medication for most of a year. I'm also in a Veteran Support Group that meets every week. Most of the Vets in it are Vietnam Era and man those guys went thru Hell then when they returned they went through some more Hell on the home front. There is a guy in it that I believe was a Navy SEAL and he complains of suffering from PTSD for the last 30 yrs. He's also highly critical of the VA which seems to have a policy of drugging up people who suffer from mental trauma. I think a lot of it is spiritual in nature because when the drugs wear off there's this person who seems possessed who can't sit still or is bent on a self destructive course of action.
    I've suggested to the people in the Mental Health Department they should have intramural sports there as we were trained as units and we should heal in units too.
    Btw the series of books that I thought come close to the feeling of being in a military unit was the Republic Commando books by Karen Traviss. I'm also disappointed there wasn't more than one Republic Commando video game. Doesn't Disney just destroy everything they touch? Thanks for the video.

    • @AstroNinja1
      @AstroNinja1 25 днів тому +3

      there was in fact a planned sequal in the works called Imperial Commando but yeah it got canned when the disney buyout happened

  • @johnouimette1686
    @johnouimette1686 Місяць тому +26

    This has been one of the clearest PTSD explanations, for civilians, I have seen on the web

  • @nicholashodges201
    @nicholashodges201 Місяць тому +30

    While conflated with PTSD during the first World War, during the second it was discovered that "Shell Shock" was its own distinct issue with it's own injuries and symptoms. The name stuck because its very apt. Shell Shock is a neurological injury caused by repeated exposure to sudden increases in overpressure. Individual physiology can greatly effect susceptibility. The symptoms are basically the same as for TBI plus issues with hearing, tinnitus and balance due to unner ear damage, but unlike TBI, can eventually go away if the patient is removed from any place they would be exposed to over pressure quickly enough.
    Its mostly gone away in the modern war because of the weapons and tactics we use no longer rely on long term saturation shelling/bombing, the typical cause of Shell Shock.

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher Місяць тому

      It'd be interesting to see a study on the veterans of the War for Ukraine, considering the Russian reliance on artillery.

    • @troymccarty1585
      @troymccarty1585 Місяць тому +3

      3M has agreed to pay $6 billion to resolve roughly 300,000 lawsuits alleging that the manufacturing company supplied faulty combat earplugs to the military that resulted in significant injuries, such as hearing loss.

    • @Dreamfox-df6bg
      @Dreamfox-df6bg Місяць тому +1

      Wouldn't that make 'Shell Shock' a subset of PTSD?
      While there are differences, the combat in the trenches was brutal, so I would think that differentiating between the cases of Shell Shock and PTSD would be difficult.
      Easier today with the advances in medical technology which can find the neural injury as well as the advances in psychology. I imagine you would have a lot of mixed cases, where you had to treat both conditions together. As well as isolated cases where you could assign only one of both treatments.

    • @nicholashodges201
      @nicholashodges201 Місяць тому +1

      @@Dreamfox-df6bg no PTSD is completely psychological, Shell Shock is a physical injury and more closely related to TBI.
      It is caused by being exposed to sudden, repeated, short lived increases in air pressure over a prolonged period.
      The sudden increase and release of pressure disrupts neural function.
      It's like hitting your head in a serious car accident.
      Ptsd is a completely psychological ailment resulting from prolonged exposure to physical danger, or the sincere belief thereof. Evidence from WW1-Afghanistan also indicates that there is a social/cultural component as well in that if the patients are treated like moral pariahs or ignored like Viet Vets or Korean Vets, respectively rates of PTSD increase significantly and treatment is very difficult, while if they're treated like guys who "did what was needed" or heros like for the World War vets rates drop and treatment success rates skyrocket.
      PTSD at this point appears to be a conflagration of multiple battle and social stress disorders with multiple causes and that seem to vary from individual to individual. The only real consistency is it being reaction to mental trauma. Even the symptoms are somewhat inconsistent once you get away from the MSM depiction. It makes some people into involuntary pacifists, unable to defend themselves, and then there's the patients it essentially turns into the Punisher, who typically go undiagnosed due to non stereotypical symptoms.

