i am fixing up my ebike too and boy oh boy the number of problems I had was crazy. in the end, you learn so much about what not to do. fixing ebikes is all about learning what not to do so next time you can do it faster
The rear wheel .. getting it back on .. been there for sure too .. each time it remains not a case of simply sliding it in there as many other vids show ... Like this video!
I'm surprised that it was that easy to get the original motor out, with some of the 'horror stories' I've read. A lot of folks have said to liberally lubricate the nylon gears with Lithium Grease (some even pack a load of grease inside the case), but I don't know how essential that would be. The original motor looked very clean and the gears did not appear to be worn down (probably has a lot to do with how 'rough' a person is in their riding style). This has encouraged me to think more seriously about making the swap myself - Thank You, Sir! :)
Both motors came out and went in smoothly, it was pretty easy. if i were to do it again, i would add some grease, good point i didn't think of that, but i'm not super hard on my motors, the original one did still look pretty good. i wouldn't hesitate to do another swap in the future, you could surely handle it :)
@@jasonlittle118 From what I've heard, the metal gears make considerably more noise than the nylon ones, but I've never seen a video demostrating the difference. If it wasn't *too* loud, it might be a really good idea, for longevity.
Great vid. I found it helpful to tap on top of T20 driver before apply torque to it. Insures bit is seated in dirty holes and may even help break it lose.
You adjust the derailleur with the two little screws in the derailleur the one screw goes for the chain to climb up on the gear the other screw goes for it to go down to the lower gear. Enjoy your video thank you
Excellent video. I really appreciate everything you have been posting. Good work! Ive owned my Rover Step-Thru since mid-March and just hit 1100 moles on it.
i realize that these are older, and possibly outdated, but i recently picked up a radrover stepthru 1 for $400 used on offerup and am in the process of upgrading everything. i love to tinker, love to upgrade on a budget for the challenge, and also love to make things unique and special to me. the radrover has been great so far, i bought the 35a controller and lcd screen from electro bike world, and am considering this motor upgrade next. thank you for your dilligence, testing, and experimenting, it helps inform me for my next step/purchase. keep up the awesome content! subscribed.
I have 2 radrovers both 2020 one step through I only bought them because of your videos there excellent early subscriber and watch everything you have and also buy things through your website thanks for everything SO YOU KNOW WHAT I NEED THE UPGRADE KIT!!
Like always great video , I’m like everyone here I’m waiting your test results... I ordered my Bolton kit almost 2 months ago after I saw your vid n did the same for the motor after this one , many many thx for all your good work , greetings from France
Bonsoir MSeb J ai eu mon velo rad power bike mardi passer puis je me suis apercu que c etait un 250 w alors que mon precedent de 2019 ete 750w ca ne va pas pour moi pour mettre un moteur 750 w pas trop compliquer et pas d autre piece a changer et ou l acheter merci de me conseiller salutation
@@christiandewaele937 oui c’est très facile, seulement quelques vis et ça se fait tout seul c’est les mêmes dimensions donc par d’inquiétude… mais je vous rappellerai seulement que c’est plus légal sur la route donc attention à vous :-)
I had a similar problem you had with my rad mini 4. It didn't want to shift into 6th gear. Always trying to jump out of gear. I found that adjusting the derailleur cable tension slightly corrected this perfectly. A small adjustment nut where cable meets derailleur. 3 or four clicks one way or the other should do it.
While removing the motors from the casing, remember not to touch the sides!! Taking a picture(s) before disassembly helps a ton. At least you didn't have any left parts like I usually do. :)
Hi there, I am from Vancouver Canada and have been following your channel for a little while. I was trying to buy a radrunner plus from Seattle and bring it back to Canada since the Canadian laws are stricter than u.s. and only allow 500 watt motor Max. Hence the local dealer near me only sells to 500 watt a 500 watt version. Then in one of your videos you mentioned that you suspected the US version is not a true 750w motor. Then it got me thinking that the same Factory is really only making one model and programming the controller differently for each country. Based on the images seen in your motor swap where you had the two Motors side by side it is clear that the stock motor that came with rad is not a true 750 w. Based on information from your videos I decided to buy the bike locally and to upgrade the motor and battery at a later date. Though I don't even have the bike yet I do enjoy watching all your videos. Somewhat related, I commute daily on a 2000 watt electric unicycle with a 1600 watt hour battery. Too bad they don't have the same size motor and battery kits for the rad :-)
Yeah Rad Power Bikes is a great company and the bike is so great that it makes you forget that your buying a 500watt motor being advertised as a 750watt motor. I have the Sondors MXS and its a true 750watt motor like the one your putting in. Great work on the video.
Bro so right. I had a mate X first turned out to be a bust. So many reviews online about how great rad is ANOTHER BUST. Got an ECOTRIC FAT tire with a 500w motor feels a lot more powerful for half the price. Even got the suspension fork from their site(still a great price). Don't trust these paid UA-cam reviews.
Two 1 gallon paint cans under handlebars is a good stand. Park freewheel tool for ebike designed to go over the plug/wire. Under $10. Case is built to use a torque driver to remove and install. Tough with a screwdriver. If the new motor is upgrad to stock, I would use it as it came and rebuild wheel spokes.
check your hanger for the derailleur. It is easy to bend. make sure it hangs straight. Bending it usually screws up one gear. It has a guard to keep it from bending. The guard should not touch it. After you bump it a few times it will touch, then any bump will bend the derailleur.
Thanks for the heads-up about the hanger. I just got a RadMini ST and I have one gear that messes up. The mechanic tried to fix it upon delivery, but it started again the next day. I might point him in that direction (or have a look myslef first).
Taking the rear wheel off and on gets MUCH easier. I can do it with my eyes closed now, but at first it was scarey hard b/c the assemblers at Juiced Bikes in China installed my rear wheel totally wrong, so my torque sensor wasn't even working.
could you elaborate ? I was considering this to on my stock radwagon 36T :) which cuts off at 30 kph "freewheeling" basically. How about steep hills with the 52t ?
