I’m not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary BUT, boosting frequencies actually does increase the volume of that frequency...i promise you I’m not lying
You’re suppose to level match the gain AFTER BOOSTING EQ💎 When you do that, it’s no longer louder, only the tonal balance (difference in volume btwn frequencies has changed)
i found this video to be very helpful. here is this video simplified: step 1: eq vocals (add brightness/character) 2:35 step 2: compress vocals (consistency) 3:59 step 3: make sure your vocal sounds good with the rest of the song (masking) 7:03 step 4: do not let your vocal be too loud (bonus tip) 12:25
Your 10-hour compressor class really-really helped me hear the differences a compressor makes, because of the level-matching. Now it was obvious how the vocals were either too loud or too meek before the compression. Thanks a lot!
My mixing "guru" told me the vocals are too loud on a track I sent, and somehow the link to this video popped up on my phone ;-) Very clear and helpful as always! Thanks, Dylan and MOAM!
Great video and clear and to the point with easy to follow A/B examples. I use to record local artist 20 years ago. Although I was able to get my EQ sounding clean there was still more room for improvement to get them sounding perfect. Wish I knew these steps back then. But hey you never stop learning. Great video 👍🏾
That was super interesting! I've been for years not wondering how so many songs I listen to manage to make the vocals so loud and clear without having to pull all the instruments down to make it fit, and now I get how!
This is a great summary for dealing with the vocal loudness problem. I think the very last tip ie turn down your vocal before initiating the cut through techniques is very sensible. Thanks again...
This is amazing. I was confused why my beats sounded so bad when I added vocals on top. I used this method and boom it sounds magical. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!
I really love this video! Here’s my two cents: Pro Q3 has a tool where it can show which frequencies are clashing the most between two tracks. Knowing this I would probably use that tool (for the masking portion of this video) and then apply a dynamic eq to the frequencies of the instrument that’s clashing with the vocals (I use TDR NOVA because it’s a free dynamic eq where u can have multiple eq bands sidechaining in different ways) so that the instrument doesn’t have to always have that eq dip. When the vocals go away the instrument can return to its normal state. Just a thought 🙏
Very informative video, I find sidechain compression helps a lot as well, by sidechaining the masking instruments with the vocals, so the vocals are always front and centre
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I was actually thinking about this yesterday after I was listening to a song with really high pitched vocals, and although it was 100% clear in the mix, it felt soft and nice to hear. Now I know how to do it. Thank you so much!
1) Load a favourite track from the same genre - compare loudness/clarity or whatever you're looking for! 2)Use Wavesfactory Trackspacer vst plugin, send an instrument that is not the main one that you wanna hear, EQ cuts will sound worse than Trackspacer has and more importantly far less work! 3) Control Stereo width within the mix.4) Nothing will be too loud!
Really excellent video. The section on masking was great; I never thought to go through the mix and just mute a track at a time while being tuned into the vocals
I was "theorizing" myself why I get my vocals very loud but they don't seem upfront, they would just mess with every other instrument.... And it feels so much better to hear a proper solution.
I'm sorry, but the repeated comments about not increasing the volume are blatantly incorrect. At 2:10 we can see the wet vocal meters are floating around -12 with peaks at -9. The dry vocal meters float around -18 with peaks at -12. Similar changes occur for the other two vocal tracks. That isn't "the illusion of loudness". That's just loudness. If we simplify the wet-dry difference to 4db, then the sound intensity of the wet signal is 251% of the dry signal. Which translates to a 32% increase in perceived loudness. Which is not resultant from your processing but simply from the increase in volume that you repeatedly pretend isn't happening. You have a position as an educator, and thus a responsibility not to perpetuate misinformation. Level match your processing. The techniques in this video are otherwise strong. Thanks.
Thank you for this video. As a beginner doing my own mixing/mastering this helped a lot. I’m good with the music but my vocals always lacking something. This made them pop. Thanks 🙏🏻
Not sure I agree about the premise, alot of music have an obviously loud vocal, and I found this example to have a quiet vocal for my taste even after the adjustments. The unmasking technique is a good general tip though 👍
Good tips, they also help to reduce muddiness in the vocal tracks. Sometimes it goes the other way too, the VOX sound lower when you add reverb or delay.
