Idea for a sketch you picking up a rough draft from 9 years ago about a life changing trip to venus but you realize your ideas where mutilated ln contect with the paper because what you tried to convay and what was dispenced was two totally different things.
No joke, this literally my thoughts sometimes. They just replay from time to time, adding bits and details here without actually picking the pen up. 😂😆😂
The blinking cursor is the reason why the character can't write it all down. It distracts, it diverts and shows us the passage of our short, fleeting lives with its every blink.
Well, that's when we think generic and look at generic stuff. Look out for the unsual approaches, and try to think unusually, and the generic stuff is no more
@cobalius not as easy as you say Unusual often means it doesn't work So to make something not generic one needs to try countless different approaches to final find the Unusual thing that finally works (Which make it understandable why a lot of people use generic plots/mechanics with maybe a twist or two)
@@nuance9000 imagine a neolithic civilization first inventing fire in the hyper o2 environment burning down forests and fields in their attempts, it would be difficult to explain how it would make it past the step of learning to safely use fire but i think its possible and it would shape the society in such a meaningful way probably
Perhaps fire would be restricted to the jurisdiction of a class of fire priests. Perhaps it would be associated with or considered a deity or primeval force. Perhaps they have legends of a distant time when fire consumed the whole earth. That in turn reminds me of mesoamerican mythology, so you could add in a cyclical cosmos or a belief in such. The Aztecs performed blood sacrifices to feed the sun. What would these people do, I wonder?@@dutchthenightmonkey3457
The hardest part isn't usually even coming up with Ideas, it's remembering them all and then somehow piecing them all together in a way that makes sense. Also as soon as I start writing my grammar goes out the window
I fixed this with a typewriter, but the paper got wet, so I got it a tiny umbrella, but then I'm writing and my hands are too dry and I feel like a weirdo, like who has dry hands in the shower
Actual trick: If you are this guy, and you can _talk about_ your story ideas way more easily than you can write them down - buy a voice memo recorder, or a note recorder, or whatever they're called, and take it with you on these walks. If you can't afford one, and you have a smart phone, record voice notes on that. Looks goofy as hell, but if it lets you capture these ideas when you have them, so that you can actually access them later when you're in a better position to write - business people do it, musicians do it, no reason a writer can't do it too.
Actually a great idea. Reminds me of a certain character, Katin, from the book Nova by Samuel Delaney; he's a "writer" who's constantly monologuing into a recording device about all the themes he wants his novel to explore, but he's never actually written a single word. Still, I can only imagine that in real life having access to those recordings and re-listening to them would be a great source of inspiration.
@@genericallyentertaining It's very useful; not just for inspiration, but also to have notes which are recorded and accessed by a different linguistic faculty to writing. I regularly reach a point where I can't _write_ anything more in a day, but I've still got ideas floating around which I know are going to disappear if I sleep on them. At that point, the memo recorder comes out and the notes just get talked into it. The only drawback is that you have to listen to your own voice, recorded, and that gives everyone a bit of the photo vs. mirror effect, until you get used to the idea of percieving the same thing in two different ways.
@@genericallyentertaining (Also - thank you for the book recommend; I don't think I've ever read Delany, but looking through his catalogue now, there seems to be some interesting stuff! Edit: Ah. Black, gay, and most scandalous of all, _American_ - no wonder I never found any of his books on library shelves, growing up. Thank you _so much_ - I'm doing a bit of a trawl through classic sci-fi at the moment for queer stuff, and just doing a web-search does not go into details like 'there's a character who spends the entire novel composing a novel of his own' - that sounds great, and it's now at the top of my list. 👍)
If I could physically bring myself to do this, it would definitely save me a lot of grief, especially since a lot of voice recorders also do voice to text now. I'm working on my anxiety around being perceived rn so maybe someday soon 😅
I think that one major factor that explains the distance between thinking about writing and writing for real is the simple fact that when you are thinking about writing you are doing the fun part of the job, you are putting the plan into place, you are creating the story and it's foundations. When you are engaging in the actual process of writing you're doing construction work, you know what you are doing so you don't end up being surprised by the things that work. What you do end up being surprised by tends to be annoying busywork like rewrites and thinking about the wider narrative has to accommodate them. TLDR actually writing is the boring and time consuming part of a job that requires 80% of the work and gives 20% of the results.
I usually record me speaking my ideas out loud so that my ideas are not lost while writing and I can just do the construction work without thinking, just churn out words to describe what I was saying in the recording. Kinda helps with the boring part when i am writing chapter 1 while talking out loud about chapter 6 it lets me imagine and write. I don’t know if it’s effective or not tho, leaving this here if anyone wants to try this and see if it works for them.
I think we think this way about “writing being the boring bit” because so often we have to strangle and contort our big ideas into functional stories. See the colours and vibes pressed out of them. If you start in a FUNCTIONAL way, writing almost as a mechanical, automatic process of cause and effect and help yourself out with a useful narrative framework, like an act structure or central theme characters all exist to give perspectives on-anything to make a Northstar out of for when you’re stuck and need a next step-it can really flow and become play and joyful, especially if you have a writing partner to make sure your ideas are grounded and practical What sucks about coming out the gate with grand ambitions is you basically jump right to the editing part of your story. You’re editing it for 80 percent of the time. Of course that’s boring.
My plot: godly wars, polygamy, death, magic, suicide cults, death, interperatation of imagination as reality, true meaning of evil, more death The google doc: So they died
My plot: A brave woman who's served her realm for many years gets kidnapped by an evil sorcerer who wants to turn her to the dark side. This classic setup allows for a deep subversion, in which we'll explore the nature of good and evil, the validity of monarchy and hierarchy in general, the secrets of the universe, the problem of power, and more. My writing: being kidnapped sure sucks :(
@@celisewillis it’s a blend of both. I have 12 in the polyamory/polygamy 4 of them are only with the universal one (the m.c) 3 of them are together as well as the m.c I have 2 pairs of gods with their mortal forms which somehow became their own entities (the god and their entity aren’t with each other but they both are with the other pair) and then the m.c
Starting is the hardest part. Get words on the page and let them flow. You can fix things later. Also, careful with the Tolstoy mention. You'll provoke an essay on the world's greatest storytellers.
