Usual records have directional noise cancellation that muffles the background, and the sounds of the shots (you can definitely hear the difference with earlyest range videos that didn't have it). This time it was disabled so you coiuld hear the shots without alterations.
"We won't even hear the mechanical sound of the slide cycling. We will however hear the sound of 10,000 angry bees because somebody felt the need to bring a drone to the video shoot." - Ian
@@HayDog322 Try that in the dark in a jungle. You have no visual perception of where the case went. However, if you rack the slide back you can focus on where the casing go's.
I always thought the suppressors wearing out so fast in MGS3 was a pure gameplay decision. But now I see that it was also based on realism. They even got the sound right for manual ejecting a casing.15 years later and I'm still impressed by the little details in those games, especially for their time.
Somewhere out there, a former Air Force procurement officer is shedding a single tear as Ian compliments the choice of suppressor for the XM9--it is the proudest moment of his life.
I would suggest the manual slide-lock system is very close for second. Another note, I really appreciate the same system being in the white from manufacturer as it is much easier to denote what the slide-lock is in Ian’s video.
@@brianbarrett2487 With the way the wipes wear out it's not like you can rely on shooter skill for any ambitious shots anyway. It's like having a barrel where the crown is not only poorly done but changes after every shot.
fun fact, in France, the S.P.A. is the "Société Protectrice des Animaux", animal protection agency... so the "Sneaky People Agencies", S.P.A., using the Hush Puppy is kinda ironic :p
Generals: not honorable, back in my day you stormed the machine gun nest head on with a knife. If you were a true man, you survived. Mainly because the rest of the squad was already wiped out and the enemy was changing their barrel.
And you'd be surprised to know, if you didn't already, that this sort of thing actually happened. Read up on Jack Churchill A.K.A Mad Jack if you wanna know more. Or watch the videos from Lindybeige, Yarnhub and the Infographics Show about this man. Don't know if his whole squad was wiped out though... But he was a true badass!
If I recall correctly that not why you manually load in mgs 2. It actually has to do with the fact that the less than lethal darts has less energy pushing them out which in turns mean there isn’t enough energy to get the slide to move normally. Also before you ask no it would not be a good idea to increase the powder load since that risk the darts going through the target instead of just the tip going in. So yeah while they probably got the manual sliding from real life the in game reasoning is far different. Still pretty cool anyways
@@RyoLeo Could also be both. If he engages the slide lock to prevent extra noise it doesn't matter if the darts have enough recoil energy to cycle weapon.
Seeker HUN maybe but base on how quickly they cycle the slide and the fact that they never engage the slide lock on the socom when that is suppressed I don’t think snake/raiden care much for the lock in the first place. Anyways cya later
@@rzerizrz that doesn’t necessarily apply to collectible firearms at all. It’s definitely nice to be able to shoot them, but there are new production guns with superior metallurgy for that purpose. If it’s a rare firearm or component that you don’t have any way to replace, in some situations it’s better to just take care of it for the historical significance. People thinking like that is the reason Forgotten Weapons has such a rich collection of gun videos. Along with Ian’s diligence, of course.
@@ThanksforcensoringmeUA-cam I get that, but, i guess machining and heat treating and such, of a new firing pin, cant be that difficult, if a person, who knows how to, and been doing that.. owns such rare gun...
@@rzerizrz the firing pin isnt the only thing that’s going to be subjected to wear/pressure in the least. Most of these classics were intended for older cartridges with lower pressures than their modern counterparts and have a hard time handling the increased pressure. You could reload to original spec, but if it’s something that you can’t replace then I still don’t see it as worth it in a lot of cases. Even if you could machine new parts, they wouldn’t be original. So depending on the rarity, some guns just AREN’T worth shooting anymore. It’s better for a whole group to be able to appreciate firearm history than for someone to get a couple rounds of modern ammunition through a classic firearm before they destroy it.
South Africa had exactly the same concept built on the z88 during the late 80s for use as a side arm for fighter pilots. Difference is that they had special red sights that lit up if you touched the trigger. They blinked three times to show where you were aiming as to keep enemies from seeing the sights in pitch black darkness. If you could get your hands on one of those....
@@justineallandevelos6491 John Wick played very fair with magazine capacity. I swear, they had one dude whose whole job is to count rounds to make sure that he reloaded when he needed to. John Wick didn't go Rambo, he went Solid Snake on their them.
one of the few videos where the sound plays an important role and that‘s when you have a dude flying his drone as well as a construction site in the background
Honestly it's probably a credit to the system's effectiveness that such mundane sounds nearly drown out the pistol. Anyone who thinks otherwise has never fired a firearm in their lives. Especially a non-suppressed one.
Out latest r&d has come up with this we call it the hush puppy CO "that's a cute little name" Navy seal in the corner "were gonna shoot dogs with it" CO " are you ok man"
In theory, it'd also be good in water insertions (ie SEALs doing SEAL things), as you wouldn't have to worry about water blocking the barrel (initially)
Yup, with an intact wipe and a round in the chamber the barrel should stay dry for a bit. Only leakage would be around the case as it's not a tight seal until fired. Now ya leave a fired case in the chamber, should be pretty sealed.
In practice the backside of this suppressor where it meets the barrel would be far less water-tight than a threaded-on suppressor. But a threaded suppressor that used wipes and had some grease on the barrel threads would probably be watertight enough for some swimming, at least at the muzzle end.
I wonder if they could've mounted the front sight to the can using a tightly fit ring that can rotate around the body of the silencer, allowing a minimum of windage adjustment
I remember this in Metal Gear Solid 2! Imagine my surprise to find out all they changed for that game was making it a tranq gun, it even fired single-action.
@@rockerdude8000 true that. but i wasn't aware that there was other sidearm designs that had side lock, only one i was aware was the H&K mk23 socom. its always nice to learn something new every day
Also replacement wipes now count as suppressor parts, so legally you have to be a dealer to own spares unless you wanna pay $200 for a 5 cent washer (or use McMaster Carr 😉)
I have Energetic Armament silencers that use an optional wipe in the front cap. The wipe absolutely helps quiet it. An overlooked thing on the wipes that I wasn't expecting cause nobody mentions it is that even shot out they help. A shot out wipe has a hole just large enough to well wipe the bullet creating a much tighter fit then any baffle. Also as Berry eluded to, it's lawful for me to make replacement wipes using silicone sheet that I get from McMaster Carr. I however must first destroy the old one before I make a new one. A tertiary benefit the the wipe that I like is that with a new wipe the muzzle is sealed from contaminants. As InRange has proven to us over and over an AR with a closed dust cover is quite sealed, that the muzzle is the only thing to worry about. Well a silencer with a wipe solves that.
