Cassie Jaye: "It was kind of a suicide mission..." to release The Red Pill (documentary)
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- This is a short extract from an interview I did recently with Rebel Wisdom in London, about the reaction to the Red Pill Movie and the journey I went on while making it.
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Cassie is A REAL JOURNALIST. Going to people with whom you disagree with and hearing and reporting THEIR point of view.
T- 800 bruh we out here killing humans you on here chatting... skynet is pissed
Not many people are as level headed as she is.
Totally. A pity how rare the true open-mindedness, curiosity and bravery are. Cassie is very inspirational in those regards. Another great person would be Daryl Davis, although he's not a journalist.
Cassie Jaye, what a surprising and refreshing sunbeam coming out of tribal gender darkness, having the courage to confront her mind with a hurting truth and embracing facts in favor of being a lying sheep. That's character Cassie! You've lost some of your willingly blind non friends, but you won respect, from others and from me. who starts to believe in humans a bit more, cause of your bravery Cassie!
I've been a journalist for over fifty years -- and journalists are a combination in restraint of trade. If you don't subscribe to the leftist orthodoxies, you will never find a job. If you do, you won't be able to keep it.
I watched it 4 years ago. It helped me to purge the feminist indoctrination I grew up with and reject modernity. I can proudly say that I have found God, am traditional, and am well on my way to starting a family.
The Red Pill documentary saved my soul. I am eternally grateful.
In these post-world, human connections are deteriorated. Happy you changed for the better, spread your ideas ;)
It is not necessary to find God to reject feminism
Wow, woman actress drops out of Hollywood because she hates the personal ethical compromises, strikes out on own to become content creater and becomes hero to millions because of her creativity, insight and compassion. Then gets torn down. Yet the women who played ball are heroes. Would the real feminists please stand up?
I respect the hell out the real Equality Feminists but all those two-faced Entitlement Feminists are going to be the end of Feminism! They should never have commercialized it - its image has been ruined!
No, the woman who stepped out of the Hollywood corruption and made a journalistic masterpiece with solid ethics....is attacked by feminists in Australia who try and have her visa revoked and accuse her of hate speech. Irony of irony.
So much bro.
Scott U leftist socialist & the feminist will never let the truth get in the way of their agenda
John Schmidt No such thing as "real feminists". There are only "feminists" who seek to control how people act & what they think. Human rights advocates on the other hand represent men & women.
One can hope that other filmmakers will follow your lead.
Only if they are willing, as Cassie Jay was, to commit career suicide.
frepi Risking a career to tell the truth (or to state a difference of opinion) and to be prepared to own the consequences takes a lot of courage.
Why should we allow the voices of such misogynists to be heard. Their hatred of women is palpable
One can hope that other feminists will follow her lead.
It's obvious that you've never seen the video, or had a discussion with an actual Men's Rights Advocate. Unless of course you were trying to parody the typical feminist commentator, to which I would have to say you did a good job. You sound just like the leftists media people who decried this film as hateful of women and sexist without having even watched it.
Criticize Cassie Jay for not being confrontational in the film, that's fine. But the film itself is nowhere near what it is accused of being, again by people who have never even seen it. What she did is actually rare, she showed both sides of the argument. Interviewed both "sides" if the gender divide and left it up to people to come to their own conclusions.
She chose not to go the Michael Moore route, using sensationalism and theatrics to push a specific view point. Often times misrepresenting facts, or playing events out of order to push that view point and mislead people.
That shows a ton of honesty to say that being a feminist, you probably wouldn't have watched the film if you hadn't made it. It's amazing (and scary) how effective it is when the main stream media unjustly smears people.
Support independant media!
Cassie Jaye, what a surprising and refreshing sunbeam coming out of tribal gender darkness, having the courage to confront her mind with a hurting truth and embracing facts in favor of being a lying sheep. That's character Cassie! You've lost some of your willingly blind non friends, but you won respect, from others and from me. who starts to believe in humans a bit more, cause of your bravery Cassie!
Way to delegitimize the anti feminist movement, harry. -.-
Good job. Thanks a lot!
to be honest i was caught up with so many of these things too, they are all over the media.. you had obama spwe out whie presisdent, on the worst hoaxs in our centires, 70 dollars on t he cent (you can look it up). We have no way of controlling and processing everything around you... and they bobard you with it
Stop trying to make Jews the evil of the world. Your messing up the true message of this woman's work. So conspiracy theory-ish.
It's so crazy that rights "activists" are so against men's rights activism.
@llriv exactly! They're weird! I asked one (sjw); I see you standing with blm when a black man is shot but when a man is assaulted, its his fault?!
That doesn't sound like social justice to me. Why is that?
*crickets*
llriv It is a zero-sum game, not about rights but rather about what those rights represent, which is societal resources.
@llriv Resources are finite but growing hence the population would grow along side.
More rights require access to more resources. For instance, running a women's shelter requires resources. Running a men's shelter would also require resources. So I don't get where they can access the same resource comes from. They will both require access to their own resources.
@@sha0tube
...and they BOTH should have an equal right to those resources.
