She made the movie melt my heart as well as more of its characters like the titular deurotagonist, Jesper (we really love his maturing from a pampered rich boy to a guy who lives alone in terms of his warm home and with his new very reformed friends from Smeerensburg like ambitious schoolteacher Alva and the list goes on)!
I think it was about how adults in the town also started being nice to each other alongside with children, ever though they didn't get any toys. Like where one lady gifted a jam after kids harvested berries and other lady made her a pie in response. And grumpy old man that injured a leg and got helped by kids then constructed a playground
Thank you for your kind words, I worked on this movie for a bit more than a year and it is incredibly gratifying to see the positive response to our work. Your idea about the liar reveal trope is interesting but tbh it was so hard to imagine the final outcome while we were making the movie that I think most of us were just surprised that it actually worked as a whole when we saw the final product :) I think this scene is intended more as an emotional climax rather than a believable plot point, and in that regard I think it is really effective! It was for me at least, even though I knew the story by heart haha
@samuel smith I just want you to know, you had a hand in creating one of my new favorite Christmas movies. This is an instant classic that simultaneously breaks and warms the deepest parts of my heart. You are an artist and you worked in the company of artists and I wish you all the merriest of Christmas’s
I just saw your film this year and I was blown away. It’s clear that the film is one that focuses on the emotions more than anything and has a very fun story! You and your team did an excellent job. The end of the film makes me want to cry and I can’t even put my finger on why! The music, the bittersweet ending...idk it’s just so great! I haven’t seen an animated film like this one in a long time (though I’ve seen many incredible ones) this was so original and you should be so proud for making a new Christmas classic!
Yes this movie is one of my new favorite Christmas movies and I would like to thank you very much for helping to make it as well! Thank you for all your hard work it was definitely worth it!
Sir, let me just say. Last year i watched your movie, and it freaking blew me away. With the animation, the setting, the characters...just everything about it was incredible. You have made some FINE work that may just go down in history
I think the character works best when they focus on what makes him who he is as opposed to just who he is, pretty much all of his representation in this film and scene with him and Jack frost in the workshop where he shows the wonder he sees in the world and how to him Christmas is about sharing that.
I think the whole "a selfless act spurs on another" in context of the film is more about how you can start doing good things for selfish reasons but if you do it enough it'll become second nature to you and you'll start actually acting selflessly like how Vesper starts the whole Santa thing to get more letters but ultimately continues it because of the joy it brings to children and how it improves the town. Virtue is shown as habitual not unlike Aristotelian virtue ethics.
Actually, I see Klaus’ childish moment as “Dammit, you’re making the plan more complicated than it needs to be.” I personally found it funny, but I can see how it can be annoying.
Is it me or is the reason Klaus, Alva, etc. rejected Jesper in the liar revealed moment near the end of the movie just so they could keep up the fake toys act?
I'm more disturbed that they had this whole fake toy setup without letting Jesper in on the idea. Like, Jesper's the second in command on this whole thing. Why doesn't he know?
I wish they had committed to the ‘twist’. Imagine how much stronger the ending would have been if the kids woke up and there were no toys. No toys, and it seems like they’re going to go back to their old ways immediately, but then it cuts to them giving their toys to each other. They realise maybe Mr. Klaus is overworked, it’s unfair of them to expect him to do so much, and they can look out for each other. Maybe some have even tried their hands at making toys themselves, PROVING the heads of the feuding families wrong when they say the children are just being bribed.
@@pauielicious4433 Secret Santa or even just gift-giving in general. ArtistsicPixie and pauie licious, I applaud both of you for coming up with a better twist to this movie and finding a way to tie it into current traditions.
I feel like your point about “selflessness” is kinda askew, given as you mention it’s just a case of poor wording...but “selfless” *isn’t* the word the movie chooses to use. It’s an act of goodwill, which TOTALLY fits what the kids (and especially the adults later) are doing.
What they said in the movie changed from time to time. Sometimes it was "A true selfless act always Sparks another" or "a true act of Goodwill always Sparks another" or I think there was another one but I don't remember.
@@TiffanyRay No act of kindness is selfless, we get satisfaction from doing a kind act. We are very selfish creatures, if we weren't selfish, we wouldn't move a single finger. The moment you are born, you only think about yourself. Empathy is just the ability to put yourself into someone else's shoes. AKA, what would you feel if you were that person, putting yourself before them. By no means, being selfish is bad, because of that we can do kind acts.
I agree about the Jasper's plan reveal. I literally shrugged and thought, "Oh no, a selfish intention literally fixed an entire town's problems and made children happy. What an awful person Jasper is"
@coisas /m\ Being a good person doesn't really matter if it changes everyone's lives for the better. There are plenty of great deeds done by less than great people. That does not mean those people did not help everyone else out.
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming at the beginning children’s happiness was only a plus...the letters is what he was going for. So is not really a good deed...think of tangled were her mother (kidnapper) locked her in a towel and took care of her but for the purpose of using her hair to her young...that wasn’t a good deed she saw what he wanted and it just happened that she needed to raise her too
I think Todd in the shadows said it best: “At the end of the day, I’ll take an insincere display of charity over a sincere display of apathy every single time.”
Tradition isn't THAT bad; it keeps us connected with our ancestry, has some nice historical info behind them and feels much more wholesome than whatever's "trending" out there. I'll give you a great example; on Thanksgiving, three out of the four people in my home LOVE eating turkey (among other things at the table.) Whereas my sister claims we should make a "new tradition," one that involves eating pizza on Thanksgiving instead. Naturally, the three of us shoot down the idea; proclaiming that while it's tasty, pizza doesn't mesh well with the rest of the feast
I feel like Celly missed Jespers arc. His arc wasn't about learning to appreciate his community but about growing up. If you need convincing then think about hos he started the movie as a spoiled brat and ended up as a husband and father of two.
Mogens was by far my favorite character in the film. He's a man who knows where his place in the world is: Ferrying people and supplies to an island, and messing with city slickers in over their heads.
Add to the fact he's voiced by Norm MacDonald and that makes him one of my favourites, along with his jabs at Jesper and enjoying his suffering...then getting his father to help him by getting him to talk and reveal he wants to stay.
Here's how I would have done the "liar revealed" thing: Jesper's dad: Time to go home son. Jesper: I appreciate the offer, Dad, but I'd rather stay here.
Agreed. The whole thing of "time to go" ..."you're leaving and you LIED to us?!?" And then the "nope! I didnt leave!" Is an absolute rehash of.....how many fucking Disney tropes?? Fml. There are more ways to write the ending ffsn
@@bandashee tropes exist for a reason, every single movie doesn’t need to subvert expectations. Klaus knows the story it wanted to tell, and executed it perfectly. It’s a modern classic.
I mean...it’s not like Jesper did a complete 180 in character. He did still have some of his spoiled habits and the whole stay-or-go decision was forced on him without giving him much time to process or consider, so I can kinda see why he didn’t immediately reject his dad’s invitation to leave.
@@kinjorex101 that’s exactly what I was thinking too. He was still dreaming about those silk sheets & the luxury of his old life that they represented bc he had planned to return to it eventually. As you said he didn’t have much time to think it over at first but the walk to the boats was enough time for him to realize he wanted to stay.
As someone who's applying to school of visualarts for animation I studied THE HELL out of this film and watching all of the behind the scenes. Wonderful Film.