@@snek9353 They should sell a punch and sheet of the gasket material, that way it's not technically a part until you (the end user) punch it out and you don't have to go to some other business to get what you need
@@HickLif3 Energetic Armament comes as close to doing that as they have any reason to. They say directly on their website, on the same page as the info on the silencer. " The wipe material is 1/8″ reinforced silicone sheet (McMaster-Carr PN 3635K17) that is punched with punch (McMaster-Carr PN 3427A26) out 1-1/8″ dia disks." They tell owners exactly what is needed and who they get it from. The only reason they'd have to sell it themselves would be to mark it up. But they don't even sell the silencers or any of the parts for them themselves. Or if that's somehow too difficult there's outfits that sell the wipes. It's a 1:1 trade for a small fee, you mail them a shot out one and they mail you a new one.
Octacon : "...She's not dead is she?..." Snake : "No. Just knocked out." Octacon : "Good." Snake : "Looks like an angel doesn't she?" Octacon : "What's gotten into you?" Snake : "Err...nothing..." Octacon : "Sleeping beauty may have been awakened by prince charming's kiss, but i suggest you not try it here!" Snake : "I'm with you. Besides, i've had enough of tomboys."
For a long time I thought the silencer depicted on MGS2 cover by Shinkawa was a fictional attachment because how "goofy" it looked. Indeed the artwork got it pretty accurately.
As far I'm aware MGS2, 3 and 4 have the most accurate depictions of military equipment. 1 it's almost there and in 5 for some reason they don't use real equipment.
@@Karv3r no Money for licensing maybe? Or not wanting to have the same problem 4 has? The game had so many licenses involved that they simply can't touch that game again.
@@ricardomiles2957 I think the guy they had consulting for accuracy in prior games got arrested for being a little *too* legit as well. Owned some hardware that Japanese weapons prohibitions disagreed with.
Hm in mgs the reason for the having to manualy rack the hush puppy after every shot was that the tranq rounds didnt have anough force to cycle it But this one is way cooler
I’m pretty sure Otacon mentions the slide lock mechanism at the start of the Tanker chapter in MGS2. I think the “tranq rounds can’t cycle” thing was in MGS4 when Snake uses a Ruger Mk. 2.
It sounds like the loudest part of firing that gun, was the bullets breaking the sound barrier and echoing through the woods. Great show, very informative. Thank you.
@@jonkerr7959 Still a brand of shoe. I've got two pair of wore-out Hush Puppies loafers right now. I also remember going to the Hush Puppies store when I was a kid in the 70's. Apparently the brand originated in 1958, but that was before my time.
my hypothesis is that the innermost wipes have smaller holes because they spend more time in contact with hot gases and stay more malleable for longer. very neat, I did not expect you to be shooting this when I opened the video
I've come to expect that when Ian brings up a weapon who's feature is the sound or lack thereof, we're getting a demonstration. Though it's usually a friday vid with a saturday demonstration. We got lucky today.
my guess is that since there are 3 wipes stacked together, the first wipe has the back supported better by the next wipes and thus has less chance of tearing out the hole. the last wipe in the stack with no support will tear the hole easier without support. thats why the very last wipe was missing a large hunk
On a side note, if I understand the current ATF rules correctly, the wipes are a suppressor component that is regulated. In other words, if you have a wipe based suppressor you are supposed to return it to have the wipes replaced. Being a suppressor component would mean that having an extra set of wipes, is the same as having a second suppressor and would require a second tax stamp. That makes a wipe suppressor not very useful for an individual. If I have this wrong, please let me know but that is the way I understand the latest interpretation to be. Great video! Take Care and be safe, John
I think this has changed. I do remember at one point if you had a “fake” suppressor, if you had a stack of wipes somewhere, they could consider your “fake” suppressor an NFA item. But that was so long ago, most suppressors use baffles now. Since the can is the registered part, you can buy all the wipes you want. But as always, don’t believe me, some random internet “expert”, check with the ATF. They post their “rules” online
I'm surprised I haven't seen this in movies etc with it being such a cool looking gun. That stigma about using suppressed guns is interesting. In a documentary about the SAS raid on the Iranian embassy they mentioned that there was a plan to attack using suppressed weapons but officials felt uncomfortable about it. It strikes me as an odd decision
thanks now I know what to name my next secret agency in my next game I play as I always have problem whit names. OSPA = "Other Sneaky People Agencies". just need to make sure there is a agency called Sneaky People Agencies (SPA)
I remember reading about this suppressor for the Beretta from a firearms magazine as a teenager. It's so cool to see this on your video about two decades later and even with a shooting footage. Thanks Ian!
John Wick enters restaurant Ian as a waiter: ah Mr. Wick what will you be having this evening? John Wick: The Hush Puppy special Ian as a waiter: As you wish Sir
Interesting alternative to the traditional "silencer" and the back story is fascinating, especially given the use of suppressed Swedish Ks by Mac v SOG and others, as well as the welrod, in the same time period
Hey Ian, you ever get a chance to come across one of them special revolvers that were developed for the "tunnel rats" during Vietnam? As I recall, it was a simple revolver that used specific shotgun type rounds that didn't flash in the dark nor made too much noise. I read a article about the type of guns used by the tunnel rats in a military surplus mag
I believe they were converted s&w 29s barrel cut back and loaded with some sort of modified giant rat shot cartridge I don’t remember whether or not they had made some sort of closed piston round like the Soviet silent pistol round
"It looks like the same gun used by Solid Snake *14* years ago. Following that terrorist incident, similar models were made and sold among the fans of his exploits."
Shooting something suppressed on camera will not provide any sort of decent representation of the sound in person anyway. The microphones just wont be decent enough to convey it realistically
Like what some people said the fact that you can clearly hear their conversation over the gun shots shows just how quiet it’s actually is since normal shots would blow out any conversation in any other situation. If anything I would rather have every suppressor show casing have a distance conversation in the background just to show the silencing effectiveness of said suppressor
@@basic5926 Depends on what you're using it for I suppose. The Welrod is significantly quieter, but it is definately built for only a few specific purposes.
@@toomanybrews7123 Definitely, the Welrod is way better if you're planning to hunt SS officers at a crowded cocktail party. I was just thinking from a general standpoint.
It was cool to see it in action. Before I left the FFL, I was working for, we had 2 of them come in the shop. It was neat seeing the Gas escape when the slide was manually operated.
I want one specifically because the slide has a locking mechanism for single, silenced shots. Lots of the noise comes from the slide racking and the bullet hitting the ground. With that it makes as little noise as possible. So freaking cool.
