you would probably more often want the 1176 in front of the LA2A. The 1176 is a faster compressor than an opto, so I like to use it first to catch peaks, followed by tonal EQ, then follow that with the LA2A
Bro, no lie... That part really bugged me, and he cut the lows after the compressor after he already enhanced the muddy signal. Great raw vocal though so he got away with it but would of loved to hear it done right.
I would have put the 1176 before the 2A in the chain. Have the 1176 take the transient information so the 2A won’t have to work as hard. Other than that, a very good chain. Fully agree. Love the new 2A by the way. Keep up the great work!
Why deesser is after compression? In that way sibilants are just attacking compressor and rest material is less compressed. If You put first deesser and after that compressor then compression will be done without sibilants.
Not necessarily. Compression either way is going to squeeze the vocal and bring out more frequencies. This is why you'll see some people add on another high pass filter after compression because it brought back some of that rumble. Same thing with De-Essing. Even though you De-Ess at the beginning of your chain doesn't mean you will be rid of sibilants after compression. Also different analog compressors add their own harmonics. As he said at the beginning, order doesn't matter. This is all preference. Plenty of people do wacky things in their vocal chains to service the artist. Hope this helped 👍
@@loganc2729 if you have so many sibilant issues that it requires you to use multiple De-essers, use a Dynamic EQ instead because that's all a De-esser is, just a single band Dynamic EQ.
@@MilesVPMUSIC Workflow and how technical you want to be really. Like if I can get the same results with Sibilance by Waves Audio vs. The amount of work I would have to do to for Dynamic EQ, I'm going to use the thing that's easiest.
Its all up to your ear. Youre doing the right thing and listening to whats happening as opposed to just sticking to numbers. I wanna guess that the vocal was sitting higher in the mix for this example too and he would have lowered the total fader volume in the final, just had it boosted to show us what was happening. If thats the case then the brightness might make it stand out better in the mix without having to be as loud
Hi Peter is my name and I need help with vocal mixing techniques. Ok firstly the vocal I have recorded was recorded in an empty old car because I don't have a place. Now how do I get the right mix at least nearest to a vocal that's been recorded in a studio room.
I would say that because if you tone-shape before compression it might affect the way the compressor reacts (not a bad thing if you're going after that, just something to have in mind). He could've put another FGS after compression but that wouldn't advertise the Inf EQ, would it? :P
Awesome video! I like it, and I like the chain. Where would it be appropriate to add a channel strip and noise gate? Any ideas? I'm new to this, and I find it interesting. Fresh Air seems like it was too harsh (maybe it is just me). Thanks!
@@SlateDigitalTV, thanks for the response as I truly appreciate it. - Where can you advise adding the channel strip and noise gate? Beginning or the end? - Channel strip first then noise gate or the other way around? Thanks!
@@CClassicRapMusicc i would add a noise gate at the beginning, as any compression/ dynamics processing will boost the noise floor as well, putting a noise gate at the beginning of ur signal will allow for just the elements above a certain threshold to pass. It’s basically the equivalent of cutting unwanted breaths and breaks from the audio take itself
@@CClassicRapMusicc 1)noise gates 2)compression 3)eq 4)reverb 5)delay 6)eq little bit in moderation It really depends on you some add noise gates at the beginning and some love to put in the end of the chain,good luck I'm a beginner but I'm done with this part 😁🤟🤟
How is, for example, picking a mic with a dip around 400hz any different to capturing that 400hz and EQing it out though? There was nothing wrong with the take, EQ wise, but we EQ to taste. Additionally find me a mic that will make vocals sound compressed?
you would probably more often want the 1176 in front of the LA2A. The 1176 is a faster compressor than an opto, so I like to use it first to catch peaks, followed by tonal EQ, then follow that with the LA2A
Bro, no lie... That part really bugged me, and he cut the lows after the compressor after he already enhanced the muddy signal. Great raw vocal though so he got away with it but would of loved to hear it done right.
I agree with you in theory, but when I've a/b'd both methods, the difference has been negligable at best.
@@Canstey84 and I've heard huge differences lol to each his own
@ProdMonjaultimately just do whatever sounds good
The Elements of a Pro Vocal Chain is bad ideia....
that fresh air plug in is such a game changer i can’t believe i was able to download it free thank you so much!!!
So glad you're loving Fresh Air!
I downloaded it but it doesn't work. Keeps asking me for a license.
Very very helpful my guy... will definitely use this formula!!! thank alot!
I would have put the 1176 before the 2A in the chain. Have the 1176 take the transient information so the 2A won’t have to work as hard. Other than that, a very good chain. Fully agree. Love the new 2A by the way. Keep up the great work!
Agree, that was very odd decision
Same
I agree with that 100%
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Why deesser is after compression? In that way sibilants are just attacking compressor and rest material is less compressed. If You put first deesser and after that compressor then compression will be done without sibilants.
Not necessarily. Compression either way is going to squeeze the vocal and bring out more frequencies. This is why you'll see some people add on another high pass filter after compression because it brought back some of that rumble. Same thing with De-Essing. Even though you De-Ess at the beginning of your chain doesn't mean you will be rid of sibilants after compression. Also different analog compressors add their own harmonics. As he said at the beginning, order doesn't matter. This is all preference. Plenty of people do wacky things in their vocal chains to service the artist. Hope this helped 👍
@@digithxi2815 Um wouldent it make more sense to stack de essers? Im not really sure because I dont have a ton of experience but Im just curious.