U gotta send your reverb and delays and eq them some come with an eq built in as u may or may not know as well as eq the plugin on the saw mixer as well this will brighten the effects and make them fit to vocals better..I hope this helps and makes senese
6:50 i would really appreciate a tutorial on this!! using compression to kind of glue lead vocals and doubles together. i always struggle with mixing in doubles/harmonies so they don't stand out too much
It’s not essentially mixing them together. Just mixing them in a way that they blend together well. I make main vocals loud enough to be the main presence and apply reverb and parallel compression on busses then I try to get all three to blend together to give me a good sound.
I do a lot of mixing with heavy guitars and always struggle to get them to play well with the vocals... ...I think the masking section is going to help tremendously, what a great video!
Interesting video, I'm new to audio design and while I've noticed "frequency jamming", I did not clue in before that brighter sounds appear to be closer -- thx for sharing these tips, I learned a lot!
Finally a hip hop vocal tutorial 🙌🙌 I would love to watch a tutorial on how to mix hiphop/rap beats 🙏🙏 how to balance it or just anything related to hip hop 😄 It would be very helpful
You are correct. You are boosting frequencies which increases gain or cutting them which reduces gain.That's why most eq's have a gain knob or fader so you can gain stage after.
Also, a decent EQ like Fab Filter has an auto button that levels the volume so each time you boost or cut, the volume stays balanced. Means you aren't just tricking yourself with loudness, your EQ moves are totally exposed and forced you to make better EQ decisions.
This was amazing, my man. I've recently been experimenting with adding vocals to my own stuff, and it always sounded like things didnt "fit" properly. I'm definitely gonna be giving all these a shot! Thanks for putting this together, Dylan! Shoutouts to ya =D
dude holy shekels... that last tip was the One to Rule Them All. very Pro Tip. you are the Boss. I bet you hve one vid on groups. i am liking your grouping from what i can see
Thanks for your class , is very good to know those details, only one thing that i am sure will improve your work, is using a different songs to appreciate the difference. I respect who like that music, but we are ready got great songs and better singers.
Enjoyed your content but I'll have to disagree on one thing. When you are raising the higher frequencies you are actually increasing gain in those frequencies, therefore it means it's getting louder. But as far as sound as sounding closer, The frequencies may make it sound more intelegable and may be perceived as wider with the boost in the 10k and up range. Great stuff man. I enjoy your content. Keep it coming!
He said he gain staged each plugin as it was adjusted, so that means if it was louder after the eqing, he brought the gain down to match what it was when started... so, no, it wouldn't have an increase in volume
@@greghill5480 I must have missed it when watched it the first time. I went back through and listened again and I stand corrected. He did say that he gain staged inside the plugin.
Just recorded a track and really wanted a different perspective and different PAIR OF EARS ON MI MIX so yuh just actually did that for mi whether yuh realized that or not. Big ups 🤜🏾🤛🏾 Question- mi lived in Brazil now 🇧🇷 but when mi lived in Philadelphia, mi Engineer use to only use a brightness and some just a little bit a reverb. Never hardly any whole eep of effects on mi voice. Mi asked about tis and him said because mi voice from is a gifted NATURAL STRONG VOICE THAT PROJECTS SO EASILY also, mi a SHAKESPERIAN TRAINED ACTOR, he told mi, MI VOICE DOES NOT NEED MUCH EFFECTS OR COLORING. Him tell mi some artists voice do while others don’t naturally. He also, said after coming to see mi perform, mi voice sounds exactly di same performing LIVE dat is does in di STUDIO....Whutz yuh take on tis COLORING OR NO COLORING EFFECTS FOR VOICE? Awesome vid bredda. Definitely needed this at di right tyme. 💯🇯🇲🇧🇷🤟🏾
that point on brightness ive experienced with stuff like hi-hats and percussion, never knew that! should i compensate on that with lowered volume or remove some high-end? i think for separate headphones itll be a different volume, im guessing EQ would help with that?