@@Thechaosprime Hopefully Netflix decides to continue supporting this kind of movies. Who knows, maybe other streaming companies may even follow this trend.
@Jack Hillman oh sorry but that’s not quite right! i thought that as well at first because they really do sound similar, but i looked it up and jesper is voiced by jason schwartzman whereas kuzco is voiced by david spade.
Klaus, to me, is Netflix’s Spiderverse. Amongst the subpar and terrible cartoons they (not necessarily) made, this was a breath of fresh air to new and great things they can hopefully distribute more of!
Best ANIMATED Christmas movie, maybe, yeah. (Think I'd still give the nod to "Arthur Christmas", but both are excellent.) But sorry, "A Christmas Story" is the greatest Christmas movie of all time in my world. :)
I’ll play devil’s advocate for a sec and throw out the fact that Klaus has nothing to do with what the holiday is traditionally about, so could it be the best “Christmas” movie? Yeah wish the whole liar revealed thing ended differently; I go nuts when a film/book takes the road less traveled and doesn’t have everyone go ballistic and get mad.
For the longest time, I used to hold Arthur Christmas the best Christmas movie spot. (Never found A Christmas Story to be fun to rewatch.) I think it's time to give up the mantel to Klaus, (I only found out about it now.)
When she said that Margo was cuter than baby yoda, reminded me of my english teacher who showed us this movie and said the same thing but without the fight me part. Edit: neat, My comment past 69, 420 and 666. I call that an achievement.
I would gladly take a bullet for baby yoda. He may not be the best meme ever but I still love him to bits. However Margu also is great, so how about we meetca compromise. Both are great.
I didn't mind the "spoiled city kid sent to the boonies" plot in this film, mostly because it did put a bit of a twist on it. Most of the time when a movie has this plot the town/residents are already really great (if odd), and the main character has to have it repeatedly hammered home that a simple life is better/more meaningful than their old life in the city. This movie had the town be terrible, giving Jesper a legitimate reason to want to leave, and it focused on how Jesper and Klaus changed the town for the better instead of getting him to see how great it is. I found that oddly refreshing.
Also, with jasper using the kids for letters, it goes to show he can have some skills when motivated. Beginning he was lazy, but with motivation, he can commit. Later on, he even goes above and beyond without gaining anything with that margu kid
One of my favorite moments from the movie is when the Sami tribe and jasper are putting the wooden figures in the little place that Klaus and his wife had made for them and future children. The expression they give Klaus as he sees all the little wooden figures, realizing that this IS his family, is so touching.
I was struck by how she's probably the first animated character where l noticed just how much *volume* was in her hair. Seriously, that's some *beautiful* hair!
Also adding that a lot of amazing retired Disney animators worked on this. John Pomeroy (lead animator for John Smith, Milo Thatch, and cofounder of Don Bluth Studios) for example was the head animator of Jesper
He also used his similar animation style for Jesper as Dr. Doppler from Treasure Planet which is the nail on the head confirmation it was indeed from a Disney animator
I hope for more 2d animation too. I think we need just more variety in general as well not just more 2d animation but also more variety in stuff like genres, tones, settings, character types and styles (theres a lot of areas lacking in variety in western animation lately especially animated movies in my opinion) I love both the Klaus movie and Green Eggs and Ham series (I would like to who ever made that series adapt the other Seuss books next, especially the Lorax)
LOL, I described this movie to my friends as this, "Imagine if instead of being turned into a llama, Kuzco was exiled to an isolated northern town with an ultimatum." And then you flash Emperor's New Groove on the screen and I'm like, yep, I'm not the only one who sees it.
You're right. For the first few minutes of the film I was thinking "Ok, this guy is just a Kuzco-like copycat" and I started to lose interest since I already figured out that at the end he would become a selfless person because the trope demanded it. As much as people praise this movie, the tropes it uses are so overdone I can't really enjoy it. For a movie that tried to bring back 2d animation, I feel like they should've worked more on making the story unique, maybe create twists on the clichés, but they didn't even try.
@@gameknight9956 When you put it THAT way, you're right. I suppose it all comes down to balancing tradition with modern culture. "We cannot forget who we are or where we come from," as the Emperor Meji said in Last Samurai
I think the mutual relationship between the warring families is almost like a sort of Power ensurer. As long as there's always conflict, they're always in control.
When the lier reveal went over, I thought the characters just acted upset towards him so he wouldn't ruin their secret plan. An act But this is my new favorite Christmas movie
@@renaesenton8306 Tina doesn't really have that rebellious personally though, Tina's personally at the start of the movie is more of a workaholic and the only change she wants is to own her own restaurant. Ariel is actually the princess I feel like fits the best with the whole rebel and change, she literally rebels her father's wishes changes from fish person to land dweller. All the princess are somewhat rebellious one way or another because that personally type appeals to young girls. Repunzal is rebellious in that she wants to go outside and disobey Mother Gothal, which is what you describe but it's done very well. Mulan doesn't fit her family's expectations and pretends to be a man to take the place of her father in the war. Pocahontas goes against her society's/fathers expectations. Belle and her father is strange to the town's people around her and go against what is normal. Anna is quirky/goofy and wants to find love, but she's not rebellious and is just lonely. Haven't seen Moana so I can't say anything about her. Cinderella is passive, but she's still has a bit of spice compared to the next two. Princess Aurora only has 18 lines of dialogue, so she's like Snow white who's personally is basically just sweet and kind.
Probably not though. Princess and the frog suffered from two things: 1) Disney's own self-sabotaging, by marketing 3d animation as the "new best thing", despite the fact that animation-wise, the 2D animation of the 90's and early 2000's was absolutely stunning and I would argue, visually superior to anything made in 3D, to this very day. Disney basically WANTED 2D to fail. And because Disney basically has a monopoly at this point, there is nothing that could be done about it. Kids are eager to follow the new hype and stick to their own stupidity, and parents don't give a crap so long as it keeps their brats quiet. Behold, the death of art through industry. 2) Princess and the Frog is a mediocre film in terms of story-telling. It's villain is uninteresting and is barely in the movie to begin with, the main character is basically perfect in every single way, and the only one that goes on an actual character arc is the male frog. There is barely any heart in the film, other than the music. If Disney wanted to test out 2D animation, P&TF was the worst choice. So my guess is that no, 2D animation will not make a comeback if Disney maintains their practical if not theorectical monopoly of western animation. Given how willing Disney has shown itself to simply milk a franchise into the ground with live-action remakes that lack any and all creative integrity, it would be naïve to think they would have the artistic integrity to bring back some actual creative vision. Oh well, at least there is still anime, though Japanese studios are going through a horrible phase of capitalist greed as well. Hard to find a single studio that isn't grasping for financial aid at this point. Ugly-ass CGI stiffness seems to have become the norm. We can also thank pirating for that.
The liar revealed wasn't....revealed enough. Idk how they didn't already know he was doing this for a reason. And when they did find out it was to appease his dad and go home, why were they so mad? Sad? Sure. Disappointed? Perhaps. Mad that he wasn't going to help with the obligation of the final deliveries? Maybe. But mad he was leaving at all?? The girl wanted to leave for 5 years, and i honestly thought Klaus had figured it out in the "everyone's doing it for something" talk Other than that tho? Honestly amazing and the first bit of style inspiration for my senior film in Animation school.
