No Track Saw? No Problem! Make Any Circular Saw a Track Saw!
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- Опубліковано 25 лют 2023
- No track saw, no problem! This new Milescraft Track Saw guide system can take any circular saw and turn it into a track saw.
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Just realized this track guide missed the non-sticking surface under the guide. This is a BIG omission. One of the main convenience of current Festools, Makita track saw is their track guide almost has no need to clamp because the non-stick tape in the under side work so well. This makes their tracks so swift to use. I think you should add your own non-sticking tape under this guide. Now I see this guide as a clone of Kreg's saw guide (the part connect to the saw) combined with a clone of other manfacturer's track guides, without understanding their full benefits.
Just a heads up, Amazon says it is, Currently unavailable
How does the saw guide compare to the rip guide which seems to work very similarly but doesn't need to have extra pieces?
I’ve had a cabinet shop for 15 years. Built every jig I have including my router table for cutting my own doors. Easiest track setup in the world is a piece of 1/2” import birch ply, about 8”x 72-96”, and then a piece of 1/2” or 1/4” and rip a 1 1/2-2 1/2” rip. Take your 6-8’ level, lay it on the larger piece and butt the factory edge of the 1/4” piece against the level and secure it to the 1/2”. Run your saw over it and your done. It’s free if you have scrap
Bingo!
I've used my Kreg track jig dozens of times and love it. These things are excellent resources.
Always found Milescraft has the quality without the big price tag. Great products
Totally agree!
Absolutely. I have a bunch of their stuff and none of it has let me down.
@@731Woodworks Mafell includes the caps both sides on every track
I bought something off Amazon and they sent me a blatantly used item. I was pretty upset. Also it didn’t fit my tool so I returned it. I never left a review cuz I thought maybe it was an oversight. I will give them another try but I’m definitely skeptical
@@nonplayablecharacter4815 That's an Amazon issue, not Milescraft.
Thanks for the video. I look forward to videos where you build projects that are possible for the woodworker on a budget and to tool reviews that a weekend woodworker can afford and use. Thanks again.
I've bought a few Milescraft products and I was very happy with the quality. Right now I can't afford a full blown track saw but I'm going to invest in this. It's the perfect solution for in between clamping a straight edge or track saw. Great video and review !
Thank you for sharing this alternative to a full track saw. Stay warm, safe, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
Thanks for the review Matt! A definite improvement over cutting by eye. Those of us who cannot afford a track saw should give it a try! 😊😊😊❤❤
Makita sells track adapters for all their circular saws and they allow you to do bevel cuts, plus the Makita track isn't proprietary so you could get whatever big brand track is on sale.
Your content is very well done and extremely helpful.
Thanks for the confirmation video for this system. I just ordered this system last week. I didn't need to purchase a full track saw as I wanted something to basically breakdown sheet goods for easier cutting on the table saw. I tried a few "cheap" straight edge system and got what I paid for (lesson learned). I will probably buy a new circular saw to dedicate to this system. Thanks for all the good feedback...Blessings
I think I'm going to get this. I break down sheet goods "on site" quite a bit, where I really wouldn't bring a track saw anyway. For a real track saw, I would prefer longer track pieces, for job-site work, the packability of short segments is an advantage.
Dang man, it’s like you’re reading my mind with these videos lately.
Looks like I know what my track saw Setup is going to look like now.
Thanks for the reviews 🤙🏻
I really enjoy your videos. I’m definitely getting this. Because of your video on wood craft in ft worth I went there yesterday. It was so nice to find some of the items you’ve talked about. The store is great. The staff was so gracious in helping me since I’m in an electric chair. Can’t say enough good things about them and your videos. Thank you
Thank you Mr. Buddy!
Will definitely have to take a look at this. I just started my wood working journey and already have an M18 saw this can be used on.
Looks like the old eurekazone smart track system. I had one for years and then gave it to a friend who still uses it. Worked very well for angled cuts and square cuts. Biggest limitation was depth of cut. A normal 7 1/4 inch saw on the base could barely do a 2 by. Really only a problem when cutting something like an exterior door.