An undetectable amount yes, but his point is legit, you don't have to turn up the vox in the mix if you can clean up some masking frequencies from other instruments
The trouble I've had in my Cakewalk recordings for a couple of years, is that when I export to MP3 or Wave files, the volume is significantly LOWER than MP3s I buy for instance. Just a few days ago I realized the problem: while recording (I have used an EVO 8 recently, and before that, a Mackie ProFX6v3) my headphone volume was set too high. Consequently, as far as listening via headphones, I had great volume. But in reality the recording volume was too low. So I've learned to turn down the headphone volume just enough to get a good sized waveform on the track. Also, in Cakewalk I can click on a track, then click on Process, and go to Normalize. This makes for "just right" volume. So bottom line, we need to have a REALISTIC VOLUME ON THE HEADPHONES that reflects the volume actually being recorded...
From your experience, how dependent is the EQ on the type of microphone and vocals? I struggled with this on my latest release but ended up with EQ almost opposite to yours - boosting around 1k really helped add "power" to the vocals without stifling the instruments, while I really struggled with that "presence" area sounding too harsh (having used a condenser). Funny thing is that was more of a mellow prog rock music, while mixing vocals on top of metal had felt much easier despite having to pop through heavy guitars. Either way, great video!
It’s entirely dependent on the microphone and vocal. All mics and vocalists sound different, you have to eq them differently depending on the song. There isn’t really a one size fits all.
I really love you take on masking. Question: what if the frequency I need to cut for an instrument is the bread-and-butter tone center for the instrument?
ok but can u teach me how to make my overall song louder?? my song sounds so good on logic but when i download it and send it to my phone the volume is much lower
I'm working on the vocals for my new dance tune, and I want to see if I can have a hit on the dance chart. This is good timing. Everything has to sound professional.
is it ok to add a multiband compressor and sidechain it to the vocals onto certain frequencies where the vocals have presence to make sure the beat is not clashing with the vocal?
I’m not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary BUT, boosting frequencies actually does increase the volume of that frequency...i promise you I’m not lying
I believe you
But even if you trim it later on and bring the overall gain back to the same the vocals will sound clearer.
You’re suppose to level match the gain AFTER BOOSTING EQ💎
When you do that, it’s no longer louder, only the tonal balance (difference in volume btwn frequencies has changed)
i found this video to be very helpful. here is this video simplified:
step 1: eq vocals (add brightness/character) 2:35
step 2: compress vocals (consistency) 3:59
step 3: make sure your vocal sounds good with the rest of the song (masking) 7:03
step 4: do not let your vocal be too loud (bonus tip) 12:25
Literally just got vocals recorded and ready to mix, it was meant to be
As is everything, if you want to reach out you go inwards God of ecstasy blesses you 😀👽😀❤😀
Me too 😂
This has opened my mind so much more.
Thanks for this
Your 10-hour compressor class really-really helped me hear the differences a compressor makes, because of the level-matching. Now it was obvious how the vocals were either too loud or too meek before the compression. Thanks a lot!
I just did that, and I was amazed how well this trick can make the vocals sit without no need to increase the volume. Thank u so much for that!
de-masking is everything. thank you.
My mixing "guru" told me the vocals are too loud on a track I sent, and somehow the link to this video popped up on my phone ;-) Very clear and helpful as always! Thanks, Dylan and MOAM!
Great video and clear and to the point with easy to follow A/B examples.
I use to record local artist 20 years ago. Although I was able to get my EQ sounding clean there was still more room for improvement to get them sounding perfect. Wish I knew these steps back then. But hey you never stop learning. Great video 👍🏾
That was super interesting! I've been for years not wondering how so many songs I listen to manage to make the vocals so loud and clear without having to pull all the instruments down to make it fit, and now I get how!
This is a great summary for dealing with the vocal loudness problem. I think the very last tip ie turn down your vocal before initiating the cut through techniques is very sensible. Thanks again...
Creating loudness is something I ALWAYS struggle with omg i just know this is gonna be so helpful already! thank you so much!
Information here is just as clear and concise as I'd expect a paid music production class to be. Great explanations!
This is amazing. I was confused why my beats sounded so bad when I added vocals on top. I used this method and boom it sounds magical. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!
I really love this video! Here’s my two cents: Pro Q3 has a tool where it can show which frequencies are clashing the most between two tracks. Knowing this I would probably use that tool (for the masking portion of this video) and then apply a dynamic eq to the frequencies of the instrument that’s clashing with the vocals (I use TDR NOVA because it’s a free dynamic eq where u can have multiple eq bands sidechaining in different ways) so that the instrument doesn’t have to always have that eq dip. When the vocals go away the instrument can return to its normal state. Just a thought 🙏
This man knows his stuff. You should pin this. That’s true gold.