52T. Chainring will give you better top speed, but the bike will not climb as well. It also may cause the motor to heat up. But yes you will definitely get a higher top speed.
Great video. The screws are called Torx security screws AKA star screws or bolts. I am certainly anxious to see the test results. But with the different freewheel especially since it didn’t have the lower first gear, I’m not sure how to take the results. Perhaps the speed results and resulting current draw may show something. Thx again. This video is really helpful.
when i do the speed tests i do them with the throttle only, so the different freewheel shouldn't affect anything there since i'm not pedaling. as for daily riding and the power/torque feeling when pedaling i suppose it could affect that. will be interesting to see what performance gains i get from these upgrades. glad you found the video helpful and thank you for watching and commenting. :)
Another great vid. Because of you I ordered myself a 2020 rad rover step thru, can't wait to get it, not until August their telling me. Oh well ,from what I see it'll be worth the wait. Thanks
I can tell you I have had mine a week now and its worth the wait . very easy to assemble out of the box . It took me all of an hour and it was good to go.
@@3eye-trick I really do love my custom Rad, whether it's what is advertised or not. Getting ready to buy some more power for the beast soon. Can't wait for better weather!
@@3eye-trick I generally don't get a chance to ride in the Winter months mainly because of lack of daylight. By the time daily responsibilities are over, it's too cold. Winter in the North-east is just not what I want to be riding in, unless we get an unusual warm/fair day, I can't enjoy it.
Thing-is about Rad is that you get a lot of bike for a low price but for another thousand dollars (& up) other bikes are everything the Rads aren't, bigger batteries, better brakes, more powerful motors and controllers... I just got one with a Bafang Ultra mid-drive motor, actually the most powerful motor available on a production bicycle and that's immediatly obvious when you ride it, another from the same company which I get in a couple of weeks is a Juiced Scrambler clone with a REAL Bafang 1,000 watt nominal hub motor, time will tell with that one but has a good reputation btw subscribed 🤗
I respect this man's courage. I don't think have a full casing across like means the after-market motor is any "bigger" inside. I, myself, very much trust the radmotorbikes guys. They have been excellent to work with. I have a Radwagon 4
WE USED TO ALSO BUT THEY DON'T ANSER MY EMAILS! WE HAVE HELPED THEM SELL A FEW DOZEN BIKES BY WORD OF MOUTH ! ANYWAY, WHAT DO YOU DO FOR EXTRA HILL CLIMBING POWER? MY WIFES LITTLE RAD MINI SOARS PAST ME ON THE HILLS! I CAN ONLY ASSUME HERS SPROCKET TEETH DIFFERENCE PROVIDES THE EXTRA TORQUE IN CLIMBING AS I SOAR PAST HERS COASTING ON THE FLAT!! I PUT THE HIGHER OUTPUT NEEDS IN MY CONTROLLER, JUST BOOSTED HERS A CPL MPH!! , THAT BEING SAID RAD POWER BIKE REGULAR DISC BRAKE SET UP IS KIND OF LAME AND CONSTANTLY IN NEED OF ADJUSTMENT, SO WE ARE UPDATING TO HYDRAULIC ON OUR REAR BRAKES FOR STARTERS ! **IN GOD WE TRUST**
Boy, this is really interesting! I want to find out if there's any performance difference. I'm glad you are doing this. If you could show us how to tune the derailleur, that I would love to know. Keep up the great work!
i will surely post performance results after i do some testing, need to make sure i have the setting programmed correctly for the new motor. we will see how it goes with the derailleur and if i can get it fine tuned.
@@dimitrimcintosh8858 if you find out, let me know. I’ve been thinking about upgrading my 750 watt hub motor to a 1000 watt hub motor, but I can’t even find any. Do 1000 watt hub motors even exist?
@@CitizenCycle925 it appears you upgraded your 500 watt motor to a 750 by their size. Did you have to change anything else or did you just drop a 750 watt motor into a 500 watt Bike and Go
Got my motor but took a month to arrive! Your old motor looks in good shape wasn’t able to see copper wires but looks good. They say these motors can take over volting and your motor is proof of that. Will take a look at mine when it comes out. Might do it myself watching you gave me confidence. Bolton Bikes still hasn’t sent the upgrade kit been almost 2 months now. Let me know if you ran 35 amps through your original motor or 30 amps or 25 amps. Thanks! Also you incorrectly identified the trailer as a trailer- it is a man cave (and no women allowed!). Now got something special to tell yah your gonna like this. I purchased the Juiced Bikes Hyper Scorpion that right...Hyper Scorpion! Probably wait six months to get it. Let me know about how much amperage you ran through Rads motor?
yes i didn't notice anything wrong with my stock motor. i'm glad the video might have inspired you to take on the swap yourself. my controller is from bolton and is 35 amps so that was what i was running thru the original motor and didn't have any issues. and its "mobile man cave" to be exact!! :) that Hyperscorpion looks like a BEAST of a bike. hope you get it quick, and post a vid on it!!
CitizenCycle Traveling man cave I want one! If I had had one of those I might have stayed married- man needs a place for himself. As to controller very good to hear. Others tell me this that or the other. Like they know because they know. Good to have you “showing us in real time”. That we can “see for ourselves” and contrast that to what we hear and read. Appreciated!
Nice job, I would have (shudder) used a drop of 'Locktite' on the screws when sealing the hub and to tighten the 'free-wheel', an old length of chain to use as a wrench. :) (I would bet that the 3rd gear set is bent somewhere along the circumference...
AW, YES, I SEE YOU'VE DONE YOUR BOLTON RESEARCH, GRASSHOPPER... GOOD FOR YOU, GREAT JOB...JUST GOT MY HIMIWAY STEP THRU... SEE YA DOWN THE ROAD, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK😜😆🤔😎😷
Watching this 3 year old video, laughing to myself when you said, I know nothing about this stuff (or something like that). Oh my, how things have changed!! I'm in the middle of completely rebuilding a Rover 5 I bought for $200, that died in Hurricane Ian almost 2 years ago. The only 2 salvageable parts are the frame and the rear wheel, the motor is done. I was just gonna use my original Rover motor I saved when I did my upgrade, but this video reminds me how wimpy it is. Gonna buy the real 750.
