I have most of the work of me and some fellow students. The material is not rocket science, but to get direct feedback on your work from such skilled people (not to mention some of the other students) is invaluable and really saves you a lot of trial and error.
@@BillBrolse it depends....I took the course and frankly speaking...it is complex and deep. I took it as well and if you think it is not rocket science then you did not dig deep enough into the course to understanding Mastering.......very simple about 40 years put in 12 weeks.Of course unless you have been doing for 30 years+ ... which in this case most students will be at a loss or whatever they do...and last....you should not be sharing Berklee material that is not yours ......it is only for your eyes....
@@atta1798 You are right. Learning all the tools, and understand how they work isn´t rocket science. Learning how to use them to achieve what you vision - with intention and skill - is an endless journey of discoveries.
I’d been using mid/side eq on my mastering for the first time recently with great results, but had no understanding until this great explanation. Thanks. I get it now
Took me a few times to understand but I eventually took it in. Great tip about spreading hi fq info to the sides. Also nice to note that elements within the mid/mono are preceded louder so it's important to control the elements i.e. Percussion /bass and lower end of vocals within the mid. Lastly great tip that compressing elements in the mid can "move their presence" back. Really wish I could afford Ozone I love the fact that you can crossover different bands and work on a specific band/section of fq for compression, distortion, mid side, etc. thanks Jonathan and Izotope for a great video!
Just wanted to say thanks Johnathan and Izotope.. I find your content very educating. There is a lot of info that is unreliable but I like the fact that I know you are always on point.
A very interesting perspective. Thank you for the info and the manner in which is was presented. I feel like I just learned something extremely important here.
This is some great content and presented so well that I looked up Jonathan Wyner and found out he worked with The Residents and Snakefinger, which really made me flash back to the 90s, when I used to listen to those a lot. Anyway, it's kind of hard to come across content on UA-cam that's explained so succinctly. Thanks!
I literally bought analog de esser, comps and eq just to master in M/S and oh boy, was it worth it. Then you just re-compress in stereo to glue everything again and limit. It just sounds SO cool.
Sometimes I watch youtube videos and wonder if the presenters are testing you or considering the things they're presenting in the material that they 're presenting. We're used to vocals coming from a single mic in the center or several mics in a mono type of configuration, and this sounds like it was probably recorded in stereo and Jonathan sounds as if he's coming from both sides and maybe even a little behind me, as opposed to right in front of me. Could be in my head, but seemed to go away or significantly decrease when I put my audio in mono. Thank you for the very clear breakdown of mid/side and desibilance and the likely impact of their use.!
Thanku so much.. master,love from India .my mixes suffers t lack in excitement. Ur lesson helped me so much in realizing to make my mix better.. Thank u so much guru.
when the guys who make mastering tools don't master their videos. seriously, I had to turn up my monitors to 100% to get to moderate levels coming from another video lol
Yeah, I never understand how videos from professional audio companies / producers ignore the simple concept of post production / mastering the audio of their videos. Especially ironic from isotope who sell mastering tools
Thanks Jonathan, very useful info on how 2 better use Ozone! Please answer this would u? IF I RECORDED N MIXED DA WHOLE THING, WHY WOULD I EQ DA WHOLE TRACK AT MASTERING, IF I CAN SPECIFICALLY ADJUST EACH SINGLE TRACK?
Do you switch back to stereo after mid side processing? Would the same changes carry over to stereo or does it requires to remain in mid side mode after processing?
Technically, Mid is not what's absolutely identical: it's the sum. If I had 1K in Left and 2K in Right, they would have zero correlation, zero commonality. But those frequencies would appear in *both Mid and Side.* Mid would contain L+R and Side would contain L-R. From a production standpoint the stereo staging model is the best one to think about, especially if you're used to headphones.
Great video as always from Mr. Wyner BUT I have to ask: why, when he's talking about levels and panning at the beginning and how having something panned in the center is louder than if being panned to one side or the other he ignores pan law settings?
I can't help but notice how the M/S term is maybe not correct for some uses. I thought that referred to a very specific dual microphone stereo recording technique. In many places I see it used to refer to Mids and Highs 'separation' through EQ in a regular stereo audio track. That confuses me a bit.
Great vid, however one correction. He mentioned, during the beginning, that if you add a speaker with the same sound, you will get double the power ( I paraphrase) the physics are, if you double the surface area (adding another speaker doing the same thing) you gain exactly 3dB, not double the power. It takes 10 times the power the double the output.
Oxyplan Music Production yeah, it’s a common mis-conclusion that twice the air movement is double the volume, like the terms Sub Bass & Subsonic frequencies, when what we really mean is infrasonic bass. Subsonic frequencies literally mean slower than the the speed of sound.