@@Cyrusnotmiley 😄thanks man I been practicing lol
How can i do it in Pro Q3 ?
@@jazzybeeff ua-cam.com/video/iHXcJtBaU6g/v-deo.html
Unmasking, am heading to try it out. Gracias!!!
This video created a breakthrough for me in my audio engineer career.
Very informative video, I find sidechain compression helps a lot as well, by sidechaining the masking instruments with the vocals, so the vocals are always front and centre
I was actually thinking about this yesterday after I was listening to a song with really high pitched vocals, and although it was 100% clear in the mix, it felt soft and nice to hear. Now I know how to do it. Thank you so much!
Thanks for explaining the masking! I have never understood the whole cutting process.
this tips are awsome ,espicially The musking part.Thanks a lot.
1) Load a favourite track from the same genre - compare loudness/clarity or whatever you're looking for! 2)Use Wavesfactory Trackspacer vst plugin, send an instrument that is not the main one that you wanna hear, EQ cuts will sound worse than Trackspacer has and more importantly far less work! 3) Control Stereo width within the mix.4) Nothing will be too loud!
I swear my vocals are either too quiet or too loud! This helped very much! Thank you so much!
What you use monitors or headphones to mix ?
@@bigxrecords7375 headphones
I took you seriously until I heard the disco...
Really excellent video. The section on masking was great; I never thought to go through the mix and just mute a track at a time while being tuned into the vocals
I was "theorizing" myself why I get my vocals very loud but they don't seem upfront, they would just mess with every other instrument.... And it feels so much better to hear a proper solution.
I'm sorry, but the repeated comments about not increasing the volume are blatantly incorrect. At 2:10 we can see the wet vocal meters are floating around -12 with peaks at -9. The dry vocal meters float around -18 with peaks at -12. Similar changes occur for the other two vocal tracks. That isn't "the illusion of loudness". That's just loudness.
If we simplify the wet-dry difference to 4db, then the sound intensity of the wet signal is 251% of the dry signal. Which translates to a 32% increase in perceived loudness. Which is not resultant from your processing but simply from the increase in volume that you repeatedly pretend isn't happening.
You have a position as an educator, and thus a responsibility not to perpetuate misinformation. Level match your processing. The techniques in this video are otherwise strong. Thanks.
Masking tip was a game changer for me, thanks dude!
This explaination is on another level! Thank you so much for this!
OH! Now...now I understand feedback I have been getting on my person's mix/master.
Thank you for this video. As a beginner doing my own mixing/mastering this helped a lot. I’m good with the music but my vocals always lacking something. This made them pop. Thanks 🙏🏻
musician on a mission is the best channel and websites to gain knowledge with free of cost amazing. All u need is time, patience
Not sure I agree about the premise, alot of music have an obviously loud vocal, and I found this example to have a quiet vocal for my taste even after the adjustments. The unmasking technique is a good general tip though 👍
Good tips, they also help to reduce muddiness in the vocal tracks. Sometimes it goes the other way too, the VOX sound lower when you add reverb or delay.
U gotta send your reverb and delays and eq them some come with an eq built in as u may or may not know as well as eq the plugin on the saw mixer as well this will brighten the effects and make them fit to vocals better..I hope this helps and makes senese
Thanks so much Dylan.
I have never hear this bonus tip from anyone before. It is super useful to keep in mind when mixing.
Thanks for sharing. 👌👌🎼
Thanks... Awesome. Greetings from the Netherlands
WOW MAN, that masking was genius.. This dude is amazing with the information.. Thank you again buddy.. I had to sub.. Wow...
6:50 i would really appreciate a tutorial on this!! using compression to kind of glue lead vocals and doubles together. i always struggle with mixing in doubles/harmonies so they don't stand out too much
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It’s not essentially mixing them together. Just mixing them in a way that they blend together well. I make main vocals loud enough to be the main presence and apply reverb and parallel compression on busses then I try to get all three to blend together to give me a good sound.
You explained it very nicely.
I wish I had this information 10 years ago. Thank you for making htis!