    • @nicholashodges201
      @nicholashodges201 Місяць тому

      @@Dreamfox-df6bg also treatment is completely different. For SS just get them away from the pressure area quickly enough and they'll be fine. No therapy, maybe a mild sedative to knock them out while symptoms abate. If they've been exposed too long the neural damage will be permanent and show symptoms similar to Parkinson's.
      PTSD *always* requires months to years of rehab as you're dealing with a "wiring issue" that requires shifting the patient's perspective away for hyper fixation on their trauma and its prevention. You don't really want to give drugs to these folks if possible. They generally don't react great, especially with SSRI class antidepressants. They aren't depressed they're *scared* and SSRIs are GREAT at pushing fear into rage & sadness into hopelessness when misprescribed.
      Which leads to mass casualty events

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 Місяць тому +9

    In addition to combat PTSD, I bet a fair share of clones have TBIs (traumatic brain injuries) from the war. I feel like Crosshair might have developed a TBI from that Venator engineer in season 1 ripping his head open.

  • @RayvenTheNight
    @RayvenTheNight Місяць тому +16

    "The local crackhead has turned against you" 😂😂😂 what the actual hell dude

    • @dirtydeesenpai
      @dirtydeesenpai Місяць тому +5

      I hope Alan is not speaking from experience 😅😂

    • @KyloStimpy
      @KyloStimpy Місяць тому +3

      does this imply that the local crackhead used to be pretty chill?

    • @skepticofdoom7486
      @skepticofdoom7486 10 днів тому

      Hmm. the fact that this didn't even come across as weird to me kinda makes me think. Hard to remember this isn't normal to a lot of folks. :)

  • @jackgubasta8800
    @jackgubasta8800 Місяць тому +9

    I served in Syria and have PTSD. Never really thought about Clones getting it till we see the homeless clone in Kenobi. Great video

  • @willadeefriesland5107
    @willadeefriesland5107 Місяць тому +3

    When Attack of the Clones first came out, people couldn't figure out why I thought the 'mustering' scene... all the clone scenes in the whole movie for that matter, were sad. NOW, more people get it...

  • @SPQRKlio
    @SPQRKlio Місяць тому +19

    Ow, saw the title and my copyeditor brain bounced hard off the difference between “Clones can’t get PTSD right” and “Clones can’t get PTSD, right?” But it made me click, so-ok, ok, I’ll sit back down and be quiet and watch the vid.

    • @MBSill
      @MBSill Місяць тому +3

      Same trouble. Spelling, punctuation, misused words, it all screams at me whenever I read. Crazy!

  • @lookingoverstrangeterrainl3667
    @lookingoverstrangeterrainl3667 Місяць тому +7

    The Clone Wars especially The Bad Batch resonate with mine own experiences in the Army. I am a retired Green Beret and avid fan of everything Star Wars, but when I started down the path of The Clone Wars, I get a bit emotional. More when you see the random Clones we don’t get to meet die off. I feel at times feel the loss of those die hit the hardest.
    Seeing the random Ukrainian and Russian soldiers isn’t something I find enjoyable. Understanding warfare is a thing, I now understand life being more complicated especially when there is conflict with opposing views.
    As a Green Beret, our role was often like that of the Jedi. Serving many roles, military ambassadors, advisors, trainers, and leaders who fought alongside Host Nation troops. We provide additional support that the Host Nation often lacked as well as stand down with local leaders discussing ways to bring about peace in the regions we served.
    Anyway, not to make this about me, this series definitely hit upon key points of my career and glad to see the silent issues addressed in the form of entertainment.

  • @aviatorengineer3491
    @aviatorengineer3491 Місяць тому +3

    I never really noticed that about the scene when Tup was dying. The non-Clones in the room all looked to be confused or trying to figure out what he meant. Meanwhile the Clones seemed to be passing glances at each other in understanding. Even if they personally aren't having that recurring nightmare every Clone must know somebody who is.