One point I didn't hear but is important. The squareness of the cut will only be as accurate as your blade to base plate angle. Most know this but it's worth mentioning for those just getting into this sort of stuff. Always check the blade to base plate accuracy on any skill saw with an accurate square. Make sure it's at 90 degrees, it doesn't take much to move it on many skill type saws. I've seen some that just setting it down a bit too hard moves the base plate (don't ask how I know that for sure).
That is why you get the blade spacer with it. You have to align the blade to that, rather than rely on the saw base plate
Awesome find. Thanks, Matt!
I have 2 55” Makita tracks and the fancy TSO connector. And I found that to get them perfectly aligned, I still rely on an 8’ aluminum level when I’m screwing the connectors down. Lesson is: doesn’t matter if it’s 2 or 4 connectors: get an 8’ aluminum level for alignment.
I love the fact that some non mainstream companies are making it easy and INEXPENSIVE for those of us who can’t drop hundreds of dollars on name brand items.
Festool does have the end guard for the tracks, been available for years and included in the FS/2 angle stop kit that was released about 18 months ago.
I'm a fan of Milescraft. I've purchased two of their products before. Best use I've got out of one of them is the circular cutting with a router jig and it does not disappoint! When I purchased it I was not sure what to expect because of the relative low price I had paid. But it's well worth it!
Aaron my husband got me that same Milescraft circular kit for Christmas but I haven't tried it yet. Good to know it is worth the purchase. I'm still very new to routers and learning how to use them. I also have the double pocket hole jig from Milescraft and like it very much. I just ordered the Milescraft 700 pocket hole screw assortment from Amazon and it was nice with the carry case that comes with it along with two more bits. I really like the star bits over the square that Kreg uses.
Hats off to Dino and his EZ Smart system who pioneered this many years ago
I have 3 Milescraft tools and all 3 are great. Great price, good quality, and never any issues. Plan to buy more from them.
I have an old Craftsman corded track saw. It has been great. Best way to cut down sheets. But it doesn’t get used very much and it wasn’t cheap! If this had been available back then I would definitely gone with it. 👍
I love this, it is a great system. They also have spare parts and replacement edging reasonably priced as I found out after an...ahem...mishap. One thing I wish they (or someone) made was a square attachment.
Ordered through your link, thanks for the video!
The more and more I look at the Milescraft the more and more impressed I am with them. Way under rated and very cost effective. I recently purchased their pocket hole jig and it's been fantastic! I'll likely be picking this up as well. Thanks for the video Matt! 👊🏼
Make sure you use the link in his description so he will get a little something from the purchase
@@woodworkingandepoxy643 I always do. I have no issue with it.
Well this is a game changer! 😳😳 Definitely not bad for a budget option
I've used 4' and 8' plywood factory edges for years , with simple measures of blade to saw plate I've accomplished thousands of straight edge cuts
🤛 Great review. This review was oddly timed for me. I just, 4 days ago, purchased a Kreg Adaptive Cutting System, Saw + 62" Guide Track Kit. I will definity be purchasing this Milescraft Track Saw guide system for one of my Dewalt circular saws. I will leave that saw connected to adapter once it's set up. This way I can use it to make quick work breaking down plywood along with simple rip and cross cuts.
That does look like it does a great job. For just breaking down sheets and squaring edges
Hey Matt.
Because of your video, I ordered this from Milescraft. It came today, I set it up and bam! Perfect for a small garage/driveway shop that's a bit overwhelmed by my Grizzly tablesaw.😊
I've had the Bora for a few years. The track is much smaller and the sled is really cheap plastic. There's no stability, all kinds of play, and the clamping mechanism on the track is finicky and had me going back and forth around the workpiece to carefully get it square. I hated using it, so it was quickly retired and just used as a straight edge.
Because of the clamp handle on the Bora, I couldn't use a long t square. Seriously, anyone considering a Bora guide, just don't do it.