It was sad watching those abused men basically shunned with nowhere to go having been taken for everything they had while their wives just moved on after a swift accusation. Stunning how little we care for Fathers
Cassie Jaye is a true heroine of gender dialogue and helping them get together.
I don't think MGTOW and understanding the importance of fathers being present are mutually exclusive. MGTOW simply don't want to get married, which means they won't have kids either, making the irreconcilable part of the situation irrelevant. I can totally empathize with men who think having kids with the wrong woman is worse than not having kids at all. After all, why have them if they are going to be ripped away from you, and brainwashed to hate you and to only think of you as an ATM? Seriously! Relationships between men and women will continue to deteriorate in terms of lack of marriage until divorce laws are fixed so that the risks to either gender are not too horrible to take. Is that too much to ask?
A true hero*
exactly.
Cassie, consider this, those men ,many of them who had absolutely no reason to trust women left, were still willing to talk to you.
It takes a strong character to do that, and an equally strong one to admit your views were wrong.
Stick with it, keep telling your stories, the darkness of ignorance can only win if good people let the light go out.
Cassie should have been the face for the Nike "risk everything" campaign. It's not like athletes are the majority to wear their gear anyway.
You are honestly one of the most inspiring people to me. I’m really happy that instead of shutting down other people, you actually gave the MRA movement a chance, and listened to what they were saying. Stay strong, even if the majority of people think you’re wrong, for taking this path, you will always be a big inspiration to not only me, but to other people who follow this movement. Thanks for giving this movement a chance, and giving it the publicity it deserves, hope you keep making movies that have as big an impact as this one.
the majority don't think she was wrong, only the the majority of the vocal political feminist movement, which is a fraction of the population.
John Douglas you have a point, but when I said majority, I just meant if the majority of people turned against her for her conversion to still say strong. Yeah they are only a fraction of people, but their ideas are spreading, and that’s also what I mean for majority, if they become the majority, keep shining the light in the dark. I hope that makes sense.
I think I understand, sunlight is the best disinfectant. these ideas and ideologies need to be shown for what they are.
which thankfully, there is a growing support for people and youtubers who are doing just that.
they all get called far right wing, alt right, sexist, racist, homophobic and all the other buzz words used to try to intimidate and shut down opposing views or, simply logic and reason. and universities seem to be the breeding grounds for it.
John Douglas yeah, it’s sad to see people who do fight and believe these ideas are shut down, and it’s even sadder to see that people, especially colleges, are ok with that.
Recently saw this on amazon, so eye opening. It just stuck with me. Needs to be shown in all high schools to boys and girls.
Unfortunately it won't Anne, whether we know it or not we live in an increasingly feminised society in the west and it all starts with indoctrinating the young. The bureaucracies are dominated by women and feminists doctrine, ditto the media and academia all spouting gender inequality and the guise of a ruling patriarchy. There may well be male figure heads in our institutIons but most are severely emasculated and held up as proof of male dominance. The result of all this. Fractured families and children, most particularly boys, without sound moral and ethical learning. That is all outsourced to the state who feed whatever rubbish is current in popular thinking into impressionable young minds.
The trouble with women now is they do not value what it is to be truly feminine and seek entry into men's ways and male culture, probably because it appears more glamorous and liberating. And when they do they claim how toxic that culture is as it doesn't fit the "niceness" of feminine ways. And ultimately that's the nature of male business, getting down and getting dirty to make things happen.
Of course much had to be addresssed for women pre feminism but feminism is out of control and has always been a tool of social engineering. Yet another nail in the coffin of individual liberty.
Simon Brownbridge I agree, women seem obsessed with being men (or their perception of what men are), rather than appreciate that there are differences between men and women, and that’s okay.
One area it seems is this very lax attitude with sleeping around. Maybe social media and tinder etc has exacerbated this, but I think of these women...are you really happier having 15, 20, 25+ etc sexual partners? I’m not saying women need to be virgins til marriage....but shouldn’t sex be reserved for guys your in a relationship with...not some guy you go out with one time on tinder. Let’s just call it what it is, prostitution. Women claim this empowers them to have sex like a man can, no emotion, just pleasure....but men and women are wired differently and I don’t believe that it is good for their psyche.
I agree there were some injustices pre feminism that had to be addressed (domestic violence being a “family matter” where cops and courts would not intervene, etc), but it is so far beyond that now....feminist are insane. I think they are just a man hating group now. And your right, the boys who will one day be men are suffering. And I feel like feminist are getting a sick pleasure out of men and boys suffering...like, how do you like it???? It’s very childish. Past injustices against women is no excuse for the current injustices against men. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Awareness and becoming more vocal than the feminist is the key. I think that is the only way to push back against them. Which is why I think showing people this movie is a good start.
I never really gave much thought to feminism honestly. Really wasn’t on my radar. But since seeing this movie recently I have been trying to learn more... and a lot of those mgtow sites come up. Some guys just seem to hate women...they refuse to even consider not all women are the enemy, and I figure they are just the male version of the crazed feminist, so I get that. But what is so disturbing is when men open up about their divorces, never getting to see their kids, getting thrown in jail for being behind on child support. It’s heartbreaking. How is this happening?! These archaic family court laws have to change. I don’t blame men for walking away.
