This has quickly become my favourite EQ. I don't think people fully realize just how big of a deal this was when it launched, but as time goes by they will. It's very musical sounding.
Love that you've created this! All your emulations are amazing but there are SO many emulations these days. I'm getting far more excited by new modern tools that aren't just replicating what something else is doing.
@@jensloetzsch They took fabfilter features & put them in a new interface. Personally I think it's easier to use, but arguing fabfilter vs infinity is like arguing over which DAW is best.
Maybe because Steven Slate has defined Mid/Side erroneously. Mid is not necessarily what is perceived exclusively the middle , but the resultant audio from the summing of L & R channels (L + R, that is 0 degree phase shift content - totally in phase signal). Whereas Side is the resultant audio from the difference of L & R (L - R, that is 180 degrees phase shift content - totally out of phase signal). Example of why Steven Slate defined it wrong: a hi-hat (or a guitar, or a tom, whatever) panned to the left is affected by Mid EQing, even if it's postioned to the furthest left in the panoram (check it yourself in your Daw!). The way he explains is like MidEQing affects only what's in the center, and that is not true. He has a great voice though.
Thanks for the quick explanation; it helped a lot! I am curious what other people think: If you want to EQ specifically the low center end of a mix (bass, kick, etc.), wouldn't it be more natural to just go back into the mix and EQ those tracks, respectively? Let's say I have two guitars, panned hard left and right, but I want them to sound brighter; wouldn't it be better to just raise the EQ on their respective channels than to EQ the mix as a whole? TL;DR: What's the benefit of mid-side EQ over just EQing each instrument? Thanks :)
mid side allows you to attenuate frequencies that are either only in stereo (side) or only in mono (mid). with this, you can fine tweak specific frequencies of each instrument without changing the entire sound of the instrument ((ie if i side eq a guitar 5k hz +2dB, i’m only changing how the guitar is perceived in the stereo field but the content of the guitar that’s in the center of the field. it’s a bit more specific as to how i’m explaining it but just to help get the point across.
@SlateDigitalTv thanks for new anazing plugin in All Access Pass! And thank you for your tutorials which are easy and fast to understand. Helping me a lot!
Love your cool and clear explanation. Some just teach on UA-cam like they are teaching their fellow gurus . Thanks I am subscribing even if you didn't mention that.. awesome
We need a new and better Limiter in the Slate Digital collection, if not an update of FG-X. We need something solid, that kicks ass, maybe something like the Neve Limiter/Compressor, or Zener Limiter, or Heritage Audio HA Elite.
It’s taking me soo long and to finally get see it. So far best 4min I’ve spent in my life including great sex. Great” ROI” video. I’m gonna subscribe thank you so much for this video brother.
I was more interested in the technical way. From the title I thought this video would explain this technique more in general. How do you separate Mid and Side frequencies? Pretty disappointed to see a showcase of your EQ with the "magic" slider, that does things, but no mentioning, how it does it.
For less than the price of the Fab Filter Pro-Q 3, ($179), you can get the Slate Digital All Access Pass, ($149/Yr.) and enjoy this EQ plus all of the other world class analog EQ's, Compressors, Reverbs, Delays, ANA Synth, the KiloHearts Bundle, one of the best limiters in the biz and much more! You honestly don't need ANYTHING ELSE! Oh, did I mention all of the bundled tutorials? It's A NO-BRAINER.
How exactly is this different than going to the bass track and boosting the low end then going to the synth track and boosting the high end? Is this specifically only for mastering purposes?