  • @TheChaizeRiley
    @TheChaizeRiley Місяць тому +3

    A clone wars show about any of the other hundreds of clone units and other battles is all I want. We did not get to see enough clone wars in The Clone Wars, nor did we see half the vehicle and units from episode 3

  • @mkhud50n
    @mkhud50n Місяць тому +7

    The chip heightens stored trauma? Yo that’s dark. You should write for Star Wars.

  • @darthroden
    @darthroden 25 днів тому +4

    There's another disturbing thing about the Clones themselves. Remember that they are the result of accelerated ageing, but in spite of how they look, there is (at best) a 10 to 13 year old boy inside the body going through all of this. Quite literally an army of adult-looking children.

  • @ColonelStan
    @ColonelStan Місяць тому +14

    Felucia was PTSD.
    "It's been said that the 501st got the best of the war. We also got the worst. On Felucia, the Seps dug their metal heels into the muck of that alien hellhole and dared the Republic to come in after them. So we did, only to be met with month after month of flesh-eating diseases, shrieking nocturnal predators, and other sights that haunt me to this day. Cut off, and for all we knew abandoned by our superiors, our only hope was Aayla Secura, our Jedi commander. Without her iron will, none of us would have come out of that mess with our sanity or our lives. When her death came, I hope it was quick. She earned that much."

  • @tonyjackson4078
    @tonyjackson4078 Місяць тому +3

    Its crazy to think in a few years time you're told "You are the most advanced army ever created, literally. You were MADE to be the best, and you are." To "You have become problematic and too expensive. You are no longer needed, but will be used if you play by our rules, which have become incredibly self serving." PTSD was inevitable with all the sacrifices they made in the name of the Republic willingly and bravely, only to be considered toys that aren't wanted anymore.

  • @gryphonosiris2577
    @gryphonosiris2577 26 днів тому +2

    In WWI there was a British doctor who tried to treat PTSD for soldiers in the trenches. The problem was that 30% or more soldiers were starting to suffer from it, and rather than admit that there was a problem with what was happening on the front, they started to accuse the soldiers of cowardice and it became institutionalize procedure to not 'treat' it. Instead they used anesthetics like ether or chloroform, or even electroshock treatment.
    Barbaric.

  • @BugKimbo
    @BugKimbo Місяць тому +14

    Was having a horrible day and then I got the Generation Tech notif. God sent🙏

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 Місяць тому +6

    I wonder how many clones had to live on coruscant after their retirement, considering how much the public has been turned against them.
    Coruscant would probably be the worst place or one of the worst places for clone troopers to be, especially in the lower levels of the planet.Knowing that palpatine made them do many terrible things.

  • @Nightcall00
    @Nightcall00 Місяць тому +5

    Being prior military these videos hit so hard

  • @leonielson7138
    @leonielson7138 25 днів тому +2

    I heard of one soldier describe his PTSD nightmares as being in Iraq, under fire or running from something. He'd watched a werewolf movie and had a dream of being chased through Baghdad by a werewolf. He knew it was a nightmare, that it didn't happen, but he couldn't stop running until he woke up.

  • @DigitalNeb
    @DigitalNeb Місяць тому +4

    As a non-military guy with PTSD from childhood, I can tell that it changes your life whether you like it or not. Best to face up to it and learn how to live again.

  • @GhostRydr1172
    @GhostRydr1172 Місяць тому +2

    Got into a couple of car crashes in less than one year. Yeah, I believe it can cause PTSD, as car crashes are now an all too often recurring nightmare and constant fear each time I'm on my M-F commute.😢

  • @ladypiperfaye
    @ladypiperfaye Місяць тому +3

    Realizing too late that you were actually on the wrong side and you never had a choice in the matter.

  • @BugRib
    @BugRib Місяць тому +2

    I don't think I technically have PTSD, but childhood (and adult) trauma has definitely f**ked up my brain in the form of chronic anxiety, and trust and self esteem issues Sometimes I think chronic anxiety is the most hellish experience in existence. Would rather experience an hour of being-kicked-in-the-balls-pain everyday, TBH.
    Watching this channel is a nice break from it all. Thanks Generation Tech guy! 🙏

  • @StraightOtohGunga
    @StraightOtohGunga Місяць тому +5

    I love how genuinely education this channel can be. Well done!