Like Cassie, I do think marriage is still the best system if children are involved, but these men don’t even want to have kids because the system is so rigged against them. And who can blame them?
Rational women and the men have to fight back, I am truly concerned about the path we’re on...what is the ultimate goal for the feminist? They don’t want equality, they want superiority.
@@anneb889 You are spot on with the being hot sex culture. It coarsens and degrades women so that even their facial features take on a hardened look. It is like the coarse aspect of masculinity engraved on a female face. This is not God's work, the soul has been sold cheaply.
In fact we as divine beings incorporate both the masculine and feminine. My exteroir is male, my soul feminine. You the reverse. When you understand that there is no place for feminism or women hating.
Keep up your strong thoughts, it is the weak minded who follow the herd mind.
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Elite, billionaire Jeωs donate money to the campaign funds of politicians. USA congressmen and congresswomen must sign an allegiance to Israel and follow instructions from elite Jeωs, or the campaign funds are given to their opposition. Every president that is elected has the backing of elite Jeωs. Presidential advisors are Jeωs who issue instructions, not just advice.
Simply search for keywords and *Brother Nathanael* to see videos on the topic.
For example, search (DuckDuckGo is best, Google is owned and controlled by elite Jeωs) for, *Brother Nathanael 911,* to get the truth about Jewish involvement in 911. The videos that result in this example, show the MOSSAD's involvement in the setting up of controlled demolitions to destroy the World Trade Center buildings 1, 2 and 7.
For confirmation of 911, see the video, *Christopher Bollyn Explains Who REALLY Did 9_11.*
I mention 911 specifically to demonstrate the power of elite, Zionist Jeωs as a collective.
@@anneb889 Well said. It really comes down to being a healthy, decent human being. By healthy I'm not just talking physical health but mental, emotional and social health as well. A lot of us are emotionally challenged from our family of origin. If we don't work on these issues it will affect our lives, including relationships. I discovered this in my own life. I grew up in a dysfunctional home and so did my ex wife. Both our fathers were alcoholics and my mom was mentally ill. I was a codependent and she was a covert narcissist. I had no idea what either one of those things were when we got married. It almost killed me until I got away. One good thing that came of it is I started working on my issues for which I'm truly grateful. I'm a lot more emotionally healthy than I use to be but I had to do the work which I wasn't even aware of.
If you want healthy relationships you have to be a healthy, decent person yourself. I really like people like you and Cassie Jaye who seem to fit this category.
You have lost phony friends, but you gained back your soul.
Great interview. Keep up the awesome fight, Cassie!
Thanks for doing this. I love you like a sister. Yes, it breaks my heart to see the MGTOW response to feminism. I mean to see how much damage feminism has done. I know some of us are guilty and will spend a lifetime undoing the damage we caused.
Bitch please....
@Go MGTOW I understand that. My Mom and Dad got divorced when I was in third grade. My mom was a feminist and tried to make me think my dad was a son of bitch and when I got older I realized he was a good man. This court and legal system is bad for families and everyone. I read the flip side of feminism and it was very good. I have 3 copies of it now signed by Phyllis Schlafly. I am 100% against all feminism now.
@@jennicase It's nice to see more women who know what feminism has done to harm our society. The more of us there are, the better chance of change....as sadly men don't look out for each other like they look out for us.
Sometimes the only way to make changes happen is a refusal to play ball. If workers for example are being paid a shitty salary and the executives in charge refuse to increase their pay. Do those workers continue to work, hoping against hope that the executives would pay them more of their own accord, or did they go on strike and prevent any work getting done until their demands were met?
Things for men will never improve if we continue to just do the things society heavily relies on and also greatly takes for granted. They will never feel the pressure to renegotiate under these conditions, they got no reason to. Refusing to do the contributions they take for granted every day is the only way to get their attention, we gotta force them back to the negotiating table and that is how you do it. Men's Rights Activism combined with a healthy siding of MGTOW is the key to make great change.
We never wanted this, but if that is what must be done to get the world's attention to make much needed changes, then that is exactly what we're going to do.
At around 8-10 minutes in you appeared to not understand why MRAs are anti marriage. It's simple. I'd say that most MRA's who choose MGTOW have been married and divorced and already have children. They have been through the sexist Family Courts and choose not to put themselves through that system again. Like most things in life, you have to go through it to appreciate the fact that putting yourself through it again is soul destroying.
Cassie, you really need to go on Joe Rogan's podcast/UA-cam Channel. This is long overdue...
Thank you for making this movie, Ms. Jaye. It means a lot for a lot of people.
Wow, man! This is golden content. Cassie Jaye's sincerity and integrity are clear. The synopsis by Warren Farrell just knocks the ball out of the park. Telling the truth is so expensive, yet so rewarding.
Amen ......and Awomen ;)
You should be the face of Nike.....not Colin Kapernack....he was already benched!!! He sacrificed nothing.....Cassie sacrificed everything.
totally agree. but nike went for the easy choice, for they know how our society is right now. the backlash in America for a black man kneeling during the anthem is nothing compared to the hell and lose in sells that Nike would suffer if they agreed how nasty feminism and the world is to men. we can't expect corporations to be like people, willing to ruin their images and future for a good cause. they only do the right thing when it is safe and it will give them good publicity.