I did that once. I wrote 5,000 words without thinking about any plotline whatsoever, and what I got from that was 5,000 words that don't connect in any plotline whatsoever. Just a hole bunch of people doing stuff.
Legend has it that James Joyce actually wrote that book being planned out here, only to have Ezra Pound reject all but volume VI and edit it so heavily (excising the magic, nearly all the characters and doing much more tempering) that the original was rendered beyond recognition. We now know that book as Ulysses.
I day-dream about my awesome cyberpunk dark fantasy animated show inspired by Dark Souls, Blade Runner and Ghost In The Shell while working, and its too #ucking awesome to put in comments, sorry 😎 (but I can tell some if you wanna tough 🥺)
This is the most relatable video I've ever seen lol. At least I've gotten to the point where I write garbage and tear my beautiful vision apart word by word instead of writing nothing?
When I get ideas like this, I jot them down in a note app on my phone. A quick scratchpad scribble of scenes, scraps of dialogue, anything and everything. Sitting with laptop comes later, where I piece them together and refine them into something actually usable. Far better than staring at a blank editor trying to find that perfect opening which you totally won't redraft a dozen times before you're done.
Yeah, this is the way! That little blue notebook I'm carrying in the video is what I use for jotting down ideas or just random things that inspire me, and flipping through it is a great way to give myself a little creative burst when I need it.
I think of that one SpongeBob episode where he writes for hours but all he can come up with is… The, but the T is super duper fancy and the rest are just squiggles
I keep getting an insanely good idea for a story or a character but those ideas either fade away or I just straight up decide “nah im not in the mood to write”
Same. Recently I've been using my phone notepad to just jot down little bits of ideas sometimes, which does sometimes turn into me actually getting a bit of real story down, but most of the time I still can't even make myself stop what I'm doing to write a couple bullet points if whatever idea crossed my mind. Sometimes it come back later and I can get it down, sometimes it's gone forever. Still better than the last few years of writing nothing at all because I cant get in the mood or don't have the things I neee for a decent writing session. Something is at least better than nothing so I'm trying not to be too hard on myself and just write down whatever I can, whenever I can, even if I have to start from the middle and leave blank spaces and "(and then some stuff happened in between, cut to next scene)", just whatever it takes to get the scene or the summary or the vibe out of my head and into the physical realm. Lots of notes full of random thoughts and unconnected scenes but it's progress.
Thinking about writing: "Wow, this scene will be really awesome. The battle sequence, the way the character's development shines through, the conflict of wills. The sheer spectacle! Swords clashing, magic flaring through the aether. This will be a scene that'll live in the readers' hearts forever." Actually writing: *Still have five and a half books until the scene.* "Aight. Guess I should just go for another walk." Alt. "You know, reading [insert book here], I feel like I can do this. I'm a decent writer. I can see how I would do this differently in my own voice just by reading." *Five minutes later* "I'm bad, lol. What's motivation?"
I never seem to struggle with this. I think it's because when i write it comes out like a stream of consciousness that I have repeated over and over again, usually segments of a story with underlying connections that end up compiling into a neat packet. I often write 4000-7000 words a day, because I just think and rehearse words and symbolism in my head pretty much whenever I am not asleep.
I'm not a writer. But sometimes I like to pretend maybe I will become one. I wanted to write one of my childhood story ideas into an actual story, but they had all grown far too unwieldy and vast for what would be my first writing project. So I decided to start with something simple, and that I wasn't attached to: barbarian lady in cold northern wastes fights monsters 'n' wizards 'n' shit. That should be easy. But then I procrastinated in writing it, and before long the idea had grown into a story about a woman who leaves her remote village on the outskirts of an empire, and travels towards its cosmopolitan center becoming, in the process, enchanted by its art, architecture, philosophies, peoples, religions, and scholarly works. She begins to assimilate into the culture, and strives to live a life of virtue according to the moral teachings of popular philosophers and religious leaders within the empire, even as she aspires to become a famed warrior-scholar. Yet in order to lead such a life, she must struggle against her upbringing, leaving more and more of her old self behind. She also struggles with her perception-as an 'educated barbarian' she is seen as mostly a curiosity or amusement, and it becomes increasingly clear she will never truly be able to earn a place among the people of the empire. It would be a heavily introspective story that would explore ideas of nature vs. nurture, how we find our place in the world, and the dissonance between the lives we aspire to and envision for ourselves, vs. the lives we actually lead. I was going to title this story 'The Sword Sent Them' which would actually be a triple entendre because there's a moment earlier on in the story whe- The point is, I need a new idea again.
lmao i always have problems like these. i come up with a very simple idea and i tell myself that it’s going to be a short story, but the moment i try to piece the scenes together, i come up with additional background for the characters, then i add some more scenes in between to accommodate the additions i made to the characters, and then it turns out that i’m actually going in a completely different direction than i originally planned. and then i realize that i have yet another idea worth hundreds of pages. i totally feel you, and i think writing short yet cohesive stories where everything makes sense is actually really, really hard. but i guess it can be a great writing exercise.
You’re using the wrong approach to writing. You shouldn’t put to paper an idea that you aren’t attached to, because then you won’t care about it enough to finish it/make it good. Start by making an outline of your idea, maybe a voice memo, then build from there. It won’t be easy, but the finished project will be very fulfilling.