I wish that, instead of being fully mad, they just would be mad at start, then Jesper explain everything to them, they undertand, his father kinda convinces him to go back home, everything like the movie, except that the toys are really THE toys. So, they spend the rest of the night making new toys for the kids. Continue as normal the movie. I knoe it's sucks but it's something.
Why isn’t anyone understanding that they weren’t mad he left they were mad because they thought he was only doing it for the letters. Which he was at the beginning but as progress went on he had a change in heart. That’s why they were mad.
@@bethanyhaslam7239 I understand THAT they were mad; what I don't understand is the WHY, because that reason makes no sense. Even if he did it for entirely selfish reasons, they were still better off for him having done it. It's not like anyone was harmed by his actions, regardless of his motivations.
@@troodon1096they are mad at him because they thought he was doing all this because he cared (which he did) but the town leaders made it seem like he only was doing it so he could go back to privileged life which is what he originally intended. He always wanted leave the town just not as much near the end until the ride to boat made him he wanted to stay. It isn’t that hard to understand.
Nah, that spot will forever belong to Beauty and the Beast. The original theatrical cut, not the extended DVD one with the extra song and bad color matching. Klaus and Spider-verse is really good though... They're in my top 10.
While i agree it’s highly overused and cliche, the idea of the “Liar revealed” trope i think has less to do with the reveal, but the point is more about the emotional betrayal From knowing someone you care about and or who means something to you, abused your trust, lied and or manipulated you. if you look at it in those terms i have less problems with the trope, being as the point is that the turmoil comes from knowing someone you care about didn’t respect you and or was using you which can be hurtful and make people dismissive. Now again the issue is its so cliche and often had assed and or not given proper weight that it falls flat one good example is How to Train your dragon, when Stoick learns that hiccup has been keeping toothless and he disowns him, when he leaves the hut you see him stagger and his facial features react as we see him contemplate what he’s just done, and it gives the entire thing a different feel and weight to it other than “you lied to me”
Dan Traverse the hog father is another Christmas movie you could give a try (and it’s on youtube!) tho I’m uncertain if it has the holiday spirit, or just the trappings. It does have a subplot about family, but it takes a backseat to the main discussion of belief and how belief evolves (and how belief works in a world where the stuff you believe in is real). It’s a great fun either way :)
I think with even some faults, Klaus is one of those movies like Arthur Christmas that will be forever in peoples hearts because it is such a universally understood film that people can relate to it. I think it’s on the same level as Arthur’s Christmas and that I could see it being played in homes every year because of its simple message that does need to be said for everyone to hear.
I agree pretty much 100% with what you've said. From the emperor's new groove to the comparison's to the dogtor from treasure planet the cliche liar revealed trope and your idea to change that. You've also brilliantly described thing's I didn't take into account, like the town being a character. Anyone who's seen movies dating from at least the 80's to the 90's knows all to well the liar revealed trope and knew it was coming in Klaus. I was hoping that it would be such a non-issue for this movie, like the dad just shows up at Jespers office and is like "it's time to go" but instead it's the same thing as any other reveal. "How could you? You lied to us!" It's so pointless. Like, what are they gonna do? Rip all the decorations down and take back all the presents from the kids? You idea of having it so they instead thank him for selfish yet helpful motives and action's would've been brilliant. Maybe his girlfriend being mad at first for feeling betrayed would make sense but then Klaus steps in to stand up and thank Jesper. Still, cliche tropes aside, great movie and great review.
I also don't get why Alva was so mad, she was literally doing the exact same thing as Jesper for the same reason. And it's not like he's still in it to just get out, he probably wouldn't go as far to try and make toys on his own time if that was the case.
@@MasuxAnderson you could make the argument that she at least kept to herself instead of using the kids and town. All in all though, I think it's a pointless conflict. I wish western movies took inspiration from anime and had conflicts be just character conflicts instead of stuff like liar revealed. Because as I was watching the movie I was thoroughly enjoying Jespers growth but my enjoyment comes to a halt as soon as the town's leaders showed upon screen. It would've been different if for instance they tried to ruin Jesper and his efforts at every turn only to realize that it was pointless as their traditions was being buried by kindness and goodwill.
One thing that I did really enjoy about this movie was the fact that one of it's tropes, the 'sent somewhere until you can achieve something', was done slightly different. In nearly every version of this, the sufferer has had to stand up to the person who sent them there in the first place. However, this isn't really the case in Klaus? Jesper's dad has to ask him about it and is remarkably understanding and is super supportive of his desire to stay, so it's such a nice change! We're growing into the time when parents need to actually listen to their kids and be supportive of them wanting to grow, not the child having to break all contact with their parents when it does come time for them to leave the nest
Just saw this movie very recently and it was amazing! Aside from that STUPID clichéd moment, I loved just about everything from this movie, from the character interactions and expressive animation, to the gorgeous textures and environments, and the very creative take on Santa's origin. Your take on the 'liar revealed' scene would've been so much better btw. And yes, Margu was one of the most adorable characters in animation.
That town was low key Lovecraft cathulu worshippers and the hatred was the only thing keeping the old one at bay ,now his 100 years of waking up is at hand
I agree with the liar reveal ending was very bad Plus when they listed what he’s done it was actually good stuff that helped the other characters Like helping the kids go to school/having the kids help the town Idk i never got it
I really appreciate the fact that you said "Norm Macdonald" and not "Mogens" because let's be real here: Norm just plays himself in every single role he's done
I won't fight you! So adorable, I found that it was refreshing the representation. Hope you have a great start on the new year, since hindsight is 2020 XD
@@amycruzcuevas6426 theres a book series that the mpvie was based off on that shows the origin stories and an in depth of the golden age and dark ages mentioned by the movie
I had just learned how to draw good human anatomy. Then I saw this movie’s trailer and how interesting cartoony characters could look. I then proceeded to try out drawing with a more cartoony art style. Now I’ve forgotten everything I learned about anatomy and all my characters will forever have noodle bodies. This is a curse, but a welcome one.
I was divided on this one. The animation and voice-cast were stellar, but a lot of the jokes don't land which is a problem when inspiring laughter is one of the main goals of the film. However, the last line of dialogue, which I won't spoil for those of you who haven't watched the film, touched my heart in the way that we say Christmas specials do but which we rarely actually experience for ourselves.
I finally saw this movie, and I loved it. I did not have a problem with the "Liar Revealed" trope here because it worked for me. Klaus directly asked what Jesper was getting out of it, and they were interrupted by an ambush. Klaus mentioned doing a Christmas thing next year, and Jesper was trying to tell him there might not be a next year for them, but Klaus was so preoccupied with everything. Alva told Jesper she spent all of the money she saved because she no longer wanted to leave, and she spoke over him to show him why she changed her mind. The 6,000 letter goal was right there on the wall. The feuding families saw it and pretty much knew that was the way to get rid of him. The postman's goal is done, so he would no longer have a reason to stay. All of that was character development for Jesper in order to get him to change the same way that the community had. It was necessary for the story they were telling. And like when Jesper asks if the whole chase with the decoy presents wasn't worth it, Klaus says he "wouldn't say that". Because all of those sequences of events eventually led to the feud ending.
I really like your take on how "a liar revealed" could have gone, with Klaus and others being understanding and thankful to Jesper for his time and effort. Then that kindness weighing on his decision to leave vs stay. It's still my favorite recent Christmas movie, but that would have been a thematic improvement for sure.