Subscribed. You fixed the exact problem I had. Gave me a really simple yet effective way to make the vocal sit perfectly. Thank you!
Thank you for this video! I came here for the EQing, but ended up realising my mix’s problem is phasing. What would I do without your tutorials 🖤
This is the video I've been looking for the past 3 months
Thank you very much
My guy! The chapters time stamps....thank you... you are the man
Thanks a lot for being very helpful.
You can also sidechain to reduce masking, even sidechain a multiband compressor.
I do a lot of mixing with heavy guitars and always struggle to get them to play well with the vocals...
...I think the masking section is going to help tremendously, what a great video!
Interesting video, I'm new to audio design and while I've noticed "frequency jamming", I did not clue in before that brighter sounds appear to be closer -- thx for sharing these tips, I learned a lot!
Finally a hip hop vocal tutorial 🙌🙌
I would love to watch a tutorial on how to mix hiphop/rap beats 🙏🙏
how to balance it or just anything related to hip hop 😄
It would be very helpful
I do the ol pultec trick to cut the mud and add some bass then add air at around 12khz. 3 moves is usually all it takes to get in the ball park.
What I understand about mixing is when ever you start to eq vocals it's volume you added to a frequency that make that frequency louder. 🤔🤔🤔
You are correct. You are boosting frequencies which increases gain or cutting them which reduces gain.That's why most eq's have a gain knob or fader so you can gain stage after.
Also, a decent EQ like Fab Filter has an auto button that levels the volume so each time you boost or cut, the volume stays balanced. Means you aren't just tricking yourself with loudness, your EQ moves are totally exposed and forced you to make better EQ decisions.
This was incredibly helpful to a beginner! Thanks for sharing your knowledge, it makes perfect sense when laid out like this
Man you broke this down clear .
Very helpful! Thanks a lot 👍
nice visualizitation with the guitar and piano blurring the line as you are explaining your point!
This is the EQ video I’ve been looking for forever
This was amazing, my man. I've recently been experimenting with adding vocals to my own stuff, and it always sounded like things didnt "fit" properly. I'm definitely gonna be giving all these a shot!
Thanks for putting this together, Dylan! Shoutouts to ya =D
Hey it’s beesquared
Great tutorial. Has this song been released yet? Artist name?
so nice!you make some of the best tutorials on youtube!
Funny with the bonus tip i wasnt aware i already did that. The rest i will add to my arsenal, tnx
dude holy shekels... that last tip was the One to Rule Them All. very Pro Tip. you are the Boss.
I bet you hve one vid on groups. i am liking your grouping from what i can see
Lovely tutorial! Thanks for that. Ironically, though, the narration vocal is way too loud compared to the music tracks you're playing.
Thanks for your class , is very good to know those details, only one thing that i am sure will improve your work, is using a different songs to appreciate the difference. I respect who like that music, but we are ready got great songs and better singers.
I'm gonna watch this a few times and write everything down, this is a huuuge help! Thanks a lot! 🙌
Awesome tips!!! Enjoying and learning them right here from Brazil! Your videos are great! They've been helping me a lot. Thanks!
dude you sound exactly like badger from breaking bad and i love it
Enjoyed your content but I'll have to disagree on one thing. When you are raising the higher frequencies you are actually increasing gain in those frequencies, therefore it means it's getting louder. But as far as sound as sounding closer, The frequencies may make it sound more intelegable and may be perceived as wider with the boost in the 10k and up range. Great stuff man. I enjoy your content. Keep it coming!
He said he gain staged each plugin as it was adjusted, so that means if it was louder after the eqing, he brought the gain down to match what it was when started... so, no, it wouldn't have an increase in volume
@@greghill5480 I must have missed it when watched it the first time. I went back through and listened again and I stand corrected. He did say that he gain staged inside the plugin.
@@ghost43881 some more good info on vocals ua-cam.com/video/gQgchkNvH_c/v-deo.html
Perfectly explained without holding back. Well done. Subscribed!