Derailer just needs to be adjusted via the barrel adjustment screw going into the it at the end of the cable. Simply flip it over, put it into third gear and rotate it until it's in line and not noisy.
Damn good idea, I did not know this was possible. I was going to do it the long way which is lacing a new motor onto old tire. To save time I am going to try your method. Thanks bud nice job 👍
I was going to buy a super 73 until i read all the horror stories about it on reddit. During research, i figured out that building these bikes is pretty easy. I found a scrambler style frame for sale and a 1000w 20 x 4 motor. I used to be a mechanic so i should be able to figure this all out
That stock motor looks like a 36 volt 350 watt model that's just being overvoltaged to 48 volts/750 watts but it still only has the torque of a 350 watter as compared to the real thing, many comments on Rad bikes not being very good with hills if at all, it does look very small...
Thanx A Bunch, my man! Confirmed smaller motor, that's why we steered clear of Rad. Nicely paced explanation and tutorial of the motor swap for a backyard hack like myself. 52 Volt battery and Bolton upgrade to the Bolton upgrade? Perhaps dual batteries? Dual motor? Where is your E-Bike sponsorship? This cost money and TIME, not only the Bike work but the video content and editing. Big Fan, Ride ON, my man!
yes smaller motor indeed! thank you for the kind words on the video :) will do the 52v battery next, then probably just enjoy the bike for a while before doing a bunch more. Yes the videos take some time and money and effort but the are fun to do as well. i haven't really pursued any sponsorship. nice being a free agent!!
@@CitizenCycle925 Free Agent hahaha What I know now, I would have gone Bolton. Love our Canadian Bikes, the customer service just was so horrible. Waiting on our warranties to expire, then will be following your upgrades.
I tried this with my rad plus six and it didn't work. The bolts were just ever so slightly different. No I did see someone on here that just kind of made it work and he said he put the bolts in on a little bit of an angle which I think is crazy as f*** but he did it and it worked. I ended up sending my motor back unfortunately. I'm patiently waiting for a thousand watt one of these days. I'm thinking I'm just going to buy the motor with the rim already set up. I do have a battery blender and a 10 amp hour battery coming so we'll see how that goes. I do have the 35 amp controller already. I'm a pretty big boy I'm too 70 and it pulls me around here just fine but we always want bigger stronger better don't we lol. Anyway I like your content and keep up the good work. Also if you have any suggestions about a thousand Watt where I can get one please let me know
Great Video Thank You for posting .I Love all your E Bike videos . I have a 2020 Rad Rover Step Thru 1 have as of today 183 miles on it ,mostly off road mountain trails loving everything about it .
Hi Billy, thanks for the kind words and support, glad you are liking my videos! Enjoy that bike, maybe someday in the future you will upgrade it too or post some ebike videos of your own, i dont have any offroad mountain videos on mine yet :)
Good information. More on the freewheel. I also have the 2018 RR. I thought I had a 11 tooth on the smallest freewheel gear, as I read on a forum. But counted just now to be a 14 tooth, like what you have and what was sent to you. I went to the RPB site and it shows a 11 tooth for the newer model. Must have changed it at some point. Maybe because I suggested they go with a larger chainring, ( increased mine to the 48T) and a smaller 11t on the rear freewheel. I don't care about the "megarange" gear because I never need to shift gears, I never go slow enough, not even on hills.
That's nice to be able to flip your bike upside down to take your tire off. I have two four stroke builds. You can't do that with a 4-stroke. Changing a tire on the side of the road is a nightmare.
What controller set up are you using? I am installing 750watt too (Bolton Bikes) upgrade kit. I hear 25 amps s the best pairing. Then I hear I could do 30amps but not 35. Please advise people talk but you have direct every day bike ride proof.
I used the 35A controller w/ colored display from Bolton Ebikes. It pairs very well with the 7true 750watt motor. I extensively watched his video on how to set the controller up and have zero issues with it. The stock battery does not last as long at full speed. But with the entire setup you will not need the full pedal assist. So I think it balanced out a bit. I am however going to add a Bolton 48v battery in parallel with the stock battery. When I do that I will post a video. I hope this helps. Anything else do not hesitate to ask. I’m still looking for the web site for the correct freewheel removal tool that will fit over the cable end. I do know that there are two companies out there including Rad Power Bikes that sell them.
I think it would have been easier to just swap the wheel and spokes over to the new hub if it all matched up which it probably did. Building a wheel is super easy especially the smaller wheels with short spokes.
Very helpful. Just swapping in my motor. I couldn't get the freewheel off even with the tool from Rad. As to what happens if the screw gets messed up I can tell you it's a world of pain. I've had to drill it out. Next step is to tap a new thread and go from there. Now back to it on a misty day in East Anglia UK.
Hmm, this motor doesn't have the upgraded grey gears the MAC motors have or had, can't seem to find the mac motors any more since em3ev went mid drive only. I'd be weary about hot rodding this with white gears...... Thanks for the video, nice to know what gears it's got 🙂
Well done man.. you did a very good job on that bike.. I'm looking at getting more power on my MTB-bike from the 250W Bafang hub motor but not sure if I should go for the 500W or the 750W.. if anyone can give me some info I would be grateful.🤫👍
I just ordered the 750 watt motor from electro bike work and noticed my motor isn’t as “beefy” as the one you installed. I looked on the website and it says “the newer model 750 is smaller with more copper wire for efficiency”. I’m not convinced the “new” 750 watt bafang motor is as good as the old one. You’re performance gains were very significant, especially in torque. The new motor didn’t increase my torque???
Pro tip, before you take any wheel off a multi speed rear wheel, put the bike in the highest gear( smallest gear on the hub). The derailer will line up easier and put less stress stress on the components. Just sayin.
Just saw your vid here. Ever think of a plumbers strap wrench or a strap wrench for oil filter changes? The plumber strap is a big bar with what looks like a length of bisycle chain on it.