Hm, not in my experience and opinion to be honest. Even the ideal outline is probably at most like 15% of the actual work - and that's likely an overestimation. Thinking about how to do something and actually doing it are so far apart from each other, it's hard to even call the former proper "work" yet. You know what they say: No plan survives first contact with the enemy. In my experience, that goes for writing and outlines too. And that's assuming the outliner ever even actually _starts_ and finishes writing and isn't just endlessly thinking and "planning" forever. I've certainly been guilty of that.
I feel called out. My skillset goes Worldbuilding > Character Building > Outlining > Prose & Dialogue. Realistically I know the only way I will improve is through practice but as you progress through that list they become increasingly harder to just do in your head and require actual time sitting down and just doing them. I have a bunch of worlds and stories I have developed heavily in my head but only like 2 or 3 I've gotten a chapter written for and those chapters are short and bad.
I go: Frustration > Character that literally beats the shit out of the frustrations > Character backstory and personality > Worldbiulding > New frustration
Personally I hate writing (prose) for the first 30 minutes to an hour or more. But eventually you get to that flow state and it becomes a lot more fun. The key is to tell your internal editor, along with their gang of doubts, to duck off. That being said writing a novel is hard AF and I don't really know what I'm talking about.
As an artist who makes characters and loves going on walks... I HAVE NEVER FELT SO CALLED OUT. When i go on walks, the story sounds so complex, and when i sit down, i can't write a single thing
"And an entirely original biosphere based on the Carboniferous period" I almost SCREAMED holy shit get out of my head 😭 So many books on the Ordovician in my amazon cart right now goddammit
Tbh I’ve had a book written in my head for 6 years. It’s only when I’ve put it on paper that I realized how many things it is missing. So now I continue procrastinating
The giant internal plotting monologue always either ends with that iconic blank Word doc, or “after a whole evening of jubilant hyperfixation, I now hate this idea.” 😅 Both are crushing, and both can only be solved by- write it anyway!
As a story writer, I know all of this was made in one sitting and was immediately forgotten. It all just sounds way better locked up in my head and impossible to write it all down on paper once you've conceived of it.
i was pretty stuck in that infinite idea cycle but now i think im actually ready to get started because i have a solid idea of an intro that im going to stick with
As an AO3 author, this hits way harder than it should. I'll have a grand idea for a fic, maybe even a longfic spanning tens of thousands of words. Crossovers with obscure media, crossovers that literally do not exist yet but I hold the power to will them so. Ideas send shivers across my skin. Worlds built from existing media that just need the imaginative push of the common man. Then I run out of steam after one chapter and procrastinate on it for months. Story of my life.
Being certainly fair, our writer minds are capable of creating some of the highest concepts, the complicated parts is attaching muscle and connecting tissue to those concepts by adding point a-b-c with characters arcs, and reasons for everything to kickstart with actions and dialogue that we REALLY like
I hate how real it is. I have hundreds of ideas for worlds, characters and stories, but I can't finish a single short story. I can't even share them because I know I will never write them then. One of them is a trilogy of books where every book is a different route of the story of the protagonist and reveals different parts of the world and characters. A character that is a friend in first book would be the villain in the next. In the last book it would be revealed that the changes come from a character that is able to see other timelines, but doesn't know the future of the one he lives in. If someone wants to use this can go ahead
wait a second. the character of the third book is on a superior narrative level: it knows almost anything about most of the characters and stories, but is limited by himself and himself only, he is one of us
When it plays out in your head completely fine as you lie in bed at 2am but once you actually get it onto paper the dialogue is like Attack of the Clones fell down the stairs
Im sorry did you implant a recorder into my brain?! Everything from the extreme symbolization and than staring at the blank doc with a smile, you just depicted my entire writing prosses in less than four minutes.
As a begginer animator who has a series going on and wanting to make another one I can relate I have the greatest ideas but when I actually start animating, just nothing, no inspiration and motivation
As a video artist - I really enjoyed the work that went into those dramatic nature shots. As a writer - I relate to this so much! I think that imagining and getting excited about your own ideas is an important part of creating a story, but not more important then actually sitting down and writing the booi
This was me the other day, I kept daydreaming of scenes between my two characters and theyr dynamic and their emotional moments. Started a google doc about it and got demotivated real fast... the reason? Writing straightforwardly like this is not my forté. I need to envision the little scenes in a haphazardly manner, just like I do it in my head. If I try to condense it into a single doc, it stops being so fun, and even if there are multiple docs, it just gets messy. Solution: Outlining the novel through a mind map app, that allows you to make notes and connect them to eachother, where you can clearly see the different scenes and how they connect, plus you can always change them. It's really flexible. Bonus points if you can insert images, so that there's a visual aspect to your outline- thats very fun to me as well. The app I use currently that has these features is obsidian md (canva feature), the only con is that you can't really acces it from different platforms.
@@ambarcastaneda4763 Obsidian md, you can use it for desktop and android but the notes only sync if you pay for the feature. Otherwise the notes stay stored in your machine's storage
Happens with music too. I listen to music at work and get all these ideas for drum arrangements and melodies and textures and sound effects and then when I get home and open Live I write one bit out and say, “this sounds bad, I’ll come back to it”
Once wrote a whole ACTUALLY book in my head like with Dialog and sceenery and everything but faced with a sheet of paper i literally blanked and couldn't recall what it was about it was actually kinda scary
1. while most seem to be here to procrastinate on writing, I feel very upbeat about having just finished a multiple thousand word outline at 3am for a story I came up with just yesterday. for once it has a beggining, middle and end. tomorrow I begin fleshing it out. 2. the ideas in this video seem really cool. I might just steal them, if you don't mind. Don't want to get burned out on one project so having a book B to work intermittently on might be a good idea. carboniferous era scorpian god hybrids here we go!
Tis video was epic. Including the piano music and fast speed dialogue which was mesmerizing and awe wondering to listen to. This could even be made into a rap!