The Milescraft solved the squaring problem and my first cuts have been great.
The blade spacer is brilliant.
Thanks, man!
Awesome! Great to hear!
Awesome review! Definitely looking into this
That's pretty sweet. I've had good luck outta the few milescraft tools I've picked up.
This looks like something to invest in since I can use a corded saw 😊
Awesome, have been wondering why something like this wasn't available years ago.
Great video! Congratulations on 400000 SUBS ! For sheet goods break down looks great! Keep the video’s comin!
Thank you
I bought this and it works great! Thanks for the recommendation Matt! Broke down 2 sheets of plywood last weekend with it. 💪🏼
Thanks for the review! I might need to pick up a kit to help me break down sheet goods, because I'm definitely not comfortable with trying to use my ultra-cheap, crappy job-site table saw to break down full sheets.
I have a Kreg Accu-Cut that is very similar to the Milescraft system you have. The Kreg works okay, but can't compare to an actual track saw. I bought a used Makita track saw and it's not just the track itself that makes the dedicated one way better, but the ease of use of the plunge feature on the saw itself.
I've been using a 10' long piece of 3/4" steel square tubing. Clamp it down 1 1/4" in from cut for my saw on short side. Not going to keep the depth square but works great for straight cuts.
I love and appreciate how detailed and indepth you are
A weekend late. Building cornhole boards with my son-in-law last week. This is what we needed to break down lumber.
Ive got a kreg 24 inch rip cut guide. So far its worked in every situation I've needed a track saw but it requires a square edge to reference.
Looks like they did a good job. You could hot glue the end in.
Nice Informative Video, always enjoy your material. I purchase the newer version of Bora. Their new cradle is much improved over older cradle and their new rail & clamp system is much improved.
That all said, ripped nice but didn’t meet the Track saw desire… purchased a Festool 55 REB, returned and purchased new Milwaukee and it’s a Great setup. Returned after Your’s and Several Others were showing the Milwaukee.
I just bought this based on your review. Thanks.
Hope you enjoy it!
I use to use a frame rail from an old bed. Set it on what I need to cut and clamp it down so the saw blade is on the mark at both ends of what I'm going to cut. I have a straight edge tool now. Two 4 foot pieces that can be connected for an 8 foot cut. I think it's made by Swanson. Just have to make sure the plate on the saw slides along the straight edge and the blade is set right on the mark. Pretty quick and easy and works nicely. I got the straight edge from my brother so I don't know what it cost. And a bonus. You can make beveled cuts.
Good info. Gives me something to think about. 👍
once again thank you for your videos
I've never owned a Milescraft product, but I may look into this circular saw track. My Kreg Rip Cut has been fine for me for a couple years but it has its limitations.
This looks like a great way to use your battery circular saw to break down sheet goods in the big box store parking lots as it seems most of their saws are always broken.
I've got a Milescraft drill guide (no drill press). I've had good luck with this brand.
I really appreciate your honest and thorough review. Looks like a lot of trouble for limited function though. Makes me more apt to just get a good table saw.
I needed something to cut down 4x8 sheets a few years ago. I knew I’d only use a track once or twice a year and already owned 2 circular saws and couldn’t justify spending 2-4 hundred for a track saw. I purchased a similar product (not this one) and it worked perfectly for my needs around the house.
My problem exactly. I inherited 2 circular saws, had one of my own, and both my dad and I have battery powered minis. How many circular saws does a gal need?
Thanks for the share
I respect your take on this and tools are not getting any cheaper these days. I have a dedicated mafell track saw and therefore don’t need it. However, I like when there are options for younger guys with tight budgets to get into the trade or hobby; it’s not getting easier for younger guys these days to accumulate the tools needed to make an income from them. Additionally, your so much more capable in a trade or hobby the sooner you dive in, anything that helps that I’m all for.