I couldn't find a "results video". Did upgrading the motor improve the performance? In theory the bigger motor has more rotor windings and thus should provide more torque (assuming the controller can provide additional current). More torque should equal better acceleration.
Did you notice that the new upgrade 750watt motor is a little noisier than the stock motor? I did the swap and agree that it was very straight forward and easy. Everything works great and smoothly, however, the motor does sound louder. I do not know if it is because it is bigger and more powerful and normal, or what? I did a side by side comparison with a friends stock Radrover and there is a noticeable difference. Any comments? Thanks for the great videos.
I believe my crew dart v1 has a no name brand 750 watt rear motor i wonder if I can do this swap. I would like to know if the swap makes noticeable difference also
If you can do that you certainly can adjust the derailleur it’s just a couple of screws. Go to park tools on YT they have a great video for adjusting the derailleur.
Hi i purchased a 750 w tad rhino 3 yrs ago..before eu restriction law came in.../ so is that a 750w or 500w..rad sild it as 750w..also where did u get the new motor.? Thanks
I got my Rad 6 and the steering was hard sometime and with 45 miles on the Bike the head stem came loose , i open the head stem and looked and there was No Top Bearing in the sleeve at all and it was making powder out of the split racer made of aluminum . / Can't win the Lottery , i can get the first bike sent out without a bearing and had to fix some crap that happen when i had to get a ride home , / like the bike without the BS
Super easy to adjust gear there's one adjusting screw. Turn 1\4 turn increments in one direction to start with until gear doesnt jump anymore but if it gets worst turn back adjusting screw to original position and turn screw in other direction with 1\4 turn increments until it doesnt jump .If that doesnt fix it there's another problem . Also was the new freewheel first gear easier or harder to pedal because on a stock Rover first gear has 34 teeth the new first gear has how many teeth ?Thanks for the video
I'm looking forward to your report on how the two motors compare. I know that my Veego 750 ebike has a lot more "oomph" going up hills then my sister's comparable 750 Rad bike does. Question about your spoke covers - did those come with the bike or did you add them? If you did add them, did you have to remove or loosen the spokes to do so?
I added the spoke covers myself, bought them from amazon, they have a split down the middle so no need to remove or loosen spokes, you just wrap them around the spoke, is a little tricky and tedious but really changes the look of the wheels.
Hey Citizen Cycle - Did you ever get the third gear resolved and what was the issue? I'm still waiting on my controller and 750 watt motor from EBW and wanted to be prepared when it arrives.
I'm a bit confused. Why this change from a 750w to a new 750w motor? My 2020 RadCity3 now has over 600 miles on it. Wondering exactly what the reason is for this swap and more importantly, how many miles can I expect from my factory motor? I should note that I did the hack that upped my max speed to 25mph and in doing so, will that burn out my motor sooner. I'm very seldomly running faster than 20mph.
im just curious/..... you didnt show how the brake goes onto the rotor... mechanical brakes or hydraulic?? nice video bro.. im impressed since you didnt have bike knowledge.. i paid someone $110 to swap out a rear tire (including parts) on my lectric bike
i am fixing up my ebike too and boy oh boy the number of problems I had was crazy. in the end, you learn so much about what not to do. fixing ebikes is all about learning what not to do so next time you can do it faster
The rear wheel .. getting it back on .. been there for sure too .. each time it remains not a case of simply sliding it in there as many other vids show ... Like this video!
I'm surprised that it was that easy to get the original motor out, with some of the 'horror stories' I've read. A lot of folks have said to liberally lubricate the nylon gears with Lithium Grease (some even pack a load of grease inside the case), but I don't know how essential that would be. The original motor looked very clean and the gears did not appear to be worn down (probably has a lot to do with how 'rough' a person is in their riding style). This has encouraged me to think more seriously about making the swap myself - Thank You, Sir! :)
Both motors came out and went in smoothly, it was pretty easy. if i were to do it again, i would add some grease, good point i didn't think of that, but i'm not super hard on my motors, the original one did still look pretty good. i wouldn't hesitate to do another swap in the future, you could surely handle it :)
They do make metal gear upgrades for the motor. I have not tried them.
@@jasonlittle118 From what I've heard, the metal gears make considerably more noise than the nylon ones, but I've never seen a video demostrating the difference. If it wasn't *too* loud, it might be a really good idea, for longevity.
Charles Cox thanks for that info. Very interesting, I would have f never thought about the noise.
The megarange cog is for higher torque low speed, great for climbing steep hills.
Great vid. I found it helpful to tap on top of T20 driver before apply torque to it. Insures bit is seated in dirty holes and may even help break it lose.
You adjust the derailleur with the two little screws in the derailleur the one screw goes for the chain to climb up on the gear the other screw goes for it to go down to the lower gear.
Enjoy your video thank you
Excellent video. I really appreciate everything you have been posting. Good work! Ive owned my Rover Step-Thru since mid-March and just hit 1100 moles on it.
thank you Craig for the kind words, glad you are enjoying the content!! you are putting down some miles on that bike!!
That's a lot of moles! Are you OK after that horrible experience?
i realize that these are older, and possibly outdated, but i recently picked up a radrover stepthru 1 for $400 used on offerup and am in the process of upgrading everything. i love to tinker, love to upgrade on a budget for the challenge, and also love to make things unique and special to me. the radrover has been great so far, i bought the 35a controller and lcd screen from electro bike world, and am considering this motor upgrade next. thank you for your dilligence, testing, and experimenting, it helps inform me for my next step/purchase. keep up the awesome content! subscribed.
Thanks for this sub!! Little bit older video but the same motor upgrade should work for your bike as well 🙂 It really makes a big difference.
If there is one thing you are it is HONEST in your ability,well done sir.
When yu mount the bike, hold the rear brake and put pressure on the pedal to tighten your freewheel
Thanks, looking forward to seeing if the road test results are different.
Me too!
I have 2 radrovers both 2020 one step through I only bought them because of your videos there excellent early subscriber and watch everything you have and also buy things through your website thanks for everything SO YOU KNOW WHAT I NEED THE UPGRADE KIT!!