The only thing i’m gonna say is that i cried like a baby when the grown ups started acting kindly prompted by the children. That hit me like a goddamn train.
The Saami girl literally melted my heart anytime she was on screen
She has a face like that girl on Lilo & Stitch.
me tooooo she was so wholesome and adorable
Dr. Hemlock i read that as salami
MÁRGU GANG
She made the movie melt my heart as well as more of its characters like the titular deurotagonist, Jesper (we really love his maturing from a pampered rich boy to a guy who lives alone in terms of his warm home and with his new very reformed friends from Smeerensburg like ambitious schoolteacher Alva and the list goes on)!
To be fair, when Klaus said "A selfless act inspired another" he did not know about Jasper's true intentions. So in his mind, it really was selfless.
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I think it was about how adults in the town also started being nice to each other alongside with children, ever though they didn't get any toys. Like where one lady gifted a jam after kids harvested berries and other lady made her a pie in response. And grumpy old man that injured a leg and got helped by kids then constructed a playground
Personally, one of the most amusing things in the movie was the friendship that grew out of pure one-upmanship.
lexington762 yes that what I think it was just I’m better no I’m better yeah I kinda like you now
Ah, the South
Carmela Hunter I never knew sometimes to feel so true like what you have just stated right here.
Just like real life.
That’s a valid point
Thank you for your kind words, I worked on this movie for a bit more than a year and it is incredibly gratifying to see the positive response to our work. Your idea about the liar reveal trope is interesting but tbh it was so hard to imagine the final outcome while we were making the movie that I think most of us were just surprised that it actually worked as a whole when we saw the final product :)
I think this scene is intended more as an emotional climax rather than a believable plot point, and in that regard I think it is really effective! It was for me at least, even though I knew the story by heart haha
@samuel smith I just want you to know, you had a hand in creating one of my new favorite Christmas movies. This is an instant classic that simultaneously breaks and warms the deepest parts of my heart. You are an artist and you worked in the company of artists and I wish you all the merriest of Christmas’s
I just saw your film this year and I was blown away. It’s clear that the film is one that focuses on the emotions more than anything and has a very fun story! You and your team did an excellent job. The end of the film makes me want to cry and I can’t even put my finger on why! The music, the bittersweet ending...idk it’s just so great! I haven’t seen an animated film like this one in a long time (though I’ve seen many incredible ones) this was so original and you should be so proud for making a new Christmas classic!
I saw this film for the first time this year and I was blown away by it. I’m certain this is going to be a Christmas classic
Yes this movie is one of my new favorite Christmas movies and I would like to thank you very much for helping to make it as well! Thank you for all your hard work it was definitely worth it!
Sir, let me just say. Last year i watched your movie, and it freaking blew me away. With the animation, the setting, the characters...just everything about it was incredible. You have made some FINE work that may just go down in history
A Santa movie that focuses on Santa's human characteristics, such as his love of crafting? And an alternate folklore? Wow, and it looks amazing!
Oh it's an absolute delight.
Go watch it!
@@JamesLawner I don't have Netflix, or I probably would. :)
I think the character works best when they focus on what makes him who he is as opposed to just who he is, pretty much all of his representation in this film and scene with him and Jack frost in the workshop where he shows the wonder he sees in the world and how to him Christmas is about sharing that.
@@PhazonOmega i watched it on fmovies you can also watch netflix shows there too
I think the whole "a selfless act spurs on another" in context of the film is more about how you can start doing good things for selfish reasons but if you do it enough it'll become second nature to you and you'll start actually acting selflessly like how Vesper starts the whole Santa thing to get more letters but ultimately continues it because of the joy it brings to children and how it improves the town.
Virtue is shown as habitual not unlike Aristotelian virtue ethics.
Goodness doesn't always have to start from the heart essentially
Essentially if you fake being a good person for long enough, you eventually genuinely become what you pretend to be.
@@troodon1096 the hard part now, is to convince others that you've changed
@@LineOfThy Well said.
ok fine i’ll stay up for eleven more minutes
YESSS same
Well...
...It's actually a little over 12 minutes.
I'm not sorry.
So will i
12 not 11
Put it on 2X speed
Actually, I see Klaus’ childish moment as “Dammit, you’re making the plan more complicated than it needs to be.” I personally found it funny, but I can see how it can be annoying.
Well it WAS funny, but yeah it can also be viewed as annoying
Is it me or is the reason Klaus, Alva, etc. rejected Jesper in the liar revealed moment near the end of the movie just so they could keep up the fake toys act?
I think you are absolutely right. That's why they completely treated him normally after the sled chase as if nothing had even happened.
That's how I viewed it too
I'm more disturbed that they had this whole fake toy setup without letting Jesper in on the idea. Like, Jesper's the second in command on this whole thing. Why doesn't he know?
KeiRo Multiverse maybe they were worried he'd accidentally blow their cover when threatened
@@steampunk-llama yeah, like he could talk the whole thing while scared.
I wish they had committed to the ‘twist’.
Imagine how much stronger the ending would have been if the kids woke up and there were no toys.
No toys, and it seems like they’re going to go back to their old ways immediately, but then it cuts to them giving their toys to each other. They realise maybe Mr. Klaus is overworked, it’s unfair of them to expect him to do so much, and they can look out for each other. Maybe some have even tried their hands at making toys themselves, PROVING the heads of the feuding families wrong when they say the children are just being bribed.
Wow I really like this, fanfiction.net here i come
That sounds so good!
I mean, it is a Santa Claus origin story.
I like this idea, this will add up to the Secret Santa christmas tradition.
@@pauielicious4433 Secret Santa or even just gift-giving in general. ArtistsicPixie and pauie licious, I applaud both of you for coming up with a better twist to this movie and finding a way to tie it into current traditions.
I feel like your point about “selflessness” is kinda askew, given as you mention it’s just a case of poor wording...but “selfless” *isn’t* the word the movie chooses to use. It’s an act of goodwill, which TOTALLY fits what the kids (and especially the adults later) are doing.
The Ponderer yeah, I feel like they overlooked it. Kinda took away the act of goodwill aspect that the movie tried to put forward.
yeah Klaus said "an act of kindess always sparks another" doesn't mean it cant be selfish at times
What they said in the movie changed from time to time.
Sometimes it was "A true selfless act always Sparks another" or "a true act of Goodwill always Sparks another" or I think there was another one but I don't remember.
The Ponderer good point!
@@TiffanyRay No act of kindness is selfless, we get satisfaction from doing a kind act. We are very selfish creatures, if we weren't selfish, we wouldn't move a single finger. The moment you are born, you only think about yourself. Empathy is just the ability to put yourself into someone else's shoes. AKA, what would you feel if you were that person, putting yourself before them. By no means, being selfish is bad, because of that we can do kind acts.
I agree about the Jasper's plan reveal. I literally shrugged and thought, "Oh no, a selfish intention literally fixed an entire town's problems and made children happy. What an awful person Jasper is"
If there’s something I’ve learnt from The Good Place, good deeds are only truly good with true motivations.
2 top comments, what a god
Im sorry to be pedantic but his name is jesper
@coisas /m\ Being a good person doesn't really matter if it changes everyone's lives for the better. There are plenty of great deeds done by less than great people. That does not mean those people did not help everyone else out.