Benjamin I just want to point out that wood working and buying tools is not gender specific. Many women like myself enjoy building and acquiring tools. I've piddled for years but just recently became more serious about buying all the correct tools for different jobs. Yes having options for lower cost quality tools is great for anyone just starting out.
Two point about end caps; they are probably there mainly for shipping to protect all the channels from dropped box damage, and; if the cap is used to prevent snagged hose/cord then only one is needed at the start (any snag pushes it into track vs out of place), the one at the finish end is unnecessary. If you want to protect the track against drop damage the end caps could be glued in place, one on a start end, one on a finish end, and the rest slip on and off for storage.
Thank you!
Ooo, I may have to give this a try! A lot of the circular saw to track saw jigs don't really live up to expectations (even when they're tempered), but the few Milescraft tools/jigs I've bought I've been pretty impressed with.
Awesome! Love Milescraft products. Their portable drill press jig is great too. If I didn't own my track saw already, this would be on my shopping list!
Wow great idea 💡
You can buy stops that hook onto the end of pretty much any track and keep your track square and locked to your material
I'm really impressed with how innovative and the level of quality that comes from Milescraft tools, and at very affordable price points.
This looks so much better than the Bora track. Wish i would of picked this up over the Bora. Oh well it happens. thanks for the review.
$100 is a really good price for this. Thanks for the review
I have been looking into this type of attachment for a while. I'd love to see a comparison between this the kreg and the bora systems.. I enjoy all your comparisons and would like to see your opinion.
Thanks
I am loving your series on track saws. Do you have any thoughts about the MLCS track saw for breaking down sheet goods. I have a table saw for thick wood but would like something solely for breaking down plywood and mdf.
👍👍👍thank you for the great information.
I've been holding out for track saw pricing to make more sense (excluding that Fischer-Price abomination re-branded as Wen).
This looks to be a pretty good stop-gap. Think I'll pick it up. Thanks.
A little bit of rtv silicone on the bottom side of those end caps could hold them on, but still be easy to remove them when you need to.
Might have to pick this one up!
It's a solid tool! Has a few limitations but great for its intended purpose.
This looks awesome! I'm a proud owner of the Kreg Track Saw and a not-so-proud owner of the Kreg Accu-Cut system (for circular saws). This design seems much better than the Kreg counterpart in my opinion. Love all the Milescraft products I have. If I didn't already have a track saw, I would definitely get this!
What do you not like about the Accu-Cut? I have the Rip Cut which seems better
@@SteveT313 I had too much trouble trying to get my circular saw to sit tightly in the sled. The sled itself was also plastic, and the track didn't have the non-slip material that the track saw track has. Also, way too much play side to side that I just couldn't seem to mitigate.
I agree on the kreg flaws.
The side to side play was really noticeable.
Because the sled only attaches at two points on the front, on mine I also had to make an angled spacer to get the sled to sit flat with my saw because the base plate has an under cut angle at the front that was different from the supplied kreg angle adapter.
My INaccu-cut is terrible, i agree with the amount of slop it has... i hate it.. @@bravesfan714
Looks better than the 8' spirit level I use for plywood sheets.
Good information
2:51 - seems like a better system than the Bora system. I bought the Bora system and it had no way to align the blade parallel to the track, other than whatever method you devise. Was very difficult. Then, there were only three plastic clamps holding the saw to the sliding base, and it didn't take much effort at all to push the whole saw relative to the base, throwing off whatever parallel-ness you created previously. No matter how much I tightened the clamps. I wound up sending it back on the second day, and just bought a Bora clamping straight edge, which I use without the sliding sled.
You could probably use superglue or other glue to make those endcaps more snug. Just add a spot of superglue to one or two strategic points, then shave off tiny bits of that until it fits very tight and take effort to pull it off.
Just a thought I think worthy of trying.
Hey Matt. Thanks for the review of the Milescraft Track Guide. I really enjoyed it. I purchased the Guide after watching your review and am very happy. I have decided to buy another circular saw to dedicate to the guide and wonder what your thoughts are. I will use it almost exclusively to breakdown sheets of plywood and have been considering buying a 6-1/2" saw rather than 7-1/4" . It seems that almost all track saws use the smaller saw so it seems like it would work here as well. What do you think? Thanks again for everything that you do to advance our hobby.