Like always great video , I’m like everyone here I’m waiting your test results... I ordered my Bolton kit almost 2 months ago after I saw your vid n did the same for the motor after this one , many many thx for all your good work , greetings from France
Greetings Seb!! good luck with all your upgrades!
Bonsoir MSeb J ai eu mon velo rad power bike mardi passer puis je me suis apercu que c etait un 250 w alors que mon precedent de 2019 ete 750w ca ne va pas pour moi pour mettre un moteur 750 w pas trop compliquer et pas d autre piece a changer et ou l acheter merci de me conseiller salutation
@@christiandewaele937 oui c’est très facile, seulement quelques vis et ça se fait tout seul c’est les mêmes dimensions donc par d’inquiétude… mais je vous rappellerai seulement que c’est plus légal sur la route donc attention à vous :-)
I had a similar problem you had with my rad mini 4. It didn't want to shift into 6th gear. Always trying to jump out of gear. I found that adjusting the derailleur cable tension slightly corrected this perfectly. A small adjustment nut where cable meets derailleur. 3 or four clicks one way or the other should do it.
oh!? is that why 6th and 7rth gear have no change?
While removing the motors from the casing, remember not to touch the sides!! Taking a picture(s) before disassembly helps a ton. At least you didn't have any left parts like I usually do. :)
And don’t practice while high!
Why not touch the sides of you don't mind me asking?
Hi there, I am from Vancouver Canada and have been following your channel for a little while.
I was trying to buy a radrunner plus from Seattle and bring it back to Canada since the Canadian laws are stricter than u.s. and only allow 500 watt motor Max. Hence the local dealer near me only sells to 500 watt a 500 watt version.
Then in one of your videos you mentioned that you suspected the US version is not a true 750w motor. Then it got me thinking that the same Factory is really only making one model and programming the controller differently for each country.
Based on the images seen in your motor swap where you had the two Motors side by side it is clear that the stock motor that came with rad is not a true 750 w.
Based on information from your videos I decided to buy the bike locally and to upgrade the motor and battery at a later date.
Though I don't even have the bike yet I do enjoy watching all your videos.
Somewhat related, I commute daily on a 2000 watt electric unicycle with a 1600 watt hour battery. Too bad they don't have the same size motor and battery kits for the rad :-)
Did you get the bike??
If so how are your liking it.
Im in Vancouver also and thinking about getting this bike.
Yeah Rad Power Bikes is a great company and the bike is so great that it makes you forget that your buying a 500watt motor being advertised as a 750watt motor. I have the Sondors MXS and its a true 750watt motor like the one your putting in. Great work on the video.
Bro so right. I had a mate X first turned out to be a bust. So many reviews online about how great rad is ANOTHER BUST. Got an ECOTRIC FAT tire with a 500w motor feels a lot more powerful for half the price. Even got the suspension fork from their site(still a great price). Don't trust these paid UA-cam reviews.
Two 1 gallon paint cans under handlebars is a good stand. Park freewheel tool for ebike designed to go over the plug/wire. Under $10. Case is built to use a torque driver to remove and install. Tough with a screwdriver. If the new motor is upgrad to stock, I would use it as it came and rebuild wheel spokes.
Thank You for pointing me to Electro bike world !!
Bafang 750 Watt FreeWheel Removal Tool, Bolton Ebikes has a tool that fits over the electrical plug to remove/install a cassette on an ebike.
Can’t see myself doing this, but great job and completely fascinating 🙏
check your hanger for the derailleur. It is easy to bend. make sure it hangs straight. Bending it usually screws up one gear. It has a guard to keep it from bending. The guard should not touch it. After you bump it a few times it will touch, then any bump will bend the derailleur.
will check this, thank you!
Thanks for the heads-up about the hanger. I just got a RadMini ST and I have one gear that messes up. The mechanic tried to fix it upon delivery, but it started again the next day. I might point him in that direction (or have a look myslef first).
I don’t have an e-bike but the videos you provide are making me want one! I think the Cyrusher XF900.
Taking the rear wheel off and on gets MUCH easier. I can do it with my eyes closed now, but at first it was scarey hard b/c the assemblers at Juiced Bikes in China installed my rear wheel totally wrong, so my torque sensor wasn't even working.
I like the videos you post. Hoping to get a Rad4 in the near future. Look forward to seeing your next video. Take care.
Moving to a 52T Chainring is a HUGE performance upgrade.
You will not find anything better for the cost.
could you elaborate ? I was considering this to on my stock radwagon 36T :) which cuts off at 30 kph "freewheeling" basically. How about steep hills with the 52t ?
@@Ematuresco
stock radwagon 46T?
52t should still be fine for the heavy radwagon
52T. Chainring will give you better top speed, but the bike will not climb as well. It also may cause the motor to heat up. But yes you will definitely get a higher top speed.
Great video. The screws are called Torx security screws AKA star screws or bolts. I am certainly anxious to see the test results. But with the different freewheel especially since it didn’t have the lower first gear, I’m not sure how to take the results. Perhaps the speed results and resulting current draw may show something. Thx again. This video is really helpful.
when i do the speed tests i do them with the throttle only, so the different freewheel shouldn't affect anything there since i'm not pedaling. as for daily riding and the power/torque feeling when pedaling i suppose it could affect that. will be interesting to see what performance gains i get from these upgrades. glad you found the video helpful and thank you for watching and commenting. :)
Another great vid. Because of you I ordered myself a 2020 rad rover step thru, can't wait to get it, not until August their telling me. Oh well ,from what I see it'll be worth the wait. Thanks
I can tell you I have had mine a week now and its worth the wait . very easy to assemble out of the box . It took me all of an hour and it was good to go.
well i wish you a speedy delivery! I think you're going to have a blast on it.
So, "in a nutshell".....We were lied to. Nice!!
True Wattage from my understanding is contentious nonstop wattage draw without overheating . That is not peak wattage .
you get what you paid for.
@@3eye-trick I really do love my custom Rad, whether it's what is advertised or not. Getting ready to buy some more power for the beast soon. Can't wait for better weather!