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming at the beginning children’s happiness was only a plus...the letters is what he was going for. So is not really a good deed...think of tangled were her mother (kidnapper) locked her in a towel and took care of her but for the purpose of using her hair to her young...that wasn’t a good deed she saw what he wanted and it just happened that she needed to raise her too
I think Todd in the shadows said it best: “At the end of the day, I’ll take an insincere display of charity over a sincere display of apathy every single time.”
I remember he said this, but I don't remember what video or why...
Right on!
It was probably from the We Are The World 25 video.
Yeah!
Or in other words: "A good action backed by bad intentions is better than a bad action backed by good intentions."
11:47 "Márgu is a million times cuter than Baby Yoda, fight me!"
Oh, I will. I will fight.
*I'll be fighting alongside you.*
Thank god
Count me in!!! Margu for life
Not a million times cuter
A billion times
Yaaaaassssssss... :D
Yes
"Tradition: Peer pressure from dead people" I using that on my family. It's going to be beautiful.
Family founder: "Do it! You won't. Only a REAL MAN/WOMAN would and I don't see any here..."
Tradition isn't THAT bad; it keeps us connected with our ancestry, has some nice historical info behind them and feels much more wholesome than whatever's "trending" out there.
I'll give you a great example; on Thanksgiving, three out of the four people in my home LOVE eating turkey (among other things at the table.)
Whereas my sister claims we should make a "new tradition," one that involves eating pizza on Thanksgiving instead. Naturally, the three of us shoot down the idea; proclaiming that while it's tasty, pizza doesn't mesh well with the rest of the feast
Ah shiny thief. It's been a while. You may remember me from the ds desert map. I lost that match. I want my bloody shine star back
Traditions are fine and all, but they do need to be re-evaluated from time to time. Especially if they become harmful or have lost their meaning.
@@mondenkindqueen Good idea
I feel like Celly missed Jespers arc. His arc wasn't about learning to appreciate his community but about growing up. If you need convincing then think about hos he started the movie as a spoiled brat and ended up as a husband and father of two.
It can be both. No need to reduce the movie to one specific message.
Mogens was by far my favorite character in the film. He's a man who knows where his place in the world is: Ferrying people and supplies to an island, and messing with city slickers in over their heads.
Niiiiice
I see dirk strider 👀
fitting, since Dirk pfp
Add to the fact he's voiced by Norm MacDonald and that makes him one of my favourites, along with his jabs at Jesper and enjoying his suffering...then getting his father to help him by getting him to talk and reveal he wants to stay.
Are we starting to connect the dots?
"The selfless act" is just how we envision a perfect world. Is not necessarily something we can achieve but an idea we should strive for.
Thats beautiful
This is so good. ♥️
I'm starting to wish that the liar revealed was done the way you said it.
@@renaesenton8306 I still like the movie. It's cute.
@@renaesenton8306 I know
She was not wrong about the climax it could have been done in a better way but dang it was still beautiful
Yeah while the liar revealed trope was so overused but the movie was really good for me so I was mostly able to look over it.
Me too man
Here's how I would have done the "liar revealed" thing:
Jesper's dad: Time to go home son.
Jesper: I appreciate the offer, Dad, but I'd rather stay here.
Agreed. The whole thing of "time to go" ..."you're leaving and you LIED to us?!?" And then the "nope! I didnt leave!" Is an absolute rehash of.....how many fucking Disney tropes?? Fml. There are more ways to write the ending ffsn
Ivy White well.... he did work for Disney during the renaissance
@@bandashee tropes exist for a reason, every single movie doesn’t need to subvert expectations. Klaus knows the story it wanted to tell, and executed it perfectly. It’s a modern classic.
I mean...it’s not like Jesper did a complete 180 in character. He did still have some of his spoiled habits and the whole stay-or-go decision was forced on him without giving him much time to process or consider, so I can kinda see why he didn’t immediately reject his dad’s invitation to leave.
@@kinjorex101 that’s exactly what I was thinking too. He was still dreaming about those silk sheets & the luxury of his old life that they represented bc he had planned to return to it eventually. As you said he didn’t have much time to think it over at first but the walk to the boats was enough time for him to realize he wanted to stay.
As someone who's applying to school of visualarts for animation I studied THE HELL out of this film and watching all of the behind the scenes. Wonderful Film.
Yeah , i wish there would be more of those !
@@vladvlad11299 there can be and there must certainly are it's just a matter of getting public attention.
@@Thechaosprime Hopefully Netflix decides to continue supporting this kind of movies. Who knows, maybe other streaming companies may even follow this trend.
@@MaylocBrittinorum the more the variety the better
@@Thechaosprime i dont think 2D will ever have a comeback , but i still want to see how animators are experimental with 2D
For 75% of the movie, all I was thinking was "My GOD, he is SUCH a Kusco!"
Yupp he reminds me of kuzco ALOT and klaus was like a patcha. Besides the creator of this film used to work for Disney back in the 2000s
@Jack Hillman No I did not! Thank you for that info.
@Jack Hillman oh sorry but that’s not quite right! i thought that as well at first because they really do sound similar, but i looked it up and jesper is voiced by jason schwartzman whereas kuzco is voiced by david spade.
First thing that came into my mind when they introduced his character
Screw it, I'm gonna say it
Margu is the cutest animated character of all time. With Wall-e and Toothless on its heels
Yeah, I can't really argue.
@Massive Legend
You’re not wrong :>
Yeah moment i saw her I gushed!
@@Rakushun88 Thats like.... your opinion man :p
Stitch tho. Stich is up there.
Klaus, to me, is Netflix’s Spiderverse.
Amongst the subpar and terrible cartoons they (not necessarily) made, this was a breath of fresh air to new and great things they can hopefully distribute more of!
Even if the movie isn’t as good as spider verse.
Klaus: Aka Emperors new Groove: Christmas Edition
Jasper as Kuzko, Klaus as Pacha, the old lady as Yzma XD
The back and forth between jasper and mogens reminded me a lot of kuzko and pacha
Lol that's why Klaus is my fav xD
@Nathaniel Foga
I actually considered that film as a cross between Santa Claus is Comin' to Town and the Emperor's New Groove.
Yes
I believe Klaus is the best Christmas movie of all time.
Best ANIMATED Christmas movie, maybe, yeah. (Think I'd still give the nod to "Arthur Christmas", but both are excellent.) But sorry, "A Christmas Story" is the greatest Christmas movie of all time in my world. :)
@@alexboon9035 That's fine since not all people have to have the same opinion on everything.
I’ll play devil’s advocate for a sec and throw out the fact that Klaus has nothing to do with what the holiday is traditionally about, so could it be the best “Christmas” movie?
Yeah wish the whole liar revealed thing ended differently; I go nuts when a film/book takes the road less traveled and doesn’t have everyone go ballistic and get mad.
For the longest time, I used to hold Arthur Christmas the best Christmas movie spot. (Never found A Christmas Story to be fun to rewatch.) I think it's time to give up the mantel to Klaus, (I only found out about it now.)
@Elalae La you mean the 6 hour nutcracker?
Oh my gosh THAT'S why the character designs were so great!
the fact that the dad was genuinely full of love for his son and was proud of him for his acts was a breath of fresh air
i’ve watched this movie three times, one of my favourite animated movies
Yep
Mortal
Ha I watched it 7 times
Jose Garcia *Gives crown*
11....
Margu is adorable, imma slap anyone that doesn't like that innocent little one!!!!