I once knew a person who was like this unironically half of the time. Planning to write a book, changing the world. He was bipolar. I didn’t know him well, but when I once met him during his manic phase, it was legit scary. My parents were there with me at the time, and they felt compelled to stop him from what he was trying to do more than once because he was certainly going to regret it once the phase was over. I never met him in his depressive phases. If they were anywhere near as severe, I wager he spent them huddled in his room, staying away from anything sharp. It’s horrifying what our own mind can do to us.
YOOO BIBLARIDION MENTIONED! But this video is so entirely true, I am looking at my setting I have been brewing for 5 years now. Have I written down anything about it? Lol no.
As someone in the process of writing an epic novel during my free time, I feel personally attacked by this video. (It's mostly just for fun, though, and I have made a lot of actual progress!)
This is so relatable. There have been many stories I have thought of writing and had so many ideas for with a clear vision but when I finally am about to type the story I just lose all motivation.
When you're not trying to write a book: * Creates a long-form poem in prose format by reinventing the Old Testment in contemprary Australia where the character's discuss the legendary status of Napolean's dismemebered genitals and other rambling literary and historical references that commentators will use like a thematic rorschach test for generations to come like he's James Joyce * When you're trying to write a book: * Dial up noises in brain *
Relatable. When I'm half asleep in bed I swear the prose in my head becomes God-like but when I go to write a scene the next day it seems like ass in comparison
He touched grass, stone, river, stone in a river, flower, and water. *All in the same day.*
He's a writer not a Redditor
I wanted to try the Going Outside™ speedrun challenge.
Idea for a sketch you picking up a rough draft from 9 years ago about a life changing trip to venus but you realize your ideas where mutilated ln contect with the paper because what you tried to convay and what was dispenced was two totally different things.
@@MrTao-iy2nfThat's a pretty interesting and original idea.
I-In my opinion, OF COURSE. I am NOT a professional.
I am only pro-imagination, I guess.
Touching grass was the most pivotal😂
I find it ironic, that I came here to procrastinate writing.
Real.
Same
Came here to procrastinate editing
I am here to procastinate formatting
So did I. How weird.
Step #1: Write something.
Step #2: Edit it until it's worth reading.
Do not skip step #1.
I skipped step 1
@@No.1ByakuyaFanhow is that even possible?
@@shadowgacha9055 It is enough that the entire ent of your book/ comic/game has been a hedcanon for 3 years =3
@@chlorophyll1415 4 for me.
Great advice, I should use it
I love how these Blank vs. Blank videos start off with just the most raw dialogue for three and a half minutes straight
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fr, these just have the most concepts in reality that writing could just not contain and i both love and hate it becaude of that exact reason. 😭
@@marcoz6281I used to have that pfp
write the plot? excuse me? how about I construct extremely spicific vibes in my head instead of actually even giving the main character a name.
That's called worldbuilding, I also suffer from this condition
No joke, this literally my thoughts sometimes. They just replay from time to time, adding bits and details here without actually picking the pen up. 😂😆😂
@@davidlz830not alone, shaka brah
What if instead of a compelling narrative I just think about extremely specific cool scenarios with a lore that only exists inside my head
@@Shingekiniana touche
The blinking cursor is the reason why the character can't write it all down.
It distracts, it diverts and shows us the passage of our short, fleeting lives with its every blink.
or you just realize you litteraly have no words for your masterpiece
jokes aside i disable blinking cursor everywhere i can and make it same colour as the text.
this is why i write on papyrus
The blinking cursor and I have had many staring contests...it wins every time
@@dadapotok Can I learn this paper for Google docs?
Staring at the screen after writing "The" gotta be my favourite movement 👌
"We"
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"It"
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"The"
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"We"
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"Who"
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"To truly understand the human condition, one must"
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@@FlahTheToaster once upon a time, reality became a
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@@marcoz6281 "There was a"
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PREPARE TO BE WRITTEN! IM DOING IT! IM DOING IT! YEAH! YEAH YEAH! AND SOME OF THESE, AND SOME OF THESE... ALMOST THERE, AAAAND...
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On the first and final day of the world, the first sentient being and the last sentient being whispered together in the icy void.
This skit should win a nobel prize, not for literature, but for peace.
...a fate worse than obscurity.
The thoughts about what you'll write: Entertainment
The actual thing you write: Generic
Well, that's when we think generic and look at generic stuff.
Look out for the unsual approaches, and try to think unusually, and the generic stuff is no more
@cobalius not as easy as you say
Unusual often means it doesn't work
So to make something not generic one needs to try countless different approaches to final find the Unusual thing that finally works
(Which make it understandable why a lot of people use generic plots/mechanics with maybe a twist or two)
Brandon Sanderson: "You guys have time for thinking?"
"Just write a book while planning out your next one and creating ideas for 3 next ones after that smh"
I am truly convinced that man does not have the same amount of hours in a day that the rest of us have
@@alessa.He only writes 8 hours a day four days a week. That just happens to be an exceptional amount of hours a week for a professional writer
@@tiprixcan’t do the first part, but I already have the plan for the next one!
@@TheRenegade...Or he might just have ghostwriters to assist him
To be fair, Carboniferous period animals should be used more
Carboniferous fauna is so awesome; only thing is you need ridiculously high levels of oxygen in the atmosphere to keep them alive.
The fires were like rockets too 🎉😂
@@nuance9000 imagine a neolithic civilization first inventing fire in the hyper o2 environment burning down forests and fields in their attempts, it would be difficult to explain how it would make it past the step of learning to safely use fire but i think its possible and it would shape the society in such a meaningful way probably
Perhaps fire would be restricted to the jurisdiction of a class of fire priests. Perhaps it would be associated with or considered a deity or primeval force. Perhaps they have legends of a distant time when fire consumed the whole earth. That in turn reminds me of mesoamerican mythology, so you could add in a cyclical cosmos or a belief in such. The Aztecs performed blood sacrifices to feed the sun. What would these people do, I wonder?@@dutchthenightmonkey3457
I feel the same about the Permian Period. Great Dying is overshadowed by a space rock and the T. Rex.