@@RaduJon Sure! Mid is not necessarily what you perceive exclusively in the center (like kicks and snares). It's a little bit tricky, but simple. A hard panned signal does have Mid content and you percieve it totally in the side for example. Mid is the resultant audio from the summing of L & R channels (L + R, that is 0 degree phase shift content - totally in phase signal). Whereas Side is the resultant audio from the difference of L & R (L - R, that is 180 degrees phase shift content - totally out of phase signal). Steven Slate defined it wrong, why? Example: A hi-hat (or a guitar, or a tom, whatever) panned to the left is affected by Mid EQing, even if it's postioned to the furthest left in the panoram (check it yourself in your Daw!). When you do, howerver, mono the master channel you hear only the Mids, but no Sides (that is, only the in phase L/R content, and no 180 degree out of phase L/R content). When in stereo, signals can still be panned to the left or to right (not in the center) and "survive the monoing", that's because they have Mid and Side content, like the hi-hat example. The way he explains is like MidEQing affects only what's in the center, and that is not true. Check this tutorial mate: theproaudiofiles.com/mid-side-processing/
What about if a track is off only a little to the side? you only use two examples. Elements panned down the middle and elements panned down the center. What about if I have my guitars panned 50% to the L?
Fantastic E.Q, the only thing it's missing is a slider to drag the E.Q point up and down after you've boosted to find the frequency you want to cut etc. Also, just to play devils advocate... would it not make more sense just to go back to the individual tracks (contained in the mids and sides) and adjust the E.Q on the individual channels of busses?
Steven I love you’re plugins but this wasn’t a very accurate explanation of mid side processing. Mid is any information that is in phase when the left and right are summed to mono. Side is the information that is out of phase between the left and right. Yes anything planned right down the middle would only be in the mid because it’s exactly the same in the L&R, thus would be exactly out of phase if you flipped the phase of the L or R. But at the same time anything panned hard L or R would be contained in both the mid and the side because there’s nothing in the other side to cancel it out whether it’s in or out of phase. Stereo sources are going to be effected by both as well as there is information that is both in and out of phase contained in the audio.
Jason Maurer thanks for this feedback, however, the goal with this video was to explain the concept in a way that was easy for producers to understand and achieve results. So in that respect, I think this explanation works! 🤟
Overtime with practice you’ll hear how subtleties like this mid side EQ improves the mix 👍🏼 They have a ear exercise included in their all access subscription that trains you to hear certain frequencies and determine if they’ve been boosted, cut, etc
A fantastic explanation of mid-side eq. I was always a bit confused by the concept but this has explained it wonderfully. Thanks Slate!
This has quickly become my favourite EQ. I don't think people fully realize just how big of a deal this was when it launched, but as time goes by they will. It's very musical sounding.
I instantly like the video after he said “well tough we’re starting” lol that made me chuckle
Love that you've created this! All your emulations are amazing but there are SO many emulations these days. I'm getting far more excited by new modern tools that aren't just replicating what something else is doing.
@@jensloetzsch They took fabfilter features & put them in a new interface. Personally I think it's easier to use, but arguing fabfilter vs infinity is like arguing over which DAW is best.
Clear and concise explanation, thank you this makes sense now!
I can easily notice the difference even listening on the phone . thanks!
Why would someone put a thumbs down? Lol he’s explaining how to use the darn thing.
Maybe because Steven Slate has defined Mid/Side erroneously. Mid is not necessarily what is perceived exclusively the middle , but the resultant audio from the summing of L & R channels (L + R, that is 0 degree phase shift content - totally in phase signal). Whereas Side is the resultant audio from the difference of L & R (L - R, that is 180 degrees phase shift content - totally out of phase signal). Example of why Steven Slate defined it wrong: a hi-hat (or a guitar, or a tom, whatever) panned to the left is affected by Mid EQing, even if it's postioned to the furthest left in the panoram (check it yourself in your Daw!). The way he explains is like MidEQing affects only what's in the center, and that is not true. He has a great voice though.
@@chicogregori I see, thanks makes sense.
@@chicogregori 🤯
Mostly bots probably
That's just a promo disguised as a tutorial.
The explanation matched with the visuals made this ms EQ so much more easier to understand AND implement lol. Cheers
Slate digital's plugins and tutorials were so good and have more features that I can apply their tips and trick for other plugins.
Love the M/S slider. Such an intuitive way to navigate this feature.
thank you so much for such help and infos, greetings from Germany
Steven slate is a genius! Since I had the everything bundle I don’t use anything else
This tutorial is game-changer.