@@elessal I already support Addias.....won't be buying a Nike apparel anytime soon.
Kudos to you Cassie....only a woman could champion men in this environment.....we can't do it ourselves. What you exprienced would be 10 times worse for a man saying the same things....your are a modern day Joan of Arc.
Rofl, fucking clowns
steve justice I agree, when men try to point out the misleading statistics or information feminist use, they are just sexist oppressors who can’t handle the strong feminist. I think it’s going to have to be the rational women that start tearing down the feminist hypocrisy.
The key is getting laws changed. Family court laws and sentencing are both so unfair, don’t see feminist fighting for equality there. They have to be updated. Obama’s used to say something to the effect of a cancer diagnosis should not lead to bankruptcy. The same is true of divorce.
We need much more awareness on male suicide, male victims of domestic violence and sex abuse, get more shelters for male homeless...esp since a good number are probably veterans. How can you argue helping veterans?
Feminist have basically become a mans hate group and peg men as the enemy. And I must have missed something...why are men the enemy again?
You still can't find a single feminist on a sinking ship.
Or in a coal mine, on a construction site, etc. Many women work in these fields and I worked side by side with some very brave women. None of them were modern day feminists.
@@bechtoea So some of them were non-"modern-day feminists," as in, old-timey feminists?
Sad to see Cassie mixing up MGTOW and the MRM and trying to form a contradiction where there is none... (still much of a feminist in her)
MGTOW are guys usually burned by family court - who lost EVERYTHING, including children, and say "never again".
MRM fight for mens rights, including fathers rights.
yet both groups can share a common space! eg. a MGTOW fighting for fathers rights, as he has to see his children struggling bc. of missing influence by their father, eventough he fights activly against marriage (which is, sadly, like signing his own death warrant)
so it's NOT contradictionary to say "marriage is toxic femininity" while still fighting for father's rights... ;-)
(after seeing the movie "the red pill", one should know. especially the one creating that movie ;-)
Michael Keller sorry but I had to correct you there. Most of those MGTOWs have never been through the family court system at all
possible - most mgtow i know have (then again: i didn't have that particular "fortune", neither...)
shooter downunder - There's no way in reality that you can know how many MGTOW have or have not been through family court. That is PURE supposition and assumption on your part.
most MGTOW have never been married. The whole point of MGTOW is to go your own way without the need of anyone holding you down.
@@shooterdownunder MOST of us. MOST? Sure I'm in my 20s but look at the stats... All I have to do is look at the millions of men getting absolutely floored while everyone simultaneoulsy demonizes them to be like... "Nah."
Thanks Cassie for the work you're doing, I just came from a couple of YT vids where Australian "journalists" from Sunrise and The Project interviewed you trying to shame you and shut you down without actually having seen the red pill movie. Their behaviour was appalling.
Some Life advice for Cassie, she needs to OWN this. Things will never go back to like they were, that door is closed now, the only way IS forward. Yes, you can become a wife and mother, be damned anyone who belittles that, but if you still want a career doing what you love to do, and are good at, Lean IN. Embrace the truth, embrace those who do also and embrace those who love your work. I haven't seen you on very many video's with other channels, you need to talk with fans, you need to talk with others who have been down this path like Tommy Robinson and Count Dankula and all those people who are making #WalkAway videos. In any case, if you are really seeking the truth, finding it should bring life.
If all she does from here is become a good example to women, trad wife style, it would still be pretty good.
I have always felt extremely embarassed about how the Australian media treated you and your film. Your work is inspirational! I hope your work inspires more people to come forward and that we can overturn this ridiculous polarizing gender politics disease in the Western world. I've always believed that modern-day feminism does more harm than good and your case has only strengthened my resolve to never be a feminist.
Thank you for the sacrifices you made in making this important documentary and for the balanced approach you took.
Looking forward to your next project.
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Thanks Cassie for a wonderful movie and follow up interviews 😊
Olivia Moore
I would love to hear what you think as a woman about this subject I have three daughters and they are committed feminists and have no time for MRA or mgtow
Mgtow Jones I don’t like todays feminism at all. I’m an egalitarian and I believe we need to fight for everyone’s rights. There are injustices towards men and women and it’s not as cut and dry as to say women are the only ones who are oppressed. Things can improve for both men and women. Like for instance shared custody of both sides want it and both are for then let them have shared custody. I’m against custody going to women in most cases if the father wants custody too and he’s fit to be a parent. There’s lots to be said about this really. I’m for the men’s rights movement, I am not a big fan of mgtows (not the idea, that’s up to them.) from what I’ve seen they are as bad as feminists, hostile and so on. So I don’t really like them. I’m short I don’t like the toxicity from both sides. Why not come together and work for each other’s rights instead of having an us against them mentality.
thank you Olivia, for being part of the solution! the more women we get on our side, the better, you are as much important as cassie, every woman who sees that this is not a "black and white" world is impportant
joão soares thank you very much. I don’t think I’m as important as Cassie as I don’t have much influence. I am however on your side as I am on my side. I think a lot can improve for men. Like custody and people taking spousal abuse when it comes to men seriously. I got a male friend who was abused by his gf. I were raped and physically and mentally abused by my ex gf. Women can be as bad as men.
this gender division is bad for all of us... we should be looking for punishing criminals, not men or women... because not every man, and not every woman is evil, but some of them are... and we should not think that the evil people are only in one gender.