We need Margu Plushies now!
When she said that Margo was cuter than baby yoda, reminded me of my english teacher who showed us this movie and said the same thing but without the fight me part.
Edit: neat, My comment past 69, 420 and 666. I call that an achievement.
Because there's no reason to fight; Margu is objectively the cutest and most adorable character created this last year.
OBJECTIIIIIVVE!?
@José Manuel Blanco Goldar
Yeah! :3
baby yoda creeps me out
I would gladly take a bullet for baby yoda. He may not be the best meme ever but I still love him to bits. However Margu also is great, so how about we meetca compromise. Both are great.
I didn't mind the "spoiled city kid sent to the boonies" plot in this film, mostly because it did put a bit of a twist on it. Most of the time when a movie has this plot the town/residents are already really great (if odd), and the main character has to have it repeatedly hammered home that a simple life is better/more meaningful than their old life in the city.
This movie had the town be terrible, giving Jesper a legitimate reason to want to leave, and it focused on how Jesper and Klaus changed the town for the better instead of getting him to see how great it is. I found that oddly refreshing.
Also, with jasper using the kids for letters, it goes to show he can have some skills when motivated. Beginning he was lazy, but with motivation, he can commit. Later on, he even goes above and beyond without gaining anything with that margu kid
Klaus: **exists**
My wallpaper: *it's a real estate*
Someone PLEASE tell me where I can download scene shots from Klaus to put as my phone screen. They're so beautiful 😭😭
@@k.t.4613 just screen shot them :P
*exists
FUCKING HELL, WE ARE STILL DOING THIS!?
@@originaluseername thanks
@@k.t.4613 go to google lmao, its not that hard
One of my favorite moments from the movie is when the Sami tribe and jasper are putting the wooden figures in the little place that Klaus and his wife had made for them and future children. The expression they give Klaus as he sees all the little wooden figures, realizing that this IS his family, is so touching.
Alva’s great. I’ll hear no dismissing of Alva.
Amen brotha
I was struck by how she's probably the first animated character where l noticed just how much *volume* was in her hair. Seriously, that's some *beautiful* hair!
She could become good waifu
@@TheDanishGuyReviews have you watched Brave?
Girl's got a glorious curly redhead hair forest :)
The Ponderer Every scene of fishmonger Alva is SOO SMOOTHLY ANIMATED Its literal eye candy for me
Also adding that a lot of amazing retired Disney animators worked on this. John Pomeroy (lead animator for John Smith, Milo Thatch, and cofounder of Don Bluth Studios) for example was the head animator of Jesper
I knew i felt a disney feel to this movie
He also used his similar animation style for Jesper as Dr. Doppler from Treasure Planet which is the nail on the head confirmation it was indeed from a Disney animator
Green eggs and ham 2019 and this Klaus 2019 is awesome to see tradition 2D hand drawing animation make a return in 2019 and more in the future in 2020
I hope for more 2d animation too.
I think we need just more variety in general as well not just more 2d animation but also more variety in stuff like genres, tones, settings, character types and styles (theres a lot of areas lacking in variety in western animation lately especially animated movies in my opinion)
I love both the Klaus movie and Green Eggs and Ham series (I would like to who ever made that series adapt the other Seuss books next, especially the Lorax)
Mystic System yes! Also maybe a Lorax remake might fix the god awful 2012 adaptation
@@majamystic256 i can see new original 2D animation more genre in 2020 i hyped for it
Atleast we bare bears is a popular thing.
@@mochiloki Have you seen the 1972 version? it's very good
The biggest thing I love about this movie is that it doesn’t resort to “Santa is magical” like almost every other Santa origin story.
Until the end but in my opinion that was a nice twist
@@kishinasura1989 but its not a "magic" did by Klaus. The movie try to make the death beautiful
and emotional.
Sooo yeah, the "Santa is *not* magical"
LOL, I described this movie to my friends as this, "Imagine if instead of being turned into a llama, Kuzco was exiled to an isolated northern town with an ultimatum." And then you flash Emperor's New Groove on the screen and I'm like, yep, I'm not the only one who sees it.
You're right. For the first few minutes of the film I was thinking "Ok, this guy is just a Kuzco-like copycat" and I started to lose interest since I already figured out that at the end he would become a selfless person because the trope demanded it. As much as people praise this movie, the tropes it uses are so overdone I can't really enjoy it. For a movie that tried to bring back 2d animation, I feel like they should've worked more on making the story unique, maybe create twists on the clichés, but they didn't even try.
Story may be a bit cliched sure, but I think it's pacing more than makes up for it. That, and the movie is just so genuinely charming.
Ok I was just about to say “Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people” and then you did it
To a degree, you're right...but not all tradition is evil
sadlobster1
Yea but in movies traditions are usually bad things so that’s why I say it’s peer pressure from dead people
@@gameknight9956 When you put it THAT way, you're right.
I suppose it all comes down to balancing tradition with modern culture. "We cannot forget who we are or where we come from," as the Emperor Meji said in Last Samurai
sadlobster1 yea that’s a nice thought
@@gameknight9956 Thank you, the quote I mentioned is one of my favorites from Last Samurai
Teared up when the teacher shows the kids how to write their names.
this is the perfect video to end 2019 with, you have no idea how long i wanted you do review this movie. keep up the amazing work!
I think the mutual relationship between the warring families is almost like a sort of Power ensurer. As long as there's always conflict, they're always in control.
Who uploads a movie review at 3am?
Cellspex: Oh boy 3am!
Underrated comment. Yet we will always be right on time
It works of me for I am usually some between 6 to 12 hrs ahead of the UA-cam creators. Time Zones
Bruh what you mean, it’s like 5pm
Have you heard of time zones.
Instead of commenting, you should be doing your taxes.
When the lier reveal went over, I thought the characters just acted upset towards him so he wouldn't ruin their secret plan. An act
But this is my new favorite Christmas movie
W h e r e I s m y d a m n f r o z e n 2
Celly: ah, so you choose pain, I
I see.
As a young mailman I can say this will forever be a yearly watch for me.
Princess tiana is one of 5 princesses with an actual attitude and personality, so damn the animation I love her 😍 regardless lol 😂
Elsa isn’t like that much, until Frozen 2.
@@renaesenton8306 true, "father wanting to protect the child from the outside world and daughter rebeling and wanting to see it" is already a cliche
@@renaesenton8306 Tina doesn't really have that rebellious personally though, Tina's personally at the start of the movie is more of a workaholic and the only change she wants is to own her own restaurant.
Ariel is actually the princess I feel like fits the best with the whole rebel and change, she literally rebels her father's wishes changes from fish person to land dweller.
All the princess are somewhat rebellious one way or another because that personally type appeals to young girls.
Repunzal is rebellious in that she wants to go outside and disobey Mother Gothal, which is what you describe but it's done very well.
Mulan doesn't fit her family's expectations and pretends to be a man to take the place of her father in the war.
Pocahontas goes against her society's/fathers expectations.
Belle and her father is strange to the town's people around her and go against what is normal.
Anna is quirky/goofy and wants to find love, but she's not rebellious and is just lonely.
Haven't seen Moana so I can't say anything about her.
Cinderella is passive, but she's still has a bit of spice compared to the next two.
Princess Aurora only has 18 lines of dialogue, so she's like Snow white who's personally is basically just sweet and kind.