This M / S blending feature is a great idea.
best MS explanation on the net and instant thumbs up for the intro 😆
you are the man Slate!
Man, Slate is doing it again.
A very clear explanation. Thanks a lot dude! Cheers.
this guy is a genius
Thanks for the quick explanation; it helped a lot! I am curious what other people think: If you want to EQ specifically the low center end of a mix (bass, kick, etc.), wouldn't it be more natural to just go back into the mix and EQ those tracks, respectively? Let's say I have two guitars, panned hard left and right, but I want them to sound brighter; wouldn't it be better to just raise the EQ on their respective channels than to EQ the mix as a whole? TL;DR: What's the benefit of mid-side EQ over just EQing each instrument? Thanks :)
if you have stems yes it’s much easier to just tweak individual tracks. some people don’t have the luxury of that in some songs
mid side allows you to attenuate frequencies that are either only in stereo (side) or only in mono (mid). with this, you can fine tweak specific frequencies of each instrument without changing the entire sound of the instrument ((ie if i side eq a guitar 5k hz +2dB, i’m only changing how the guitar is perceived in the stereo field but the content of the guitar that’s in the center of the field. it’s a bit more specific as to how i’m explaining it but just to help get the point across.
@SlateDigitalTv thanks for new anazing plugin in All Access Pass! And thank you for your tutorials which are easy and fast to understand. Helping me a lot!
Awesome, you're the best bro!
Thank you for the class! best Explanation yet.
Really well explained!!
Simple and straight to the point. Thanks man! :D
Love your cool and clear explanation. Some just teach on UA-cam like they are teaching their fellow gurus . Thanks I am subscribing even if you didn't mention that.. awesome
SlateDigitalTV Can you make a dynamic version of this EQ (with attack, release and threshold settings)? It would be the best ever!
Yes please. Good question! Mid side compression with slate digital is possible?
And better optimization. The plugin loads slow.
Thanks for the Explanation
Bro you are a monster 👹
Gamechanger. Thank you!
Looks great!! 👏🤩
Amazing explaination.
Pretty rad!
Thank you!
Wonderful. Thanks!
Thank you:)
Very nice can't wait to download it! Do you guys have an autotune plugin in the works yet?
Great explanation, thank you ❤️
We need a new and better Limiter in the Slate Digital collection, if not an update of FG-X.
We need something solid, that kicks ass, maybe something like the Neve Limiter/Compressor, or Zener Limiter, or Heritage Audio HA Elite.
It’s taking me soo long and to finally get see it. So far best 4min I’ve spent in my life including great sex. Great” ROI” video. I’m gonna subscribe thank you so much for this video brother.
Great I will try it over my Q3 right?
Thank you!!!
Thank you. My Pro-Q3 eq also has the option to process Left and Right. What makes this different from Side?
Thanks for the tut, finally understanding MSEQ.
By the way, where can I get the full version of the mix, I am digging it 😌
Love it!!!
Next Mid Side Compressor with Slate digital Compressor Plz
I was more interested in the technical way. From the title I thought this video would explain this technique more in general. How do you separate Mid and Side frequencies? Pretty disappointed to see a showcase of your EQ with the "magic" slider, that does things, but no mentioning, how it does it.
@david lincoln brooks fabfilter did a much better job at explaining the principle behind this.
Thank You
Great innovation!
For less than the price of the Fab Filter Pro-Q 3, ($179), you can get the Slate Digital All Access Pass, ($149/Yr.) and enjoy this EQ plus all of the other world class analog EQ's, Compressors, Reverbs, Delays, ANA Synth, the KiloHearts Bundle, one of the best limiters in the biz and much more! You honestly don't need ANYTHING ELSE! Oh, did I mention all of the bundled tutorials? It's A NO-BRAINER.
Powerful EQ.
Nice
Can you do this say if you have two duplicates of a instrument track panned left and right with a simple eq plugin?