Those look like they would be nice for cutting the long angles on siding and some framing.
I don't think this would fit my big circ saws but a 16 inch track saw would be crazy right? 😆
Pretty sweet
Have you ever tested or looked at the Bora clamps and the saw guide accessory?
I wish you would have done a direct comparison to the Kreg Tracksaw Jig. I bought one on January for $90 but did not have a chance to use it yet.
Great option specially coming from Milescraft. Ive been looking into getting the Accucut track from Kreg, now I wonder which way to go. How would you compare this Milescraft to the Kreg Accucut track? They're both in the same price range.
Thanks for the tip on this track 👍🏾
Love the t-shirt!!
i have the kreg acs saw (which does actually have a track end guard cord/hose guide thing, but it also doesnt stay on and i rarely use it) would love to know if this is materially better than just making a circular saw guide jig using 3/8 mdf or whatever sheet good you have around
Bora makes a really nice track, as well, around the same price tag.
I have the 6 1/2" Kobalt circular saw. The blade is on the left side of the saw. I wonder it will work with this track? My main use is to break down 1/4" plywood for our laser.
Have you ever looked at the bora system? I have one and it works pretty well! I’m curious if you tried it and how you feel it compares.
Congratulations on 4000k Outlaws!
Thank you Matt!
Appreciate that you were so honest with how this compared to the Kreg product. I was almost ready to purchase the Kreg, but will be getting this instead per your recs! Keep up the solid work; love the content!
Thank you for videos, good understandable information, where do you get your T Shirts?, with the Milescraft track system do you need a the extra expense of parallel guides? Seems to me marking both ends (beginning and end). What I think the best feature is after using the saw and track is that removing the saw for another project, and then reattaching it to the plate is simple, fast, requires no micro adjustments, and assures it is correctly aligned. I almost went to other tracks, but thanks to you, I will buy the Milescraft with complete faith as you said will have a quality product
How would you compare this with the Bora NGX system, at least for breaking down sheet goods?
Milwaukee track saw link is broken. Love your content. I respect your reviews and look forward to your recommendations.
I need to trim the end of my 2 x 6 treated deck boards and I need a precise straight cut. I already have a craftsmen circular saw. Would you recommend the mileacraft track guide or the Wen track saw? Thanks!
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For the bevel issue; do you think you could adjust the saw out further than the blade spacer normally sets it up so that it will work and just tape the surface being cut the odd time you need to cut a bevel?(I’m thinking of this for breaking down sheet goods mostly so I shouldnt need to bevel but Since you’d probably need to measure a bevel cut anyway to make sure it’s exactly where you want it I feel like it wouldn’t be a big deal to move the saw on the base plate to make it work
I guess anyone wanting to make a bevel with this would have to create some angled jigs to go under the track and have a way to clamp it so it doesn't move. Too bad there isn't some option on the saw carriage that can shift the saw over as needed to get bevels, maybe this'll be a future upgrade for Milescraft.
I made my own out of an 8 foot x 12 inch wide piece of 1/4 inch plywood, with an 8 foot piece of oak 1x2 glued and screwed about 2 inches from the left edge of plywood. You lay your circular saw against the 1x2 and make a full pass so that it cuts the plywood to the exact width. Now to use it, simply line up the right side edge of plywood where you want to cut, clamp the whole jig down with just 2 squeeze clamps, and run the saw against the 1x2! Done
That's exactly what I did with some laminate flooring. Works great and it's basically made of leftover junk. Mitre bond activated glue did the trick for joining the parts in seconds. I threw it away once it got a bit battered and will make a new one when needed.
would this work with a 6.5" Dewalt Circular Saw? Just getting into to wood working around the house, but Long cuts I can't keep straight. Going to build a diy saw guide i think next week with some scraps to see if that helps.