Shennaine She's also modeled on a real-life person, too.
@@Liz-mp5dq Aurora is a side character, the movie is clearly about the prince and maleficent (and their battle).
Also, if 2010s is the decade where CG Animation peaked, I hope 2020s is the decade that revives 2D animation
god, i hope so
Probably not though.
Princess and the frog suffered from two things:
1) Disney's own self-sabotaging, by marketing 3d animation as the "new best thing", despite the fact that animation-wise, the 2D animation of the 90's and early 2000's was absolutely stunning and I would argue, visually superior to anything made in 3D, to this very day. Disney basically WANTED 2D to fail. And because Disney basically has a monopoly at this point, there is nothing that could be done about it. Kids are eager to follow the new hype and stick to their own stupidity, and parents don't give a crap so long as it keeps their brats quiet. Behold, the death of art through industry.
2) Princess and the Frog is a mediocre film in terms of story-telling. It's villain is uninteresting and is barely in the movie to begin with, the main character is basically perfect in every single way, and the only one that goes on an actual character arc is the male frog. There is barely any heart in the film, other than the music.
If Disney wanted to test out 2D animation, P&TF was the worst choice.
So my guess is that no, 2D animation will not make a comeback if Disney maintains their practical if not theorectical monopoly of western animation. Given how willing Disney has shown itself to simply milk a franchise into the ground with live-action remakes that lack any and all creative integrity, it would be naïve to think they would have the artistic integrity to bring back some actual creative vision.
Oh well, at least there is still anime, though Japanese studios are going through a horrible phase of capitalist greed as well. Hard to find a single studio that isn't grasping for financial aid at this point. Ugly-ass CGI stiffness seems to have become the norm. We can also thank pirating for that.
@@RedFloyd469 But now, with movies/series like this, Into the Spider-Verse, Arcane and She-Ra, one can hope... (all with different but unique styles)
Anyone else thought Klaus was the prequel to Rise of the Guardians?
YES
That would be cool, but in the books Santa is a badass former Russian mercenary... Don't take that from me
geardog24 he does look like the Santa from Rise of the Guardians
@@akinmytua4680 Cossacks and Mercenaries are not the same thing.
Yeah. Even my mom thought this was Santa Klaus’ prequel backstory.
3:00 why does the mouth movement lime up perfectly with the commentary so well here
wait what
You know you have made a visually stunning movie when people can’t tell wether the movie is 2d or 3D
The liar revealed wasn't....revealed enough. Idk how they didn't already know he was doing this for a reason. And when they did find out it was to appease his dad and go home, why were they so mad? Sad? Sure. Disappointed? Perhaps. Mad that he wasn't going to help with the obligation of the final deliveries? Maybe. But mad he was leaving at all?? The girl wanted to leave for 5 years, and i honestly thought Klaus had figured it out in the "everyone's doing it for something" talk
Other than that tho? Honestly amazing and the first bit of style inspiration for my senior film in Animation school.
I wish that, instead of being fully mad, they just would be mad at start, then Jesper explain everything to them, they undertand, his father kinda convinces him to go back home, everything like the movie, except that the toys are really THE toys.
So, they spend the rest of the night making new toys for the kids. Continue as normal the movie.
I knoe it's sucks but it's something.
Why isn’t anyone understanding that they weren’t mad he left they were mad because they thought he was only doing it for the letters. Which he was at the beginning but as progress went on he had a change in heart. That’s why they were mad.
@@bethanyhaslam7239 I understand THAT they were mad; what I don't understand is the WHY, because that reason makes no sense. Even if he did it for entirely selfish reasons, they were still better off for him having done it. It's not like anyone was harmed by his actions, regardless of his motivations.
@@troodon1096 A good act becomes bad when you have the wrong motivations.
@@troodon1096they are mad at him because they thought he was doing all this because he cared (which he did) but the town leaders made it seem like he only was doing it so he could go back to privileged life which is what he originally intended. He always wanted leave the town just not as much near the end until the ride to boat made him he wanted to stay. It isn’t that hard to understand.
This movie will definitely go down as a classic.
This movie is absolutely gorgeous. Despite it's downfalls, it's animation and general plot trumps them. Anyone who has Netflix should watch this
Spider-Verse and Klaus have to be my top favorite movies
Honestly same. I hope to see more of this next gen animation. You know, apart from spider-verse 2 in 2022.
Nah, that spot will forever belong to Beauty and the Beast. The original theatrical cut, not the extended DVD one with the extra song and bad color matching.
Klaus and Spider-verse is really good though... They're in my top 10.
@@Mhidraum I respect that opinion.
Marhesi bruh Sergio Pablos ( the director to Klaus) literally worked on Beauty and the Beast lol
Same though. Though Tangled as well for me because it's my favorite animated movie of all time and has been since it came out
Don't you love how when Margo cried, she held her arms straight up in order to cover each of her giant eyes? XDDD
When I saw Smirensburg, my first thought was “I bet this is cthulu’s favorite vacation spot!”
While i agree it’s highly overused and cliche, the idea of the “Liar revealed” trope i think has less to do with the reveal, but the point is more about the emotional betrayal
From knowing someone you care about and or who means something to you, abused your trust, lied and or manipulated you.
if you look at it in those terms i have less problems with the trope, being as the point is that the turmoil comes from knowing someone you care about didn’t respect you and or was using you
which can be hurtful and make people dismissive.
Now again the issue is its so cliche and often had assed and or not given proper weight that it falls flat
one good example is How to Train your dragon, when Stoick learns that hiccup has been keeping toothless
and he disowns him, when he leaves the hut you see him stagger and his facial features react as we see him contemplate what he’s just done, and it gives the entire thing a different feel and weight to it other than
“you lied to me”
Finally, someone used the “tradition” joke from fiddler on the roof. Dang, I love that movie.
aaaah Margu...shattered my heart to a million pieces when she went after Jesper.
I watched this on Christmas day and freakin loved it, I was getting tired of 'it's a wonderful life' and y'know 'die-hard'.
Dan Traverse the hog father is another Christmas movie you could give a try (and it’s on youtube!) tho I’m uncertain if it has the holiday spirit, or just the trappings. It does have a subplot about family, but it takes a backseat to the main discussion of belief and how belief evolves (and how belief works in a world where the stuff you believe in is real). It’s a great fun either way :)
Try out Arthur Christmas it's a great movie and I loved it when I saw it finally this year alongside Klaus
I think with even some faults, Klaus is one of those movies like Arthur Christmas that will be forever in peoples hearts because it is such a universally understood film that people can relate to it. I think it’s on the same level as Arthur’s Christmas and that I could see it being played in homes every year because of its simple message that does need to be said for everyone to hear.
*Just by looking at it now*
I can already tell I'm gonna enjoy it
Oh my God you are! I've watched it like 3 times ( no lie ) it's so funny and great
I'm so happy you mentioned Arthur Christmas because that and Klaus are my favourite christmas movies
_"The main reason why Santa is so jolly because he knows where all the bad girls live."_
*~ George Carlin*
“I’ve been looking forward to this”
-Count Dooku
Leave. Just. Leave.
Oh lord
Wrong movie idiot
No. Just... No.
*I like to believe Klaus at the end became a guardian by moon*
*gasp* Rise of the Guardians reference!?