@@3eye-trick I generally don't get a chance to ride in the Winter months mainly because of lack of daylight. By the time daily responsibilities are over, it's too cold. Winter in the North-east is just not what I want to be riding in, unless we get an unusual warm/fair day, I can't enjoy it.
It is the motor controller that boosts it to almost 750 watts
Thing-is about Rad is that you get a lot of bike for a low price but for another thousand dollars (& up) other bikes are everything the Rads aren't, bigger batteries, better brakes, more powerful motors and controllers... I just got one with a Bafang Ultra mid-drive motor, actually the most powerful motor available on a production bicycle and that's immediatly obvious when you ride it, another from the same company which I get in a couple of weeks is a Juiced Scrambler clone with a REAL Bafang 1,000 watt nominal hub motor, time will tell with that one but has a good reputation btw subscribed 🤗
Cool, seems I can maybe change the motor inside my case as well. Without the need of taking out spokes. Thanks for the video.
I respect this man's courage. I don't think have a full casing across like means the after-market motor is any "bigger" inside. I, myself, very much trust the radmotorbikes guys. They have been excellent to work with. I have a Radwagon 4
WE USED TO ALSO BUT THEY DON'T ANSER MY EMAILS! WE HAVE HELPED THEM SELL A FEW DOZEN BIKES BY WORD OF MOUTH ! ANYWAY, WHAT DO YOU DO FOR EXTRA HILL CLIMBING POWER? MY WIFES LITTLE RAD MINI SOARS PAST ME ON THE HILLS! I CAN ONLY ASSUME HERS SPROCKET TEETH DIFFERENCE PROVIDES THE EXTRA TORQUE IN CLIMBING AS I SOAR PAST HERS COASTING ON THE FLAT!! I PUT THE HIGHER OUTPUT NEEDS IN MY CONTROLLER, JUST BOOSTED HERS A CPL MPH!! , THAT BEING SAID RAD POWER BIKE REGULAR DISC BRAKE SET UP IS KIND OF LAME AND CONSTANTLY IN NEED OF ADJUSTMENT, SO WE ARE UPDATING TO HYDRAULIC ON OUR REAR BRAKES FOR STARTERS ! **IN GOD WE TRUST**
Boy, this is really interesting! I want to find out if there's any performance difference. I'm glad you are doing this. If you could show us how to tune the derailleur, that I would love to know. Keep up the great work!
i will surely post performance results after i do some testing, need to make sure i have the setting programmed correctly for the new motor. we will see how it goes with the derailleur and if i can get it fine tuned.
@@CitizenCycle925 do u think I can get 1,000w gear motor for my himiway?
@@dimitrimcintosh8858 if you find out, let me know. I’ve been thinking about upgrading my 750 watt hub motor to a 1000 watt hub motor, but I can’t even find any. Do 1000 watt hub motors even exist?
@@CitizenCycle925 it appears you upgraded your 500 watt motor to a 750 by their size. Did you have to change anything else or did you just drop a 750 watt motor into a 500 watt Bike and Go
@@RandallBalls I also changed the display and the controller
Very informative. Looking to upgrade mine and i haven't even got it yet
haha, give it a while before you upgrade!!!
Got my motor but took a month to arrive! Your old motor looks in good shape wasn’t able to see copper wires but looks good. They say these motors can take over volting and your motor is proof of that. Will take a look at mine when it comes out. Might do it myself watching you gave me confidence. Bolton Bikes still hasn’t sent the upgrade kit been almost 2 months now. Let me know if you ran 35 amps through your original motor or 30 amps or 25 amps. Thanks! Also you incorrectly identified the trailer as a trailer- it is a man cave (and no women allowed!). Now got something special to tell yah your gonna like this. I purchased the Juiced Bikes Hyper Scorpion that right...Hyper Scorpion! Probably wait six months to get it. Let me know about how much amperage you ran through Rads motor?
yes i didn't notice anything wrong with my stock motor. i'm glad the video might have inspired you to take on the swap yourself. my controller is from bolton and is 35 amps so that was what i was running thru the original motor and didn't have any issues. and its "mobile man cave" to be exact!! :) that Hyperscorpion looks like a BEAST of a bike. hope you get it quick, and post a vid on it!!
CitizenCycle Traveling man cave I want one! If I had had one of those I might have stayed married- man needs a place for himself. As to controller very good to hear. Others tell me this that or the other. Like they know because they know. Good to have you “showing us in real time”. That we can “see for ourselves” and contrast that to what we hear and read. Appreciated!
Nice job, I would have (shudder) used a drop of 'Locktite' on the screws when sealing the hub and to tighten the 'free-wheel', an old length of chain to use as a wrench. :) (I would bet that the 3rd gear set is bent somewhere along the circumference...
AW, YES, I SEE YOU'VE DONE YOUR BOLTON RESEARCH, GRASSHOPPER...
GOOD FOR YOU, GREAT JOB...JUST GOT MY HIMIWAY STEP THRU...
SEE YA DOWN THE ROAD, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK😜😆🤔😎😷
Watching this 3 year old video, laughing to myself when you said, I know nothing about this stuff (or something like that). Oh my, how things have changed!! I'm in the middle of completely rebuilding a Rover 5 I bought for $200, that died in Hurricane Ian almost 2 years ago. The only 2 salvageable parts are the frame and the rear wheel, the motor is done. I was just gonna use my original Rover motor I saved when I did my upgrade, but this video reminds me how wimpy it is. Gonna buy the real 750.
Derailer just needs to be adjusted via the barrel adjustment screw going into the it at the end of the cable. Simply flip it over, put it into third gear and rotate it until it's in line and not noisy.
thanks, that is same thing the videos i have been watching have said so hopefully the fix is that easy!!!!
You are a funny guy. Yes, North Carolina. Hot and humid. I used to live in Hendersonville.
Excellent. Thx. Gonna swap out my wife’s Baggi bike 500w for the 750
Damn good idea, I did not know this was possible. I was going to do it the long way which is lacing a new motor onto old tire. To save time I am going to try your method. Thanks bud nice job 👍
BRAVO! Love the videos, love the quality and editing. Content is great.
you're too kind!! :) i'm trying to put out some useful content that might also inspire some folks.