My thoughts usually only goes as far as 0:05
The hardest part isn't usually even coming up with Ideas, it's remembering them all and then somehow piecing them all together in a way that makes sense. Also as soon as I start writing my grammar goes out the window
Maybe…you could write with out caring about the grammar. And then you could refine it during an editing stage? (Or after you finish a chapter)
Jesus, that's unsettingly relatable
True, I just use Grammarly after I finish a chapter or a sentence.
so many computer files
so many phone notes
so many conversations with friends
so much i just never bothered to write down and forgot
I use onenote and just have a folder called "ideas", ready to be used whenever i'm ready
My story is so phenomenal that I literally have no words to describe it.
I love the depth in this comment.
You know a joke is good when you know exactly how it's going to end but you laugh all the way through anyway
I love reinventing the modern equivalent of the Odyssey through patchwork shower thoughts only to lose them all the moment the towel hits me.
I fixed this with a typewriter, but the paper got wet, so I got it a tiny umbrella, but then I'm writing and my hands are too dry and I feel like a weirdo, like who has dry hands in the shower
@@dadapotokWear gloves filled with water
Worst part is that 99% percent of my writing is:
"I dont like this prologue...
But I dont dislike it enough to change it".
Your writing? Bro its a pain for everybody lol 😂
No need for a novel, you've written a masterpiece here. I'll call up the Nobel committee.
Brandon Sanderson wrote 5 books in the span of this video.
Actual trick: If you are this guy, and you can _talk about_ your story ideas way more easily than you can write them down - buy a voice memo recorder, or a note recorder, or whatever they're called, and take it with you on these walks. If you can't afford one, and you have a smart phone, record voice notes on that. Looks goofy as hell, but if it lets you capture these ideas when you have them, so that you can actually access them later when you're in a better position to write - business people do it, musicians do it, no reason a writer can't do it too.
Actually a great idea. Reminds me of a certain character, Katin, from the book Nova by Samuel Delaney; he's a "writer" who's constantly monologuing into a recording device about all the themes he wants his novel to explore, but he's never actually written a single word. Still, I can only imagine that in real life having access to those recordings and re-listening to them would be a great source of inspiration.
@@genericallyentertaining It's very useful; not just for inspiration, but also to have notes which are recorded and accessed by a different linguistic faculty to writing. I regularly reach a point where I can't _write_ anything more in a day, but I've still got ideas floating around which I know are going to disappear if I sleep on them. At that point, the memo recorder comes out and the notes just get talked into it.
The only drawback is that you have to listen to your own voice, recorded, and that gives everyone a bit of the photo vs. mirror effect, until you get used to the idea of percieving the same thing in two different ways.
@@genericallyentertaining (Also - thank you for the book recommend; I don't think I've ever read Delany, but looking through his catalogue now, there seems to be some interesting stuff!
Edit: Ah. Black, gay, and most scandalous of all, _American_ - no wonder I never found any of his books on library shelves, growing up. Thank you _so much_ - I'm doing a bit of a trawl through classic sci-fi at the moment for queer stuff, and just doing a web-search does not go into details like 'there's a character who spends the entire novel composing a novel of his own' - that sounds great, and it's now at the top of my list. 👍)
If I could physically bring myself to do this, it would definitely save me a lot of grief, especially since a lot of voice recorders also do voice to text now. I'm working on my anxiety around being perceived rn so maybe someday soon 😅
I think that one major factor that explains the distance between thinking about writing and writing for real is the simple fact that when you are thinking about writing you are doing the fun part of the job, you are putting the plan into place, you are creating the story and it's foundations.
When you are engaging in the actual process of writing you're doing construction work, you know what you are doing so you don't end up being surprised by the things that work. What you do end up being surprised by tends to be annoying busywork like rewrites and thinking about the wider narrative has to accommodate them.
TLDR actually writing is the boring and time consuming part of a job that requires 80% of the work and gives 20% of the results.
I usually record me speaking my ideas out loud so that my ideas are not lost while writing and I can just do the construction work without thinking, just churn out words to describe what I was saying in the recording. Kinda helps with the boring part when i am writing chapter 1 while talking out loud about chapter 6 it lets me imagine and write. I don’t know if it’s effective or not tho, leaving this here if anyone wants to try this and see if it works for them.
@@knaditya8228 thanks!
Thanks, I was wondering that!
overtime you start to enjoy the process
I think we think this way about “writing being the boring bit” because so often we have to strangle and contort our big ideas into functional stories. See the colours and vibes pressed out of them. If you start in a FUNCTIONAL way, writing almost as a mechanical, automatic process of cause and effect and help yourself out with a useful narrative framework, like an act structure or central theme characters all exist to give perspectives on-anything to make a Northstar out of for when you’re stuck and need a next step-it can really flow and become play and joyful, especially if you have a writing partner to make sure your ideas are grounded and practical
What sucks about coming out the gate with grand ambitions is you basically jump right to the editing part of your story. You’re editing it for 80 percent of the time. Of course that’s boring.
My plot: godly wars, polygamy, death, magic, suicide cults, death, interperatation of imagination as reality, true meaning of evil, more death
The google doc: So they died
My plot: A brave woman who's served her realm for many years gets kidnapped by an evil sorcerer who wants to turn her to the dark side. This classic setup allows for a deep subversion, in which we'll explore the nature of good and evil, the validity of monarchy and hierarchy in general, the secrets of the universe, the problem of power, and more.
My writing: being kidnapped sure sucks :(
Polygamy 🥱
Polyamory 🤩
@@celisewillis oh yeah I get confused with the terms sorry about that
@@celisewillis it’s a blend of both. I have 12 in the polyamory/polygamy
4 of them are only with the universal one (the m.c)
3 of them are together as well as the m.c
I have 2 pairs of gods with their mortal forms which somehow became their own entities (the god and their entity aren’t with each other but they both are with the other pair) and then the m.c
@@milicadiy never have truer words been spoken, especially when you want to write a holy war
Starting is the hardest part. Get words on the page and let them flow. You can fix things later. Also, careful with the Tolstoy mention. You'll provoke an essay on the world's greatest storytellers.