Much love and respect for your integrity and your dedication, Cassie.
"I was going to reveal them for who they really were"
And you did :)
A question for Cassie: Did you make your money back on the film? Or even maybe a profit? I'm not asking for numbers just a general assessment.
Yes, Cassie, marriage is important. But the reason why MRAs avoid it like the plague is because it is filled with NOTHING but liabilities and dangers for men.
You should know this.
The majority of alimony and child custody goes to women. If men can't pay or keep up they go to jail. If women can't, they get help. Since No-Fault divorce became a thing, men have been having their lives destroyed ever since. The vast majority of male veteran suicides are during divorce.
The woman doesn't have to have a reason to initiate it, and the vast majority of divorces are initiated by women. And there's nothing the man can do. I've heard
SO
MANY
stories of "she took everything" and the state backs it up 100%. Marriage now just looks like a set-up for future asset acquisition. Legal theft. He worked his ass off for years to buy this house, this car, raise this family.
And now it's all hers. Stay away and pay your bills, dude, or you go to jail.
THAT'S what it looks like from the outside.
Thank you, Cassie. I could say a lot more, but that's all that needs to be said.
i agree very much with what she says about the gender relations regarding children. it's also something that is never mentioned at all when people talk about open-relationships, polyamory etc.
I suppose the problem with marriage for mgtow men and mra's is simply that trust in it as an institution is demolished and the current state with the way predominant feminism looks like is demolishing trust in the sincerity of a relationship. men are simply afraid of being objectified for their resources, put down for their masculinity when convenient and betrayed when the next one with more or more appealing resources comes along rather than being cherished for their value as a person and loved for who they are. the degree of entitlement and the image of male life that a lot of feminists and women show is simply appalling and absurdly naive.
Men are capable of a lot of personal sacrifices for what they value and love but if that's not recognized, is put down, exploited or abused then trust has gone out the window and men will turn their back and play the same game: never trust, never sacrifice.
This is a gem of a statement. Well spoken sir.
So your willing to give up one of the very few things that give life meaning because 50% of the random f ups and weirdos that get married get divorced? You can do what you like but i dont live my life based on the probabilities of others outcomes. That would be stupid.
Royer 714 I guess you and I have a different opinion on what gives life meaning. You, like most people, will and should learn things the hard way. You’ve been warned. Just remember this. EVERY single man who is going through a divorce or has gone through one never thought that the woman they loved would turn into the demon they faced in court. I wish you luck. You’re going to need it.
@@boneheded2819 the system you find so overwhelming is easily beatable if you understand its one weakness and exploit it. But it does take a little more effort than giving up.
Royer714.What is this one weakness that can be exploited ?
Madam, you have my respect. Please have hope and continue your work..............
I really liked the film and it astonished me........
please don't think of it as a career suicide think of it as a step towards new possibilities......
At the end of watching The Red Pill, I wept uncontrollably for half an hour. Thank you, Cassie. Just........... thank you.
You are a trail Blazer. Keep it up. You are definitely one of the most independent film makers out there. Keep up the great work.
You gave up future opportunities so that others might have a future opportunity to be heard.
It’s hard not to love you and it’s unfortunately the ultimate heroes outcome but you bear your cross well.
Thank you so, so much CJ!
As much as it hurt you, I'm glad you took this risk too.
Your film is an extremely NECESSARY piece of journalism with an honest message. It's something that HAD to be made, something that HAD to be said. It's important in such a multitude of ways attempting to frame it with words simply constrains the importance of the message.
I'm sorry as hell that you've suffered in the way you have. Your shabby treatment is totally undeserved.
Thank you for your work. Thank you for your interest. Thank you for your tenaciousness. Thank you for your compassion. And thank you for the sacrifices you've made (willing or otherwise).
History will vindicate you.
You have nothing but my utmost respect.
If a woman marries a man the state offers her lots of money to break up with him. So if men want a stable long term relationship with women maybe _not_ marrying is currently the best option, including for children.
Chilapa of the Amazons Don't marry...don't have children...don't cohabitate...until the laws are changed.
If you live together long enough then you become common law. You don't have to sign up to be vulnerable to government stripping away your hard earned wage.
Diamondinmyeye Don't live together...
@@earlgreystoke3324 Yes, I understand that's the MGTOW approach. My point was intended for the OP which was suggesting long term unmarried relationships were best for children. If kids are involved it's already too late.
The only women with financial interests in divorcing are mothers. I don’t have kids. The state won’t support me if I divorce. And divorce itself is expensive and time consuming. So nah, if you want a stable, long term relationship, refusing to marry is not the way to go about it. In fact, if you’re already thinking she’s going to leave cause of government money, then you shouldn’t be in that relationship anyway.
It is my fond hope that, in future, Cassie Jaye will be held up as a pioneer, someone who broke the mould against a dangerous ideology, and shone a light on reality. Her courage to not only "meet her enemy" but also to challenge her own belief system is very admirable. I just hope more people can do the same before society completely implodes.