  • @big-bonkin-head1034
    @big-bonkin-head1034 Місяць тому +19

    Finn could’ve been a cool character but they wasted him 😩

    • @dallaswinston8260
      @dallaswinston8260 Місяць тому +3

      Black guys in star wars are Always cool

    • @chrislaurent1137
      @chrislaurent1137 Місяць тому +9

      I know, the concept was right there. A former stormtrooper turned Jedi would make a great trilogy

    • @jonathan4158
      @jonathan4158 Місяць тому +9

      They should've made him the main character. A former Stormtrooper and have him made a vow of not killing his fellow Stormtroopers since like him, they all were strip away from their families as infants. And try to get them to see that they're not just mindless droids they were made to be.

    • @MBSill
      @MBSill Місяць тому +4

      I absolutely agree. There was SO MUCH potential there.

  • @thorpeaaron1110
    @thorpeaaron1110 Місяць тому +18

    Of course surviving horrific battles like that would give them PSTD.

  • @RexWort
    @RexWort Місяць тому +3

    This is why I love the Clone War
    It's more down to earth for both kids and adults could enjoy
    Besides mandaloria, the other series are not interesting
    They're more like Saturday am shows 😐

  • @MinhVu-yz5rr
    @MinhVu-yz5rr Місяць тому +13

    Imagine a Clone Wars miniseries written by Lucas, Filoni, n Gilroy, directed by Spielberg, and produced by Tom Hanks like Band of Brothers but in space

  • @rub-al-khali4265
    @rub-al-khali4265 Місяць тому +2

    As a veteran, I really like/ agree with what you said about it. we're not just changing our bodies but changing our minds/brains. I appreciate your viewpoint.🙏

  • @nathanjohnson3668
    @nathanjohnson3668 26 днів тому +2

    The clone wars literally came out right after I PCS’d out of the military due to injuries suffered downrange. Being a Star Wars fan I watched. It cause it was Star Wars content but holy crap did the clone story arcs cement my love for the clones. It’s such a great medium to introduce complex issues surrounding war, soldiers, gov’t, politics, and sacrifice. The very means of what it is to be a soldier. So many arcs of that series resonate with me that it is still my heads down favorite piece of Star Wars and tv in general. I am loving the direction they have been taken it too with the batch, tales of the xxxx, and hopefully a rex show. Live to fight another day boys, life to fight another day….

  • @raccolt4217
    @raccolt4217 Місяць тому +2

    I think this might be one of the best videos explaining how the clones inhibitor chips work and why the clones turned on the Jedi so quickly.

  • @user-mw6lu5ow5p
    @user-mw6lu5ow5p 23 дні тому +1

    I do like how you draw parallels between the fictional stories and real life. Without getting emotional, all I'll say is that I really appreciate that.

  • @kfeltenberger
    @kfeltenberger Місяць тому +1

    David Drake wrote a fantastic book about future commandos dealing with PTSD and how they and he government dealt with it. The book was called “Red Liners”.

  • @nathanieljackson5554
    @nathanieljackson5554 Місяць тому +2

    In most science fiction stories clones are seen as less than the original in spite of being a copy. And that's displayed often from the opening battle of the war.
    So many lives lost in what ended up being a proxy war between the Jedi and the Sith.

  • @Dreamfox-df6bg
    @Dreamfox-df6bg Місяць тому +2

    War, war never changes.

  • @MC-zr7hl
    @MC-zr7hl 12 днів тому +1

    Dude youre my favorite Star Wars channel you really put a lot of thought behind these and talk about a lot of stuff i never even considered.

  • @JDredwind
    @JDredwind Місяць тому +4

    This was a very sad but very well made video! Great job Alan! Keep up the good work!

  • @DMSProduktions
    @DMSProduktions Місяць тому +3

    Well they ARE still human! Crosshair has it for sure!