So do you put this on the master? And what happens if you have vocals panned left n right like adlins
How exactly is this different than going to the bass track and boosting the low end then going to the synth track and boosting the high end? Is this specifically only for mastering purposes?
It isn't...it is just a chimera...
Mid - Center
Side - NOT in Center
Any questions ? 😅👍
Wrong!
You can at least say WHY I’m wrong
@@RaduJon Sure! Mid is not necessarily what you perceive exclusively in the center (like kicks and snares). It's a little bit tricky, but simple. A hard panned signal does have Mid content and you percieve it totally in the side for example. Mid is the resultant audio from the summing of L & R channels (L + R, that is 0 degree phase shift content - totally in phase signal). Whereas Side is the resultant audio from the difference of L & R (L - R, that is 180 degrees phase shift content - totally out of phase signal). Steven Slate defined it wrong, why? Example: A hi-hat (or a guitar, or a tom, whatever) panned to the left is affected by Mid EQing, even if it's postioned to the furthest left in the panoram (check it yourself in your Daw!). When you do, howerver, mono the master channel you hear only the Mids, but no Sides (that is, only the in phase L/R content, and no 180 degree out of phase L/R content). When in stereo, signals can still be panned to the left or to right (not in the center) and "survive the monoing", that's because they have Mid and Side content, like the hi-hat example. The way he explains is like MidEQing affects only what's in the center, and that is not true.
Check this tutorial mate: theproaudiofiles.com/mid-side-processing/
Francisco Gregori You are certainly technical and well informed 😊 Respect 👍
@@RaduJon Tks bro!
Thx!
Super!
Good plugin Steven. It looks so beauty but all the icons and inscriptions are too small(((
Great demonstration but anyone obsessed with how dope that loop sounds? Any Id on the track?
if i just use simple eq 80hz bass and then put bass to mono its no need for mid/side eq??
🔥🎶
What about if a track is off only a little to the side? you only use two examples. Elements panned down the middle and elements panned down the center. What about if I have my guitars panned 50% to the L?
What's the track.
berfect👍😍
Can't buy it as a one off payment?
Why don't we just find the kick and bass in the mixer and tweak them individually ?
You could have also high passed the low end of the Sides!
Fantastic E.Q, the only thing it's missing is a slider to drag the E.Q point up and down after you've boosted to find the frequency you want to cut etc.
Also, just to play devils advocate... would it not make more sense just to go back to the individual tracks (contained in the mids and sides) and adjust the E.Q on the individual channels of busses?
why not just eq the synth separate?
Imaging being able to dynamically control mid and side haha
Cat andbeats you can with Pro Q3 and per band dynamic side chain
You can do that right now in our SnapHeap plugin!!
@@jackt3019 wow that sounds nagical
@@SlateDigitalTV How do we process M/S in Snap Heap?
You're Side's a pictured wrongly - is should only go to an angle of 45 - not 90 :-)
this guy sounds like he does video game voice overs
I am still waiting for FG-X 2, it was due 4 years ago..............Is it gonna be a free upgrade or will i have to pay for waiting as well?
Steven I love you’re plugins but this wasn’t a very accurate explanation of mid side processing. Mid is any information that is in phase when the left and right are summed to mono. Side is the information that is out of phase between the left and right. Yes anything planned right down the middle would only be in the mid because it’s exactly the same in the L&R, thus would be exactly out of phase if you flipped the phase of the L or R. But at the same time anything panned hard L or R would be contained in both the mid and the side because there’s nothing in the other side to cancel it out whether it’s in or out of phase. Stereo sources are going to be effected by both as well as there is information that is both in and out of phase contained in the audio.
Jason Maurer thanks for this feedback, however, the goal with this video was to explain the concept in a way that was easy for producers to understand and achieve results. So in that respect, I think this explanation works! 🤟
I did not hear any diffrence. Used my earbuds on the phone.
Overtime with practice you’ll hear how subtleties like this mid side EQ improves the mix 👍🏼 They have a ear exercise included in their all access subscription that trains you to hear certain frequencies and determine if they’ve been boosted, cut, etc
Thank You