You are an angel, keep doing your good work, what ever project you have next.
Nothing says you can't make other documentaries as well, about his or any other topic.
Thank you Cassie. You are a beautiful human being with a huge loving heart.
You have a lot of support. Stay courageous. Think about the Nike slogan...
Respect to you from New Zealand
No, no, no, you've completely missed everything on marriage. MGTOW point one thing : the institutions around marriage are a nightmare you don't want to come anywhere near. MGTOW also point out that everything that has to do with producing or raising children is also incredibly hazardous WC and encourage people to avoid going near that too.
MRAs point out the crucial importance of father in children's lives. That take place once people failed to take MGTOW's advice.
Both group agree that the institutions need to be fixed. MGTOW doesn't tell people to ditch their children. MGTOW is about personal responsibility and self reliance. Here are the risks, here are what to avoid. If you choose to take the risks, here're some ways to mitigate them, and make sure to plan for the potential fallout. Once you're aware of MGTOW, you don't become a victim of the system, only a foolish gambler loosing a stupid bet you've been warned not to place.
There is no contradiction between MGTOW saying to avoid making children, avoid marriage, avoid relationships, and MRAs saying that father are important for children.
MGTOW has nothing much to say to you once you've got children beside "deal with it responsibly, and try your best not to get crushed by the system you stepped in"
Thus MGTOW perfectly fits the bigger globalist agenda, reducing births and causing further destruction of families.
@Herbert Kroll That's only a consequence of any war where the innocent suffer through collateral damage.
@@herbertkroll1266 how does MGTOW destroy families ?
Why is it we see no sense of loss or regret from mgtow and only one solution? I think what we have here is a self selected group of modertly disturbed over emotional kids that were never all that interested in family to begin with. At some point unmarried career women and aging mgtow will be indistinguishable.
@@Bob-fz7pd if you don't see loss or regret from MGTOW, you either didn't pay attention or there is something wrong with your empathy.
I mean, a big part of MGTOW content is about dealing with the grief and loss of hope to have a fulfilling relationship. The whole concept of "the red pill rage" has to do with grief...
I'm not even a MGTOW, I don't really listen to that much MGTOW content, and I managed to get that quickly. How much attention did you pay ? Did you just settle your opinion after listening to a few angry MGTOWs and thinking "there's nothing more to it than angry guys ?"
I'd love to see a documentary focused specifically on modern feminism, talking to people on the inside, and those who were kicked out.
Furthermore, I'd love to see something on the spread of feminism to companies and governments, and whether those policies are truly supported by the general public.
kebakent I doubt they’ll talk to Cassie now
Thank you Cassie Jaye for following your integrity and doing the right thing. I and a lot of other people respect you for that.
Thank you Cassie for telling for telling the truth!
Respect to you Cassie Jay. Tons of respect!
I admire you, you put yourself out there and took flak and still standing. Kudos!
You're a queen Cassie. Opening people's eyes
Thank you for the upload, another great interview.
some people might want to throw stones at you, as for me i would like to throw some flowers.
Cassie you are a rare precious honest woman not many women left in the world like you please stay honest
Cassie, you're awesome! Thanks for taking such a huge risk on behalf of the future of the western world and opening this conversation.
"... The Red Pill is the most courageous documentary that has ever been created." I don't think the original qualification was justified. To choose to be cast out from your self-identified intellectual and social in-group, how many would do that?
Cassie, I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart... but I feel so terrible for you for the treatment you have endured, just because you're trying hard to do what is right. I am so so sorry.
"The most important of all the relationships is a man and a woman living together." --Mencius, 4th century bc Chinese philosopher. Feminism makes it impossible.
Honesty!
Watched the film and loved it, very glad you made it. All too often nowadays, the only narrative seems to be a one-sided monologue based on echo chamber back-patting. Thankyou for your attempt to correct this.
I bought the dvd an watched it twice so far! Found her style and ability to gather information to be amazing!!!
I'm glad you did the film. It was a very good experience to watch, both the film itself, and your journey of releasing it through social media.
You did a very brave thing and men and women (Real Woman) will thank you forever. You will be remembered Xx
There's no contradiction between MGTOW and men caring for and wanting to have a part in raising their children. In fact, it's because men DO CARE, but don't get a fair shake when it comes to custody rights and divorce settlements, that they are going MGTOW.
The Red Pill documentary is the best thing that has ever happened for our men's rights movement, hopefully we can see more of these in the future.
You do important work, cassie.
Thank you very, very much indeed.
I don't see any contrast with prioritising children's welfare and eschewing marriage. At it's core, a wedding is a contract binding two people together with some government intrusion into the union. The vows each party make lay out their obligations to one another and a divorce should carry penalties to the pursuant. Lately it has become clear the groom carries the burden of responsibility solely, and women - as the overwhelming majority of divorce petitioners - are actually rewarded for reneging on their promises. No one in their right mind would become a husband if they knew the risks, especially if hard times hit and the couple are forced onto government assistance. At that point it's much easier if he didn't live with her.