Just recorded a track and really wanted a different perspective and different PAIR OF EARS ON MI MIX so yuh just actually did that for mi whether yuh realized that or not. Big ups 🤜🏾🤛🏾
Question- mi lived in Brazil now 🇧🇷 but when mi lived in Philadelphia, mi Engineer use to only use a brightness and some just a little bit a reverb. Never hardly any whole eep of effects on mi voice. Mi asked about tis and him said because mi voice from is a gifted NATURAL STRONG VOICE THAT PROJECTS SO EASILY also, mi a SHAKESPERIAN TRAINED ACTOR, he told mi, MI VOICE DOES NOT NEED MUCH EFFECTS OR COLORING. Him tell mi some artists voice do while others don’t naturally. He also, said after coming to see mi perform, mi voice sounds exactly di same performing LIVE dat is does in di STUDIO....Whutz yuh take on tis COLORING OR NO COLORING EFFECTS FOR VOICE?
Awesome vid bredda. Definitely needed this at di right tyme.
💯🇯🇲🇧🇷🤟🏾
Super useful! Thank you!
that point on brightness ive experienced with stuff like hi-hats and percussion, never knew that! should i compensate on that with lowered volume or remove some high-end?
i think for separate headphones itll be a different volume, im guessing EQ would help with that?
Should i do that masking taktic after i took out frequencies of the vocals or before
That EQ boost on the highs on the vocal is REALLY severe.
Yeah but I feel like it gets the job done, no?
Like I don’t hear it adding any harshness, just clarity
If it sounds good it's good 👍
Great video. Thank you.
3:13 actually you ARE changing volume with the EQ, that’s how it works
An undetectable amount yes, but his point is legit, you don't have to turn up the vox in the mix if you can clean up some masking frequencies from other instruments
@@BhProp Read the meters at 2:10 vs 2:17. Big volume difference. The point is legit, but this video isn't a good demonstration of it.
Loving the new Logo guys. It really Rocks!!
Great video and thank you so much for the time stamps
Thank you for this video, so much appreciation 🙏🏼❤️
Huge tips thanks mate
The trouble I've had in my Cakewalk recordings for a couple of years, is that when I export to MP3 or Wave files, the volume is significantly LOWER than MP3s I buy for instance. Just a few days ago I realized the problem: while recording (I have used an EVO 8 recently, and before that, a Mackie ProFX6v3) my headphone volume was set too high. Consequently, as far as listening via headphones, I had great volume. But in reality the recording volume was too low. So I've learned to turn down the headphone volume just enough to get a good sized waveform on the track. Also, in Cakewalk I can click on a track, then click on Process, and go to Normalize. This makes for "just right" volume. So bottom line, we need to have a REALISTIC VOLUME ON THE HEADPHONES that reflects the volume actually being recorded...
who is that artist that track was 🔥
Needed this right now.
1. brightness = bring up high freq. in EQ
2. consistency = compression
3. remove masking = lower some EQ in competing tracks with similar tones
Thanks friend, superb tutorial !
From your experience, how dependent is the EQ on the type of microphone and vocals? I struggled with this on my latest release but ended up with EQ almost opposite to yours - boosting around 1k really helped add "power" to the vocals without stifling the instruments, while I really struggled with that "presence" area sounding too harsh (having used a condenser). Funny thing is that was more of a mellow prog rock music, while mixing vocals on top of metal had felt much easier despite having to pop through heavy guitars. Either way, great video!
It’s entirely dependent on the microphone and vocal. All mics and vocalists sound different, you have to eq them differently depending on the song. There isn’t really a one size fits all.
I really love you take on masking. Question: what if the frequency I need to cut for an instrument is the bread-and-butter tone center for the instrument?
Great content, thanks!
Always appreciate your videos. Thank you!
Made sense thanks! 👌
Nice track, who is it? Did it get released? Digable Planets vibe.
Thank you for the tips!
Please tell why does TLM 102 sounds harsh while mixing into the song
Awesome concise perspective on this.
The link for the cheat sheets doesnt seen to work.
This was a great video! very well explained!
very well explained! Thanks👌🏽
ok but can u teach me how to make my overall song louder?? my song sounds so good on logic but when i download it and send it to my phone the volume is much lower
Where is the cheat sheet that link leads to a video! What after that?
this is amazing content!
I'm working on the vocals for my new dance tune, and I want to see if I can have a hit on the dance chart. This is good timing. Everything has to sound professional.
is it ok to add a multiband compressor and sidechain it to the vocals onto certain frequencies where the vocals have presence to make sure the beat is not clashing with the vocal?