@@loganc2729 if you have so many sibilant issues that it requires you to use multiple De-essers, use a Dynamic EQ instead because that's all a De-esser is, just a single band Dynamic EQ.
@@MilesVPMUSIC Workflow and how technical you want to be really. Like if I can get the same results with Sibilance by Waves Audio vs. The amount of work I would have to do to for Dynamic EQ, I'm going to use the thing that's easiest.
Thanks. Why de-esser is in the end of the chain?
Привет! А ты всегда вначале ставишь? Я - да, самым первым. Спасибо за твой канал!)
Андрюха хороший вопрос :)
@@devianthousend Helped me too, thanks!
@@devianthousend that was a BAR. Thanks for the information!! What else can you give us advice on ?
Cool trick to use a DeEsser in the beginning and end of your chain.
just bought the all access, this is amazing
This was super helpful! Thank you 🙏
Is that not too bright?
It is. Use it sparingly
I felt it was 2 processed as well. That's why everything sounds the same nowadays & takes away the humanity from it imo
ya i felt that after he added that fresh air plugin
Its all up to your ear. Youre doing the right thing and listening to whats happening as opposed to just sticking to numbers. I wanna guess that the vocal was sitting higher in the mix for this example too and he would have lowered the total fader volume in the final, just had it boosted to show us what was happening. If thats the case then the brightness might make it stand out better in the mix without having to be as loud
Hi Peter is my name and I need help with vocal mixing techniques. Ok firstly the vocal I have recorded was recorded in an empty old car because I don't have a place. Now how do I get the right mix at least nearest to a vocal that's been recorded in a studio room.
Sound greattttttcan you do More vocal mixing ? I can't faind slate mixing in youtube I wanna see more
Great tips and demo.
Are you trying to transparently correcting bad frequencies with a coloured EQ and then colouring the vocals with a transparent EQ?
Great Video. Learning a lot from Slate...
Industry standard ❤️
i need her song out on all platforms
beautiful tips ! tnx
thank you so much man!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great Vid! Does anyone know the actual song? So smooth
For me it sound's compressed while recorded?
Who's The singer? Nice Video !
Sooooooo helpful 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
?? Fresh Air introduced som bad frequencies?
eq it out?
@@noshitjohnny reasonable point
Yes even I noticed
From what I've heard am more concerned about the recording chain. The vocal was great from the onset.
industry standard sound' love it
Fresh air is gane changer
Mmm... any reason why use inf.EQ for tone shaping rather than use FGS in this case ?
I would say that because if you tone-shape before compression it might affect the way the compressor reacts (not a bad thing if you're going after that, just something to have in mind). He could've put another FGS after compression but that wouldn't advertise the Inf EQ, would it? :P
@@gbermudezmora hahah... true...
Awesome video! I like it, and I like the chain. Where would it be appropriate to add a channel strip and noise gate? Any ideas? I'm new to this, and I find it interesting. Fresh Air seems like it was too harsh (maybe it is just me). Thanks!
Absolutely! Noise gate on vocals can be a great, quick way to improve your mix 👍🏾
@@SlateDigitalTV, thanks for the response as I truly appreciate it.
- Where can you advise adding the channel strip and noise gate? Beginning or the end?
- Channel strip first then noise gate or the other way around?
Thanks!
@@CClassicRapMusicc i would add a noise gate at the beginning, as any compression/ dynamics processing will boost the noise floor as well, putting a noise gate at the beginning of ur signal will allow for just the elements above a certain threshold to pass. It’s basically the equivalent of cutting unwanted breaths and breaks from the audio take itself
@@CClassicRapMusicc 1)noise gates
2)compression
3)eq
4)reverb
5)delay
6)eq little bit in moderation
It really depends on you some add noise gates at the beginning and some love to put in the end of the chain,good luck I'm a beginner but I'm done with this part 😁🤟🤟
@@saniespinosa8323, thank you so much 🙂.
Any updates on when is the pitch correction plugin finally coming out?
Keep an eye on our socials for more info on MetaTune coming soon!
@@SlateDigitalTV 👀 fulltime 😀
I like her vocal
what's a good vocal chain for hip hop vocals with slate?
I think this tip works for all, just use it as a starting point and then finalize the touches with your ears 💪🏽🙏🏽
@@keyslordupdates it's all about using your ears. That's what separates pros from hobbyists.
the tuner algorithm is way too heavy or is this a prelude to the new slate tune app coming soon ?
still an awesome video thanks for sharing ...
I am curious about that pitch correction tool as well...
Incredible results off so little...
Choose the right mic to begin with
How is, for example, picking a mic with a dip around 400hz any different to capturing that 400hz and EQing it out though?
There was nothing wrong with the take, EQ wise, but we EQ to taste.
Additionally find me a mic that will make vocals sound compressed?
@@devianthousend my comment doesn't contradict that idea though, I'm saying it was right at the source.
Nice i like
Am I the only one who thinks this sounds like Reid?
Это очень круто!!!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
that fresh air makes it sound too bright and thin, i would not use that