I get the feeling that suppressed pistols (Like the Welrod) were always supposed to be used form close enough tot the target that the loose sights weren't going to be a problem.
"Puthup" does come through after first two shots. I use headphones so maybe that helped. Also a smoke wave passing against dark shirt is clearly seen both times. In no-lock mode a low bass "thump" is heard in addition to slide clicks, guess it's the mentioned gas blowing out of receiver. Thanks.
Being a blowback pistol has always made the Beretta 92 and interesting suppressor host. Having no need for the Nielsen booster is nice for shedding weight and length.
I remember in the '80s being fascinated about what little I could find out about (pre internet so libraries and trade magazines and books about silencers) the Vietnam era Smith and the Hush Puppy. My dad served two tours and said he saw some of these, and suppressed Grease guns but never actually got to shoot them. I had my FFL/SOT as early as I could and bought an AWC - Automatic Weapons Company MK9 Hush Puppy and had the chance to talk to both Reed Knight and Phil 'Doc' Dater who I believe collaborated on the AWC thread on design. It has no Neilsen or booster device, although AWC was just starting to sell them.. I think first for 45 caliber. My MK9 is so light it functions perfectly on a Browning Hi-Power with an accessory threaded barrel I got from Bar-Sto. I have my manufacturer's SOT now so I can make and have extra wipes for this and other older wipe suppressors without worrying about the newest kid ATF agent getting too excited. Actually, they have never gone through my whole shop or house... the seven different agents I've worked with just wanted me to hold up various NFA weapons and suppressors so that they could see and verify the serial numbers. Only one guy actually showed interest in a .22 suppressor and I took it apart for him and let him see how it was put together. It had a fresh looking wipe and he didn't ask anything about that, he was more interested in the baffles and how they worked and how he thought they would actually go "the other way in the tube". I offered for him to shoot it into a big wooden box I had in the shop with old Shotgun News's and an old dog pillow but he declined.
It's not all about making the hole bigger by shooting a magdump through the wipes, or whatever muffler. Noise increases also by heating up the whole can, thus reducing it's ability to cool down gasses, which means more heard bang. With the first shot you also have air in the can to burn some unburn powder residues, which on further shots can at least in theory burn outside the can, thus making flash and bang. Or make bigger bang on the first shot .
I was once told by some people of the internet: "Don't hold the slide shut with your hand! It can damage the pistol!" even though they could provide no good technical explanation of why. Now here's a pistol designed to lock shut that has existed for decades.
Shawn R nope, it’s totally doable and not painful at all. Try it sometime. Doesn’t even require that much force. If you ever have to take a shot with the muzzle jammed so hard into your target thatthe slide moves back just a tad, you may need to force the slide shut withthe other hand and hold it there as you fire, to get it fully into battery. Of course it’s better to move the gun back a hair so you aren’t using it in single shot mode but if you have no other choice and your life is in danger do what ya gotta do. I can’t speak for other operating systems like rotating barrel or gas operated or such things, but you won’t hurt a blowback pistol by holding it shut. If that damages it, then it wasn’t gonna last another hundred rounds of normal fire anyway.
@@emersonb5764 I did not think it would hurt the weapon at all. Years ago I saw a 10/22 with a latch that held the bolt shut. Looked like a small version of a screen door latch with a groove cut in the back of the charging lever. Kinda snapped into place. I would just worry about my hand.
MVia just search “holding slide on pistol” and there are plenty of videos showing people doing exactly that. You can even stop a pistol from cycling by putting your thumb on the back of the slide.
AJ Now that sounds stupid: not from the “it won’t work” perspective, but from “putting all the force into a small hinged object” perspective. Better to use the heel of your hand and not risk slide bite or a sprained thumb from doing it wrong. Or just put you hand on the slide, more contact area for a better grip.
Those spacers in between the wipes… I don’t believe they’re there as expansion chambers, although they probably do function a little that way. The spacers as far as i understand it are intended to provide room for the wipes to deform into. If there was a full stack of wipes with no spacers, i believe it would significantly impede or possibly even deform the bullet. This would significantly reduce its effectiveness and maybe even make it unsafe. Edit : That also explains why some wipes have larger holes that others. The exit wipes before each spacer would have the largest and the entry wipes would have the smallest… like layered and spaced tank armour.
The wipes with spacers actually act as additional pressure chambers ... but more importantly, they create an orifice effect. In compressible flow, there will be a wave front propagating from the edge of the orifice hole radiating outward in a cone, which will act as a "step" in the pressure profile along the silencer. So the big main compartment drops the pressure from 35,000 psi down to 3500 or so, then each wipe/spacer stage probably drops it another 500 psi or so so that the gas pressure at exit is under 2500 psi. Just guessing on the actual numbers but that's the principle.
I have to admit, this is the first suppressor I have ever seen with 'wipes'. All of the other suppressors I knew about until now(with one exception) were all made(and I am probably describing this wrong) with baffles and additional chambers which would re-direct the gas and slow it's exit from the barrel, so it did not come out as a LOUD BANG! but rather a 'small bang'. The only 'exception' I saw was from a 'true crime' tv show where some young punk murdered his? parents using a designed suppressor he found online that he made with pvc pipe and cut up tennis balls.
oh, so THAT is what Otacon is talking about when he talks about a slide lock in MGS2, huh? also this thing about rubber wipes is why suppressors in MGS games wear out? cool af, and here I was thinking that those were introduced for gameplay purposes, but they are (somewhat) grounded in reality. that is so cool!
Ian: Films first suppressor video in a decade
Gun range: Loudest its been in a decade
Sounded like DOT was filling pot holes on an interstate
Usual records have directional noise cancellation that muffles the background, and the sounds of the shots (you can definitely hear the difference with earlyest range videos that didn't have it). This time it was disabled so you coiuld hear the shots without alterations.
Thought somebody was raking the gravel or something.
That's just the ATF agents watching because he has a licensed suppressor.
dustyak79 that would be a really silenced sound around these parts.
"We won't even hear the mechanical sound of the slide cycling. We will however hear the sound of 10,000 angry bees because somebody felt the need to bring a drone to the video shoot." - Ian
The American 180 was going off in the background
Who was mixing a batch of cement at the firing range?;)
@@Otokichi786 lol no shit right lol
And the idiots talking and moving in the background the whole damn time🤦♂️
@@Otokichi786 Yeah, whoever that was, was very annoying :(
There’s a third reason for having a slide lock - you don’t leave any empty cases behind
Sepuku78 I mean you can pick them up
@@HayDog322 Try that in the dark in a jungle. You have no visual perception of where the case went. However, if you rack the slide back you can focus on where the casing go's.