Hello, I ask you again IZotope, is it very difficult to enable automatic subtitling in Spanish ?. I have no choice but to download the video, upload it to my channel and enable the subtitle myself. Thanks for the videos that go up
newb question here. Live concert taper. Good at capturing great recordings, but still have so much to learn about mastering. Is this all assuming that the master was recorded in mid-side mode? Or is it possible to use the tools he's demonstrating on a regular 2 channel stereo recording
I think that description of mid/side glosses over the fact that in mid/side treatment of a master stereo output wrecks pans of mono recordings. There's no magical problem free m/s encoding/decoding without side-effects like this. Pans are an important part of the stereo image.There are ways around that of course, but run of the mill m/s will make this happen as a natural effect.
Whoa, that 0.6dB mid raise in the vocals was extremely impactful.
He was one of the teachers at a 12 week online mastering course at Berklee. One of the best classes I ever attended.
lol..dang you got any course material still???
I have most of the work of me and some fellow students. The material is not rocket science, but to get direct feedback on your work from such skilled people (not to mention some of the other students) is invaluable and really saves you a lot of trial and error.
Can you post the link for his online class? I'm very interested in checking it out! Thanks!
@@BillBrolse it depends....I took the course and frankly speaking...it is complex and deep. I took it as well and if you think it is not rocket science then you did not dig deep enough into the course to understanding Mastering.......very simple about 40 years put in 12 weeks.Of course unless you have been doing for 30 years+ ... which in this case most students will be at a loss or whatever they do...and last....you should not be sharing Berklee material that is not yours ......it is only for your eyes....
@@atta1798 You are right. Learning all the tools, and understand how they work isn´t rocket science. Learning how to use them to achieve what you vision - with intention and skill - is an endless journey of discoveries.
Haha the pure disdain on his face when he says "laptop speakers"
hmar
they really are shit speakers to be honest, but the disdain was there def
I don't know how anyone can listen to music on laptop or phone speakers. It's entirely pointless IMO.
Lmao I thought this same exact thing 😂
@@abrotherinchrist what if you have nothing else to listen on?
I’d been using mid/side eq on my mastering for the first time recently with great results, but had no understanding until this great explanation. Thanks. I get it now
Top notch presentation by a top notch presenter. Thank you for posting this.
Very informative and enjoyable to watch thank you
Took me a few times to understand but I eventually took it in. Great tip about spreading hi fq info to the sides. Also nice to note that elements within the mid/mono are preceded louder so it's important to control the elements i.e. Percussion /bass and lower end of vocals within the mid. Lastly great tip that compressing elements in the mid can "move their presence" back. Really wish I could afford Ozone I love the fact that you can crossover different bands and work on a specific band/section of fq for compression, distortion, mid side, etc. thanks Jonathan and Izotope for a great video!
Brief and detailed coverage of the fundamental things to watch out for when it comes to Mid/Side treatment!
Great video. Great teaching. I know why he's Education Director.
Just wanted to say thanks Johnathan and Izotope.. I find your content very educating. There is a lot of info that is unreliable but I like the fact that I know you are always on point.
Thank you sir, you are the "Mr. Rogers" of mastering.
A very interesting perspective. Thank you for the info and the manner in which is was presented. I feel like I just learned something extremely important here.
All these tutorials from Izotope are gold! Love them
What a gentleman, beautiful presentation and great advice.
Been using this technique more and more - great information!
I could listen to Jonathan Wyner talk all day ...
This is some great content and presented so well that I looked up Jonathan Wyner and found out he worked with The Residents and Snakefinger, which really made me flash back to the 90s, when I used to listen to those a lot.
Anyway, it's kind of hard to come across content on UA-cam that's explained so succinctly. Thanks!
Michael I was just thinking about chewing hides the sound the other day!
Excellent presentation !!!!!!!!!!
I literally bought analog de esser, comps and eq just to master in M/S and oh boy, was it worth it.
Then you just re-compress in stereo to glue everything again and limit. It just sounds SO cool.
What a wonderful n worthful tutorial sir. Thanks n God bless u sir
this guy is an absolute GENIUS! she just explain in a split second!
Sometimes I watch youtube videos and wonder if the presenters are testing you or considering the things they're presenting in the material that they 're presenting. We're used to vocals coming from a single mic in the center or several mics in a mono type of configuration, and this sounds like it was probably recorded in stereo and Jonathan sounds as if he's coming from both sides and maybe even a little behind me, as opposed to right in front of me. Could be in my head, but seemed to go away or significantly decrease when I put my audio in mono.
Thank you for the very clear breakdown of mid/side and desibilance and the likely impact of their use.!
Great tutorial, Jonathan.
Thank you, really useful video, very clearly and concisely explained.
Interesting....Thank you Izotope, thank you Jonathan
most realxing education video =)
Wow. I think your video is going to save me on a mastering project that I have been struggling with. I just subscribed. Fantastic videk.
I like this guy, his explanation is nice
Thanku so much.. master,love from India .my mixes suffers t lack in excitement. Ur lesson helped me so much in realizing to make my mix better..
Thank u so much guru.
so well explained!
He explained this very clearly.
Good educator & also good man.
all his tutorials are great
wow this information just changed my mixes.
Love the mono de-essing ... Sounds really good to me
Awesome as usual. Thanks Jonathan
The real teacher 👨🏫
"I'll park the threshold wherever I want" - Jonathan Wyner
what an amazing teacher!