@santiago.j.mancilla.perez1022
Absolutely
I agree pretty much 100% with what you've said. From the emperor's new groove to the comparison's to the dogtor from treasure planet the cliche liar revealed trope and your idea to change that. You've also brilliantly described thing's I didn't take into account, like the town being a character.
Anyone who's seen movies dating from at least the 80's to the 90's knows all to well the liar revealed trope and knew it was coming in Klaus. I was hoping that it would be such a non-issue for this movie, like the dad just shows up at Jespers office and is like "it's time to go" but instead it's the same thing as any other reveal. "How could you? You lied to us!" It's so pointless. Like, what are they gonna do? Rip all the decorations down and take back all the presents from the kids?
You idea of having it so they instead thank him for selfish yet helpful motives and action's would've been brilliant. Maybe his girlfriend being mad at first for feeling betrayed would make sense but then Klaus steps in to stand up and thank Jesper.
Still, cliche tropes aside, great movie and great review.
I also don't get why Alva was so mad, she was literally doing the exact same thing as Jesper for the same reason. And it's not like he's still in it to just get out, he probably wouldn't go as far to try and make toys on his own time if that was the case.
@@MasuxAnderson you could make the argument that she at least kept to herself instead of using the kids and town.
All in all though, I think it's a pointless conflict. I wish western movies took inspiration from anime and had conflicts be just character conflicts instead of stuff like liar revealed. Because as I was watching the movie I was thoroughly enjoying Jespers growth but my enjoyment comes to a halt as soon as the town's leaders showed upon screen. It would've been different if for instance they tried to ruin Jesper and his efforts at every turn only to realize that it was pointless as their traditions was being buried by kindness and goodwill.
One thing that I did really enjoy about this movie was the fact that one of it's tropes, the 'sent somewhere until you can achieve something', was done slightly different. In nearly every version of this, the sufferer has had to stand up to the person who sent them there in the first place. However, this isn't really the case in Klaus? Jesper's dad has to ask him about it and is remarkably understanding and is super supportive of his desire to stay, so it's such a nice change! We're growing into the time when parents need to actually listen to their kids and be supportive of them wanting to grow, not the child having to break all contact with their parents when it does come time for them to leave the nest
It's amazing to hear from you again before the new decade Spex!
EVERYTIME a movie creator refuses to put their movies on a steaming site, bootleg grows stronger
Just saw this movie very recently and it was amazing! Aside from that STUPID clichéd moment, I loved just about everything from this movie, from the character interactions and expressive animation, to the gorgeous textures and environments, and the very creative take on Santa's origin.
Your take on the 'liar revealed' scene would've been so much better btw.
And yes, Margu was one of the most adorable characters in animation.
Buuuut he didn't lie actually
That town was low key Lovecraft cathulu worshippers and the hatred was the only thing keeping the old one at bay ,now his 100 years of waking up is at hand
Idk, I thought Klaus’s pouting during the action climax was hilarious. Especially the second time around.
This movie made me burst into tears at one point, audibly sobbing. Such a tender, wholesome and lovely story. I felt so warm afterwards.
I agree with the liar reveal ending was very bad
Plus when they listed what he’s done it was actually good stuff that helped the other characters
Like helping the kids go to school/having the kids help the town
Idk i never got it
I honestly don't know why he didn't just revealed his motives from the get-go. It could have made all those relationships stronger.
Fermin Tenava exactly
Eh, its a christmas movie cliche. Some kind of betrayal then they make up and get a happy ending.
Still love the movie like no other
7yrsof Blood I do understand where your coming from
@@fermintenava5911 people in reality would actually do it
I really appreciate the fact that you said "Norm Macdonald" and not "Mogens" because let's be real here: Norm just plays himself in every single role he's done
7:23 I actually didn't know that, touche.
This film is perfect, the music, comedy, animation and the most beautiful message ever. Honestly it’s now my favourite Christmas film :)
I won't fight you! So adorable, I found that it was refreshing the representation.
Hope you have a great start on the new year, since hindsight is 2020 XD
Are you a fellow Scandi? Godt nytår!
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WE ALL KNOW THE KID WHO GOT THE TOY FROG IS CUTER THAN BABY YODA
Out of curiosity, how did you feel when Klaus "returned to his love"? My mom started crying, I felt hollow yet glad, how did you feel?
Disappointed that you didn’t mention how the ending with Klaus passing was totally a nod to Rise of the Guardians
I need more rise of the guardians in my life
@@Hal.Overcaffeinated Have you read the book series?
Wait what?
@@amycruzcuevas6426 theres a book series that the mpvie was based off on that shows the origin stories and an in depth of the golden age and dark ages mentioned by the movie
@@juniemunie2931 Oof ima read the books then, do you know what's the name?
I had just learned how to draw good human anatomy. Then I saw this movie’s trailer and how interesting cartoony characters could look. I then proceeded to try out drawing with a more cartoony art style. Now I’ve forgotten everything I learned about anatomy and all my characters will forever have noodle bodies. This is a curse, but a welcome one.
I don't even care about the problems, as an animator I'm in love with the lights and shadows.
I cried so much during this movie, of the 30 movies I have seen of 2019 it is easily in my top 5, I LOVE THIS MOVIE!
I was divided on this one. The animation and voice-cast were stellar, but a lot of the jokes don't land which is a problem when inspiring laughter is one of the main goals of the film.
However, the last line of dialogue, which I won't spoil for those of you who haven't watched the film, touched my heart in the way that we say Christmas specials do but which we rarely actually experience for ourselves.
Its 1 am im trying to buy a house and your over here posting a video
Mad respect
I had to pause this to check if Playmobil: the movie was real lmao
Can’t wait for your Best to Worst video for 2019.
Run Celspex!!! The Screenslaver is after you!!!
Lol
I finally saw this movie, and I loved it.
I did not have a problem with the "Liar Revealed" trope here because it worked for me.
Klaus directly asked what Jesper was getting out of it, and they were interrupted by an ambush.
Klaus mentioned doing a Christmas thing next year, and Jesper was trying to tell him there might not be a next year for them, but Klaus was so preoccupied with everything.
Alva told Jesper she spent all of the money she saved because she no longer wanted to leave, and she spoke over him to show him why she changed her mind.
The 6,000 letter goal was right there on the wall. The feuding families saw it and pretty much knew that was the way to get rid of him. The postman's goal is done, so he would no longer have a reason to stay.
All of that was character development for Jesper in order to get him to change the same way that the community had. It was necessary for the story they were telling.
And like when Jesper asks if the whole chase with the decoy presents wasn't worth it, Klaus says he "wouldn't say that". Because all of those sequences of events eventually led to the feud ending.
I hope this ends up inspiring more films to use this style of Hand-Drawn Animation
I really like your take on how "a liar revealed" could have gone, with Klaus and others being understanding and thankful to Jesper for his time and effort. Then that kindness weighing on his decision to leave vs stay. It's still my favorite recent Christmas movie, but that would have been a thematic improvement for sure.
The only thing i’m gonna say is that i cried like a baby when the grown ups started acting kindly prompted by the children.
That hit me like a goddamn train.
FINALLY saw this last week and adored it. I'm going to add this one to the annual rotation.
You've been teasing us for waaaaay too long with that Bird Boy review, I'd love to see your detailed takes/analysis of it.
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When I watched this, turned from crying of laughter to just crying.
This is my favorite animation
Never gave this movie much thought, you've sold me. I shall watch it. Keep up your beautiful work.