  • @SargeantInvictus
    @SargeantInvictus 22 дні тому +1

    Also the fact that when wrecker said that while he was trying to kill Omega, he was trapped inside his mind trying to stop himself. creepy stuff

  • @angrymonkey78
    @angrymonkey78 28 днів тому +1

    As someone with PTSD, it is extremely hard to readjust to normal life and people because you never know who to trust.

  • @jdp3578
    @jdp3578 Місяць тому +2

    I dont know if the chip necessarily put the clones into a state rather than just plain overrode their motor functions altogether. Rex was visibly struggling, even was able to call off his men saying he would handle ashoka, before physically shaking from trying to fight off whatever was happening. It was like when it came to the jedi, they were hijacked. But with rebels, and bad batch, its shown that the clones can turn against the empire, which you would think the chips would render that impossible.

  • @gustavosuarez3096
    @gustavosuarez3096 Місяць тому

    Great video. I am a military veteran myself and I relate with all of the key points you mentioned when discussing PTSD.

  • @debbralehrman5957
    @debbralehrman5957 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks Alan for this topic. I glad you also
    included non-vets who also suffer. Thankfully because they were looking at
    Vets and their PTSD attention started to
    be focus on non veg also. Good video🌹

  • @weeklyfascination
    @weeklyfascination Місяць тому

    Always enjoy your down to earth delivery.

  • @Phi.Melodesserine
    @Phi.Melodesserine 22 дні тому +1

    The tragedy of the clones had me in tears. Thank you for this video.

  • @et548han_
    @et548han_ Місяць тому +3

    great video per usual

  • @griffinthebarbarian7954
    @griffinthebarbarian7954 Місяць тому

    Thanks again for making these videos man

  • @user-oy1jw2wg6h
    @user-oy1jw2wg6h 3 дні тому

    I really hope there are more Clone stories. Honestly, the Clones are some of the best characters in all of cinema.

  • @bobwalsh3751
    @bobwalsh3751 Місяць тому +1

    As a C-PTSD sufferer...thank you. 😢

  • @elizabrooke1816
    @elizabrooke1816 Місяць тому +2

    Great video! Loved your point about the inhibitor chips.
    Also, there's no need for an apostrophe in the word "Troopers" in the title. 😊

  • @Thejuicemerchant
    @Thejuicemerchant Місяць тому +3

    I love your channel your so underrated

  • @philliplopez1501
    @philliplopez1501 22 дні тому

    Facing the horrors of war was easy. We did it together. But, failure to save your buddies...It burns into your soul. You lose your fear, become hyper focused on fighting, You push harder....
    Folks back home see our behavior and are scared. And it only begins to make sense once we walk away and try to stop.
    Working through it all. It takes years.
    Best of luck.
    Phil

  • @krispollard7031
    @krispollard7031 19 днів тому

    Thanks Allen. Thoughtful as always.

  • @dr3coworld191
    @dr3coworld191 Місяць тому +2

    Remember the clone wars Episode when the Jedi got killed by the clone early in the war remember Rex had said that they where bread to withstand trauma

  • @XXAnthonyCarmineXx
    @XXAnthonyCarmineXx 14 днів тому

    Great video thanks for going over ptsd

  • @conditionunknownproduction5975
    @conditionunknownproduction5975 Місяць тому +2

    The Clone Wars did inpart, motivate my eventual enlistment into the Army. 0:46

  • @tacticalgoalie7211
    @tacticalgoalie7211 Місяць тому

    Great Job!!!!!

  • @sfkeepay
    @sfkeepay Місяць тому

    A viable explanation and worthwhile exploration. Very nice job.

  • @jamesallred460
    @jamesallred460 Місяць тому +1

    I with you Alan, I hope we get a bunch more clone content! Love action, animated, I don't care, just give us more clones!

  • @ek9029
    @ek9029 15 днів тому

    There’s a good example of this in American Sniper. When he’s back from a tour and at a birthday party, Chris’ PTSD kicks in and he finds himself ready to kill a kid that was being a nuisance. This isn’t him, it’s the trauma taking over his actions, much like what the inhibitor chips would have done to the clones.