Awesome lesson. Thank you very much.
Always quality from this guy
Very good, nice video and professional.
Mr Wayner ur a magician! Tambourine trick blew my mind (I didn't get it though but I could hear it) Amazing!
Thanks. That was great information.
when the guys who make mastering tools don't master their videos. seriously, I had to turn up my monitors to 100% to get to moderate levels coming from another video lol
Yeah, I never understand how videos from professional audio companies / producers ignore the simple concept of post production / mastering the audio of their videos. Especially ironic from isotope who sell mastering tools
Are you (iZotope) listening? 😂
lmao real shit
20 seconds in i'm just scrolling looking for this comment. ty haha
The worst is the discrepancy in volume of his voice and song
Wow what an informative video sir hats off to you 🙏👏🎩😍
Wow, great content! A learn a few important things. Thanks
Awesome, thank you. 🙏
Great tute, keep em comin'! :)
I'm watching greatness.....wow!
Fantastic video,
Thanks Jonathan, very useful info on how 2 better use Ozone! Please answer this would u? IF I RECORDED N MIXED DA WHOLE THING, WHY WOULD I EQ DA WHOLE TRACK AT MASTERING, IF I CAN SPECIFICALLY ADJUST EACH SINGLE TRACK?
Jon literally looks like a mad genius scientist. ;)
Really helpful tip to me. Many thanks!
Thanks for the info - this was a big help.
excellent sir...
Helpful video thank you!
Do you switch back to stereo after mid side processing? Would the same changes carry over to stereo or does it requires to remain in mid side mode after processing?
Love these tips thanks!
Thanks for showing
Technically, Mid is not what's absolutely identical: it's the sum. If I had 1K in Left and 2K in Right, they would have zero correlation, zero commonality. But those frequencies would appear in *both Mid and Side.* Mid would contain L+R and Side would contain L-R. From a production standpoint the stereo staging model is the best one to think about, especially if you're used to headphones.
Very helpful. Thanks
great video!
Thank you!
how the heck did you do the solo equing to hear just the eq alone in 7:30? someone help please lol
Place your cursor at the desired frequency and option+click on a Mac, alt+click on PC. Hold and drag the mouse around to hear that frequency isolated.
Great video as always from Mr. Wyner BUT I have to ask: why, when he's talking about levels and panning at the beginning and how having something panned in the center is louder than if being panned to one side or the other he ignores pan law settings?
How did he focus in the EQ only on a band of the spectrum?
musicdoge hold 'alt' and hold left click
The mid part isn't just the MONO part of the audio. It is also the stereo part of the signal that is identical on both sides. Is that correct?
There is no mono track. Other than that you are correct.
yes
Just awesome.
Amazing
really does something!
I can't help but notice how the M/S term is maybe not correct for some uses. I thought that referred to a very specific dual microphone stereo recording technique.
In many places I see it used to refer to Mids and Highs 'separation' through EQ in a regular stereo audio track. That confuses me a bit.
I love the license friendly Party in the USA track haha
Mehn!! Thank you so much for this.. it really helped.
what plugin is this?
Great vid, however one correction. He mentioned, during the beginning, that if you add a speaker with the same sound, you will get double the power ( I paraphrase) the physics are, if you double the surface area (adding another speaker doing the same thing) you gain exactly 3dB, not double the power. It takes 10 times the power the double the output.
lol it bothered me too
Oxyplan Music Production yeah, it’s a common mis-conclusion that twice the air movement is double the volume, like the terms Sub Bass & Subsonic frequencies, when what we really mean is infrasonic bass. Subsonic frequencies literally mean slower than the the speed of sound.
I
amazing
thanks very much
Which izotope plugin were you using???
I want to buy that.
ozone
Starts at 4:15
[from the back seats] Louder!)))
No discussion of side processing in phase correction.
Thank you
Hello, I ask you again IZotope, is it very difficult to enable automatic subtitling in Spanish ?. I have no choice but to download the video, upload it to my channel and enable the subtitle myself. Thanks for the videos that go up
The Real Deal...Thanks
This man is a boss
Great sir
newb question here. Live concert taper. Good at capturing great recordings, but still have so much to learn about mastering. Is this all assuming that the master was recorded in mid-side mode? Or is it possible to use the tools he's demonstrating on a regular 2 channel stereo recording
I think that description of mid/side glosses over the fact that in mid/side treatment of a master stereo output wrecks pans of mono recordings. There's no magical problem free m/s encoding/decoding without side-effects like this.
Pans are an important part of the stereo image.There are ways around that of course, but run of the mill m/s will make this happen as a natural effect.
Mid, side, top and bottom. But does it sound good?!
Thanks!
umetisha dingi
actually now listening to music in the car is probably the most common way to listen to music
this guy has sage knowledge on audio minutia
Disappointed that you didn't address using Mid/Side in the Imager
Nice.
Valuable information
perfect
Sweet!
I dig that shirt.
Спасибо!очень полезное видео!