Who are they?
@@jacknicholson2071Dostoevsky, Miura, Tolstoy, and Shakespeare.
@@TheTrueRandomGamerwho’s miura? The berserk guy?
@@crix_h3eadshotgg992 Yeah.
I did that once. I wrote 5,000 words without thinking about any plotline whatsoever, and what I got from that was 5,000 words that don't connect in any plotline whatsoever. Just a hole bunch of people doing stuff.
This is too real hahahah! Half the time I don't even get to the part where I open up Word.
I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE BEEN CALLED OUT LIKE THIS 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Legend has it that James Joyce actually wrote that book being planned out here, only to have Ezra Pound reject all but volume VI and edit it so heavily (excising the magic, nearly all the characters and doing much more tempering) that the original was rendered beyond recognition.
We now know that book as Ulysses.
Imagine brainstorming a book while on an idyllic walk- everybody knows REAL authors think about books in bed at 3am.
(For clarity, joke)
Both. Both is good
I day-dream about my awesome cyberpunk dark fantasy animated show inspired by Dark Souls, Blade Runner and Ghost In The Shell while working, and its too #ucking awesome to put in comments, sorry 😎 (but I can tell some if you wanna tough 🥺)
For me it's the bathroom and bed before sleeping
@@krsmanjovanovic8607That sounds very interesting. Let's hear it.
Honestly like 10% of my daily thoughts pertain to my dream project. But that’s where the thoughts never stop😂
i'll be honest i got very distracted by those consonants for a minute
biblaridion jumpscare
Croissant?
I’m starting to think generic entertainment just really wants a nobel prize
Who doesn't?
This is the most relatable video I've ever seen lol. At least I've gotten to the point where I write garbage and tear my beautiful vision apart word by word instead of writing nothing?
This is the second time you’ve so accurately slandered me sir, lmao
When I get ideas like this, I jot them down in a note app on my phone. A quick scratchpad scribble of scenes, scraps of dialogue, anything and everything. Sitting with laptop comes later, where I piece them together and refine them into something actually usable. Far better than staring at a blank editor trying to find that perfect opening which you totally won't redraft a dozen times before you're done.
Yeah, this is the way! That little blue notebook I'm carrying in the video is what I use for jotting down ideas or just random things that inspire me, and flipping through it is a great way to give myself a little creative burst when I need it.
I will be speaking with my attorney about this slander.
That actually sounds like a very interesting read.
they always do
I think of that one SpongeBob episode where he writes for hours but all he can come up with is… The, but the T is super duper fancy and the rest are just squiggles
I keep getting an insanely good idea for a story or a character but those ideas either fade away or I just straight up decide “nah im not in the mood to write”
Same. Recently I've been using my phone notepad to just jot down little bits of ideas sometimes, which does sometimes turn into me actually getting a bit of real story down, but most of the time I still can't even make myself stop what I'm doing to write a couple bullet points if whatever idea crossed my mind.
Sometimes it come back later and I can get it down, sometimes it's gone forever. Still better than the last few years of writing nothing at all because I cant get in the mood or don't have the things I neee for a decent writing session.
Something is at least better than nothing so I'm trying not to be too hard on myself and just write down whatever I can, whenever I can, even if I have to start from the middle and leave blank spaces and "(and then some stuff happened in between, cut to next scene)", just whatever it takes to get the scene or the summary or the vibe out of my head and into the physical realm.
Lots of notes full of random thoughts and unconnected scenes but it's progress.
@@pvp6077can please tell me about would like to here it.
hitting way too close to home with this one man
Thinking about writing: "Wow, this scene will be really awesome. The battle sequence, the way the character's development shines through, the conflict of wills. The sheer spectacle! Swords clashing, magic flaring through the aether. This will be a scene that'll live in the readers' hearts forever."
Actually writing: *Still have five and a half books until the scene.* "Aight. Guess I should just go for another walk."
Alt.
"You know, reading [insert book here], I feel like I can do this. I'm a decent writer. I can see how I would do this differently in my own voice just by reading."
*Five minutes later*
"I'm bad, lol. What's motivation?"
I never seem to struggle with this. I think it's because when i write it comes out like a stream of consciousness that I have repeated over and over again, usually segments of a story with underlying connections that end up compiling into a neat packet. I often write 4000-7000 words a day, because I just think and rehearse words and symbolism in my head pretty much whenever I am not asleep.
I'm not a writer.
But sometimes I like to pretend maybe I will become one. I wanted to write one of my childhood story ideas into an actual story, but they had all grown far too unwieldy and vast for what would be my first writing project. So I decided to start with something simple, and that I wasn't attached to: barbarian lady in cold northern wastes fights monsters 'n' wizards 'n' shit. That should be easy.
But then I procrastinated in writing it, and before long the idea had grown into a story about a woman who leaves her remote village on the outskirts of an empire, and travels towards its cosmopolitan center becoming, in the process, enchanted by its art, architecture, philosophies, peoples, religions, and scholarly works. She begins to assimilate into the culture, and strives to live a life of virtue according to the moral teachings of popular philosophers and religious leaders within the empire, even as she aspires to become a famed warrior-scholar. Yet in order to lead such a life, she must struggle against her upbringing, leaving more and more of her old self behind. She also struggles with her perception-as an 'educated barbarian' she is seen as mostly a curiosity or amusement, and it becomes increasingly clear she will never truly be able to earn a place among the people of the empire. It would be a heavily introspective story that would explore ideas of nature vs. nurture, how we find our place in the world, and the dissonance between the lives we aspire to and envision for ourselves, vs. the lives we actually lead. I was going to title this story 'The Sword Sent Them' which would actually be a triple entendre because there's a moment earlier on in the story whe-
The point is, I need a new idea again.