Dylan L Yes exactly. Pretty much impossible at the Jungle warfare training center in Okinawa or even Pendleton (depending on the terrain).
I mean, if it's impossible for you to find an empty case in the jungle, why would you worry about leaving behind an empty case in the jungle?
@@Captain-Jinn because you probably can't find it at night but you could probably find it during the day, especially with the aid of metal detectors
I always thought the suppressors wearing out so fast in MGS3 was a pure gameplay decision. But now I see that it was also based on realism. They even got the sound right for manual ejecting a casing.15 years later and I'm still impressed by the little details in those games, especially for their time.
Thank God someone else said something. Metal gear was the first thing I thought of!
@@impaler331SIGINT got me interested in firearms
@@alexmoon3844the custom made m1911
It was a gameplay decision, it was just the best kind of gameplay decision... the kind that can be justified in reality
This is not most supressors. They usually use 1 wipe, and have a series of metal chambers to act as baffles, and those dont wear out quickly
Somewhere out there, a former Air Force procurement officer is shedding a single tear as Ian compliments the choice of suppressor for the XM9--it is the proudest moment of his life.
The sight and mounting system is probably the coolest part of this thing.
I would suggest the manual slide-lock system is very close for second. Another note, I really appreciate the same system being in the white from manufacturer as it is much easier to denote what the slide-lock is in Ian’s video.
The sights are awful
@@brianbarrett2487 know you have to have at least good eyesight to be a jet pilot haha
@@brianbarrett2487 well. Guess to be prop pilot or any pilot in the US military
@@brianbarrett2487 With the way the wipes wear out it's not like you can rely on shooter skill for any ambitious shots anyway. It's like having a barrel where the crown is not only poorly done but changes after every shot.
Works well when shooting from a concealed position, like from under a cardboard box
Treat your cardboard box with care
Just don't end up with a *!* above your head, then you're screwed.
Snake!? SNAAAAKE!!
Miller was very clear that I'd want it on the R&D team
“Fancy high tech suppressor”
Is a tube with some rubber washers
Is a tube with some rubber washers copying the welrod pistol from WW2.
Shhhh the ATF is watching...
@@stilllife8 Figured as much...
You can make one of these at home if you want.....so I hear
@@dominantwolf4593 If you hear it then they probably didn't do it right...
"Did you say *Virtual* Mission ?"
"No Snake, the *Virtuous* Mission."
Also,
"Did you say *nerd* ?
"Not nerd, node."
"...Oh-"
no ''NODE''
"Colonel, we have Emma Emmerich here, WE MANAGED TO AVOID DROWNING"
"Good work, Raiden"
@Leide Keine Dummköpfe "What did you say?"
12 minutes in , somewhere steve1989 involuntary utters the phrase : " nice hiss "
A'ight, let's get this out onto a tray... *puts suppressed pistol on tray* Nice! M'kay.
Needs more gusset...
You know he likes that hiss so much because it means there is a much, much lower risk of spores growing in his bowels the next few weeks.
"Sneaky people agencies". I like that description.
I don't know why he called them that, he could have just given their initials....
@@canuckloyalist4681 do you mean SPA?
Those who Híllary uses to suicide people
yeah, it almost speaks chineese to me
@@Paratroopersteark You mean Yiddish
I remember infiltrating a tanker and a oil cleanup facility using this and putting every enemy to sleep.
So you remembered the basics of CQC...
Not even watching the video. Came straight to the comments looking for an MGS reference. Not at all disappointed.
@@hiharovic7284 same.
lalilulelo
M9....
Perfect weapon to have when jumping off a bridge on to an oil tanker in rainy weather while using a cloaking device.
Happens all the time on the Golden Gate bridge.
In love with MGS2 and don't know if I want the M9, USP9 or MK23 from that game. I know the MK23 would cost somewhere near 10k for it to be accurate.
@@gen-zboomer I actually got me an Italian Beretta 92fs, not quite an m9 though.
A little beauty sleep won’t hurt.
That slide lock just made the single shot pistols in MGS make so much more sense. I always wondered why your tranq gun wasn't semi-auto.
It could have been if Snake chose to not use the slide lock, but he rather stubbornly kept his thumb firmly planted on it
It probably wouldn't be able to cycle anyways
“ENEMY SIGHTED! REQUESTING BACKUP!”-Gurlukovich Soldier, 2009
"FREEZE!"
*shoots dart*
fun fact, in France, the S.P.A. is the "Société Protectrice des Animaux", animal protection agency... so the "Sneaky People Agencies", S.P.A., using the Hush Puppy is kinda ironic :p
Maybe they use the Hush Puppies to hush the puppies
Hahahaha
@@kristiankatic9965 If they're anything like PETA they prolly do.
@@badlaamaurukehu Afaik they are a legit animals protection/rescue organization. No notable scandals like peta
Enter the BT VP9
Generals: not honorable, back in my day you stormed the machine gun nest head on with a knife. If you were a true man, you survived. Mainly because the rest of the squad was already wiped out and the enemy was changing their barrel.
"Three hundred of us went in, and I was the only honorable one to survive long enough to be captured!"
And you'd be surprised to know, if you didn't already, that this sort of thing actually happened.
Read up on Jack Churchill A.K.A Mad Jack if you wanna know more. Or watch the videos from Lindybeige, Yarnhub and the Infographics Show about this man.
Don't know if his whole squad was wiped out though... But he was a true badass!
It would be quite a big surprise if enemy uses water cooled MG.
sounds like the Arditi the ww1 Italian storm troops who often did not carry a gun just knives and grenades
@@RealCadde I literally prefer Lindybeige over the Infographics show.
"The Hudson River, two years ago..."
Verrazano-Narrows bridge.....
"We had classified intel that a new Metal Gear was scheduled for transport"
@@OneKitthe whole thing stank
I still want to know how in the hell dot coms got metal gears.
“Igor, go cut circles from tire to use in captured gun!”
Nyet, is capitalism pig gun
"You see Ivan, when is use capitalist pistol, is of extra stealth!"
15:37
"You can actually re-order these..."
ATF: oh really?
".. back in the suppressor"
ATF: that's what we thought.
The baffles/wipes themselves are considered suppressors aren't they
round pieces of plastic...; must...regulate! :)
"Snake, try to remember some of the basic of CQC"
"Knife... Gun... Knifegun!"
"commencing virtuous mission..."
@Leide Keine Dummköpfe Hiimdaisy's "Let's Destroy The Shagohod"
Lol...haven’t heard that for 20 years.