I was going to buy a super 73 until i read all the horror stories about it on reddit. During research, i figured out that building these bikes is pretty easy. I found a scrambler style frame for sale and a 1000w 20 x 4 motor. I used to be a mechanic so i should be able to figure this all out
Good for you!!! and good luck!
I needed this video as I’m about to follow your footsteps and install this upgrade in my 2020 Radcity 👍
I think the rad city's have a direct drive motor don't they..??? this swap wouldn't work.
@@CitizenCycle925 hmmm you are correct. Direct drive. I emailed electro bike world for clarification. 👍👍
That stock motor looks like a 36 volt 350 watt model that's just being overvoltaged to 48 volts/750 watts but it still only has the torque of a 350 watter as compared to the real thing, many comments on Rad bikes not being very good with hills if at all, it does look very small...
Great video! I respect you’re courage doing something like that!
Thank you for the video, well done, let us know if you get the same or more range with the new motor.
Top tip regarding the axle cutout thanks. Time saver.
Thanx A Bunch, my man! Confirmed smaller motor,
that's why we steered clear of Rad. Nicely paced explanation and tutorial of the motor swap for a backyard hack like myself.
52 Volt battery and Bolton upgrade to the Bolton upgrade?
Perhaps dual batteries? Dual motor? Where is your E-Bike
sponsorship? This cost money and TIME, not only the Bike work but the video content and editing. Big Fan, Ride ON, my man!
yes smaller motor indeed! thank you for the kind words on the video :) will do the 52v battery next, then probably just enjoy the bike for a while before doing a bunch more. Yes the videos take some time and money and effort but the are fun to do as well. i haven't really pursued any sponsorship. nice being a free agent!!
what bike did you end up buying. i ordered my rover 5 and am still in the market for a better option need some help
@@CitizenCycle925 Free Agent hahaha What I know now, I would have gone Bolton. Love our Canadian Bikes, the customer service just was so horrible. Waiting on our warranties to expire, then will be following your upgrades.
@@velox_vx We went with a Canadian Bike. Almost zero customer service, Won't recommend. Look up Bolton E-bikes, cancel that 500Watt Pretender.
Nice job. On this vid, the angle of the front fork seams a bit bended back compared to the angle of the frame
probably result of trying to use camera in a small space.(my trailer) nothing is bent :)
My bet would be on the New Bafang motor , not the stock rad would like to hear what you think of them compared to each other .
I tried this with my rad plus six and it didn't work. The bolts were just ever so slightly different. No I did see someone on here that just kind of made it work and he said he put the bolts in on a little bit of an angle which I think is crazy as f*** but he did it and it worked. I ended up sending my motor back unfortunately. I'm patiently waiting for a thousand watt one of these days. I'm thinking I'm just going to buy the motor with the rim already set up. I do have a battery blender and a 10 amp hour battery coming so we'll see how that goes. I do have the 35 amp controller already. I'm a pretty big boy I'm too 70 and it pulls me around here just fine but we always want bigger stronger better don't we lol. Anyway I like your content and keep up the good work. Also if you have any suggestions about a thousand Watt where I can get one please let me know
Great Video Thank You for posting .I Love all your E Bike videos .
I have a 2020 Rad Rover Step Thru 1 have as of today 183 miles on it ,mostly off road mountain trails loving everything about it .
Hi Billy, thanks for the kind words and support, glad you are liking my videos! Enjoy that bike, maybe someday in the future you will upgrade it too or post some ebike videos of your own, i dont have any offroad mountain videos on mine yet :)
Great video mate, I have the big tyre mud bike version E-Bike using your video was able to change motor quite easily.
Good information. More on the freewheel. I also have the 2018 RR. I thought I had a 11 tooth on the smallest freewheel gear, as I read on a forum. But counted just now to be a 14 tooth, like what you have and what was sent to you. I went to the RPB site and it shows a 11 tooth for the newer model. Must have changed it at some point. Maybe because I suggested they go with a larger chainring, ( increased mine to the 48T) and a smaller 11t on the rear freewheel. I don't care about the "megarange" gear because I never need to shift gears, I never go slow enough, not even on hills.
The technical name for those special bits is, "Security Torx",
T bit
That's nice to be able to flip your bike upside down to take your tire off. I have two four stroke builds. You can't do that with a 4-stroke. Changing a tire on the side of the road is a nightmare.
very true
Dude, you will notice a big difference from the get go. As long as your controller is set up correctly. Well worth it, now go ride!
yes i need to do my research on the correct settings for gear reduction ratio, etc.
What controller set up are you using? I am installing 750watt too (Bolton Bikes) upgrade kit. I hear 25 amps s the best pairing. Then I hear I could do 30amps but not 35. Please advise people talk but you have direct every day bike ride proof.
I used the 35A controller w/ colored display from Bolton Ebikes. It pairs very well with the 7true 750watt motor. I extensively watched his video on how to set the controller up and have zero issues with it. The stock battery does not last as long at full speed. But with the entire setup you will not need the full pedal assist. So I think it balanced out a bit. I am however going to add a Bolton 48v battery in parallel with the stock battery. When I do that I will post a video. I hope this helps. Anything else do not hesitate to ask. I’m still looking for the web site for the correct freewheel removal tool that will fit over the cable end. I do know that there are two companies out there including Rad Power Bikes that sell them.
What I'm anxious to see is whether or not the motor will overheat in very long, steep hills.
I think it would have been easier to just swap the wheel and spokes over to the new hub if it all matched up which it probably did. Building a wheel is super easy especially the smaller wheels with short spokes.
Very helpful. Just swapping in my motor. I couldn't get the freewheel off even with the tool from Rad. As to what happens if the screw gets messed up I can tell you it's a world of pain. I've had to drill it out. Next step is to tap a new thread and go from there. Now back to it on a misty day in East Anglia UK.
Great Instructional Video!
Hmm, this motor doesn't have the upgraded grey gears the MAC motors have or had, can't seem to find the mac motors any more since em3ev went mid drive only.