I loved "The Red Pill"! You did a great service to humanity & rationality with that documentary. You should be incredibly proud of yourself! I'm deeply thankful for your effort to seek the truth, as opposed to only be trying to confirm your own bias.
PS: About your statement in this interview, that "You need marriage to strengthen that relationship" (between fathers and their children):
This is wrong. Children don't need their parents to be married; they only need a stable relationship with their parents. And preferably the parents should be in a commited relationship with each other (which doesn't require marriage), because a committed relationship between the parents improves the stability of their relationship with their children.
But like I said, you don't need marriage to achieve a committed relationship; people can be just as committed to one another without being married. Marriage is just a juridical label; an illusory label to make a relationship seem more committed than it necessarily is. True commitment (true love) doesn't need any such superficial label.
Furthermore, marriage was mainly invented by culture as a way for women to be legally ensured resources for their offspring.
In other words: Marriage is mainly a female dream, because it's women who benefit the most from it (because they're the ones who have offspring to take care of, biologically speaking). A lot of men like the idea of marriage too, of course, but not as much as women typically do. Women typically deem marriage higher than men, and they often plan their dream-wedding for years before they ever get married. The wedding carries a special meaning to women, because that's the day that their man is showing the MOST official commitment to them. And the female biology desire a committed man, because his commitment means that he'll provide them with resources in the future. And this commitment is exactly what the wedding/marriage symbolizes to them, either consciously or unconsciously.
Are there more raw files I would love to see them
Before the movie
Everyone : Is this chick for real ?
After the movie
Everyone: This chick is real AF 💪!
Cassie i saw your film (the red pill) in netflix maybe a year ago, I want to see it again , it's no longer in netflix, this is sad, you should keep fighting for the truth
I think you hit the nail on the head. I mean really, who cares about fathers rights, boys rights, their suicide rates, their genital mutilation rates. Oh wait a minute ...who cares? OMG and down the rabbit hole we go......I think we found a problem here.....
Thanks for following through, finishing the project, and putting it out into the public.
Yay! New uploads :) I hope you took a long vacation and well deserved break with your new husband!
Cassie you are a hero. Thank you for risking everything to make such an important film
Cassie, you are amazing. Thank you for your honesty and good work.
Gotta disagree with you on one thing Cassie. Marriage is in no way required to be a "present father". You can't confuse not being married with not being together. Just because men are starting to avoid marriage as an institution, doesn't mean they're all avoiding being in a committed relationship and living together with a woman and their child. "Marriage" isn't required for that.
Agreed, but even co-habiting is fraught with danger if the relationship doesn't hold together. It's not just marriage that is dangerous for men in the current climate; it's forming families.
Yeah, but there are fewer unfair _legal_ burdens placed on the man by the gynocentric legal system, particularly when the relationship ends. (Unless you live somewhere with common-law marriage laws, that is)
I really hope you avoid becoming bitter and fed up. Thanks for the good work.
Cassie I admire you a lot for the sacrifices you've made to honestly follow the evidence. Can I encourage you to please consider making a #WalkAway video?
Dain Is #walkaway about walking away from feminist movement? That would be good if we could get a movement like that going mainstream.
How about public service announcements on male issues. There needs to be more awareness. You may be too young, but there are people who will never fry an egg without thinking....this is your brain on drugs. Highlighting male suicide and how lost boys are feeling, fathers that never get to see their kids. Awareness helps push the agenda to actually change some laws.
if i am not mistaken (correct me if im wrong) walk away is about walking away from society and women... but if ii am wrong i apolagize.
#WalkAway was originally conceived to be about walking away from leftism and the Democrat party in the US, but some people have their own interpretation. It seems to me that Leftism is really what Cassie is moving away from, since feminism's current form and tactics are a close subset of Leftism.
That was one of the best documentaries I ever seen. Misandry is huge in the world right now.
I thank you for your work cassie!
Every time I look and listen to Warren, I can't help but to feel that he would have to be one of the kindest, gentlest men on the planet.
But hey, this is what mens rights looks like, right?
Pure misogyny lol.
Cassie, you have done what no one else in mainstream would dare, I respect you so much for this alone.
The backlash will always show how hypocritical feminism is, and always has been.
Your such a brave woman. Thank you
We need to learn to welcome the truth even when it hurts or offends
now say that to the morons on feminist or mra's sides,they don't want nobody criticizing them cuz they're always "right"
Mgtow isn’t just about not getting married, it’s also about not having kids.
Its true - Cassie will ALWAYS be known for the integrity and fortitude it took to make and promote her film. This cultural insanity will move on, believe it or not, and when she is ever asked 'what did YOU do in the war Cassie?' she can hold her head up high. It was a great doco and I'm sure there's many more in her if she wants to do it again.
Damn right having a father in a stable relationship is important to the children.
So perhaps we should have our society and the legal system that steers it value fathers more, you can't blame men for weighting costs against benefits of marriage with a cool head.
Honest and brave. I admire you and your work!
I have tons of respect for Cassie. Wondering if she was lying about being a feminist isn't the issue. She really was a feminist. Learning that she is open minded and wants to work for true gender equality *is* the issue. It is the bravest thing she could have ever done.