@Leide Keine Dummköpfe Considering that I bought the game when it came out on PS1 in 1998, I’d say it was true. Go look it up.
3:17 huh so that's why you manually pull the slide back after each shot in Metal Gear Solid. Pretty damn cool.
If I recall correctly that not why you manually load in mgs 2. It actually has to do with the fact that the less than lethal darts has less energy pushing them out which in turns mean there isn’t enough energy to get the slide to move normally. Also before you ask no it would not be a good idea to increase the powder load since that risk the darts going through the target instead of just the tip going in. So yeah while they probably got the manual sliding from real life the in game reasoning is far different. Still pretty cool anyways
@@RyoLeo correct
@@RyoLeo Could also be both. If he engages the slide lock to prevent extra noise it doesn't matter if the darts have enough recoil energy to cycle weapon.
Seeker HUN maybe but base on how quickly they cycle the slide and the fact that they never engage the slide lock on the socom when that is suppressed I don’t think snake/raiden care much for the lock in the first place. Anyways cya later
Metal gear solid 3 actually had the MK22 hush puppy with a toggle lock on it
I was kind of hoping Ian would take out that drone..
You didn't notice the cut in the video? What do you think happened then? You think they waited for it to fly away? Naw they shot it off camera.
During the cut he whipped out his trusty Cobrey terminator and shot it down.
I bet he was tempted! Could belong to the range boss. Not very tactful shooting down his drone!
Target drone. Unscheduled Bofors practice that day.
Cypher....
It’s the same kind of suppressor they used on the Tranq M9 in MGS2 and I love it.
It's very generous that the owner let Ian do some shooting with despite the rarity of it. Big respect
If anyone can be trusted with priceless gun artifacts it would be Gun Jesus.
otherwise , i see no point of owning gun, if you are worried the firing pin can be worn by use lol
@@rzerizrz that doesn’t necessarily apply to collectible firearms at all. It’s definitely nice to be able to shoot them, but there are new production guns with superior metallurgy for that purpose. If it’s a rare firearm or component that you don’t have any way to replace, in some situations it’s better to just take care of it for the historical significance. People thinking like that is the reason Forgotten Weapons has such a rich collection of gun videos. Along with Ian’s diligence, of course.
@@ThanksforcensoringmeUA-cam I get that, but, i guess machining and heat treating and such, of a new firing pin, cant be that difficult, if a person, who knows how to, and been doing that.. owns such rare gun...
@@rzerizrz the firing pin isnt the only thing that’s going to be subjected to wear/pressure in the least. Most of these classics were intended for older cartridges with lower pressures than their modern counterparts and have a hard time handling the increased pressure. You could reload to original spec, but if it’s something that you can’t replace then I still don’t see it as worth it in a lot of cases. Even if you could machine new parts, they wouldn’t be original. So depending on the rarity, some guns just AREN’T worth shooting anymore. It’s better for a whole group to be able to appreciate firearm history than for someone to get a couple rounds of modern ammunition through a classic firearm before they destroy it.
This must be how they make those Life Saver gummies.
Yes, yes indeed.
THC gummies would be multi-purpose: noise suppression and "medicinal" use.
This is the cordite flavored version.
@@dentside78 can someone make a suppressor out of wine gums please? I believe the round ones are the perfect shape and consistency
ngl life savers seem like the perfect makeshift baffle
South Africa had exactly the same concept built on the z88 during the late 80s for use as a side arm for fighter pilots. Difference is that they had special red sights that lit up if you touched the trigger. They blinked three times to show where you were aiming as to keep enemies from seeing the sights in pitch black darkness. If you could get your hands on one of those....
ATF : I'm charging you 200 for each wipe son, use 'em sparingly.
Radiator hose and the ATF IS NONE THE WISER.
@@Jayhawkga ATF: Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!
Also applies for toilet paper in Australia.
Yeah pretty much
"You can't play Rambo with a Beretta M9"
John Woo wants to know your location
For best results, particularly in teahouse shootouts, you need a couple of Chinese Tokarevs with the infinite ammo cheat enabled.
Don't forget for also every hitman in the John Wick universe
@@justineallandevelos6491 John Wick played very fair with magazine capacity. I swear, they had one dude whose whole job is to count rounds to make sure that he reloaded when he needed to.
John Wick didn't go Rambo, he went Solid Snake on their them.
@@ShneekeyTheLost i meant with my comment is everyone in the John wick universe is using silenced pistols since you know every guy is a assassin😂
"The hole gets bigger as you shoot through it" . Wisdom for the ages.
one of the few videos where the sound plays an important role and that‘s when you have a dude flying his drone as well as a construction site in the background
They're probably just building a Metal Gear and the drone's just doing patrol routes, nothing to see here.
Cypher?!
@@ajdo1991 quick toss some shaff or what it now was called.
Honestly it's probably a credit to the system's effectiveness that such mundane sounds nearly drown out the pistol.
Anyone who thinks otherwise has never fired a firearm in their lives. Especially a non-suppressed one.
Out latest r&d has come up with this we call it the hush puppy
CO "that's a cute little name"
Navy seal in the corner "were gonna shoot dogs with it"
CO " are you ok man"
James Harding What is the ATF I don’t know anything about dat.
I laughed way too hard at this
In theory, it'd also be good in water insertions (ie SEALs doing SEAL things), as you wouldn't have to worry about water blocking the barrel (initially)
Yup, with an intact wipe and a round in the chamber the barrel should stay dry for a bit. Only leakage would be around the case as it's not a tight seal until fired. Now ya leave a fired case in the chamber, should be pretty sealed.
In practice the backside of this suppressor where it meets the barrel would be far less water-tight than a threaded-on suppressor. But a threaded suppressor that used wipes and had some grease on the barrel threads would probably be watertight enough for some swimming, at least at the muzzle end.
5 sec clearing time
"Avoid cycling mechanism noise"
*Sliding lock making loud click claks*
"you're not supposed to be trying to snipe things with this"
laughs in Suppressed James Bond Walther PPK
"And ignored the fact that they'd be using it on the guards themselves..." 😂😂😂
Sounds like the old wives tale : “No it’s really an anti material rifle! Honest!”
@@jeffreyroot6300 Yeah, we're just aiming for their belt buckles.
“Kept you waiting, huh?”
"I'm at the 'sneak point' "
The sights on the suppressor itself is interesting.
The time traveller
'1 Month Ago' - Welcome to late July 2020. No, things have gotten worse. Yup, apparently it IS possible.
@Bruh Fu they time travelled??