For what it's worth, I really enjoyed reading this. Thank you for sharing.
@@ambarcastaneda4763 Thanks for saying so! You've brightened up my morning.
lmao i always have problems like these. i come up with a very simple idea and i tell myself that it’s going to be a short story, but the moment i try to piece the scenes together, i come up with additional background for the characters, then i add some more scenes in between to accommodate the additions i made to the characters, and then it turns out that i’m actually going in a completely different direction than i originally planned. and then i realize that i have yet another idea worth hundreds of pages. i totally feel you, and i think writing short yet cohesive stories where everything makes sense is actually really, really hard. but i guess it can be a great writing exercise.
You’re using the wrong approach to writing. You shouldn’t put to paper an idea that you aren’t attached to, because then you won’t care about it enough to finish it/make it good. Start by making an outline of your idea, maybe a voice memo, then build from there. It won’t be easy, but the finished project will be very fulfilling.
I relate a lot
You've got the outline and plot, that's half the work.
Hm, not in my experience and opinion to be honest. Even the ideal outline is probably at most like 15% of the actual work - and that's likely an overestimation.
Thinking about how to do something and actually doing it are so far apart from each other, it's hard to even call the former proper "work" yet. You know what they say: No plan survives first contact with the enemy. In my experience, that goes for writing and outlines too. And that's assuming the outliner ever even actually _starts_ and finishes writing and isn't just endlessly thinking and "planning" forever. I've certainly been guilty of that.
I feel called out.
My skillset goes Worldbuilding > Character Building > Outlining > Prose & Dialogue.
Realistically I know the only way I will improve is through practice but as you progress through that list they become increasingly harder to just do in your head and require actual time sitting down and just doing them. I have a bunch of worlds and stories I have developed heavily in my head but only like 2 or 3 I've gotten a chapter written for and those chapters are short and bad.
worldbuilding is the most fun part for sure
I go: Frustration > Character that literally beats the shit out of the frustrations > Character backstory and personality > Worldbiulding > New frustration
@@marcoz6281 I wasn't describing a workflow per day, just how good I am at each task. That said it does roughly approximate my workflow.
@@ctom42 sorry
Personally I hate writing (prose) for the first 30 minutes to an hour or more. But eventually you get to that flow state and it becomes a lot more fun. The key is to tell your internal editor, along with their gang of doubts, to duck off.
That being said writing a novel is hard AF and I don't really know what I'm talking about.
This is so relatable, I honestly think I have a great story and I was able to do the first few pages but then my mine went blank.
I knew what I signed up for when I clicked but being personally called out like this still hurts!
As an artist who makes characters and loves going on walks... I HAVE NEVER FELT SO CALLED OUT. When i go on walks, the story sounds so complex, and when i sit down, i can't write a single thing
"And an entirely original biosphere based on the Carboniferous period" I almost SCREAMED holy shit get out of my head 😭 So many books on the Ordovician in my amazon cart right now goddammit
Tbh I’ve had a book written in my head for 6 years. It’s only when I’ve put it on paper that I realized how many things it is missing. So now I continue procrastinating
The giant internal plotting monologue always either ends with that iconic blank Word doc, or “after a whole evening of jubilant hyperfixation, I now hate this idea.” 😅 Both are crushing, and both can only be solved by- write it anyway!
God fucking damnit was literally procrastinating coming up with a story idea for a game and this popped up in my reccomended 😭😭😭
No fr you're super good at writing monologues
Me at 3 am: peoples grandchildren will read about me in school
Me at 3 pm: she walked as she crossed the road walkingly
These flashes of inspiration are always more like an experience we want to have consuming media. It's just a feeling. Nothing concrete
Flashes of inspo feel like watching a whole movie lowkey
How dare you destroy everything I held dear in my writing with that single "iroal" scene :(
Writing itself is actually fun, easy even. Now, the point between "i should write" but BEFORE actually writing, THAT is torment.
As a story writer, I know all of this was made in one sitting and was immediately forgotten. It all just sounds way better locked up in my head and impossible to write it all down on paper once you've conceived of it.
i was pretty stuck in that infinite idea cycle but now i think im actually ready to get started because i have a solid idea of an intro that im going to stick with
also whats the name of that writing software
I hope you're writing right now
Type my dude. you got this, just one word. a journey of a thousand steps begins with the first
You write?
As an AO3 author, this hits way harder than it should.
I'll have a grand idea for a fic, maybe even a longfic spanning tens of thousands of words. Crossovers with obscure media, crossovers that literally do not exist yet but I hold the power to will them so. Ideas send shivers across my skin. Worlds built from existing media that just need the imaginative push of the common man.
Then I run out of steam after one chapter and procrastinate on it for months. Story of my life.
Being certainly fair, our writer minds are capable of creating some of the highest concepts, the complicated parts is attaching muscle and connecting tissue to those concepts by adding point a-b-c with characters arcs, and reasons for everything to kickstart with actions and dialogue that we REALLY like
I hate how real it is. I have hundreds of ideas for worlds, characters and stories, but I can't finish a single short story. I can't even share them because I know I will never write them then. One of them is a trilogy of books where every book is a different route of the story of the protagonist and reveals different parts of the world and characters. A character that is a friend in first book would be the villain in the next. In the last book it would be revealed that the changes come from a character that is able to see other timelines, but doesn't know the future of the one he lives in. If someone wants to use this can go ahead
wait a second. the character of the third book is on a superior narrative level: it knows almost anything about most of the characters and stories, but is limited by himself and himself only, he is one of us
I'm the opposite. I've wanted to be a writer since about 3rd grade. But I can't think of an idea to save my life!
it always happens when i’m walking around in circles at 10 AM and randomly think of the most powerful, most deep and complex story of all time
When it plays out in your head completely fine as you lie in bed at 2am but once you actually get it onto paper the dialogue is like Attack of the Clones fell down the stairs
The hard part isn’t coming up with idea, it’s getting them to fit together
Im sorry did you implant a recorder into my brain?! Everything from the extreme symbolization and than staring at the blank doc with a smile, you just depicted my entire writing prosses in less than four minutes.