I can understand the interviewer's concerns. He is thinking, isn't it convenient that Cassie was solidly a feminist and she changed her mind during the course of this documentary. Don't you think that is convenient? The documentary wouldn't be as cool if she was a men's rights activist the entire time. The fact that she changed makes it a more powerful documentary and a better story.
I can understand this line of thought, but you have to use your brain as well.
I mean, how many women outside of Karen Straughn are men's rights activists?
To think that Cassie was secretly an MRA the entire time is ludicrous.
Look at the backlash the movie has gotten. Look around you. Do you really need more evidence that people are against men's rights? Do you really need to be convinced that Cassie used to be a feminist with everything that she went through? She did feminist documentaries first. She experienced trying out for parts in Hollywood. She is a woman. She has every reason to be a feminist.
Many feminists are actively looking for signs that we live in a rape culture world. The idea that a feminist could search for the ugly rape culture world and try to expose it for a documentary is completely reasonable.
She has many fewer reasons to look at men's rights activism with an open mind. She did exactly that, though.
It is easy to believe that she was a feminist. She wasn't making any of that up. She experienced trying out for movies for crying out loud.
*The challenging thing for people is not being a feminist.* The challenging thing is to listen to the other side and have an open mind.
I have a lot of respect for Cassie. She could have ignored the men's rights activists she talked to. She could have searched the internet until she found men who make light of rape. She could have focused on real rape apologists. Unfortunately, there really are some legitimately sexist and misogynistic people out there. She could have ignored any voice for reason and equality and she could have just focused on the real rape apologists, but she didn't.
She could have still done the rape apologist movie she had in mind at the beginning. But she had the strength to do the right thing and to look at legitimate male problems.
I have tons of respect for Cassie. Believing that she was ever a feminist isn't the issue. Learning that she is open minded and wants to work for true gender equality is bravest thing she could have ever done.
Wow
👏 bravo
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@5:19 "...and the MGTOW movement, and... ehm... _* swallows *_ "
Wow, that word still has some emotional charge with you, Cassie! Something for your next movie? :D
Helena Do you think the current divorce and custody/child support laws need to be updated?
Helena I don’t know if abolishing it is realistic, divorce will happen, but it should not be a whim. I swear I know some women who divorce solely over chores...really your ready to divorce and cause all that upheaval to your kids because he doesn’t to the dishes enough?
I understand for infidelity, abuse, addictions or mental illness...but with the later two see if willing to get help first.
And if divorce does occur there can’t be automatic women get custody, all the money, etc. times have changed so much, but the laws are still set in 1950. I don’t blame men for not even risking getting married...the system is rigged against them.
@Helena "not a movement, that's a just big selfish FUCK YOU ALL"
Most MGTOW I know work for charities, donate to good causes, and work on self-improvement. They act in their own best interest; that's not being selfish. They merely chose not to place bets in a game that's rigged against them.
+ Helena - So MGTOW are selfish for protecting ourselves and looking after our own self interests because the world, and especially Feminists like yourself are actively seeking our destruction?
That's some very stout narcissism you have there.
@Helena There's a distinction between being selfish and being self-interested. The former implies seeking personal gain at the expense of others, the latter just means seeking personal gain. Feminists are selfish; MGTOW are self-interested.
I'm grateful to Cassie Jaye for making The Red Pill--watching that film was my red-pill wake-up experience.
I don't see it as contradictory that MRAs are anti-marriage and also concerned about the necessity of fathers in raising children. The reasons MRAs give for avoiding marriage are about the legal risks involved, not the institution of marriage itself, or the idea of having a committed partnership. Myself, I'd marry and have a family, but only if I found a woman whom I could trust to not wield her state-backed power against me. And I'd rather forgo fatherhood than settle for a partner who would do that.
You can watch my full interview with Rebel Wisdom on their youtube channel: ua-cam.com/video/9uaCljuywkY/v-deo.html
Much respect for you Cassie Jaye! Thank you for speaking the truth!
telling the truth to a feminist is like pouring holy water on a witch :)
It's too late, for the male & female genders, to make peace.
My Dad died when I was young and I've suffered ever since, I didn't realise it was suffering until fairly recently as i thought it was normal, in fact I saw myself as pretty average. I'm quite old now and everything I've attempted to do has failed, one of lifes losers I'm waiting out my days until I check out of this place, I have not been designed to survive here
I checked your channel - you're very perceptive. Stay strong, and keep making and sharing your angles on art and music :)
Thanks Cassie!
I think what you did is show that men have a different set of societal problems. That men aren’t living the good life at the expense of women. That our problems are the other half of the male/female traditional paradigm. I think Doug Stanhope said it best: Tradition is dead people’s baggage. Stop carrying it. I think a lot of people were taught that life is supposed to be awesome and they are unique and special. When they find out they aren’t, they need to blame someone other than the people who lied to you about being special.
Your amazing cassie jaye never lose your passion. Also you look so happy cassie, you are golden. No one can bring you down.
The red pill awareness in me still can’t help but smirk as this documentary is still all about her and how she feels! 😂 ..
We love you Cassie!!!
Delighted to see new (current) material, and more mainstream acceptance of your POV.