I wonder if they could've mounted the front sight to the can using a tightly fit ring that can rotate around the body of the silencer, allowing a minimum of windage adjustment
1 month ago. H O W
I remember this in Metal Gear Solid 2! Imagine my surprise to find out all they changed for that game was making it a tranq gun, it even fired single-action.
I always appreciated how much attention to detail was put into the firearms in Metal Gear Solid.
I was issued one of these when I was at 5th. Haven't seen one since. That was '97.
I wish you were allowed to keep it.
Ron Bush, did you hush any puppies with it?
"Don't kill me."
*Dances and drops dogtag*
Oh that brings back good memories my friend.
i had to check if i can find any MGS comments and i dint have to scroll long to find one xD
also now i learned why the M9 was single shot in MGS2 :D
@@HebuTheLoneWolf because the tranquilizer rounds aren't powerful enough to work the action I'm guessing. Then the real reason to balance the game out
@@rockerdude8000 true that.
but i wasn't aware that there was other sidearm designs that had side lock, only one i was aware was the H&K mk23 socom.
its always nice to learn something new every day
@Jean *UGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGH*
Huh, I wasn't expecting the wipes to be all packed into such a small part of the suppressor. Then again, I haven't seen many suppressors taken apart.
Also replacement wipes now count as suppressor parts, so legally you have to be a dealer to own spares unless you wanna pay $200 for a 5 cent washer (or use McMaster Carr 😉)
I have Energetic Armament silencers that use an optional wipe in the front cap. The wipe absolutely helps quiet it. An overlooked thing on the wipes that I wasn't expecting cause nobody mentions it is that even shot out they help. A shot out wipe has a hole just large enough to well wipe the bullet creating a much tighter fit then any baffle.
Also as Berry eluded to, it's lawful for me to make replacement wipes using silicone sheet that I get from McMaster Carr. I however must first destroy the old one before I make a new one.
A tertiary benefit the the wipe that I like is that with a new wipe the muzzle is sealed from contaminants. As InRange has proven to us over and over an AR with a closed dust cover is quite sealed, that the muzzle is the only thing to worry about. Well a silencer with a wipe solves that.
@@berryreading4809 oh, that's why you have to send an oil filter suppressor back to the factory now.
@@snek9353 They should sell a punch and sheet of the gasket material, that way it's not technically a part until you (the end user) punch it out and you don't have to go to some other business to get what you need
@@HickLif3 Energetic Armament comes as close to doing that as they have any reason to. They say directly on their website, on the same page as the info on the silencer. " The wipe material is 1/8″ reinforced silicone sheet (McMaster-Carr PN 3635K17) that is punched with punch (McMaster-Carr PN 3427A26) out 1-1/8″ dia disks." They tell owners exactly what is needed and who they get it from. The only reason they'd have to sell it themselves would be to mark it up. But they don't even sell the silencers or any of the parts for them themselves.
Or if that's somehow too difficult there's outfits that sell the wipes. It's a 1:1 trade for a small fee, you mail them a shot out one and they mail you a new one.
2:09 Ah yes, the S.P.A.
The Sneaky People Agency is so secret, even I hadn't heard of it until 15 minutes ago.
Ian knows all the secrets.
Octacon : "...She's not dead is she?..."
Snake : "No. Just knocked out."
Octacon : "Good."
Snake : "Looks like an angel doesn't she?"
Octacon : "What's gotten into you?"
Snake : "Err...nothing..."
Octacon : "Sleeping beauty may have been awakened by prince charming's kiss, but i suggest you not try it here!"
Snake : "I'm with you. Besides, i've had enough of tomboys."
But, they could be your partner in more ways than one!
“Scalloped cuts” is an interesting term, I would have just called them, “notches on the barrel of the gun.” I love how much I learn from this channel.
For a long time I thought the silencer depicted on MGS2 cover by Shinkawa was a fictional attachment because how "goofy" it looked.
Indeed the artwork got it pretty accurately.
I'll take a slice of that humble pie as well
As far I'm aware MGS2, 3 and 4 have the most accurate depictions of military equipment. 1 it's almost there and in 5 for some reason they don't use real equipment.
@@ricardomiles2957 Such a shame about 5. Those ugly fake guns with silly names really bother me every time I play it.
@@Karv3r no Money for licensing maybe? Or not wanting to have the same problem 4 has? The game had so many licenses involved that they simply can't touch that game again.
@@ricardomiles2957 I think the guy they had consulting for accuracy in prior games got arrested for being a little *too* legit as well. Owned some hardware that Japanese weapons prohibitions disagreed with.
The slide lock would also stop spent casings from flying off somewhere. That's pretty assassin
Hm in mgs the reason for the having to manualy rack the hush puppy after every shot was that the tranq rounds didnt have anough force to cycle it
But this one is way cooler
I’m pretty sure Otacon mentions the slide lock mechanism at the start of the Tanker chapter in MGS2. I think the “tranq rounds can’t cycle” thing was in MGS4 when Snake uses a Ruger Mk. 2.
@@bonnie1020a lol it wasn't a Ruger MK2. That's a .22 target pistol. It was a S&W 39
@@jcodym13 pretty shure thats mgs3 in mgs4 he uses a ruger
i assume both reasons apply
@@CaroFDoom The lower force is probably why they don't turn off the slide-lock
It sounds like the loudest part of firing that gun, was the bullets breaking the sound barrier and echoing through the woods.
Great show, very informative.
Thank you.
Colonel, we’ve managed to avoid drowning!
Just so you know, Hushpuppies are a french rock band whose second album is appropriately called "silence is golden"
its also a brand of shoe back in the 80s
@@jonkerr7959 Still a brand of shoe. I've got two pair of wore-out Hush Puppies loafers right now. I also remember going to the Hush Puppies store when I was a kid in the 70's. Apparently the brand originated in 1958, but that was before my time.
@MVia I did it so people would hear about the band. And I'm glad I did it because I learnt about the shoes.
@MVia They are good if you have wide feet. Hush Puppies and New Balance are about the only shoes I wear for that reason.
"The Guards Themselves" sounds like a good movie title.
It's a short series made by a UA-cam channel/creator group called 'door monster'
Can't wait for season 2
As long as quibi doesn't pick it up sounds like an amazing movie/show
I like "Sneaky people sort of Agencies."
@@jdsedger I like 'spooky boys' personally
my hypothesis is that the innermost wipes have smaller holes because they spend more time in contact with hot gases and stay more malleable for longer. very neat, I did not expect you to be shooting this when I opened the video
I've come to expect that when Ian brings up a weapon who's feature is the sound or lack thereof, we're getting a demonstration. Though it's usually a friday vid with a saturday demonstration. We got lucky today.