Yeah it do be like this. Especially as the writer friend who has to go "ok but how many words you written yet"
As a begginer animator who has a series going on and wanting to make another one I can relate I have the greatest ideas but when I actually start animating, just nothing, no inspiration and motivation
As a video artist - I really enjoyed the work that went into those dramatic nature shots.
As a writer - I relate to this so much! I think that imagining and getting excited about your own ideas is an important part of creating a story, but not more important then actually sitting down and writing the booi
This was me the other day, I kept daydreaming of scenes between my two characters and theyr dynamic and their emotional moments. Started a google doc about it and got demotivated real fast... the reason? Writing straightforwardly like this is not my forté. I need to envision the little scenes in a haphazardly manner, just like I do it in my head. If I try to condense it into a single doc, it stops being so fun, and even if there are multiple docs, it just gets messy.
Solution: Outlining the novel through a mind map app, that allows you to make notes and connect them to eachother, where you can clearly see the different scenes and how they connect, plus you can always change them. It's really flexible. Bonus points if you can insert images, so that there's a visual aspect to your outline- thats very fun to me as well.
The app I use currently that has these features is obsidian md (canva feature), the only con is that you can't really acces it from different platforms.
This is a good idea! What app do you use?
@@ambarcastaneda4763 Obsidian md, you can use it for desktop and android but the notes only sync if you pay for the feature. Otherwise the notes stay stored in your machine's storage
Happens with music too. I listen to music at work and get all these ideas for drum arrangements and melodies and textures and sound effects and then when I get home and open Live I write one bit out and say, “this sounds bad, I’ll come back to it”
This felt painfully relatable
Once wrote a whole ACTUALLY book in my head like with Dialog and sceenery and everything but faced with a sheet of paper i literally blanked and couldn't recall what it was about it was actually kinda scary
A masterpiece! I've been t h i n k i n g a lot about writing recently, so this is highly relatable.
Honestly I really liked the plot ideas and just ideas in general for this lol
1. while most seem to be here to procrastinate on writing, I feel very upbeat about having just finished a multiple thousand word outline at 3am for a story I came up with just yesterday. for once it has a beggining, middle and end. tomorrow I begin fleshing it out.
2. the ideas in this video seem really cool. I might just steal them, if you don't mind. Don't want to get burned out on one project so having a book B to work intermittently on might be a good idea. carboniferous era scorpian god hybrids here we go!
Tis video was epic. Including the piano music and fast speed dialogue which was mesmerizing and awe wondering to listen to.
This could even be made into a rap!
3:03 for actually writing.
I once knew a person who was like this unironically half of the time. Planning to write a book, changing the world. He was bipolar. I didn’t know him well, but when I once met him during his manic phase, it was legit scary. My parents were there with me at the time, and they felt compelled to stop him from what he was trying to do more than once because he was certainly going to regret it once the phase was over.
I never met him in his depressive phases. If they were anywhere near as severe, I wager he spent them huddled in his room, staying away from anything sharp. It’s horrifying what our own mind can do to us.
Dawg this is a UA-cam comments section
Poor guy... Now he's all alone spending most of his time thinking what he did wrong when to him it was just a worldchanging idea
YOOO BIBLARIDION MENTIONED!
But this video is so entirely true, I am looking at my setting I have been brewing for 5 years now. Have I written down anything about it? Lol no.
I actually managed to start the novel I have always wanted to write and it is amazing
As someone in the process of writing an epic novel during my free time, I feel personally attacked by this video. (It's mostly just for fun, though, and I have made a lot of actual progress!)
I will BE as old as the carboniferous period once I finally figure out a way to start my story that I like
Worldbuilding vs Storytelling be like:
Not gonna lie that brainstormed idea sounds like it would be a fantastic series of books
WHY IS IT LIKE THIS, I HAVE EVERYTHING PLANNED, BUT WHEN I TRY TO PASS IT IN THE DAMN PAGE, IT JUST DISAPPEARS
Do you actually have the plan written down somewhere?
@@encouraginglyauthentic43 I do *;-;*
@@a.g.2562 Have you ever considered scaling down and trying flash fiction?
This is so relatable. There have been many stories I have thought of writing and had so many ideas for with a clear vision but when I finally am about to type the story I just lose all motivation.
As an author this is so true.
Yeah, it be like that sometimes. But when that motivation hits, it hits!
IROAL 😂😂
I feel so called out
You did it! You broke writing down to its bare essentials!
It was a dark and stormy night.
When you're not trying to write a book: * Creates a long-form poem in prose format by reinventing the Old Testment in contemprary Australia where the character's discuss the legendary status of Napolean's dismemebered genitals and other rambling literary and historical references that commentators will use like a thematic rorschach test for generations to come like he's James Joyce *
When you're trying to write a book: * Dial up noises in brain *
Relatable. When I'm half asleep in bed I swear the prose in my head becomes God-like but when I go to write a scene the next day it seems like ass in comparison
This is a very accurate portrayal of my creative process
Yeah, us writers tend to get quite consumed by our ambitions sometimes... Great video as always ❤
Oh my god, the sketchpad where you're workshopping a single word... like an arrow through my heart
This was quite the tribute to the best book in the world.
I lost it at "it will win the Nobel prize, not for literature, but for peace"
the Nobel prize reference 😂
Lol, I learned this piano piece back in the day
That description is how I imagine Finnegans Wake
What did I just watch 😭😭. A mirror of my life
this is actually beautiful