  • @asiyahkhan444
    @asiyahkhan444 13 днів тому

    Very nice and informative video.

  • @sebastianortiz2359
    @sebastianortiz2359 Місяць тому +1

    i agree with you we need that

  • @ARandomInternetUser08
    @ARandomInternetUser08 23 дні тому +1

    The fact that the clones all had the mission, which I'm assuming is Order 66, on their mind all their life is disturbing.

  • @saparotrob7888
    @saparotrob7888 Місяць тому

    A stellar episode.

  • @justicetaylor3050
    @justicetaylor3050 Місяць тому +1

    Literally teared up sympathizing with the clones

  • @LogistiQbunnik
    @LogistiQbunnik Місяць тому

    Thanks for putting a sense of what really is going on in these shows (depicting horrible, long lasting, brutal war)

  • @paulchavez3039
    @paulchavez3039 8 днів тому

    Seeing that clone in Kenobi was the second best part of the whole series. It hurt so good.

  • @jackiew.747
    @jackiew.747 Місяць тому

    Yes! We need a live action of the clones.👍🏾💯 That's another series.

  • @vypergaming4974
    @vypergaming4974 25 днів тому +1

    Sometimes it makes me ligit cry because of how fucking deep the inhibitor chips by themselves go...man the dark side didn't fuck around

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860 Місяць тому +1

    Altered or not, they're still human, so I'd say yes, definitely, especially given all they've been through 😟

  • @cassiuscoleman4624
    @cassiuscoleman4624 6 днів тому

    I was initially skeptical about the Bad Batch TV series. Long story short - I'm glad I gave it a chance. I have to give credit to Dave Filoni who's also responsible for Rebels - another show I initially passed on - and the Clone Wars - which with a few exceptions - I absolutely love! Seeing where the Bad Batch is and knowing that this is it's last season I feel the same way you do in that I'm in awe and a little angry that the powers that be would only commit to such a short run for such a great series. But I don't think you have to worry about the higher ups to turn their noses to actually making some genuine profit. If the quality of intrigue and storytelling in this season of the Bad Batch - as well as the rumors of some notable movie project Filoni is said to have in the works - then I think we're a long way away from leaving these characters forever.
    I think that with everything we've seen over the past number of years - the Clone Wars - Rebels - The Mandalorian - Kenobi - and the Bad Batch we're not seeing the short burst peek into the lives of any of those individual characters and then moving on never to see them again. Instead we are witnessing the birth of a specific branch of the Star Wars ever expanding universe. But it has a sort of signature style geared towards intricately woven continuity, narrative gravitas, depth, characterization and very strong insight on so many levels. I may not agree with everything he's done or will do, but for the most part Dave Filoni has given me so much enjoyment, fun, excitement and joy with the majority of his creative enterprises.
    And you, sir of Generation Tech you put together some very nice videos and I have to say there's little to no hesitation when it comes to selecting one of your videos to watch or save for later on a playlist. Practical, logical insightful, intelligent and witty all make for some real cool videos. Keep up the good work.

  • @TheMAZZTer
    @TheMAZZTer 13 днів тому

    One theory I heard about why we have nightmares (or dreams in general) is because our brains are running through scenarios that worry us and we are trying to plan how to handle them. Of course if we can't find a solution to the scenario that is going to make the nightmare worse.

  • @starkdilemma4916
    @starkdilemma4916 26 днів тому +2

    Clones are genetically modified against PTSD, when Tup gunned down General Tiplar on Ringo Vinda, Fives outright says that clones are designed to resist ANY combat stress.

    • @heavy5013
      @heavy5013 13 днів тому

      Resist. Not be immune.

    • @starkdilemma4916
      @starkdilemma4916 13 днів тому

      @@heavy5013 On Umbara, they were attacked by steam punk, new age, centipede tanks from hell, forced to walk through live minefields, attacked by subterranean penis plant monsters, subjected to needless loss of life, subjected to the needless execution of their own brothers for illegitimate reasons, tricked into killing and being killed by their own comrades, and had their world view of the Jedi shattered. All in one day.... I think if PTSD were possible, it might have shown itself then. But no, the clones didn't shut down, they got angry and then got even.