@@ekscalybur xvv
my guess is that since there are 3 wipes stacked together, the first wipe has the back supported better by the next wipes and thus has less chance of tearing out the hole. the last wipe in the stack with no support will tear the hole easier without support. thats why the very last wipe was missing a large hunk
On a side note, if I understand the current ATF rules correctly, the wipes are a suppressor component that is regulated. In other words, if you have a wipe based suppressor you are supposed to return it to have the wipes replaced. Being a suppressor component would mean that having an extra set of wipes, is the same as having a second suppressor and would require a second tax stamp. That makes a wipe suppressor not very useful for an individual.
If I have this wrong, please let me know but that is the way I understand the latest interpretation to be.
Great video! Take Care and be safe, John
Yep that’s how it works which is why you don’t talk about the sheets of polyethylene that look like Swiss cheese
I think this has changed. I do remember at one point if you had a “fake” suppressor, if you had a stack of wipes somewhere, they could consider your “fake” suppressor an NFA item. But that was so long ago, most suppressors use baffles now. Since the can is the registered part, you can buy all the wipes you want. But as always, don’t believe me, some random internet “expert”, check with the ATF. They post their “rules” online
I'm surprised I haven't seen this in movies etc with it being such a cool looking gun. That stigma about using suppressed guns is interesting. In a documentary about the SAS raid on the Iranian embassy they mentioned that there was a plan to attack using suppressed weapons but officials felt uncomfortable about it. It strikes me as an odd decision
"Other Sneaky People Agencies" - Ian 2020
thanks now I know what to name my next secret agency in my next game I play as I always have problem whit names.
OSPA = "Other Sneaky People Agencies". just need to make sure there is a agency called Sneaky People Agencies (SPA)
Troy McClure: "IS THIS GUN EVEN LOADED!!!!? I CAN'T HEAR A THING!"
US Air Force: "IT'S WHISPER QUIET!!"
Needs... Just... One rail somewhere... A monorail, if you will...
A smart phone decibel meter app in a window would be really nice for suppressor episodes, since the mic tends to auto-level the sound.
I remember reading about this suppressor for the Beretta from a firearms magazine as a teenager. It's so cool to see this on your video about two decades later and even with a shooting footage. Thanks Ian!
We’re getting close to completing Raiden’s load out
John Wick enters restaurant
Ian as a waiter: ah Mr. Wick what will you be having this evening?
John Wick: The Hush Puppy special
Ian as a waiter: As you wish Sir
Gun Jesus Christ, that droning gave me 2010 World Cup flashbacks.
Annoying!
O.O
He completely deflowered that suppressor.
@Masemeno Nasaku don't take away a kid's innocence...
Interesting alternative to the traditional "silencer" and the back story is fascinating, especially given the use of suppressed Swedish Ks by Mac v SOG and others, as well as the welrod, in the same time period
Hey Ian, you ever get a chance to come across one of them special revolvers that were developed for the "tunnel rats" during Vietnam? As I recall, it was a simple revolver that used specific shotgun type rounds that didn't flash in the dark nor made too much noise. I read a article about the type of guns used by the tunnel rats in a military surplus mag
I believe they were converted s&w 29s barrel cut back and loaded with some sort of modified giant rat shot cartridge I don’t remember whether or not they had made some sort of closed piston round like the Soviet silent pistol round
"It looks like the same gun used by Solid Snake *14* years ago. Following that terrorist incident, similar models were made and sold among the fans of his exploits."
Ahhh, the iconic pistol of Iroquois Plisskin
Thought Plisken used the USP.
@@grievouslytired7886 He refers to the tranquilizer M9 with the same kit as this.
@João Maverick
He does in Metal Gear Solid 2, since that's where they introduced non-lethal takedowns.
No! That man is NOT Solid Snake!
@@bonnie1020a
*"I'M SOLID SNAKE!"*
"You know what, I don't even care anymore..."
The camera could use a silencer, I can practically hear the other guys on the range scratching their butts.
Kiere Luurs he’s talking about people in the background besides Ian.
I found my new dream weapon. Literally everything about this gun is so god damn cool. The snap on suppressor, the slide locking. I absolutely love it.
Glad this video is back up!
Shooting a silenced gun to demonstrate its sound... Literally every1 in the background is making as much noise as possible... 😔
Shooting something suppressed on camera will not provide any sort of decent representation of the sound in person anyway. The microphones just wont be decent enough to convey it realistically
Also the fact theres a conversation occuring in the background gives something of a measure of how relatively quite the sound from the pistol is
Like what some people said the fact that you can clearly hear their conversation over the gun shots shows just how quiet it’s actually is since normal shots would blow out any conversation in any other situation. If anything I would rather have every suppressor show casing have a distance conversation in the background just to show the silencing effectiveness of said suppressor
@coachmilldawg i do what i can for my fans
@@davem2369 you dont have a single video what do you mean "i do everything for my fans?" If theres nothing you've done for anyone
My mate wants to know if it fires tranquilizer darts he's got a ship to take over
"Sneaky people sort of agencies" is my favorite way to phrase that, now.
Hey dad, can we get Welrod?
We have Welrod at home.
* Welrod at home: *
That meme is meant to imply that the XM9 is inferior, but I'd definitely take it over a Welrod.
@@basic5926 Depends on what you're using it for I suppose. The Welrod is significantly quieter, but it is definately built for only a few specific purposes.
@@toomanybrews7123 Definitely, the Welrod is way better if you're planning to hunt SS officers at a crowded cocktail party. I was just thinking from a general standpoint.
@@basic5926 I don't disagree with your original reply, but I just wanted the meme to work ^.^'
@@toomanybrews7123 i believe they can come pretty close with this one if they use subsonic ammo
"Jack, or should I say, Snake, you're a wonderful man, kill me, kill me now"
Back when i was a ranger i remember when Gaz told me switching to my pistol is faster than reloading.
The Truth don’t shoot from the hip! Aim down the sights!
How are your fruit killing skills, are they remarkable?
Don't you mean when you were still in the SAS mate?
It was cool to see it in action. Before I left the FFL, I was working for, we had 2 of them come in the shop. It was neat seeing the Gas escape when the slide was manually operated.
I want one specifically because the slide has a locking mechanism for single, silenced shots. Lots of the noise comes from the slide racking and the bullet hitting the ground. With that it makes as little noise as possible. So freaking cool.
Actually the _pa-thup_ sound _does_ come through (at least on my headphones), as well as the hissing on the 3rd shot. Very cool.