I'd be weary about hot rodding this with white gears......
Thanks for the video, nice to know what gears it's got 🙂
Welcome to the 750 club, CC Rider
Well done man.. you did a very good job on that bike.. I'm looking at getting more power on my MTB-bike from the 250W Bafang hub motor but not sure if I should go for the 500W or the 750W.. if anyone can give me some info I would be grateful.🤫👍
I just ordered the 750 watt motor from electro bike work and noticed my motor isn’t as “beefy” as the one you installed. I looked on the website and it says “the newer model 750 is smaller with more copper wire for efficiency”. I’m not convinced the “new” 750 watt bafang motor is as good as the old one. You’re performance gains were very significant, especially in torque. The new motor didn’t increase my torque???
Pro tip, before you take any wheel off a multi speed rear wheel, put the bike in the highest gear( smallest gear on the hub).
The derailer will line up easier and put less stress stress on the components. Just sayin.
The gear inside my old one stripped so I just got the new one today... new project
I love your trailer dude
Just saw your vid here. Ever think of a plumbers strap wrench or a strap wrench for oil filter changes? The plumber strap is a big bar with what looks like a length of bisycle chain on it.
Well thank you that was quite enlightening not that complicated as I thought it would be really
glad you enjoyed, it really wasn't bad.
@@CitizenCycle925 my bike should be here tomorrow or maybe today I am so psyched
Great job as always. Will def reference this when my time comes to upgrade
I was wondering how the hell you were supposed to swap motors, taking the casing off makes sense now lol
I couldn't find a "results video". Did upgrading the motor improve the performance?
In theory the bigger motor has more rotor windings and thus should provide more torque (assuming the controller can provide additional current). More torque should equal better acceleration.
Thnx 4 charing!
Brave guy. Good work.
never learn until you try right... thanks for watching and commenting :)
Well done. Thanks for another great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Did you notice that the new upgrade 750watt motor is a little noisier than the stock motor? I did the swap and agree that it was very straight forward and easy. Everything works great and smoothly, however, the motor does sound louder. I do not know if it is because it is bigger and more powerful and normal, or what? I did a side by side comparison with a friends stock Radrover and there is a noticeable difference. Any comments? Thanks for the great videos.
I believe my crew dart v1 has a no name brand 750 watt rear motor i wonder if I can do this swap. I would like to know if the swap makes noticeable difference also
Awesome! Thanks for posting, I was waiting for you to do this install. One question, did you lube/grease the gears before putting back in?
i did not add any additional grease, but you are right i probably should have just to make sure it continues to run smoothly.
If you can do that you certainly can adjust the derailleur it’s just a couple of screws. Go to park tools on YT they have a great video for adjusting the derailleur.
You should have swapped out the phase wires with larger silver mil spec ptfe coated 14ga wire. I run 72v with no problem.
Hi i purchased a 750 w tad rhino 3 yrs ago..before eu restriction law came in.../ so is that a 750w or 500w..rad sild it as 750w..also where did u get the new motor.? Thanks
Fixing to do this on my Super 73 z1 just waiting on my new controller and battery
Excellent. Thx for upgrading. Curious to see the power results.
You and me both!
Do you know if The Himiway can be upgraded to a 1000W motor?
I got my Rad 6 and the steering was hard sometime and with 45 miles on the Bike the head stem came loose , i open the head stem and looked and there was No Top Bearing in the sleeve at all and it was making powder out of the split racer made of aluminum . / Can't win the Lottery , i can get the first bike sent out without a bearing and had to fix some crap that happen when i had to get a ride home , / like the bike without the BS
awesome video man im trying to upgrade my 500 watt bafang motor to a better one can i just get a 750 and plug it in >?
Need reviews on the new Himiwsy bikes!!! Zebra, Cobra,etc!!!
Any problems with that new motor since the install? The video is 4 years old. Prob have to do it.
Super easy to adjust gear there's one adjusting screw. Turn 1\4 turn increments in one direction to start with until gear doesnt jump anymore but if it gets worst turn back adjusting screw to original position and turn screw in other direction with 1\4 turn increments until it doesnt jump .If that doesnt fix it there's another problem . Also was the new freewheel first gear easier or harder to pedal because on a stock Rover first gear has 34 teeth the new first gear has how many teeth ?Thanks for the video
I'm looking forward to your report on how the two motors compare. I know that my Veego 750 ebike has a lot more "oomph" going up hills then my sister's comparable 750 Rad bike does. Question about your spoke covers - did those come with the bike or did you add them? If you did add them, did you have to remove or loosen the spokes to do so?
I added the spoke covers myself, bought them from amazon, they have a split down the middle so no need to remove or loosen spokes, you just wrap them around the spoke, is a little tricky and tedious but really changes the look of the wheels.
@@CitizenCycle925 Thanks for the reply. They look really nice. I am pretty sure that I am going to do the same.
Nice love the bike but why two watches?
Hey Citizen Cycle - Did you ever get the third gear resolved and what was the issue? I'm still waiting on my controller and 750 watt motor from EBW and wanted to be prepared when it arrives.
Resolved, derailleur just needed adjustment. Shifts perfect now
I'm a bit confused. Why this change from a 750w to a new 750w motor? My 2020 RadCity3 now has over 600 miles on it. Wondering exactly what the reason is for this swap and more importantly, how many miles can I expect from my factory motor? I should note that I did the hack that upped my max speed to 25mph and in doing so, will that burn out my motor sooner. I'm very seldomly running faster than 20mph.
Brilliant vid, how long would you say the process took overall, an hour or so?
took be about 1.5 hours. i was definitely taking my time so i didn't mess up.
Citizen how many miles were on the bike at this point? And did you see any grease in that stock rad motor?
The newest Bafang 750w looks a lot more like the stock Rad 750w.
im just curious/..... you didnt show how the brake goes onto the rotor... mechanical brakes or hydraulic?? nice video bro.. im impressed since you didnt have bike knowledge.. i paid someone $110 to swap out a rear tire (including parts) on my lectric bike
Good video , many thanks !!