    • @heavy5013
      @heavy5013 13 днів тому

      @starkdilemma4916 And you ignore the moments of legitimate PTSD that appear later, most notably in Rebels with Rex.
      And it's very possible some did develop it from Umbara but were never shown. There were hundreds or thousands of Clones involved.
      They're not immune. Clones can be affected by the trauma of war.

  • @stuartCcash
    @stuartCcash Місяць тому

    Another factor that plays into the idea of them being outnumbered and almost constantly on the front lines is that a lot of times PTSD doesn't present itself until the person has left the combat zone or the service, Although ofcourse their exceptions but I always thought that the real problems would start post war when the clones are discharged.

    • @iziahdelorme8698
      @iziahdelorme8698 Місяць тому +1

      Sometimes, it could take years to develop, which, would probably extra screwed up, just going about your life, the wars years behind, and then one night, you’re back there again

  • @stalinsghost1090
    @stalinsghost1090 Місяць тому +1

    The clones that “”retired”” need a series or something

  • @willwolf8436
    @willwolf8436 Місяць тому

    Its funny and a bit annoying at times when my college classmates find out I was in the Marines. One asked me once what was the worst thing I had ever expereinced while in. I usually dont say anything to negative, yet I was on new meds and I had a moment of vulnerability. I straight up said the worst thing I had expereinced was watching my friend die in my arms. Couldnt even hear crickets in the room.

  • @Gurunberudo
    @Gurunberudo Місяць тому

    Great video. Any chance you could list the music you use in the description? Keep up the good work.

  • @VerityAmul
    @VerityAmul Місяць тому

    A live action series focusing on clones and the clone wars would be amazing and a dream come true

  • @arthurbrandonnielsen
    @arthurbrandonnielsen 5 днів тому

    Fun Facts:
    1 - Most mental health advances have only occurred in the last 50 yeas.
    2 - Most physical health advances, especially basic hygine, have only been made in the last 100 years.

  • @AustynSN
    @AustynSN 9 днів тому

    Learned from an old George Carlin set ("Doin' It Again" on HBO/Video, "Parental Advisory Explicit Lyrics" on CD) of a couple other names. In addition to "Shell Shock" and "Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder", he also mentioned "Battle Fatigue" (likely an alternate name at the same time "Combat Fatigue") and "Operational Exhaustion". The latter was between "Battle/Combat fatigue" and "PTSD". Two other names I found while looking up the history of the name of the condition were "Operational Fatigue" and "Flight Fatigue" (the latter used just by The Air Force from what I can tell). Many of the terms used were started not by mental health professionals, but by the military.
    While I can understand the need for a term that covers the condition in both combat and civilian afflictions, I also tend to agree with the late great Mr Carlin that "if we'd still been calling it 'shell shock' some of those Vietnam veterans might have gotten the attention they needed at the time."
    And I too would like to see a show focused on the struggle of the clones after the war. Given that most of them were replaced with conscripted and recruited storm troopers then tossed aside by The Empire after the war, there's got to be a lot of resentment among the clones against the galaxy. There'd also be the fear among some that they could "snap" at any moment and kill their friends like they did their Jedi generals. The show could start with the clone Obi-Wan tossed a credit to, just a few moments after Obi-Wan walks away. Have him slowly walk through the streets, almost oblivious to anything going on around him. He eventually gets to a dilapidated building and walks in. There are dozens of clones around. Many of them passed out, others with permanent injuries such as missing limbs, eyes, etc. He sits down on the floor by another clone who just barely wakes up for a moment. He pulls the coin out of his helmet and tells the other clone, "General Kenobi gave me this one." The other clone smiles for a moment then says, "He visits you a lot," as his head falls on the first clone's shoulder and they both pass out.

  • @Canuovea
    @Canuovea Місяць тому

    This is an excellent video.

  • @natebartels1444
    @natebartels1444 Місяць тому

    Also definitely a live action Clone Wars series with the clones sounds amazing!