I get the feeling that suppressed pistols (Like the Welrod) were always supposed to be used form close enough tot the target that the loose sights weren't going to be a problem.
Kept you waiting, huh!
Its always good to hear the reality of suppressed weapon firing with the nonsense of the movies.
@MVia Installing something that doesn't come as part of the system makes it not average anymore, making your argument invalid.
@Lovecraft Mine is more effective.
"Puthup" does come through after first two shots. I use headphones so maybe that helped. Also a smoke wave passing against dark shirt is clearly seen both times.
In no-lock mode a low bass "thump" is heard in addition to slide clicks, guess it's the mentioned gas blowing out of receiver.
Thanks.
Being a blowback pistol has always made the Beretta 92 and interesting suppressor host. Having no need for the Nielsen booster is nice for shedding weight and length.
*uses hollow points
Wipes: why you do me like that
This had a more interesting history than i had thought it would. GJ Ian.
Red Dog Actual to Seal Team 6, don't forget your hush puppies on this mission.
*brawny giggling ensues*
It was today's years old when I realized why some filters can be used as make up supresors because of the washers.
@space cowboy#2 Shhh. Don't say that in public.
I remember in the '80s being fascinated about what little I could find out about (pre internet so libraries and trade magazines and books about silencers) the Vietnam era Smith and the Hush Puppy. My dad served two tours and said he saw some of these, and suppressed Grease guns but never actually got to shoot them. I had my FFL/SOT as early as I could and bought an AWC - Automatic Weapons Company MK9 Hush Puppy and had the chance to talk to both Reed Knight and Phil 'Doc' Dater who I believe collaborated on the AWC thread on design. It has no Neilsen or booster device, although AWC was just starting to sell them.. I think first for 45 caliber. My MK9 is so light it functions perfectly on a Browning Hi-Power with an accessory threaded barrel I got from Bar-Sto. I have my manufacturer's SOT now so I can make and have extra wipes for this and other older wipe suppressors without worrying about the newest kid ATF agent getting too excited. Actually, they have never gone through my whole shop or house... the seven different agents I've worked with just wanted me to hold up various NFA weapons and suppressors so that they could see and verify the serial numbers. Only one guy actually showed interest in a .22 suppressor and I took it apart for him and let him see how it was put together. It had a fresh looking wipe and he didn't ask anything about that, he was more interested in the baffles and how they worked and how he thought they would actually go "the other way in the tube". I offered for him to shoot it into a big wooden box I had in the shop with old Shotgun News's and an old dog pillow but he declined.
It's not all about making the hole bigger by shooting a magdump through the wipes, or whatever muffler. Noise increases also by heating up the whole can, thus reducing it's ability to cool down gasses, which means more heard bang.
With the first shot you also have air in the can to burn some unburn powder residues, which on further shots can at least in theory burn outside the can, thus making flash and bang. Or make bigger bang on the first shot .
I was once told by some people of the internet: "Don't hold the slide shut with your hand! It can damage the pistol!" even though they could provide no good technical explanation of why. Now here's a pistol designed to lock shut that has existed for decades.
Holding the slide shut with your hand, might damage your hand.
Shawn R nope, it’s totally doable and not painful at all. Try it sometime. Doesn’t even require that much force. If you ever have to take a shot with the muzzle jammed so hard into your target thatthe slide moves back just a tad, you may need to force the slide shut withthe other hand and hold it there as you fire, to get it fully into battery. Of course it’s better to move the gun back a hair so you aren’t using it in single shot mode but if you have no other choice and your life is in danger do what ya gotta do.
I can’t speak for other operating systems like rotating barrel or gas operated or such things, but you won’t hurt a blowback pistol by holding it shut. If that damages it, then it wasn’t gonna last another hundred rounds of normal fire anyway.
@@emersonb5764 I did not think it would hurt the weapon at all.
Years ago I saw a 10/22 with a latch that held the bolt shut.
Looked like a small version of a screen door latch with a groove cut in the back of the charging lever.
Kinda snapped into place.
I would just worry about my hand.
MVia just search “holding slide on pistol” and there are plenty of videos showing people doing exactly that. You can even stop a pistol from cycling by putting your thumb on the back of the slide.
AJ Now that sounds stupid: not from the “it won’t work” perspective, but from “putting all the force into a small hinged object” perspective. Better to use the heel of your hand and not risk slide bite or a sprained thumb from doing it wrong. Or just put you hand on the slide, more contact area for a better grip.
No BS, my grandpa down in Mexico has this whole kit.
Lucky gandpa ideed.
@MVia Just a long wait and paperwork
DFS got these kits back in the day. Don’t ask me how I know haha
Those spacers in between the wipes…
I don’t believe they’re there as expansion chambers, although they probably do function a little that way.
The spacers as far as i understand it are intended to provide room for the wipes to deform into. If there was a full stack of wipes with no spacers, i believe it would significantly impede or possibly even deform the bullet. This would significantly reduce its effectiveness and maybe even make it unsafe.
Edit : That also explains why some wipes have larger holes that others. The exit wipes before each spacer would have the largest and the entry wipes would have the smallest… like layered and spaced tank armour.
The wipes with spacers actually act as additional pressure chambers ... but more importantly, they create an orifice effect. In compressible flow, there will be a wave front propagating from the edge of the orifice hole radiating outward in a cone, which will act as a "step" in the pressure profile along the silencer. So the big main compartment drops the pressure from 35,000 psi down to 3500 or so, then each wipe/spacer stage probably drops it another 500 psi or so so that the gas pressure at exit is under 2500 psi. Just guessing on the actual numbers but that's the principle.
I have to admit, this is the first suppressor I have ever seen with 'wipes'. All of the other suppressors I knew about until now(with one exception) were all made(and I am probably describing this wrong) with baffles and additional chambers which would re-direct the gas and slow it's exit from the barrel, so it did not come out as a LOUD BANG! but rather a 'small bang'. The only 'exception' I saw was from a 'true crime' tv show where some young punk murdered his? parents using a designed suppressor he found online that he made with pvc pipe and cut up tennis balls.
Irony: other guns, the range is so quiet. Beautiful gun, great vid!
"freeze"
"MOH"
AKUH
oh, so THAT is what Otacon is talking about when he talks about a slide lock in MGS2, huh?
also this thing about rubber wipes is why suppressors in MGS games wear out?
cool af, and here I was thinking that those were introduced for gameplay purposes, but they are (somewhat) grounded in reality. that is so cool!
One of Gun Jesus's best vids.
He goes from explaination/history, to the range.
Love it.
I have toured the Knight facility in Titusville, FL; it is incredible.